The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker -- 1/15/24

Or some people celebrating the Martin Luther King Junior Holiday. It's a federal holiday. Only three people have individuals have holidays named after them in this country, George Washington, Martin Luther King Junior, and Christopher Columbus. But tonight we open up with something a little bit different and something else that's not widely known by the general American public because the mainstream media has been hiding it from you.

They have not been telling this story because it's not a selected narrative that the establishment would want you to hear. Thousands of American citizens in the last three years have been incarcerated in a gulag in Washington, d C. Simply for being at the Capitol on January sixth. Somewhere inside the capitol. They

didn't commit any violent crimes. They didn't kill any Capitol police officers. There were some windows broken and some halls roamed through, sometimes with the assistants of the security who was there as the protesters had gathered to protest the certification of the twenty twenty presidential election. You know all that part. You know, you've heard about the evil insurrectionists who tried to bring down this country, who

tried to destroy democracy on that day. But you haven't heard about the people themselves who were arrested and then, as I said, incarcerated. We have one of those tonight to tell his brave story about the time that he spent a year, almost a year in solitary, nearly three years in one of these jails. Despicable conditions, deplorable conditions for people who are American citizens.

The man who was so evil is joining us now on the phone tonight to talk about fifteen twelve c two and his own time in the Washington gulags simply from exhibiting his right as American citizen to address grievances with the government. He's thirty three years old, I believe, and I know he'll correct me if

I'm wrong. He's a twelve year Army reservist or serve twelve years in the Army Reserve, United States Army Reserve before January sixth, and he is finally free, at least, you know, we hope permanently and hopefully too the Supreme Court will step up and they will expunge his record the felony that was tagged with him simply for being a part of the January sixth protest at our Capitol. Welcome to Tim Hale. Good evening, Tim, how are you hey? Good evening, Sarah. I'm great. Thank you for having me

on. I know you said you wanted to tell your story, and I want to hear it because the mainstream news media never hear that about January sixth. All you hear about is President Trump inciting an erection in erection ah, an insurrection, Freudian slips, Sorry, Tim, inciting an insurrection and causing people like you to march on the Capitol to I don't know, sit in Nancy Pelosi's chair or something terrible like that. Obstriction, obstruction of official proceedings,

I guess is the charge. And you can expound upon that if you'd like. But you never hear this in the mainstream media. You never hear about the people who were arrested, I believe illegally, unconstitutionally because of you know, a stretch of a heretofore unknown clause in the legal Ease fifteen twelve C. Two. So Tim, first off, tell me what you were doing on the Capitol that day. Sure, well, I was funny enough. I was a naval contractor, so I did that as a you know,

as my full time job. I had gotten off from my overnight shift. You know, I threw on my suit and tie and I basically blasted down the road from New Jersey to DC. You know, I was at what's called the Ellipse, which is the area where President Trump was speaking. Right, and you're absolutely right. There is this controlled narrative that President Trump told us to go like knockdown Washington, like you know, it was the British in the War of eighteen twelve or something. This is absolutely not what

happened. They selectively edit his speech to make it seem like he told us to literally fight. He said to go down and peacefully protest. And I it's unfortunate I had to serve basically my whole sentence. But now I'm able

to go through and release some of the videos. So on my Twitter account, I'm releasing video the government the government withheld showing that we were just standing at the Ellipse and you can literally hear in the background people are saying there's some sort of march going on. Most people didn't know there was going to go anything was going to happen at the Capitol. So you have people like

me who just went for a speech. Then there was a march, and presumably there would have been a protest, but people like me didn't show up to the Capitol building until a half hour after ray VS had his people knock

barriers over, So the average person had no idea this even happened. So we walked into an area that supposedly was a restricted area, but the cops didn't even tell people that the cops were caught off guard though I think it was an inside job, but instead of making an alert, an audible alert for these thousands of people who wandered in, they just started shooting people.

And the average American has no idea that any of this went down because unfortunately, the line fake you know, the fake news media has been replaying this saying twenty second clips for three years. So yeah, unfortunately, yeah, some windows were broken, there were people who did fight the cops, but there's a lot more to it. There were agitators in the crowd, there were plane clothed there were plane clothed officers who were in the crowd. I'm

releasing this video. I'm releasing more video than speaker Johnson. You know, there's there's a lot the American public does not know there were people in the crowd trying to incite violence. There were people within the police who were not only unprepared, they were just completely incompetent. That incited more violence. And so it was basically a snowball effect. It was the perfect storm. You know. President Trump didn't set people up to fail. It was I mean,

just think about who's in charge of the police. The Capitol Police answered to Nancy Pelosi. The Metro Police answered to Mayor Bowser. So yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot that it was going into this. I mean, and now I'll tell you just from my experience in the Gulag, not everybody that was in there was a real Trump supporter. Some people got a little too comfortable, they got too big for the bridges, and they

confessed that they were informants. So that eighteen UFC fifteen twelve charge that was first upheld for us, that's now been weaponized against Trump, that was first upheld in the district court for a couple of defendants named Ronald Sandlin and Nathan de Grave, and Sandun confessed that his co defendant, the Grave, was actually caught in a drug conspiracy in twenty twenty, and that's why they were really at the capitol. They were at the capital to get out of trouble.

So you got to think about this. The first defendants to have that obstruction charge upheld by the district court were informants. What does that say? Connect the dots and you realize these district judges are working with the prosecution in DOJ and probably members of Congress to go after President Trump. And so actually, as January sixth Fendance, this is basically the worst political inquisition in American history. It's ironic and goes to Mark Luther king Day. There was a

point where they targeted the left in this country. But this just goes to show you, you know, political political persecution can be weaponized against anybody, and now we're seeing the consequences. We've all been pawns in this. The American people have no idea. You know, I'm grateful that you know my family. You know my aunt Cindy, she created Patriot of Freedom projects. She helped a lot of us who are in the gulag and she's still helping people who are out of it. But you know this, this, this

isn't gonna stop. Merck Garland, the DJ they're bragging, they're gonna keep They're gonna get another thousand people, They're gonna keep arresting people. So we you know, I'm so grateful for the opportunity to speak with you and you know, to have access to your audience, because they need to know this. This is this is like a dystopian novel. This this is the end of due process in America. You know, we know that in the past, you know, the FEDS, whether it's the FBI with co Intel pro

or you know the CIA, we three letter agencies and trap people. But this is the biggest entrapment case in US history, and it's it's being led by the DOJ and the FBI. Right, absolutely, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. When I was locked up, you know, again with Patriot Freedom Project, whether it's you know, getting lawyers or helping families, I mean, a lot of that was necessary because that's why they did what they did. A lot of us who were in pre

trial detainee status. They did that to crush us. They wanted people to take please, they wanted people to go to prison, so they couldn't release their evidence. This is they put protective orders, gag orders on defendant so they can't show what actually happened to the public. This is a self fulfilling prophecy, and the judges are a part of it. I'm not going to attack my own judge personally, but I mean, this is this is this

is reality, and honestly, it's bipartisan persecution in this. I mean it's it's the Unit party. It doesn't matter or who appointed these judges, even some Trump judges, they know they are going so hard so that they can look like their pro law and order that they don't care that the government is hiding discovery, violating due process. I mean, even to deny people bond. There's nothing they won't lie about. We know how they did Trump a

Russia, Russia, Russia. They're doing the same thing to everybody. I was a comedian before January sixth. You know what they did. They went they went through my phone a year before January sixth to find a picture of me with a Hitler mustache. It was a joke. They made me look like I was a white supremacist or like Timothy mcvayh or something like that.

And I was denied bond, and you know what they can do then if you can't if they deny you bond, what they do in the DC jail is they deny you access to your lawyer, and then they deny you your discovery and so you can't prepare for trial. I was baby. I was able to get maybe six hours of trial preparation after sixteen months in the DC jail. That's insane, Tim, that's insane. A little bit you said. You said something earlier that kind of shocked me again that nobody has heard

about in the mainstream media in that they started shooting people. The only murder I know about that occurred at the Capitol was out of Ashley Babbitt, the Air Force veteran who was unarmed and shot by the capitol police officer, who was made to be some kind of hero and protector of democracy for shooting an

unarmed woman and killing her simply for being inside the capitol. There were other people, other protesters who were shot that day on the Initially, yes, they were shooting, well they initially were using rubber bullets, okay, and they were shooting other sorts of ordinance. But I mean there was a man. I believe. I believe his first name was Joshua, but the last name is black. He was shot through the face with a rubber bullet,

bleeding out of the side of the space. There's actually there's video if people, if people know to look for it, they can find it. But yeah, he was he was on the West Terrif that's actually part of what incited people on the West Terrace. So it's again it's like, on the one hand, I don't blame the Capitol Police for trying to do their job, and in many respects, it was the Metro Police who really turned it into from a you know, in a protest with agitators to a riot.

