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Riding the Sandworms: Denis Villeneuve’s DUNE Series

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We watched DUNE: PART TWO, so we have to talk about it! Also, we've decided to take an unedited approach to the show. If you like it, let us know. If you hate it, let us know! What we're geeking this week PlayStation Portal Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core Delicious in Dungeon (Netflix) AI-Generated Show Summary The episode begins with host Dave Clements greeting the audience and joking about a beeping noise that startled him. His co-host, David Hunt, chimes in, albeit a bit awkwardly, realizing the limitations of podcasting—namely, that the audience can't respond to his queries. Dave Clements is going through the keto diet again and is struggling with cravings, particularly when seeing foods he can't have because of his diet. David Hunt sympathizes, noting how difficult it is to diet with children at home who aren’t following the same eating plan. The conversation shifts to what the hosts have been up to. David Hunt shares his experience playing Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core and talks about his new PlayStation Portal, which allows him to play when the TV is occupied by his child. Dave has returned to rotating streaming services, settling on Netflix with ads to save some money. He mentions a new anime he's watching, "Delicious in Dungeon," which combines elements of Dungeons and Dragons and food—a recommendation he makes despite the challenge of starting keto. Their talk turns toward Netflix streaming, with Dave Clements expressing his frustration over rewatching shows when his preference leans toward new content. The two friends joke about their partners rewatching their favorite shows on streaming services. The conversation then leads into the main topic of the episode: a review of Denis Villeneuve's Dune films. Both hosts disclose their lack of exposure to the Dune universe before the recent films. Dave attempted to watch the 1984 version by David Lynch but couldn’t get into it. David Hunt hadn’t seen the earlier film, mini-series, or read the book, and his knowledge was primarily through secondary sources like the Sci-Fi Christian podcast. Approaching Villeneuve’s "Dune Part One," both hosts were excited. David Hunt hadn’t seen it in theaters due to life getting in the way but caught up on the first film right before the second one was released. Dave watched Dune as soon as it came out on HBO Max, but it took a few tries to get through it without falling asleep. Dave discusses the grand visuals and designs of the movie and the use of practical effects. David Hunt expresses that watching the second movie helped him better appreciate the first one, as they should be watched as a single entity. Both hosts find the movie visually stunning and well-acted but admit the storyline was dense and at times hard to follow. Turning the discussion to "Dune Part Two," Dave says he enjoyed Paul's character more this time because of his character arc. However, he struggled with understanding some of Paul's motivations and actions. He appreciated Zendaya’s character and was impressed by a big twist in the film involving Paul’s mother. Dave mentions being impressed by the sandworms, sharing a piece of trivia about the failed attempt to utilize practical effects for a riding scene ultimately generated digitally. He’s intrigued by the larger universe and is open to exploring more of it. Before closing the episode, the hosts invite their audience to send feedback and content suggestions. They address that previous episodes can be found on the podcast website and hint at re-releasing earlier content. The hosts express their love for engaging with their listeners and mention potential future series on other movie franchises. The episode ends with the hosts bidding farewell until the next episode.

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- Welcome to Geek This. My name is Dave Clements. I heard a little beepy noise in my ear and it scared me , so I was like, what's wrong? Uh, hey, welcome to Geek This. My name is Dave Clements and, uh, this is a show where we talk about movies and video games, television, and all the other things that we're geeking out about. With me, as always, is my best bud. My favorite co-host, David Hunt. - Hey, everybody. I, I was gonna say, how are you today? Then I realized no one can respond to me, .

- That's true. That's true. Um, I'm okay today. I can respond. We were talking before we started recording, so you kind of know where I'm at, but I'm okay. I'm alive. I'm, um, we started keto again, so I'm going through that fun little struggle bus of fighting off cravings and hating the fact that there's a bunch of cereal that I can't eat.

And - That stuff, it's always, it's hard to like, do any sort of diet when you have kids in the house who aren't on that diet, because then you still have to have all the stuff that they want to eat, and then you see it and you're like, I want that. And, and you know, in your head, like, I'm an adult, so I can eat what I want, but I really shouldn't. . Yeah. - Yeah. I've, I've had to deal with that.

