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And David, certainly, wasn't what we expected. It wasn't what we wanted, but it is what we get. And now just a matter of cleaning up a number of things and not letting it snowball and looking ahead eventually those Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, it was. It was definitely ugly. Ugogi as as like to say, I mean, it was a case of getting handled. Bottom line, the thing that impressed me most was the Cleveland Brown's defensive

football team. I mean, Jim Schwartz had them ready. It looked like they were in the huddle listening to plays because the coverage was suffocating, I mean, blanketed. It was unbelievable. They've got great some great players, there's no question about it, Myles Garrett, Denzel Award, but all eleven guys. I mean, I'm watching it and they're moving in such harmony and

such, you know, I mean, perfect coordination. Everybody's where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there, doing what they're supposed to do. And I'm like, boy, these guys are playing really well defensively, and I mean Joe Borrow put up career low numbers for a reason, and I think, you know, obviously they weren't at the top of their game, there's no question about that offensively, but I think the Cleveland Browns defense had a hell of a lot to do with it. They you gotta give

them credit. You gotta tip their tip your cap to him, because after the game, the players were saying they didn't do anything. We didn't anticipate it. Sure looked like it. It looked like they were, you know, a little bit uh, a little bit hesitant, befuddled. But I'm not sure that it was that they were like, oh, I don't expect him to be doing that. I think it's like I didn't expect to be doing it that well, you know, it's like, man, our guys,

we just can't get any separation. I was gonna be a follow up because when you have Miles Garrett up front who can do what he can do. But the back end of Denzel awarded even delpit at safety. That the the closing of the gap, the hands in the face, the batting the ball away. They were all over Bengals wide receivers. They really were. I mean they challenged them, and I thought that was the thing that uh, you know, Schwartz really did. All Right, I'm gonna be aggressive.

We're coming after you. He blitzed quite a bit. I mean he's more of a guy that by alignment will get one on one matchups. He's not a heavy blitz guy. I thought, he blitz the higher percentage than he does. Uh, he does normally, But then he pressed. I mean he got corners right up in their faces. And and when they were playing zone, they attacked. I mean they came downhill to close on things. Everything in their mind set was like, we're gonna be the aggressor we

are the puncher. You're gonna have to counter punch us, even though defensively we you know, by trade, are supposed to counter what you do. You're gonna have to counter us, because here we come, and man, they came after it. When when you look back and you see six first downs, if you see seven punts on the first seven drives, it it doesn't even It looks like a mispread that that that can't be for this offense. Uh, this offense. The numbers that that are like staggering a bad

six first downs, two on the ground, three first downs passing. This offensive football team thirteen point three percent on third down, two out of fifteen on third down conversions. And they got their first one, the first third down conversion of the game. They got it. The second one was a third and one, and they didn't even get it. And I thought and then all of a sudden they couldn't get into third and meet even short anymore.

It was third and length thirteen point three percent one hundred and forty two yards on fifty four plays, two point six yards per play. Bottom line is the Cleveland Browns since twenty twenty are six and one against the Cincinnati Bengals. They have a losing record twenty two and twenty three against everybody else in the league. Some teams, you know, the old saying, oh they got our number. I mean, it's like this is Stefanski is six and

one against the Cincinnati Bengals. Zach Taylor is one and six against the Cleveland Browns. It's it's almost remarkable because look at the Bengals record against everybody else, yep, and they're one in six against the Cleveland Browns. The Browns find it hard, difficult to lose to the Bengals, but then they can lose to everybody else. But Paul's a weird game sometimes, man, Yeah, no question about that. Let's go inside the locker room after the game,

kick off our reaction throughout these three hours. Here's Dave with the coach, Zach Taylor after the game. Coach Obviously twenty four to three outcome wasn't what you were looking for. But coming out of this football game, the good news is seemed to come out of it pretty darn healthy. Yeah, we'll look at that, but obviously we want to come by here with a win and healthy. You know, but it's a long season, so we gotta make the corrections that we can control and be ready to go next week.

INDs Baltimore in your mind, what are some of those corrections that you feel like need to be made that you can control. There's gonna be a lot of hidden yardage in just all over the field, you know that presented us with field position and then third down clearly on offense, we were two or fifteen or three fifteen, and that's that's not gonna beat anybody. So there's gonna be a lot of things we can clean up defensively, particularly in

the first half. Two takeaways. You didn't turn the football over, you went plus two. You know, that's that's gonna win you some football games when other things are ironed out. There's no question, you know, they did. They did what we needed them to do, and we went for it on fourth down in their territory. And it gave up seven points right

after that, had the two turnovers. They really had field position working against some of the entire game and held out for us well, So you know, I thought that there was there was a lot of winning things that are defensive today. If I'm not mistaken, I think Joe put a glove on. I mean, what was it that bad out there with that rain?

I mean, if it's just drizzle in a little bit, that can make a football darn slick with that rosin on it, Yea, it was as bad as we've had since I've been here, you know, So that's no moment that that factors into the game, and we gotta be ready for as a team and start to adjust and again win on those little small rings and all three phases to help ourselves. And just didn't do good enough job of that. Saying did Cleveland do anything defensively that that surprised you at all?

Or they were very aggressive in their posture on just about everything they did. I guess, yeah, sure, and you should be. You know, they're in the first half when it when it gets wet, and it's gonna be hard to throw it and they're gonna have to lean on the run game. So they did a good job of that stuff. So now as you get ready for the Baltimore Ravens, you get them at home. And I mean, what did you tell your football team in the locker room right after

this football game? We gotta clean this thing up tomorrow, put this one behind us, and be ready to see the team that we know we are next week when we played Baltimore at home. Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, the last two years this team went to the Super Bowl, went to the SC Championship Game and lost in Cleveland both years. I mean, it's not like you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, right. Yeah, people will make a lot of it because it's Week one and

there's been a lot of focus on this game. But again, we know that it's gonna be a long season and we just gotta put them behind us to make the corrections and get ready for next week. Zach Taylor after the game with Dave and and we say this each time there is a loss, and it may sound cliche, but it's the reality. There's nothing you can

do about the one that has happened. Don't let its snowball and carry over into week two, now right, I mean it's like, all right, learn you know, don't don't totally dismiss it, look at the tape, learn from your mistakes, and then compartment compartmentalized, move on and get ready for the next opponent. You just can't let it linger. You can't let it eat away at you. But you can't act like it didn't happen, because it did. And the real kicker is and you try to compartmentalize.

But at the same time, you realize Kansas City lost at home in Week one to Detroit, and so there wasn't as much as you try to focus on the not focus on the big picture of home field, down the road and stuff like that. Man, when you you lose out of the gate, when Kansas City is lost, it's just kicking up yeah, sh yeah, I mean it it is. It is at least that maybe. But you know the thing is, though you look at it and you say,

okay, well they haven't won up there since twenty seventeen. The last two years the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and last year they went to the SC Championship Game and they lost in Cleveland both times. So I mean it's happened, and they've rebounded and recovered and all that, all that good stuff. But like you say, Lance for the clearest way to the playoffs is winning your division. And you want to get as high as seat as you

possibly can by winning your division. And when the favorite, you know, stumbled out of the gate, last thing you want to do is stumble out of the gate. And you didn't stumble, You fell in your face out of the gate. Kansas City stumbled. This team just couldn't have couldn't have played any worse. And that's the thing I think. You look at it and say, hey, we had nowhere to go but up. You can't play any worse than we played in that opener. But why the hell did

we play like that in the opener? And resolve some of those issues, no question about it. There is a lot to get to in our first of three hours tonight. We'll hear from QB one, Joe Burrow up next later out of the hour, Sam Hubbard, Tyler Boyd, DJ Raider, and a whole lot more between now and not a tonight. It's the debut the twenty twenty three version of Bengals line. We're on the first star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW welcome back in on this Monday night the

Bengals line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. I'm Lance, but canister. He is Dave Lapham. We are sorting through yesterday's twenty four three loss by the Bengals to the Browns. Will eventually look ahead to those Baltimore Ravens in week two. And Lance, I think you know one good thing that came out of the game is health. You know there Joe Burrow suffered no ill effects to that calf injury. Seemed like he got through

it okay. And I guess he'll know more today after sleeping on it and waking up and seeing if it's any additional stiffness or anything like that after the all the action, that all the physical activity that he gave that calf. But the Kettering Health Feature injury report presented by Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals and pay Course Stadium, providing the best care for the best fans. Camp sample. I know tweaked an ankle a little bit,

get dinged up, but talked to him since the game ended. And he seems to think that it's it's it's nothing significant whatsoever. I really can't remember anything else that took place during the game where it was like, oh, well, we're gonna have to follow up and check out that one. So you know, that's the interesting thing is as much as they were dominated in terms of the action, a lot of times you get beaten up too as a result of that, and they didn't. They didn't get beaten up

in that game at all. The stalk Joe Burrow tough day a career worship fourteen to thirty one. It's hard to look at those numbers and say, wow, fourteen to thirty one, passing eighty two yards, the two sacks. He was high at times, he was wide at times, went to the glove at one time, first time he's thrown for less than a one hundred yards in his career. Let's hear from Joe, and then we'll react to Here's here's performance after the game, here's QB one. Yeah, funk,

good enough, Fuck good enough. It's obviously saw you put on the gloved happy period. Yeah. Obviously, when when it's running like that, it's something that you gotta handle. We didn't handle it today? Did you seem kemp back? We indiating of this at all. Love to tell a lot of variables that go into it. What's going to your mind. It's one week obviously not up to our standard, not up to my standard, but we got sixteen more of them, so we're just gonna keep trucking.

