The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker -- 2/19/24

As Hail to the Chief finishes with a flourish, as we close out this President's Day and open up a nightcap for Monday Night. February nineteenth, twenty twenty four. Remember when that song played. Maybe you don't, but I remember when that song would play, and it meant an important person was coming in the room, someone who is to be looked up to, someone who's to be respected. I don't think we have that as a country anymore, and that is sad. The president was never supposed to be the king.

That's the whole reason we fought that little revolutionary war thing almost two hundred and fifty years ago. No, the president was supposed to be the chief executive. He was supposed to be the commander in chief of our military forces. He was a person that was supposed to hold the country together. Seemingly, more and more, the person who holds that office is in charge of pulling the country apart. And I include everybody in that. It's not partisan for

me to say that. But tonight we will examine the importance of President's Day with historian and Christian brother Scott Powell, who wrote the great book Rediscovering America. It's still out there, and I still encourage. It's such an easy read, and it has so much much to say about the traditions and the celebrations and the holidays that we do celebrate in this country and why we celebrate

them and why they are important integral to keeping this country together. Scott Powell will join us tonight the great Cheryl Chumley, who is a thinker and writer and a correspondent beyond compare, who led the way during the scamdemic, who has so many great things to say about the American people, and has so many things to point out about where we're at right now as a country. It needs to be said, and Cheryl will help us say that tonight.

Also Peter Bronson, one of my favorite folks in the entire world, not just the tri State, but anybody that I've met, anybody that I have interviewed, anybody that I've spent a little bit of time with. Peter is just top notch number one. We'll spend an entire hour segment with him, and we also have along the way Karen Katalene, another one of my favorites, and Dave Hatter, the IT guy. It's the Nightcap on President's Day Night and it's about to get started. So bear with me just for a

few moments, and we'll be right back to do just that. Gary Jeff Walker with you on this President's Day night. On seven hundred WLW. Bounce to the crowd, game way too loud. Here comes down, rude be the play by way too low, Electric electric player, Now to the crowd game way too Lablay twenty twenty four, cincinnatirat this load this game wide. Oh the way to La Cole Stars with spring train saving the right fielder. Back to the logg on seven hundred WLW, The Home of the Red Whoop.

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from VO. As I mentioned at the top, it is President's day, and he's a president of my book club. His name is Peter Bronson. He is the author of fantastic, phenomenal books like Going all the Way Back to the aftermath of the Timothy Thomas riots and the collaborative in Cincinnati with the police behind the lines, and then of course you had The Forbidden Fruit about the Beverly Hills Supper Cup Club blaze and the influence of organized crime in northern

Kentucky. Then Not in our town, The King of Smutt versus the Queen City, or the Queen City versus the King of Smutt, the battle with Larry Flint, and to keep Cincinnati a more respectable place to live, and of course the latest The Man Who Saved Cincinnati, which is a Civil War tome with just incredible history included in it. Peter does such phenomenal research on

these books, so you know they're not real conjecture here. He's one of those fascinating authors who was a just the facts guy, but he makes it so entertaining to read the facts, and I think that's the beautiful thing about Peter's writing and his work. Peter Bronton, Welcome to the Nightcap. It's great to have you in the studio. Very glad to be here, Gary, Jeff, and thank you for that really nice introduction. In fact, that was so nice. I think we're promoting you from president of the book

club to president and CEO. Thank you. We'll put you in the fulfillment division. So great, just in case if anybody wants to that sounds like a lot of work for me. Can you imagine before we get started, can you imagine just for a second, being president of the United States and all of the all of the duties and all of the responsibilities you have,

and it is truly a twenty four to seven job. And with under the backdrop of that, look at the let's say, the work ethics and the abilities physical abilities of the two people that may be running against each other again in November, Joe Biden and Donald Trump. It is amazing. Isn't a man who takes one hundred and forty days of vacation a year hides in his basement or on the beach really three and sixty five days because he is not there. No, And and you know when he's there, he's not there.

Yes, the what do they call that? It's not the window, it's the the time that he's available during the day, he's available after ten as but not afternoon every day. And Donald Trump just goes and goes. The energizer bunny of politics doesn't even sleep apparently because he's doing texting, mean tweets at uh, you know, four am and three. He doesn't know they the Trump campaign says, and he says that if they're gonna have me in court during the day, I'll just campaign at night. You know what.

But isn't that amazing? No, back to the original question, can you even fathom having that kind of a schedule and that kind of a responsibility. Well, apparently that doesn't mean as much as it used to, because we have had presidents in the recent past who really take the job pretty lightly. We can see examples of this, I mean, especially currently here we have somebody who is like going back to the Wilson era, where the man was basic all for all intents and purposes. In a CALLMA, he was

yeah, his wife was responsible. Miss Wilson ran the country. What the last two years of the Wilson presidency. Yes, so apparently, from what I can judge, there are always big teams of people who are willing to step in and do your job for you if you are not willing to do it yourself, or if you are incapacitated, and these people are glad to do your job for you because that gives them the power. And that's everything in DC party politics. Power. Those are the three. They matter way

more than the best interests of our country. Well, wouldn't you agree though, that Donald Trump during his presidency was probably more hands off on than the last five or six pres you know, going back to maybe Reagan. Yeah, definitely too much hands on on his phone with his tweets. Well, you know that never bothered me. Well, but you see too much hands on in so many ways that really irritated, annoyed, enraged the deep state of the lifelong the power you were talking what that power and he had.

He had taken too much responsibility in their eyes, and he was trying to do things that he had no business interfering with, such as making our NATO allies step up to the plate, such as keeping us out of wars, such as calling the China out for what they really stand for, and interfering with those delicate trade agreements and all those delicate diplomat diplomatic protocols with the State Department. So yeah, he he was almost You couldn't get more opposite than

Trump to Biden, could you. No? No, And you say two hands on, I think hands on enough. I mean, he wasn't trying to pass laws as Joe Biden has been trying to do, not very much presidential pulpit. No, he was trying to maybe undo some regulations that needed undoing. He did undid a lot of the executive orders of Barack Obama, which also enraged the deep state, which is basically an extension of the Democratic

Party in our federal bureaucracy. If you take a look at the voting patterns in the ideology of the people who staff our federal government and all of our institutions, all of these departments, all these cabinet. There again two hands on to go after the FBI, the CIA, the irs, calling out these federal bureaucracies for what they are, and that enraged them because that threatened

their power. And again because power powers all that matters. Power matter in that Beltway, it would be power first, party second, and politics. Whatever you can do in the game, how can you game to get over on the other guys? So that seems to me that's the top three in Washington, d C. And I would say the interests of our nation are a distant orthor fifth. Well, I mean outside of a full scale rebellion

by a majority of the country. How do you change that? Well, that's the question, isn't it If to get back to what the founders in envision, to get back to the limited government, limited government, citizen lawmakers who would go and do their bit for the country and then go back home and start farming a field. Or that's the Cincinnatis tradition as it's known.

Even in DC one hundred and hundred and fifty years ago, that was still known as the Cincinnatus tradition, named after the Roman warrior general who was called from his farm, won the war to save the empire, and when they wanted to acclaim and raise him as emperor, he said, nope, I'm going back to my farm. My job here is done. So there's the Cincinnatus tradition that this our city was named after. But it is completely lost, is it not. I mean, on a rare occasion, you see

somebody like brad Wenstrop say I've done it. It's time to go back. It's time to go back to my normal life, which I admire. But those are the kind of people we rather keep than the ones who make a lifelong career out of serving there. Yeah, it was never supposed to be a career. It was never supposed to be a lifelong career politics, was it. No, it was a means to an end of serving people, serving your fellow citizens. And there's another stark contrast between the two candidates for

president. We have, on the one hand, a man who is very successful in the private sector, who has done a number of things that you can think of, real estate, investment, development, all these things TV and then he becomes president. Well, the establishment really doesn't like that. What they prefer is a man like Biden who has spent his entire adult life in politics. He's never had a real job outside outside to be in a

lifeguard at one point. But he's had enough, I mean, with the little black children rubbing the hair on his legs, the white hair and his legs. But look at he is easily manipulated, and he is their guy because he's steeped in that whole culture of politics, power and party. And there's an eerie, eerie echo of this from eighteen sixty, so just before

the Civil War, the president was Buchanan. President Buchanan was also for the first couple of years of the war, it was known as Buchanan's War because he, like Biden, was a lifetime, lifelong political hack. That's what they called him. The whole country loathed him pretty much, except for the Democratic Party that got him elected. He was inept. He had spent his entire lifetime preparing to be president, only to discover when he got there that

he could not do the job. He was a disaster, and when he left office people applauded. So I see a lot of parallels. Well, you know, they were talking about back when they were trying to still push this border bill they called it that wasn't anything to do with the border really except legalizing the illegal immigrants that are still invading our country. But they kept on talking. You hear this word all the time in Washington, d C. Well, we need some compromise, you know, And there's there's the

turtle Mitch mcconne. Oh no, we're trying to compromise with the Democrats to get something done for the American people, and all the rest of that garbage that they spew all the time, and they always talk the importance of compromise comedy and not comedy like laugh comedy. The other one c O M I

T y y we need comedy. Yeah. Well, so I go back and I was looking at my wife Krista when they were talking about compromise on the border bill and how it wasn't going to do anything but further inflame the problem. Yeah, and I said, well, that sounds an awful lot like the Missouri Compromise of eighteen fifty, which wound up causing a civil war. Good call, good call. Don't you find similarity absolutely the border problem.

