8-6-25 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker

Well, I guess it is a midweek crisis. If you were tuning in for Dan Carrell tonight, but now it's me instead, Gary Jeff Walker on a very special Wednesday Night tap here on seven hundred WLW. How are you. I'm fine, Thanks for asking. Over the last few days, my wife and I traveled to Middle Tennessee to see my parents. My dad, god Willing, will be eighty nine

Thanks for having me.

I'm doing well. Yeah. We still continue to have these battles in the courts among very leftist judges who apparently think in fantaside is just fine. An Obama appointed judge just last week before cracked opened the courtroom door, and Planned Parenthood's political foot soldiers marching out blocking the defunding of Planned Parenthood in the President's One Big, Beautiful Bill.

Yeah, we've got a new office opening in Staten Island. We've got an office in Brooklyn, an office in the Bronx, and an office across New York State and the key abortion of hub cities like Buffalo, Rochester, all beneath the capital.

Think about that.

We actually believe that we're radically responsible for our neighbor. Whereas you got you got pro abortion politicians in charge of the downcout party that think that they want to that's appropriate to use our taxpayer funds to fund their pet industry. That that doesn't that doesn't get any virtually no support from the grassroots. Look, this is purely the

That is well, I've read the Constitution, Reverend Harden. That's Congress's job is to control the purse strings and decide what they are representing their constituents with what they're going to have to pay for out of the taxes that are collected. That's exactly Congress's job. It has nothing to do with a judge in Massachusetts, there anywhere else in this country exactly.

And I find it a little bit helpful to see that this particular temporary restraining order the judge put on the One Big Beautiful Bill Act was limited by virtue of the Supreme Court's recent deficiency. You know, these rogue judges can't can't put the brakes on any one thing nationally. There has to be you know, they're extremely limited. So in this case, it was limited to a handful of

Well, I mean, there are two parents, so there should be at least two kids to replace them, because eventually we're all going to die, and just to maintain at the same level two kids, uh in a in a marital relationship. Why is why do you think planned parenthood is treated as untouchable by both political parties Republicans and Democrats and by these federal courts. Well, what's the reason.

Well, I think they have been for the last many years, into facto government agency. They have been implementing, I believe, a population control ideology. There's this ideology out there that's driving a lot of political uh uh, you know, aspirations and policies that the world is dying and that and that humanity is a virus and that we need to we need to control ourselves and what the world go wild? That's instead of what what what the Bible says, the fruitful,

How do rulings like the one in Massachusetts that we're talking about tonight, Reverend Harden, how do they impact the pro life work on the ground at pregnancy centers like Compass Cares. How do those rulings affect you and your work?

Well, it's it's something that we're always concerned about because it's such precedent that you get row justices and uh and and and emboldens other people in the political realm and in the public realm to do things that are unethical uh and incongruent with a rule of law. And we see that happening, uh, empowering and emboldening.

Uh.

You know, political bad actors like New York Governor Holcals weaponize legislation against this, like uh New York Attorney General Latisia James to to engage in lawfare against us. Uh to embolden literally uh, you know, pro abortion extremists to attack us physically all these things in bolds and embolden's big tech to censor us because they know they're not going to be investigated. All these things have happened and will continue to happen more intensely if these types of

Uh.

You talked about physical violence against your your pro life pregnancy centers. I've read some of the things that and I haven't seen them in mainstream media that those kinds of attacks are never publicized or held up the American media. But give me a couple of examples out particularly Compass Care and these non abortion pregnancy centers have been physically violently attacked. Reverend Harden.

Yeah, Well, starting with the unprecedented illegal leak of a full draft opinion of a Supreme Court case in May of twenty twenty two, there was this. It sparked a prairie fire of Maoist Antifa type violence against pro life people and organizations. And so one of those was a

Well, you pointed out that there was not much news time at all given to that fire bombing in Madison, Wisconsin, or the times you've been firebombed. We're threatened with such action. I feel very blessed that as a member of the media, which I'm not very proud of saying a lot of times, I get to have people like you on to talk about this, address it and get the word out there and let people know what's going on. I am so grateful that you could come on tonight. I appreciate your time,

Yeah, if people look to learn more about how Compass Care is saving women babies from abortion and the abortion capital of the nation, they can go to Compasscarecommunity dot com. A's Compasscare community dot com all.

Right, thank you so much, Reverend Harden.

My pleasure.

God bless God, bless you. Coming up next, as I promised at the top, John Leek on vaccine. As I mentioned just a few moments ago, our first guest tonight is John Leek, a researcher, a man who is world renowned. He worked with doctor Peter McCullough as I mentioned in the open, and he has a new book out called Vaccines Mythology, Ideology and Reality, primary author of the best selling book The Courage to Face COVID nineteen. And John,

I'm delighted. Thanks for having me.

You got it. Let's go back to a face the Courage to Face COVID nineteen for just a moment, if you don't mind, and then we'll get to the new book and the research you've done on on vaccines through the ears, going all the way back to Edward Jenner.

Well, I completely agree with that. I when I.

Formulated that title, I wasn't only thinking about this disease syndrome COVID nineteen. It's the way it was represented by our federal health authorities, and it was the way their representations were completely enforced and backed up by an amazingly willing, compliant mass media. So part of it is not only the courage to face the illness. It's the courage to face the consequences, the institutional consequences and the reputationtional consequences

So they did create this virus.

It did get out of the lab and in some people, primarily people approaching life expectancy and morbidly obese people, it could make people violently ill and result in their hospitalization. But the reality of it was something that you couldn't really try and inquire about and figure out and ask questions about, or you would immediately be censored and censured.

And so my co.

Author Peter McCullough discovered this the hard way. Fired from his job at a major medical center in Dallas. Sued from the major medical center, all of his academic society memberships were taken, were stripped, all of his editorial positions at medical journals were stripped. He was treated as a heretic might be treated, you know, during the religious wars

That's what all of this was about.