You have sense during the week of unease entering a year were something like this, you could have made something coming at all or was it pretty No? No, we had a good week practice. Uh, you know, stuff like this happens. We've been here before. We're gonna come back stronger, gonna have a good week of practice, get better this week, come back next Sunday, hopefully get a win. We're good things that slept in the offense today and from the work team. Some of those play I don't know,

I don't know. I don't know so well. You know that's it's a it's a rep in the elements that you don't get a lot, and you live and you learn from it, and we're gonna come back better. So next time we were in a game like that, we're gonna be more well equipped to handle those elements and come out on top like a couple of times there was this communication. I don't know God on the the seenor's end, but what did you notice that all of this last where it all was

once months set. Yeah, that happens in week one. Obviously, those things happen when your quarterback doesn't perform in training camp. You know, that was obviously something that I would have liked to have done. But there's no excuses. It's obviously not not very good today, so we gotta be better as a whole on all had just a communication distracts before why it wasn't Yeah, it's just some week one, week one stuff that happens everywhere. You

know, you see it across the league. So that's something that everybody's gotta get cleaned up. We gotta get cleaned up, and we will. How much is it dolt that you went through the slow start last year and over the world, you guys overcame that you gotta wait over Yeah, nobody's nobody's panicking here, guys. It's one week one doesn't define anybody's season. Obviously, not very good out there, but anybody that watched saw that. Uh,

but we've been in this spot before. We've come back stronger and had great years, so that's what we're gonna do. Feel like, coming out of the half, you guys almost made me over, even offensively a little bit. Yeah, we had we had a nice little drive there. We were running the ball. Well, that's what you got to do in those elements, and then we had miscommunication here and there, and then we didn't come out with any points. And so that was a turning point in the

game. I think were they doing to stop t Obviously you guys weren't able to get connected today where they have different coverages on there or something little surprising, or because I a really good corners Denzel and and Emerson or two of the better corners in the league. I think, you know, Newsom is a is a great nickel too, so they got a great secondary. Obviously, we weren't good enough in me putting the ball in the right place and

in our one on one situations. We just didn't come out on top to that. Joe Burrow after the game and it it just wasn't It just wasn't his day there. It just was a struggle from start, really was, and I think, honestly, and it's not an excuse, it's a fact. Both quarterbacks referenced it. The weather was tough. We've talked about it before. When you get that drizzle rain and the ball gets wet but not drenched with the resin, it's like, man, just slick, very very

slick. Watson talked about it. Watson talked about it was tough to grip the football, throw in the football, and I remember multiple times saying he held out of the ball too long. He stormed right into the ground. Well that's because he was having trouble control and the football. So his his deal was he was trying to overcompensate and he was bouncing the ball to people. Joe's was. I mean about the third past he threw it came out

of his hand, almost went backwards. That's when he went to the glove and it's like you know what, man, I mean, the glove was on, the glove was off, the gloves back on again. So it was it was a slippery pigskin. There's no no two ways about that. And and Zach Taylor uh In in postgame communication talked about it being as tough situation controlling the football is that he's seen and had to deal with as a as a coach. So sometimes you think that's not that bad, not the

rain man. If you it's better to take those footballs and just dunk him in a bucket of water and soaked those bad boys instead of just had that little bit of moisture on there. That that that happens, and you can dry him all you want with a towel, But when it's continually drizzling like that, that's a tough dynamic, it really is to take care of that ball. A couple of TV images they showed that Joe one point of the sidelines with the elastic band the green band or near the calf being stretched by

a trainer. A couple of times they showed him sitting on the bench just kind of massaging the knee itself. How did you feel he looked from a movement standpoint in the pocket and trying to get out of the pocket. Yeah, I mean I don't think that he was pent And again the field started getting chopped up. I mean the field was because of the moisture of the field. Was not not brit in perfect condition for sure. So you know

you think about that as well. Seez if I really do start to try to uh, you know, a quick short space quick burst movement kind of thing and explosive movement and the turf gives out on me. What's how's that going to feel? What's that going to be like? So, I mean there were extenuating circumstances. I'd say he passed that test, but Watson killed him with the quarterback run game, and that wasn't part of Joe's day. More to get two. We flip the script, talk a little defense.

Sam Hubbard up next. It's Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network at seven hundred WLW. Let's keep thinking of moving along to this Monday night, three full hours of Bengals line unfolding on Lance McCalister. He's Dave Lapham Bengals Line in the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. We've talked offense and the first part of the hour with Zach and Joe Burrow. Let's flip the script. We'll get into some defense here in a second.

But always time to get into a card. Yeah, and let's talk about a defensive card. Two takeaways, no giveaways plus two and gets spanked like they did by twenty one points. That's unusual. Usually go plus two in the turnover department, take care of the ball like they did, get a couple of takeaways. It goes differently, but not to be up in Cleveland. Time for make the right call presented by the law offices of Blake masl and lou and Rumo. Put Dak's Hill in a good position. Third quarter,

second and nine from Bengals at the Bengals forty one yard line. Das Hill intercepts Watson the Bengals thirty yard line returns at twenty yards to midfield. Bengals run six players and only pick up seventeen yards have to settle for a fifty one yard field goal by Evan McPherson. He misses it. To me, big big point in the football game. Was still a one score game

at that point. That could have eaten into that one score lead and made it a four point game and not to be and after that things really starting to fall apart. Let's stay on the defensive side of things with our conversation. Sam Hubbard led all the defensive linement it snaps yesterday played sixty one of seventy four snaps, had eight tackles. Here's a day, was Sam Hubbard? Sam I thought there in the first half defensively, you guys handled things

exceptionally well. Uh yeah, you know, we had some good stops. I think we need to do better in the turnover battle. You know, given our offensive chance, there's a lot of things we could have done better down the stretch. But you know, it's a second have the most important. You know, I'm we're not happy with the performance, but there's a lot of things we can build on. There a lot we can look back and correct. You. On third down, you did a heck of a

job getting them off football field on third down. They had some explosive players obviously on first and second down, but third down was handled very very well. Yeah, I thought Loud did a good job down up some pressures. We did a good job rushing first and second. Now we got to eliminate those explosives being disciplined. But I think the defense, defensive line, defense as a whole, battled their ass off and offense, you know, they

acknowledge they can play better and they're gonna get it right. I got complete faith in our offense and uh, you know, it's week one. We're gonna get better, right, And I mean we just talked about it with Zach. You guys last year went to the SC Championship game, the year before went to the Super Bowl, and both times didn't win football games in Cleveland. So not the end of the world here. I mean, you gotta learn from it. You got to look at the tape, learn from

it, and then move on. Right. Yeah, Cleveland's a tough team to play. They always play us really well. Uh you know, it's definitely not the end of the world, but uh a lot, we can correct a lot. We gotta look at ourselves in the mirror and fix those things and come ready to play next week. Two takeaways. One thing the offense did do pretty well is uh not give the football away. You were plus two in the turnover department. That's a that's something to build off of.

Yeah, that's good, that's what we talked about doing. It's good that we got that plus two. But uh, you know, we gotta eliminate those explosive and do those things that we talked about Sam Hubbard after the game and uh Dave you alluded to in the open here. They kept them

in the game. They gave the offense a chance really until the Watson touchdown at the two point conversion was still sixteen thirteen at that point, and I kept thinking, all right, they're gonna they're gonna hang in here, hang in here, and Joe and the offense is gonna something's gonna break, something's gonna click, and they'll be good. And it just never came. Yeah. I was thinking, you know, that touchdown right before the half was

you know, was was tough pill, tough pill to swallow. But I thought, Okay, defense comes out, Cleveland gets the football one three and out. Yep, Bengals get the football, and thinking what kind of adjustments made at halftime. Here, Let's see, let's see how it unfalls. Let's see if they could take advantage in this first series and at no,

didn't didn't pan out. Cleveland was still going to dominate on the defensive side of the football like they did in the first half, and they did the entire game defense on the field for seventy four snaps in thirty six minutes yesterday. That's a lot for the first week of the season, it is. I mean, you know, the Bengals were basically out snapped eleven over eleven minute time of possession advantage. With that, I mean, that's that's that's

significant. You're talking about getting near a quarter that you had to you know, deal with and that the other team didn't. And uh, they also had a fourteen snap disadvantage in the first half alone and ended up about that way as well, So I mean they were definitely had to grind. They were minus eighteen in terms snap seventy two for the Browns, fifty four for the Bengals, and minus eleven minutes and forty seconds in possession, you know,

along those lines. It was interesting. Among many things I watched and listened to and recaps was a podcast, a videocast that Deshaun Watson did, and he said at halftime he got an IV because his legs and arms were locking up. He said he didn't spend much time with the team at halftime because he was getting an IV just because of how he was cramping up and how he felt, you know what I think. And it wasn't really that kind of a day, but he was geeked up. I think that's part

of what he said. The excitement of the opportunity finally and the suspension was over, and he was he was feeling good going into the start of the season. I mean, looking at him. I mean the way he pranced in front of the Bengals sideline up to the fifty yard line during the course step football game. This game was unbelievably important to him, and I think sometimes when you do that, you have that kind of energy, enthusiasm,

emotion that can take it out as well. And then on top of it, you're performing physically and you don't keep up with the water intake because you don't factor in and all my emotions. I mean, it's just it's working my body here. So that that's a that's very interesting that. But the touchdown that he had, the touchdown run, they come out and they're in a like like like like a diamond configuration of four wide receivers to the right.

He notices that they're deficient on that, you know, on the Bengals defensive right side, his left side. I don't know if he audible to it or he just decided, you know what, let's let the play unfold. If I see lane, I'm going to take advantage of it and run. Whichever way it happened, whichever way it turned out, he made an unbelievable decision. That thirteen yard and touchdown run was big and there. Let's

let's understand that it was it was a big game for both teams. But there's a lot on the line in Cleveland with Deshaan Watson Kevin Stefanski to begin this season, and the expectations with Watson had they lost yesterday, that the feeling in Cleveland is, well, is it ever gonna happen with Deshaud Watson right right? There's no doubt. I mean there was some pressure there. I will say that the Cincinnati Bengals are They're given Kevin Stevanski job security.

If not for the six and one record against the Bengals, he'd have a losing record. He had that great season in twenty twenty took him to the playoffs. It's the only time they've been in the playoffs in quite a while. They haven't been since. But you know that the fact that six and one against the team that has won the division title the last two years is pretty amazing. I really is. Take a time out of continue well,

it's head back over to the offensive side of things. We'll talk with Tyler, Boyd and Moore as we make our way through our number one Tonight roll until nine three hours of breaking it all down, We'll look ahead of those Ravens as well. It's Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. We are moving right along on this Monday night. The show is Bengals Line. We do it on the first Star

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stations. Activities begin three hours prior to kickoff. Tyler Boyd was targeted three times yesterday, came away with two catches for a total of ten yards. Here's uh Tyler Boyd with Dan Horde and media in the locker room after the game. Practice this game done, but does that make enough plays? I

think that's on you guys. You guys are that's for sure, because I came nobody to do with yourself and We pride ourselves on making seventy percent of the plays targets that we got, and we didn't and that's why everybody is surprised and everybody pride is in a way because we didn't fulfill our criteria. But we'll be back next week on top of a matchups with that secondary. Obviously, you guys have arguably the best way of supers in the NFL,

but they have a good secondary as well. Yeah they're good. They were touched up well, Uh, running good scheme, but we knew again, we knew exactly what they were gonna do. They just want more, more, more of the battles, and we did can put us in a bad position and uh couldn't get ourselves out the whole. You play years, you're gonna have some good days and bad days. But there's it almost stunning how

flat you were in this game. Absolutely, you know, I think that's probably the most proful thing, you know, because I think overall we played great difference play the heck of a game offense. Uh, we started getting things going, but we never got consistent at moving the ball. And Uh, you could say whatever you want about the weather, but uh Day was out there making plays. The Browns makee plays enough players to win, so just so we didn't make enough play. That's what they're gonna come down soon.