The Metro police were far worse than the Capitol Police. The Metro peds showed up later, but the fact that these guys were caught off guard, they weren't prepared. They were probably as set up as we were, and they

didn't even know how to use their own equipment. A lot of the injuries, and this isn't a downplay what you know, what happens to men in the line of duty, but a lot of these officers' injuries were a result of their own equipment because they would not listen to their own chain of command, their own chain of command throw it. Sometimes people just didn't know what

they were doing. So there was a point where they actually sprayed themselves with they actually made themselves they sprayed themselves with the OC because they you know, they didn't take into account the wind. And some of them even warn't don't spray anything, don't not spray them, You're gonna end up spraying up. And that's exactly what happened. I know because they did it to me. I was just there standing and I have video on my phone showing we were

just standing. We were all just standing singing God Bless America in front of the Capitol building until the cops attacked. I'm releasing videos like this, and you know what, I was perfectly calm at first, but when I realized they started hurting people. You know, I was a combat lifesaver in the army. Everybody in the military is supposed to be trained for that kind of thing. When you see your government attacking civilians, it's like, what is

it the Kent State massacre? It's not cool, you know, And then when they hit you too, then you really don't like that. Actually, you get kind of mad, and it's not just a little. So you spent nearly a year twenty three hours a day in solitary confinement. Yeah, I mean that was the first year, so it was about twenty three and one, and then there was a point where they raised it to twenty three and two. I'm sorry, twenty two and four. Twenty twenty two and

two, yeah, versus twenty three and one. Then, but then, you know, I have to be fair because a lot of you know, disinformation comes out of the jail from the Antifa in there because they want to make money from donations and stuff like that. So eventually we got five and a half hours out of our cell. I don't know what it's like currently, but I do know that initially they hated us. They took it, they took January sixth really personal. Uh, But eventually some of the guards

mellowed out. There were still issues like we would get locked down if Song wouldn't wear their COVID mask. They were very anal about that sort of thing, and the warden actually hated us because she hates Donald Trump, and she one of them was actually fired because of you know, what they were saying on social media about US. But overall, the conditions in terms of the

solitary did improve. The other conditions did not. And that's what really should concern Americans is you know, they had the COVID thing as as sort of a a thing to shield them with su for the solitary. Well, it's a health it's a health crisis. It's a health crisis. That was just an excuse. But what they didn't stop doing was denying people access to their

lawyers, you know, denying people access to their evidence. Because you're a pre trial detainee, you're supposed to have access to the Bill of Rights, You're supposed to have access to the same civil rights as anyone else. The only difference between a pre trial detainee is that they just can't leave. But they're still supposed to have religious services, free speech and all that. And so what they did, what they did is they didn't do that. Actually,

uh, they but there was a plan. Supposedly they were supposed to, I mean, they're supposed to give you laptops, right, so they have like a half dozen laptops were defending can look at their look at their evidence to prepare for trial. Half the time that didn't even happen. You had to get put on a list to wait for that, and most of the time they tried to take it anyway. There were points where there was a point they tried to steal my discovery the jail, they tried. They

tried to steal my flash drive. They did it to one of my to one of my buddies in there, Jordan Mink. They took his discovery. They've taken other people's discovery. So they couldn't prepare for for you, prepare their cases. There is no religious services you were, you know, for the rest of the jail. Yeah, you can go to church or to mosque or whatever. But for us, we weren't allowed to. They tried to force us to get vaccinated, you know, in order to do that.

Some people did, that's their choice, and they still were refused. Some people, you know, people were denied uh visitation from their families unless they got vaccinated. Some people got vaccinated, they still couldn't do it. And so Tim, you had a chronic ear infection that they refused to treat and it resulted in partial loss of your hearing. Is that correct, that's correct? You know, it improved by the time I got to prison,

but I maybe it's still not the same. Yeah. What had happened was I gotten an ear infection and medical refused to allow me to see an eent in your nose and throat. Doctor, they couldn't even the jail was so incompetent. They couldn't even determine whether I had a bacterial infection a fungle effection. They had no idea. Oh I knew was my ears bleeding out. So that wasn't cool. Man, Listen, I hate I hate to put upon you because I just planned on this one segment, But have you got

time to do another segment with me? Because this is fascinating to me, and I think people need to know. Do you have time? Absolutely, I could do this all. I could do this every week. Oh right, well hold on, we won't ask that of you. But stick around for a minute and we'll come back and talk a little bit more with Tim Hale January sixth, defendant, incarcerated for nearly three years for standing and singing God Bless America at the Capitol on January sixth. It's the nightcap and we

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It's the nightcap Gary Jeff with Tim Hale again, who served nearly three years in Washington DC goologs and in prison for showing up at the Capitol on January sixth. He went to the speech that the President Trump gave at the Ellipse and the President's final words the video and I've heard the words. He said, you know, go home, and he said you can protest safely, then go home peacefully. He said that how they're interpreting that Donald Trump told

them to go and storm the Capitol. I've never had any idea. But Tim Hale was there and was eventually incarcerated, and we're talking to him about the conditions inside the goolog and also the whole reason this is happening. And Tim, you believe that the reason this is happening is to not only stop Trump from overturning the swamp and the establishment in Washington, d C. But to stop anyone who would support him. And if they can do it to him, they can do it to anyone. They did it to you,

so please continue. You were telling me that you tell him about the religious services you were not allowed to attend, that you have a constantitutional right to even in prison, unless you got the jab. And then some people, some people decided to go ahead and relent because their faith means more then I guess some other principles they may have about introducing poison into their bodies. So uh, but anyway, and then they still weren't allowed many many cases to

attend these religious services. Can you expound on that a little bit? Absolutely? I mean, the jail it's hard for me to you know, I told you we had those laptops for the discovery, and we were able to We're a little smarter than you know, the people the jail thought. So I actually was able to sneak out some screenshots of the propaganda they would give us. So I mean, I'll post that on my Twitter, but I mean it was it was a Marxist. You know, it was like it

was a re education camp. You know, it wasn't a log in the sense of you might think, but it was like a cross between a mental asylum and an FBI field office. You know, this place was really really biased in every sense possible. Yeah, I mean with the JAB. You know, I'm not against all vaccines or whatever. I've studied virology a little, but you know, I like to read. I would prefer to be able to read the the studies first before I take something that was made five

minutes ago. Most people had that same perspective. And so yeah, you could not go to religious services, which was right up the hallway from our pod, unless you were vaccinated. Supposedly that actually turned out to not be true. No one was allowed to You could not go see your attorney in a one on one meeting unless you socially distanced, if you did not have a vaccine, and on and hold on. Now, what are we finding out from Fauci himself is that you know, that sick that's what social distancing

thing that just kind of appeared. There was no scientific basis for it, But it's more of the propaganda that that we've been fed as Americans over the last three years, and it does tie in to what you went through, I believe. Yeah, I mean, it's it's just it's just it's a

totalitarian principle of just repetition of nonsense until people accept it. I mean it was with that, it was you know, again, you couldn't There are people there were people in the jail whose kids forgot what they looked like because of how long they were separated from their families. They couldn't you couldn't have visitation. These are things that by the way, the dcjail is horrible for

everyone. Let me just say this penology needs to be reformed. You know, the jail and prison system are pretty bad, and especially the DC jail, so it's not good for anybody. But there were things that we were denied access to that other defendants from like DC, we were allowed to. We could see as we were taken through the hallways, you could see that

there were people allowed visitation with their families. So this is that this is not just an issue of the Bill of Rights and the various rights and that, but also equal protection like the Fourteenth Amendment. And but yeah, I mean in terms of like just the Dystopian Marxist propaganda. We had these things called education tablets. There are one of the ways you could review some discovery

that they weren't hiding. And in order to look at some of the video, you would go through this little like a portal, you know, on the on the tablet. But what else is on the tablet is communist propaganda. It's lgbt B l m N MNOP, you know whatever, propaganda. Those are the only books that you could read on the on the the digital library if you wanted to maybe look at something educational. It was how Trump

has destroyed democracy, how Trump has undermined democracy. Articles from CNN about Donald Trump, you know, ruining democracy. Uh. And then of course you had some flat earth stuff too, So I mean it was just like living in the Twilight Zone. Like I'm not exaggerating about that flat earth thing, platter earth, hollow earth. It's it just seemed like we were It was designed to make us idiots. It was designed to break our spirits and literally

rewire our head. That's why we called the education tablets the re education tablets. And to think this is happening in the United States of America, you know that fought the Cold War against the evil Empire of the USSR and now practicing the same kind of tactics the evil Empire practiced when when we had this long standing nuclear showdown with with Russia, and and what has gone on in every Marxist country, I mean, Maus cultural Revolution and communist China. It's

all very very similar. But you'd never you never think it'd be associated with a so called land of liberty, tim you would think that, and it's I mean, it gets worse than that, because there were I mean, whether you think they're truly ideological Marxists or whether they're just paid plants. There were Antifa in there with us who were posing as Trump supporters, and so you got to think you had informants in there. We were denied bond. So not only do you deny us bond, you know, you make theo,

you bring us into captivity. You were forcing us to cohabit with people who are sabotaging our cases. I mean, the average American probably would shrug their you know, would would shrug up the idea that there were quote unquote snitches in jails or prisons. But when you really think about this, how far did the FEDS go to destroy January sixth defendants there. I mean about I would say at minimum a third of the defendants at one point in in

the pod we were in were Antifa or they were informants. I mean, these are people who went out of their way. They were writing hit pieces about me. You know, I don't know how We're all, you know, we are all political prisoners. But yet this group over here is writing articles through NPR. You know, how do you do that? And then of course it's it's right before my trial, these hit pieces basically corroberating what the government said. Oh, he's Hitler, he's a Nazi, he's the

blnd all. You know, he's the devil. This was planted in the media right before my trial to stap to prejudice a jury against me. Forget how prejudice DC is against trum supporters as it is. And then, shocking, after I'm convicted, the government mentions these NPR stories at my sentencing hearing. So this is a way where the FEDS are protecting informants by not putting their names on paperwork, but still being able to cite third party sources with

their intelligence reports. Basically, I mean, and most of these people. Most of these people are getting slaps on the wrist. So I mean, yeah, veterans, blue collar workers. I got. I walked around a building and I got four years. You know you had other people though, who were you know, get the eight years or ten years or fourteen years. So, Tim, Tim, how are you obstructing official business by walking around the Capitol? How indeed, especially when Congress wasn't even in session anymore.

