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Romeo from EHIRE
One of them was gagging, elbow, literally gagging, spitting up, saliva. And just like it was just a lot of crying and yelling and trying to cast out this thing that just wasn't there.
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Dan Hall
This week's guest Romeo Records had his twin brother cameo under the name of Arie. They come from Brooklyn in New York and have been recording and performing original music since they were nine years old. Their music has been featured on over 500 different playlists, including Spotifys own editorial playlist, Fresh Finds R&B, as well as Billboard Pride, Queer Necessities.
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Dan Hall
Their debut EP resigned over 200,000 streams across all streaming platforms, and they were nominated by Pop Smash Radio for best R&B song by a duo or Group Romeo. A big welcome, please, to In the Key of Q. Hello.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Hey!
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Romeo from EHIRE
I remember being like, I think 3 or 4. And my mom would be playing Madonna Holiday or Anita Baker, or when Houston would be clean the house. My mother sings, too. So, that's definitely the reason why MC hammer fell into it. Because it was. We were always in music, surrounded by music, and it was just in our DNA to do it.
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Dan Hall
I grew up in a house where the radio was always on. There was always some Barbra Streisand or some Rod Stewart or whatever, and I can't imagine a house without music constantly playing.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Right. Yeah, we definitely grew up with a lot of music, for sure. My parents are Haitian and they were pretty like they were pretty young, 20 years old around when they had me in cameo. So we definitely grew up on a lot of MTV, but, listen to the radio a lot. So we grew up in a lot of pop culture, R&B music, and definitely Haitian music as well.
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Romeo from EHIRE
So music was literally as a part of our lives. So that's how we end up becoming artists. We just fell in love with it from a very young age.
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Dan Hall
And you talked about people like Anita Baker being played and Madonna with holiday. Was there any particular artist that really you feel now stuck with you and has been a particularly strong influence in the material you make now?
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Romeo from EHIRE
Yes, I think so. I would say all the greats, honestly. Fuck Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, a Destiny's Child, usher. I think I could name them all. You know, Queen, Barbra Streisand and Lady Gaga. I think all the artists that I've listened to, they've just. There's something about them. I just. I'll take them with me.
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Dan Hall
Oddly enough, I was just listening to the 12 inch version of Raspberry Beret the other day from Prince, and I'd forgotten what a fantastic song that was. And I do feel that maybe Prince. It's about time the Prince had a little bit of a renaissance in terms of popularity.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Yeah.
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Dan Hall
He's so amazing and groundbreaking.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Yes, absolutely. He's a definitely a pioneer in his sound, his style. Cam and I, we look up to him a lot for sure, when it comes to, like, images and style and wardrobe. He's really, really was ahead of his time. And fearless too. He was doing things that a lot of black men were afraid to do, from makeup to heels, to even just being flamboyant.
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Romeo from EHIRE
And when it comes to his style as well, the clothing, how it fit his body, everything. He really, really set the standard, for artists. And I could say for creative. Still, I know I definitely look up to Prince for sure for a lot of things.
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Dan Hall
A lot of our listeners download this podcast in countries where they may not have heard of Prince I, or I'm just citing him simply because I think he is hugely inspiring. How would you describe Prince to someone who doesn't know who he is, doesn't know his music, doesn't know his style, and has no sense of the of the relevance that he has in Korean culture.
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Romeo from EHIRE
I would start off by saying Prince is black as hell, okay? The attitude, his energy. He's definitely a force. He's beautiful. I mean, like stunning, beautiful, beautiful man. His hair and his hairstyles. Signatures. You can you can always. You know, Prince, when you see the hair, when you see the black moment of the job or whatever it is, he's always giving you some sort of hair, some sort of cat eye.
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Romeo from EHIRE
And purple. I think purple is, is definitely signature color. So I think those are things that I would use to describe transcend. When Doves Cry like that's one of his biggest records. And, I would definitely love to play that back for them to like, because even the production in that is amazing and timeless.
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Dan Hall
And not only was he a brilliant performer, but he was also a brilliant songwriter, wasn't he? Because he wrote songs for other people. You know, he wrote like Manic Monday to Me, which is a brilliant song.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Yeah, yeah. He also wrote two, I believe, Priscilla E Glamorous Life, which is one of my fave. Yes, I love that song. I love the collaboration of the two. It's really, really good.