I think there were maybe eight or nine straight third down tries that you didn't convert? Was that a specially glaring Yeah? That that that hurt us a lot, because we prod ourselves on standing out there and converting, you know, in third down, especially because we know that's why and coverage is gonna come, and that's when the one on one opportunities come, and that's when we make the big plays that you usually see. And you didn't today because uh, they got the best of us. But uh, they're a

great team. But uh, I mean we just gotta win more mess ups. I think from the storylines that might come out of this will be preseason Joe not being able to play, obviously with the captain injury, how think of a factor? Do you think reps were with him? Obviously you've had plenty of reps with them overall, but just the past couple of weeks I practiced with him. Yeah, I mean end of the day. I mean, it's football. I mean just because you're down on two weeks or whatever

it is, it doesn't change. You're gonna see the same coverage, the scene, the same defense, everything. I mean, Joe has been padding up his game even though he's not practicing, he's still getting mental rep. He's still doing a little bit of walking through with us, taking us separately and doing stuff with us to make sure he still got his mechanics down pack. And I don't think that really played a factor. They just I'll played

us and they made more plays. Another thing people are going to continue to wonder is if the offense needs to play at a little bit in the preseason. And is it fair to to ask that question at this point? Uh Again, I mean you can say what you want, but uh, I think the level of talent and that we have on the offensive side that I don't really think that too much because if we went out there and we would have won twenty four three, that wouldn't have been uh no argument, you

know, but we definitely gotta play better. I don't think the preseason got anything to do with it, cause, uh, we all did our jobs. We just gotta do it, uh at the level that we always we expect ourselves to play out what he be being out on the field with Joe for the first time. Is there something to that, I was, shoot me for first time the first time, you know, in a game situation, having chosen having miss six points, right, you know cap strength?

I mean again, I mean that's Joe. I mean, he always gonna find a way, He get mental reps, he going do what you gotta do. They always, uh stay on top of his game. I mean it, this been going on for three years straight. Well, we had a great uh tough losses or we in a in a in a in a h midst of a game and don't go away. But I don't think the

preseason or anything like that contribute Tyler. After the game two catches ten yards and boy, you look down that wide receiver sheet and I don't think anybody would be expected to see T Higgins targeted eight times and I'd have a single catch. Yeah, that's that's crazy. I mean, that's only the second time that T Higgins is playing the game and not caught a food a game in his rookie season. And it was like it wasn't like he didn't get

opportunity. Targeted eight times is significant, But again, good defense in some cases, you know, contestant catches his forte. They were battling pretty well there, and I'm sure Joe Barrow will be the first to tell everybody that the pinpoint accuracy that you've come to expect it wasn't there, wasn't terrible. I mean, he wasn't like, you know, like, what the hell what do you throw? Who you throwing it to? What you were you throwing it? But as I was watching the Bengals offense, I'm like,

man, it's just a tickoff. It's a tick off here and just a tick off there, and pretty soon you're ticked off. I mean, it's like it's getting bad out there because it's just just they could never find rhythm, timing, tempo. It just oh man, it was like, you know, five and a half cylinders and not six. You know, it just it just wasn't quite there. The engine just was not turning over. Let's head down the stretch in our first hour, back to the defensive side.

DJ Reader thoughts on the game from him as we continue, It's Bengals Line and the first Star Logistics, Bengals Radio Network and seven hund WLW heading down the stretch, about to put the wraps on our first of three hours tonight in Bengals Line of the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network Lands but Calister Dave Lappham, Hey, Bengals fans, make sure to catch me and Dan Hoard every Wednesday this season for Bengals Game Plan presented by Bud Light on the

air from six to eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. And this Wednesday, we're at the Holy Grail, so hopefully we'll have a Bengal player of some significance to join us and give you thoughts on the bang on the loss to the Cleveland Browns and the rebound week against the Baltimore Ravens. DJ Reader played fifty one snaps yesterday anchoring that defensive line. He talked with Dan Horde after the game. We're in the locker room, a DJ Reader, I'm sure

that was the total opposite of what everybody in this room expected. You just came out and really couldn't seem to get much going, particularly on the offensive end. Yeah, me come out. We will flat. This is the team in general. But that's tough. Yeah, I get actually drawn board. I know it's such a cliche saying I hate saying it, honestly, but we got good and do a thing. A lot of guys and our team on our team that good guys play a lot of the balls. I

mean, we're not tripping up who we are. We just gotta go out there and do it. Guys can't start flat. Is it fair to wonder if the Bengals need to change the preseason approach and play some guys more and you think that's a factor at all. I don't know if that's it. I think just more so like you know, if you don't, I know you need the reps. I know people talk about that with the Q. Yeah, you wake up on Sunday, it's snow, the grass, everybodys

ready to go. I don't think that's the thing. But you know what I'm saying, Oh you blank on this language. Nobody has like a what happened? We came up with that, We got beat and he just how it goes sometimes, man, And unfortunately that's how I was wrong in our opening the last couple of years. So we just we gotta really get on it. The touchdown late in the first half, did you feel like that was a I have a big momentum swing for Cleveland? It was three nothing

at the time. Nah, because we came out, I gotta stop. So I don't I wouldn't call it that, you know what I'm saying, like, Oh, it just in the world when we came out, I gotta stop three out the next So I didn't think it was a big momentum ship. I think, well, we just didn't do it was great and they gotta put in some touch spots and then didn't find a way out of me, you know, So that's just really what happened. I don't I

don't think that that kind of that moment was the moment. You didn't play in the game here last year, but the Bengals obviously, I've had a lot of trouble in this building. Is it frustrating to come here and just play poorly again? Things? Yeah, that's really frustrating. You never want to go anywhere and play poorly. You took me like we're gonna stay riding. I think unfortunately in our division would get this him twice, so we gotta come to us next. You can't really gotta scrap this game, you

know. I can't really think about it anymore. We know this is a great offense. It's gonna put up a lot of points. It's it almost hard to believe when they struggle as badly as they did today, you know, but they're used to and you know, we just go out there and encourage them to get back to that and they'll get back to it. It's not it's definitely different when they don't know. But get got people out of

the days. Man, It happens, and you can't expect people to be perfect every day forcing them like this league, they expects you to be perfect over this Sunday and I'm just working this Sunday. So guys gotta get back to the drawing board. I think a lot of guys pride. Pride's hurt, so I think it would be a good thing for us. You know, you've been able to battle out of this bank against a while the last two years, so we're going to get it. DJ Rader after the game.

That puts our first of three in the books. But hang tight, there is much more to get to. In hours two and three, we'll talk with Ted Carriss, Jamar Chase talk a little special teams, talk about Joe Burrows contract. Eventually in that third hour do from Baltimore. Ravens breakdown as well. Maybe take a look at the AFC North. One week in the books, one hour of Bengals Line in the books, Hang tight, much more to get to Dave Lapham, Lance pacalister, thanks for hanging out

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end our number two with Bengals Line. We're on the first Guard Logistics Bengal is a radio network and seven hundred w l W on Lance for countless or he would be Dave Lapham, Yes, sir, and right now it's hard to think pleasure catch up with a gentleman who's always been very kind to us with this time talk football. Could talk football all day long with a guy like this because he is a football savant that's defensive coordinator lou and a Rumo

coach. We certainly do appreciate your carbon time for us my pleasure. So defensively in the first half, you had to be pleased with how your your group was playing. I mean that it was yards were tough to come by. Yeah, for sure, I think, uh, you know, yesterday, it's a team game and and uh you know, we got to come away with a win regardless of what the situation is. But you know, we did some really good things in the game. You know, they were

only four or fourteen on third down. The quarterback had a sixty seven QBR. We had two takeaways, we had three sacks. You know, we had to fumble the interception as I mentioned. And uh so, you know, they had too many yards rushing. They also had forty attempts. And you know the thing that we did a really good job on the front side of the runs. And you know they were out of the forty runs, twenty five of the forty they gained four yards or less and ten of those

twenty five there was zero or less. So we did a really good job

in the majority of them. It was the twelve or fifteen some odd ones that we had dead to rights on the front side and they cut it back and you know, we had got each guy had kind of put their hand in it where we got cut out and you know they had a third down run for a first down around midfield and then they had the quarterback draw more of a trap type play down, uh, just before the half there that we you know, we were in his aero blitz and caught us in a

good one there for them. But you know we we uh we played hard. You know, we we swarmed in the ball like we wanted to. Obviously, the number of rushing yards is too much. We can clean those things up going forward. Cheeto gave you a forty three snaps yesterday. How nice was it to have him back. He's one of our leaders and uh, he really steadies, steadies things, and you know it's it's I'm glad he did what he did and his snap channel just keep going up the better

he feels. He mentioned Chubb on that cutback. That dude, I mean he will bend it and really bend it. I mean he from a vision standpoint and just an ability to make that type of determination and he's about as good in the in the league. Yeah, he's a great runner. We all know that. And you know there's there's some where he's very very patient. We we play him in a certain way, and there was a couple of things where he took it really way out the back door. Uh,

it's surprised. It didn't surprise, but caught us off guard with some caught the corners off guards some where they need to be right, you know, tight to the line of scrimmage. And uh, that's what a guy like that does to you, challenges you, and you know, so it will be better your your rookie. DJ Turner gave you a good chunk of snaps. Would you think of him? How did he hold up in his NFL debut? Nice tackle are up? They're down? Contested, Well up,

they're down. You know, we had a new new grouping out there, as everybody saw where you know, Mike Hilton was doing a different role and uh you know, uh put Cheeto, Cam and DJ on the three wideouts and you know Mike Roman around doing different things. So we'll keep building on that. And uh, I was I was pleased with Dj Pratt eleven tackles, seven unassisted quarterback sack, two tackles, for loss forced to fumble.