We're seeing the same kind of eruption of confrontation between state and federal right now in Texas that we had just before the Civil War. And this is being caused by weaponized immigration. Weaponized immigration was used just before the Civil War by the North because that's where all the immigrants were coming, and they used it to load up their demographics to seize political power in the House and Senate. So the South was basically kicked us to the curb like some stepchild,

and they had no voice in the House and Senate. And this is one of the reasons leading up to the Civil War that they said, hey, we're going to run things our way, and if you're not going to give us a voice in the political institut tuitions of this country, we don't want any part of We don't want to be part of it. That's right. And they succeeded. And that's what's happening, but not on a geographic level, but more like a red state blue state, but more of a city

versus rural level today. Yeah, it absolutely is a battle right now between the major cities which are all happening to be dominated by Democrats, exactly just

as the North was dominated by Democrats. I've talked about this before. You get outside of the city of Cincinnati, or outside of any major population area that is controlled by Democrats, and it is as republican, as conservative, as Trump loving as when you get fifty miles outside Clairemont County, oh Atla County, Warren County, just go anywhere in Ohio this it's outside the sprawl and look at the signs of people. That's what I'm saying there. It's

it's such a day and night differ it is. It's a shock. It's kind of one of those things that make you really see that we are living in two countries, that we are just in many ways as divided as this

nation was before the First Civil War. And I say first Civil War because it feels more and more like we are in an ante bellum period, but for the second Civil When I was watching cities go up in flames, when I was watching Antifa take over a big portion of downtown Seattle, when I was watching what was going on in Portland, when I was watching what was going on in New York, when I was watching the Black Lives Matter protest

and the setting them on fire, glowing up a federal courthouses. When I was watching that, I said, then, I said, this is the beginning of a civil war in this country. And you know the whole Biden campaign of let's put the adult back in the room, I mean the adult who can't diaper himself. That what you meant by the adult back in the room, and that that'll save the country. And a lot of people voted because they knew that this violence, a lot of it had to do with

taken down Trump. Yes, and it was a bullying intimidation, just like influencing a court verdict. And BLM was raising money for the Democrats. They were in the arm of the Democrat Party. Yes, I agree, Antifa, you know, sorrows money, sorrows money, but again to divide the country, to further divide the country and seize power again exactly. And the thing that I think a lot of people still aren't getting is that the reason. And you can call Trump divisive, you can call Biden divisive, whatever,

but its force is far greater than either one of those men. And I almost have a theory that they they actually let Donald Trump win that election in twenty sixteen, because nothing that happens in Washington, DC is an accident.

They almost let Donald Trump win, even though he surprised him and did so many great things for the country while he was in office, as far as go with you this far, but I think that maybe they because they wanted that division to further increase, and they knew that that diametrically opposed character who was so brash, was going to do that. I tell you what, we will take a break. We'll come for this half hour and come back. Peter Bronson on President's Day on the night Cap, looking forward to

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air in your home. You'd be surprised by the amount of dust and bacteria Sitting at Peter here in the studio. Tonight on seven hundred WLW, we were talking about the powers that want to take ultimate power in this country, forcing division every turn, and maybe being on the brink of another civil war, a second civil war. In the United States of America, and instead of you said along geographical lines north and south, it's more city versus rural.

Yes, And I was suggesting maybe, just maybe, because nothing happens in Washington, DC, that is an accident. They allowed Donald Trump to be president just so they could further divide the country. And you said you had some thoughts before the breakown. Yeah, I would go with you on some part of that, which is I think that they exploited him and for the way it divided the country, and they've made a huge use of that as a unintended but I think they were genuinely shocked that the people rose up,

that he attracted this populous following of ordinary people. And when you see his Trump rallies, that's a stark reminder of this contrast between city and rural because when you as rallies, these are the people that we would see out in the rural areas of Ohio, and that's where his rallies really draw a lot of people, So Texas, Florida, all over the place. So what I think the establishment, the deep state, whatever you want to call him, they were shocked, and I think, in some ways badly shaken

by this, but they quickly mobilized to take advantage of it. First thing they did is they removed the Attorney General. They forced him to recuse himself, and he was neutered. It was one of the stupidest things that's ever happened. And then you had basically a coup in the Justice Department to perpetrate and spread this Russia hoax to do the same thing to the president. And it was largely effective when you think about it. So it's hard to imagine

what he might have accomplished if not for that. And I think when it came to the second election, they made sure that it would not happen again, and that from day one of his inauguration forward, there were plans in motion to say this will never be repeated, We will never have another president like this. And if you don't have to guess at it, you can

find people in Washington who will say exactly that. Oh yeah, And even before he was elected the first time, you saw the emails from Peter Strock and uh yeah, and Lisa Paige, Yeah, we've got the insurance policy.

Yes, Trump can't win, there's no way he can win. We've got to prevent this at all costs absolutely, and then they tried it to handcuff and largely did try to handcuff his entire presidency with all of the distractions that were thrown at a July base, and he still got so much accomplished. It's good for the country. It's amazing to think what could have happened.

And the first thing Biden had to do was undo all those good things that he which protect our sovereign border, you know, deal with China. All those things were gone away. The drilling, the pipelines all gone away the very first day by executive order by Penn. And and now that he's at thirty eight percent approval, he's discovering some of those Trump ideas. We're pretty good. I have no idea how he's even at thirty eight percent approval. Well, I have no idea either. I mean, I just that's

as low as we've ever heard of in the modern era. We've never heard of anybody that low, including even Trump during his impeachment, including Bush during the war in Iraq, when the media and all these people were protesting war. Who are now scratch your head over this one. They're the biggest warhawks for Ukraine. How does that track that the same people who hated Bush over Iraq are now that when we actually had an interest terrorism, are now the

big warhawks for Ukraine where we have no real interest, No exactly. And you see the pictures of the atrocity and the women and the children and the bombed out buildings in Ukraine, and you know, and this is their argument for us to continue to fund this ridiculous war because Putin must be defeated and his his his terrible, terrible tactics, and his bloodthir bloodlust must be conquered at any cost. And as long as it takes, they say, as

long as it takes. It's like, whatever it takes. Yeah, whatever, that's scary. Oh no, whatever it takes. Oh does that include young American lives that would be sacrificed? There? How about nuclear weapons or or chemical weapons or whatever it takes, whatever it is. And you hear responsible people a think tanks and in the media it's allegedly responsible people say that, Well, they're not responsible at all. It's just crazy, that's insanity.