Um, Iley, like, of all things, Iley had a bowl of Raisin brand, and I've never been so jealous of a Bowl of Raisin brand before. Like, I love Raisin brand. I did when I was a kid too, but now I'm just like, Ugh, not fair, but I'm making it. I'm making it. I'm down, uh, let's just say 10 pounds. I've probably lost more than that in the last two to three weeks, so, you know. That's awesome, man. Not bad. Yeah. Congrats one day. I won't be super fat.

But, uh, what have you been up to in life, in entertainment? - Oh, well, I, um, I've been playing some, uh, final Fantasy Seven Crisis Core. So the sequel to Final Fantasy seven remake recently came out Mm-Hmm. . Well, when I was about ready to start it, I realized, wow, I never played that prequel to Final Fantasy Seven. So I decided to go ahead and play that before I played, uh, the new, the new game. So I'm in the middle of playing that.

Um, I actually just today got in, um, my PlayStation portal, um, - Nice. - Uh, which I bought because I have a 3-year-old who takes my TV over. Uh, so there are many times where I'm like, I really want to play my PlayStation, but my kid's watching, I don't know, some random show on Disney Plus. So now I can, uh, you know, stream my PlayStation to the portal and play it that way. - Nice. Liking it so far. - I just got it today, so I haven't really had a chance to mess with it, but Okay.

Okay. I'm really excited for it. - Nice. Um, yeah, entertainment wise, uh, actually I have been, so we, we got Netflix because I'm always trying to watch stuff that's interesting. So we're rotating through all of the different streaming services conversation we have quite a bit here on the show. Uh, so we're, we're back at Netflix. I'm perfectly fine with ads.

I've realized if it only costs me $7 a month, and I've been watching Delicious in Dungeon, uh, it is an anime, so that combines like d and d and food. So, uh, highly recommended, really fun. The food looks gorgeous. - This sounds like a great combination, except I don't know if I would want to be starting keto while watching a food show. - Yeah. I had to deal with that for just a little bit, and I was like, this, this is just gonna make me stronger.

, you know, I, I, if I can get through all, - All right. Kelly Clarkson, , you - Know, that's the way it is sometimes, but, uh, yeah. It's, it's a blast of a show. - Uh, you can say something you decide to get rid of Max, let me know. - Okay. We, we might, I keep talking about it, and then the girls are like, but I have favorite, my favorite shows. And they're, they're like, Wendy, they like to watch the same show all the time. And I'm like, I watched it.

I watched one season, or I watched the entire series, whatever it is. Uh, I don't need to watch it again. I'm good. I'm, I'm weird like that. - Yeah. I'm the same way. Uh, for the most part. Like, Sabrina Will, she used to, she's gotten a little bit better, but she used to just like, like she would watch The Office all the time. Mm-Hmm. . And I'm like, I love the Office. The office is great. How many times you need to watch it. - Yeah. Yep. That's, that's me as well. I'm like, I like the Office.

It is wonderful, but I can't watch it 30 times. Like I Okay. So True story. 'cause we're talking about Netflix. Netflix is where Wendy always watched Gilmore Girls and we dropped Netflix at one point. I bought her the entire show on DVD. We own it. She hasn't, I think she watched like three or four episodes. - DD Okay. Grandpa. - Well, it was cheaper and Wendy doesn't care, - So I'm just kidding.

- Um, so we have the physical stuff, and I think she watched like three or four episodes, phy, you know, on, on the DVD Mm-Hmm. And then stopped watching it. We get Netflix back. What is the first thing she decides to watch Gilmore Girls from the beginning. I'm like, I can't do it. I'm like, what's all the new stuff that I've missed since Right. The last time I had Netflix like three years ago, or like two years ago, whenever it was - Stranger Things.

- Yeah. I've, I mean, I've watched all, all Four Seasons. Yeah. That are out so far. So, you know. Is it four - Or is it five? - It's four. I thought, I thought season five was the last one. Oh, - It's hard to keep track. It's, it, you might be right. It might might have been four. They all, anyway, - I'm - All caught Blend together. Yeah. . - Uh, but we're not here to talk about Netflix. We're gonna talk about Dune part one and Dune part two.

