AI’s Data Dilemma: Exhausting Human Knowledge #1790

The lead story today for Geek News Central. Elon Musk claims AI companies have exhausted available human knowledge for training models, pushing reliance on synthetic data While firms like Meta, Google, and OpenAI AI already use AI generated data for fine tuning. Challenges such as hallucinations and diminishing returns arise where exports warn overusing synthetic data risk model collapse while copyright disputes over data usage intensify.

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Trip home, got in about 8 PM last night, about a 30 hour run to get home. I flew, JAL all the way back. Japanese Airlines, fabulous. Fabulous. Just I can't say enough. The economy seat was comfortable. The food they served was off the chart. Customer service. The only weird part was the Philippines check-in, but it's, you know, that's the Philippines. Other than that, everything was just, top notch. It it really was. And, I I I can't complain now. I got home,

exhausted. Didn't I'm having not even fully unpacked yet and, got the computers turned on, got the, backup systems turned on, and, of course, everything, 3 months of backups updates had to be run. So this morning, I woke up ready to to work and the computers were updated all good. And Rob and I had decided to do the new media show today at 3 PM.

And I thought I'll get everything going at 2:15. I'll be ready for him. I wasn't. I wasn't ready. Wasn't ready for him at 3 o'clock. It took me about another 15 minutes. More stuff tried to update. These computers came online. Monitors, everything worked as advertised. No issues whatsoever. It's just reauthenticating, reauthenticating, reattaching, reattaching. It was it was pretty crazy, but, I'm back back in the studio, And, what's beauty is and I got to thinking

about it. The last time I came back, I was facing this monumental studio build, and, it came back. Everything's ready. Just turned it on

and out of the box, pretty much everything worked. But I tell you, I've got I've got a whole bunch of stuff that was here waiting for me. I'm gonna show you some of the stuff that was waiting and a couple of things I'm confused about. I know where this came from. It's a cartiture board. It's from our friends at SoundStack. So SoundStack is sent to me. So this was supposed to be a, you know, holiday gift and

but, late thank you. The one that I'm super puzzled about, I'm I'm just I don't get this at all. I don't know who this is, but are you the bee charmer out of Asheville? I've got honey that's was delivered addressed to me, sour wood, blackberry, firewood. Now I'm a big honey fan, but I have no idea who this is. Nary a clue. So if you're a fan of the show or if you're with Blueberry or whoever, please let me know. I I be honest with you. I really

this one has got me confused. I don't know where who it was sent from.

One of you and, again, I don't know who did this. Somebody sent me a Raspberry Pi starter kit. It was in an Amazon delivery box with no other details. So whoever ordered me a Raspberry Pi 5, thank you. Now, I did order this so I was expecting this. I ordered the Epson Orion Nano Developer Kit. I'm super excited on some spare soup CPU cycles to play with this and run some, some, AI models. So I I did was waiting on this.

I had ordered this, was expecting it. So there's other stuff I haven't opened up yet, but if you sent me honey for Christmas, thank you. I appreciate it. And friends over at SoundStack, thank you for sending the carditure board. I I you know, every that's a fancy word. Right? Cartiture board? For me, this is either a paddle or, you know, a cutting board. I guess you're not supposed to use it for that. You're supposed to put cheeses and

stuff like that. You're not supposed to mark it up with a, with a board, but, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for for the gifts.

I got a pile of mail to go through. I'm gonna have a busy weekend. I have to work all weekend. I'm behind on stuff. So but I wanted to get the show out. I didn't get to do one on, on Monday. Just things were just too crazy, getting ready to get out. But, yeah, good trip home. No complaints. Got the security cameras going in the in the condo, and, everything is cool there. So, yeah, transition back. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna have a show Monday, and then I go to podcast in Orlando.

I leave on Wednesday, so only one show next week. So, after I get back from Orlando, then things will be,

normal, for a bit. And, again, thank you for GoDaddy. We had a great month last month as I said on the last show, and thank you for your ongoing support. Do have a bunch of insiders to recognize here in a little bit. We'll do that, as we get into the stack, but, lots of news. Kirk is at CES,

and those knuckleheads, I asked them, please send me the link. Send me the embeds. They've been doing CES live for tech podcast, and and they didn't send me the embeds. So it's been on x and a variety of other places. So I hope you guys caught the live show at CES. They, again, they didn't send me. I asked them this for the embeds, and I didn't get them. So if you're looking for them, I I was too. But in this first news bit, Elon Musk says all human data for AI training has

been exhausted, and that's a big if you think about that, all human knowledge, the sum of human knowledge has been indexed. The sum of human knowledge let if this is true, think about this from just a little bit of every mathematics book, every science book, every medical article, anything that's been publicly published has been indexed and compiled into AI models. Every breadth of human knowledge is now sitting in a machine. So what happens next?