I mean, as you've noted, I mean, look, this obstruction charge goes back to the Enron scandal. You know, it was even back then they were over prosecuting with that charge. And that's funny enough, you know, with what they're doing is Sydney Powell. I read one of her books and where she talks about how, you know, the Enron thing went down and how the DJ was over prosecuting because they wanted headlines. But when you look at this, yeah, I mean, how indeed, you know

I was in the Capitol building? Okay, I shouldn't have been in there. That's but that's not eighteen USC. Fifteen twelve. That's that's forty USC something or other. I mean, that's just picketing charges, and it's it's very peculiar, how you when you examine the defendants and examine the charges. Some people get the obstruction for going in the building. Some people do not get the obstruction for going in the building. Some people don't get the obstruction

because they did not go in the building. Some people who did not go in do get the obstruction. It's very peculiar who who they charge and who they do not. It's interesting they they and I'm not, you know, I don't know everybody's I don't know everybody's story, so I don't want to, you know, slander anybody. It's interesting, but they framed me as a right wing extremist. But then and I got four years and I got felonies. But a guy who walked around inside the Capitol building were actually bad.

It was shot in that area. Actually he wore a hoodie that said Camp Auschwitz. And I think he got like a couple of months if that. So, I mean, it's it's very it's very weird. And when you look at video and I'm not again, I'm not accusing that guy anything. I don't know him, but it's just very weird. You mentioned Ashley Babbitt. Well, again, this really brings us back to this suspicious activity where she was killed. That window she tried to go through was broken by

a guy named zach A Lamb. Zach Alam is Antifa. He was in the jail with us. He confessed he was Antifa. So Antifa broke that window, and nobody even acknowledges it. It's like it's considered a conspiracy theory that Feds were there, that Antifa was there, that informants were inciting things. I mean, the first guy I met on conn air, the first January sixth defendant I met after getting arrested, was an informant. He ended up becoming my cellmate later on in Virginia, and then when we went to

Washington, d C. He was basically informing for over a year. And this is again, this is this is about controlling the narrative, because, as I said, most of us have had no voice for three years. Why are these people able to plant stories in npo? Are this guy I just said, who's an informant that i'd the guy I'm met on con air? You know, this guy has been doing interviews NonStop for three years while claiming to be in solitary confinement. I don't know how you do interviews from

solitary confinement for three years. You're right, Oh my god, this is awful. I'm laughing because I can't do anything else. Tim, I'm laughing because of all of the subterfuge and all of the lies or the have truths that are pushed by others in the media. Sometimes I am so ashamed of still being in a media that I've been involved with since I was nineteen years old. It's been almost forty four years, and sometimes I'm so ashamed at

what the current modern day media has come down to. Yeah, I'm lucky that I still have a job number one doing shows like this, and number two, I'm just I look at the rest of what's going on in my field with disgust because I can't believe that there would be that many people who were willing to lie or to skew the truth in such a way that it's unrecognizable. I just I can't imagine what you went through. But anyway, please continue. Well, I mean, you bring up a salient point.

I mean it's you know, don't feel bad about yourself. I'm sure you know you Yeah, I'm sure you've heard story. I mean, look, Operation Mockingbirds still exists. I don't care what they exposed at the Church Committee back then. You know, when the FEDS get exposed for doing something, they just change the name. They don't stop, you know. I mean, three letter agencies have been promoting false narratives to the press for decades and

this is and this is a huge part of it. It's like I said, you know, these informants they have are doing interviews NonStop because they want to be the face of January sixth. They want to be the class president, the hero, the leader of the Jay sixers. And it's just like, you know, you got you got twenty seven year old junkies who were turned out by the FEDS to entrap people at the Capitol who are trying to be spiritual leaders for fifty year old men. You know, it's like,

well, I mean that's that's really what it is. You know. It's like, unfortunately, you can't trust anything you hear about January six not from the Feds and not even from some defendants. I learned the hard way. You know, for years in that jail. You know, not everybody who's who they say they are, believe none of what you hear in half of what you see. You know, there are feds or informants or snitches ant

heap, but whatever you want to call them. There are assets pretending to be defendants who are also, in the long run, trying to control the narrative of January sixth, because once this all blows up, you know, whether it's in the Supreme Court, if they do toss the fifteen twelve, God, you know, you know, God willing, these people are going to, like I said, they're going to try to be spiritual leaders. They're going to try to be political leaders, you know, and they're the

ones promoting the insurrection more than anyone. You know. I went there to hear a speech. I say, I was entrapped. These guys say they're the founding fathers and they were there for seventeen seventy six and they're going to fight heeringy or whatever. I'm just like, you know, you can't call

your son, Oh guy, you have no idea. I could literally talk about this for hours because that one dude, that first dude I met, claimed he actually had the balls to tell all of the veterans in the jail that he was a bigger patriot than us and he was a veteran because he fought the costs. On January sixth, he literally took a stamp, you know, like you put stamps on mail, you know, a mailing stamp.

He took a purple heart stamp and he put it over his chest, on his orange prison suit, his jail suit, and said he was a veteran because he fought the costs in January. I'm like, you are, Like, you are such a FED. I've never met someone in my life who was more of a FED than you are. Like, these people glow in the dark, and they're such bad actors. They're not even good at it because they hate Trump supporters. They think they think they can be basically

caricatures, you know. They they try to behave like the press makes us out to be religious, you know, basically nut jobs, conspiracy theorists. Violent. I mean, the same guy tried to get me to join a militia. The same guy tried to tried to trick the oathkeepers into signing a document that said that they were seditionists. They think we're idiots. Well, remember this, this is the FBI is the same agency that try to entrap

people into some kidnapping plot of the Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. I mean, it's absolutely you know, you talk about the the alphabet soup in Washington, DC and the three letter agencies that are anti American even though they're supposed to be protecting us. All again disgusting, and it's it's hard to look at the truth because this truth is so ugly. Tim. I just I am so grateful that you came on tonight to tell your story and to tell the

stories of other January sixth defendants. I think you obstructed official business a lot less than a congressman purposely pulling a fire alarm to prevent a vote on the budget, as Jamal Bowman did, and he got his little slap on the wrist. But but Tim Hale, thank you so much. Where can people find out more Well, first, if they want to if they want to help the defendants, I would say go to Patriot Freedomproject dot com or follow

Patriot Freedom Project on Twitter. Yeah, that's what my aunt is running. It's a charity that she started, actually grew out of the support group that we that we created initially. And and I know a lawyer and have talked to a lawyer that is working with that named Ed Martin, and he's a great, great American. He really is. He really is, he really is. And President Trump is supporting us. I know they don't like that.

I don't care. I'm so grateful for that man. He's the only the only president in my lifetime who went into office to serve the country instead of having it serve him. And I would just say, if you want to see some of the evidence that I'm releasing that shows the government was lying, Yeah, you can follow me. You can follow me on Twitter. I don't have a website, but on Twitter, my name is Tim Hale. Criminally funny Jay Sixer or Lewis of Monmouth. One word, all right,

thank you Tim Hale. God bless you. Tim Hale with us on the Nightcap, finally out of jail, but with truth like that? For how long? That's the question? Back after a break, Doctor James right of Right Denteal Center. Well, on this Monday night, January fifteenth, also nam Is Martin, Luther King Day and on the phone with us the representative from the sixty second district I believe in Kentucky and the legislature of the House of Representatives, and a long time guest on this show and hopefully a

friend of this show. I feel like I'm a friend of hers, at least on the radio. Savannah Maddox joins us to talk about the new legislative session and what's cooking. Savannah, Good evening. How are you. I'm doing great, and as always, it is a pleasure to be on Fantastic. I'm glad to have you. I'm glad you had the time because things are just getting busy in Frankfort and your legislative sessions and committee meetings and votes

and legislation proposed. So let's get started here if you don't mind, what do you think is what's your big agenda legislation or what do you think is the most important piece of possible legislation in front of the House and the Senate

in Kentucky as we open up twenty twenty fourth session. Well, I'm going to this on deregulation this time around, trying to get government out of the way and let the free market do what it does best in terms of capitalism, which has created the highest standard of living the world has ever seen. But the hot ticket items right now that we're focused on, we have a crime bill, House Bill five that has been the subject of much debate.

It has a lot of support among many Republican co sponsors. The last time I checked the list, it was long, but it's known as the Kentucky Stafer Act. I am opposing this legislation. I have a myriad of concerns

about some of the things that it would do. It's better than it was, say, a couple months ago, when it was in the proposal phase, because they had things like wire tapping in there and involuntary confinement of mental ill So although it has improved, I continue to have some concerns about it. Well, what does the legislation specifically say, I mean, it's I'm sure we don't have time to get through the whole bill here, but just giving a thumbnails sketch of what it says now and why you oppose it.