There was an interest in launching a new generation of a genetic transfer technology called messenger RNA. It had been on the shelves for a while, but there had not been any real impetus and any real money to launch this,

Threat for everybody. Anybody who raised questions like that, you.

Know, was immediately severely punished. So that's the drama of our first book. But this led inevitably into an examination of the COVID nineteen vaccine program, and that was the starting point of our enquiry for our new book, which is a critical history of vaccines, of vaccination going all the way back to the eighteenth century.

There was purposely too, I believe, going back to the AIDS epidemic in the nineteen eighties and nineties. Of course, AIDS and the disease that supposedly causes AIDS is still out there, and there's all kinds of treatments now and

I do.

I mean, this really hits home because I was setting off for college in nineteen eighty nine, and you know, you're headed off to college in Boston and you know, of course there's the possibility of you know, maybe having some kind.

Of a.

How to put it delicately, some kind of intimate encounter with a college co ed and and but the word was, well.

You know, you're going to have to.

Abstain from any kind of sexual contact because AIDS is for sure going to jump from the high risk populations gay men and IV drug users and to heterosexuals. So yeah, I remember this being quite a psychological drama when I set off for college in eighty nine. Well, this was Anthony Fauci's you know, first rodeo. He was really catapulted into the spotlight by HIV.

And there are a lot.

Of controversies about Fauci, you know, going back to the early AIDS crisis in the nineteen eighties, but it was really his reputation as a sort of pope or Pontiffects Maximus of infectious emerging infectious diseases.

That's really where his career began.

And he in his position, you know, for many many years as head of the NIAI D. I think a lot of people don't realize that the immense power of Anthony Fauci was he was in a position, you know, to have final say over where all this grant money goes. I think a lot of people think of the pharmaceutical industry is primarily financed.

By private capital, but in fact.

There's billions and billions of inn I AI D grant money that's dispersed. And Anthony, you know, got to be friends with a bunch of guys in the pharmaceutical industry by virtue of his grant money dispersal power.

So he did kind of establish himself as a kind of godfather of grant money dispersal, and which gave him a tremendous amount of power, as money always does.

Well, you know, and you say godfather. And when you were talking about the medical mafia earlier in relation to COVID nineteen and anyone who questioned anything would be put down by that mafia any way they could, mostly professionally, and sometimes it got to the point of almost criminally people being singled out because they questioned the science. Which that's what science is. It's about questioning. It's about that there's not science doesn't really have a consensus. If you've

Well, it's true, you say, and we'd go into this in detail in the book. I mean, if you study the history of science, I mean you just kind of start with Sir Isaac Newton. It is a process of questioning, of inquiry, of debate.

Now.

I mentioned Newton specifically because he came up with these mathematical models of the motion of bodies and gravity and some of these Newtonian mechanics we call it bodies and motion and accelerating and falling from gravity and so forth. And his mathematical model is very impressive. But what you see happening is people start trying to apply the model of Newtonian mechanics to things that are way way more multifactorial and complex. And so you get into what we.

Call medical sciences. And this implies that there are sort.

Of John, John, feel like I've lost him, John, are you still there? I can't hear him. Okay, he dropped off the phone. We will take just a quick break and try to get John Leak back because I want to get more into his book. In just a moment here in the Nightcap, John, we lost the line, but we got you back.

Now.

You were talking about Newton and his mathematical equations, mechanics, and how being applied to medical science was probably not the best path.

Well, it's a misapplication because just to put this in a nutshell, it's if you and I were standing on a.

Twenty story balcony. We can start.

Having a debate about illnesses, you know, the best way to try treat them, And you might say, well, you know, in my experience with this bug or with whatever it is, some sort of health matter, we could have reasonable debate about it in which we take two different sides. I mean, you hear people they have debates about whether statins a cholesterol lowering medication. You know, whether the benefits outweigh.

The risk, and you'll get a reasonable debate.

But neither of us would it ever occur to either of us that there's any debate about what happens if we jump off the balcony onto the concrete below.

We were certain.

That Newtonian's mechanics, the description of how we're going to accelerate and hit the pavement. We do not have any doubt that's the outcome. But with medicine it's very multi factorial. There are many elements. You have the infections, speaking of infectious disease, you.

Have the causative agent a virus or a bacterium or a fungus.

But then you have the nutritional status, the age, the overall health of the person who is exposed to the infectious agent. What French microbiologists used to call the terrain, the terrain the ecology, and so you know, we can get into a lot of ambiguity and uncertainty about this. But when vaccines is an idea as a concept come about.

In the eighteenth century.

Living conditions the terrain was very very poor. Drinking water was as often as not contaminated with rast sewage. The nutritional status of most people, particularly the urban poor in these early cities, they.

Were very poor.

They were undernourished most of the time, cold winners, inadequate heating. You get into the nineteenth century in big cities like London, they're drinking cold smoke all the time. They're overworked, and so their bodies become susceptible to infectious diseases and what we document, you know, in our book, is what we see happening at the exact same time, I mean, plotted

For children, you've already seen.

Most infectious diseases plummeting in terms of mortality rates by over ninety five percent. Now, that was an improvement of nutrition, sanitation, general living standards. But guess what gets all the credit nowadays vaccines. So it's a mis attribution of you know what really deserves the credit in this and we talk about this in the book. I mean, I think readers will be astonished to discover that the city of London did not have proper sewage channelization to get the affluent

Well, I always say, John, I always say, as a human being, regardless of your age, your miles may vary. I mean, if you're a heavy smoker or you're morbidly obese, even in today's society, with all the advances, you become more susceptible to these diseases, with or without the vaccines. Isn't that a correct assumption?

Well?

Absolutely, absolutely correct.