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Dan Hall
Because I think people hugely underestimate the the skill in writing a good pop song. People think that because pop is a sort of 3.5 minute, relatively consumable products, that it's easy to do. And I don't make music myself. But saying to you, as someone who does create music, I imagine creating a good pop song is not easy.
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Romeo from EHIRE
No it's not. It takes his time. I think that it's really it's really all about the melody. But more importantly, the hook to the hook is very important to what you're saying is important and how you're seeing it, how you're singing it. Because it helps move the record and also moves the person that's listening to the song.
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Romeo from EHIRE
You. So it's definitely very difficult. I know it's definitely taken me some time to write some of the songs that's on our E.P. now, just because we wanted to make sure that, sonically, it matched what was happening on the radio.
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Dan Hall
And have you ever had the situation where you've written a song? You think this is a great song is really, really good, but we can't do it because it just doesn't fit my voice.
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Romeo from EHIRE
We. When things like that happen, we would just end up rewriting the song, right? So Half Bad is one of our records too. And, that song was a different record and, you know, I was singing in the studio. The engineer was like, you know, I think you need to just kind of switch it up. So I became what it is now, but we had to just kind of really dig deeper and push ourselves when it comes to like writing songs.
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Romeo from EHIRE
So I it can be heartbreaking. But sometimes, you know, pressure makes demands and that's what happens.
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Dan Hall
So for those of us outside the music industry, what do things like engineers do and producers do? How did they interact with you in the studio? What's that role?
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Romeo from EHIRE
So an engineer, their job is, is pretty much mixing the record, making sure that the vocals are sounding right. Mixing the track itself, making sure that the levels are correct as well. There's someone else that actually matches the record to the engineer can master the record, but you know, there's you know why too many people, and hands in a pod.
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Romeo from EHIRE
But the producer, they can they just pretty much create the actual track, the music itself. They can also engineer journals. Most time they end up being producer and engineers. Both. Both hats. But each job is different. One is more of a mixer, making sure the sound is there, and the other one is creating the sound.
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Dan Hall
So what was that moment then? Where you where you realized, I can't just sit and listen to music. I've got to start creating it. What was that tipping point?
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Romeo from EHIRE
Oh my God. So Cami and I were home. I remember like, yesterday we were home and we were nine. And I'm not sure if you know of this artist. His name is Sammy. He's an R&B star in America, and he was like, maybe at least 10 or 11. And when he popped onto the screen, we were already singing.
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Romeo from EHIRE
But when he popped up on the screen, he was singing the song. I think the song is called I Like It. And at that moment, I knew that this is what we need to be doing. I think early on in our crew, we just really focused on the fame part of it and and what that look like, right?
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Romeo from EHIRE
Watching TV and seeing your favorite artist coming out of the limousines or living in this lavish life. So I think once we kind of, like, turned away from that and started just really focusing on the art and just loving our art and just loving the life that we're living. It became easier to just kind of the murder cells.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Being queer. There was no one really looking for us. You know, I think similar NAS X, you know, that was the first time seeing someone black and openly gay and not just being Oakland. Gatewood. Fearless and pushing the boundary. Pushing the envelope. This is the first time we've actually seen that. I think, in our lifetime. So for a long time, no one was really checking for queer artists.
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Romeo from EHIRE
So we just had to really change our thinking and just learn to be happy with who we are, where we are, and just always put our best foot forward.
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Romeo from EHIRE
So seeing someone like Lil NAS X just means that we can do this, that this is going to pay off. You know, can we just gotta keep on going?
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Dan Hall
What do you think about people who will go? Why does it matter if performers are gay? Why does it matter? Why do you care? Why are you talking about it? Why is this relevant?
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Romeo from EHIRE
I think it's important. Mainly because, you know, we were demonized and we still are demonized, right? You know, we're told that. I mean, I was told that we could not be successful, that we would not be able to do music or be successful at it, or being in a lab or get jobs or just be able to do anything just being black and gay.
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Romeo from EHIRE
So I just think that being in the industry and being visible just means that we can, you know, and, I think it's important that kids see that there are a lot of kids. I mean, I'm so glad that there's shows like Drag Race and other queer shows that are on TV. Because I didn't really have that growing up.