Yeah, so it's seventy two pages. We certainly don't have time, but to kind of give you the overview. My problem with this legislation is that it is designed to address problems in two counties in our commonwealth, two out of one hundred and twenty. So whatever about these one hundred and eighteen counties that aren't experiencing the problems frankly that they are experiencing with local government and Fayette

and Jefferson Counties. When you think about passing these, you know, very serious restrictions in our law and changing our laws because the local governments are not enforcing the law that we currently have. That's a problem for me. I think the legislature's trying to supersede that role of governments that would take place at the local level. It's trying to make amends for judges that are liberal and unnecessarily lediant, for prosecutors that aren't doing their job, and I think it's

a problem. Well, what I always what always drives me absolutely berserk, Like it wasn't a long trip for me, but what drives me crazy, Savannah, is when the government does not enforce the laws that are already on the books, and then you know, finds that they've got to write new laws simply because they're not following the law right now. And you say that that's happening primarily and Jefferson and what was the other county, Jefferson and Fayette

Counties. But then again, I'm not going to disagree with the notion that we have a crime problem in those areas, but you know, taking away the ability from good judges to make decisions when it comes to some of these sentencing issues. For example, it's it's got a three strike provision. It's got a whole host of individually problematic items that you know, I take issue

with. But I would like to remind everybody listening that we elect our judges, we elect our commonwealth attorneys, and for the legislature to step in and make these substantive changes to Kentucky's laws for a problem in two counties versus one hundred and eighteen, when you know, I think that a lot of this, frankly comes down to voters making bad decisions, electing people who have a liberal mindset that does not enforce law and does not penalize crime. So how

how would is this act if passed in its current form? How would it How would it would restrict the liberties of people in those other one hundred something counties in Kentucky. Well, with this particular legislation, I don't feel that it's you know, unlike other types of bills that we talk about restricting freedom, obviously, things like wire tapping or the involuntary confinement and the mental ill

would have serious constitutional implications. But at this point, I just think that some of the penalties that we are enhancing in this legislation are designs to address a problem that, you know, if you're not afforcing the laws that we

currently have, I don't see how it's going to address it. And I think that the fact that we are tailoring this to two counties when we have one hundred and eighteen other counties that don't have these problems, I just don't think that it's going to solve an underlying problem that needs to be solved. However, there is a provision in there that is a particular note to me when it does come to, you know, one of the biggest priorities of

mine, which is protecting and defending our Secondmendment rights. There's a provision in there that allows people to purchase a firearm that has been used in the commission of a violent crime for the purpose of destroying it. Because you know, seized firearms right now, they go into auction and the proceeds from those auctions go to law enforcement. But this provision would give people the ability to buy

that gun and destroy it. That lends credence to the idea that an inanimate object is somehow responsible for doing harm to someone else versus the person that's using the objects. And you know, I think that that's a bad idea, bad logic, bad road to go down, no doubt about it. Is

there anything else that's catching your eye and dragging it twelve feet? You talked about working on deregulation in the Commonwealth, and is there anything specifically that you can point out that you are targeting or you want to see put forward. Yeah, with regard to agricultural deregulation, I'm focusing on that quite a bit.

And obviously in Northern Kentucky we have certificate of need legislation or we're looking at at you know, I want to do everything that I can to do away with the with the roadblocks that are in place, that the red tape that you know, the the un fare overly burdensome, antiquated regulatory structure that we have that's standing in a way the free market. Want to do that.

But the other big ticket item that we should be talking about right now is legislation that has been filed to take us back to voting on election day in person. Of course, you have to have a voter id to to do away with this early voting stuff that I have never supported and voted against years ago when we enacted it. Oh hallelujah for that. I'm totally on board with. You know what, even even in the last still in the gubernatorial election that just occurred in November, my wife and I went to day

of It was not a big deal. It was not a big imposition to be able to you know, to be able to enjoy our rights as citizens and to perform our civic duty. It's not a big deal to go to the polls on that way. You know, whether there's a line or not.

You know, there wasn't really a line where we live. But the lines don't matter and the cold doesn't matter that you know, the people in Iowa tonight are finding all of finding out all about and they're exhibiting their rights to let their wishes be known in a presidential caucus in the middle of a minus twenty five degree when stormy. They didn't get to vote by mail and the caucus in Iowa. So why would we want to vote by mail or

you know, early vote when it's so damned important. Absolutely, and we have always had the ability to get an absentee balance a person was serving overseas, or was going to be having surgery, or wasn't able to be around. They have the ability to have an absentee ballot. So voters had options. But I'm of the mindset that serious people, be they seriously conservative or seriously liberal, have the ability to show up in person on election day with

a voter ID and cast a ballot. And I am deeply concerned with what our Secretary of State is currently saying. He made some remarks the other day that the entire nation is going to look at Kentucky. And I'm paraphrasing here, of course I'm a direct quote, but what is a direct quote is that he said that we will be viewed as bigots if we do not allow

this early voting. And I find that so incredibly offensive. To imply that, you know, any Kentucky and based on immutable characteristics, doesn't have the ability to show up and vote. I think that's offensive. So I'm going to continue to support this legislation that does away with early voting because I know that we should be able to show up in person on election day with a voter ID in cast of ballot. If you can't and you've got a legitimate

excuse. Then you've always had absink vallad and you continue to do so well. Savannah. We we have you have to have a proper, updated, valid ID to vote in Kentucky, and many people consider that racist, but they're idiots. I would just I would just like to thank you for your time once again, dear, and go do the job that you were elected to do and keep on doing a good job for your district in all of Kentucky. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. You got it.

Savannah maddocks with us on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. It's time to go to course, getting ready for a night of a big twelve ball at eight twelve as your bear tax take on TCU's horn Frogs see the Hot had Hot. It's a spotlight event in West Miller's Man are looking to put on a show. What a Dog. Get the call live from Bit thirty Arena tomorrow night at six thirty on seven hundred WLW and on Set one hundred

wlw's live stream on the Free iHeartRadio add It's the new year. Time to get Joining us now on the Nightcap once again in the first time in the new Year. By the way, Happy New Year to Ryan Woods. Lady Maga Usa from Utah to the nation. Hello, Lady Maga how are you hello. It's a great day to be alive here in the United States of America because I'm talking to Gary Jeff Walker. Well, let's talk about I never think of the state of Utah as being particularly woke, but it certainly

has shown itself to be over the past few years. Tell me about what's going on where you live. Well, you know, I've been dressing up as the character Lady Maga Usa. I'm in my fifth year of it, and I really have my finger on the pulse of politics, especially when it comes to the Alphabet Mafia and you know, pushing transmutilation of children and all

of that. Yeah, you would you. I think that here in Utah we would have a nice conservative foundation because of the Mormons, right, I mean, I grew up Mormon, I went on a mission to France. I'm no longer practicing, but you know, good people. I actually moved from Boston back to Utah because I couldn't handle the leftist environment and I thought I was coming back to a state where you know, it's good old fashioned values. They don't drink, they don't smoke. We're going to have a

good, solid Republican conservative environment here. Well, the opposite is happening, much like in Minneapolis. You know, Minnesota is known as the state of Nice, so that's where they have overrun the state with Islamic immigrants who do not adhere to the nice values of Minnesota. And it's not a coincidence that the Black Lives Matter terrorism began in Minneapolis. So the left really knows how to target populations of kind and fairly naive people who want to do good.

But the road to hell was paid in good intentions. So what has happened here in Utah. I'll give you an example of our governor Spencer Cox. He is a self proclaimed Mormon, he is a self proclaimed Republican, and yet he has in his social media profiles his pronouns. I mean, we're talking complete and total wolf in chiefs clothing. You know, we have Mitt Romney, who is a trader and a monster as far as I'm concerned.

He stands for anything and everything that is essentially in alignment with Rhinos and the left. He openly said he would vote for a Democrat over Donald Trump, which means that he would be voting for late term partial birth mutilation on born

babies, so he is not a conservative. So what has happened here in the state of Utah when I went to the legislature or to testify for Senate Bill sixteen with Senator Michael Kennedy, which passed it is illegal for people to mutilate and drug children here in Utah who are allegedly trans Yeah, they listen to me because I'm a guy who likes to dress up and make up in a wig, and I just throw it in their face. You know, my dress up is a very carefully crafted political tool to show the left how

how incredibly ridiculous they are. Yeah, reality, well plus plus plus you're an adult too, well, of course, yeah, do what you want when you're an adult, Nobody cared. The only reason people care about drag queens and all that now is because they've gotten out of hand. They've crossed the boundaries of decency by stripping in libraries. So what I wanted to tell you is when I was at the capitol after I testified, not only did I have to get escorted to my car by the police, because the woke

mod was coming for me. I had to testify against Mormons, Mormon men who got up and said, I am an active elder member of the church that Jesus chribes a lot of these saints, I hold the priesthood, and I am also the father of a three year old transgender girl, meaning a little boy that he has groomed into thinking that he's in the wrong body. So I've just been really shocked. And during the you know, a so called pandemic, the LDS church did nothing to stand up for their right to

assemble. I noticed the Jews in New York, We're all about fighting it. They're like, never again, you can't stop us from you know, assembling and worshiping. The Mormons did not sing, They folded their arms, they were reverent, and they did you know, they pushed the job on the children through their children's publications. They had an image of a little child wearing a mask getting the job that said I can be brave. And so

the LDS people are letting us down. And the majority of Utahon's I think, may still vote for Trump, but there's a mass percentage of people who don't like Trump because he's not nice. And he hurts feelings and he's not being christ Like, and so they're willing to vote for someone who is going to destroy America instead of looking at Trump's policies. I don't care about his person. So the same people who wouldn't vote for Trump because he's not quote

christ Like, are the same people. And I don't find this very christ like. If you're advocating to a three or four year old child that God put them in the wrong body sexually and that they need to you know, it just doesn't doesn't add up. That's exactly right. I know a wonderful woman, she's in her seventies, she's a dear friend. She is a leftist as less can be, still claims to be Mormon, And I just asked her, you do realize that by voting Democrat, you're voting against everything

you claim to stand for. You're voting against free speech, you're voting against you know, religious freedom, You're voting again, you're voting for children being mutilated. Even in the ninth month, they celebrated it in New York with the Empire State Building. So the road to hell really is paved in good intentions, And I'm just set up with Utah. Spencer Cox is also pushing the fifteen minute cities, and recently we've become aware that Utah is actually a

target to implement ESG governance. They are building a massive and I mean massive, fifteen minute city complex here in Utah near Draper, Utah. It's going to have, of course, affordable housing, meaning affordable for anybody unless you're a working white person. You know they're going to have. Everything's walkable, everything is sustainable, everything is carbon footprint. You don't need to drive.