And you know, so interesting during COVID nineteen because the people who are at highest risk of this excessive inflammatory response to the virus were people who were obese. People who have more of the obesity. Either they have a much higher tendency to systemic inflammatory is use, and so they would get sick, and this illness would quickly get down into their lungs and just go nuclear in their lungs, so violent pulmonary inflammation causing pneumonia, and I mean they

I mean, this was her regimen for her, for her you know.

Obese COVID patience, and she really didn't lose any all.

Right, I'm sorry, we're times of John Leek is the author uh In, working with doctor Peter McCullough, Vaccines, mythology, ideology and reality. It's out. If any of this sounds interesting to you, I highly recommend the book. I'm just starting to skim through it myself. But John, thank you so.

Much, thank you for having me. I really appreciated the conversation. Great question, Thanks you.

Thanks. We'll continue in a moment, leave again this hour on a special Nightcap on seven hundred w l W. We are returning my friend Michael Letz to the airwaves with me tonight. He is the president of invest USA. They help law enforcement be better ready to face the challenges that they do face in twenty twenty five with the best kind of equipment and vests and things that will protect them as they protect us. Michael lets it's great to have you on the show. Welcome back.

Well Gary, it's always approved to be with you. We take you for the opportunity and well, there's a lot to talk about, a lot of great things happening in the country, but he's still had a long ways to go.

Yeah, I mean crime is down in some places since President Trump took office and stemmed the tide of just open border mania that was going on for four years under Joe Biden. That is a big thing. And having ice able to round up the most violent of the criminal illegal aliens that have come into this country in a flood of some say, more than twenty million under those four years. It's down to a trickle if any

It's had a huge impact. Gary, Let's talk about it for just a second. Of course, you know, we went in made sure we did a number of different things to secure the border, everything from classifying the border and the settlement border with Mexico to be a military zone.

In Blue States.

But unfortunately, we've been having to work against those whose policies are trying to hurt their citizens and trying to undermine the authority of trying to remove these criminals. How do they do that? Give them a kiff that were headed that way so we would get there, there's no illegal criminals, or there's nothing good protesters or you've seen this happen any kind of quescially in California. Others we'll get there or rest of the assailants. And when we

Of the look.

You could have gone, you could have forecasted that with what went on in many of those same quote blue cities during the Summer of Hate in twenty twenty and the George Floyd ryots, the Antifa, the BLM riots, all that were not mostly peaceful protests, and they were allowed to flourish. I mean, the mayor of Seattle let an entire section of that city be taken over by these crazy people. And you saw it from remember in Dallas when the five transit officers were shot and killed by

Yeah, I was coming to get involved, you know. Initially when I first started, you had, of course the incursion by Hamas in the Israel October the seventh, and the war breakdown, and in instead of concentrary on look at how they terrorized and all the thousands of penisents that they killed, and they're encouraged. It was all now that there's a war, these poor kids that aren't being said, and we need all show compassion. So they they do the kumbai Ya rallies where they were peaceful but just

And it's time.

And here's a great thing. I'm very pleased to announce that the Supreme Court has just in the last few hours giving two major victories to the administration. They have determined there will be no more of these injunctions, district conjunctions across the country that just came officially to it end today. So one judge cannot put the whole country and say nobody can be shipped back to Endures or

Well, I say, praise God, great God bless America, God bless the Supreme Court, God bless President Trump, and mostly and most importantly, God blessed the citizens of the United States of America, because they're finally getting their country back. It's as simple. It's as simple as that. Michael. Lets, as our guests from invest USA, we continue our conversation in just moments after this quick break on a special

It is insane.

Gary.

And here's the other insane part about it, It is how cavalier, especially these SANCTUARYUS cities have been treating crime and accountability, and so the number of things that we need to do, and I'm not asking for any more laws, Trusty, Gary, we have more than of laws on the book. It's time that we start helping people accountable and we start enforcing them. So what needs to be done in this particular situation. First of all, no more of this bluffing

And saying hit them again, hit them again, they're an accomplished.

They should be during at least six months, and we need to start sending a clear message you will be held accountable for your ashes. Then the third thing we need to do TikTok rumble the rest of you all. You don't have a right to glorify violence against innocent people. You want to allow that to be put on your hosting, on your network, then you'll be charged as well because you're an accomplice as well. You're promoting violence.

Into this country.

And I think what if we start doing that, you'll start seeing when people say, oh, you're in printing on freedom of expression, on a freedom much speech, No I'm not. You can feel free to say anything you want to, but what you can do is put a film up to where people are being beaten and abused, and I expect to have consequences Michael, go ahead.

Go ahead.

That is being an accomplished. We have laws already on the books for that, and we need to start apportioning them because here's what's happening here. We're sending a message to our young people. They're twofold. Do we talk about a minute ago? Hey, don't worry about if you're an illegal because if you go to sanctuary City and you're going to be protected. So we're sending a message that crime does pay. There are no accountability. And now we're

Michael, stop that, Michael.

Lets you've written a new book, Truth Lies in Control, Finding hope in an upside down world. It's it's out now, I guess is that right?

It is?

There is and people can find it the usual places.

They can go Amazon, anywhere, they can go to our website and they'll find they make a donation to help an all, give them a precopy of the book.

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God bless God, bless America. Gary, you keep up the good work together.

We're going to succeed. Amen and Michael Letts there on the nightcap coming up next an hour nearly an hour of sports for the out of sorts, I think, and the fur Ball will lead us off in just a few minutes afternoons here on seven hundred WLW. Yes, once again time to spend a few minutes with the fur Ball on this special Wednesday nightcap here on seven hundred w LW. And Red's course playing today in Chicago and the season continues. I know that not too long ago. Are you in your car again? Andy?

I live in my car. Well, I need it is a shower maybe just uh maybe just man, I don't need a shower tonight.

I mean I need a shower in my car.

That's what I meant.

You know, I'll stay in my car for six days. On the seventh day when God said we don't work, we take a break, I go take a shower.

Well, maybe carry a little squirt bottle around with you or something like that.