They're neo condults who are part of the war machine. Yeah, because war machine is only allowed to operate if it's directed by one Party. Have you noticed, Oh yeah, exactly. Uh, you know what I'd like to see American groups on our southern border right now? Well? Absolutely, Instead, we're sending more money to Ukraine for their borders than we are for our own border. And Joe Biden says, well, it's Congress's it's Congress's

purview. Noe, Joe. You signed the executive order rescinding Trump stay in Mexico, the wall and deporting people, that's all. Congress didn't act then, and the deep state didn't like it. But the deep state's not going to like losing power. So I wonder how many votes they're going to truck in on election night this year? Well to save their ass. Those plans

are foot. If you read the latest studies by the Heartland Institute, as much as forty percent of the mail end votes twenty percent in many places were fraud. Yeah, and these are all documented surveys. And that's just the people who would admit it. So how many more would see a survey like that and not admit that they're part of voter fraud? Well, and there have been studies that have just been pushed out, including the one with Hartland

in the Epoch Times. Yes, that said, this study shows that Trump really did win the twenty twenty election after all. And now he's being prosecuted for saying that he won the election when it's obvious that he did, or even daring to say that he had doubts about the outcome. That's right. Do you recall back in the dim past when Al Gore actually litigated an election because he had doubts and he said he won. Nobody thought of prosecuting him

for that. It could have about Hillary Clinton after that. You imagine how much behind and I said this at the time, how much behind the eight ball the Bush administration, the first Bush administration was because Al Gore impeded their ability for the peaceful transfer of power. Unbelievable And and it went right up until January. We were like weeks away from Inauguration day before the Supreme Court decided, yes, George W. Bush has won this election. Al And

there's even more behind the scenes. So after that, we had people in for editorial boards at the Inquirer who were at the Bush administration who told us stories about what they encountered when they got into the White House after the Clinton people left. They had sabotaged computers. Yeah, I heard about it. They had deliberately just vandalized whatever they could to make the transition as impossible as they could. Now, that is not leadership, that's children, that's juvenile

delinquents. And what happened in September of two thousand and one, what was allowed to happen in two thousand and one. I always believed in my heart, Pete that if the Bush administration had been allowed to set up everything they needed to set up, September eleventh never happened. Oh, that's a good point. Well, we also know that Clinton was given the option to take out Osama bah Yeah, we know that that terrorist cell long before that,

and he passed. It was not politically good optics at the moment for him. Right. This is what I mean when I say that power and their party and politics all trump everything about the future of this country. That's a lot of reasons. That's pretty much describes where we are now. Do you have a I mean, obviously George Washington, the founder of the country, basically, who led us in victory over the British in the Revolutionary War.

Do you have any other favorite presidents? I have some ideas myself. But let's kick around a few. I would say probably near the top of my list is Ronald Reagan because he actually achieved so much that turned this country back in the right direction after the disaster of Jimmy Carter, after the disaster of Watergate and all the things that were dividing the country. And so that's in my lifetime. If I go back before my lifetime, I'm an admirer of

cal Coolidge. I think silent cal was a real strong leader, a great president. He had the Cincinnatis attitude. If you nominate me, I will not run. If you elect me, I will not serve. I mean that's he basically said, no, I'm out of here, my job is done. I like that. Those would be really near the top of my list. I'm an admirer of Harry Truman a little bit. He did some good things. He had the guts to do what had to be done.

And I can see a lot of I just I wonder compared to some of these people, and of course Washington, how can you, how can you hold anybody any higher than the first president of our country who was such a great man and he and the great thing about that is he would abhor that admiration. Yes, you know, that's why you got a loving exactly. We talked about talked about Abraham Lincoln, and you had some good thoughts on Lincoln. And he's looked at as one of the great America. He's got

to be in that top five for saving the Union. But would you put him at number one? No? No, why not Washington? Yeah, me too. Without Washington, none of the rest of that is possible, exactly. But Lincoln did a lot of things that mannard. You look back on him now, Oh, today's press, if they really looked at it would be he'd have to be His statues would have to come down absolutely. I mean, he promised he dismissed the writ of hapeas Corpus in the Civil

War. He's spended civil rights, arrested political enemies. Yeah, through him in jail. Let him be go into the military courts. He also told all the Southern states before he was elected, even when he wasn't on the ballot, he told him that I have no intention of doing anything about slavery. That's the peculiar institution, as he called it, was part of their enomy. And he was not interested at all at that point and now in

his deepest convictions. Oh yeah, you've seen his writings and other speeches. But as the politician Abe Linco, and he was trying to reassure them that he was not going to turn the country under a civil war, which is exactly what happened. I mean, who was the president who was elected twice but not consecutively. Was it Grover Cleveland who was elected and then one again?

When Yeah, that's a good question. I'm trying to that'll come up now because it was because would be similar, yeah to what's going on with Donald Trump, if you know, if they can't cheat enough to keep him out of office. Yeah, he asked to win by the margin of fraud, right exactly. But do you know when you but when you shut up, when you suspend voting in the middle of the night and close pull the curtains down around all the windows and trucks back up with fraudulent ballots, they

kick everybody. Yeah, I mean, how do you ever know what the margins of fraud will be? Two o'clock in the morning, we're counting again. And my friend Loll Ponty, my late friend Loll Ponty, God rest his soul, told me in uh in the spring of twenty twenty spring and summer of twenty twenty. He said, well, here's what I think will happen, Gary, Jeff. I think that on election night, Donald Trump will be solidly in the lead, and then they will find votes like al

Franken exactly what happened, exactly exactly, and then it's low. Then it's gonna be a question that Democrats getting on the phone and we need more trucks, no doubt, five more truck loads ballots, please immediately, and they're gonna have to find I think they're gonna have to find a different way to

cheat this time. Well, because of the electronic method yes exactly, which a lot of people were afraid of, with the commuter systems and the some of the that was done, and some of it was done, the switching of votes, but the trucking in of ballots. Why can't we just go

back to paper ballots? Oh, being counted individually by human beings. You know what's really annoying to is that, Okay, this you can argue, as we have that the election was stolen, or you can argue that it's questionable, but you cannot argue as the Democrats and the media have done since that election day that it was the most honest and fair election in history. It's a lie. It's it's not just a lie, it's a big lie.

It's got to be one of the big, big lies. That is so big then you can use that to just cudgel people with it and say we can't even talk about it. You're not even allowed to talk about it or raise your doubts because it was the most honest and fair election in the history of the US. Do you remember being a kid and when you were first aware of who the president was, how that was such a big thing in your head. You're like, Wow, that's that's really an important position.

I mean, this is someone to be revered and honored, and I think a lot of that's gone. Now. When did the When did the presidency really begin to shrink? My argument would be during the Lewinsky scandal, right when we when the country and the media made up their minds that it was okay to commit a crime and to besmirched the office of the presidency in that manner because he's a he's a likable guy. So the crime was lying

was covering up the crime. The original and was then lying about it, perjuring himself, and then to just do that before the whole world in the Oval office was beyond the pale. Oh yeah, but we had. I was at the well Yasser Airfits in the Rose Garden, waiting for some ceremony with Clinton. He's busy, the President is, and Detain the Intern was delivering a pizza. Peter Bronson, our guest on this President's Day nightcap. And Pete, let's let's go back through through your repertoire here. What is

still available of the books you have? And I know The Man who Saves Cincinnati is still just selling like crazy. It is. It's very popular. You said, the people love their history. He said that the folks at the library said that they've never seen a waiting list for a book to be checked out, like at seventy people in line. Yeah, that's what I get. The Man who Saves Cincinnati. Yeah, fantastic. I love it. I'm gonna have to get more books so those people don't have to wait

so long. But yeah, all of the books from Behind the Lines, Forbidden Fruit, Not in Our Town, and The Man who Saves Cincinnati are available. All of them are available on my website, which is Chili Dog Press chilidogpress dot com and sign copies available there. Prices everything is there. There's some discounts you can find as well, and also there, i should say, available at most of the local bookstores, including the big chains like

Barnes and Noble. Joseph Beth does a really good job at rookquod of handling the books, Robling Point Books, and of course the Megaseller. Amazon has copies of just about everything fantastic well, and I'm glad I've got a copy of a couple of those. I'm glad to hear some of my favorite books. You're one of my favorite people. Thanks for being with us on President's Day Night on the Nightcap Peter Bronson more ahead on seven hundred WLW. Are

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mean, do you ever really know anybody? But in some subsequent conversations we've had, and somebody that writes every day for The Washington Times is a christian An author and just a fantastic person named Cheryl Chumley, and she is joining us for this half hour tonight. Cheryl, how are you doing. I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me. No, it's great.

I was reading some of the stuff from your website, which cherylchummeley dot com, which he said, I haven't really updated that, but that sounds like me and social media too, so we won't we won't bang on you for that. But one of the the stories I saw that was, you know, going back to Lord to October Bold and Blunt Government's January sixth lies, and it pertains now because there were still political prisoners in jail, in prison for being at the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one, and

the president himself is on trial. The president. You're always president, what's your president? Right? President Trump is waiting on the Supreme Court to decide

if he has immunity. I still am trying to figure out what he needs immunity for to whin it regards January sixth, but whether he has immunity for actions while in office because January sixth, twenty twenty one, President Trump was still in office and the speech he made it the Ellipse, and they're trying to criminalize an opinion basically by the commander in chief at that time regarding all of that. And we know now from stories and studies from Heartland and the

Epoch Times. These studies prove what many of us suspected or knew all along, is that, yeah, basically, Donald Trump did win the twenty twenty presidential election. He wasn't lying, And then they're still trying to prosecute him and persecute him because they don't know what else to do. He's got such a groundswell of popularity in his country, and you see it in poll after poll after poll. So on this President's day, what do you think?