I mean, the dude, he's a he's a playmaker. And then Nick Scott uh got involved with you know, eleven tackles as well, and uh, Dax Hill, your other safety six tackles, two tackles for loss an interception. I mean, you're pratt. Okay, he's he's been around, done that for you. But you're two safety stepped up, didn't they? It did? Okay. Jermaine and Logan were fantastic. You know, they're they right, They get everybody lined up, They're in the right place all

the time. They you know, we're really really they are. Among other things, they are a great screen team. The Browns are they they kill guys, killed teams with screens. And you know, we did a really really really good job on their screens. And it was because of those two d the d line being aware of it. You know, they had hurt us with the half back draw in the past and we were able to shut that down. So, uh, you know, and and you mentioned the

two safeties. I was, uh, you know, pleased to see what Dax how how he did he still got a ways to go, And the same with Nick the at sack take us through that because if I remember correctly, Pratt and Logan came together that. Yeah, it was a little this week we had for the first game and kind of get him off schedule, and we caught the right protection and the thing that people don't see Logan and they slid the our front the right way to get the matchup we wanted on

the back just before the snap and was able to free themselves. So worked out well. So your guy like Watson where the quarterback run game, I mean improvisational or some somebody design. They ran a quarterback counter, you know with him for example. I mean, how how much more difficult does it make it when you get a guy like Chubb and can be complimented like a

guy like Watson until mobile. Well, it's just once the quarterback becomes a runner, you're they can out number of blocking guys and you need to take the post safety out of the post or the quarter sit, you know, whatever you're doing. So it forces us to do different things and you know we'll certainly get We're very aware of that. That's what's coming this week against the Ravens. So you know it's not something we're not used to. It's

just when it's you're not one hundred percent sure when it's coming. You know, we gotta be on our We gotta be on our on our game to to know when and where and how we're supposed to stop it and fit it. Zach Carter seemed relentless and disruptive at times. Do you like the track he's on the growthy showing. I was very pleased with Zach. Essay, he played like a a grown man out there. As the guys like to say, Uh you know, he was stout at the point of attack,

and uh you know he he was. I was very pleased you your defensive football team. Unfortunately, as the way the game unfolded, you're on You're on the field a lot. I mean, seventy two snaps, forty rushes Like you said, I mean, when you're when you're you're winding, you're grinding it and stopping that run, and you know you're gonna run around and chase a guy like Watson when you're rushing the quarterback. I mean, that's

that's definitely a challenge. They have an eleven minute and forty time and possession advantage. I mean looked like, honestly, though, you guys are in good shape. I mean from a cardio vasco and football shape standpoint, guys look pretty damn good. Yeah. Again, I think Joey and those guys do a great job getting our guys ready to go. So it's no surprise. It was nice. You know. The rain wasn't great, but it was it was cool, So if it was a ninety degree day, it

might have been a different story. But it was cooler up there and we were able to handle it pretty good. Have you been encouraged throughout camp into yesterday? You allude to the secondary and that the safety's Dacks and Nick their communication they're same page mindset. Do you like how that's developed? Yeah? Yeah, you know, we still got a waste to go. There was a couple of things yesterday we could have been better on. But yeah,

we're definitely trending in the right direction for sure. Do you feel like facing a quarterback like Watson is a precursor? I guess as such to what you know. Nobody does everything the same. It's not like, okay, well we're gonna see this exact same look by personnel, grouping, formation, whatever, and and everybody has different skill sets and tape talents and and all that, but having experienced a quarterback like Watson right before, you play a quarterback

like Jackson. Anything to that. Well, I mean they're great athletes and uh you know, similar but different at the same time. Lamar is still special, special athlete with the ball in his hand and so it was Deshaun to his in his own way. So but it helps, you know, it helps, But they are they are different too, right, They've they've got a different offensive coordinator this year and Todd Monkin. Do you do expect

them to be much different from from an offensive standpoint? Yeah, just looking at the first game, you can see his certainly his uh imprints on it. But they still have the raven offense too, you know where they're gonna try to bludgeon you in the running game, you know, and the big bodies getting around on pullers and schemes and this that and the other thing. So, uh, they they they certainly have have what Todd likes to do, but there's some elements of what they've always done too. You know.

It's interesting, Like when you were just talking about their run game. Dobbin's unfortunately he's got the achilles injury, so he's he's been They've got plenty of others they do backs in that stable. But you mentioned offensive linemen out there in space trying to bludgeon your getting just like Cleveland. I mean, they're pulling those guards and doing that. There's there's some again it's not identical, but there are some similarities to carry over from one week to the next.

Maybe AFC North right, Yeah, I mean, you know, we know what we're dealing with, and we got tough guys. You watch Cam, uh, Cam Teller, brit He took on Wyatt Teller and and Cam ended up on top. You know, pretty impressive. I was proud of him. He's one tough SLB. So he played a really good game yesterday. Huh. That's that's the thing. I mean, when you get a chance to really study, h take take a look at what guys did, the effort that they gave you and everything. I mean they were. There are

a lot of winning performance stuff. People say, oh, come on, man, you know, look look at the score. What are you talking about. There's twenty two guys out there, and you know a lot of guys are winning their battles and not everybody does. And that's sometimes the difference

in a successful or not successful play. But I mean, I've been in situations where you know, we lost by like thirty points and you look at a guy, it's like, damn, this dude, he played the best game of his career and unfortunately he was part of a thirty point loss. But it certainly didn't reflect on his individual performance. That happens a lot, didn't it. Yeah, I think so. You know, just the good news is the things we a little bit short on are easily fixed, ye

you know, and uh, you know, the guys will be. They're already back in there lifting and running and hungry to get onto next week. So that's what's important. I always appreciate you making time for us. Best to luck this week, my pleasure. Guys, get a man coach. Thanks lou An A Robo. Take time out to continue Bengals Line First Star Logistics Bengals or Radio Network. It's seven hundred w l W. Hey we

continue on to this Monday night. We're talking Bengals looking back on the Ravens game, or looking ahead of looking back on the Brown's game, look at ahead of those Baltimore Ravens. Later on in our third hour tonight, it's Bengals line in the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. I'm Lance but catalyster hanging out with Dave Lapham. Yes, sir, Lance, did your high

school win a big football game this past weekend? You can nominate your coach for the Bengals Coach of the Week Award presented by pay Corps by visiting Bengals dot com slash Coach of the Week stock offensive Line. It starts up front, we go inside the locker room. Here's Dave with Ted Carriss. Like I said earlier, I have no adjective to describe the lack of production, lack of execution, and we needed we need to be way better moving forward.

Ted, one thing that did offensive News take care of the football, didn't turn the football over. You know that's one one building block, but not a whole lot. Obviously, Well what do you You just study the tape, learn and move on. Right, That's what we're gonna do, Dave. Yep, We're got Baltimore coming to town, so we need a big week and I need to get a victory. What was I mean? Obviously Cleveland was very very aggressive with everything they did. I mean they were

bringing a lot of pressure they were playing aggressive coverage? Was the rain of factor there? Did they think? You know what, you know it's going to be hard to throw the ball and throw the ball deep. Let's just play it this way. I mean rain, rain can be a factor. I think we just need to execute. You know, our defense is execute and they gave us a lot of chances to win the game. We didn't

do it. What do you think? And I know you just get off off the field and a battle where a lot of things in your head right now and you're trying to you can't remember snap after snap, But what do you what do you think is something to build off as an offensive football team? Learn from this? No know how much we have to execute to be successful. And you know the margin barry is very slim in this league. So we go back, get and get a new play into the Ravens and

be ready to go and pay him. And finally, uh, you know, you guys went to the Super Bowl two years ago, went to the SC Championship game last year and lost in Cleveland both times. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, right, I mean, it's one football game. Yeah, we're not gonna you know, no, one's no one's freaking out, but you know, we have to take a look at ourselves and

get better, get ready to go for Baltimore. Ted Carriss after the game, Dave, what did you think overall of the performance of the offensive line. Yeah, I think there was some you know, communication things to iron out. Ted made reference to that, U there was some communication issues between It sounded like from a recognition h standpoint, making sure a quarterback and lyman

and everybody's on the same page. I remember one time Joe Burrow put his hands on his hips and looked at one of them like, you know, really, I mean, did did were you supposed to do? That? Was that what was supposed to take place? Somebody missed a call or whatever. And that happens particularly up there with the Dog Mountain, it being so

loud and everything. So with with the fact that they hadn't played together as a group, the five of them taking many snaps or really any for the most part all through preseason, with their quarterback just a very limited number. For sure, all of that plays into it, and I think they're gonna be light years better in that regard in this football game against the Baltimore Ravens. And honestly, when when that's taken place, when the communication isn't firm

and solid and cohesive, now you're a little bit unsure. You're a little bit tender. Worst thing in the world, particular one of defense is playing as well as Cleveland w give give a fan who's never been an offensive linement some insight when it comes to communication. What might be what's something that might be communicated that needs to be communicated depth at that time. Okay, so

a lot of times, UH, slide protection. It'll if if the center makes a call, all that dictates the entire line is supposed to slide, and it doesn't get communicated all the way out to the tackle, and the

center and guard slide and the tackle doesn't. Now you're double team in the defenseman and the blitzer comes because the center recognized something, and it's like this is the tendency that they have, and all of a sudden you have a free runner and you have two guys blocking one, and those those are the kind of things that can happen and uh, and you want to try to avoid at all costs. What have you what's been your your your thoughts on

throughout camp? The transition that Joan is making to right tackle, he seems to have come around to accepting it and embracing it, understanding the versatility he can show and the opportunities that may come after this season. How do you think he's looked in that transition. Yeah, I think I think he's playing

pretty well. I really do. Again, though there's I can I can tell you that I'm old school in this regard, but there's nothing, no substitute for time on task in a live game situation, having all five linemen working together as one and trying to get uh to the point where you are one. Like I always talk about making the fist. You know, it's five components, four fingers and wrap four fingers, curl the thumb, boom

in voluntary reaction. Strong. Now in the game, you know, as a offensive line, if you've got four or three, you don't have a very strong fis. You don't have a fist, you don't have that power. So that's that's that's time on task that comes with familiarity doing it over and over again. And you can do it in practice and go through the mental reps and practice all you want, but in a in a game environment,

in a game condition, It's just it's a little bit different. And until you go through that and experience that and get confidence that you know, everybody is going to be doing exactly what they're supposed to do when they're supposed to do it. And and like my feeling was in verbalized it, they're gonna be much better at the end of September than they were yesterday as an offensive line. And it's going to continue to ramp up. And was it was it like, oh my god, was it you know, horrendous?