- Well, well, all we were doing was talking about what we were Dune . - It's true. What you dune. Um, yeah. So I, I don't really know where to start. I guess for me, my question is, have you watched the old 1980 Dune? - I'm not, I, I haven't watched, uh, that I haven't watched many series. I haven't read the book. Uh, okay. My only exposure to Dune is, is the, the new movies. - Okay. Uh, and then, - Um, uh, Sci-Fi Christian had some episodes about it that I listened to.

Mm-Hmm. . But, um, so I got kind of like some secondary influence there, , um, but not actually like reading it or anything. - Yeah. Um, I don't really know Jack crap about Dune. Um, I attempted to watch 1984, uh, David Lynch. Yeah. Uh, I, I started watching that 'cause I was like, I'm gonna be that guy and I've gotta watch it. And I got about 10 minutes into it and I was like, I can't do it. I'm gonna rip my eyeballs out. Um, so yeah, that was, that was rough.

Uh, I applaud anybody that has actually sat through that whole movie. It's has like a good cast, potentially. Mm-Hmm. . But I, I just, I don't know. I just couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. So I'm, I'm glad. Uh, same thing with like, the book I have, I've rented it from the library as an audio book probably two or three times, and I just can't get into it. So Yeah. I, I only have the new ones. Yep. And - I keep meaning to listen to the audiobook.

Um, but the, the last time I tried there was like a huge wait for that from the library. Mm-Hmm. . So it's like, you know what? I'm just gonna move on and just, maybe I'll try again. Um, but heck, now that the second movie's out, there's probably a huge line for it again. - Right. Or, you know, the next book I think, which is Dune Messiah, if I'm not mistaken. I did a little research, but not enough idea. Um, so let's talk a - Little, that is a Dune book. . Yeah, - It is a Dune book.

There's like 30 of 'em, I guess. I don't know. , that's wheel of time maybe that I'm thinking of. Right. Um, so let's talk about Dune part One, which came out in 2021, if you can believe it. Um, having no expectation of the story or anything like that. Like what do you remember? Like, were you excited to see it? Um, like kind of what, what was your level at knowing that this movie was coming out? - Um, so going into Dune one, I was really excited for it.

Um, you know, I, I listened to, uh, sci by Christian and, um, it's a, which a, a podcast that if you listen to us, you might have listened to them to in the past. Um, yep. But, uh, Matt and Ben, Ben especially, was like super excited for it. So they were getting me pumped up for it. 'cause I, I didn't have any exposure to it before hearing them talk about it. Um, well then the movie came into theaters and I was busy.

Life got in the way. I didn't get a chance to see it, and then I kept meaning to watch it, and I kept meaning to watch it. And what do you know before I know it, oh, June two is about ready to come out. So, um, I actually just saw the first Dune like a week ago, you know, right before we went in to watch the, the second one. Um, so it's very fresh in my mind. - Okay. - But yeah, I was super excited for it, and then it, it just kind of fell off my radar. - Yeah. Um, what about you?

For me, I, yeah, I was, I was excited for it. I think more because I had heard so, so many things about David Lynch's version of it, and I'd never read the book. So it was like, okay, a good fresh, modern, cinematic take on it. So I was, uh, excited about that. Now I will say, I don't think I've ever seen any, uh, Denny Vinu movies before. So from a, from a movie making perspective, I didn't really know what to expect.

Mm-Hmm. . But, um, I remember it came out and it also came out on Max at the, on the same day. So I think it was probably the next day I turned it on, started watching it fell asleep. - Did, did you not see Blade Runner of 2049? - No, I have not seen that. - Well, that a side note, maybe the Blade Runner movie should be what we do next. - We could do that for sure. - Or, or soon, maybe not next. Yeah. Anyway, back, back on topic. Sorry, I just, when you said you hadn't seen any of them,

I was like, I think that's the only one I've seen. Yeah. - I'm pretty good at remembering directors and what movies they've done or, you know, some of the movies they've done. But I was like, I, I know the name, but I can't say that I've really watched anything. But yeah, I fell asleep the first time I tried watching Dune, and the second time and the third time, and I gave up on it. I was like, this will be great. I'll watch it again when part two comes out, because I knew that was happening.