Do you have any crystal ball? Do you have any predictions about what the Supreme Court might say about this? There is president there are two other cases where presidents were claimed to have immunity, one James Madison and one or Andrew

Johnson. I mean, and of course Richard Nixon as well, So I mean you're thoughts on that first and foremost here, Well, I don't have a crystal ball on what the Supreme Court will do because they've surprised me a couple times with decisions, so you know, I hesitate to say what they

would do. What they should do is to grant President Trump his immunity protection, because first off, it's ridiculous that he even needs immunity for basically expressing his heartfelt opinion about the election right, And second off, a lot of the data, as you point out, shows that he is absolutely correct.

I mean, if we can't contest elections in this country, if we can't say that an election needs to be contested, or that we believe we're the rightful candidate who won the election, then just going forward, that's going to put a stop to any candidate, and let's be real here, any Republican candidate, because that's who it'll really put a stop to contesting any election results. I hope the Supreme Court does the right thing and grants Donald Trump the

immunity that he rightfully deserves. Well, we were talking about it just before we started this conversation, and I said, al Gore never was threatened with going to prison for contesting the two thousand election, which severely handcuffed the incoming totally violated the peaceful transfer of power we're supposed to have when it comes to that particular office in this country. And you said something very telling. Democrats don't go to jail, right, Well, right, they don't. I

mean, yeah, I remember that. Well, the hanging chance, the hanging chance, the you know, the dispute went on for over thirty days. I think it was ended up in the Supreme Court, and you know, sorry al Gore, but she didn't win, and like you said, there were no calls for al Gore to go to jail. It's a different political climate, and we know what's going on here. This is all about

Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. Right, the groundswell of support that he continues to have even though he is attacked in the courts now from all angles. And it's just simply to shut down the idea of an American first policy which Donald Trump brought into office. It wasn't just a bumper sticker with him, but he actually did put America first. And that's what the globalists in

their partners in the Democrat Party cannot stand. Oh no, they can't have that, because if we actually put America first, there's no way they seize total, absolute control, which is what they want. Yep, you go back to al gorgeous for a moment. I was. I lived in Tennessee for a long time and then moved up to Ohio for work in the early nineties. But I knew Tennessee pretty well, and al Gore's family had been

politically connected in the state of Tennessee for a long long time. And in two thousand, when Tennessee over whelmingly rebuffed al Gore as a presidential candidate, I knew right then and there there's no way in hell that al Gore has won this election. He can't even win his own state where people know him

best, where he served as a senator. You know for multiple terms that there's no way as a congressman also in the House of Representatives, there's no way he's president of the United States if you can't win in your own state. And I look at what's going on with the primary situation in South Carolina

this Saturday. Nikki Haley is down thirty points to President Trump in this latest poll, and she still continues to spend her donor's money and campaign to be the alternative to bad Orange Man. And I keep on thinking, you're not going to win the state where you were governor, Lady, how do you think you're going to ultimately defeat Donald Trump in a presidential primary or in anything? And her argument is, well, she's beating all the other candidates by

far, Yeah, but you neglected one, Nicki. I mean it has been kind of like, is that just another nat around Donald Trump's face, that the Deep State's trying to throw Nicki Haley in that campaign? What do you think about that? Here? Well, she is being bankrolled at least in part by Democrats, right, and there is a fairly well funded anti Trump, you know, grouping out there who are funding her as well.

And look, it's her, right, it's her right to campaign for president as long as she wants to. And it's just that we all know in the American public right and in most of the media, that she doesn't stand a chance. So if her funders want to keep throwing their money away by keeping her propped up as a viable candidate to Donald Trump, then you know, have at it. But look, Donald Trump is the Republican candidate.

I think they're keeping Nicky Haley because they think that, you know, Donald Trump still has some courtroom appearances to make, he still has some legal issues that he's got to work through, and they're holding out hope that one of these legal daggers being thrown at him is going to be the one that boots him from the race, right, the one that brings him down and cripples him. And so they want to keep Nicki Haley as a Bible standing candidate.

But it's not going to happen because the American people. The more Donald Trump gets dragged into court, the more he gets vilified by the left and you know, by the Soros funded prosecutors, the more his pull numbers arise, the numbers just keep going up. Yeah, they keep going up. So he's the candidate. Sooner or later, Nicky Haley will drop out, but I suspect it's going to be as we go through this legal process a

little bit longer. I remember when I guess it had been six months, seven months ago, when they were detailing all of the different criminal and civil charges against Donald Trump and dope which ones were the most problematic and which ones posed the biggest threat to Donald Trump running and winning the presidency again. And they all pointed to the Georgia election case because that was a state case,

and then it was a reco case. And with all of that, all of that blowing up last week, with the revelations about Fanny Willis and how corrupt her office was, and you know, all the other sordid details which I really don't care about. I don't care about what the relationship was with Nathan Wade or anything, but the impropriety, just the appearance of impropriety seems to have put that on the breaks. Anyway, in the state of Georgia.

I thought that was probably the most serious one. They're trying to make this January sixth case the one that sticks, but the Georgia state case, where there's no kind of you know, federal check and balance on it, so to speak, even though it was about a federal election. I don't know how they made it a state case, but that seemed like the biggest bugaboo and obstacle in Donald Trump's way. Do you think that that goes away

with Fanny Willis? Do you think that they'll make her recuse herself or drop the case or postpone it. Well, I never thought that that case had much legs to move forward anyhow, because I found it ridiculous that she was using rico right around hearing that's for the mafia, that's that's not for you know, somebody contesting election results and supposedly putting pressure to you know, on

the state authorities and so forth. And she overreached. You know, she didn't just go for Donald Trump. She was trying to She was ringing in eighteen other co defendants of Donald Trump. Hold on, that's some of those have made plea deals all ready in that case in Georgia. I wonder if those get thrown out. Yeah, it's just you know, the plea deals

that people make, right with these deep state types. I'm always suspicious about how much pressure went into making that plea right because there comes at a certain point in time where you have to worry about your family, your finances. To me, that's the biggest thing that the Deep State is going after Donald Trump and all his so called co conspirators to basically bankrupt them. And so that's to me the biggest threat. It's you know, when the money runs

out, is when people start talking about plea deals and so forth. And so I don't really see this Georgia case going. You know, it's not going to prevent Donald Trump from winning the primary. He's going to be the candidate. And I think, like you said, it has blown up quite a bit because now we see Fanny Willis right facing some of the old her own fire that she started, you know, against Donald Trump. So, yeah, he's going to be the candidate. I don't know what else to

say. The deep State is trying, but they haven't brought him down and they won't be well. I mean, if they can keep him off the ballot, then they don't have to manufacture all those ballots in the middle of the night on election night like they did in twenty twenty. Yeah. I think also that people are kind of over the brashness and the boldness and maybe just the shoot from the hip style of Donald Trump, and they understand it

now, the average person. I'm not talking about the deep state or Democrats obviously, but I think that most people now are used to the fact that Donald has a really wicked sense of humor and he's going to be that way. So that's one less argument against him, I think, yes. And you know, Joe Biden, the Democrat Party right now has some serious challenges

to overcome. First off, their puppet, demented president Joe Biden, right we've all seen them shaking hands with the air and calling out dead people. That's a serious issue. But for most Americans, the big issue right now is the economy. You know, I talk to people who just moderate salaries or whatever getting started in life, and they see a massive difference between when Donald Trump was president and now when Joe Biden is president and they go food

shopping. These are things that really, you know, that drive home to people about the need of change in the political arena. And the Democrats aren't offering anybody else besides Joe Biden. They are attacking Donald Trump, which maybe a lot of people are still turned off by Donald Trump. Though I agree with what you're saying that most people are used to them by now, But

at the same time, they're not offering a viable option. They're just you know, sticking Joe Biden back out there on the stage to stumble about. And I think people are sick of what Democrats have provided the last three years, and there's nobody better. So it just doesn't look like it's going very

well for Democrats. One last thing, Cheryl Chimley is our guest here in the nightcap on this President's Day night, and this is a non presidential political necessarily, but kind of political as much as I know you were a staunch critic of these mandates during what I call the scamdemic, the you know,

the lockdowns and the masking and the vaccine mandates. I talked to a friend of mine who was a general practitioner doctor who was a firm believer in all the protocols back in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and he's had to undergo some infusions for some health issues he's got now, and the doctor who examined him and did the test results said, you know, you don't have any covid antibodies at all, even though he's had five injections to protect against