No, but there was definitely some things to clean up and to improve on. There's no question. Hang tight, we're still getting revveed up. We got a lot more to get to before we're done. At nine o'clock tonight, up next to you here from Jamar Chase, Cam Taylor Britt Later on of the Hour and so much more, Dave Blapham, Lance Pcalister, Thanks for being with us tonight. It's Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey welcome back in on this

Monday night to Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. Recapping the Brown's game yesterday. We'll get into those Ravens coming up in our third hour tonight. I'm Lance Pcalister. He is Dave Lapham and Lance to Cincinnati. Bengals upgraded the Wi Fi Paid Course Stadium with the help of their new internet provider, alt of Fiber future Proof Fiber, capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed to take your home, business, and community to a new level.

Elevate your connection with Alti Fiber. Jamar Chase targeted nine times yesterday by Joe Burrow, connected five times for thirty nine yards a long of twelve. Here's Jamar after the game. I mean, we didn't get a lot of stuff going away, you know what I'm saying. We had a couple of job passes on boats and which was again arrest a couple of times, I'm Sam, and we just didn't execute when we had it. Looks, what

about their defense? They seemed to be real aggressive and what they were doing in terms of pressure and in coverage with was the weather a factor there? They decided to get more aggressive? Do you think not? Really? We already knew the game plan for the eight defense. What we had we already was expecting it. They did exactly what we was expecting. Like I said, we just didn't take advantage of the opportunity that they gave us. What do you think? Can you get your finger on why you guys just more

your self today? I don't know if he I don't know. I don't even not answer that brou Honestly, I'm trying to figure out kind of how to get the game. Really just man teach, trying to see what looks we could get. They played off, They trying to run out. You know what I'm saying. We she's trying to tell him, we'll be seeing you know what I'm saying. He got rushed a couple of times. We can get the ball to us, so settle for up a bad pass on his pucause of the rush, or I throw it in the dirt. How

did you howdy? What how come it looked good to me? How't me? I didn't see nothing? You've seen something that I ain't see nothing. You're gonna be something. Team last year started open too, and you guys still made the XC Championship. We know slow starts are going through derail the season, but just stop frustrating. Is it to had to build up, start the season, come here and not play. It's frustrating because I called the ass elves and we just lost it some ELFs. So I'm pissed on

my party. I'm not I'm pissed on all on that. And like I said, man, we got missed out. But tunis we didn't capitalize me and we lost. So that's how we lost. With that said, you went to the Super Bowl two years ago, go to the SC Championship last year and didn't be Cleveland up here both both years. You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater right this one game. Yeah, I'm not doing all that. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to my party and

dude, I can do for the team. So I'm pissed that other stuff. John's every point about it. I guess with all else stuff and all that, what did you make up all that? He just wanted to have some attention, So he just know what I'm saying, prepared on you for the for the blueback when it might come with the comments you mad result of

this game, We're blowback. Man. If you say if they got a problem with me saying something I'm saying right now, he's soft if they soft with me saying else and they's softening Jamar after the game and firing one final shot at the perhaps at the end. If they're soft or if they don't like it, then they're soft. Yeah, they're soft. That's all there is to it. It is. It is amazing to look in that pass a pass receiving category over to LG. Long and see twelve yards being the

longest, and there was a pat would it was an eighteen yard. But man, you think of that and think of how good they've been at the in past years. And I know Joe may have led in thirty yard completions are more last season. Just twelve yesterday. That's staggering. It is it is. I looked up the longest plays and the miscellaneous stats portion of the of the statueets and the Bengals had one play of twenty two yards of twenty

yards more twenty two yard run Joe Joe Mixon. The next longest play is that twelve yard pass from from from Borrow and Joe Mixon had a twelve yard run the very next snap. He went twenty two and twelve year yes, back to back runs of thirty four yards and then nothing happened. I mean, they just squad douche. But they only had five plays of ten yards more in the whole game. They had a twenty two yard run from Joe Mixon, They had the twelve yard completion from Borrow, another twelve yard run

by Joe Mixon, and two more ten yard completions from Joe Burrow. And that is it. Five plays of ten yards and more. I mean, come on, man, Cleveland. They had a thirty three yard completion, two more, They had a twenty yard completion to Cooper, and then Moore had a rush for nineteen yards. And they had a couple of seventeen yard plays, a fifteen yard played, multiple thirteen yard plays. They had, you know, ten plays of thirteen yards of war, and they didn't dominate.

The Bengals did a good job of limiting explosive plays by the Cleveland Browns as well. But five plays of ten yards and more in an entire football game for this offense, for this football team, one play of twenty yards and more. And I mean, your longest reception is courtesy of past interference. That's crazy. Dave. I looked at looking at the next gen breakdown

of where Joe threw the ball. There weren't a lot of throws over the middle of the certainly down the field, and there weren't a lot of throws over the middle of the field. Was that Is that something that the Browns took away, something the Bengals didn't try to do. What do you make of that? That's a good question. It might be a combination of both. You know, Joe might felt might have felt more comfortable, I mean, or they they decided, you know what, with the safeties that they

got. But Thornhill, he didn't even play, and when he wasn't when he was an active there was a lot of concern up in the press box from the media anyway, because he had had a heck of a camp and they were a man down back there, but still played exceptionally well. I mean, I just remember saying in the in the second half, how about if we just throw the ball deep just to loosen them up a couple of

just throw it deep or a time or two. And the first time they threw a deep got the pass interference penalty, and then threw another one like right away. It was the first drive in the second half. They forced Cleveland to go three. Now Bengals get the football and they go down the field a couple of times. Because it had been screens, perimeter passes, it had been dink and dunk to the it was like you're playing football in a closet, like we talked about before, and with the weapons and everything

you got here, I mean, let's challenge him a little bit. I mean's let's uh, let's let's air it out. So hopefully that that occurs and it's gonna be That's something I think you gotta do. You have to challenge the entire football field. You can't let the Baltimore Ravens lock in and play top down and not have to worry about things behind them much more to get to in this hour earlier than they are. You heard lou Anna Rumo call Cam Taylor brit One tough s ob. We'll hear from that one.

Tough s ob, Cam Taylor Britt. As we continue in this hour, our second of three tonight, it's Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred w l W. Let's get back at under this Monday night. We're making our way through three hours of Bengals conversation from yesterday and I'll look ahead to this Sunday. All of that to be covered between now nine o'clock. It's Bengals Line, it's the name of the

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Let's go inside the locker room. Here's Kim Taylor Britt with Dan horror Cam. It's a team game, but I thought the defense played reasonably well. What do you think? I felt like we did. But most definitely I feel like, also the office can't get the bond ins on. I feel like we need to step on and trying to get into insus. You know what doesn't get an interceptions listen, trying to take a beat man. We get us fumbles. Let's trying to think about let's you know, Chinese

and narrative of a game. You know, on defense, you know, in the positive way. I did have a couple of takeaways, Dax had his first career pick. Yeah, I guess those were the biggest positives. So the defensive prospected out that. Yeah, most definitely. I thought, you know, tiptoe down the sideline, told him like, go get in the end zone. Man. But and I I see he'll go get it next time there. I said, I'm a most shocking when Joe and the

offense struggle to the extent that they did today. Work tell you to say, so, you know, just because we see it every day. You know, it doesn't matter, uh, the the situation as far as like the weather or anything, but we see it every day, you know, and not to see that, you know, it is what it is. You know, we know he'll come back next week because you know, play like this. And when did you get the sense that this just wasn't going you know, it wasn't going to be the Bengal stay. I say,

four quarter, I've finish game. So I didn't never think that throughout the whole game until two minutes left, three minutes left. You know, when I've seen those you know, honestly out of reach, then uh, we couldn't have any more possessions or anything. So yeah, yeah, it started owing two last year and you got a chance to avoid that next week and this next week's game. Take on a little added juice. It's always got a juice mass and it's the vid the game. We felt like that this

game as well. And then he just got the better hand of us Kam Taylor Britt after the game. And you know, when we were sitting here with Lou, I like it. There's sometimes he hit on a play or a player and Lou's eyes will spark a little bit and you could see a little spark in his eye when he talked about Cam Taylor Britton and for those who missed it earlier, he said he's one tough s ob. He went, he'll go nose to nose with anybody on the field. And Wyatt Taylor,

this beast. Wyatt Taylor is a full grown man. Uh And and that's exactly what Cam Taylor Brit was called by his defensive coordinator. And because he ended up on top of Wyatt Taylor on a big collision. So that that that's getting it done. Why Taylor probe Wyatt Taylor a pro bowler. They've got Joel Bettonio a pro bowler. That tantem of guards is as good as they're gonna facing the National Football League. Pulling and getting into the perimeter

and working against the smaller edge people. The Cleveland Browns look at that as a as a big advantage as do the ball to more ravens. So they're gonna have to step up on the on the back end again. When they're the edge guy and they got run support on the edge, they have to battle the big beasts and you know, at least stalemate that block. If you're gonna give yourself up one for one, you don't want to get dominated

one for one and make it tough on your teammates. At least, you know, make that wash and then your teammates can pursue inside out and make plays for you. Well, you see what Cam did yesterday, Dex He'll gets his first interception and you see those young guys and the the the growth potential and the way they're the arrow is putting on their graph. It gets you awfully excited. Asn't it. It does. I mean I think that uh, you know, Nick Scott, I thought played well back there.