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Romeo from EHIRE
But it's important to see those kind of things because, when you're told that you're going to hell or that you're, you're not worthy, you know, that really does affect your mental health and that cause a lot of suicides and a lot of this self-destructive behavior. So, having visibility, having people that are visible and out there doing their things and being good and great at what they do is very important and extremely healthy for, me and, you know, the, the youth.
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Dan Hall
So you talked about going to hell.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Yeah.
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Dan Hall
So tell me about your experience with someone saying that to you.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Oh, Jesus. We've gotten that so much growing up. You know, like I said, you know, my family were Haitian and stuff, and, you know, my family definitely progressed now. Like, they're definitely much better. But when cam and I came out, we grew up in the church, and it was not, easy thing. We were immediately condemned.
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Romeo from EHIRE
We was always made to feel uncomfortable because we were always flamboyant. Anyway. We didn't really play sports. We were always into the art, singing, dancing. I loved playing with Barbies and things like that, but, growing up in the church, you know, I remember one time we were doing a church fashion show and the youth pastor, you know, somehow we felt comfortable telling our youth group, that we were dealing, you know, or, you know, we were gay, but dealing with it back then.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Right? And our youth pastor, pretty much, you know, access to was still gay. And if we were that, we couldn't walk on the fashion show because he didn't want that spirit to jump out onto any of the congregation members. A lot of the stuff was just extremely ridiculous. We've been exercised at one point. Science is a lot of different things.
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Romeo from EHIRE
It's a lot of us from a tithing. I think now I've gotten to a place where I can. I don't want to laugh at it, but I can definitely just kind of just be okay while talking about these things. But it was extremely traumatic. We've got I've gotten put out of my home, I, you know, at one point in time and were living in a homeless shelter.
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Romeo from EHIRE
And we have all our family in New York City, and no one really wanted to kind of create space. A lot of, I remember one of my aunts, she was a little more concerned about her kid, you know, and as affecting her child and, you know, it was just a lot of weird things that we had to deal with.
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Romeo from EHIRE
It really taught us how to survive. I think that those things really helped me and came in relationship to be tighter because he really had to rely on each other a lot. Thank God we had each other. But even then, that too, there was a bit of a struggle, too, because we both, you know, we're dealing with our own identity and coming to terms with that as well.
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Dan Hall
That's a huge amount to unpack. I mean, exorcism, starting with exorcism. Well, that in there. How did that look?
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Romeo from EHIRE
It was a mess. So we were actually heading out of our home. We was actually staying with our mom for a little bit. This was actually right after the whole shelter situation. And we stayed with our mom. And at the time, my mom was still hoping that, you know, her sons would be straight. And for whatever reason, being away, she had, a group of friends and that she want us to meet.
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Romeo from EHIRE
And they were they came over and they it was three women. And they were there to pray. And they handed us a list. And on that list was a list of sins. And one of the sins was homosexuality. And either way, we're not we're not standing, you know, as we're sitting at one point, but we are surrounded by these women and they're praying over us.
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Romeo from EHIRE
And, they're asking to speak to a demon that's in us. So they're hexane for the demon to speak, and she asks for a name. And I remember just throwing out a random name, David. And at one point my mom looked over the yes, I've heard that name David before the demon. And but we're just like, kind of see that gagging because it's like, okay, we're not possessed this.
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Romeo from EHIRE
There's nothing happened. I don't feel a thing, you know, a demon or fire, you know, coming out of me or whatever. But they were in prayer. They were one. One was gagging at one point, literally gagging, spitting up, saliva. And just like it was just a lot of crying and yelling and trying to cast out this thing that just wasn't there.
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Romeo from EHIRE
More like 2425 at this point. So we're we weren't kids. We were well aware. We're full, you know, full adults. And, you know, I'm at this point, you know, pretty dived into my queerness. So I was pretty much, you know, I wasn't disturbed by it, but I was actually I was disturbed by it. I was definitely bothered, I was annoyed, I didn't understand why my mom did not act as if that was something that she could do.
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Romeo from EHIRE
But that happened. And, we did talk about that, afterwards. And we did tell her we didn't expect that. Like, this was extremely uncomfortable. But I think a lot of that my mom did that really out of fear. For some reason, she really feared that, you know, we would die from HIV or we would be beaten up or whatever.