COVID nineteen. In the last three years, he's had the infection itself, of course a couple of times and has no COVID antibodies whatsoever. And I hate that for him, but it feels like great vindication and validation for people like me. Is said, I don't believe in this miracle experimental shot that they whipped together in seven months, and I'm not going to put that in

my body. I just wanted your view on that. Errol, Well, there's this meme that goes around on social media that says something akin to the number of people who have regretted not getting the shot is zero, Right, like all the people who have suffered help issues from the shot, maybe from the shot, maybe from the boosters and so forth, all the vears reporting, you know, the number of people who have issues because they didn't get

the shot, right, There aren't people who are complaining about that. They feel lucky, they feel blessed that they held out. And look, this is the reality. And some of us knew early on. Some of us knew that mandates for shots that were rushed out in seven months instead of taking the estimated average ten years it takes to put forth a shot right from development to people's arms as safe. Some of us knew early on this was a

mistake, and yet the mandates under Joe Biden went forth. And I just think that lawsuits should be flying in the coming years about people who have suffered

adverse impacts. Cheryl Shenley, thank you so much. Thank you. It's the Nightcap and it continues on seven hundred WLW and this week's Marketers Report, we learn about the value of local influencers in uncertain times from Alison Griffin, head of marketing at State Farm the Economy and has been on the program many, many times before because he's just that good, and he's nice enough to give me some of his time, and there's never enough time most of the

time. He is the author of Rediscovering America, which is an incredible book. It's uniquely written in chapters that tell standalone stories about this country that will blow your mind with the facts and stories maybe you never heard before. And in these times, perhaps the most troubled times and since the founding of America, which we'll be talking about tonight on President's Day, Rediscovering America provides a

wealth of foundational information to empower you and give you hope. Purposefully written to be one of the shortest, and it is. It's an easy read as you go through the traditions and the monuments and celebrations that this country holds deer or used to hold deer. To be one of the shortest and most powerful American history books ever written. Great for busy people who don't read books.

And I, as much as I talk to authors, people make fun of me, said Gary, Jeff, you really don't read that many books, but you have authors on their program all the time. Said, well, I get the cliffs notes from them. But in Scott's case, I got the book and I just absolutely love it. It's become a classic and record time demand from home schools keep growing through the word of mouth and no advertising.

We're doing a little free advertising tonight for Rediscovering America and Rediscovering America also a timelessly relevant book. Many people have read it two or three times. I go back and refer to it all the time. I didn't bring it to the studio today, sadly, but it belongs in every concerned citizens library. Scott Powell Rediscovering America President's Day how are you doing, my friend, Gary, Jeff, I'm doing really well. That was a very very gracious

introduction for which I'm very grateful. But this is a great day if we get focused on what has made us great, and we got to acknowledge that we got problems. So let me just start by reminding the audience that holidays, memorials, and monuments are more important than the than ever for us as Americans, because we really face the infiltration of cultural Marxism and the abysmal state

of American history, education and our failing public school system. You know, only a generation or two ago, it was understood that we in the presence stood on the shoulders of great people who came before us. That was understood by everybody. In addition to appreciating and learning from heroic figures, it was also understood that it's important to connect the present with the virtues of the past. So can you tell me where we want to go? I can go.

Well, you know, every in every occasion in history, if you look back before the founding of the United States of America, where there have been some pretty good foundational societies, when they have been attacked, one of the first thing the attackers who want to take down that society do is tear down statues, is try to eliminate or erase anything that was prominent or good about that society's or that culture's past. That's the first thing they always do.

That's where they attack. They attack. They those people's shoulders who were standing on They try and knock them down, to knock us down. So we have no vision and no pathway forward. And that's what's happening right now in the United States of America in my opinions, good, very well said, very well said. But and who are these people that are doing this. They are a combination of really, for lack of a better description,

communist oriented people. We have the you know, the influx of radical Islamis. We've actually been living with that influence really since the Obama years, where we have radical Islamis actually in our government, believe it or not, and we can see it in some of the representation of you know, we have what the the Gang of Four. Well, yes, they hate America. They are here, they are serving in Congress and they absolutely hate America.

Now, why aren't they voted out of office? Because they have these safe districts with a lot of Muslims, uh, you know, in those districts they brought out all these refugees from places like Somalia and and any number of Islamic dominated country overseas ease where this country opened up its arms and you know, gave these people an opportunity. It wasn't supposed to give people an opportunity to tear down the place that was giving them sanctuary, but that's exactly what

has happened. Well, it's a sad state of affairs, but you know, Americans are awakening to the fact that are you know, freedom's rights, opportunities that we have taken for granted for generations are now being brazenly stripped away from us in just the last few years. And those blessings, if you will, are being stripped very primarily by the federal governments and its administrative states.

So that's why this President's Day twenty twenty four maybe one of our most significant holidays to go back and revisit, you know, both Washington and Lincoln, because they can tell us, they can speak to us from the great so to speak. Yeah, you right, that these great American presidents, George Washington, the founder of this country, the father of this country. And Abraham Lincoln, the man who saved the Union. You're write, these

great presidents were willing to give their lives to establish a new nation. We're called to do no less to save the country now, So I mean that is impactful. Is if you're willing to give up your life for your fellow man, is there anything greater than that? And George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, ultimately, Lincoln did give up his life for this country. So give me just a Scott Powell, if it's possible, a Scott Powell thumbnail portrait

of both of these two great presidents. Yep, let's do that. So. Washington was the key founder of the United States. He was the commander in chief of the Continental Army, which did the impossible that was defeat Great Britain, the greatest military power in the world at that time. And later Washington presided over the Constitutional Convention which drafted this remarkable document, the Constitution, and then it was unanimously elected as the first President of the United States in

seventeen eighty nine. Less than a century after Washington's time, Lincoln became the sixteenth president, and he was also a wartime commander in chief who presided over the start and the end of the Civil War, and so doing he set the stage for national reunification, ending the scourge of slavery, and saving the United States from division. Remember, the war started over secession of the Southern States. It was not over slavery. It was they seceded. They said,

you know, we haven't been getting a fair deal economically. We've been giving you know, where this you know, agricultural juggernaut in America. We're producing all the you know, not just the food, but the cotton, and you sell it, you collect the tariffs on it, and we're getting

the North rich and we're not participating. So their gripes against the North were really long standing, and they decided finally to seced and they thought it was their right to do so based on their understanding of the debate of the Constitutional Convention that it was a voluntary it was voluntary that the states banded together to form the United States. These of course, there were just thirteen colonies in the very beginning, and there was even debate about, well, what if

one of them wants to leave? And the agreement was that they could leave. So the Southern States did not think that they were doing anything crazy in just picking up their marbles and saying, you know, we're going to form our own government. And you know what their government was formed around. It was an identical constitution to the Constitution of the United States, with some small changes, but most everything was the three branches of government, same terms of

office and so forth. So anyway, so what Lincoln did, he saved the republic that you know, Washington made possible. And these were these were amazing men, you know, whose wisdom and judgment was really profound. And we have to acknowledge that they were both flawed men. You know, they made mistakes, but they had these remarkable qualities that were so formidable that they contributed to the essence of what we call American exceptionalism. And you know what

was exceptional about him. Both these presidents readily admitted that it was not their own abilities that made the difference, but rather their faith, trust, and reliance on God that gave them their strength and opened the way for ultimate success. I mean, well, when you say, when you say they were both flawed men, all you had to do their things, all you have to say is that they're men, they're human beings. We're all flawed men

and women Scott, There's no question about that. We can't help that. And that's that's why we need saving, That's why we need Jesus, and that's why we need God. Because we are all flawed people as human beings. It's part of our nature to be flawed. So it always, it always strikes me when someone is referring to somebody said, well, although he was a flawed man, he blah blah, and it's like, no,

he was a man. That's all I have to say, because we already know the rest from living ourselves and living our lives and seeing our own flaws if we're have the vision to do that. But so George Washington just wanted I mean, he was a he was a He was an officer in the British Army before the revolution, I mean law before the Revolution. He was a member of the British Crowns Army. And Abraham Lincoln, who wound up being one of the great thinkers of all time, didn't have really any formal

education outside of you know what, sixth seventh grade. Yeah, he spent he spent a small I think he spent one year in what was then a one room schoolhouse. But otherwise he was truly a homeschooled, you know, young man. And there are stories about him. He's such an amazing guy. There are stories about him that he wanted to read every book he could get his hands on. So he used to borrow books from everybody in the town that he lived in. He borrowed them all and read them all.