I thought the communication between the safeties looked pretty good. So he's the old guy back there going into his fifth year. Everybody else is you know, a kid, uh, second year player but missed most of the first year due to the injury. You know, you got rookies. You got second year player Cambridge who started about half the season and really came on strong. And now year two is gonna be a big I think jump for him, a big growth year. And he's already shown that. So they're they're they're

young, but they're talented, there's no question. Boy. And you mentioned Nick and you hit him on your on your show on Friday, and he sounds like, well he's only five years and he sounds like a wily veteran. He's a guy who who gets it and just the perspective he offers as somebody who sees the big picture of all of it. Yeah. And the super Bowl winner yep, you know, and and that that's cred with young players. Oh man, the guys, he his team, they went to

the Super Bowl and they wont it. Wow, this guy's world champion. I'm gonna listen to this guy, and he's a good guy to listen to because he gets it. He gets it on every level. I mean, he knows how to prepare. He's he's very football intelligent. He's very intelligent overall. Uh, he's a good leader, a good communicator. He's a good guy. Emulate, there's no question about it. We've hit on offense, We've hit on defense. What do you say we spend a little bit

of time on special teams. When we continue and wrap up our second of three hours, Thanks for being here with us tonight, hang out. We've got much more to unfold. It's Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back. We're heading down the stretch about to put the wraps on two hour or two of three tonight. The show is Bengals Line. We're on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio

Network. Lance Pcalister along with Dave Lapham. Thanks for hanging out with us tonight. And we've always got time for a car absolutely lands shop online at mike'scarwash dot com or on site at any of Mike's car Wash thirty six locations. Good for you, Mike, so getting it done open daily from seven am to nine pm. Stark Special Teams. Brad Robbins, the new guy, the new punter. Certainly his legs probably saw today punny ten times and

it was a I thought it was a mixed bag. There were some moments he said, oh yeah, and then there was some moments he oh no, right, yeah, I agree. You know, on the one, Darren Simmons wanted him to pin him, you know, back inside the twenty, hopefully inside the ten yard line, and uh Dan made mention of it during the game at mission. He had no touch about that, and then he got one in his first NFL game on that particular punt. Ten punts.

Though you'd hope a rookie wouldn't punt ten times in the first month of his career. He's putting ten times in one game. And I agree. I thought as I saw him boarding the plane, I thought he had a limp. That right leg looked a little longer than the left. Had hitch him to get along and he stretched that bad boy out. He also had a fifty four yard or did have a The one was almost it was a low snap and almost got blocked, but he got it off at time.

Yeah, and that that one was that one was close, and uh, you know, there was one that kind of sliced off the outside of his foot a little bit, but you know, it's it's gonna happen. He he was definitely the thing I like about him. He comes to the sideline and Darren either I'm not sure if he's in some cases giving him compliments. I know in a lot of cases he's dressing him down and Robbins will just fold his hands behind his back and stand and look and take it all in.

And then when Darren's done, he'll nod, turn around and walk away. And Darren walks away and it's over, you know. And he bottom line is my point, he takes coaching and he takes it well. I mean he doesn't. He's not offended by his take it personally, you know, darn he knows Darren Simmons is trying to make him as good a player as he possibly can be, huh. And he handles that part of it

well. Rookie Charlie Jones on punt returns backtrack and I don't know if if he lost track of where he was, but fielded one and around the six, and then the one that really jumped out to me, he tried to run horizontally and he almost felt like he reached one of those moments where he said, oh crap, this isn't the big ten anymore, and I'm not tried to outrace like Iowa Nebraska from sideline to sideline to get the corner. And he never got the quarner. Right, Yeah, that's that's an AHA

moment. These guys, there's a bunch of them. Yeah, run not just a guy. Everybody runs in the National Football League. And they're pretty big, pretty good sized guys. Yeah, it's uh, it's a cut above. There's no doubt Evan. Evan missed the fifty one year oder could have cut it to think that would have cut it to ten six, and they never did. That was a chance to get some points after a turnover,

and they never did get points after the two turnovers. Yeah, on each could have cut it to ten six there, but but missed the fifty one yarder and and really at that point, I thought, Okay, returned the ball to the fifty you got you got half a field and negotiate for a touch on let's let's get after it here. Let's get right back in this football game. Tie this thing up. It's the second half, you know, shake off that first half, Blues make adjustments and uh, you

know, six plays for seventeen year yards. That's about what they were. They were under three yards of play for the game. That's about what they were doing on a drive by drive basis. I mean, that's just incredible. One hundred and forty two yards and fifty four snaps two point six yards, just a little over two and a half yards of play. Man with with all the all the players that you look out there in the huddle and think, when's it gonna happen? When they're gonna they're gonna get it together

and there's gonna be an explosive drive here somewhere. Yes, it's gonna be an explosive play somewhere, and it never did come to fruition. That is two in the books. How about our number three. We'll circle back around talk a little bit about the much talked about approach to camp and whether the starters had enough time to get ramped up. We'll get into Joe signing the big deal over the weekend officially preview those Baltimore Ravens. Maybe take a look

at the rest of the AFC North as well the Steelers performance. Speaking of teams who did play a lot of the starters during training camp, but it didn't go so well for the Steelers yesterday. We'll look at that and so much more to get to table Apple, Lance Pacalister, thanks for being here with us. The third and final hours ahead. Next, it's Bengals Line and the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW cuts down Bengals

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com. All right, Dave, let's go big picture here. You know, one of the big topics of conversation coming out of yesterday continues to be the approach to camp, the approach to the preseason. If it if it didn't position the Bengals well enough for yesterday. You've watched camps year and in year out over the years, in the in the decades, and the approach to pre how much of a role did it play? Did it play a role in the performance yesterday? In your opinion, that's a good question.

I mean, I don't know if I have a whole answer on that, because you know, Joe Burrow's calf injury is a huge variable, yep in that thing. But specifically from an offensive line standpoint, playing next to guys on either side of me, I feel I would feel much more comfortable going into a game against a defensive front like the Cleveland Browns were presenting having worked in a live situation, being a preseason game against number ones from the other

opponent. And that was always the case when we played. I mean, we would play six preseason games and the starters would play a half into the third quarter, well over half. In my second year was seven because of the Hall of Fame game, and they were playing starters. We played the Washington Redskins, and I don't think they had a guy in there roster that didn't have fifteen years experience, So George Allen had no choice but to play like Ron mcgol and all these guys, you know, Diron Talbot, those

are the guys I was playing against. I mean, I'm out there a Stott Knows kid, you know, like twenty three years old, and these guys could be my dad. You know. It's like they're into their late thirties. You know, they're playing, they're playing defensive tackle, old man strength, and those guys could play. But but yeah, I mean, that's that's kind of you know what what I remember and envisioned getting ready for

the season. So in my opinion, it's not a shock when I see that that they're not at the level that you need to be to start the

season because they haven't really experienced it yet. And and now the first four weeks of the regular season, in my estimation, are equivalent to the first you know, they're like the six preseason games that we played, so just about the first month of the National Football League season in my mind is it was that way anyway, you're always going to improve, but the way they handle exhibition games now it's, uh, it's you definitely are going to be

a much better team in October November than you were in September. And let's also remember, for those who say that was the sole reason Joe bur whether whether Zach decided, no matter what Zach decided, had he played them all, they were going to be playing without Joe Burrow for five weeks. So for those who complained about maybe the timing was off between Joe and his wide receivers, playing them during the preseason without Joe wasn't going to fix that.

They would have been playing with Trevor Simeon and Jake Browning during the preseason, right and you know you could say, oh, well, maybe the offensive line if they played together in the preseason, could have given Joe Moore time and taking care of business a little bit more and made it easier easier for Joe. Bottom line is when Joe was thrown the football because of the drizzle and everything in the conditions in the game, I mean, it wasn't his

most accurate day anyway. So I mean you factor in that variable, you factor in the variable that they hadn't played. There's and let me tell you, when you've got twenty two players going against each other, there's a massive amount of variables on a snap by snap basis. And like you said, Pittsburgh, I mean Tomlin played his guys, they got smoked. I mean

you're gonna find and early in the season it's when upsets occur. Uh, It's there's no question about it. And teams will lose games in the early stage and the season like how they how they As the season wears on and everybody kind of settles into what they are and who they are, people looked at how they lose that game, Well, they weren't that football team.

They weren't playing at that level at that point in time. But it is this this one is so frustrating because it's not just that they lost the game, It is how they lost the game. They look so bad offensively. Uh, you know, averaging two point six yards per play, I mean two point per snap, not per rush. That's that's that's a bad day at the office if you can't run the ball for better than two point six but per snap with these guys, Wow, let me ask you. Let

me ask you a dumb question. When it comes to rain, how much And I'm trying to remember and I wasn't you were out there every day. I was certainly not out there every day, But I'm trying to remember how much it actually rained during camp? How much can you simulate playing in the rain in terms of yeah, you can't make it rain. You can't tell

my other natred rain. But you mentioned the dunking of the balls and the how much preparature simulation can be done for rain, Yeah, I mean it's it's difficult because when it's when it's just that misty rain, it's not it's not pouring, it's not torrential, so the ball doesn't get drenched, it just gets it just gets like a slippery slick surface on it, you know, And and with the resins that are on the ball. And you see the kickers, you know, in quarterbacks was scrape, scrape, They're scraping

the resin off. They want to have that that leather feel on their fingertips, you know. And uh, and and my experiences, particularly when I was playing center and trying to snap it when it was just if it was soaking wet, no problem. Ball and dry obviously, no problem. But man, when it was just a little bits a little bit wet, it was so slippery, I'm telling you it was. It was amazing. And that was the kind of uh, the kind of day that it was for

for the quarterbacks and everybody else yesterday. And let's also Joe Joe. And we'll get into Joe and the big contract and what it means in the next segment. But Joe is I take him as somebody who is very meticulous and reps are important and practice is important, and that wasn't there for a five week period and you can't you can't cheat that preparation. And when he came back in the final ten days, two weeks whatever, you get up now

exactly, and you can take all the mental reps you want. You can be watching tape and preparing and have in your head exactly what you're gonna do and how you're gonna do it. But if you're in an out there, not out there getting the muscle memory of doing it, it's like you can try to you can try to force it, you can try to force that preparation, but there's there's no substitute for time on task period. You know, time is maybe the most valuable commodity that ever anybody has in any occupation

or any walk of life or life in general. And same for football. It's like you have to have the time and then be able to utilize that time with repetition. Repetition breeds comfort level, time on task, working with the guys you're going to be working with. It's there's no substitute for it, and when you don't have it, you don't get it. It shows is there also in conclusion, circling back around to the opponent, is there something to be said for if you were to draw up a bad matchup for

the Bengals, that bad matchup would look like the Cleveland Browns. I hear a lot about that they're just a bad matchup for him. Is there something to that? Yeah? I mean part of it becomes almost like a self

fulfilling prophecy. It's like, man, just haven't played well up there in Cleveland, and then you you verbalize it, and now it's like, Okay, that's that's a fact, and there's but but there are I mean, I think I think the Cleveland Browns have a sense of uber confidence for whatever reason against the Cincinnati Bengals, and the Cincinnati Bengals are this is, you

know, our Achilles Heel. I mean, we just we have trouble up there in Cleveland, and it's just it does become almost like a self fulfilling prophecy, it really does. But it's crazy. Like I said, they they got handled up in Cleveland in the last two years and all they did was go to a Super Bowl and go to the NFC Championship Game. And it's not That's not to say that it's gonna happen again. I mean,

you got a lot of work left, that's that's for sure. The first thing you got to do is get over it, put it away, and move on to the Baltimore Ravens and make sure you take care of business against them, or you'll find yourself. Oh and two in the Division one at home one on the road. You know, the final point on all this there is the clear the yin and the yang too don't play the starters in

the preseason because you don't want anybody hurt. And that's great and to their to their credit on this side of the column, they won their final ten last year. They positioned as winners to in consecutive years go to a Super Bowl and go to the AFC Championship games. So it's not like there's no evidence that the previous plan hadn't worked. So to speak. I get the frustration that comes with losing in Week one, and it's easy to say it's

the preseason and it's a lack about this and lack of that. Just the most recent evidence says it worked pretty well in how they ended seasons. True, and again with me, I always look at, Okay, there are losses and then there are losses. You know, I mean, you lose football games. And that was a good game, I mean, good effort both teams, this one tape, this this loss, it's like I mean, but again in our conversation with Lou and Rumo, defensively they did a

lot of good things. Offensively, you have to scour the take. To find good things, you have to absolutely almost make them up. At least they didn't turn it over. There you go, there's a positive that was the big thing was ball security. There's there are no two ways about it, particularly when you look at what we talked about. Both quarterbacks referenced about the slickness of the football. All Right, we come back some thoughts on

