I don't want to be an American. Y Oh, they're not your granddad's Republican party anymore. Did you see those fireworks last night? I did, and enjoyed it thoroughly. Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock, Dana White, fight fight fight awesome, absolutely beyond the pale. And then the president's speech.
I mean, plenty of other great speakers on the stage last night in Milwaukee, but they did save the best for last in some ninety minutes, calmly, with loving regard for every American no more mean tweet Donald quite impressive, I thought, Gary Jeff Ben for Scott Sloan on this Friday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty four. And a great lineup of guest today, Well it's
I think it's great, which is really ultimately all the matters. But first and foremost, I'm gonna talk to an old friend of mine, we're radio friends. One day he is going to have his private jet and he is gonna fly up and meet Chris to two point zero and I are somewhere in hopefully take us away. H Forensic psychologists based out of Austin, Texas. My friend doctor John Huber joining in on this Friday morning on seven hundred WLW. Hello doctor Hubert, Hello, Good morning, Gary, Jeff. How
are you this morning? I just I feel so invigorated. Maybe it's I was. I was shooting up the Republican National Convention last night after work at the bar, and uh, it was quite a good buzz, That's all I could. And it just felt like everybody in that room, or maybe anybody who was possibly watching, was catching that buzz. And I'm sure that drives Democrats absolutely crazy. Where are you, by the way, I am in Austin, Texas, and I'm sitting outside. You know, are we
getting too much noise outside? Do you no? We like the birds. We liked the accompaniment of the birds with the conversation. So tell me what's the latest and greatest with doctor Hubert, And then I've got some questions for you. Well, you know, I'm just kind of excited watching everything happen. Like you said, you know, we got the RNC and then you know, a short time after that, we're going to have the DNC, and everybody's watching, you know, because our president, our sitting president,
now has his uh COVID. You know, he said if he got sick, he may he may be withdrawing, so I think, uh, you know, everything's still up in the air. What what our presidential tomorrow? Tomorrow, tomorrow or Sunday. What's your pick? We're taking lots, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Yeah, Sunday, All right, very good. Well what's your pick? What did you pick? What did you pick? I picked last week, so I'm already out of it. I picked last
week? Right, Well, yeah, go ahead. Well, you know I was going to say, you know, just because he actually steps down even next week sometimes doesn't mean he was already gone last week. Oh. I think it's been several several months since since the beginning of weekend at Bernie's, Washington, d C. Style, Right, And it's kind of interesting to look, you know, as a psychologist, though I've never assessed him, and all I can do is look at the same behavior everybody else looks
at. Yes, you best best believe your eyes because they ain't lying, nor your ears. I think you're right. I mean, all it seems all he seems to have left now is regurgitation of the talking points that they told him to use forty years ago. I just watched a speech somebody sent me of Joe Biden in nineteen eighty five railing railing against the Reagan administration for being racist, and he was, he was panderin Joe back then, and
nothing really has changed. But that's all his muscle memory will allow him to just go back. And you know how famous our president is for using somebody else's work calling it his own pledgerism, you know, And I kicked students out of university for pledgarizing much less than what he's done, and yet we elevated him to president. So so it's a mixed up world. So, doctor Huber, let me ask you about President Trump, and did you did
you see or catch any of the speech last night? I you know, I fell asleep, I'll be honest with you, sitting there in the living room, and I just, you know, it's been it's been a long, long couple of weeks. And I've got, you know, a busy week coming up, and just doing lots of prep because I'm I'm actually in court next week, and I'm a forensic psychologist, so going over notes and stuff like that, and no doubt, sometimes it just catches up with you.
So well, here here's my what I gleaned from it was that he was more measured and more careful and softer than I had seen him. And somebody else said they can many people mention that his eyes actually look different. So talk about what happened to the president last Saturday in Pennsylvania and how that I believe. I believe it was God, and I believe that he has been changed by this event. I don't think you can help but be changed
by an event like that. If you're not changed by an event like that, you're just a total zombie sociopath. And I don't think that Trump is
either one of those. But tell me from a psychological standpoint, how in an event like that, Because you deal with people who are suffering from PTSD and have traumatic events occur that mark their life, that marked their life for the rest of their life, tell me, tell me how an instant like that, that near death experience can change a person and may have changed Donald
Trump. It does change you. I mean, you know, the the the fact is he's been running around for his whole life with this, uh you know, this adolescent kind of you know, young adult attitude that you know, he's untouchable, He's going to live forever. Nothing's going to catch up to him and then literally he faced death. I mean, and and there's a lot of stuff going on, and I think that Donald Trump, of of you know, three months ago, would have railed, would have
just railed on everything come out of that situation. Instead, you know, I think he's looking at the fact that, hey, you know, he's not going to live forever, and there could be some you know, crazy person or some some situation out there, even even a plane crash, you know, if he has a mechanical failure on his plane. I mean, there's a lot of things, and all of a sudden, I think he's looking at that fact, and I think it's taken taken some of the edge
off his corners. And it doesn't mean he's going to be any less effective, but maybe he's just gonna be a little soft spoken for a while until they kind that gets through all this and that look in his eyes, and that could be a lot of different things. At this point, he made be on a little bit of anxiety medication, which I would I would probably be upset or dismayed if he isn't, because that was very traumatic and he he unfortunately has a job to do and he's trying to get elected and he's
got to take that next step. And it's just like you know, any of our musicians or TV personalities or movie stars anything like that, they have some kind of situation like that, they're going to come out and they're they're going to have something, you know, really probably light and nothing really intense, but something just kind of take the edge off of him so he doesn't come across, uh with that anger and you know, because that's a fear