He was a prolific reader, he was. But what you know, the centerpiece of this article that I wrote, and I was published in a couple of places today, was that both Washing and Lincoln were really pressient in seeing that America's greatest threat to national survival would not come from military invasion from a foreign power, but rather it would come from within. And that's what we're

seeing today. So what did Washington see, Well, he gave this great gift to America in his farewell address, which he referred to as a warning from a departing friend. Those were his words, and it was so profound and really in demand that it was reprinted more than the Declaration of Independence. Can you believe that? But it's true, and it was prophetic in nature. It warned against three internal threats to liberty in the American republic, and

they're more relevant now than ever before. And the first one was the failure of citizens to be well informed. Number two was internal division because of party factions and hyper partisans in the ship. And the third thing that would bring us down was the decline of religious obligation and national morality. And we can see all three of those at work in bringing us down now. Lincoln similarly prompted Americans to think and be villaging about internal threats to freedom, and he

posted it in the Lyceum address. He posed a question, and that was, quote, at what point, then is the approach of danger to be expected? And he answered his own question by staying quote, if it ever reaches us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time or die

by suicide. After his reelection for a second term shortly before his assassination, Lincoln also observed that quote corporations have been enthroned, and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudice of the people. And so all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed. Wow,

now we aren't we aren't quite there yet. Well, but you look at the one percent and the people that have the money and the power and the land in this country. And this is not a rail against them, but it is exactly a mirror of what he was talking about in this particular address, Scott in in that and and that's all the globalist one. They want an accumulation of all the power in a very few hands, and the rest of us to kind of fend for ourselves as their servants are serfs if

they allow us to even live. Uh, that's right now. They they're they're they really buy into population reduction, yep. And and so it's it's less less, less non elites to have to take care of. That's why they want to reduce the population and that and that's why we have we have to really see things in context to this agenda, because this agenda has actually

swept through our elites. And so for instance, the Green New Deal and the reliance on wind and solar power and the electric vehicle revolution are all part of this agenda. Sure that is not rational, it's not based on the very things that can sustain America. Sadly, sadly, we're out of time

again. I want to remind you. Scott Powell, a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute, has written this wonderful book where he talks about American traditions and what we need to get back to in this country if we want to have a country rediscovering America. I highly recommend it, and Scott, thank you again for your time tonight. Absolutely, Gary, Jeff, let's do it again. We will definitely do it again soon. Now a break and then back on the nightcap. We're not done yet. Seven hundred WLW.

When do you like to listen to Scott's Loan? I listen when I'm cooking cabbage. That's interesting. I listened to his podcast when my wife wants to make love. I bet she likes it. I listen when I'm supposed to be on a conference call. That'll show the boss. I like to listen to his show while I'm lanscaping. Do you really I listen while I perform

colonoscopies. Sope. I guess anytime is the right time for Sloaney. That's what we've been saying, Scott Sloan tomorrow morning at nine on seven hundred WLW, and check out his podcast on the free iHeartRadio ad. Are you a business owner, CEO or responsible for marketing? If you are, I heard

media can help you reach your goals. And to our last hour of this nightcap on President's Day twenty twenty four, whatever that means, Gary Jeff Walker, proudly bringing you, proudly hailing my friend Karen Katalene KK is back. She's spouting off a and she's doing it with me, and I just couldn't be happier about that. Karen, good evening, good evening. How are you good? First and foremost a little, a little housekeeping, a little past business. As of course, Karen and I had our bet on the

Super Bowl. She was she was choosing the team that lost, and I was choosing the team that won, and we had we had a little bet. Yes, So I just wanted to say to tell you that I am so happy I don't have to send you a pooper scooper, a tent and rice a rony, the San Francisco treat that you don't need to give me the cheap tailor wine or the swift premium bacon. We're I'll consider it. I'll consider it done and done. I won't consider it you welched on your

bet or it's a participation trophy. I understand that it was an agreement. We made a gentle person's agreement, but I am letting you out of that commitment right here and now on the air. I just want to let you know, well, that's very kind of you. I just hope that I'm not going to hear about it. You know, five years later, Hey, no, no, no, no, what about that Taylor Swift bacon

and Karen. You will never hear. You will never hear about the bacon or the wine, but you will hear over and over again that you lost the bet. So does that mean if I buy you the bacon and the wine you won't make me so no, no, no, no, no no no no no no no, no, no, no. That has nothing to do with it. I no, I, and I will not continually pummel you with this fact that you were wrong and I was right, even though it's kind of it's kind of enticing to do that, but I

will not do that to a friend. I wanted to start I wanted to start off, and it's kind of off topic for President's Day. But we know who the president actually ought to be, and we know that now from study after study that's been done in the twenty twenty election, that the that the demented puppet should have never taken office and should not be not should should

not be further ruining America for the globalist deletes. But I'm going to take Somebody sent me this opinion piece and I thought it was very interesting, very poignant and very true from the Telegraph, which of course is the British rag of record, from Yahoo News, and it's opinion piece by a lady named Louise Perry. I've never read her before this. Somebody sent this to me.

Ireland has descended into a narco tyranny, and we're following suit. Although if you live in a monarchy, aren't you actually being in a tyranny anyway? But the anarco tyranny a system of government that fails to protected citizens from violence while simultaneously persecuting conduct that would typically be regarded as innocent. The experience of living under such a system may be familiar to you, even if the

term itself is not. And she sends the example of a career criminal like someone named Jordan McSweeney free to walk the streets of London murdering women mere days after being released from prison on license, even while offensive limericks, online poetry and dogs trained to perform comical salutes are treated with the utmost seriousness by the

criminal justice system. And we've been seeing that in this country for the last four years when it comes to Donald Trump January sixth, protesters people that object to tyrannical vaccine mandates that you know, people be put in jail or persecuted simply for things that they determine. They being the deep state, those who were involved in charge of the establishment. Sadly for you know, raising questions

for objecting to certain policies and the like. That's a criminal offense. And yet we see the revolving door that it's at work in major cities where there are Soros funded district attorneys and judges who are letting the real criminals out on the street. We have a narco tyranny in America right now, do we not? Yes? Indeed, and you know where I first heard that term.

I had never heard it before until I interviewed one of my faith guests by the name of John Zamirak, who I know that you have had on Yes, and that was he started using that term. The way he described it, which new to me, is that there are two justice systems. There are anarchy for us, meaning we get to do whatever we want, and tyranny for you. And that is well, I just call it communism,

but and narco tyranny. I am ambivalent about saying I'm glad, but I am glad people are calling that and using that term, and that is what it is. And I would also add that it is done as a cynical political strategy and the message is supposed to be received by us. All if you speak about question anything that seems wrong, different offends your sensibilities. See, they can be offended, they can have microaggressions. We can't be

offended about anything. We can't be offended about the destruction of our country, the instruction of our constitution, any of that. So if you say anything and you're on the wrong side of their political agenda, it's tyranny for you, and they don't care. This is a digression. But did you see when Chuck Schumer, I hate even using his name, Chuck Schumer was heard to say, oh, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Joe Biden. All of this talk of him having poor memory and being on the way to the

nursing home and dementia Alzheimer's. That is a republican conspiracy theory. And that's all. Part of it is that you can say the dumbest, most obvious lies and get away with it because you're on the anarcho part. Anybody who questions all the things you mentioned, maybe they just prefer to think for themselves. They're on the tyranny side. That's how you shut down liberty, and

they're doing a very unfortunately great job at it. Well. She goes on and in Ireland she writes the current government there, the broad Car government or whatever currently facts fast tracking such a law, the Criminal Justice Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offenses Bill, which would criminalize any person who prepares or possesses material that is likely to incite violence or hatred against a person who or

a group of persons on account of their protected characteristics. Here we are again the identity identity politicish and so also inciting it. In other words, if somebody else loses their cookies over something, it's your fault, right exactly exactly, and it talks about microaggressions and misgendering sometimes classified as a form of violence, but hatred, She writes, how's that a word? Now, that's a word that eventual prosecutor could really make hay with, particularly given the usefulness

of that additional word. Likely with the new law in place, the authorities could easily decree that all sorts of political inconvenient speech is likely to incite hatred against particular groups. But they've been doing that to Donald Trump for I don't know six years. I don't know when a president smears and frames and about more than half of the population for having voted for a candidate that wasn't him, for supporting his prime and only true political punts, and calls them domestic

terrorists. And the most dangerous thing is that inciting hatred at all? I'm just wondering. And anyway, one more piece from this commentary piece, if you'll allow me the levity here, Karen, it's your show. You make an excellent point. Ten days ago, three young children were stabbed outside of school in Dublin by a man, which online rumors suggested was originally from Algeria.