Joe Burrow and the big deal as we continue. He's Dave Lapham, I'm Lance Mechanaister Bengals Line in the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networking seven hundred WLW. Let's keep things moving on this Monday night. Bengals Live or are the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networking seven hundred WLW cruising through our third hour and Lance pay Corps is proud to be the official HR provider of the Cincinnati Bengals.

You had a wrap up thought on our discussion in segment one. Yes, and I really believe in definitely Zach Taylor's case, It's gonna be hard pressed to get him to change his mind about the concept of playing players starters in preseason because he's a Sean mcvagh disciple, and Sean mcvayh doesn't, and

he is the leader of that hack, of that mentality of starters. And Zach Taylor won a super Bowl there, then he comes here and implements it and goes to the super Bowl, and then the next year he goes to the SC Championship gap. So he's gonna say, what the hell in the last handful of years, I won a super Bowl, I was on a team that won a Super Bowl. I was on a team that got to the Super Bowl, and I was on a team that got to the FC Championship game. I believe. I'm a believer, and you're gonna have a

hard time convincing me otherwise. And there are a number of teams around the NFL whose fan bases were probably yelling when one of their guys got hurt in a preseason game. Who would have said, I can't believe we were playing that guy in a preseason game and now he's done for the season. It's one of those uh topics, yep, and that you damned if you do and damned if you don't, and it's just you're just planning the odds and

you're you're hoping you're right. Let's let's get into some Joe Borrow contract conversation. The big news of the week certainly of the extension, and he puts pen to paper on Saturday. And I said this earlier in the week. It's when when you're in a position to sign somebody and give them two hundred

and seventy five million dollars. One, that's staggering. But two, I said, if you were the Brown family or anybody in the organization, you have to be able to put your head on the pillow and sleep comfortably at night knowing you're giving it to somebody like Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's true. And uh and Joe Burrow has life changing money for himself, his family, his foundation that does a lot of good for kids that need food, you know, I mean, they're just hungry. And he does it here

in Cincinnati, doesn't Athens. He does it down in Baton Rouge. And uh, you know he's going to do a lot of good things with that money, There's no question about it. And you're right. The last thing an owner would want to do is give a guy two hundred and seventy five million and somebody just starts blowing it on haphazardly, crazy bunch of junk and to yourself, what the heck? I mean, that's that's like, that's that's the worst nightmare. Well, no coach or owner wants that phone call.

You never want the phone to ring at one or two in the morning and it's your security team saying so and so was in trouble. That's never gonna happen with Joe Burrow. Absolutely, I mean, Joe Burrow is uh, he's he's a model for not just football teams, he's a model for how to how to live your life. There's no question about it. And in the Borough family, you know, he and his family, they there's

Jimmy and Robin Burrow have raised a phenomenal son. There's no question. They got to be proud as proud as pune, proud as parents can be, and and and and really they're they're a big part of his foundation. It's a family, it's a family affair, as they say. So there's a lot of good that's going to come out of that out of that contract for sure. And and honestly, Lance, I think that Dan asked in the

pregame, do you think that that Joe Burrow will let it go? You know, physically in this first game, or do you think he'll play a little bit tentatively? And I said, well, in my mind is two hundred and seventy five million reasons said he will let it go, and two hundred and nineteen millions of him are guaranteed because now that contract. If he had not signed that contract, it's like should I shouldn't I What if I get hurt? What if I get hurt? And now what's going to happen

in the negotiations. The fact that that was dead and done before the season started, I think gave him the final peace of mind is let's go out there and and give it what we've got here. I also, I love to I forget who asked the question. But but Joe's comment was about what if he was going to buy anything big and he said, I guess I can go on Amazon. Now it takes something out that I see that I like, I said, you know, show you got this life changing contract.

Any celebration, you know, really you know, it's it's not that time to do. I mean, that's not that's not his m O. Anyway, maybe uh, you know, maybe a few minutes the celebration then move on. I gotta play foot well. Got the Cleveland Browns coming up, it didn't work out too well, but now you got the Baltimore Ravens coming up. We would also be remiss if we did not bring up the role and the involvement of Katie Blackburn in getting this deal done and the respect

she garners around the league in situations like this in contract negotiations. No question, she is a caponomics mathn and no doubt about it. I mean she is somebody that other general managers in the league kind of look to. She sets trends. I mean, she sets a good example. And like Mike Brown has said, she was a math major at Dartmouth economics math. She knows of what she speaks when the numbers are involved, and she's been extremely

creative. And that's the thing is the parameters of the contract. It's two hundred and seventy five million, but he does have two years left on his original contract, so this is an extension. They have them now for seven years, counting this season as one of the seven. So how much is frontloaded to leave you know now that it's not as heavy in these two years salaries, how much of it will be frontloaded bonus, how much of it

will be backloaded in terms of the bigger salaries. So in the middle, you know you're gonna be able to make some adjustments with respect to your roster and all that goes along with that. And that's where Katie is brilliant. That's where she is amongst the pioneers in the National Football League in that regard. She's done a hell of a job that way. That's a great point. Maybe a little bit more on that, and we'll get into the Ravens

as we continue. We're rolling towards nine o'clock tonight, we're knee deep in all the Bengals conversation. It's Bengals Line on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networking, seven hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back in on this Monday night. We're doing Bengals Line. It's on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Networking, seven hundred WLW. I'm Lance, but handless. Her alongside is Dave Lapham. Yes, sir Lance. And this portion of Bengals Line is presented

by Bedford Sportsbook, the official sports betting partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. Want to backtrack quickly, before we get into the Ravens something. You were talking about the vision for the Sary cap and Katie Blackburn and the contracts and negotiations, because it's it's never about just one player, one deal. There's always dominoes at fall. And I can't imagine looking up on a board of of the roster and the age and the contract status and the SARI cap hits and

trying to manage all of that to keep this team. It's a damn good team. It's a it's a young, talented team, but every bill comes due eventually, and you've got to have a big picture vision to handle all of that. And there's tough decisions to be made. There are, there's no question Lance, and you look at it. The last two drafts, every rookie has made the team and then you're in a college free agent offensive lineman make the team as well. So now why is important? While you

don't you don't have a quarterback that's on a rookie contract anymore. You just signed him to a mega deal right now, it's the richest deal in the history of the National Football League. How do you make that work? In terms of the ying and Yanga cap. You have to have a younger roster, and their roster they've got something like accounting practice squad. They get fifty three players that are five years or less experienced in the NFL. There heaviest

years in the league is Tyler Boyd at eight. They don't have anybody in the end on their roster with ten years of more NFL experience. I think take care of at thirty is their oldest player. Who's the oldest player yep, and he's I think in his eighth year as well, with Tyler as his eight. Tyler's younger and Ted because of what took place at the collegiate

career level. But it's, uh, you know, those are the things that you have to you have to do, and you look at the scouting department, say guys, let's let's put the baton ball now, let's make sure we get guys that can contribute because we have to make this football team younger. We can go out there in free agency, but in free agency it's they're coming into their second contract. They're not free agents until that first contract is up. So I mean it's not prohibitive to get somebody into uh

to sign a second contract. But we have to supplement it with rookies, and let's do our best to staff this organization with the best rookie classes we can. In two years in a row, they've all made the football team. Yeah, And when you can plug into value of being able to plug in somebody like Cam Taylor, brit Or or Dax Hill, allows you that that fork in the road of we love Jesse Bates, we love Von Bell, but we can't keep everybody. And we've got Dax Hill in the pipeline

and he's certainly ready. And it just it makes your decisions. They're tough decisions, but they're made easier if you draft well and plug those players in who ascend to assume roles. Yeah, I think I think the successful organizations in the National Football League now are never gonna have to have a tear down and rebuild. It's just remodeling, you know. It's like I'm gonna We're gonna, you know, tweak this front, this roster a little bit,

tweaking here, tweaking there. But never get yourself in a situation where, oh my gosh, we missed, we abuse the salary capital. We have to tear this whole thing apart. We have to tear down and start over again. You know, never never put yourself in that situation where you have to tear it down to the foundation level. Just make sure that the framework and the structure and all the all the kind of things that you need to uh uh to work with. You might be able to put another coat of

paint or put up plaster on instead of stucco or whatever you can. You can tweak it and make it look a little different, but not tear it down. Not tear that thing down. I think that's what the Bengals are doing a pretty good job of. Final thought, Before we get into the Ravens, we mentioned a lot of things. I don't think we any point. We mentioned the tight end position IRV Smith Junior and what they got out

a tight end yesterday. Impressions of earth Smith yesterday, Yeah, I mean, I think it's hard to I think it's hard to make an evaluation on anybody from that football game. Yeah it was bad. Yeah, it was just a just a bad performance. I remember one throw to him on I think it was a third and one of the sideline and Joe's throw was high and I thought he probably still could have caught it, but it was like

that's an example of throw high catch not made. There there's your day, like like I said, a tickoff, yes, you know, it's like, okay, the throw was a tickoff and oh just almost just and then all of a sudden, a tick here, a tick there, you know, everywhere tick to. Everybody's ticked off. That's what it ends up. Because it's twenty fourth three. You know you got spanked. You were a tickoff. You're not on TikTok, are you? He's not. He's drawed