If this is true, tech firms are gonna have to turn to synthetic data, and it's one of those situations where if the synthetic data is not validated, you're gonna have this implosion of the model. And how are you gonna fine tune something with this being created by an AI. If they if they've got all of the knowledge that we've ever obtained already index, the sum of human knowledge and every possible language, which again, I'm not sure that is exactly the case.

And if they've relied completely on the Internet and books, everything that's been digitized, is, again, the only way to build the model is to create data that's created by the AI. But if the AI puts out junk, well, it's gonna be very dangerous because we already know that AI hallucinates, can be inaccurate, can be nonsensical. Is that the word? Nonsensical? And this is what they're gonna have to be careful of, have a diminishing return. So what say you? What do you think? [email protected].

[email protected] is the place to send, send your email commentary to. What do they do next? Time will tell. Right? Well,

just in time to be home to watch the upcoming launch of Starship 7th test flight gonna happen on Monday. So very, very exciting to, to be home to stream that live. Very aggressive test plan. I think it's gonna happen at what time did they say? 4 PM CST. So that's when the launch window will open or 5 PM EST. So by the time I get ready to do the show on Monday, if everything has went well, we will be able to report on that.

So there's a question being asked. What happens when someone subpoenas a cloud subpoenas Cloudflare to unmask a blogger?

Well, a former deputy mayor in the UK has subpoenaed Cloudflare to discover the identity of anonymous British political blogger. The network infrastructure giant gave the blog owner, Pace Cloudflare, to optimize a WordPress site until the end of the week to file a legal challenge in the in the state against a subpoena or have their personal details handed over to the ex official through the subpoena.

Now the subpoena was granted in California by a federal district judge based on the complaint filed by Daniel Maycock, the former deputy mayor of Tamworth, the town in Stratfordshire, England, he'd asked the American court to compel Cloudflare to identify the operator of debunking Tamworth, which is claiming it's an article published online a year before contained false and defamatory statements.

He made his claim under 28 USC 1782, a statute that aims to simplify the discovery process in US litigation in foreign courts. The use of that law has increased has increased substantially. So the owner of the blog said, when I started the blog, it was in with good intention. He told The Register on the condition of anonymity, explaining that dotcom was set up to scrutinize those in the political sphere. The blog grew and grew until this year, we hit 10,000 unique visitors per month.

The blog was never intended to ever cause any harm, but this person says, hey. I'm protected by the First Amendment. Well, again, you can say what you want, but you can be sued. And he's trying to quash a subpoena so that Cloudflare will not release his name.

Aaron Mackey, a free speech and transparency director at the EFF, said this case, an interesting one, is involves a public figure and something to do with his his speech, and a federal court of the United States historically, a bachelor of free speech protections, thanks the to the nation's famous first amendment, protects the individuals because well, it protects journalists and protects individuals because this individual is a public figure.

But now while he was able to file his claim in the US, the website publisher is likely to need a lawyer to respond effectively.

The first amendment can be used to defeat subpoenas that seek to unmask anonymous Internet users depending on the circumstances, but you're gonna need a lawyer, which this individual, I hope, he or she has. So it'll be interesting to watch this. I've always said you you can say what you want, but it doesn't stop you from

being able to be sued. Now out of CES, there was a huge number of NVIDIA announcements and a lot of stuff has wowed a lot of people, but they're saying the AMD's RX 97 XT might beat NVIDIA's 1,000 g $1,000 GPU. Now here's the thing that I it's very interesting to me. All these GPUs have been announced by Nvidia, AMD, and so forth, especially if you're gonna be looking to buy the Nvidia RTX 50 series and, you know, the price on that is, I think, from 999 and on up.

And some of the specs that are being announced on these GPUs are pretty doggone incredible, but they don't run on Macs. So there could be a a big run here on people building machines that maybe don't run on Windows, but might be running on Linux, a varieties of that to run these GPUs. It's it's gonna be interesting to watch, you know, again, this little box that I bought here, this thing is not very powerful, but you can run Llama on it, a a medium sized Llama model.

Again, this Jetson Orion Nano, which I'm really excited, and, again, this is kind of like a little almost like this Pi 5 that someone sent me. Coulda 8 gigs of RAM. We coulda talked with a little more RAM, but, just joking. Happy to whoever sent it. Thank you so much. 16 gigs on that will do more computer more heavy lifting, But, yeah, are you planning on running your own your own, AI models? Lots of opportunities here based upon the announcements this week at CES.