The ensuing riot was met with an appropriately heavy response from the police, and across the following Connor McGregor, the MMA fighter, emerged as the voice of a particularly angry faction in Ireland, angry at the very dramatic recent rise in immigration, and angry at the imparent apparent inconsistency of a police force willing to come down hard on some violent crime but not all he said. He

said, I don't condone the riots. I do understand the frustrations though, and I do understand a move must be made to ensure the change we need is ushered in. There will be change in Ireland, mark my words. McGregor was reportedly being investigated by Irish police under suspicion of inciting hate for making

that statement. Right, you know, we've got all of this, all of this issue with an illegal invasion that's been allowed, been encouraged to go on on a southern border for the last three and a half years, and we're seeing the fruits of that in our city streets, in our justice system, in our schools, in our hospitals. But if you speak up, you obviously are not compassionate towards your feeling human being. No person allowed to have a problem with it. No, no, no human being can be

illegal. Well you know what under our actual, our own laws that aren't being enforced, yes, they are classified as illegal entrance into the country. You know the mistake that is going to be made by many people, not you, of course, but many many people in debating the issue instead of pointing out the tactic, because the people that are behind this kind of tactic, they don't even believe the propaganda they're pushing. There are people I call

bandwagoneers. Okay, they'll push anything their betters tell them to push, but they didn't originate this. All these strategies, including hinds fifty seven, variety of genders and mastectomies for twelve year olds, and things that are designed to inflame and insight people of faith and anyone else faith. They're known who has any common sense or boundaries between governments and the citizen, between men and women,

boundaries between oh I don't know, countries and borders, boundaries. They're erasing all boundaries, and if you have any problem with it, you're the bad guy. If we do not haul out that tactic, then we're missing the boat. Because, as I say, even the people who came up with a lot of this insanity. They don't believe it. They are, for the most part, ideological communists. And this is how you do it. You inflame everybody, have everybody at each other's throats until people throw out

their hands and just say, I can't send it anymore. I'm hiding under my bed. That's what they want everybody to do. Well, I don't know how you debate something that is so plainly ridiculous, ridiculous like the Heinz fifty seven genders thing you talk about, and you know, mutilating ten and twelve year old children for the sake of this division that they're trying to inflame

and cause. But you know what, and as a person of faith who believes that this is an immortal sin against God and against the grain of what I believe, forget about that for a second. People who actually believe in science and biology should be just as upset about this, you know, this gender fluidity and the mutilation of kids, and the murder of unborn babies, because the science is clear. You know that this fetus at two three months

old with a heartbeat is a human being. It's not a collection of cells. You were born biologically as a boy or a girl, male or female. This is part of my point is that I have believed for a long time that going after these things and pushing them most outlandish and truly offensive things, which by the way, I'm reading that even not even independence who can't stand either party, and they have a point while taken, they are not

buying into this gender ideology. They think it's patently ridiculous. And I have always believed and I still do believe, that they take the ideas and the ideology of people of faith for the most part Christians, but not all, but for the most part Christians who hold the largest group of people who are beholden to God instead of government, and they do that in order to marginalize them and call them hateful. They are hating on the very people that they're

calling hateful. That is a brilliant and extremely cynical tactic. I think that's what gay marriage was about, too. I don't think gay people themselves were pushing as hard for it as radical leftists were. Those are the people who wanted to push it because it's part of the agenda, is straight out of Salolunsky's rules. For that's how you do it absolutely so. It has to

be. It has to be opposed on every level. And you know how we know that these things are wives they're pushing because they selectively persecute anybody who speaks up and stands up and says, you know what, No, nope and not not ever. If you say no to their ideology, they're going to come after you and the price gets higher and higher and higher for people. It's the only way to do it. Let's put that theory to a test. Karen. No, Nope, not ever, Nope, nope,

not ever. Not me. I disagree because you're wrong and you're and you may be evil, but more than anything, you're just wrong, and I will you want to protect children? You know not? It's important, Yes, it is. It's very important, Yes, Karen Katileen. It's very very important that I get a chance to talk to you on almost a weekly basis. And thank you for making that happen again this week. I appreciate it. And again the bet is settled. We're done. My chiefs won.

Thank you, my chiefs one, my chief take care of KK Bob all right, Karen Catalen on the Nightcap on seven under w LW will wrap it up with Dave Hatter coming up, Rocky Boyman year, I played in the NFL, and that's pretty cool. I'm also a published author and that's pretty cool. I'll also once share an elevator with a Dalai Lama and that's also pretty cool. But none of that compares to hearing the podcast of the

Eddie and Rocky Show on the iHeartRadio app. Now that's very cool. In this week's Marketers Report, then well, you know what, he's not a president of anything, although he is still the mayor of Fort Wright because no one else will take the position. So we do have an actual executive on the show tonight to celebrate President's Day and the world of Internet things, and that would be our tech guy, Dave Hatter, once again joining us.

And I say our because I like to take ownership with somebody who's such a great guest when he's really all over everywhere all the time, but particularly on the night Cap, and it's great to have him back. Dave Hatter, congratulations to being a chief executive officer on President's Day. Well, thanks, I think Garry, Jeff, it's always good to be here. I appreciate you having me on and appreciate doubts to try to raise awareness about our increasingly

insane digital world. China's vult typhoon spies broke into emergency network of large US city, and they are targeting more and more. You and I have talked about this a couple of times, more than a couple of times, about the real danger may not be from some kind of kinetic attack from foreign powers, instead from a cyber attack that disrupts our water, our power, our communications. And they are making great inroads and they are doing recon all the

time. Tell me the latest on China's volt typhoon spy network. Yeah, Gary, Jeff, I think everything you said is spawn on. You and I have discussed this many times. You know, the critical infrastructure. So when you hear nerds like me, you say critical infrastructure, or when you hear organizations like SISSA, the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency or the FBI or others warned about critical infrastructure, this is the sort of thing they're talking about.

And I want to come back to this specific story in a second. So here's the headline from the Wall Street Journal yesterday. FBI director says China cyber attacks on US infrastructure now at unprecedented scale. So here's a quote at a scale greater than we've ever seen. This is from Director Ray and the story

refers to this volt tyson and hacking group we're talking about. So you know, this is There's been a lot of talk about this for a long time, but the urgency and the amount oppressed this is getting has gone way up

in the past four to five months. And you know, I'm glad to see that it's finally starting to get the attention that I think it deserved for a long time, because everything you said was right, you know, whether it's the electrical grid, whether it's water plants, whether it's knocking out critical transportation infrastructure. I read it one time. I mean, I don't know

that I'm one hundred percent accurate on this. I'm going to a memory because there's like, on average about three days where supplies and the supply chain thanks to just in time, right, this idea that we don't want to have a bunch of inventory, We don't want to carry these inventory costs. We want to get stuff right when we need it, which I fully understand from like a lean perspective, right, But we also know that a lot of

manufacturing has gone offshore. We know that during the pandemic it was hard to get pharmaceuticals and so forth, so you know you already have supply chain issues. We've seen that in the past. Imagine if you could knock out like all of the rail system, or if you could launch of some sort of

attack on newer trucks that would knock them out. So, whether again it's electrical or water or whatever, there's all these relatively fragile systems out there because most of this stuff was built when this kind of security wasn't a concern, and then in a desire to increase operational efficiency, which I get, and to increase productivity, we've tried to automate all this stuff and integrate all these

different systems, which has created a lot of exposure. And again I like to think of it as fragile because so much of this stuff is legacy and it's been around for decades, long before any of these kinds of concerns were a thing. So and when people say, well, how bad could it

get, don't take my work. Go see for yourself. See what various government agencies and well well known world renowned cybersecurity experts have warned about this sort of stuff and then just ask yourself again, if you could knock out the power grid, let's see, in a struct sent like attack, I would remind folks ducks met was a very very advanced computer virus that was delivered to

iranium. I'm sorry your iranium. Uranium centrifuges were refining the uranium to make nuclear bombs, and these machines were telling the operators that they were operating with intolerance and at the same time blowing themselves to pieces because you know, the software was making them operate in the way they shouldn't, so they destroyed themselves.

So this is a real thing, and again I'm glad it's getting the kind of the attention that I think it deserves, because we need to be pressuring infrastructure organizations, we need to be pressuring government agencies, we need to be pressuring our federal elected officials and to make sure that they're doing what it takes to make sure these systems are secure by design and secure by default.