And Yeah. Just like you, you know, a couple days before we went to actually go see it together, I, I watched the movie, I watched a couple, like, this is the stuff you should understand or, you know, like, things that I just missed, uh, because I don't know about you, but I felt, well, you also had Sci-fi Christian knowledge in your head here.

Uh, I felt so lost at so much information, um, like which houses we're we're dealing with, um, and which characters were, which, uh, there was just a lot of confusion watching it for the first time. So, luckily YouTube videos helped a little bit. Uh, I watched a recap of it too, just to make sure I was understanding the story points and things like that. But, um, overall I feel like it's a gorgeous movie. It's just a lot. And I'm really glad that they split it up.

- Yeah. Um, I didn't realize that, like, before they premiered the movie, that they hadn't really said that it was a two part movie. So people like showed up at the theaters on Premier Day and like, oh, this is part one , um, part one. Yeah. - It's not a six hour movie, it's a two and a half hour movie.

- Yeah. But yeah, I, knowing now, like seeing part one and then part two, like definitely the right decision, um, for them to break it up into, is it gonna be a trilogy or do we know that's, - That's the thing I'm not entirely sure of. I've seen references to Dune part three, but I don't know if that is, uh, picking up kind of in the next part of the story, which from my understanding is Dune Messiah. Uh, which I, I think it's gonna shift a little bit.

And Florence Pew's character is going to be one of the main characters. That's my understanding. I could be wrong. I'm ready for anybody to tell me I'm wrong. Uh, because yeah, - I mean, it, it definitely seemed, I mean, we're kind of getting into part two now, but, um, sure. It definitely seemed in the movie that she was going to be a big part of going forward, because I saw her in like, promotional material for part two Mm-Hmm. . Um, but then, like, she's barely in the movie .

Um, so I guess, I guess when you have a, a stack cast Mm-Hmm. you can only do so much with each character, but yeah, she's like, I felt like she was barely in it, so it would make sense that she's a bigger part of future storyline. - Yeah. She's, um, so just the, the very little bit of what I watched of David Lynch's movie, uh, she actually opens that movie, like she's the narrator of that movie.

So she definitely has some bigger role to play in the whole, um, you know, story in the whole Dune story. Yeah. But I don't know if it'll just be like a, like a trilogy and then we move on to whatever the next thing is. Uh, but yeah, talking about part one, um, I, I think for me, I was just impressed with the visual effects, the cinematography, you know, the actors that played whichever roles. Um, yeah. So that's really where I think I was the most impressed, a storyline.

I think there's just so many layers of like, things that you need to know that I, it was hard to follow a lot. And it could be because, you know, just, I don't pay attention as well as I should. Um, or it's just dense. I don't think it was bad writing. I think it was good writing, good acting, just a lot to sift through, no pun intended with sand. - Yeah. There was, uh, there was a lot going on.

Um, but I, after seeing it, like finishing it, I thought they did a great job of putting it all together and, um, you know, giving you enough to let you know what was going on without like, holding your hand through it. - Yeah. - Um, - It was a lot of show don't tell which Mm-Hmm. , I think I needed to be told a little bit more in some aspects. - Yeah. I mean, I, I get that.

Um, especially like with there being so many characters, uh, it's hard without having any back knowledge to maybe pick up on, um, all the characters' motivations on like, why they're doing what they're doing. Um, you know, why do, why does everyone want to kill these people? Like, I, um, - Yeah. - Yeah. There's, there's a lot going on. Um, watching it a second time, I think would, would really help.

Mm-Hmm. . Um, because once you have seen it once, then the second time through is really like, oh, okay. Yeah. That makes sense. Um, I see why they did that there. - Yeah. Or just, oh, I missed this, like, very crucial piece of information because I was trying to understand who everybody was. - Right. Um, - So to kind of transition from one to two, um, - But before we do that, who, who's your, who's your favorite character?

- Uh, - Or you can say who your favorite actor is, like playing a character. - Yeah. I think in, in part one, um, I, I do really like, um, Zendaya's character, but I, - In part one - Oh, that, sorry. Because she's - Barely in it. - Yeah, that's true. Well, I like looking at her. Okay. Leave me alone . I'm gonna be that guy. Uh, no. Uh, I actually, I see my brain has taken both movies and merged them, so now they're one entity in my mind. Uh, no. And I gotta think.