Basically, own nothing, live in a box and be happy. And this is something our governor has open advocated for, although he will deny it. He says one thing out of one side of his mouth and then does another thing. So we're in the legislative session right now, and of course good old Lady Maga is going to be up there. Well, Ryan fight Ken, thank you for being here with me tonight, and we will make this a regular habit. As long as you're able and willing to come on the

air, I'd love to have you back. Okay, we just need to roll. Well, it's always it's always an honor. People can just follow Lady Maga USA on Facebook if they want to keep up with what's going on. Thank you, sir, Lady Maga USA on Facebook, check it out news, traffic and weather. News Radio seven hundred wl W, Cincinnati.

A powerful showing by the GOP front runner with the ten thirty report, I'm Taron Johnson breaking now former President Donald Trump expected to win the Iowa caucuses by its substantial margin, with the real question now being who finishes in second, Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis. The latest from ABC News. This is a special report for ABC News the Iowa Caucuses. I'm Lionel Noyees. ABC News projects that Trump will win based on the entrance poll, and he's celebrating already.

Trump's campaign sending a fundraising email announcing to his supporters, we just won in a landslide. Some reaction from the Biden administration. They say it is clear Donald Trump is the official front runner for the twenty twenty four Republican presidential nomination. This all comes, interestingly in the form of a fundraising pitch that has just hit everyone's inboxes. Goes on to say, we now need to work even harder. Now if Donald Trump is our opponent, we can expect

vile lies vile attacks, endless lies, and massive spending. ABC's Mary Bruce reporting, Nicki Helly and Ron DeSantis are fighting for second and based on analysis of the vote, ABC News projects that Ramaswami will come in forth. ABC News estimates that turnout and the caucuses much lower than twenty sixteen. This is also the coldest caucus night in history. This is in the series. Now the latest traffic and weather together. No major delays or accidents on our tri

state highways at this point in time. Now the lates forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling Weather Center on news Radio seven hundred WLW. Heading to our Tuesday morning, looks like it's cloudy and we'll see a slight chance of Flourri's a seven am temperature of nine. As for the rest of our Tuesday, it's a mix of clouds and sun, a high as seventeen at night,

fair skies, and we'd down to seven. From your severe weather station, I'm nine First Warning Chief Meteorologist Steve Rawley, News Radio seven hundred WLW. It's currently mostly cloudy and we're seeing a temperature of twelve degrees. A woman killed in the house fire this morning in Springfield township has been identified. Cruise responding to that home in the ninety eight hundred block of Winton Road. One person was able to get out without entries, but thirty five year old Heidi

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WLW and iHeartRadio station. I'm starting the new year by making my home feel like new with advanced cleaning at Zeros take advantage of their New Year sale. As my spirit guide would say when I was out in the reservation, I'm making that up completely. It was months ago, though. The last time I had the chance and you had the chance to hear a conversation with Karen, Catalene and KK is back in twenty twenty four, and I hope it's

the beginning of many, many more happy and some somewhat fractured conversations. Because they're always a little bit off when we get together. But it is so great to have you back on miss spouting off and welcome Karen Catalide. Well, Gary, Jeff, you are so kind and gracious. I appreciate it and it's good to be back. I took a little sabbatical and sometimes people need to do that. So that's what they did. Well, remember when you take a little sabbatical, you should take it with lots of fluid,

because you should never you should never rely on on a drug. Right, Well, no, I mean whatever, I think. I think the doctor recommends water, but you do you. It's fine. I'm not advocating alcoholism. Trust no, I understand. So today, among among other things, it is also Martin Luther King Junior Day in America. It's also the first day of the political produ says for twenty twenty four. My birth state, Iowa is today in the middle of a sub zero freezer holding their their their

every four years quadrinial Iowa caucus. And that's somewhat different than a primary caucus. For people who still don't know the drill and you're not from Iowa. That's just a bunch of little meeting places where people get together and debate the candidates and try and convince one another that they should they should go along and caucus for a particular candidate. Of course, the Republicans are hell vcs Ramaswami went to all ninety nine counties multiple times in Iowa and he is a very

high favorable rating. He does not have a high polling rating so far. Nikki Haley and Ron dessentis bringing up the rears. So to speak to the front runner, President Trump, who has been leading the whole time. My question for you, Karen Katalene, and I know that you're as much a slave to grammatics as I am. It's more than it's more than one caucus.

So is it caucuses or cauky Well, it's all cawkaite as far as I'm concerned, and hat tipped to Rush Limbaugh, who is I think the first person to call them cauk eyes and in there because you know you and I both appreciate and love Rush Limbaugh. No one else like him ever. So yeah, under under the best of circumstances, caucays are great. It

means that it's government closest to the people. But the deep state Republicans and of course the communist Democrats are doing everything they can to get rid of the caucus, to get rid of our voice, to get rid of our votes. And so this is the part that bothers me the most, since I'm always honest and straight up with you, and that is so much of this is a pretend show. And as a Tatow host, believe it or not, I have not watched the debates because I don't like when pablum is served

up to me and I'm expected to eat it. This is the biggest charade I've ever seen. Much of it funded by Democrats. They're funding Nikki Hailey,

They're funding a lot of them. They believe in competition for their opponents, who they then disqualify, frame and drum out of the process entirely, but they don't believe in debates or competition on their own on their own side, and the mere fact that they are constantly writing new laws for everybody else and different ones for themselves means that the only way that we can really be reasonably defiant and reasonably honest with ourselves is not to play their stupid game.

I'm not saying all of this is not going to happen. It's all going to happen. It just bothers the life out of me that even some pundits you and I know tend to play this game as if it's real, and they just they're like little cats who march to the laser pointer. Well, you know it march. It is what it is, Karen, is the same problem that social media presents in our society. It's all about views,

eyeballs, and clicks. And for people who are vying for those audiences, yeah, they will play along with the charade because they know that people are paying attention, that a large swath of people, sadly are paying attention to it. So I take issue with it. I don't think they are paying very much attention. Again, so much of this is a dog and pony show. If it was an honest process, I'd say go for it.

The debates on the Republican side, much of it funded by Democrat money and Trump aiding money, is to give the illusion that there is opposition to Trump,

substantial opposition to Trump, and there hasn't been all along. What they do is they suppress the opposition to Biden, which even a bunch of Democrats have, and they Trump up the opposition to Trump, and they've never been very successful at it, except for the most gullible among us, you know, And so I just think I'm a big believer in telling I'm usually the nine year old kid who says the Emperor is naked, and I'm going to continue to do that, because all of this is a charade to get the

illusion that the process is fair. When one side is calling the shops and telling everybody else the rules by which they are expected to play, but they never play by the rules that they demand others play, means that the smartest thing you can do is say I plan I plan this game. I love it. Yeah. And one of the awful things about pointing out that the emperor has no clothes. I don't know if you've ever noticed, but if you go to a nudist colony, the people who are there to be nude

really should never be naked, maybe even inside their own homes. That's the problem. You know that old phrase, you know, and they pay you to put it back on. Well, that's how that's how I've earned all my stripper dollars. I'll tell you that I keep a spare set of clothes hanging on just in case the dollars start flying, exactly, And it is always important, you know, because honestly, look at how easy it is to take the wind out of sales of people when somebody has the gusts to

tell the truth, you know. And so that's what we must keep doing. You want a fair process, then have debates on the Democrats side. They don't believe in debates. They believe in dictators, and that's who they are. For dictators. You want to hear about dictation and dictators in places of power. There is no greater example of that than many of these incarcerated

January sixth defendants. I had an hour long discussion had an hour long discussion earlier tonight with one of them who was finally free after nearly three years, a man named Tim Hale, who never went inside the capitol, was not participating in any kind of violence whatsoever, and again spent almost three years in one of the gulags in Washington, d C. While the DOJ plans to round up another thousand or so. According to Merrick Garland, so yeah,

dictatorship is alive and well in America, and it's in some of the highest seats of power. In this country. Sadly, you know what, you know what, Gary, Jeff. What amazes me is the number of people who just take that into stride and do not understand the profound significance of that and so many other things that have been allowed to go unaccounted for. People

are not held accountable. The very idea that we could have political prisoners in this country with again trumped up charges, ignoring the facts in the case, suppressing information in the case, demonizing people who dare to act ask questions, which is true of every lie that is being told today. If they're telling you you're not allowed to ask questions, they're telling you you're not allowed to take a different point of view, which is as American as football and apple

pie, then you know they're lying. And yet the lack of outrage, the lack of understanding of the significance and what it implies about these people who are willing to prosecute their their most their most formidable, and their only opponents of the Republican side, and to have the hutspun as the unish word, you know, to to actually take steps to take him off the ballot when he's been charged with nothing, when he's been convicted of nothing. The fact

that there's so many people who are not horrified. They are horrified and they are outraged by it, but you never really hear it. It's well, it's not that you're not hearing it from the public, just it's the complicity of media platforms in not telling their story. And that's why I thought it was important to have Tim Hale on tonight to tell his story and to tell stories of other January sixth defendants, stuff that the American public has no idea.