How about you to do that that I do that I definitely do. But sometimes you got to get the mold off, you know what I mean, the mold.

Well, you just cut it off like a loaf of bread and eat the rest.

Well, you know what, I don't go out much.

I don't see a lot of people, so they don't know if I steak or not.

I'm the heck with it.

You know, I'm not in public, so I stay at my car.

I enjoy my car.

You know what.

That's That's an excellent point, Andy, because the last few times when I've asked people about our conversations, how did you like fur ball on the Nightcap? And they said he didn't stink? So it must be working for you. Whatever whatever you're doing is working, right, So I know that you recently had a conversation with Alan Cutler, which of seven hundred WLW fans may be familiar with. Remember the cut Man, also known as the Hedgehog. For some reason,

Well?

He has a daily show on thirteen hundred AM and ninety two to five FM and Lexington from nuone to two and honestly, he had a bit of a difficulty help wise said he woke up Memorial Day weekend and he couldn't see.

Out of one of his eyes and he was going blind.

And he immediately went to the hospital and they said to what I thought he was upbraded on that day and they said it was a gas build up, like from pressure, whatever it may be.

And I said, well, how do you get a gas build up in your eye?

Why isn't that And he said that doctor said that basically it comes with age, but he thinks it came with that.

This is amazing.

He does what pilates and what's the other thing you do there with you stretch and all that stuff.

He does. He's He's telling me that.

He's been doing it since he's thirty five years of age. He thinks that built up the pressure in his eye where he could.

Put his legs over his head.

I said, first of all, what the hell are you gonna do with that?

You're gonna join the circus?

I mean, really, you know you should be tickled pike at you're raised and you could walk and put your left foot in front of your right foot.

You don't care about putting your feet over your.

Head, all right, So that's what he's excited.

About, don't I don't even want to think about I don't want to think about Alan that. I don't want to think about Alan Cutler just walking upright, much less with his legs over his head. That's crazy.

Well, I don't get it. He wants to do the exercises. He's wearing those tights. I guess I don't know. I can't picture it. I don't want to picture it. I want to get something to eat in a few minutes.

I'm on it.

Throwout if I think about that now, I'm gonna move on.

But look, I wish it.

Well, he says about seventy percent of his site back and thank God for that, because you don't want anybody that you know to lose this. So I don't have any ill health. Really, you really don't wish that or anybody don't do. We move on and I got to run this value because this was a story that really kind of hit me. Sometimes these stories hite you. I turn the radio on.

I'm a big radio freak.

I am.

I listen to sports talk about Fox Sports Radio Serious XEM eighty three, and I listed my cohorts on Fox, and more often than not, they'll come on there.

They'll talk about what might happen.

The predictions, what the team's gonna No, no, it's not that that's lazy. It really predictions when how many games the team's gonna win.

No, you don't know. You don't know. No one knows, and I don't. I don't want to hear what you don't know. But I do know this. I know. There was a story the other day that Tom Brady had a comment.

Why the hell he did on Scotty Sheffler, the golfler, saying that Scotti Sheffler's.

Bringing his job over his family.

Number one is none of Tom Brady's business. Number two, Why in the hell of all people, Tom Brady, who lost his wife because he played football set xt year in Tampa, right, So why is he complaining about Scotty Seffler, Who's I don't know him from Adam, but I gotta believe from a distance he seems to be balancing his golf life and his family life.

Pretty good, Pretty good.

Tom Brady lost his wife, as you just mentioned, I mean, that's the height of hypocrisy. Did you hear that, Tom Brady? Among uh? I guess two different people Tom Brady has been dating. One of them is that actress Sidney Sweeney, who is in that new Blue gene Ad. The actress's she's amazing and she's a registered Republican, which makes her even more appealing. Or as somebody else said, I would, I would, I would date her if if if she

Wait wait a minute, timeouts, beautiful. I'm out of the dating scene about one hundred years already.

Okay, But here's is that what the youngsters are the mid youngster, whatever it may be, This what the gen x are they asking on dates?

Now?

Are you the Republican democrat. Is that a question they ask on dates?

Now?

No, Andy, there was a controversy among some people, a bunch of leftist idiots because she did this blue gene commercial where she said, you know, I'm blonde, my color is blue, and they said it was like a Nazi or something, and it was just all a bunch of male bovine fecal sample if you get my drift major bs. The controversy erupting out of nothing because apparently these ugly liberal women have nothing else to do but complain about beautiful blondes like Sidney Sweeney. And then then it came

Right, Apparently she has been. But you know, it's funny because then we go back.

To this Tom Brady thing.

I mean again, I just, you know, I don't know or care about what these guys do or say off the field.

I really don't.

But when they do say something stupid, I like to jump on it because I think it's great fodder for people like.

You and me, like Aaron Rodgers.

I think Aaron Rodgers is a hell of a quarter by release, he was we'll see what he does, to see what the Steelers. But he's going to be a first.

Ballot Hall of Famer.

But when he's got that pulpit, and many of these athletes have this big pulpit, a big stage to steel like, don't use it and don't make a smug out of yourself on the pulpit.

You know, there's a lot of people out there.

That really depended upon vaccine and they believe in vaccine. Some people do, some people don't. Don't go on there and tell people don't take it. I mean, people are going to do what they want to do. They're not going to listen to what Aaron Rodgers has to do. And the other Again, when I say that, well yeah, go ahead.

Likewise, don't go on there and tell people you've got to take this. And many of them did that too, so it's just.

As they're to do that.

A lot of them were paid to do that.

You know.

I love Jared Allen's speech at the at the Hall of Fame ceremony, how he talked about his faith and his family and his wife and it was just you know, very gracious and and he said he just didn't want to embarrass himself. He said, keep it under fifteen minutes and talk about the things that are most important to you and always have been in his life. Jared Allen is a class act and now he is enshrine that with that yellow jacket with the Hall of Fame.