Um, yeah, I, I think some of my favorite scenes had to have been with, um, with Josh Brolin as Gurney. Mm-Hmm. , uh, he just, I always liked Josh Brolin in a movie, first of all. Um, but he just carried this weight of a character that I really appreciated. Uh, I think some people would, well, I, I'll let you answer. Who was was your favorite character or actor in part one?

- Well, um, I mean, I think, you know, the, uh, probably for me, I really, even though he's not in, like, all of the movie, I really liked I Oscar Isaacs character. Yeah. The, the Duke. Um, yeah. I just felt like he was really, he did, he did, seemed to do a good job of showing like, the leadership of his, his people, um, yeah.

Not being weak, but also being, you know, kind, you know, he wasn't, I guess if you were to compare him to another ruler off the top of my head, like a Mufasa, if you will. Oh. It was like, you know, like strong, you know, like, I can, I lead my people, but, um, I also have a, a kind heart, you know, I, I love my family. I, and I wanna do what's right. - Yeah. That's actually a great comparison. I hadn't thought of that before, but - I just, it just popped in my head. .

- It's great. You get, you get points in my book for it. - Um, yeah. I, I thought he did a, a great job of that. Plus I just, I love Oscar Isaac as an actor. Yeah. - Yeah. Same, same like him, uh, Josh Brolin, when they're on screen, I'm just like, yeah, I like these guys. But yeah. Uh, I thought Jason Momo's character was fine, but he just, Jason Momoa - Felt like Jason Momoa. Yeah. - He feels like Jason Momoa in every movie. Yeah. If I'm honest, - .

Yeah. He, it's kind of like the rock, you know, with Mm-Hmm. like, doesn't feel like they, they're good at what they do, but they don't have a ton of range. Right, right. - We're attractive, we're muscly, we're manly. Men - We're fun. That's - What we got going on. - Yeah. - But, uh, and like Timothy Chalamet, like, I, I thought he was a fine. He like, Mm-Hmm. . It's just, I think that character, that character feels very one note to me.

I, I don't know if, if it's the acting, if it's actually the character. Um, I, I think that, that the, what I struggle with is, I feel like in that first movie, he already knew I'm destined for greatness. Uh, as Paul, I'm, I'm destined for greatness. I know this. I've known this forever. Um, so it's like, not a surprise, you know, or, or there's nothing super special about him. Uh, he's kind of just this arrogant, rich kid that's, I had a problem with that.

- Yeah. Um, I felt like in the first film, the development of his character didn't, wasn't the smoothest for me. Mm-Hmm. , I felt better about it in part two. Um, yeah. And maybe that's because he, he had, you know, Zendaya's character to bounce off of more. Um, but yeah, I mean, he was fine. But for being like, for being the, you know, top build person in the movie, he definitely wasn't like my favorite actor or character. - Yeah, for sure. Um, so now I guess I'll transition into part two.

Um, I enjoyed Paul's character a little bit more in part two, um, because he does kind of have this character arc, and I don't know if there was a, um, I don't know if there was a misunderstanding on my part, but I felt like there was a moment where I was totally on his side. And then it felt like he kind of had an Anakin Skywalker moment and went bad. And then I was on his sight again by the end of the movie. So I had conflicting feelings, .

'cause I was like, yeah, I don't know that I want this kid to die, but at the same time, maybe he should. - Yeah, I definitely agree. You know, like at the end of the film, um, you know, when you, like, when you see what he does, and then like everyone's reaction to it, it's like, oh, like he is like the savior, except the way he's going about it feels kind of shady. Like, - Yeah.

- I don't know. - Well, like he's, he's having this inner conflict of like, well, we can't go to the southern part of the planet because all these bad things will happen. And then he like, has this dream and he is like, yeah, I guess we'll go ahead and go. That's cool. I'm like, , I, again, I'm probably just missing something. 'cause I've seen it one time. There's probably rage in the, in the comments going, dude, you gotta understand this or that.

Um, but - Do, do we have people in our comments, - Not right now, but I'm sure I'll get a nasty email from somebody at someone . Uh, yeah. I just, I liked his character more. Like, there were moments where I was like, ah, he is, he has a much better character. He has more personality. I love this conflict that he has, and then how he is, you know, in love with Zendaya's character.