They're not raising his stake because they don't know how bad it is, Karen, because again, their sources of information have been corrupted by those same evil dictatorial powers and we'll not let the truth out. You're exactly right. And not only that, but they've inculcated the public into an emotional space area

that everything is a hysterical in immediate outrage. Everything is an outrage. And they do that on purpose, to drum people up into a frenzy so that they take leave of their logic, their common sense, and their sense of justice and fairness. I mean, all the rules that judges give juries about deciding a case based on the fact, trying very hard not to be biased. All of that goes out the window when the media wants to demagogue every

issue and drive people into a frenzy. I've seen people who are normally reasonable, logical people who just get wild eyed after being fed this propaganda for so many years. Well as well, they should, they should throw the book at them. Well, you know, it's easy to jump on a band, even when the propaganda masters are telling you you're a good and desist and a virtue signaled person for taking a wild eye, radical, hateful views of

everything without knowing what the facts are. Now you know what? And you wonder, really why there is so much hatred of Donald Trump. I don't, but you wonder the average person would wonder why what. Maybe they wonder why they hate Donald Trump because they've been convinced by all the propaganda we're talking about. But you wonder, though. It can't just be a personality thing. No, it's not a personality. It's not about whether he's nice or

mean. It's not about whether he's harsh or whether it's about the fact that he is exposing the underpinnings of the dictatorship on a regular basis and trying to unseat it. From our Democrat, from our country, from our republic, from our government, from the inner corridors of Washington, DC. And that's the last thing they wanted. I knew that the first time he ran and won in twenty sixteen. That's why they hated him. And they will not

let up because they don't want to relinquish that control. Well, of course, and not only that, but they're using that same demagogery to whip people up in a frenzy. And they even told us they were going to do it the minute he was elected and they couldn't reverse his election, they said, we are going to go on the offensive. No sportsmanship like in football. Here's the question I asked, is at what point does the everyday citizen

who hate Donald Trump with a passion because CNN told him to. At what points, and this is an unanswered question, does that person begin to look at the same finger pointers that have been pointing fingers and whipping up hate and just the most outrageous charges. At some point you have to look at the motive of the people that are whipping people up into a frenzy. As a social worker, I am constantly fascinated by what it is that gets people to

be dooked the way they are, and they don't think for themselves. Now, I think there are many more people who do understand what's going on, but many feel powerless to do anything about it. But that gullibility, it isn't a my Q thing. It's more an emotional thing. I don't know what it is, but it isn't just intelligence. It's something else that causes someone like a marvelous Naomi Wolf who questioned her own tribe liberals and then got

to see what it's like when you question them. That's what cultists do. They demonize, you tell you you shouldn't pay attention to anybody else but them. And it's the courage that ask them to ask questions and to defy convention. Remember when liberals used to be the ones who told us to the bi convention. Now they are the establishment telling everybody it's my way or the highway. Yeah, real quick, Karen, with our last minute together. I

always love to read some of the Babylon be to you. And there's a new article tonight or today, eight changes made by all female flight crews because again the airlines are trying to check boxes and they, you know, want to be representative and you know, let the girls have a chance. How can you have a female flight crew when nobody knows what the female is? Okay, go ahead, I'll just read you if there's a problem. If there's a problem with the plane, you should already know what it is,

and they're not going to tell you. Plane crashes will be avoided by the co pilot slamming her hands on the dash and screaming, oh my. And this is for women only. Yeah, this is all female flights men who identify as female? Does it work? That's that's another ball of wax in and of itself. Here's one more. What's another one? Here's one more. The crew will never hesitate to stop for directions. No silly masculine pride will keep them from landing in Des Moines to ask which way to Chicago?

With that? With that, our time is done here. I look forward to more of you in twenty twenty four caaring, Thank you so much, Thank you, Take care. It's a nightcap seven w LW. Is there a special time you like to listen to Scott Sloan? I listen at work because he's really cool and my job sucks. Oh. I like the way you think. I listened during a really hot, sudsy shower. Are you being serious? I listened to his podcast when I'm in church? Are you

allowed to do that? I like to listen when I'm on the toilet. All right, I listened during our marriage counseling session. I guess anytime is the right time for Sloaney. That's what we've been saying. Scott's loan tomorrow morning at nine on seven hundred WLW, and check out his podcast on the free iHeartRadio app. The music we listen to all year long. Yeah, on seven hundred WLW. On this MLK Junior Day, a national holiday.

There are only three people or individual persons who have holidays that we observe federally in this country, and one of them is doctor Martin Luther King. What is not brought up is the fact that doctor was well, he was a doctor of theology, and which that means he's a student of the Bible, just like his father was. And very little is made up or talked about as far as his time as a pastor as a reverend. We're going to

do that tonight with our friend Lee Habib. He's a columnist at Newsmax magazine. He's a vice president of content in Salem Media and host a weekly podcast and a syndicated show called Our American Stories. And Doctor Kings is certainly an American story. There's no question and no better time to tell. As Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story than on the day that is ascribed to his memory. Lee Habib, good evening, Welcome to the

Nightcap. Thanks for having me on. So I spit out all of that gibber jabber just at the top of my head. Sometimes sometimes I think that there ought to be some examination of what's inside this brain. But for another day. On this day, you make some great observations about Martin Luther King and who he actually was before the I have a dream speech before Selma.

You know, his time as a pastor, as a man of God, someone who taught the Bible, and related that to events going on present day and events that are still continuing all these years after Doctor King's death, his assassination in nineteen sixty eight, and the story that is not usually told. It's not part of the collective narrative. When we talk about doctor King,

we talk about the civil rights marches and the movement. We talk about the speech at the mall in Washington and the I have a dream speech and know about his assassination and what led up to that. But I think it's important if you're going to actually honor this man, to get the full story. And you have some great examples of that that I'd love for you to share

with us. Well, you know, I always sit down with our American stories, and you know every night we tell two hours worth of stories on the radio on podcasts, and we always start in our writer's room, in our producer's room. We have about eighteen contributors and sex full time people. Who is this person, who is his dad? How did he grow up? What shaped him? People don't spring from nowhere, and people who do

some things started somewhere. So where did it start? And my goodness, it started as a young boy listening to his father, who is a pastor at the church he would co pastor in Atlanta to the day he was assassinated. And by the way, his father was born Michael King, and Michael

King, the pastor named his son Michael King Junior. But when Michael King Senior went to Germany, Nazi Germany in nineteen thirty four, imagine that nineteen thirty four astors went there inspired by Bonnaffer, a terrific book by Erica Texas on this, this this Christian martyr urging the church to resist against this powerful dictator, that their their allegiance was to a higher dictator. I mean, imagine if the church had risen up against Hitler the way it could and should

have. But it bowed. Many Christians bowed to Hitler, and so they were over there for a trip. He was so overwhelmed, Martin Luther King's father by what he saw in this, in this home of Protestantism, and many of the pastors taking this chance with their lives and losing it, literally getting killed for their beliefs. And by the way, this is why totalitarians

hate Christians. They hate Christians because they don't bow to totalitarians. He comes back and he renames himself Martin Luther King Senior, and he renames his five year old son Martin Luther King Junior. I did not know even where he got his name. Is the Bible, then he here's sermons. When he's a kid. He studies the Bible, so that means he thinks the most important man of the twentieth century arguably thought the most important book in the world,

yesterday, today, and tomorrow was the Bible. And he believed that because he knew, and any of us who know and love the Bible know is that most of or many of our problems are spiritual in nature, and that our greatest enemy in the world is the guy or gal looking back at us in the mirror. Our biggest struggles are with our own minds, our own hearts, our own demons, our own angels. And King was here to talk about America's struggles with our own demons, and race was a demon

and it needed to be fixed. And think about how King did this. He at a time when Malcolm X was calling for the violence in the streets, was attacking white people as demons. Now, no King understood that slavery was a sin of the heart, and white people have enslaved people. Black people have enslaved people. Indians used to capture other Indian tribes and enslave them.

So King understood that the sins of this world, all humans suffered from the same sins, greed and envy and average and he was looking for America to rise up and for black people to set the standard of loving their neighbor, protesting with civil disobedience as opposed to blowing up the country and calling white people white white people white devils, and that all King wanted was for people to one day be seen through the content of the character and not the color

of their skin. And now what's interesting is you've got guys like Kenny doing the opposite, literally flipping King's script on its head and calling white people racists and black people innocence. And this sort of infuriated King because it's not true and it wasn't King's legacy. So I wanted to ask you too, Martin

Luther King. And much has been written about, obviously the civil rights things, but very little has been written about his belief in the Bible, his teaching of the Bible, his faith in God above all other powers, does it seem and the message of civil disobedience particularly seemingly was poignant again to me during the period of the intense COVID lockdowns and breakdowns and the mask mandates and

the you know, the six feet of separation. Now that they even Fauci, one of the architects of that particular COVID restriction, saying, well, it just kind of appeared out of nowhere. There was no basis for it. There was a basis for Martin Luther King's arguments now. Indeed, in fact, if everybody wants to know the real basis, read letters from a Birmingham jail. You know, he grew up at a time were his fi

a senior pastor. We'd be walking down the street and a young white boy would walk past him, and it was essentially a cultural norm for the elder man to call a fourteen year old boy sir, and the fourteen year old boy to call this pastor and man of dignity, boy. And this became

a cultural norm, and it was bad and it was wrong. And King felt that sting of discrimination, but he used or sublimated that anger through prayer to do the right thing and march peacefully and beautifully and catch the conscience of the nation. A spectacular thing. What happened to us during COVID, what shocked me most was that more pastors and more Christians, more synagogue, more folks than synagogues, more folks than mosques. Didn't say we answered to a

higher power. Our first Amendment right is to practice our law, practice our faith, and We're going to our churches, were going to our synagogues, were going to our mosques. Arrest us. By the way, the George Floyd protesters went right to the streets during COVID and March. They didn't ask for permission. They lived their faith. Those folks, they lived their faith. And most of them were peaceful. Some of them were the Malcolm X types, blowing the place up, burning it up. They were really bad.