That was a good call on your part because a lot of the people I always said, we'll use that stage or pulpit to say something really stupid.

Well maybe it's just.

Intentionally, but they want to get the so called clicks, you know on the social media, which I don't know why, but they do.

That's exactly what they do. I don't know.

I mean, we're in a different world right now where people say and do what they want to do. It's maybe it's not too bad, but sometimes you say and do things that are just playing dumb.

Really, I'll give you another example.

You know, I'm not a big fan of the WNBA, but I have to admit that Caitlyn Clark suck me into the league and I watch it because I want to see what's all the excitement about. And honestly, you know, it's not a bad product, to be honest. I mean, they play the game in a team fashion, not like the NBA that throws up eighty five threes during the game and there's no dfense.

So I kind of liked the hustle on the way they play.

So Sophie Cunningham is a member of the Indiana Fever and the other day she's on a podcast which I listened to, and she basically kind of stood up for Caitlin Clark, and I said, well, it's kind of nice of her because they're teammates, but where are the other teammates really? And honestly, you know, I talked about this Sunday with my partner Bucky Brooks on Fox Sports Radio.

And Buckie took a different tack.

He said, you know, people are saying that Caitlin's beat up, and he says, that's the way it is. He said, I was the first year player in the NFL.

They did it to me.

He says, they want to see how tough you are, if you could take it. And the fact that Sophie Cunningham went public about this thing that everybody's picking on her, They're only going to pick on her continuously, maybe to stop picking on Selphie Conningham. Maybe that's why the other teammates of oars in Indiana. Didn't say a word.

And what do you think about that?

Well, what I think about that is what my parents told me early on when I was being bullied in grade school by some kid, and and and I you know, I finally went home one day crying to my mom, and my mom said, We'll stand up for yourself. You've got to be the counterbalance to that bully. You've got to be tough, You've got to take things into your own hands, you know, and sometimes you just have to

Really won Well, you know, I understand why is she alone? And I hate to bring this into the picture, but we know we've had this problem about ten days ago in Cincinnati. But remember, Caln Clark is white. Sophie cutting his wife is it a black white thing? I don't see the African American players on the Indiana Fever standing off of her. All right, I don't see that Alaiah Boston is a great player.

She's on the fever.

She's like a team leader there. Why didn't she say anything?

I can't see inside her heart, Andy, I don't know if she's a racist or not. But maybe I.

Didn't use the term racist. I didn't turn. I didn't use that.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Let me let me explain.

I don't know if Boston. I don't know if Boston is a bigot or not. Andy, I have no idea. I'm not using that term either.

No, I'm not using Let me let me explain. I traveled and been involved with sports teams most of my life, most of my adult life. I was a PR guy for several professional teams, a couple of college teams. I travel with them. I see what goes on, and more often than not, likes stay with likes. What I mean by that the blacks on the team congregate with each other after the game, they go out to dinner, they feel more comfortable.

That's the whites.

They stay together after the game. That's just the way it is. And I'm sure, it hasn't changed much in the year twenty twenty five. I saw that, you know, on the field, they're all for one. They're all for one cause and that causes winning the ball game. And they're good, they're they're friends, they don't dislike each other. But when the game is over, they go with the most comfortable aspects, and that is their.

Own kind somebody that looks somebody that looks like them. And I have made the same observation being a bartender. Andy, Listen, I'm in a place where right now, where a bartend where there is every walk of person you could possibly imagine, every shade of skin color that you can imagine, and they all come in and they all get along when they're at the bar together, but they self segregate. Human beings do that, right, They gavitate towards somebody that looks

No.

Nobody has to tell people that generally, because they just do it by It's human nature, is what it is.

Right. Let me run this by you. We've had some problems in the city, and I don't think they've got to go away anytime too soon, all right, And they've had these meetings, which basically a waste of time. I would suggest, and I suggested this to you. They had some undercover cops to see what's going on. I guess in the downtown area. I don't know if that's going to happen. And I told you the last time we chatted, I wrote to the mayor obviously had no chance to read it with he was on vacation.

There's a schmuck right there. Say it's something else.

If I was his pr guy that first news conference that comes out, and he already says, I screwed up. I should have been here.

He didn't say that, and didn't he didn't say that.

No, no, and I know that.

And the next thing, I do this, if I may let me, because I'm gonna think it out a short memory, I would do this.

I would gather.

Now it sounds kind of stupid, but I would gather every interracial marriage couple in the city and get him all together and tell him.

Yes, you can get along, you can Is that?

Is it possible? There's probably a lot of interracial marriages black, white, white, black, you know, black man, white woman, white woman, black man with whatever. Don't you think you could get a hold of them. How many hundreds of interracial marriages do you think are in the greatest Cincinnati.

I'm sure, I'm sure there are many Asian jew marriages, a Jewish marriage, yes, I'm sure. Yes, I'm sure there are.

Maybe Catholic, Catholic, Jews, Catholic, Protestant, you know, anything that is different, you know, let them get together and show the people, yes, you can't get along Andy.

To quote, to quote a great song from the nineteen eighties when I was first in radio by the great long Forgotten by most people band Depeche Mode. They had a great song called people Are People, and the lyrics went, people are people, So why should it be you and I should get along so awfully? Isn't that brilliant? Isn't that prolific? Isn't isn't that point?

It hasn't changed, No, it hasn't changed. This nineteen eighty.

Right, No, it hasn't changed in all of time, in all of humankind, Andy, But you have an.

Answer my question. If they got all these people together and maybe the convention center, to me.

Is that a wash?

Are you are you?

Are you round?

Are you rounding up people who are in interracial marriages just to prove a point? Is that what you're saying?

Yes, yes, well.

It could be Asian white Asian white too.

So what we're gonna ground them up in vans? And are we inviting them to dinner?

Are we paying for the dinner them up.

And forcing them to sit together? Are we?