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Romeo from EHIRE
But here we are, still alive and well.
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Dan Hall
To any confused parents listening, to save your children shitting on, self-esteem and sense of self-worth, that probably isn't the best strategy.
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Romeo from EHIRE
No. It's tough. I know for a while I struggled, with just forgiveness and bitterness. I've. I don't want to say hate, but I really despised a lot of my family members. Because, I mean, I. The world definitely tried me. If I put my wall. Was really school at or the church and my family. So when the family crumbled, everything else kind of was, it was it was at stake.
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Romeo from EHIRE
So it was really a lot for me to kind of pull myself out of, because I have a really large family and we are dysfunctional, but pretty close. Then when that support was snatched away, it really caused a lot of anger, for sure.
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Dan Hall
And we've had a complex relationship on this podcast with religion in general. We've had people like Blake Mandel talk about how forced conversion therapy drove him to attempt suicide. We've had so many stories on the health of the church just making people feel awful about themselves. How what's your relationship with church now and with faith? How do you reconcile it?
00:20:12:14 - 00:20:43:17
Romeo from EHIRE
It wasn't something. It wasn't a solo practicing in Africa before we were enslaved by the white. Right. It was something that we've actually picked up at that point, because the slave masters would use the Bible and that religion to convince us that we were not a good enough race. Right. So I kind of felt like that carried over into just black culture now, and that same oppression just kind of still exists now, my relationship to the church, I don't go to any particular church anymore.
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Romeo from EHIRE
If there is a Jesus, I am happy that he did die for my sins because I don't want to go to hell if the if there is a how that does exist, you know? But, I think it definitely has changed after, you know, those experiences inside the church and at home.
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Dan Hall
So what is modern America like for black queer men?
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Romeo from EHIRE
I would say there's been a lot of growth, right? But that just really depends on the person. Because I think, you know, everyone struggles differently. So I think you can ask another queer man, a black queer man, the same question. He might give you a different response. I think there I feel like removing something. I don't feel like where progressing at all, you know, because, you know, we do have like like I said, we have the acts.
00:22:04:20 - 00:22:27:21
Romeo from EHIRE
Right? But then where's the other girls? Where's are the moments? Right. Thank God for RuPaul, you know, and drag Race and what that brings to you. Right. But, it's we need more, you know, I want more. I want to see more. I want to see more black blackness on TV, you know? And I want to see more queer black relationships on TV.
00:22:27:23 - 00:22:50:06
Romeo from EHIRE
And you really don't see that? I actually really don't see queer black male relationships on TV. Now. So that makes that I think that makes dating quite weird because, you know, dating out here is strange and we don't really have like, any kind of like, you know, how you watch, like, you see, like, you know, straight couples, right?
00:22:50:06 - 00:22:59:19
Romeo from EHIRE
We have movies on how they romance and all those if we don't have that. So it's kind of which is still kind of here trying to figure it out honestly.
00:22:59:21 - 00:23:04:22
Dan Hall
And it's back to the point that you were making earlier. But it is important to see yourself. Yeah.
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Romeo from EHIRE
And I mean and you do see, you do see like, you know, a lot of interracial relationships, like I'll be running down right. I and I'll see like the black and the white and that's cool too. Right. But you don't really see black love more on that existing. So it's, definitely very strange. Extremely strange actually.
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Dan Hall
You're absolutely right. That and, chap here in London called Mark Thompson, who's a fantastic queer advocates and career activist. He does a lot of work around prep awareness. He started an organization called Prep Star. He was approached, I think, by transport for London, who run our transport system and asked to create a, kind of a stop sign, I suppose, but like a station sign for one of those stations, he was asked to replace the name of that station with something else.
00:24:02:06 - 00:24:14:21
Dan Hall
And so he replaced it with a sign that said black man loving black man is a revolutionary act. And I thought that was just fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And that was up in our subway station for like at least a month.
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Romeo from EHIRE
Wow, wow. She's a bit longer. But I'm glad that we've gotten a month and it's yeah.
00:24:22:18 - 00:24:30:17
Dan Hall
You're right, it should have been that long ago. But I guess at some point they'd go, it does actually have to give the name of the subway station, or people might not know where they are.