And I do believe the protests were mostly peaceful, but it only takes five percent of a crowd to ruin a peaceful rally, and there they were. I believe that about nine to eleven January January six, most of the people were just wandering around. They weren't They didn't come with bombs, they didn't come with Molotov cocktails. They were there to represent their interests. The worst they should have gotten ninety percent of them was a trespassing fine. And

then the bad ones who used force broke windows. Well, you know there's a price to pay for doing that at the nation's capital or anywhere else, any other federal building. So it was archilovet king is that he was not only a countercultural figure, but in the sense. He was a counter he was a spiritual figure in an age where many people were beginning to think God was dead. Tell Leehabier is our guest from our American Stories and talking about

Martin Luther King on his day in America. Tell the story about the friend at Midnight parable that Jesus told that Martin Luther King weaved into a sermon, and what it actually means, well, you know, if you could, you know what I love is. King's words are so remarkable, And you know there's a scene Jesus Christ parable and a friend of midnight is in the

Gospel of Luke, And these are the words. Which of you has a friend who will go to him at midnight and say to him, friend, lend me three loaves, for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him. So King starts with scripture, and he's starting with scripture for thousands of years old. But then he's applying it to the to the present, and he's asking where are you when

someone comes knocking at the door at midnight? Then he's then he switches to it's midnight in the Moral Order of America, and he switches to this metaphor of midnight, and these are the words that really hit me and struck. Yeah, he King says, moral principles have lost their distinctiveness for modern man, absolute right and wrong or matter of what the majority is doing right wrong, relatives delights Guy A Lee, I'm sorry. You hate to interrupt.

You're kind of bubbling up there on the on the the call. Uh So, I'm sorry because this is important. This is yeah, this is a better but but this is the crux of what the point you were making, So please continue h the difference between uh, right and wrong being dictated by what's popular. Yeah. And then there's King going straight in there. Right and wrong a relative to likes and dislikes and the customs of a particular community.

We have unconsciously applied Einstein's theory of relativity, which properly describes the physical universe, to the moral and ethical realm. This mentality has brought a tragic breakdown of moral standards, and the midnight of maral degeneration deepens. So here's King talking not just about white people or black people. He's talking about something

he's sensing in America itself, a moral degeneration. And and and you know, this is not what you would expect from a from a pop leader, let alone a political leader, because in the end, being always started with the moral universe, the spiritual universe, and the world of God and not the world of man. Well, and the thing is the Word of God. He was a minister, he was a pastor, and then that's that's

the job. If you're not going to lead your flock astray, you you you begin and you in with the scriptures, with the Word of God, and then show how it relates to everyday life as we are we are still here on this in this life, on this rock a dealing with one another. But he starts with so I would say from from that standpoint, sounds like he was a pretty good preacher. He was an amazing preacher. In fact, listen to a very last speech the night before. Here's a speech,

but the speech has sermon like qualities, including beginning with scripture. And in this particular particular speech, he starts with a good Samaritan and he talks about how he and his wife went to the Jericho Road because they wanted to understand why some didn't help this stranger and some did and one did. And then after explaining why he thought that was and having taken that walk himself,

that it was a dangerous road, and maybe that was a trap. Maybe the guy was pretending to be heard, but kings that which one of you will be the person who helps, which one of you will be the one who walks by. That's what great pastors do, It's what great coaches do. They asked for more from us, not less of us. They don't tell us what we want to hear. They're not selling us soaper, cigarettes or candy. They're actually selling our eternity. They're selling our better angels to

us. And this is what King was doing to the end, and the night before he's assassinated, taught, He's taught and only talking to his audience. He's challenging his audience to be better versions of themselves. So I guess the point overall you're making is that people see through the lens and what's projected about Martin Luther King that he was merely a civil rights leader, or it was all about race, and it was all about slavery or Jim Crow or

segregation. It was about something much more. And it always was with Martin Luther. Oh it was, and again. Read letters from Birmingham Jail, and you'll know that it wasn't just about segregation. It was about so much more and what God had in stored for all of us, and how God wanted us to live together. How he wanted us to live together is equals, not as blacks, not as whites. God didn't see us that way.

He's too big to see us that way. Leave it to humans to divide ourselves among such superficial things as race or class or gender or any of these things. It's God's view he was trying to share with us. And that's what when you step into the Bible, as old as it is, you'll see yourself in those stories. If you read it, you oh help not see yourself. Every time I hear a good sermon, I tend to see myself, and I don't always like what I see. Lee, No,

I don't either. And you know, we have the Freedom Center here in Cincinnati, and it's right there on the river between the stadiums, and I wonder, and I'll confess I've never been inside, but I think I'm gonna go. And I would challenge any of you listening tonight to if you've never been to the Freedom Center. See what they say about doctor Martin Luther King Junior, and see if they include, you know, the Bible and his his Biblical teachings, not just the I Have a Dream speech or you

know, the the Selma March or anything like that. Yet, see if the Bible is included in their depiction of a truly great man lea bean so important, so important, great And I'd love to hear what happens from that. Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely. I got your number, I'll call you. I'll give you an update. Uh, and you can see our American Stories? Is that? Is that on YouTube? What? How is that? Idea? Guest? Just it's on Apple podcasts. iHeart podcast wherever

you get your podcasts? All right, iHeart radio podcast Our American Stories? And uh, what are you working on right now? Going past doctor King for the next Star mirrorge? Oh my goodness, I'm doing one of my favorites right now. The day that Dale Earnheart died, he died, uh jen he was he his nickname was the Intimidator. On this day that he

dies at Daytona, his two teammates are ahead of him. One is his son and one is Michael Waltrip and he is in his final lapse, playing the role of protector, and playing the role of protector, he's bumped from behind and dies. And then we go backwards to who was this man, who was Dale Earnhardt, and not only how he died, but who he was and how he lived and why he lived the way he lives. And we do so many stories like this each and every day on the show.

Oh, I'm looking forward to hearing that myself. Thank you so much, Leo Beibe. It's a great treasure. Thank you. You got it. It's the night Cap and it continues on seven hundred WLW. If you're in Hardy, Kentucky, there's the McCoy family Cemetery which is owned by a Hatfield. But unless you can prove you're a blood relation, you are not allowed in darn it. But you can always listen to the seven hundred WLW live stream wherever you are on the iHeartRadio app. Do you know how much one

thousand dollars in coins weigh? We're willing to join us again to talk about tech stuff from interest. I t the mayor of Fort Wright, Kentucky, and my friend Dave Hatter to talk tech for a little while here on the night cap. Uh, let's start with uh something that just sounds so orwelly and wait, we might as well just dive right in with uh with our with our with our strollers. Wearable technology for babies claims to give parents peace of mind. Were so, what is this a fit bit for babies or

what what's going on with this? Dave? And by the way, good evening, get happy New Year. Well thanks scared Jeff, Happy new to you and all your listeners. And yeah, I mean you're you got the right sort of hunch. Basically, Uh, it's a device you can put

on your infant. And you know, as a parent, now I'm none of my kids or anywhere close to the stage what as a parent, I can remember the days of having the like Fisher Price baby monitor saying, you know, it was radio frequency, but you can listen in make sure the kid was all right. And this is sort of taken that to the next

level. What's the problem? Like, you know, so much of what we see today with these Internet of things or so called smart devices is you know, connects to the Internet, which generally means it's going to be a privacy and security dumpster. Fire. But yeah, you actually put this on your kid's foot, and then theoretically it's given you vitals and given you some

idea into how they're sleeping and that sort of thing. And you know, I think the first question you have to ask yourself is would you want this, you know, relatively sensitive health information captured about your toddler and sent off to some company over the internet. You know, what are they going to do with it? How are they going to protect it? How long will

they store it? And I think you know my answer to this already, not a chance I would by right, Yeah, Well, you know what I know as you're talking about is I'm sorry terrupt, But as you're talking about this, I've seen I don't have any babies myself, but I've seen plenty of infinites and and and you say this fits around their foot. I've seen babies put their their toes in their mouth. I have seen that plenty

of Is there anheaded danger of them swallowing the technology? Well, you know, I haven't seen this thing, so I don't know how big it is or exactly how it's attached to that sort of thing, but I think that's

something you'd have to at least consider. And it's interesting because and I may not get the name right, but like the American Association of Pediatricians, some medical group that you know deals with children, has basically come out against this device and said that, you know, they're concerned with things like, well, maybe parents would be more complacent as a result of this, because they

think the device itself of giving them some extra security. You know, I get to things like kids and why parents would would want this, But I understand their arguments. But my you know, my argument is a little different. It's that some much of these so called smart devices or privacy and security dumpster fires. They're rush to market securities and afterthought at best. And as I already mentioned, you not only have to worry about the information that's collected

about your child and who where does that go? But also it's this thing's connected to your network, How is it secured? How do you set it up right? How does it get updates? How long will they do updates for it? You know, could hackers leverage that to get to your other devices and then potentially steal your money or break into your organization and steal their money. And the answer to all those things is certainly within the remal possibility,

because we continuously see how these Internet of Things devices are hacked. So yeah, I can tell you again, I don't have any kids that are the right aid for this. But there's not a chance I would buy something like this at this point. And just as a general rule of thumb, Gary, Jeff, you know, I'm generally anti Internet of things devices, and especially the first generation of any Internet thing. It's always no chance I

would buy business. Yeah, I would be uh. I would be probably more likely, say, for example, to take a vaccine that had been tested over ten or fifteen years rather than one that you know, was rolled out fifteen minutes ago. Same kind of thing, right, Dave. Yeah, I mean look at look at the first version of anything, A new car, a new computer. Oh, I got it, I got it, I got it. I got a great story. I got a great story. My wife and I both own Hyundai's and we like the cars.