Um, Mm-Hmm. . And I'm not saying her character's name because I, I'm worried I'm gonna mispronounce it, but I think it's like Chaney, if I'm not mistaken. Um, - I honestly don't remember off the top of my head. That's why I just keep saying Zendaya. . Yeah. - Um, but I, I liked, I loved her character. I, out of everyone, I absolutely adored her character and this fight of, and, and dedication to her people.

And you know, where, uh, spoilers at the end of the movie, uh, after, you know, Paul gets to, uh, attempts to take his his place, uh, she just kinda like, walks out and is just kinda like, screw you buddy. Um, and I don't know, I I thought that was great. Um, I actually kind of enjoyed Christopher Watkins character. I'm, I'm a weird Chris Walkin fan. Uh, - Yeah. I, I kind of, he's another person that I kind of expected to be in the movie more.

Mm-Hmm. . Um, maybe that just shows my lack of knowledge of the plot overall. - Right. - And, and I'm sure, like, it seems like, like, like I said, he and Florence Pugh, they'll probably be a bigger part of the story going on. Um, yeah. But it was just little bits and pieces here and there. Um, you know, Christopher Walken probably had like, what, like seven lines in the whole movie? Like ? Yeah. - Yeah. It sounded like 42 lines because of the way he talks. But , right. Um, - No, go - Ahead.

Yeah, go ahead with your thought. I, I have, I - Have a thought. No, you, you first. - Okay. . Um, were you impressed with the sand worms at all? Because I have a little factoid that I'm gonna throw out there. I just need your opinion before I geek out about them. - Yeah. I mean, I, I thought they were cool looking. Um, I, I've seen too many memes online that compare them to like, cat's, cat's butts.

Um, yeah. Yep. - Yep. Although you also had like the a MC cup that, uh, yeah, that's - The, the popcorn. It's questionable. Yeah. Um, yeah. And SNL had a, a skit about the popcorn bucket. Um, yeah. I'll never look at it the same. - I don't, I don't, yeah. That was a bad marketing move, - . - Um, so I heard, I, I think I read that, um, like the initial scene where Paul calls the sand worm to him and he's writing it, apparently they attempted to shoot that, that shot for three months, practically.

Like, so they built a sand worm for him to ride. And apparently they spent three months working on it, which is insane. And then they were just like, I guess we'll just go digital - . It was - So wild to me. I love practical effects. I think I've said that before in the show. Uh, I love seeing practical effects used, you know, and enhanced with, with cg Mm-Hmm. or visual effects. Um, but that just blew my mind that you would spend that long trying to get a shot to work. It just, that's crazy.

- And just, just to not use it. - Yeah. Yeah. Just, just to not use it. Uh, but overall, like, I, like, again, like it's, it's the same as the first movie. It was gorgeous. It was well done. The designs were very, very cool. I, excuse me, I would like to actually see more in this universe. Um, Mm-Hmm. not that we need like a, a dune cu or anything like that, , but I think it's, I think it's interesting.

I think it's a big enough world that you could play in it, uh, and not necessarily have to come back and touch on the source material all the time. That, that's just my assumption, just thinking about like Star Wars, um, and even Marvel at this point. So, um, overall, yeah. Oh, - I, I was just gonna say at, at the end of the movie, um, like, the houses do reject Paul's ascendants to the, the throne.

Mm-Hmm. . Um, so I do think going forward we will see a lot more of, you know, not just like the world, but like the universe as a whole. 'cause I yeah. Feel like we'll see more of the other houses, um, as this war begins. So I think you're, you're gonna get your, your wish and we're gonna see a lot more. A lot more. - Yeah. I, I would definitely be okay with that as long as I could pull it off.

Well, um, and I think if Denny Nu sticks with directing, like, I feel like he had his hand all over this. And I think if that continues to be the same, uh, situation for the next movie, Mm-Hmm. , I'm all in. I was very happy with these movies as a whole. I think if I didn't have part two, uh, well, when I didn't have part two, I didn't care for part one. But now that I've seen part two, I have an appreciation for part one Mm-Hmm. . And I'll probably go back and watch them together at some point.