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Romeo from EHIRE
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Dan Hall
So despite a lot of the isolation that you face, the criticism you felt, from faith, from church, and it sounds like from family as well, you had the benefit of the closeness of a twin brother he has. What's that like?
00:24:51:09 - 00:25:23:09
Romeo from EHIRE
Oh my God, I think, I couldn't imagine life without a cameo. Right. I think, you know, cam and I, we never had to come out to each other. It was just, I don't know, we were always with each other, so we just pretty much knew everything about each other. We still do.
00:25:23:11 - 00:25:45:06
Romeo from EHIRE
And I think growing up queer with him, it was just like, a little safe zone. Like I just a personal best friend that you just have forever, you know? I remember one of our friends just kind of thing was like, you, you guys are always fine. Like, if you have no one, you guys have each other, and it's true.
00:25:45:08 - 00:26:11:07
Romeo from EHIRE
You know, I can go. I can travel the world of cameo and be literally satisfied. Laughs and just have a good time with him. Because this is someone that knows me. And who's also like me and similar to meet a lot of ways and or at the same time very different. It's it's great. I think, you know, having siblings is amazing, period.
00:26:11:07 - 00:26:31:07
Romeo from EHIRE
But I think me and cameo just having us both being queer, it just really created this closeness. We have to protect each other, you know, especially growing up in the environments that we grew up in. But it really caused us to be really close and protective of each other. It's a lot of love. I can say.
00:26:31:07 - 00:27:05:03
Romeo from EHIRE
It's a lot of love and a lot of fun.
00:27:05:05 - 00:27:25:08
Dan Hall
Now then, Romeo, when I finish this recording, I'll take it into the edit and cut us down a little bit. And make nip and tuck here in there. But for the next two minutes, I'm not going to do that. Because one of the main reasons I wanted to do this podcast was to give queer artists a chance to have their voices heard, and to have their voices heard as loudly and as honestly as possible.
00:27:25:10 - 00:27:43:14
Dan Hall
So I'm saying to you, you know, this is your chance to climb up onto your soapbox. And without me doing anything else, I'm not going to I'm not going to interpret what you're saying or anything. The next two or so minutes are all yours to talk about. Whatever you want, literally whatever you want.
00:27:43:16 - 00:28:22:12
Romeo from EHIRE
Literally whatever I want. So, oh my God, I don't know what to talk about. I guess I would start by saying to my fellow queer artists out there, be easy on yourselves. Love yourselves. Use your friends, listen to your friends. Listen to yourself sometimes, too. Eat. Sleep, rest. Maybe walk. Change the way you think, the way you see things.
00:28:22:14 - 00:28:44:04
Romeo from EHIRE
You know? Because I know that can be a struggle. Sometimes when we wake up and we're still struggling or we're still, you know, waiting for this moment or waiting for this big break every chance we wake up. That is a moment to break. You know, that's the moment to make something new. You know, learning to live in teeth, living you.
00:28:44:04 - 00:29:07:07
Romeo from EHIRE
Now. You know, I learned a long time ago from church, the pastor said, paint a picture of your life and start living it, you know? And, I'm a firm believer of just living and doing whatever it is that you want that's going to make you happy, being safe. A lot of us can be very self-centered. We got to be considerate of others and their feelings and how it's going to land.
00:29:07:08 - 00:29:09:19
Romeo from EHIRE
Then remember to be professional.
00:29:09:21 - 00:29:14:18
Dan Hall
What do you think your 15 year old self would think of you and the man that you've become?
00:29:14:20 - 00:29:39:24
Romeo from EHIRE
Oh my God. I think if I had to, see the 15 about me, I would probably gag. I would probably gag, honestly, but I going to make it when I find a 15 year old me wanting to be signed to whatever. But I think I whatever cost, right, whatever cost, I would probably got 50 year old me, but I would.
00:29:39:24 - 00:29:57:13
Romeo from EHIRE
We ensure that we're good, you know, and maybe play them a track or two so they can get into like, no, we're making good stuff. So yeah, I think 15 year old me would be pretty proud of where I am at now and what we're doing and where we're going.
00:29:57:15 - 00:30:03:09
Dan Hall
Do you think they would recognize themselves, or would they see a complete stranger in front of them?