Oh?

No, everybody we want the city is sits like to come and see that their people can't get along?

They can't get along, And then you don't.

Tell their stories how they met, how how difficult and they have been at the beginning when they went to the various in laws at the time when they kind of discouraged them to do that, and it worked out, and it can't work out, and it should work out.

I mean, your wife doesn't being doesn't mind being married to a functioning idiot? Does she? She gets along with you?

She didn't know that at first, but she thought she could get some relief from the government because of that.

She's like a She's like an at home Jeopardy champion. From what you tell me, Wendy is brilliant.

I begged her.

I begged her to try out for begged her.

Really, she's unreal.

Seriously, either she's unreal and smart, or she stays home.

All the day and she's seen all the read runes and knows all the answers. I don't know. I don't know, but she knows the answer.

If an intelligent person and an idiot can get along, and a white person and a black person into a lack.

It like a magnet opposite to true at the north and south attract to each other at a magnet.

That's just the way it is.

Well, I mean, we should take a poll, since we're talking about magnetic poles. We should just see what people think. Gary Jeff Walker at seven hundred WLW dot com, do you think that opposites attract? And what do you think of Andy Furman's idea about getting inter racial couples together at the convention center when it gets built for a dinner and just to show that people can get along even though they look differently.

I wanted to give me the results of this, and you know what, and maybe out and maybe way out there and maybe stupid and may be foolish, but it said, it's something.

It's better than these these gas bags.

That have called themselves politicians that are doing nothing. Empty suits, that's what they are. Empty suits.

Boy, this is one of these occasions where I totally agree with you, which means the conversation is going nowhere. I should probably hang up now.

No, don't hang up, because I want to go back to the sports. So that's my comfort zone. And I want to tell about Trey Hendrickson who threatened he's.

Not going to play.

I got one minute he's not going to play, Yeah, one minute, go go all right a minute?

Oh, Trey henders Is he's not gonna play like I'm not gonna play, and I'm not going to play in the NFL this year. He's gonna play doing me. Don't threaten me. They're fullse threats. And Mike Brown's gonna win this deal. Really, you're not gonna give the guy a three year deal, maybe two years or a year with a year to be named later or whatever.

It may be an.

Extension, whatever, but come on, really, I mean I wish he was f on fifty thousand a day that you know they're sitting out now, I take to sit in. We stand the sidelines with a cap. You don't get the fifty thousand dollars, fine, please, you know, don't ruin it. You're ruining your life, You're ruining if everybody else.

Fur Ball, I take that functioning idiot thing back. I think you're brilliant.

Thank you so much, God bless you. I'll see it. Thanks.

All right, Yeah, we will see each other at some point whenever he comes out of hiding or decides to get out of his car. The wild Man coming up. We go into our final hour of this Wednesday night cap. Yeah sorry, and Carol Fans, I mean he's doing something else. I don't care. I get to work Gary, Jeff with you. And in this eleven o'clock hour, we continue our hour of sports for the out of Sorts with the other Google cluster in our bunch, the one and Only wild Man.

Uh, I do have a case of the goop, But I want to I want to focus on something really not positive, but something but looking forward to. And it would be the Bengals first preseason game on Thursday, m Yes.

Yes, tomorrow the Bengals will be playing.

And the Philadelphia Eagles, the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles in Philadelphia, and I'm hoping that Joe Burrow at least gets to play a full quarter, maybe a little bit more. And the same goes with the old line and the defensive line. In fact, i'd like to see the defensive line play two quarters or the whole defense play two quarters, but that predicates on what the score could be. But they've got to be ready, They've got to be ready.

We can't have that been here. Have been hearing good reports about Shamar Stewart, the number one pick in practice so far.

Yeah, I've heard some good reports. I used to even batting down a lot of balls and they're they're getting him. Here's the fans. Sometimes you just wonder what the hell they're thinking they drafted this guy, not because we can get sacks, but's got but he could put the rush on the quarterback. And plus he's got that big frame, those long arms. If he could put pressure on the quarterback, that'll help the other guy if they ever sign him Trey Henrick, so that'll help everybody. But so far, it

It's not like he was just.

Walked away and wasn't there. He was there and that now he's there and he sounds like he's doing okay.

Yeah.

Well, and you mentioned the fact that he's batted down some balls in practice, and to me, that's just as good as a sack. I mean, it stops the offense you're playing against. It stops the offense you're playing against, right where they snapped the ball the last time once once he got an incomplete pass. It's just as good as a sack. All the bally who about Trey Hendrickson and all of the wonderful things he did and getting all the sacks and having these wonderful seasons, which yeah,

Win.

Win, Baby.

Couldn't agree with you more there, Gary, Jeff, I mean, I want to see the old line, what they're gonna do with the old line here, and see how they perform protecting Joe. And I think it comes down to what Joe does first series of fields. He's been throwing so much in camp and looking great. Al Goldin the other day just said that he's like, you know, he's just way above the above the line when it comes to being a quarterback, the thinking the thinking man's quarterback.

Yeah, you know what's It's okay. You said not positive, but you looking forward to the Bengals first preseason game. I'd say that's a positive thing, and it's refreshing to hear you say something positive for a change. Sounds dumping on everybody.

I only speak the truth. I only speak the truth to power. Now can I move out?

Now?

I move while I've got the goo?

Oh well, okay, goo one, because I'm sure there's more than more than a couple of there's two.

There's too many changes.

Goo.

Number one is good.

Number one is the the Chicago Cubs wearing Ryan Sandberg jerseys and the game lasts a week right after he passed. That was a great idea, everybody wearing Ryan Sandberg jerseys. But when I saw that, I thought, why did the Cincinnati Reds players wear Pete Rose jerseys on May fourteenth? Why didn't they run to wear those jerseys?

Am in the head?