- How did you see the twist of, of Paul's mom being the Baron's daughter? - No, I did not. Did you - See that coming? - Like, no. I, I didn't, again, things that just went over my head while we were watching it, I, I was like, wait a minute. Okay. - Yeah. - All right. - Like, I didn't see that coming at all. I may, I don't know if we were, like, if we were supposed to be blindsided by it or if we were supposed to. Like, I don't, I didn't see anything like pointing towards that.

So when that happened, when they showed that, I was like, whoa, that, that's crazy to me. But - Yeah, I, I think that, that was kind of my question the whole time was why is this Baren or, um, yeah, the Baren, uh, not the nah, Baren, but, uh, the Baren himself, I was like, why is he so integral to the story? Like, he showed up just so much. I was, I thought for the longest time that he was actually the Emperor. That's how lost I was with this movie.

- Hmm. - Or the first one, and a little bit of the second one. I had a good time though. - Yeah. Um, I'm, so, I kept like seeing The Baron, um, Mm-Hmm. it was, it was hard for me to separate. Like, he was the only person, like out of all the famous actors that were in, that he's the only person. And it was hard for me to separate the actor from the character. - Really? - Yeah. I, because I just, I kept, I was like, okay, like, this is a character.

Like, and I, for some reason, even though he's done like a million different things, I kept seeing his character from the MCU, like , Dr. E Eric Selvy, you know, he's, he's been in so many different movies. But like, I kept seeing that character and I'm like, no, , it's not Dr. Se Eric Swig. - That's funny. Yeah. This is just multiverse version. That's it. - Yeah. That's, that. That just shows I've, I've been in the MCU too long. - Yeah. . Well, yeah.

I mean, our whole movie culture has been in the MCU too long, I think. But - well, I think, I think it's definitely, I think we were, we talked about this in a previous episode, it's gonna slow down quite a bit. Yeah. - I'm happy for it. I, I will patiently impatiently wait for a Deadpool and Wolverine to change the entire face of the MCU - Now, um, with going back to Dune Mm-Hmm. , did you know that there's a Dune TV show coming out?

- I feel like I heard rumors of this, but I can't say for sure. - Yeah. So, um, I can tell you for sure because Wikipedia says it, and Wikipedia wouldn't lie. Right? Never. Right. Never. Um, but there's a show coming to Max called Dune Prophecy. - Okay. - And, um, it looks like it's the origins of the Ben JE Jesuit. Okay. How you say that, you know, that sisterhood Sec . Right. So that, that could be really interesting to be able to see more about that.

Like superhuman, like their ability to, like, what do they call it? The voice or whatever. - Yeah. - Um, yep. I, I forget what exactly do they call it that? Am I, - I do believe that they call it the voice. Yeah. Because I remember, uh, Jessica telling Paul, use the voice, like, if you want the water, use the voice. - Yeah. So, but seeing like the origins of like, how that developed and that whole Yeah.

Faith, religion, whatever it is. Um, yeah, - Because those care, the, that organization, Benny Jesuit, they had so much control over everything, which I thought was very intriguing because, um, I mean, even when it was written, like it's male dominated everything, but then to have like this undercurrent of women hold so much power, I think that was really cool.

And I feel like that's kind of where some of the stuff is shifting too, because you're seeing, you're seeing Chaney and Florence Pew's character. I was really trying there. Um, you know, they're kind of in all of the things. They're starting to stand up for themselves, um, more or less. But yeah, that'll be interesting. It - Really seem, it seems like they have their hand in everything and really, like, overall it seems really like this is their story.

Right. You know, because, you know, they're, they have their hand in each of the different houses. They, they have their hand in the, uh, the, um, I, I just, Christopher Watkin's character, um, - The Emperor, - The Emperor, - Not Emperor Palpatine - Not Right. Uh, they have their hand there with, with the daughter, um, just everywhere. So it really feels like they're the ones controlling everything. So this could, it could be very integral to the story of June overall.

Yeah. This, it says it's scheduled a premiere on Max in, uh, late 2024. - Okay. Um, so, - And actually, um, filming already wrapped, filming wrapped in December of last year. So it's Oh, that's nice. It's a done deal. It's coming. - Okay. Unless they decide to throw it in the trash, like Batwoman or Bat Girl. Yeah. Bat Girl. Well, - I, I don't think they're going to do that with this, but - Thanks Warner. I think this - Is, this is probably worth more than a tax write off.