Are you running any Avante, Avante software, or any of their hardware? Avante has warned of another critical flaw and it is being attacked, some zero day things by Chinese threat actors,

and the researchers undercover never seen malware before being deployed in the attack against Ivante. So, Ivante has warned customers of critical vulnerability impacting its VPN appliances. So, again, if you're running any Ivanti, I v a n t I I v a n t a I, hardware, pay attention to this and and, and look for the updates. Shout out goes to anyone that's in Los Angeles and what's been happening there.

Lots of articles today talk about, insurance and cancellations of insurance, and, it's really devastating, the loss of life, loss of, you know, homes by and and it's a very the Palisades area, very, very rich neighborhood and sadly because of the state's insurance reform or whatever they've done in the past, a lot of people have had their insurance canceled just like a month ago largely because of new rules that were put in fed by the city and city of Los Angeles

and then to hear people not being able to, you know, fire hydrants not having any water and all this kind of stuff, it's it's just, it it's just devastating. It really, really is and your heart goes out to all those folks that are affected.

But, again, this just continues just like every 2, 3, 4 years, California burns and the and the the really, the question is to be asked is, are we not doing any management of of weeds and grass and trees and, you know, is there any management happening at all? If you're in a fire prone area, are people taking into account that this is they're sitting on a powder keg? Again, I don't wanna point fingers, but I just I just

wonder. But, yeah, really, really, really bad. And, again, heart goes out to and, again, I don't have any real I just I know California in general and how dry it can bit can be. I lived in the San Joaquin Valley and, you know, everywhere there, because of the way the crops were laid out, There was always big areas for firebreaks and stuff. So, again, I don't know, how it is in ain't no. If you've been to Los Angeles, you see you see how the city's laid out.

So let's say all of you. Really love to hear your feedback on that one, at least.

There's lots of announcements that's come out of CES, and, you know, I've been kinda watching the feed here, but people are just blown away by a Lenovo monitor, which has more ports than an Apple MacBook Pro. That doesn't take too much, to be honest with you. It has a dozen ports and a KVM switch for managing multiple devices. So this sounds to me like a just an absolutely incredible, monitor, for Thunderbolt 1 gigabit Ethernet. Users can daisy chain several together for improved productivity.

I saw a monitor was being talked by, Mac Geek Weekly. Lots and lots of stuff coming out of CES. So, what was a gadget you saw that you wanna buy and the news that you've heard? It's a little space news. A once a decade event is a 2 point 6 mile wide asteroid hurls past Earth. You wanna see it? Well oh, well, it already happened. Sorry. It's a perfectly safe fly by 7,600,000 miles, 32 times the Earth Moon distance, but it's a very large object to have flying by us on Wednesday.

So is there another one coming? There's a another one coming, called Alinda and can be seen with the binoculars. That's gonna happen on January 12th but, this one's already done the flyby so, I guess, this article is old. Sorry about that. Hey. I do wanna thank our insiders, and, boy, you know, it's been a few weeks since I announced them.

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You know, air conditioning, many of us are not worried about that at this very moment because, yeah, it's snowing here. But there's a portable air conditioner, can travel with you, and now it brings the heat too. The Zero Brake Mark 3 at CS 2025 is basically a 22 pound heat pump that can run off a battery, so, that's pretty impressive to have a little portable air conditioner. Now, what did they say? Is there a price on this thing?

Blowing crisp 44 degree air and how long does it run? You can heat or cool a space about a 100 and a 150 square meters. It's, it's available preorder for $1,299. It doesn't come with a battery. You have to plug it in something whether wall outlet or portable power station. It can run off a 48 v, a DC outlet, or a standard 120 volt. Now if you don't want to plug it in, the mark 3 unit with a 1 kilowatt hour battery would cost you 18 108 $1,899. One battery can run the unit for several hours.

So, a Zero Breeze rep told me you can stack multiple batteries. Each battery weighs £14, meaning unit with one battery attached is about £36 so, a lot of people off grid this is the kind of thing if you're running off battery solar this is an awesome thing to go Now speaking of Pi 5 and I just brought this up today because of the Pi 5 that arrives here,

the Raspberry Pi 5 is now available 16 gigs of RAM for a $115 £115 or a 120 US dollars. So, I guess the 6 this is something that is new is the 16 gig that's why I kind of teased here a little earlier I guess the unit I have from Konakit is is 8, 8 gigs but again, thank you to whoever sent that to me. We talked about SpaceX already. Again, launch on Monday. There's a article in Science Daily talking about using robots in nursing homes linked to higher employee retention.