Well, I mean the volt type vult type one. Yes, go ahead, no, please, you're a roll to get back to that, right. This is a recent and that ties directly into what we're talking about here. While I think the major threat is definitely the Chinese Communist Party, Director Ray has said something to the effect that they believe that the Chinese Communist Party and their military have fifty times the hackers we do, or something to that

effect. Again, I'm going from memory, so I may be off to the hair, but it's a substantial army of people who are doing nothing but a attempting to infiltrate our critical infrastructure, b steal our money, and see steal our trade secrets. So I mean, you've got three major problems there, but especially the critical infrastructure. Then you also have Russia, You've got North Korea, You've got Iran doing these kind of things. But here's a

quote about bold typhoons. So when you hear these names like bold typhoons, the government likes to give these attackers, these hacking groups sometimes known as advanced persistent threats apt that they could give them names so they can track them and so that they can say, okay, well this was attributed to this group.

And I'd also like to point out, if you're any good at this, right, you're going to try to make it look like someone else didn't The Chinese are going to try to make it look like the Russians did it or vice versa. That's that's its own set of problems. But here's a direct quote from the CEO of a very well known cybersecurity company commenting on this old typhoon thing. Quote. The concern is the targets they pick across telecommunications

and electric power generation and distribution. These are very strategic targets. It's not spray and prey unquote. They're definitely they're definitively targeting infrastructure systems that can cause chaos should they be shut down. You know, here's another quote. It's specifically looking at those sites that would be a strategic value to an adversary trying

to hurt our cripple US infrastructure. So I would encourage all of your listeners go out, learn about these things, and then start to turn it because all you got to do is the search. You know, again, Wall Street Journal just ran this big thing with Director Ray yesterday. Just do a

quick search, start on critical infrastructure. You're going to find all kinds of information, and we really need to turn up the pressure to start to address these things before something goes terribly well, well, you know, you look at say the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico, whose infrastructure was already not in a great state, but you saw the misery and the death that was caused by people not having electric power for days on end. You talk about the

three day supply chain. Look at Jackson, Mississippi, where the water system was completely compromised and polluted. If a cyber criminal, vault, typhoon, or anyone else could do the same thing that a natural disaster like a hurricane or some other kind of disaster does to a water supply or a power grid, and you see that in very very short amount of time, people who

never think about these kind of things, Dave are scrambling to survive. You know, And Gary, Jeff, I know that sounds hyperbolic, but I agree with you one hundred percent. I mean, think about it for a second. Imagine if, without ever firing a shot, zero canetic action whatsoever, an adversary, doesn't matter who it is, could turn off the power and knock out the telecommunications that work all at once, because you know they've

got backup generators and that sort of thing. But let's say that you could knock out the power, how does your water get pumped. I mean, sometimes it's gravity, but there are electrical pumps that push that water. At some point, you're going to run out of water if the power is off for an extended period of time. If you knock out you know, the

telecommunications grid too, you can't make any phone calls. You don't know what's going on, you have no information, you have no electricity, and you know to your point, obviously, in a very hot summer, that's the problem. But imagine, I mean it got pretty cold over the weekend.

How many people do you think would die if they were able to knock out our power grid like today between now and one spring hits in the eastern you know, in northern parts of the United States, because you wouldn't have any heat. In many cases, it takes power to move the gas and the gas lines, right, you know, I think people weigh underestimate, unfortunately, how fortunate we are to live in a country where you know, when

you flip the switch, you expect the power to come on. When you turn a faucet, you expect the water to come out, and thankfully, throughout my entire lifetime that's always been the case. Yeah, But should that stop because of an advanced fiber attack, We're going to have major, major malfunctions. And again, I know this sounds crazy, Garrett Jeff, but I just encourage people go see for yourself, don't take my word for it.

All the information is out there and some folks have been worrying about this. Even if it's not a fiber attack, it could be any a strong solar flare or an EMP attack that knocks this stuff out right. It doesn't necessarily have to be some sort of cybersecurity computer nerd thing. There's other ways that could cause this similar type of destruction and chaos, unfortunately, and we

need to harden our systems against it. Like yesterday, Yeah, really I wanted to tackle with Dave Patter this story that you said me and it's it's again something we have harped on many times in the past day. But it's time to do it again and remind people who are those sharper image people they just got to have the newest things and these aren't even new things anymore.

Uh. The uh, the fact that you're the fact that your little webcam that you're using could allow hackers who hack into it since it is connected to the net, to spy on you all the time, And yeah, you can't. You can't just put a piece of tape over it and solve the problem either. This is something that I just I wish more people would understand. And maybe they do and they just don't care, and maybe they're maybe they're exhibitionists and they you know, their life's of an open book. And

and you know what I'm not. I'm not doing anything I'm hiding from anybody, necessarily inside my own home, but I am not inviting hackers to take a look at my daily life with my wife every single day because I've got a stupid webcam up. Well, Gary, Jeff, first off, you know, people definitely need to consider why privacy is important. And I love this quote. I wish I coined it, but I did. I don't know where it came from. You know, privacy is why you draw the

curtains, security is why you lock your doors. Okay, And I know people will say I got nothing to hide and all that, but increasingly, you know, all of this data that's collected about you, whether you understand it or not, whether you consent to it full or not, it's being used in ways people couldn't possibly possibly imagine and in ways that can be negative to your ability to get a job or in a department, get insurance,

et cetera. But even if you take all of that out of the equation, you know, now, thanks to AI, could I hack your web camera, get some information and then turn that into some sort of video that allegs you you did something bad? And we also know from tactical experience that sometimes when you maybe your your camera is on and you don't realize it, like the guy from CNN if you recall what was his name, Jeffrey Tuban, Yes, you may recall he seemed to be having a moment with himself

on cameras. Yeah he was. He was, as they say, spanking it during a company zoom call. But I wasn't sure if that was FCS

the approved term. But anyhow, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, but uh, you know, so for a long time, and I can remember when this caused some controversy, I don't know, maybe four or five, six years ago, when people like Mark Zuckerberg and former FBI director Comy would show up at events and they'd have a piece of tape over the camera on their computer, right, and it's like, oh, that's some kind

of tinfoil hat and uttery. Why would remind folks too that you know, software could be dropped on your your device that could enable these cameras and microphones and so was without your knowledge. It has been done and used in court against defendants. So yeah, I'm all for or you should cover up your camera. You should not have devices that have cameras and microphones in them of any sort, any IoT device, computers or whatever, unless you really need

them and understand the potential consequences and how to defend against them. But this story here is even crazier, and it goes to show a We're lucky that there are smart researchers out there who are trying to find these kinds of problems, people like Google Project zero and Palo Alto Unit forty two and other organizations

who get paid to do this kind of research consumer reports. So what researchers have discovered is if you have a modern notebook type computer that's got a camera in it, most of these things have sensors built into them to try to determine how much light there is in the room and then change like the ambient

lighting in the keyboard backlighting and the monitor and that sort of thing. Right, most people probably know you can set your computer up to like and at a certain time at night, change how bright the screen is and so forth. So what these researchers have determined is even if you cover up the camera, it's possible, per their research, to use the ambient lighting sensors to basically see you see what your hands are doing, which means they could perhaps

get your passwords. Now, this is a very advanced hack. I don't think it's ever been done out in the wild, but it goes to show, like, you know, if you do some research, you'll find there's all kinds of wild stuff out there, mit scientists fireing a laser at a light bulb in the room and picking up what you're saying from the vibrations of the light bulb, being able to use lasers and other types of technology to

watch what the lights on the computer are doing and steal your data. So, you know, the good news is there are people out there who are constantly doing this kind of research and trying to find these kinds of concerns. Is the average person going to be hacked by the ambient light sensors in your

computer? Probably not, But the advice of the research is put them somewhere else on the computer so they're not facing the operator right, So then you would have less risk of data being stolen, passwords being stolen, or who knows what else. But it just goes to show there are smart people. And Gary, Jeff, you know, if the good smart people are doing this kind of research and finding these problems, what are the bad smart people

doing? Yeah, you know they're doing it and probably way ahead, probably way ahead, you know. So it just goes to show if you're not taking this stuff seriously, bad stuff can happen. And we're fortunate that there are people exposing these things and then hopefully downstream either A people wise up and change their behavior and or b the manufacturers build in more security, change how the devices work, et cetera. But it's a wild story and there's new

stuff like this coming out all the time. And that's why I love to have you on other than the fact that I just like you, Dave, is that you're here to be our clarion to alert us that it's going on because you follow all of it. So well. Thank you again for your time tonight, mister pre Mayer. My pleasure, Gary Jeff always good to be on. All right, Dave Hatter, you can find him all over the place, and thankfully for me here on the Nightcap. As we close

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