- Yeah. I, I would hope so. . Uh, but, but Dave, did - You have anything else to Go ahead. Overall, - , I'm sorry. I didn't mean cut you off. That's all right. We, we do that internet has a delay and things can be edited. No problem. Um, overall, like what, were you pretty happy with both of these movies? Would you recommend them to people? - Yeah. Uh, I would definitely recommend them.

Um, I would recommend wa watching, like, if you haven't seen the first one, definitely like, watch it like back to back if you can. Um, yeah, because I, like I said, I really like, I enjoyed the first movie, but the second movie made me appreciate the first movie even more. So definitely like, watch them together. They should be consumed as like one entity, if you will. - Yeah. I'm sure one day we'll get like a master cut that's just both movies and extra stuff.

So it, it is a six and a half hour movie by the time you're done with it. It'll be like Lord of the Rings trilogy when they're like, here's the extended editions. So, uh, but yeah, I, I'm in agreement with you. I was very happy with both the movies. I have no desire to really go back and watch 1984 movie unless I decide, hey, let's make fun of a movie.

But yeah, - I'll probably, like, I would like to, before the next movie comes out, maybe go back and like, watch that, and then watch the, the mini series, which, you know, looks like a train wreck. Uh, just from like, the pictures that I've seen. - Uh, the one from 2000. - Yeah. - Okay. - Um, but yeah, I, I, there's too much, too many other things to watch and too many things to do to really Right. Bother to check them out right now.

But maybe just to get a fuller version of like, the dune plot overall. Maybe I'll check out those other adaptations. - Yeah. Well, that's all I have. - 'cause you know, it'll probably be a few years since we, until we get another one. - Yeah. Yeah. Probably. I mean, I don't even think they've started on part three, so my understanding is quote, it's still an embryo, I think is what they said. - All right. Well, Dave, it's been, uh, lovely chatting with you, .

I, I, I love talking to you and, um, spending time with our listeners. Uh, yeah. If they want to give us some feedback, where can they reach us? They - Should be able to email media or feedback. Take time back [email protected] or jump over to geek this podcast.com. Find all of our social media and you can yell at us there. - Yeah. We'd love to hear from you. Um, let us know you're listening. Uh, let us know what you thought of Dune.

Uh, tell us anything you would like to hear us talk about because we are, we're wide open. You know, we, we could talk about anything geek related, you know, movies, tv, comics, video games, you name it. We will review it, we'll talk about it. - We were that desperate. - You want to come on here and, and talk with us about it. We love making new friends. - That's true. That's true. So yeah, go over to geek this podcast.com. Um, check out previous episodes. If you're lucky.

Old, old, old episodes of the show might be available at some point in the near future. So, you know, if you like the older, you can - Check out our, our, our Batman on film. Um, yes. Which some may say are some of our best episodes ever. - That, and some people would include you and I, and many, many, many other friends that we've made along the way have really enjoyed that series. But, you know, there's no, we've, there's no good Batman.

- Yeah. Well, - No, I'm kidding. I - Well, yeah, we could argue about that. But, um, there, there are, there are more bad Batman films than there are good Batman films. Yeah, that's true. But, you know, maybe we will, uh, do another series like that because, um, those series are easier for us to plan around.

Um, it's easier to, stuff that's come out in the past, it's easier to find on streaming that, you know, we can watch whenever it's convenient for us instead of having to like schedule at a certain time. Um, tell us what kind of series you would like us to do. Do you want us to do one on, uh, Superman? Do you want us to do all the X-Men movies before Deadpool comes out? What do you want us to talk about? Yeah, - Let us know and, uh, we will ba be back soon with another episode.

And there's probably some other episodes that you're listening to after this episode that took place before this episode. 'cause we like to alter time like that. Also, I, I'm bad at editing sometimes. Alright, well, until next episode. Thanks so much for listening. We do appreciate it. Uh, David, I will see you sometime in the near future. - Yes, I will. I will see you when I see you . - Alright. In the, not in - The past. - That's right. We'll talk to you later. - Bye.

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