00:30:03:11 - 00:30:20:09
Romeo from EHIRE
They definitely would recognize, but they'll probably be annoyed because I'm bald and I was not preparing for that. So the 50 year old me would definitely be gagging about that, like, we're bald. What's going?
00:30:20:11 - 00:30:21:14
Dan Hall
What have you done?
00:30:21:20 - 00:30:31:03
Romeo from EHIRE
What have you done? What did you do? And I'm calling the police.
00:30:31:05 - 00:30:40:13
Dan Hall
If you could recommend one other queer artist for us to listen to, or even to try to get on as a guest in the future episode, who do you reckon they should be?
00:30:40:15 - 00:30:50:19
Romeo from EHIRE
Oh my God. I need that guy. Who can I think about? This is so many that pops into my mind, I know I believe you are interviewed a friend of ours, Warren.
00:30:50:21 - 00:30:53:03
Dan Hall
Why does the wonderful Warren do more?
00:30:53:03 - 00:31:05:08
Romeo from EHIRE
Oh, yeah. So I believe you interviewed him. I'm not sure, but I think he just popped into my mind. I would say there's this kid. I'm not sure if you interviewed him, but his name is Perella Star.
00:31:05:10 - 00:31:08:16
Dan Hall
Yeah, yeah, we've done for an a star. It's a great.
00:31:08:18 - 00:31:10:11
Romeo from EHIRE
Okay, so let me see and let me see.
00:31:10:11 - 00:31:12:00
Dan Hall
Hang of Flint, Michigan.
00:31:12:05 - 00:31:23:08
Romeo from EHIRE
Yes, yes. Let me see if there's another one that I could throw out on. Does it have to be like a vocal? I'm a musical artist. Or could have just been like, someone that just does art, period.
00:31:23:10 - 00:31:28:09
Dan Hall
It can be anybody you want. Anyone that helps us find our career identity.
00:31:28:11 - 00:31:48:18
Romeo from EHIRE
You know what I would say? A friend of magic, a friend of mine's. His name is Jerry Reed. He's a fashion designer. And he actually helped. He actually made our costumes, our wardrobe for Lego disco. I'm not sure if you've seen the music video, but the garment in that music video he actually made, And he's really talented, a great friend of ours.
00:31:48:20 - 00:31:51:20
Romeo from EHIRE
I would say. And if you, him, Jerry Reed.
00:31:51:22 - 00:32:07:16
Dan Hall
Now to round up, I like to ask my guests if they have a gateway song. And the gateway song is a track that people who have never heard you before and don't know anything about you will listen to, and it'll just make them fall in love with you. What would your gateway try and be?
00:32:07:16 - 00:32:35:04
Romeo from EHIRE
In my I would say it would be let go. Let go. Really? Honestly one that song has went through at least several different transition as far as in writing. But I remember when we started writing that song, how passionate and how how we feel about it now, but we was just on fire and hopeful and, that song just really means a lot of hope.
00:32:35:04 - 00:35:00:04
Romeo from EHIRE
I think when we rewrote the song, I remember just praying and just hoping that our listeners would be like, you know, hear and hear the music. So Glencoe is really all about hope and love and believing in stuff and embracing yourself.
00:35:00:06 - 00:35:10:03
Dan Hall
Romeo one half of Arie. Thank you so much for coming here. And in the key of Q and chatting with us about your life and and about your music as well.
00:35:10:04 - 00:35:28:20
Romeo from EHIRE
Yes, yes, yes. Thank you for having me. Cameo would have loved to have been here. He would have been a hog like, no, I'm kidding. He would have been. He would have been great to have here, but, he's at work right now. As you know, we have to work. But this was a lot of fun.
00:35:28:20 - 00:35:32:04
Romeo from EHIRE
Thank you for having me. And that's essentially.
00:35:32:06 - 00:35:40:06
Dan Hall
It's a pleasure. And we'll definitely get him on withdrawal. Get him on, a later episode so he can come on and tell us that everything that you said was BS.
00:35:40:08 - 00:36:54:20
Romeo from EHIRE
Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
00:36:54:22 - 00:37:25:06
Dan Hall
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00:37:25:08 - 00:37:29:09
Dan Hall
Everybody keep peddling your gay agenda and I'll see you next Tuesday.