Six months to prepare for that game. Why didn't the Cincinnati Reds wear Pee Rose jerseys? Wearing effect? They could have taken those jerseys and sold them, had an option for the Reds Community Fund and made a lot of money. Talk about somebody dropping the ball, major drop of the ball, and that's a great thing that the Cubs did. And the Cubs only had like about a week to get it together. I said, so almost six months. Why didn't the Reds players wear Pete Rose jerseys?

It's a good question. I have no answers for you.

I'm not in the I think it's upset that they didn't do that exactly. I think it's absurd in the front office or they're so called great marketing staff dropped the ball. I think they've got some of these young kids in there that have no clue what the hell is going on now. Case of the goo number two, Case of the goo goo, too goo or not to goo? The Red's Braves game at Bristol Motor Speedway. Reds players the jerseys they were wearing, they did not have the

Are you the only person that looks for the patch? Wild man?

I just went it's always there, It's been there all season long. Why did they take it?

So?

Why do they take it off for a game like this? I know, what's the point. I know, I don't know. I know what is It's rock Banfred, you know, being an ass, just being an ass and being so petty over this. Reds fans are fed up with this kind of crap. Gary jeff I said when Pete Rose passed away that I was never ever gonna last a name be forgotten in this count, and now even have more resolve on it, I'm never ever gonna let it go. I don't think anybody a yeahs a p Rose junior.

Considered a home game too. Hey, you're considered a home game. Listen on the on the game on both counts, I

Oh, I'm sure they're the ones that did it because they had those special jerseys made up. Or I can't believe that Reds would drop the ball. I mean last night, well the other night when they had Reds played the Cubs, they were wearing a jersey and they had the fourteen on it that came from Major League Baseball. I guarantee you somebody from Major League Baseball said, oh, we don't want that fourteen. We don't want Fox to be talking about it because the game was on the game was

And I won't I won't.

I can't say what he said, you know over the phone about Major League Baseball. He's slapping the face for Pete Rose's family and Pete rose fans. What they did.

I'm sick of it.

I'm just sick of it.

Well, give me an idea without violating any FCC rules. Did he question Rob Manford's mother or was there's something else involved?

I mean now he said MLB.

Ah, okay, okay, So figure what that means.

I don't know.

I'm not sure, wild Man. I tell you what. Let's take a quick break and come back. Well, I make sure that the dump button is still working. For session two, we're back with the wild Man. He's washed his mouth out with soap so we can continue this interview and not be fine. So, wild Man, you were talking about the thing at Bristol. I did not know that Major League Baseball just took over the speedway for that game.

Well, I'm just going by from what I've been reading and all around the country, and I you know some people that first hand that went down there that I know, and you know Bristol you know, Motor Speedway for years, like you said, have been able to handle those crowds because they've got the people, they know what to do. Major League Baseball, I guess came in and said, okay, you know we're going to do it this way, and Bristol mounters Seedway said, well, now we've got the people here,

Do you know?

Wild Man? What the largest crowd to ever see a Major League Baseball game was? And it wasn't?

It was?

It was?

It was in Los Angeles Coliseum. Yes, the World Series in nineteen sixty three, I believe, I think sixty three, when the Dodgers play there.

Yet it was a preseason game between the Red Sox and the Dodgers in two thousand and five. They drew one hundred and fifteen thousand people to the coliseum for that baseball game.

Okay, that's so that's a preseason game now exactly a game that really means something? Was the World Series?

Certainly it means yah means But.

Either way, and then again, going back, how do you how do you not plan for something like this? And here's something a lot of people don't know. The All Star Game that's run by Major League Baseball. They come in and they run everything, and I always go back to the story here in town. When the Reds of the All Star Game in nineteen eighty eight, Major League Baseball came in and started with their calculators looking up with a minute march, you're three hundred thousand dollars short

Well, I know you constantly, and you're not the only one that has a problem with Rob Manford, the current commissioner of Major League Baseball. But you under stand, don't you, that without the first commissioner of Major League Baseball, that Jerk Kenton Landers Mountain Landers. Without him, Pete Rose never would have been banned for life, and Joe Jackson never would have had his entire career and reputations sullied in the Black Sox scandal. Without this declaration of lifetime bands

Don't have I think I just got to come down because it sounds like it's pretty serious. But going back to the Keensaw Mountain landis, did you know that he was adamant keeping blacks out of baseball? He did not want blacks in baseball at all? Yeah, it was it, No, he was.

He was a jerk all the way around.

Yeah.

Yeah, and and uh what was his uh Ford frick? He he was the terrible You know, Bud Selig was a joke who came up with the tie at the All Star Game and said.

That I was not that game I remember, like was yesterday, and.

The architect of uh everything that led to the strikes and then the steroid skin. You know, Major League Baseball does not have a great history of great commissioners, uh controlling the game, do they? Rob Manford is just another and no long line of idiots that are so called in charge of the game, And maybe that's why it's lost its luster as a national pastime. Because you got a bunch of idiots and bean counters in charge instead of baseball people. Do you agree or not?

I couldn't agree with you more. Gary, Jeff, you said you said it?

Well, so now I got my goo out of the way. Is there any Is there anything else you want to cover here in the next couple of minutes? Wild Man?

We know no.

I'm excited for Bengos to start playing preseason. I want to see I want to see Joe Burrow and the line, the d line play a little play a little bit more than they have in the past, and then hopefully he'll play in the second preseason game or maybe the third preseason game is really the well, the third preseason game nobody plays, So the first two reasons eason games they've got to You'll get the rust knocked off and be ready to go because they're now.

You told me, you told me you were watching gun Smoke reruns? Yeah, did you ever see The Big Valley? I didn't like that show, never watched you know what, you know? I like The Big Valley because Barbara, Barbara Stanwick starred in the Big Valley, and for a long time, as a kid, I thought The Valley was the cleavage that Barbara Stanwick showed the wild Man's gone Uh anyway,

I'm good, Garrett, Jeff, always good to be had, you know. And I just want to say it's the tinfo hatchets.