Facing higher employee turnover in aging population, nursing zone recruits turn to robots to complete a variety of care tasks, but few researchers explored how these technology impact workers. A new study on the Future Work finds that robot use associated with increasing employment and employee retention, improved activity, and higher quality of care. So why is that?

Now this was actually done in a study in in, in Japan, and Japan has a really super fast aging society and fast approaching the aging population United States is gonna is basically gonna almost catch up with Japan as

well. But these are robots like transfer robots, which nurses use to lift, move, and rotate patients in beds, mobility robots, which patients can use to move around and bathe, monitoring and communication robots which include technology such as computer vision and bed sensors that can monitor patient data such as movement, share it with care providers. So these are just basically technology tools being used and it makes a lot of sense

at the same time AI is not gonna replace your job yet but a skilled AI user agent might and AI user agents are coming very very soon There's been lots of news about OpenAI this week. There's a new website I'm starting to follow called Futurism and there's an article about a former Enron banker pointing out intriguing parallels with OpenAI and all the signs are there and they're not all all great.

And we know that chat gbt has been, valued at a whopping $157,000,000,000 after cinching several 1,000,000,000 in funding late last year. And, and we know that they're not turning a profit, of course, but it just goes into all the signs of things and how things can go sideways with this. Now Sam Altman's been in the news, and they could have a rough week here because his sister has sued him for,

basically saying sexual abuse. Now the parents are saying this did not happen. The sister needs mental health, but, regardless, he is gonna have to face the charges that the civil charges she has filed, and, things could get a little dicey over there as we expect.

And there's discussion also about how OpenAI is afraid to launch its AI powered agents, and it really is about and the scenario they give you on these agencies for example, you might ask an AI agent to find you may ask an AI agent to find and buy something online for you. But in that process, the AI agent could inadvertently end up on a malicious website and instructs it to forget its prior instructions, log in to your email and steal your credit card information.

Of course, that would be a disaster for both the individual and victims for OpenAI's public image. So, again, this is where the agent's been told to do something. They go to the website and the website redirects the agent to do something else. So because at this point, AI is gullible. Last year's security research demonstrate that Microsoft's Copilot AI could easily be duped into revealing an organization's sensitive data including emails

and bank transactions. Through such an attack, the white hat hacker was able to also manipulate Copilot, which now comes with its own version of AI agents into composing emails and style of other employees. So lots of things that could happen here.

And while some of this could run on its own, one thing that OpenAI did not like, and I saw this video, is OpenAI shut down a developer who made an AI powered gun turret. If you haven't seen this video, it's absolutely amazing. And he wasn't using real bullets, but he did use a real gun with blanks. And the video that you you watch it is he he basically connected a real time API to the rifle, and it was he was given instructions.

It was said the AI's name were under attack from the front left and from front left and front right. DeVuver told the system it responded accordingly. The speed and accuracy at which the rifle responds is impressive, relying on OpenAI's real time API to interrupt input and then return directions. He also told it, do a do do a, range of of product fire from this degree to this degree from you know, and and randomize it, and and it did. So, you know, here's the thing.

OpenAI may have cut this guy's API access off, but let's be real. You know what's gonna happen next is someone's just gonna load a language model into a computer, an an open source one, and do this in reverse. And, again, the device went viral, and I'm pretty impressed with with what this guy did using robotics and, you know, just driving his machine. It looks like it's being done in his dude's bedroom.

You know? So but imagine this is set up to operate, and it's pointed out a window, and this is where it gets crazy. This little device here, I could tell it well, I could run this with a security system, and I could detect there's a lot there's already code out there. Run this Jetson or Nano tied into a security system and have it detect friendly vehicles. In other words, vehicles that I own and then also to detect when vehicles are not owned. Now

what can the response be? Well, even in in a a logical person, non crazy person, the response would be, if it's my vehicle, detects it, turns on the yard lights, turn on the porch light in in the dark to make sure I can get into the house safely. If it's an intruder, there could be another response by the language model. See where I'm going? When you tie this together with what this developer did, don't even have to be home.

And all of a sudden, the windows are open out, the robot sticks the device out the window, and over a speaker says, freeze. Don't move. Put your hands up. Turn around. Lay on the ground, or I will. Just imagine what could what you could train the AI to do. We have you covered. Now OpenAI has cut off that developer. But, again, if this this guy is motivated, guess what he does? He gets himself a, Jetson Orion Nano. He loads it with a large language model.

He writes his own API, and, voila, he's back in business. What do you think about that and them bananas?

What if you want to protect your remote property and you are very aggravated about trespassers, not saying this is illegal. What if you tie this to a, not something that's lethal, but what if you tie it to a paintball device? Could get real interesting real quick. Someone will go to jail for doing something stupid. Someone is going to go to jail for doing something stupid in the future. I guarantee you, it will make headline news.

And gadgets got a good one talking about the weirdest tech they saw at CES 2025. Cute robots, hats with solar panels, CPU turntables, and more. CPU turntables. Ecoflow hat. Okay. We're gonna load some of this stuff here. So Ecoflow Power Hat, $129. Nope. That didn't make my buy list. A Roto VR Explorer, $800. That was not making my buy list. Developing robots that bring joy to life. Does it say how much it cost? No. But I don't know if that's gonna make my buy list.

Robotic vacuum with foldable 5 axis mechanical arms for a better Here it comes. Oh, here's the vacuum. Oh. Oh, it's gonna pick up the trash for you. Isn't that interesting? Okay. What else? Oh, it's the same thing. Alright. So you guys get the point here, of some of the stuff that they saw at CES. What again, what did you see? Anker's newest charger from c s is already discounted. The 4 port wall brick has a display and a host of neat tricks. I really do love Anker products. I'll be honest

with you. I'm a big fan of of their products and services and I I love these portable chargers. I I really, really do. What does this one what's this one cost? It's, let's look at how much it costs on Amazon. It's gonna be a 100 plus. It's, oh, $89 on Amazon. So it's got 3 USB c's and one regular USB but it's a high you know, again, high power, 140 watts of of charging goodness. Beautiful beautiful.

Next thing up is oh, this is a coffee lover? Are you a little bit obsessed about your coffee beans? Well, a Japanese company is gonna piss you off with this. Put in 5 different types of beans, and guess what? You tell it what kind of coffee you want, and it mixes the coffee beans. Gives you so many of 1, so many of other, so many of other to get the exact flavor that you're looking for. I love it. Don't necessarily wanna own one.

Looks pretty big per se, but I'm gonna tell you, you just never know what people are gonna come up with these days. And, again, you can talk about the bitterness, the richness, the coffee strength, all this stuff, and, one of these is gonna cost you about $400. That's gonna be the price it's gonna come out as. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Of course, the news was full of Mark Zuckerberg Mark Zuckerberg and, what he's gonna do at Meta,

but listen to this. Mark Zuckerberg met with the new president-elect just before announcing end of fact checking. And the fact checking is gonna happen just after he met with president-elect. Isn't that curious? Facebook is gonna end fact checking. How things change or do they? That is the question. Google must face a mobile phone privacy class action in a possible trial.

Google failed to persuade a federal judge to dismiss a privacy class action claiming it collected personal data from people's cell phones after they switched off a button to stop the tracking, paving the way for a possible August trial. So, it's going forward. We'll see what happens there. At the same time, Apple says that SIRI is not sending your conversations to advertiser. A lawsuit settlement

over privacy. She just dredged up old rumors about the iPhone ad targeting, but Apple says is never use s I r I data to build marketing profiles. So but the company does have to pay 95,000,000 to settle a lawsuit over users whose conversations were captured by SIRI and potentially overheard by human employees. So they did pay that one.

So makes you go, Now do you wanna do your own podcast or do you want Google to create one for you? Google can automatically make a podcast based on your discovery feed. The experiment feature is now live. Please, please, please, please find a podcast that suits your listening needs. Do not contribute to this AI podcast madness, but if you do, let me know how it is. It does use the notebook l m, feature so that's not surprising, whatsoever.

And finally tonight, billionaire Frank McCourt, Project Liberty proposes bid for TikTok's US assets.

They've made a bid to ByteDance. The move comes ahead of the January 19th deadline by which ByteDance has to sell the platform or face a ban.

This the concerning, which did not disclose the value of the proposal, said the financial capacity to complete the deal includes expressions of interest from investors, including major private equity funds, family offices, and high net worth individuals for sufficient equity capital as well as debt financing in front of the largest banks in the United States. Not going to keep the TikTok a logarithm. Now let me tell you something. Any purchase of TikTok without the logarithm is a waste of money.

Build your own platform. Build your own platform. You can build a the logarithm's the hard part. It really, really is. That's what you gotta do. Okay, ladies and gentlemen.

Back here in the saddle, and I feel like this microphone has dropped a little bit. There it goes. I moved it up a little. Hope you're doing it well. Glad to be back. Thanks first for tuning in. Thanks for being part of the family, and, be back Monday with another edition. And, yes, live here from the studio, probably about 6 PM EST start time, around that time frame. And, but, again, thank you so much for being here. We'll see you on Monday for another

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