the line right there. My only TikTok is listen o'clock. There you go, head down the stretch. Now, I'll get to the Ravens next. I promise. He's Dave Lapham. I'm Lance Pacalister. It's Bengals Line. We're on the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW and down the stretch we come, heading towards nine o'clock. That will be our wrap up. We've put almost three hours in the books tonight. We do it each and every Monday night, breaking down the Bengals game, looking ahead of

the next game. We call it Bengals Line. It's on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network. I'm Lance Pcalister alongside as always Dave Lapham and kirkstand Cocktails. The only can cocktail dedicated to spice? About that? Are you dedicated to spice link? Yeah? Can be sure absolutely. Spice is nice little spice in your life. There you beat it. Yes, Baltimore Ravens

beat the Houston Texans twenty five to nine. I in reading and listening to many different accounts of the game, the word that came up a lot was an offense out of sync. They're still learning Todd Monk and offense. We talked with Lou about it earlier. It's a little bit there's gonna be some

different things in it with what they're trying to do. Lamar Jackson had a pedestrian day quarterbacking through it, only through it twenty two times seventeen to twenty two for only one hundred and sixty nine yards, had an interception, he did fumble the ball, only ran at six times for thirty eight yards. But they were going against the Texans team with a rookie quarterback in c. J. Stroud. We got three rushing touchdowns on the day from the Ravens

and they get out with a sixteen point win. Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting to see what the what the Bengals do. They ran some five man defensive line yesterday when the Cleveland Browns went big when they went with twelve and thirteen personnel, that being two and three tight ends and a lot of

times when they went thirteen it was an extra offensive lineman to boot. It wasn't just a tight end when they when they were playing in the Baltimore Ravens with the prior coordinator who wanted to just run the heck out of the football, they played five two defense pretty extensively. They can do that if needed. Monkin is giving the idea, Like coming out of Cleveland, all I heard was, Oh, Cleveland Browns are going to go eleven personnel and they're

gonna spread the field with all kinds of receivers and have Deshaun Watson. And I'm like, I don't know if I can believe it. And then you have a backlight job. I'm not sure that I take the ball out of his hands all that much. And they mixed it up, but they did go with their two and three tight end packages and they had the extra offensive linemen in there and all those kind of things. I do think the Baltimore Ravens when they see the Cincinnati Bengals gave up two hundred yards on forty carries,

that they're gonna say, that's the recipe. We're gonna make sure that we get the running game. We don't ignore the running game. We're gonna make sure we're we're running the football. Now. They did suffer a significant injury j K. Dobbins going down with the achilles, But you got to ask Gus Edwards. You have Dax Hill's brother Justice, who is a heckup football player as well. Yeah, he had two touchdowns yesterday, yep.

And that that offensive line is a is an offensive line that can It can be very very physical and they can pull and get on into space as well. Kevin Zeitler is still there. Seems like he's been in the league twenty years now. They're they're going a good offensive line up front. Ronnie Stanley is a athletic left tackle. Uh Marky Andrews at the tight end position is as good as there is in the National Football League. You're gonna have to

make sure you have packages to nullify him. I mean, it's gonna be a good old AFC North old fashion slopper knocker. That's what it's gonna be. You mentioned the Dobbins injury. They lost Marcus Williams, a defensive back, to a shoulder, which I believe the initial thought is it's a significant injury. And uh oh, Zay Flowers, the rookie wide receiver yesterday had

was targeted ten times. Lamar threw at twenty two times twelve at ten of those targets where it is a Flowers the rookie had nine catches for seventy eight yards long of twenty one. But he seems to have and justifiably still create a little bit of a buzz and an exciting element in that passing game. Yeah, there's no question. And I do think with Lamar Jackson, not only the improvisational running game, but we saw a little bit of it with

Sean Watson. You saw the quarterback county, you saw the quarterback draw. All of those things and more are gonna be in the football game with Lamar Jackson at the quarterback position. I just I know, I know that's not Monkin's deal, but if you've got a guy that can execute it as well and successfully as Lamar Jackson has done. I just at some point as a coordinator, I'm like, I'm not going to force feed something to a guy

that is going to be tough for him to execute. I'm gonna take his talents and I'm gonna embellish my game plan with what this guy can do best. And so to me, Lamar Jackson, you got to consider him at

this point maybe their biggest weapon in the running game. How about Sunday will feature two quarterbacks on the field who have signed contracts combining over almost over a half billion with a B dollars Lamar two hundred and fifty million, Joe two seventy five, over a half billion dollars in quarterback buddy, not so crazy.

And when they came to the agreement, uh here in Cincinnati with Joe Burrow the day of that uh agreed upon contract Paul Brown's birthday nineteen and I'm like, Okay, that's that's the football gods are at work, because he was all about the quarterback. I mean Ottod Graham all the way through. I mean Greg Cook, Greg Cook and and and Kenny Anderson, and I mean boomer size Pro Bowl quarterbacks here with the Bengals Pro Bowl quarterbacks that they

that he had in Cleveland. I mean, he's all about the quarterback. And on his birthday, his quarterback gets two hundred and seventy five million. I bet PB raised one eyebrow and then both eyebrows in shock. He have believed that God dressed the soul wherever he is. But he also wouldn't believe that TV money is what twenty billion dollars coming up and the next contract or whatever, and franchises the worst six billion dollars. Now. He bought the

Cincinnati Bengals in nineteen sixty seven for sixty million bucks. Nice return on investment. Way to go. Final thought on the Ravens on the defensive side, Roquan Smith, who they got last year in a trade and really made it a difference right away, made a difference again yesterday. He had sixteen combined tackles, He had a sack, He had two tackles for Lazzi had a

quarterback that guy does. He did everything when he was in Chicago with the Bears, and he's doing everything for him now when he's in Baltimore with the Ravens. Yeah, he is. He's a force. There's no question about it. And their their back end. You know, Marlon Humphrey. Of course, Jamar Chase has torched him, There's no question about that. From

Marlin Humphrey is a player. And the back end of the front is where Harbaugh and the and the Baltimore Ravens have made sure that they're very good in the back end, because that's where he cut his teeth, you know, as a coordinator, as a second a special teams coordinator, secondary coach, and everything goes along with that. So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. Both of these teams know each other cold, there's no doubt about that.

So what wrinkles, what twists, what adjustments are going to be made? From Week one to Week two? Ravens coming off a victory, Bengals coming off a defeat. Half the league is undefeated, half the league is winless. That's the way it is. After Week one, let's head down the stretch, put the wraps on It Finals segment on this Monday night, It's Bengals Line, First Star Logistics, Bengals Radio Network, and seven hundred

WLW. All right here we go. Let's put the raps on It Finals seg better the night to wrap up three hours of all things Bengals Conversation tonight every Monday night. This is the place to beat for it. Bengals line in the First Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network lance mechanist, your Dave Lapham and Dave, let's remind them and they certainly should not forget about lay it on us. Yeah, we are doing a podcast in the Trenches with Dave lapphaman

It's brought to you by First Star Logistics on a pretty regular basis. We've I've been doing it, gosh, I guess a couple of years now anyway, and do it from a studio up there. Get it's pretty much Bengals focused and NFL focused. This past week, for example, some of the guests included Peter King, Bloomer Sis and talk about keys to the game, talk about matchups and all that sort of thing. So gonna be doing it again this week. And I think last week in the opener we probably overdid

it. I think we posted a podcast just but every day are close to it, I think, but we post a couple of times a week, maybe three times a week, on a fairly regular basis. So it's very enjoyable and uh, you know, it's interesting to get people's perspective, not just players and coaches within the Cincinnati Bengals organization, but the national perspective from guys like Chris collins Worth, who's picking the Bengals to win the Super Bowl

this year. But yeah, Boomerisias and Peter King, people of that ilk uh that that do have a Cincinnati connection some way, shape or form. Peter King covered the team in the early stages of his brilliant career, and of course we know Boomer and Chris were great players for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes, and I loved your your post game wrap up last night with Dave Burke. There was pause and then you said, I gotta go. I gotta get on the bus. I gotta get on the bus. Yeah.

It was like, hey, uh, but gotta go. Got it bored up? You mean they're not you know what you mean? Zach isn't saying hey, hang on last and the trenches is there still going on? That was good? That was good. Uh, look ahead. Two things to look ahead too this week. One, AJ is gonna be back in town. AJ Green is the ruler of the Jungle perfectly time because he ruled the Baltimore Ravens when he played. I'm telling you John Harbos said, are we

ever gonna beat these guys? When they with AJ Green a Cincinnati Bengal. I mean it was like they did. They owned the Baltimore Rags and a lot of it was due to AJ had two hundred yards receiving day, you know, against the Baltimore Ravens, and many, many times were explosive, big play touchdowns that ended up being the deciding points in a football game.

Yeah. I saw a picture yesterday Andy Dalton had posted on Instagram. AJ was AJ and Andy were together yesterday for the photo I guess prior to the game. I think it was. But it was good to see those two together yesterday. Yes, there's no doubt those those guys made made a lot of beautiful music together. There's no doubt about that a football standpoint. Yeah, well, let's circle back around something you said earlier. At least to your eye, there was no one of the positives out of yesterday, was

there. There didn't seem to be any knock on wood, any significant injuries or injuries that might be something to keep an eye on during the week for the most Yeah, Yeah, I think so it didn't. It didn't seem

like there cam sample. I noticed him limping off the field and the result of the play was a holding penalty on Teller that brought brought a play back from the Cleveland Browns, and he was involved in a pile up of bodies as a result of that holding penalty in his ankle got tweaked a little bit, but he's gonna be looks to be okay. And I didn't notice anybody else that was struggling to get off the field, or any kind of medical

attention on the sideline or anything. But sometimes you never know. Man. You go to bed after you know, a physical game, you wake up the next morning and you got a little bit of a nothing significant, but you know, a tweak or bump or brew something you gotta take care of. But I think most hands are gonna be on deck, So their health is pretty good right now. What do you say we get? They're here one week from tonight, discuss a win over the Ravens. All will be

right in the world. The Bengals will be one and one and we'll be good to go. How's that? Yeah? One on one, one on one in the division? Back to even Stephen and uh go on to go on a run. That'd be nice. If we're sitting here at O and two, we'll just blame me, Youd, that's what we'll do. But just blame me. Everybody blames you had when things don't go well, right d Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. We'll do it again next

week. This has been Bengals Line on the first Star Logistics Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW