The Gary Jeff Walker Show -- 105/08/23

We come to the night cat on seven LWD Nation station blasting out across as Russia. Lamba used to say the fruited planes. I love Rush, still love Russia anyway. Tonight is a very special night for me personally because it's the only nightcap I have this month outside of being with you from nine to midnight on Memorial Day night that's at the end of the month. But let's

focus on tonight. A great show, a very unusual show in that I have for the first time Art Volo, who is a guy who was inspired back in nineteen seventy seven by watching a video of a disc jockey in the studio on the air to create this entire video business where he goes around and does video air checks of people like me. Now, people like me should never be on TV. That's why we're on the radio and not on television. But it is interesting, especially for somebody in the business like me,

to watch other people work their craft. I'm glad you're not seeing me now. I didn't really dress for it, but Art Volo will be at a lunch, kind of lunch that I was at a couple of weeks ago and have been Privy two and privileged and honored to be at where other radio people get together, mostly retired folks. These guys Art has assembled are some of the biggest names in the country. You may not know them listening to WLW,

but you will, I think, be interested in our conversation. I know I'm chomping at the bit to get to what that'll come later this hour. Also, Todd Benzman, my friend from the Center from Immigration Studies, is with us, and as you know, in just two days, Title forty two officially ends. When it comes to immigration in this country, we're already drowning. We're already overrun by illegal immigrants from all over the globe, not just Mexico, not just South America or Central but from all over the

globe. We do not know who about ninety five percent of them are, and it's a threat to our country's continuance, to its continuing existence. So Todd Benzman with an update. Also, Dan was, our Second Amendment guy, will join us to talk about not only the rash of mass shootings,

but what should be done about it from a Second Amendment proponents perspective. And I think it's good to get that perspective because all you get from the politicians is the divisive politics of taking people's guns away god given rights guaranteed by our United States Constitution. Because they think that's going to solve the problem. It's not. Dan Was will be here to explain in just a few Karen Cataline's

back. One of our favorite all time guests on the Nightcap, Vincent Edward Ellison, an interesting guy born as a sharecropper's son on a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee, and he's one of the leading voices of conservatism in the black community. Dave Hadder with an I update and of course the fur Bowl a night before he undergoes hip surgery. We hope all go We pray

all goes well for Andy tomorrow when he goes under the knife. We'll talk about his numerous fears and anxieties, which I mean he has those with a hangnail. That's all on the Nightcap tonight, and I hope you'll stick around for the balance of the program. And remember after midnight the podcast should be

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Right now, mention me Bill Cunningham fifty bucks off your next airduct Cleanning used to promo code air fifty air fifty when scheduling online zero a sinc dot com. What if you could be credit card debt free and ten days and save as much as I now joining us from the Center for Immigration Studies, A guy who knows more about the southern border than majorcas Kamala Harris, and I don't know every other government official put together, including members of Congress. His

name is Todd Benzman. He's also the author of the latest book on this true crisis on our American's borders called Overrun. And we're watching that play out in real time right now and in wells less than two days. It's going to get even worse, if that's possible. Todd Benzman, Good evening, and welcome to the night Cap. Good to be here, Thanks for having

me again. Yeah. So title forty two ends at midnight on Wednesday or Thursday morning, whatever, the eleventh, right, right, And and that's that's what what that means is that a Trump era of policy which we're turning people away, some people away as soon as they got to border, before they could even ask for asylum, they were turning them away and heading them back where they came from. And that is going to end. We have already according to the reports I've seen, Todd, and you can correct me

if I'm wrong. I know you will. You've got the real information here that the surge has been absolutely incredible. It was bad before, it's been incredible the last week before title forty two even ends. Tell me what's going on and why is it just too much for us to handle, right, So the replacement policy for Title forty two is really the problem that is going

to be. You might as well get used to hearing this. If you're interested in the border Title eight, we'll be hearing Title eight expedited removal. The administration is talking about Title eight as though it's something that Donald Trump would do. But the truth is that there are so many loopholes punched into this thing that most categories of immigrants that tested on May twelfth, Thursday, Friday Saturday should find that they would be released right into the United States and not

be removed expeditiously. I'm an asylum claim. The asylum claim will get them in, not out. And that's the key thing to watch for in the coming days is will they be Everybody, all the immigrants are going to be watching this. I'm watching this, the government is watching this. Will they be released into the interior? I believe that they will be released into the interior because I've read all the fine print and studied the fine print polsty documents.

It looks like in the days after May eleven, there should be very substantial new surges of the immigrants pouring fruit to take advantage of the releases. The release, that's really what this is all about. Will we get in or will we be sent back? And if we're getting in, we're all coming. And I believe that they're going to be getting in seeing especially families, Yeah, and unaccompanied miners. You'll be seeing the kid thing. To show up with a kid here, it's a golden ticket. You'll be seeing

really even single adults without kids also probably being leased in large numbers. Two. Well, we saw just recently, of course the thrice deported or maybe four times deported, um not a not a citizen the United States, I haven't have been thrown out of the country three or four times, was responsible for that mass murder of that family in Texas. What do we know? Do we know more about that? I know they apprehended him, but well,

you know they how does he stay in the country. Well, he stays in the country because he happened to have been living in the largest illegal immigrant community in America, in a region it's an oldiest Texas, in a in a colonia that federal officials and immigration officials will not dare tread. So he was able to buy land and have a house and wife and kid there even though he had been deported a bunch of times. It was a criminal.

Uh So, the problem is when you have mass my crisis like this and numbers like this, people have to go somewhere and they set up communities like this just forty miles north of Houston and find safe haven there. And that's what happened. There are lots of cartels active in that seventy five thousand strong community of illegal immigrants, lots of heinous crimes that have already happened there that never got any media like this one. I'm not sure why this one

got media attention. There's way worse than that happening in that colonia, but I think I'm the only one who's written about it where it's even talked about the fact that there's this massive, the biggest in America illegal alien community right there that protected him. So post from the New York Post that you sent

me recently from Dayline Warrez, Mexico. Venezuelans one of the highest volume immigrant nationalities who have crossed the southern border during this mass migration crisis, with five million four in national five million four in nationals border crossers in the country five million just from Venezuela. How are they doing this and how are they scamming the asylum system? Todd, Well, no, let me just correct you

there. It's about three hundred thousand Venezuelans total of five million that have been okay. But having said that, Venezuelans often are thought of as fleeing a really terrible place, you know, sure, a cleptocracy, a communist cleptocracy with a collapsed economy. But the truth is is that these aren't coming from Venezuela and haven't lived there in years. They're coming from safe, prosperous third countries where they've been living for years and years and decided to come now because

all their friends and relatives were being so like, why not upgrade? And my point is that the Venezuelans by large are committing asylum fraud or fraud on other federal papers and documents and in statements to federal officers that they are in dire need of humanitarian protection when they're telling me and interviews, recorded interviews about how happy they were, how much they love their adopted countries of Ecuador or

Argentina, you know, some of these other countries where they've been living for many years, it's just a chance to upgrade to you know, move a couple notches up, get a piece of the famed American lifestyle. And if they have to tell a few white lies about asylum that they need asylum or politically persecuted somewhere, so be it. And we we're not policing that process in any way at all. We're accepting nine percent of all applicants for humanitarian

permission slips. And I just wanted to point that out because Venezuelans. You're going to be seeing a lot of Venezuelans on your TV screen. You already have been. They are one of the largest groups of foreign nationals that you'll see down They're coming in, but they're not coming from Venezuela. They're not escaping the communist regime. They've already escaped the communist regime. And now now they want some of the freebies that the US government is handing out. Yes,

that's exactly it, and they're going to get in. They're already getting it. Well, isn't part of todd isn't part of the welcome mat that's been thrown out by this administration have been out for a while, just never this blatantly big. As far as as I mentioned the government freebees, the social safety net system that we have in place in this country, which is absurd and obese all on its own, without welcoming people from all corners of

the globe in to enjoy it, to ransack it. But isn't that part of the problem too, with all of the social services that we have in this country available, that we're just giving out willy nilly to people who aren't citizens, it's a very very powerful part of the problem. We give everything we give these people we fell every need, free, medical, school, housing, clothing, shelter, food, money, everything, and they all

know it. That's why they're coming. When the City of New York complains about all the injuries coming to New York, they don't stop, seem to stop for a minute to consider that they're putting them all up in five star hotels. Yeah, what do you think is gonna what do you think is going to happen? They're gonna send selfies back and say, God, look what's happening. Right, You guys got to get here as soon as you

can. This is great. When the streets are paved with gold and you know, so that's part of the problem is that you know, we are parrolling them in for their illegal act, and then they get everything and send back word and everybody's comes for it, and all they have to do is just say the right combination of lines with the border, and they're in and nobody cares. And by the way, you're right, this is this is kind of an old story. This has been happening for two and a half

years now. I've been going on your program now for two and a half years. Your listeners are probably better informed in the vast majority of the country. But what's different about the end of title forty two is that the regular media, for some reason, is now covering it. Like NBC is doing stuff, what CNN is down in Elcastle, like ABC, the New York Times actually is writing stories about this thing. And I can't tell you why. For two and a half years, they're suddenly writing about this like it's

some news story. God, I have a theory. I have a theory about that, Todd. I believe the reason they're finally covering it is because the problem is too big to be ignored. People are finding out about it without them, and with Biden's poll numbers at such dramatic lows and a new election cycle is coming. The mainstream media networks who've been all in the tank for Joe Biden and these policies or lack thereof of policies, lack of enforcement

of our immigration laws. They don't want to be the last ones off the ship, so they are jumping ship now and reporting on what's actually going on, which was their job in the first place. That's what I think. Now, that's as good analysis as on a heard me all right. I couldn't believe that I saw c ann doing report on like they were. The reporter was in the middle of a huge job. I'll passo saying oh my god, look at this, Look what's happening. I've been down and doing

that way for years. I know you've been covering this, like you said, for at least the last two and a half years on this program, and I hope that you can join us again for that. We are appreciative and grateful and keep your eye on what's going on, and I know it's getting more and more insane every day. The book is overrun. The author is Todd Benzman, who works for the Center for Immigration Studies. You can find out the latest news and many different posts, but also cis dot org.

Todd, thank you so much and have a pleasant evening. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. You bet Todd Binzman Tonight on the night Camp News just ahead, and then a big confab of radio greats. I've always loved radio, That's why I'm doing this now. But some of the big names coming up in just a few on seven hund WLW News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred wls W Cincinnati. Gas prices dropping big time. This is the nine thirty report. I'm Matt Reese breaking now good news as

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have just an ordinary mom in your life. She's the best. Her work never stops, her sacrifice. It's now when I finally got the chance to connect with the guests. Who was going to introduce some other guests are Art Volo. I didn't know that he was really Radio's best friend. I'd heard

his name for years as being Radio's best friend. Back in nineteen seventy seven, Art Volo inspired by Shotgun Tom Kelly and a video he'd made at KFMB and San Diego of the disc jockey actually in the studio a video air check, and then inspired Art Volo to start Volo Videos. And he's been chronicling the grates of radio in their environment, in their in their habitat now for many decades. And he's got a bunch of friends. Earlier today I talked

to Art and his friends. They were at a lunch gathering, a bunch of Detroit radio grates. Art Volo, Good evening, Welcome to the night Cap, Hey, Gary, Jeff. It's an honor to be on the Big one, seven hundred wl W. And I'm here with a bunch of radio people. And the first guy I'm gonna let you talk to you for just a moment is his name is Doug Podell. He's known as the Doctor Rocky Dot, doc of rock. It's great to have you on the air.

Where did you spend the majority of your time? Where where would people most notably know Doug Podel, the doc of rock? From which station? Well it would be wrif I'm an album rock guy. So I started with the progressive rock stations back in the mid seventies like ABX and W four. I was in Cleveland for a little while at w nCX, and then WRIF came calling. So I'm back home in Detroit and I've been here, you know, ever since. So it's been a thirty plus year radio career.

But there's no question about it. Art is radio's best friend, because they're all here today. There's no doubt about that. So good place is jam back with radio people and it's a lot of fun. So dog tell me, are you still on the air, Then yes, I am. I'm on the air here on what's called Detroit's Wheels one oh six point seven w l LZ. So I gotta tell you the second round for me. I was on the original Wheels in the eighties and then they brought it back and

they came and got me. So I'm pretty proud. Well that's fantastic. Here you're among a bunch of other radio greats. So let's pass the phone around. I'm want to pass you around, all right, Okay, we'll talk to you back to Art. All right, all right, let me bring out we're here to a guy who is at the station that's as powerful as the one we're on right now in Cincinnati, and that's Kevin O'Neill. Hello, Gary, Kevin O'Neill. What what radio station are you on w

j R. Yes, I am Gary. I'm on in the afternoon with Mitch Album the Mitch Album Show. Oh yeah, of course, very famous author and writer. And that's the same thing, I guess. And uh hey, we do a great show every afternoon. We do a lot of fun stuff. I write all the song parodies we do and we have a good time. So yeah, we gotta keep these fifty thousand watch stations going. Gary, This is a we can't let these stations die. They're great radio stations. Yeah, well, do you know tell the folks in your

state of Michigan to keep putting AM radios in their new cars. How about that? I hope, I hope so. And God bless you. It was so good to get chance to talk with you, and quickly I wanted to ask you one thing. Since you have been at w j R all these years, how well did you know the late Ernie Harwell, the Tiger's proct I met him a few times, Gary, and I will say this about him from the bottom of my heart. I don't believe I've ever met a nicer person. He was just wonderful and on air, off air,

he couldn't do enough for his fellow of human beings. He was that nice of a person. So I feel honored that I did get a chance to meet him a few times. Yeah, well, Kevin, a pleasure. Keep up the good work with Mitch album and to keep writing those music parodies. I love music parodies. I've written a few. I've written a few of myself, probably not as well as you. I'll get your email address from Art and I'll send you a few of mine. Gary. That'd be

fun. It'd be fun. Thanks Kevin, Yes, sir, have a great night, you too, Yeah, Gary, he did one just on the coronation to the tune of England Swings like a pendulum do the old.

Yes, it was absolutely brilliant. And I'm going to send that to you and next up and by the way, we're saving some of the biggest for last year, um coming up. But right now, Tom Ryan, who I met when he was answering the request lines in the switch at the switchboard or whatever at Keener at thirteen back in the sixties here in Detroit, and Tom is a very close friend and a voice guy for Dick Purton, who of course will be coming on in a moment an x of w SAI back

in the old days and yeah, so Dry, Hey, how are you doing? So? You were at WSAI at thirteen sixty right, No, no, no, no, no no. Dick came from ws I'm sorry, and that's when we met when he was in Detroit, and we worked together for seventeen years. We were at Keener and then we went to w

x y Z and then our final stop together was at c KLW. Um I did the voices and it was just the two of us in those days, and of course when Dick moved on, he had to hire such or seven people to do what I did for well, you know, another Cincinnati radio legend was also in Detroit for many years, actually in Windsor at c KALW named Gary Burbank, who's now of course retired. Yeah sure, but the very talented, the incredible Radio Hall of Famer Gary Burbank shares something.

It's kind of like the bridge from c KLW to WLW tonight, and having you on is kind of part of that as well. So it's very cool to talk to you. Well, thank you very much. And I'm not one of the last guys, so he didn't Art didn't save the biggest to last. Well, thanks, lod, I appreciate talking to hey. Thanks for letting us interrupt lunch. This is fun. These are these are the radio grade. These are the These are the radio grads in the Detroit area.

And I have been privy to being in amongst radio grates here in Cincinnati at these lunch and mostly retired legendary broadcasters like Gary Burbank. Marty Brennaman, the Hall of Fame broadcaster, was there at the last one. I just saw Marty here at the studio because he still does some stuff for seven Hunter w l W course the voice of the Reds for you know, forever. And Jim Jim Scott and who worked all over the country as well, and

Jim La Barbara the music professor. So that was that was quite a group here in town. Well, you know, Gary, just a moment ago you were mentioning Gary Burbank, Well, I've got standing next to me just before our last act, believe it or not, Jojo Shutting McGregor, and she will tell you what she did, and she was a very close friend of Gary Burbank. You, Hi, Hey, how are you doing Gary? I'm great, Joejoe, how are you well? Listen? This is

a real privilege to be talking to you. But I had the privilege to be working with Gary Burbank, who was a wild and wacky, wonderful guy to wake up to wall. I was trying to be on the air, in the air in my traffic helicopter. So when Gary came to Seakalew, he was the top banana, he was the morning mouth. And here came Jojo to join the Sea Kalew crew. I was part of the news department of Seakalw and I became the first female helicopter news and traffic reporter in North

America, the first in North America. In North America that includes the fifty thousand wats that beamed into twenty eight states and six Canadian provinces. And of course I was American. My late husband, Byron McGregor, I'm sure you remember that name, was the guy who interviewed sixty two people and I was the last one to be interviewed. And I only got the job eventually, I got the guy. It was a twenty two. It was a twenty

two man news department. But think about it, who did a traffic watch never mind on the ground, but in the air in a helicopter for a top forty station. For Byron to have that kind of insight, He said to her McCord, you know, with their other stations, her McCord was our general manager. Other stations already doing a traffic watch. We need to do that in Detroit. It's some otor city. We have the second largest freeway system, second only to LA in New York, and there's no mass

transit. So let's put a chapper up. And so we did. And I was that voice in the midst of twenty two deep voice men in the news department. You know, twenty twenty news. It was legendary in its own way. And I got to work. You know, everybody that's here, including the gentleman standing behind me, is Dick Curtain. He's coming up. He's your last guy on this show them he saved the Vestal last.

But you know, in my position, I've worked at many stations in addition to skalew and I've had a chance to work with the Tom Ryans and the Kevin O'Neil, and then J. P. McCarthy's and I'm WITHP Dick, and of course I've done radio and TV, but I am so thrilled that our guy, our bolo can keep us together. And it's a real honor and privilege to be talking to you and doing the interview. And Garry's in

town. He's in Cincinnati, so he'll be listening tonight. We all will fantastic, fantastic Jojo shutting McGregor from c KALW and Detroit, the first female, the first female helicopter TRAVERCK reporter in North America. This is such a gas guys. All right, So so who we got next? All right? Well we say like we said, the best trial last and Gary Jeff this is the infamous. Now, when he was in Cincinnati, he was known as Paul Curtain because he I think was on after there, right after

Dick Wagner, so he was Paul Curtin. When he came to Detroit, he was on just before Paul Cannon, so he had dropped the Paul and you'd be Dick Burton, which he was for forty five years. And Garry is the legend. Uh, thank you? Who the hell are you talking about, well, I'm talking about right now, Right now, Dick, we're talking to you. This is Gary Jeff Walker at seven out WLW and Cincinnati, a town you know very well from long ago at WSAI. Were

you one of the good guys, Dick? Apparently? How good I don't know, but yeah, yeah, I was. I was one of those guys, you know, seeing you beatles and all that stuff? Right were you? Were you at WSAI when Jim Scott was there? Did he come along later after? No, I think Jim Scott may have replaced me in the mornings. I probably think, Yeah, I don't think I ever missed him. Well, I got I got a quick story about Jim Scott, and then we'll get more to Dick Burton's story. And just because I got

a couple of extra minutes. Uh. We moved into our new state of state of the art studios up here in Kenwood back in about two thousand and four, and they had they had a performance studio built for like bands that would come in and they would play live acoustical stuff here in the studio for

the music studio. So one day we're just moving into the building into those studios and Jim is looking inside the window of the performance studio, and I said, Jim, does this remind you of your early days and radio back in the thirties when they had live orchestras and Jim Scott was always known as mister nice guy. But he looked at me. He looked at me with a grin and night's face and said, blank you and just smiled and walked away. It was the real It was the best. I guess he belie.

I got I gotta I gotta blank you from Jim Scott and nobody else got that just because I was because I oh man, But so Dick, what was that? What do you think was a highlight of your radio career? Did you have one thing you can you can pick out and go that? Man? That was really the the zenith And I'm kidding that at the playing softball for the ninety nine softball team at w SAI, and we would go out and play charity games. And I loved doing that. We had

more fun doing that than doing radio stuff. I was a great station. I loved SAI. I did yep. Yeah. Well he also worked for six months? Was it? And was it even that long? In Baltimore and came months. Six weeks. You missed by one, did I? Five weeks? Five weeks he left its right for a big fifty thousand one station in Baltimore w B A L. And just to show you the love

we have in our business, didn't you tell me? There was a line down the hall where the television people didn't dare come over to the radio side of the building advice. We were all in the same building. There were three floors, and we were forbidden by the Matt general managers of Radio L the guy who fired me after five weeks. L Burke could not get off on the second floor, which was CV w B A L TV could not do that, so we had to go all the way straight up, which

is fine. I didn't care about getting off from the second floor anyway. And but that's what we did. Yeah, And there was one problem after the other after the other after and so I called Joe Baccarella w X y Z and he had already offered me and I had turned down a job, and I said, Joe, either I'm leaving here in three weeks or five weeks or ten weeks, I didn't know how many weeks. But they're gonna fire me or I'll be fired or I'm just gonna quit it, And as

I turned out, I was fired. He used it. He used a non w BAO word. I did her, I did, And do you remember what that was? Yes? And this is not something you'll have to believe, Gary, but tell him what words you is? Well, it's spelled guts, as in gus. I was interviewing at Gino Martelli at the

Baltimore Coast where you had been with the Coast. By this time he was retired, but he was His ficher was in paper that an operation big Daddy Lipskin had stepped on his foot and ten years earlier, and he finally had it fished. And I said somewhere in the conversation something about gus. I have no idea, and Albert called me in after then he said, you used a non w b al word today. What I said, I did Hell? Well you can imagine if he's chastising me for using a non w

pao word. Um, what word was that? Hell? And clients of words? I think it And he said guts. I said guts. He said you can't say that at the station, So I understand. I said, I didn't know that beforehand. But my favorite story really that kind of time. Well, it doesn't time with it, but was one one morning I call the way I'll broke after ten when I was off the air, and he said, uh, he said listen, He said, every morning

at seven twenty you do a commercial for Western Electric of Cockies film. I said, I do, and he said, well, I've heard you do that. I don't want to hear you do any lines about cockies film. I said, well, have you heard me do any lines at all? I am? And he said, well, no, I am, and he leaned back, he popped up his pipe and uh. He said, well, I'll want to know you what. Maybe every now and then you can do a line about about cockey Cockies film. And I said I can.

Okay, fine, and he said, but don't ever do the a line about the time that send Miles mc cocky's film N new involved with at that point, I was probably three weeks involvement. I said, one word is is not far from Cockeysville. You don't mean to use all He said, Dickysville. And I that's true. Look on the map, Gary, Jeff, there really is a Cockiesville. Yeah. And the Dickysville, and they're nearby. Yeah, intercourse, Pennsylvania above him in you know, you

know what here here and here in this here in the Pennsylvania Dick. Here here in the Cincinnati area, Dick. In northern Kentucky. There's Big Bone Lick State Park and there's Beaver Lick State Park, and they're right next to each other. I kid you not, Dick Purton. She doesn't want to hear that talk. What a pleasure to speak to you tonight. Thank you so much, well, thank you Gary, very kind. And let me tell you that mister Purton is too modest to say it, but he is

raised for the Salvation Army with radio thons in this town. So many million. How many million dollars have you raised? I'm told of we hit forty three million maybe last year. That's a lot of my power of radio still in this day and age. And here we are on the number one station in an AM station at foot in Cincinnati and number one in the market. And we're proud to be on your show. Art, thank you so much for being radio's best friend. Art Volo and the gang h Man enjoy the

rest of lunch. Thank you, guys, Thank you very much, Thank you very much. I take care, I got a roll. It's the Nightcap on seven HULW. No, that's amazing. Bess Niflovic was a flight attendant for Yugoslav Airlines on a flight to Belgrade. For plane exploded and she felled thirty three thousand feet to Earth without a parachute and survived. No, that's just as amazing. Are Eddie and Rocky. They serve up the good

times and help you kick back after a long day. No, that's Eddie and Rocky More Afternoon three, seven hundred WLW Welcome back into another hour of the Nightcap here on seven hundred WLW and my only show in May is spotlighting one of our favorite, not just favorite guests, but favorite people in the entire world. The hostess spouting off and a frequent contributor to this program, the one and only Karen Cataline joins in how you doing KK? You know

I'm Gary Jeff. You are just so overly is the word obsequious? I don't know what the word is, but you are too kind, too generous, and you make me blish. Oh well, my praise for you can be effusive, but it's because you deserve it. I wanted to start with

this. I know you want to talk a little bit about the really creepy thing that went on in England over the weekend, and we will get to that, but I wanted to bring up just a headline that just came across this afternoon, and it's one of those dull no kid in moments story out of the Epoch News, Local and private COVID maxine vandiates of vaccine mandates or maxine vandates. I like that better. Maxine vandids. I knew her in

high school. Maxine vandids vaccine mandates for patients and health patients and healthcare workers being reversed, overturned across the US. In other words, these medical institutions, like some of the most staunch. They're saying, no, you can't get an organ transplant. You haven't you haven't gotten a jab. It won't be safe for you to get a transplanter for us to operate on you. University of Michigan just drop that policy either, one of the biggest transplant centers

in the country. It's amazing that you couldn't get a life saving transplant at many of these facilities over the last three years if you didn't have or two and a half years if you didn't have this poison injected into your body. So you can't get a life saving transplant, which may be your only hope to live without a life taking jab that could kill you with myocarditis or sudden heart attacks or strokes, or blood clots or any of the other things.

And that's the one thing if you receive a transplant, the last thing you need, or blood clots, Karen in bad places. But why did they do this in the first place, and what did they achieve now that they're waking up to the fact that people aren't afraid of COVID anymore. The question, as you answered, it has nothing to do with what they said it was about. But just to cut to the chase, and then I'll backtrack

a bit. God, when you you you told me about this story, and I probably saw something like it, because it's like drinking like from a fire hose these days. Anyway, Sure all I could think was, it's like Rosanna, Rosanna, Danna, never mind. Yeah, And we're not talking about penny little nothings. We're talking about people who probably died because of

government policies. And you can't call it overreach. You have to call it government dictators who imposed unrealistic, outrageous things on the public, and then with a flick of a button they go never mind, no accountability, no apologies, no clarification, no commitment to the truth or to clarity. We are supposed to just take them at their word. Once again, how many times can people be lied to and say, oh, well, it's nothing,

they changed it. Now. I'm flummixed by people who have survived to adulthood without having any discernment about the character of others. I'll just leave it at that. Oh, that's an excellent point, a really good point. You know. You know who dictators really like his Maxine Vandids because she was easy and for a dictator, that's to you, Yes, that's what that's what we need. But you know, it's like you and I talked about in May of twenty twenty on this program on this station, Karen, we said

at the time, and we were in agreement. These people will never apologize, They will never admit that they were wrong. They never admit that they caused way more harm than any good that could have been done by the law, downs the mandates of the vaccines and all of the rest, and we're seeing it now as you just mentioned. No, no, I'm sorry, No we were wrong. No, we just changed it. Please change the problem. I'll tell you what. They will also never admit that obedience,

and I guess the word is jumping the shark with government force. Yea persecution, intimidation and the lack of respect for human life, which we're seeing everywhere was the point. That's what they can and will never admit. None of us was accidental. That's the part that's so hard for any good decent person. You know, none of us are perfect, but some of us strive at least to try to be decent and to give credence to right and wrong.

And the ugliest part is they're trying to take away all reason, you know, as if these things happen in a vacuum. That's the problem. It's like, oh, well, now, if you talk to a true believer, a zombie, a gullible person who's still wearing masks. I went to the store today, they're still wearing masks there. You know, that's their sign of pure and complete gullibility and fear. If you ask them, they'll say, well, you know, they just wanted to be careful.

They will always justify the unjustifiable, and even the division in America also works in their favor. So they're trying to play a gambit on us, and I'm increasingly beginning to believe that it is not going to work. But we are facing just the most massive kinds of deception and corruption that has been out there in the open for everybody to see. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorists. All you gotta do is well, our time's really short tonight.

And I apologize for that, sorry, but no, I just wanted to real briefly mention what went on the tradition that was continued in the United Kingdom over the weekend. I'm watching that on my Saturday morning show. I'm

sitting in the studio and I just had the TV on. Somebody had had the TV on the coverage of the coronation thing, and I'm watching it, and I'm watching all of the ring kissing and the procession and all of that, and watching Charles get a crown put on his head by the archbishop and the fitting the crown and the whole thing, and I just thought, man,

this is one of the creepiest things I've ever witnessed. And Charles with these beady eyes looked like he was getting away with something he knew he shouldn't and he probably was. Well he shouldn't. I didn't watch one second of it. Yeah, not one second of it. I did love you know, some of the summation of Naomi Wolf, who talked about some of the departures from past traditions that were really creepy. But you see, making men into kings and lords and lording over others is creepy. It ought to be

creepy itself, especially to Americans, you know, Earth to Americans. We fought a war over this, and so right, you know, the globalism that says we're supposed to care. Let's just not play that game. I didn't. I didn't watch it. Hey, Karen, thanks for playing with me tonight. We appreciate it, dear, Always a pleasure. Thanks to good Karen Cataline dot com. If you want to find out more or find her programs. It's a nightcap and Vincent Everett Ellison is next. A good

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he shows because of the Red's broadcast. But joining us now is Vince Everett Ellison. He was born on a cotton plantation in Haywood County, Tennessee. His parents sharecroppers through their own hard work and believe in Jesus Christ. They raised them and Vince and his seven siblings out of poverty. They began a gospel group where Vince sang and played multiple instruments, and today Vince is an author and also a documentary maker. The new documentary is Will You Go

to Hell? For me to explain that title and to talk for a few month minutes tonight, Vince Everett Ellison, Good evening, sir, Hey, well val, you're doing good to be with you. Thanks for having me. This is not our first time, it's been a couple of years, but it's great to have you back. I've been trying to get you back on the program actually for a while, but couldn't make contact with you.

So I'm glad we're together again. First and foremost, Vince, you have you've written books in the past about the evils of Democrats, mainly because of the policies that they support, and in this new documentary your self position is and I believe it is true that those who consider themselves Democrats and also consider themselves Christians are putting their eternal souls in jeopardy by continuing to vote for these

Democrat politicians who overwhelmingly support the killing of unborn babies and the mutilation of children. Correct, Yeah, you are absolutely correct. We no longer have polity disagree with the people. This, this has gotten real. And this is for people who consider themselves to be, you know, believers in Jesus Christ, people of the book. If you don't believe, you're an atheist an agnostic, this is not for you. But but eighty five percent of black

people claim to be Christians. Seventy pipers of white people claim to be Christian and this is for you, um, your your your listeners have been correct, and this documentary proves that they've been correct. The Democrats have been calling Christian conservatives homophobes and racist and uh, you know, people that hate people don't care about the poor for years. This documentary proves that the Democrats are

the ones who are that way. And I say emphatically that you cannot vote for the Democratic Party in the way that there is now a party that believes are not myth abortion which is murder. A party that m launch a cast trade little boys and call them new girls. A party that brings drag queens into the public school system. A party that wants to have men participates against women in girls sports, and allow sementic grown men to go into the bathrooms

with women and little girls. This is the Democrat Party today. It is an evil institution, but it always has men. So your your your listeners can go to where you go to help. From meet dot com. They can view the trailer. Before Turk took the calls, some left fons muse he considered he allowed me to debut it on his show, and he says the best trailer he had ever seen and he said the movie is awesome. And the movie is awesome. It gives information about the civil rights movement and

about how Marthuth King Junior was compromised. Now the communists there took over the Black Church and led the Black Church to help these communists and Marsters take over the Democrat Party who's now trying to destroy America. America's dying. This is not hyperbole. If you look at our birth rate right now, it's a little two point oh, it's got to be at two point z to replace

the parents that have children, right Pats have two children. It stays even right now, we're about one point six, which means we're dying as a nation. While we're dying. LGBTQ comes about maybe twenty percent of the of the child ring. People in gend right now say that they're the LGBTQ. Our generation is basically an exam so now to twenty percent of them say that

they always means that happening. They're not having children. And then they have this crazy aboting policy where they want to abort everybody in America if they can. And America's dying. If we want to save our nation, if we want to have grandchildren as we get old. We need to step up now and save our children from this beast. And when we talk about I think

that democratic poth is the beast of our Bible. Talks about it. There's a beast all they doesn't It's meditate on blood, and it's controlled by a cabal of murderers, liars, perverts, and anti Christian biggots. All. You know, you're preaching of the choir here. But the Black community, in particular Vincent, has been sold this bill of goods and it still votes

over overwhelmingly for Democrats. Although that that tide is turning. But what would you what would you like to tell your black brothers and sisters in this country? Well, that tide is telling me because these people like me and you, and thank you for giving me this opportunity, for coming on your show, and and and and and and for talking. I would like to remind them that Jesus told us, which is supposed to please God, not man.

I know that marn Luther King Junior has been placed upon a pedestal, and that the black community follows a lot of his teachings, but a lot of his teachings are completely in error. I will give you an example, because I have a dream speech when he said, one hundred years after Man's face the proclamation, the Negroes still not free. That's not true. That's a lie. I was born free. God gave me my freedom. It's an unagilable right, according to John Locket is irrevocable, non transferable, and

unsellable. Uh. And Jesus said that once you become my child, I freed you. So black Christians can't say that Dad, that that dare not free walking around the street screaming we're not free. He told us that we should have a dream that one day we won't be judged by the color by skin, about the country of our character. That's ridiculous, because God say, I'm not supposed to be toncerby how man abuse me. I'm not supposed to be walking behind a white racist asking him not to judge me by the

color of by skin. I was supposed to love him, and if he puts his hands on me, you don't have another problem. See we we we we we we We've been taught. We've been taught a lie, and we've been taught to follow behind man and marching in the streets asking for reparations, begging for this, begging for that, as opposed to going to God. So what I want to tell them to do, if let's go back to our Bible, go back to what Jesus told us, Because he told

us when was asked, how do you know a false prophet? He shown You'll know him by the fruity bands, by his fruit. You will not get good fruit from a riding tree or bad for fruit from a good tree. Each tree and fruit will be after his own. If the Black community it's bad fruit right now, and they say that they are the tree it came from that to be bad and he has MARDs the King Junior Civil Rights Movement, we have to go back to Jesus Christ and leave man alone.

How much damage do you think that DLM did to the black community in America? They did exactly what they're supposed to do. They want to put us back on the plantation. They want to destroy the family, the same thing the Democratic Party wants to do. Look, as long as we vote ninety percent for the Democrat Party, they don't care what happened. They do not care. They what they see us. They see the city as a plotting

at the cotton plantation. And their job is to do just like they did by during during the Civil War and the Antebellum sound, keep black people on the plantation doing what they're told. And right now, back then they wanted

to pick cotton. Now they wanted to move for the Democratic Party. And if you go to the inner cities, if you think the Democrat Party is any good, just like John Kennedy said, if you think that communists any good, let them come to Berlin when steid that when you stood about the Burlian the Wall. Well, I'll tell you this. If you think the Democrat parties any good, go to the inner city, go to Destroit, go to Baltimore, go to Washington, DC, go to Philadelphia, go

to New Orleans. Everywhere they rum black people. They beat him in the ground, they treat e, let the dogs, They destroy the family to trap their children, the family schools get armed. Him going, they can't defend themselves and let the drug uses and the drug dealers run the street kicking that doors in vincent is. This is this is this function and we have to change it. Go to will you go to help from me dot com? Thank you? Will you go to helprom me dot com? And watch

and watch this trailer. Definitely will and definitely a great pleasure and a blessing to have you on the program tonight. Vincent Everett Ellis, Will you Go to Help from Me dot Com? Is the documentary, and in it he asserts that if you vote for these people who are behind these pro abortion and these pro mutilation policies, you are an accomplice to that crime, to that sin. Thank you so much, sir, No pleasure, brother, thank you, thanks for having me. It's the nightcap and it rolls on with

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over the next eighteen seventeen minutes. Or so, the one and only sports voice who I can never agree with. Andy Furman, the Great Furball, joins us on the nightcap. Andy, welcome back to the show. It's been such a long time. I'm glad you were available this evening on the night before your hip surgery, which is gonna occur tomorrow. Now, is this like a colin ospie or anythink you have. You have to drink a bunch of gross stuff and not eat or anything. No, is a matter

of fact. You cannot drink or eat anything after midnight. And that's about I guess an hour and a half two our right exactly, So I can't do that, and you know, and tomorrow, four hours before the surgery, can't do it. Then you can't smoke. I have not had a cigar in about two months. Oh, because because of the fact that you're you will bleed hibots healing, you will bla plaid more easily. Yeah. Nice, I'll celebrate, I guess around maybe first week of June, Memorial

Day. Maybe I'll light one up. We'll see, who knows. Oh, you know what, My next night show, Andy, is on Memorial Day night, So maybe by then we'll be able to do radio again and we can celebrate with a with a victory cigar, you and me, the two of us. No, I mean yeah, I thought, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry, you're gonna say, I'm good. I'm just so excited to tell you it's been it's been how long three weeks? Well,

oh, at least at least three or four weeks. And my wife is starting to rather hear us. They'll listen to Red Baseball to be honest. Oh no, now you're getting into a cannon worms here at the home of the Reds. Come on, the Reds are on the radio, baby, and they're on the radio right here on the nation station, the big

Roun seven LW good. So you're a good soldier. You're so. You had some you had some qualms, and you weren't the only one over the weekend with a weather situation that coincided with one of the big outdoor events in Cincinnati every year, maybe the biggest running event for sure in this town. And this is a running town, believe me, The Flying Pig Cincinnati, right as I as I woke up, as I woke up Sunday morning, as I woke up Sunday morning, getting away from your awful, awful gastric

humor. Uh. As I woke up Sunday morning to the downpour that was, I said, oh man, those people are out there right now running the fly as I called it. Told my wife it's the swimming Pig marathon this year, and it almost wine the swimming swine exactly seven swines is swimming. And there were a lot more than that, like eighteen thousand people who've trained and prepared and gotten ready for this one day over the last year. And you're telling them that they should not run the race. Well, let

me back up for a second. Number one, I think the event is tremendous and I've been involved in I've ran the ten k at least three times, maybe before. I never ran the marathon, but I ran the ten k, and I think it's a great event. It's a great event for the city. They subsidized charities. You know, I'm going to go on and on and on. It puts us on the map. It's a worldwide event. Now you've got like forty thousand freaking people there yesterday. That's a

great thing for the city. However, they made a mistake, and they made a mistake last year too, and I'm not ashamed to admit when I make a mistake, but I think when people make mistakes, they should come up there, be honest and say, look, I screwed up. And I didn't hear anybody from that organization, the Flying Pigs, that they screwed up last year when I had a sixty year old kid race and by the way, that's six year old kid again race this year with his father and

you can see pictures online. He wasn't registered to race. Okay, they said it won't They won't stop for a second. What the hell was wrong? What did something happen to the six year old kid last year when he raced? They didn't want him. Medical people did not want him racing. Something did something happen to the six year old kid wrong? That's like saying I went through a red light and nothing happened, so continue to go through

a red light. That's the most aston not excuse I've ever heard. He wasn't supposed to run, and now is in and the story nothing happened. Thank god, nothing happened, Andy, Andy, I didn't my wife and I did not get any of the poisonous COVID vaccine jabs, and nothing happened. So were we wrong? We were we wrong to not give because nothing happened? Did anybody give Andy? And no, it wasn't. It was being it was being mandated. It was being mandated across the country by the

government and corporate organization. So it wasn't my media because you will permitting the work. That's right. And they were ready to stand me down, but they did not. So nothing happened. So different analogies. No, no, no, no, did anybody case the race officials did not have won a sixty year old racing. That's number one? Did anybody? Number two? Did anybody get struck by lightning yesterday? Or drowned in the swimming swine

marathon in Cincinnati? And with that Lawchic, I'll go and say maybe basically baseball should play their games in the rain. FC Cincinnati should play when there's lightning out there and take a chance that maybe no one will get struck.

Let me just say one thing. I'm not the smartest guy in the world, as you know, but when I hear Steve Horsmeyer, who basically all he has done his entire life is study and deliver a weather forecast for forty five plus years he went on record today and I've never ever heard Steve Horsemeyer say anything to the contrary like this. He just delivers the weather as a

pro and that's it. On Channel nineteen Bailey he said this morning, he said, in his forty five plus years of giving weather forecast, it was the most irresponsible situation he has seen to permit this group to race number one number two. Channel five removed their camera people from the site at six thirty am Sunday morning for fear of lightning strikes. So, yes, there's a problem that they raised that race. Now I went back and did some research.

Did they ever in fact cancel marathon races? Yes? In twenty fourteen, the Minneapolis Marathon was canceled for weather, The Saint Jude Marathon was canceled due to weather and safety conditions. The Blue Ridge Marathon was canceled due to severe weather in April of twenty twenty three. So what has happened? So when I hear Iris Bush Simpson, the CEO, president, chairperson, whatever the hell he does, but his marathon say we can't cancel it if everything's

in order. What's more important someone's help or your sponsors there, that's all I'd like to know and if by solar Irish Bush Simpson, I would ask her face to face, would you racing it? Here's here's my po and the story. Here's my other analogy. Why shouldn't it have been the people who were going to race? Why shouldn't have been their prerogative? They can see lightning in the sky, They can make that determination for themselves, Andy White, and they get to cancel the option. You're right, No,

you're like your run is the option that they didn't have to run. However, I will tell you this, these runners who have come from other countries to be here, who have trained three hundred and sixty five days a year, do not want to not run. They want to run, but they want to run in safety conditions. They were people who are running and twisted and almost break broke ankles by going to the potholes that were full of water. And that's not even lightning related, because water related. No, there

was a bad situation. That's the end of story. No, that's that's related to the fact of the city of Cincinnati can't fix the frigging potholes, right, that's what and that's what that's related to. So I don't even hear about anybody twisting their ankle because of the weather. Andy, that's a weak excuse. Full of water. Yeah, but that's that's what happens when it rains. The potholes fill up with water. Rights, But if there was no rain garage up, that be no water in it, all right.

That's like saying, you know, if the queen has testicles, he'd be the queen right Well, no, no, really that that that actually may be an argument very very soon, the way the world is going, Andy, I know, I know, I don't want to lead you into something wet swimmers with testicles who are swimming right now against women. So let's let's not use that that joke. It's ridiculous. You're right, But I'm just saying, there's nothing wrong with saying humane a mistake. You're wrong.

And I when I hear and see and read what Iris Bush Simpson has said that it's a tough situation. I had to live with the you know, you're the boss, the fox doesn't you and you've made a mistake. That's a thank god, thank god, no one's struggle with lightnings. I watched Channel nineteen last night and Ethan I forgot his last name. Ethan does the weather at night? He had a lightning strike? Are you he live? Hold on? Hold on? Are you in the payroll of Fox nineteen.

That's about the third time you've referenced that station. Of course, you know ours the chief because our station, our station that we operate with, is the nine first Warning Weather Center. And I don't want to give them a short CPO I have. I have not nobody better than you know. I'll take Steve Rawleigh over Steve Horsemeyer any damn day of the week. Steve Rawleigh, we talk about Steve Rawley has to be a good friend of mine. We go to the to the Montgomery and Cigars, and he's a good I

love him. However, he has not said boom. He's not said I'm quoting what Steve Horsmier said. Steve robably hasn't said anything. When did Steve Horsemeyer become a policymaker for the Flying Pig Marathon? Oh? I know was this? He tweeted? And I read the tweet. So I'm telling you what he said. And he's got forty five plus years experienced broadcasting weather and the story. I've got forty three years of experienced doing radio. And that's

about the stupidest argument I've ever heard. Oh really, you will probably sleeping, And what are the stupid that guys are professional meteorologist. He knows what's going on the radar. I did happen to watch nineteen because it was on at ten o'clock last night, and I watched it and they had minute by minute the radar what it was like at six thirty am. They showed it. And you can't tell me that, Irish. But Simpson was not privy to that material. Come on, really, use this us pressure by sponsors,

and she said, let's get it done. Do it. And I'm telling you right now there are the other marathons that are canceled due to severe weather. And believe it or not, yesterday was a severe weather. I'm sorry. Okay, Well, I will tell you that when I woke up Sunday morning. I woke up early Sunday morning. Usually I try and sleep in because I've got a long day on Saturday, you know, early in the morning, up here doing the Saturday Show and then being at the bar

all day long, you know, slinging drinks for Hillbillies and others. So I try to sleep in both say that those are your customers. Call them kill billies. Yeah, no, some of them were flat billies. Anyway, I got up. I got a Sunday morning early because of that beautiful sound of the thunderstorm. I love. That was very comforting. Now I wasn't out running in it when you were in bed. Yeah, it's company when you were in bed, you know, when you were in jim shoes

a rate to run. But I mean, shouldn't I have gone down into the basement just because the lightning can strike right in your window and killed you in your house, and you know, but you know what you know, and I didn't take you didn't take a basive act. Now you're making fun. Now you're playing. Okay, I'm not making that fun of anybody who

got hurt. Because nobody got hurt. That's fine. You know what if if we want to go by your logic, let's go on I seventy five and I seventy one and go one hundred miles an hour for a week because no one's gonna get hurt. Maybe no one will get hurt, so we could do that. That's your logic as all as no one because let's play with guns. If no one gets hurt, it's hard. That's hard to

get Hurt's how a logic is that it's hard to drive it. It's hard to drive on ice seventy one if you haven't noticed lately without having to go eighty miles an hour in your car because otherwise people will run you over in the slow lane unless you're doing it. Nature of the beast is to prevent someone from getting hurt. Safety first, that's the nature of the beast. Prevent someone from getting hurt. Not do it and say, oh, we

didn't get hurt. That's assinine. That's asked backwards. Well, I mean, the only reason that they were wrong and and myopic on this andy it was because someone had gotten struck by lightning. Then they were opening all kinds of lawsuits, so that wouldn't have been good. Well, I would tell you this much. It's a good thing that maybe they didn't. Maybe that they didn't do that because you're right about the lawsuit situation. I don't know

if someone could sue the Flying Pig Marathon. Maybe they could. I guess you could because you're registered to run and you're paying. I guess it's their event. I don't know, I really don't know how that works. I'm not an attorney. All I know is this, they need to take caution. I think in anything you're doing, you take caution. You know. Here's the deal. You go to a Reds game, they scare you to see if you have a gun on you, right you get into the bluepark,

they do that. In other words, no one got hurt for me to take guns in there. Let's not do it. That's not the thing. It's safety first. They got precautions. That's what they do. Precautions. You're taking a chance, That's all I'm saying. And again, thank god, no one got hurt, no one got struck by lightning. But I'm telling you right now, when you make the mistake a year ago with the sixty year old, do you make the mistake kind of a poor judgment

this year and the sixty year olds in there again? Oh, evade, no, come on. Is totally totally on the parent. It's the parents responsibility. It's not the states or the flying pigs responsibility to make sure six year olds don't run. No, it's the parents' responsibility. He ran with his parent, He ran with his dad, said it was okay, and he ran with his dad the marathon. I think that's totally the way it ought to be. The dad said it's okay, but it's not his marathon.

To say it's okay, it's year old, it's his southern Andy, Come on, I don't care if it's his mother in law the Flying Pigeons. I want a six year old kid racing, and the kid was back there this year. Although not registered to run, he still is in there. And they should have seen that. A good look, A good look. Oh you're worried about optics again, mister optics. Listen before we go.

I just wanted to show are you are? Are you are nervous about your hip surgery in the morning, No, well would I'll be sleeping about everything. You're nervous about six year old with his dad's consent and running in the Flying pig You're a nervous guy. You're a neurotic because Christ's Hospital has the best Italian ices in the world and I can't wait to get him well, Andy, God bless you will. We will be praying for you to

come through your hip surgery. But if not, I am saving this interview so you know we will be playing it in the fur Ball Memorial the next the next show when your next show, so Memorial Day night, that's the next one. You should be recovered enough to do radio with me again. Well you know what, I may call you Saturday morning to let you know I'll be in good shape. Man. All right, yeah? Please? Do we like the updates? All right? The fur Ball on the Nightcap

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some very very highly media profiled shootings in the last couple of weeks. Specifically, Dan was joins us on the Nightcap. How you doing, Dan, Hey, Gary, Jeff, thanks for having me on the show. It's always great to talk to you about this stuff. It's pretty important, and thank you for for you know, speaking out about it. It is extremely

important. And it's important to note that a lot of people either forgot or just didn't know this because most of the mainstream media will never report it, is that Joe Biden was, as a senator, one of the people who was behind this this crime bill that was passed, and one of the things that this allowed was gun free zones. Infamous shooting Sandy Hook, We saw what went on in Parkland, Florida, what went on in Uvalde, Texas.

All of these were quote unquote gun free zones. And they're they're actually doubling down on this, aren't they. Dan. Yeah, And you might argue that Columbine could have been almost a direct result of Joe Biden's Gun Free School Zones Act. So what happened there people don't know is back in nineteen ninety, Joe Biden introduced the Gun the Crime Control Act, and in it was the Gun Free School Zones Act, which basically removed all firearms from campuses.

Now, they had provisions for elected or selected people to security guards and things like that, but for the most part, schools jumped on board with the anti gun narrative and they and they pretty much went unarmed and helpless ever since that law. That bill was signed into law in nineteen ninety. So what happened is since then, school killings have doubled and they increase at twice

the rate of increase every ten years. So we get more and more school killings because and you can argue it's directly related to Joe Biden's nineteen ninety Gun Free School Zones Act. I've been trying to shine the spotlight on this, and it's something that Democrats don't want to talk about, of course not.

It's a direct result of that, and we need to we need to get that repeal and we need to get armed security, and we need to be able to our to let teachers and staff who are inclined to carry a gun do so on campus. I have a sister in law in Nashville to teach us for a public school little kids, and she was just, you know, in the wake of the private school shooting there a few weeks back at

this Christian academy in Nashville. You know, we went to visit mom and dad and saw Cecilia and her husband, my brother, and she was just, Oh, she's apoplectic. She's insisting that you've got to get guns off the streets. You've got to get guns out of the hands of everyone in the country to keep the children safe. And the fact that she was having to go undergo security and safety training, you know, to try and thwart these attacks, was just devastating to her. I shouldn't have to do this.

I got in this to educate students, not to be a security guard. And she just was what do you say to people like that. They have no offense to your family member, but they have no sense of reality when it comes to guns. They are so scared of guns, and it's an irrational fear when they have no understanding of how destructive it would be if we lost our gun rights. If we lost our gun rights, the government would come in and completely take over, the take over the population. Government

would control every aspect of your life. And I think the people who are irrationally scared of guns because of the media, because of the anti gun fear campaign, I think they just don't understand, and they if they do start to understand, they get pushed back from their side that keeps them in line. It's a very tough psychological battle that we're that we're having here to try to educate people and try to get them to understand the importance of guns in

our culture. It's the most important thing because without guns, without the right to have for citizens to have guns, we have no freedom. I firmly believe everything you're saying, and I stand behind you one hundred percent. In fact, i'd stand in front of you if if I had a kevlar vest.

But I'm sitting here talking to Dan was tonight in the Nightcap. What I'm what I'm thinking is even even me having some understanding in our conversations and in my understanding of the Constitution, and how important, how invaluable it is for any one of us, as American citizens to own and bear firearms for our own protection and for our families protection, our properties protection, and that

should be protected. I have noticed an increasing amount of publicized so called mass shootings, and we had another one in Allen, Texas over the weekend at the outlet roll. Those shootings are beneficial to the to the well primarily the Democrats, because without those shootings, they have no justification for gun control.

So every time you see the thing is once you get I've been I've been in this argument now for a good number of years, and I understand the thought process of the anti gun crowd once you understand that they're not really their intentions are not to help save lives and protect children. As your family member might be your family would you say it was your sister, my sister in

law, sister in law. She might be very well intended. She doesn't want to and I completely understand that, But the problem is she's been misled by a group of gun grabbers who who really don't care about the lives of children. They're they're more interested in getting guns out of the hands of lawful Americans, patriots, American citizens. The American gun are they want to disarm

the population. Now, your sister in law may not get that piece, and I understand that because the media is so good at what they do. But that, but they're not to summarize, they're not necessarily interested in saving lives as much as they are removing guns from their political opposition. Well, of course they always point to other countries and gun restrictions, and you know

Australia has often given as an example. See now, in Australia, they basically banned anyone from carrying a gun out in public and the murder rate's gone down. Is that factually accurate? Dan? Actually, what they did there were two major gun bands in Australia and they the reason they and the guns first, it was a rifle band as a pistol band, and the reason they did that was because it was under the guise of stopping suicides, which

was their narrative. And what happened with suicides was it didn't go down. It did nothing. The gun bands did nothing to slow the rate of suicides in Australia. They've done this in several countries. It also does nothing to stop violence. It will however, it might it might have some effect on stopping violence with guns because guns are more are harder to get, but it

doesn't stop or slow the rate of violence because people use other means. So are we going, are we really trying to stop violence or are we just trying to stop violence by gun? Because if we're just trying to stop violence by gun, it's clear to me that we're really just trying to eliminate guns.

But the guns will never be eliminated in this country from people who have who people who have nefarious plans with their guns, because again, the guns are not in and of themselves, they're not evil, they're inanimate objects, they're they're basically tools of protection for people. And how many times in all of these just widely publicized hysterical head on fire mass media short stories about mass shooters, how many times has the person who has been directly into, you

know, allegedly committed these crimes. How many times have the perpetrators of these crimes been an NRA member, a Gun Owners of America member. How many times has there been a just a sane, normal, law abiding citizen who never has even thrown any kind of shown any kind of confunction to do something like this been the one who's been accused of it. Never there are people who have been you know, their family said no, this person's insane,

and they've been able to get a gun. And so now the fact that law abiding citizens are being held their feet to the fire and their rights being challenged and taken away in these places. They're not committing these crimes, Dan, No, they're not. And I can guarantee you that in any every single situation where a gun was used to cause harm on another individual, I can guarantee you that the gun had nothing to say about it. Yep.

It's always the person who's taking the action. And just to clarify what I said earlier that you know, you can take away the gun, but you can't. But it does nothing to reduce violence. And I thought, according to the gun grabbers that we were supposed to be reducing violence. They're not trying to reduce violence. A matter of fact, come to my state of New York and you'll see my originally appointed Governor hokel letting prisoners out of jail

from with early release and bail reform and all sorts of things. They're not trying to stop the violence. They're actually encouraging it. While trying to disarm the law abiding citizen because we're their political opposition, right exactly, and they're treating us like the purps. They're treating us like the suspects. We are the threat to them, not the people who are the threat to us.

It's really a strange dichotomy world we're living in right now. Dan was just remember what they did during COVID and imagine what they would do if the American population was disarmed. Frightening, absolutely frightening. YEA, yeah, yes, our guns, our guns are keeping us free, and we're also protecting the liberals and the leftists and the Democrats who vote for this garbage. We're also

keeping them free. So there have been some court successes in defense of the Second Amendment in both Illinois and in Washington State you were telling me about, Yeah, so you know, they back up just a little bit in brief everybody again. Nineteen ninety four, there was a so called assault weapons ban, which was promised by Bill Clinton to again stop violence if we banned these

so called a salt weapons. They so they passed this law. Clinton signed it into law, and it was it was scheduled to sunset ten years later if it proved to not stop violence or even slow violence. And it did exactly that. It did nothing. It didn't slow violence at all. So at sunset it ten years later. In other words, the so called a salt weapons ban did nothing. It didn't work. So what are they're trying to do it? They're always trying to do it again because somehow, somehow,

now it's going to be different. Um. The truth is they just want to get rifles out of the hands of civilians. So Illinois just signed into law another assault weapons ban, and Gun Owners of America went in and just recently a lot of weeks ago, one a preliminary injunction, which means it's kind of like a restraining order on the state. Um, So now it's gonna go to appeals and it's gonna it's gonna go through that whole process.

Washington State, UH, just signed in a similar law, a similar bill into law, another assault weapons ban, and the Second Amendment Foundation and Firearms Policy Coalition both went in with lawsuits for preliminary injunctions, and I suspect that they will get their prelimits. Marion Johnson's as well in Washington State. Wonderful news. I mean when the system works. It works. When it's

broken, then we all suffer. And these laws work to break the system that we've all come to know and love and appreciated in the Land of the Free. Dan was, as always, what can people of? Where can people find you? Where can they look for you? Because you're so authoritative

on the subject. You know about guns, and you know about these insane laws that they're trying to pass, you know on people's emotional scars and the things that they're subjected to daily by a media that is playing right along with the gun grabbers. Where can people find Dan was? Well, thanks so much Gary Jeff for having me on your show. I really appreciate it. You're doing a great job. Keep up the great work. People can find me at good Gun, Bad Guy dot com. Good Gun, Bad Guy

dot com. I also for Amland. You can go to amal Land dot com and you can find my articles there, and you can find my web show at loaded Mike dot com, Loaded Mike mc like microphone dot com. Well, thank you so much for your time again, brother, and keep your powder dry. I'll talk to you all right. Dan was tonight on

the Nightcap. Great to talk to him. As always, I mean, somebody who actually knows what he's talking about on the subject, instead of all of the emotional vampires that are trying to suck the life out of the argument and take your ability to protect yourself and your family from criminals, from foreign adversaries and domestic adversaries. As in the federal government. Who's really behind all this this gun grabbing uh not people trying to end violence. As Dan pointed

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further Ado, I t guy the man. I coined the term mad Hatter for that now everyone is using because you know, you may think that he's got some aluminum foil hat ideas about security in the digital age and AI and the Internet of things world, and he does, and it's a good thing. That's not mad, that's just sensible. Dave Hatter talks to us about some of the latest developments in the cyber's space. How are you doing, Dave, I'm doing good, Gary Jeff, it's always thanks for having me

on. How you doing doing fine? Man? Just ready to stretch my legs a little bit. I'm afraid I'm a little rusty. I've been out of practice here for nightcaps anyway. So first story that caught my eye and dragged a twelve feet was I cloned myself. Tell me about this. Yeah, this is something I've been warning about for some time, Gary Jeff, And honestly, it's my biggest concern from an immediate standpoint with all this AI

tech. You know, if AI going to wipe this down in the long run, maybe is it going to impact society and particularly you know, create and take jobs. Ye, I'm pretty sure it will. But you know, right now, it's very easy to go out and get your hands on technology that anyone can access for free or at very limited costs. There's a bunch of sites like this where you can do this, where you can clone your voice, and that's what this writer is referring to. It's a Wall

Street Journal story, and there have been several other writers. I've seen articles show up on a couple publications where they've tried to demonstrate this to warn people.

So when again, when you look at this from a cyber security angle and the idea of cyber crime and fraud, whether it's the Grandma scam where you get a call and it claims to be your grandson or granddaughter and they're in jail and they need money, or it claims to be your boss authorizing the transfer of funds like the thirty five million dollars bank fraud in the UAE. This technology exists, it's easy to access, and it's pretty good.

I have fooled with it myself a little bit. I've seen plenty of examples like this writer here where she cloned her voice. In some cases, as little as three to seven seconds of audio will be enough, whether you read a thing they have you read to you start the process, or you actually just have audio of someone's voice, maybe a voicemail, maybe something of the

video or audio they posted on Facebook or something. I mean, it's never been easier to have access to this stuff, and you can create very convincing realistic clones of people's voices. And as this writer and several others of showm they've used it to fool their family members, They've used it to call their bank. You know, a lot of banks, Gary Jeff have that automated system where you can call and you know, talk your way through, like

the prompts and so forth. So I'm glad you brought this up because I'm really concerned about this. I think people are going to get your businesses and individuals posts are going to have lots of money stolen as a result of this technology, because I don't think people realize how good this stuff is and frankly, how easily available it is. Well, Dave, will it come to a point where banks just stop the voice activation altogether because of this threat?

My guess is arey, Jeff, They will have to and I think it's going to happen soon or read it than later. Again, you know, this is not some fly by night conspiracy theory website. This is the Wall Street Journal doing a you know, a major story on this and demonstrating how

the technology can be used. There was a story. I think it might have been Vice, but I don't remember where the writer was in Europe and his bank with Voyds of London, and he called He did a similar type of thing and was able to call in and work through the prompts using the voice that he cloned, you know, his own voice that he cloned. What to say? Ah. So the technology is here again. People can go find these things online. Many of them are free. And again I

think you'll be shocked at how good these things sound today. So give it a year or two, give it three years. As good as it is now, we are rapidly heading into a point where you will not be able to tell the difference. And you know, increasingly that's true, whether it's audio, video, photos, texts from something like catchpt But this thing, in my mind is the most damaging from a crime standpoint, because if you get a call at three o'clock in the morning and it claims to be your

kid and they're in jail and they need money or they've been kidnapped. I mean, and this is a fairly common scam. If you look this up and it sounds just like them, you know, are you really going to question that? So one of the things I've been recommending to people. I had someone suggests that the knee GARAGEYFF and I recommend that people start to do this, as crazy as it sounds. You need to have some kind of

pass raise with your family. You know, back when I was in the Army, if you were on guard duty, there would be like a running password, and if someone came, you know, at you in the dark and they didn't know the running password, it didn't work out too good for

them. But I think you need a need think you need a similar kind of thing here where if you get a call claims to be your boss, claims to be your daughter, your grandson, whomever, Especially if it's requiring some sort of urgent action and there's some kind of financial, you know, thing involved, you need to have some kind of pre arranged passphraise that they need to know or some sort of question you need to ask that only they

would know, so that you can try to verify the authenticity of the call. So in other words, something like if they don't say funny bunnies are sissies, then you know it's not them. Yeah, something like that. As crazy as it sounds, I mean, that's where we're at now. Grey. Yes, this next story Dave Hatter about Selena Gomez at the twenty twenty three met Gala and the look the dress he was wearing and when viral on Twitter, Selena Gomez wasn't there. Well, this is this just speeds

right into that, so it's a perfect segue to another similar topic. So you'll hear nerds like me use the term synthetic medium, which is sort of the umbrella phrase for any kind of content created, you know, entirely by a computer. It could be text, it could be audio, could be video, could be photos. And here's a perfect example where after the Met Gala, a photo of Selena Gomez was posted that had almost twenty three million views and she wasn't even there. So this is some kind of you know,

whole cloth synthetic medium. You often hear the term deep fake, but usually that has a more pejorative nature, and it's, you know, something obviously faked for some kind of malicious purpose, followed a deep fake if you want, but a photo that appears to be of her at this event. She hasn't been there for years. She was not at the event. And then the second angle of this. But I think it is important because if you look at the photo, it looks real to me. I mean,

I'm not a huge Selena Gomeres fan. I don't follow her a career. I can't tell you that I would easily be able to point out a false photo of her under anytime. I don't care about any pictures from the met Gallas. So there you go. I'll top you one there. But I'm sure it was fabulous even though it wasn't real, I'm sure it was.

And the photo, though again almost twenty three million views, it got more views and comments and so forth on social media than photos of people that were actually there, which then gets to the now you have, you know,

deep fake synthetic media content that spreads by really over social media. If this were the presidential election or a congressional election, could you know a completely holpluff synthetic photo video audio of a candidate seeing or doing something horrible, be dropped right before an election and then be spread via social media like this was, And how would you debunk it? Well, you know, and in terms

of you know, yeah, timing, well, you know. And they've already done this with Donald Trump showing pictures of you know, men handcuffing him and wrestling him down, and and they've done it with Kamala Harris videos, which are just as stupid as the actual videos of Kamala Harris. I might add uh talking about tomorrow and you know, and doing her word salad thing, but it was a totally faked video. So it's already going on in that public sphere, not to a great extent, but it shows you what

can be done. And the thing I wonder about, Dave is say you're you're arrested, you're charged with a crime, and you're on trial, and then you can bring some of this this generated media showing you were at another place at another time, completely and fool the judge and the jury. What about that? I think that's another problem too, garage aff and it cuts both ways, right, could synthetic media be used to frame you for a crime you didn't commit? Video, so called video of you committing a crime

or vice versa. Could you use synthetic media to generate some type of content, video, audio, whatever, that would indicate that it wasn't you. So yeah, I think that's going to cause a lot of upheaval in society as well. And that's one of the reasons why I appreciate, you know so much the opportunity to talk about these things with you, Because as far fetched and crazy as this stuff sounds, you know, I'm a'm not making

this stuff up. It's all real. It's easily verifiable. Again, all of these tools or variants of it, whether it's the photo creation tools, the video creation tools, the audio creation tools, are all easily available right now. Anyone can do just the Google search. Well, don't use Google, use dot dot go, you know, protect your privacy as best you can. But you can easily access these things and play with them, and I think people will be absolutely shocked. None of them are perfect, none

of them are without their issues. And like the voice cloning thing I fooled with, it doesn't sound exactly like me, but I think it's close enough for most people, especially if they weren't you know, sort of thinking I need to be skeptical. I need to verify out a band that this is real. I can easily, and you know, you'll find much more high end examples like that video I think we talked about before the MITAMATE a couple of years ago to demonstrate this technology. It's several years old, and I

you know, I think the quality is amazing. Supposedly, you know, it's Nixon's giving the speech he was going to give us the moon landing failed. If people haven't seen that, they should go look it up. And that's technology several years old now, it was done by mt You know, those tools are increasingly available to just regular folks like me and you out there here. Well, two things about this, Dave, as you and I have talked about in the past, what we know about is frightening alarming.

But what we know about is only just a small sintilla of a fraction of what's actually available that hasn't been made available to the public, and nobody's talking about yet all kinds of dark projects that we know nothing about, that are

miles ahead of the things that are already present in the cyber world. See, I think you could say with a high degree of confidence that, you know, the stuff that's been released to the public is nowhere near the most cutting edge stuff that's in some government labs somewhere in China or Russia or you know, even here in the United States, whether it's a government lab or Google lab or Apple or whomever. You know. Again, we're seeing stuff

once they think it's ready for the public. Who knows what's really out there? And when you come when you look at the current capabilities of this stuff, it's pretty stunning in many cases, again not perfect, but from a crime and fraud perspective, which you know, it's the thing I'm currently concerned

about. I just think we're headed to a very bad place where a lot of people are going to have their money stolen, whether it's them as an individual or their business because of these technologies and the fact that people don't understand them, people don't realize the high quality, you know, stuff they create, and then also that bad people are going to use them in very convincing ways to defraud them. Unfortunately, are you currently about Am I really talking

to Dave Hatter? Because I could do like a whole fifteen minute segment with you and it wouldn't even be you would just be your voice saying, well, we should try that sometime, Gary, Jeff. If people will have to come up offline with our our running password, you know, like LEPrecon or something. Yeah, they'll have to ask me during the show to say it. Then I'll say it. You'll know it's me, Fuzzy bunnies or sissies. All right. So these are ten ways that your credit card can

get hacked. I don't know if we've got time to go into depth about all of them. Many things we've talked about, but if you're looking at protecting your finances with everything that people are doing online now with credit card numbers and data breaches is huge Statista US as it in twenty nineteen, there or fourteen hundred and seventy three data breaching cases in the US alone, exposing about

one hundred and sixty five personal records. And the most effective way to combat the chances of data breaching is to one well, first off, but the most difficult one is don't put your data out there right, keeping keepers digital footprint as small as possible. But that's, you know, getting increasingly difficult and unrealistic as our world transforms to it all digital space. You know a lot of it, Gary, Jeff is the things we talk about all the

time. Be skeptical, don't trust anything, verify it, you know, through some out of band mechanism. Don't click links until you've verified what you got is real by perhaps even calling the organization that's in it. Yep. You know, understand the deep paid capability and the fact that anything you get could be spoofed and could seem extremely realistic even though it's not. So you've got to verify out of band. It's then it's all the traditional stuff.

You know. You're a strong, unique password for every account, ideally with a password manager, turn on multi factor authentication on all your accounts, so it's harder for the bad guys to get into these things. What about it? What about a virtual credit card? Dave? Well, the virtual credit card is a good way to do. I mean, it can be kind of inconvenient, but with a virtual credit card, basically every time you want to do a transaction, you get a virtual number that's used on a temporary

basis. It's used for that one transaction, you know, and then it goes away. So it's vastly reduces the likelihood that criminals can get ahold of

your credit card. You know. Another thing along those same lines is if you're buying things online, use a credit card, don't use a debit card because you know you have a certain amount of fraud protection built into that and limits your risk obviously, though you know, don't pay for don't buy things, can't pay for it with a credit card, you know, freeze your

credit, set up credit alerts, monitor accounts on a regular basis. Those are all things that will definitely help reduce the impact of any fraud activity. Skimming is a big deal too, And that's like in a gas station. You know, you swipe, insert your card whatever, credit or debit card, and people have attached a skimmer to it. And can you really tell? Should you be extra vigilant when you go to pay for something out in the real world with your debit card or credit card? How can you tell

if there's a skimmer attached to the device? I got about a minute, Well, Gary, Jeff, yes, you should be extra vigilant. You can find lots of examples in local media of police warning about this. So this is a this is a real thing. You know. A couple pieces of advice use the It's like at a gas station. I always try to use the ones that are closest to where the people are, like closest to where the clerks are, because it would be you know, you would take

more guts and be more difficult to plant some of them. The problem is these things keep getting smaller and smaller, and they're usually kind of set down inside the credit card reader, so you know, you can fiddle with the credit card reader. You can look around, see if it's loose, see if anything moves around inside it. Those would be indications that something might be

wrong with it and you might not want to use it. But yeah, unfortunately, they're getting more and more difficult to discover because they're getting smaller and smaller. But it's a real thing and people should be aware of that and be alerted to anything that looks unusual about the credit card apparatus before you put your card in it. Joining us on this lone nightcap for may Dave Hatter

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