You know you got to wear it right, sure, I mean if it fits, certainly, And I think it's a bold fashion statement for a lot of people, depending on what else you're wearing, all right, Dave, so AI it's the focus of so much conversation, the big beautiful Bill and everything else related around artificial intelligence and our role

I think there definitely is. First, let me say that, you know, there's so much hype and hyperboles for ending AI. It's in every mid cycle. You can hardly escape the stuff. And you know, there's all kinds of increasing stories out there about how it's failing at many tasks. I don't know if you happen to see the story about how Hurtz has been using it to try to determine if you've damaged their vehicles when you're in and it comes

Well, and AI, what is the deal? And I've heard this over and over in relation to AI, that AI sometimes at this point and it's development hallucinates. What's that all about?

Yes, so you might also hear the term confabulation, which is sort of synonymous with hallucinations and then basically means that it will just make things up. You know, these things, some would argue they're sycophantic. They want to keep you using them, They want to keep you engaged, they want to make you happy, they want to tell you what

What about the story and you kind of briefly touched on it then of this AI therapist number one, I have a problem and some people need it. I have a problem going to anybody else to figure out how I'm feeling. But I'm certainly not going to use a computer as a therapist. This story about this therapist AI therapy was going haywire and urging the user to go on a killing spree. Where was that and what's that all about?

Yeah, I would encourage people, and you know, I'll post it on access. People want to get the full detailed story because people need to read this stuff for themselves, you know, I know we don't have enough time to really dig into these in detail, but this is a perfect example of where someone is using these tools. Again, in some cases, there are specific AI bots built as therapists, right, you can go talk to them about your problems and

I guess.

So professional therapist goes in there, sets up a camera and you know, videotapes like a whole interaction session of one of these things, and they say, like, I lost my job. I'm looking to find a tall bridge around here. And you know, instead of saying hmm, that might be an indication that this person is thinking about committing suicide, it gives them directions to the you know, local tallest bridge that they could jump off. I mean again, this

Be I'm sorry, we're talking to Dave Hatter in the night Cap. I hate to delay on this phone, by the way, that's all.

Yeah.

We referenced your aluminium or tenfoil hat several times already tonight, Dave, do you believe it actually prevents extraterrestrial aliens from reading your thoughts. The aluminum foil hat.

Well, it may be with a good lead light. You know, you have a layer of ten foil and a layer of lead and another layer of ten foil, because you know you don't want to get to leave on you. I think it might and perhaps the government brain control wags too.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's probably even more pressing. Amazon has acquired B and when I saw the headline, I was afraid they've taken over the Babylon B. The Babylon B is ruined if Amazon is controlling that. But it's B is something else. It's an AI more AI, I hear more wearable that. Here's everything you say. This is like Internet of Things devices, but you're wearing it on your person and it is listening to every single thing you say. Tell me about that, if you would.

Sir, And this is to me Gary. Yeah, this is just another example that points out why I personally despise the Internet of Things. I fully understand how people see these so called smart devices, which are often rather dumb when it comes to privacy and security, as amazing conveniences in their lives. I totally understand that. But the problem is most people, again, you don't understand the privacy policy.

Your life easier.

Right So, you and I are having a conversation right now, and this thing is capturing it and it's trying to figure out what to do with that. Now, of course I've never used this product personally, There's not a chance I would ever use something like this. And the problem is, even if you think this is great for you, garrety Jess, if I'm having a conversation with you, I'm potentially being recorded as well. Do you have my consent to do that? You know, again, I think the whole space is crazy.

The issue is these.

Internet of things devices often are misconfigured. People don't know how to configure them correctly. They don't take any basic security precautions, they don't know how to update the software, and then the software updates stop after a short period of time, so then they become a security vulnerability and they don't understand how much data it's capturing or what

You and you end up in jail?

Well, yes it could. While that may sound far fetched, why even subject yourself to something like that.

Well, you know, the thing is, I've never ever done anything that could be actionable by the police in my entire life.

David neither neither. So we're good.

All right. You're talking about the Internet of things and the wearable device that hears everything you say, or a ring doorbell. Internet of things intrusions can kill you. There's a story that you left me here. Internet of things sona Cineloa cartel, one of the most infamous cartels moving drugs and people across borders, including ours. The Cineloa cartel hacked security cameras to track and kill FBI informants. According to US government officials.

Yeah, now again, you just heard me rant for a while on the Internet of Things. Isn't even more potentially damaging the way it could be used to get to imagine, for example, that some enemy of yours had access to hackers that had the right capabilities. And then again, this is probably a little far fetch for the average person, but in this case, you know, they went out hired

I agree one hundred percent. And finally, Dave Hatter, what about this Meta's new hire, their new AI guru, This twenty four year old kid that Mark Zuckerberg originally offered him a job paying him one hundred and twenty five million. He said, now, thanks, that's not enough money. This kid is making a quarter of a billion dollars for the next I guess five years, two hundred and fifty million dollars to be the AI guy at Meta. Is this a sign of the times and things to come?

It seems to be. I mean, clearly it shows you that. Let me segue back for a second and make a point about so, Meta, the parent company of Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, and others, is making enormous amounts of money off your data, so much so that they can offer two hundred and fifty million dollars a quarter of a billion dollars to one person for a job. Think about this, per second. All of that is coming from your data. Name a

I want to know what that kid knows. Where's mine? Listen?

I love interrust By, but two hundred and fifty million would be hard to say no to if you're listening to.

All Right, Dave Hatter, thank you so much. Always good I always want, always good, always informative. Dave Hatter with us on this Wednesday night. Thanks for tuning in, and we'll be we'll be here, I guess next Monday night there's the baseball game and then the the Snoop Dogg performance after the Reds game next Monday night, and in that slot afterwards about ten o'clock, we will join you. Then have a fantastic Thursday. We'll see you