They're a little bit over engineered, you know. But I got one of the first Hyundais that came out in America in nineteen eighty six. And let me tell you what a piece of crap that was. It was. It was one of the questions. One of the worst cars I've ever done. It was brand new and this stuff was popping off, like within the first couple of weeks of me drive of buying the car. So yes, the first version of everything is you want to wait for the second batch of waffles,

There's no question. Yeah, it's funny. You know. I've had several hun Days along the way as well, and gen we speaking had been pretty good cars, but all of mine have been within the last ten or fifteen years. You know, they're not to the really early version. But anyway, I didn't mean to disrupt you, but it just reminded me of having one of the first Hundays that was available in the United States from Korea, and what a piece of crap it was. Yeah, I don't think

I would have bought one of those. I hear you, But I got you off track, and I apologize for that. Let's talk about the Let's talk about the twenty twenty four Cees, the International Cees in Las Vegas that just concluded on Friday, and what was rolled out there and what are the dangerous things that you saw as far as new technology that is being pushed in this venue. So CS is the Consumer Electronics Show. It held every year generally in Vegas, and you know, you could see all kinds of cool

tech if you're into that sort of thing. But you know, you already know I'm generally biased against all this Internet of things stuff because, as we just recently said, it's usually rush to market. It's not designed to be secure in private. Generally, it's designed to be easy to use in first

to market. So you know, when you look at the trade off between how can I make something that's easy to use and fast the market versus how can I make this a better you know, privacy orient orientation and security orientation, you almost always end up with privacy and security dumpster fire, as we see over and over again with so many of these devices that are readily hacked, and even if they're not, even if they're not, I don't don't

remember if we talked about this recently or not. There was a recent study they looked at smart TVs and found that most of the major smart TV manufact won't put out updates for the software and the TV that provides the so called smart capability for more than two years. So my point is not so much to hammer on smart TVs it's that whatever sort of smart device you have, the software in it needs to be maintained by the software vendor, just like

your updates to your phone or your computer. And if not, eventually the bad guys are going to find holes in it, and they're going to attack these devices, which potentially give them access to your other devices, your personal information, or even your organization. So again, lots of potential problems with these things, which is why I don't like them. But the AP put out an article which I think is very interesting, and there's a great website

out there. Mozilla, the people that make the Firefox browser, which is generally one of the more privacy friendly browsers out there, have a site called Privacy Not Included, and it's all about these Internet of Things devices and issues

with privacy. But thep this story, here's the headline. It's great there and death here are the worst in show CEES products according to consumer and privacy advocates and basically a group of fairly well known privacy experts, people like the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which are well known in this space consumer reports, and then an organization called I Fix It, which is big in the right to repair digital rights space because you know so much of the stuff that you get

now, like your car, or you may recall John Deere. It's been a big thing with John Deere. You know, you get a John Deere tractor, it's got all this so called smart stuff in it, especially a computer on wheels, and they tell you you can't fix it because it's their intellectual property. So make a long story short. They called out some things that were especially agreed just on a privacy front. Here they took BMW to

task, specifically for their partnership with Amazon and Amazon's Alexa product. Again, I think you know, I'm not a fan of Alexa or any of these smart assistance that by design must be listening to you at all times in order to know when you utter the wake word, right, it has to be

listening to you in order to do what it's supposed to do. And the thing they point out here, which is an interesting take, I'm not sure I would I have thought of this myself, is say, being able to ask electa to unlock the front door, turn off the porch lights sounds convenient, but what are's voiced by by a violent X and then quote, We've seen an increasing number of horrific stories where people, generally women who are trying

to escape abusing domestic situations, end up having their car service tracking and abuse vectors. I know someone personally who's had this problem where someone slipped an Apple air tag into her car and was using it to track her. So when these when these things sometimes sounds you know, fantastical and some sort of science fiction, it's not. Sadly, these kinds of things are really happening.

You know, BMW tries to come back. They call out some very well, in my opinion, very expensive three hundred dollars earbuds from Sennheiser, which is a company that makes stereo equipment type stuff, and they talk about how, you know, basically it takes three separate batteries around these, there's no way to replace them, so probably in a year or two they're not going to work anymore. They talk about one of my favorite topics, Scarry Jeff.

You know, I have been against these robotic vacuum sweepers for a long time, not because there's anything inherently wrong with the idea of a robotic vacuum sweeper, but because they're basically spine machines. If you look at Rumba, which is you know, Amazon bought that brand. There are numerous examples because they continue to enhance the capability of the roomba with things like light ar and

cameras and microphones and so forth. Supposedly because and that this is well known that a room book, you come home from work, you got a dog. It ran through the pile of dog dew and drug it all over the house. And there's some pretty funny videos out there of that. Right,

yeah, thanks, thanks for cleaning my house rumba. Yes, exactly, you get the exact opposite of what you expect, right, But you know, with a camera and other types of sensors, you could oftensibly tell that that is not a pile of socks, it's a pile of something else and avoid it. But it also means that it can map your house and determine things like, oh, look, you don't have a couch in this room. Maybe Amazon should sell you a couch. It could also again map your

whole house, know what you have, what you don't have. Who has access to that data? But the most egregious thing, and I'm not making this up, people can go see for themselves. Some of these newer devices have basically, you know, taken pictures of people in the bathroom and that sort of thing, which then somehow make it out onto the Internet. But according to the cybersecurity Worst in Show, it's a China based and there's your

first problem. China based robot vacuum maker Ecovacs. Now again it's a similar tool room book, got a camera, got a microphone, lightar voice wrack, ignition, computer vision. And you know this is something coming from China, from our friends in the Chinese Communist Party who control all of these companies. Think of the information that could collect about your house. It could listen to you, it could videotape you, it would map your entire house,

it knows everything you have. I mean, it's just completely insane. So and if they've got some other things in here, I know we're going to run out of time, but it's worth taking a look at that. And I would just remind people, a you're better off if you avoid these Internet of Things devices in general, but be if you really feel like you have to buy one, then I want to encourage you to check out Mozilla's Privacy

not included. You can just search on that. You'll find it easily because there's some great guidance there, and also consumer reports have some good insight into this for guidance about what sort of Internet of things products are more privacy and friendly. So yeah, crazy stuff there. Let's talk about cryptocurrency just for a minute or two, Dave, if you've got time, Yeah, go

ahead. Stephen Rhys Lewis was introduced to investors of a crypto fund with an impressive list of qualifications and achievements, but no organization so far can find any record of him before this. Now, this is out of Australian investigation last month revealed thousands of people lost millions of dollars to the hyperverse cryptos scheme, which was promoted by Australian entrepreneur Sam Lee and his business partner Ryan z zoo

Shoe. Rather, two of the founders of the collapse to Australian bitcoin company Blockchain Gold Global. So was hyperverse like following Blockchain Global and people still wanted to invest because Blockchain Global had collapsed. And I just unsort this for me for a minute. Well, I'm not super knowledgeable about this particular story other than the fact that it appears the CEO of this organization never existed, which really kind of speaks to where we're at with you know, the ability to

spoop things and deep fakes and AI as such. You know, unfortunately, these crypto schemes keep coming up. And while I am a fan of cryptocurrency, bitcoin in particular, because it's by far the most well known and most reputable out there, and you know, there are others that have gotten some attention over time monarrow. So if you're you're interested in crypto, you know, Bitcoin is definitely the safest place to be. And I would consider all

these things speculative. Okay, so keep that in mind while I'm saying this, I'm not a financial advisor. Don't take my financial advice. Again, I consider all these things, you know, speculative blocker. Bitcoin is by far the most well known and most reputable of the bunch. If you put money into any of these new things that come up, you are very very much taking significant risk when you do that. And that's why I think this

story is so interesting. You know, after this thing collapsed and people started to dig into it some more, despite the fact that you know, this guy supposedly had this impressive background, despite the fact that high level, well known people came out and supported this. It appears that the whole thing was

spoofed, possibly deep fakes. It's a wild, wild story. The Guardian did a big peace on it. I would encourage people to look into this because even if you take the crypto piece out of the carriage yet it really speaks to where we're at with the possibility of synthetic media and the more nefarious version of a deep fake, and the ability to create someone from hohl cloth, create a whole history of a person, possibly create audios, video,

you know, writings and so forth from this person using readily available and low cost tools, and you know, essentially create something that seems very authentic to authentic. Sorry, I can't talk today, Gari. Authentic. Authentic is the word I'm yes, thank you. Authentic is the word I'm looking for

to drive these frauds and you know, steal your money. So again, I'm a fan of cryptocurrency in general, but you need to move very carefully, especially in any space that's not bit going, and you need to try to bet these things carefully because as you do, you really dig into this story, you'll see people lost a lot of money and it appears that the CEO of this organization is not a real person. Uh you know, well,

I created from unlike Unlike this CEO. You have a great you have a great deal of authenticity and that's why I have you on the show day. Thank you so much, and we'll talk to you soon, I hope. All right. Always my pleasure. You've got a Dave Hadter with us as we get ready to wrap this puppy up tonight seven hundred w l W. Who's the man loves having fun? Willie? Who's the man asking questions? You'd ask Willy? Who's the man ready to take down evil with his

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