response when you come across with that anger like that. Yeah, yeah, And you've seen and we've seen, we've seen the anger in Joe Biden almost the man. The man is deathly afraid of reality. He's afraid he's losing his mind. I'm convinced that he he knows, and that's why he's been digging in his heels so hard to stay in the race and to stay in power, because he knows this is it. And that fear has fueled those angry outbursts that we've we've seen, I mean, the interview with Lester Holt
earlier in the week. Uh oh yeah, so let's and that was so edited and you still saw the anger, oh yeah. So uh So the other thing, the other side of this coin for me psychologically, since you're a psychologist, is that a traumatic event like what happened to President Trump could
also work the other way, It could make some completely fall apart. But I think it says a lot about the strength and the character of former President Trump that even in that moment, he was cognizant enough to let people know he was okay, and you know, kind of like the athlete giving the thumbs up and they're moving them off the cart on the field, going to
the locker room. But it was the same thing with the secret Now a lot of people are saying, and I've got two Secret Service agents on a little bit later on the program this morning, but a lot of people have conjunctured that they never should have let him get up at all, because if a camera can see you, then a second shooter could have seen you. But he just popped up like toast and punked his fist in the air, telling people that he was okay and they were going to continue the fight,
fight, fight, And I I admire that. But somebody else had this happen with a different demeanor, a different care doctor, a different personality, they might have completely crumbled. True, absolutely, absolutely, and I think I think there's probably a lot of that adrenaline rush and that that moment when he thinks, oh crap, I am alive. Wow, it didn't work. And I say that with I say that every morning, oh crap, I am alive. Well, and then and then you know, he probably
needed to change his output when he got into the car. You know, I don't know, because because when that realization hit, you know that that that was that close. I mean, I it's easy to lose control. It's easy to lose control. And if nothing else upset stomach, he probably wasn't very hungry for a while, and then he was starving. You know, it was like when that fight or fly mechanism kicks in. You're ready to fight. That's at adrenaline rush and you're you're stoked and everything else.
And then once you settle in, that's that's when your body recessed itself and said, well, we've got to take a break here for a few minutes. And uh, you know that that's by the time he got that bandage on his ear, and uh, you know it, you know, Luke Skywalker be darned, you know he it's it's pretty pretty sad out there.
You got the whole nation on mainstream media that for the last five years, I'm longer, you know, since since he was elected in sixteen, uh basically saying to go after him, physically attack him, to to take him down whatever means possible. You know, whether it's Pelosi, you know, going out and you gather around all your politicians, all the Republicans, and show show them a threat. Essentially, Maxine Waters is doing that same thing.
And he's lived through all of this and he's stayed on top. He's been attacked in the courtroom, and you know for bogus charges. We don't even know what he was convicted for. There were thirty four charges that are aligned with one one piece of documents, you know, and they tried to make thirty four different charges against him. And it only holds through if the first charge that they put it to him was a felony. And they never even established what that first charge is. We have no idea. So we
know it's politics. It's politics. It's politics. You know, they appointed somebody illegally. That person just got taken out of the Florida stuff, and we know those dominoes are starting to fall in Trump's direction. So he had a lot of motivation going into this, going into the iron or the yeah, the RONC and that you know, all of a sudden he had a hurdle and I'm not going to call it a wall, it was a hurdle. They lobbed that bullet at him. And you know that that that scenario
there, I cannot believe. I mean that that's you know, it's pure incompetent. Okay, as someone who who started teaching his kids about hunting and fishing and and shot placement and you know, advantage taking shot, advantage for the deer, for whatever you're doing. You know that that place, I can't believe there wasn't an officer sitting on that roof there. You know. Yeah, those are questions we are going to definitely get into with our former
secret Service agents doctors. John Hubert, thank you so much for checking out. I'm sorry if I rambled this morning. It's just a whole lot of stuff going on, a whole lot of stuff going on. Man, I get it what I mean. I don't have you on so I can ask you a question. You go, No, I want you to. I want you to ramble, my friend, I want you. Thank you so much. Thank You're welcome and I will talk to you soon. There's no doubt about that. Leslie Corbi is coming up after news find out who she
is. Just stick around on seven hundred WLW. Hello and welcome back to that thing between the commercial stop sets called the show seven hundred WLW. Gary Jeff Walker in for Scott Sloan Today and our next guest is an author, a poet, and an attorney well two out of three eight bad. She's also likes to comment socially and politically and into theology. She has an interesting classical literature which will probably take her to bring up because I probably won't.
And she also plays a piano. She is the author of the book Silent Suffering Poems of Pain and Purpose, and is our guest now, Leslie Korby, Good morning, Corbi, Good morning. So you're there in the beautiful state of Utah. Yes, and so you're married. And now what struck me is the CrossFit, the hiking I can understand, especially if you're in Utah. The playing piano. What do you have any favorite selections? Leslie oh Man playing piano. So I guess I taught myself like how to read
music. You know as a kid, and then always wanted to learn more but got distracted doing things like going to law school. Favorite selections I really
enjoy, not, by by the way, just play intermediately. I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination, a skilled pianist, but I do really enjoy playing like I guess, Walt Chopin's walton a minor, some Beethoven, some easy Mozart and easy Chopin. By the way, showmaking really complicated well beyond my the k Tel The k TEL hit list of classical composers sounds good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really enjoy classical music for sure.
Occasionally I play some you know, like renditions of Broadway classics or something like that, but primarily classical. Cool. Well, all right, now that now that the meeting stuff's out of the way, let's talk about what we were going to talk about, not only your book, your book of poems. Now, what made you decide to have a collection of poems together? Too? Uh? To kind of push a certain thought that you had about why it was important to do that, What what made you made what
made you decide to do this? Sure, so I I've thought for some time that the creative world in general is too homogeneous, very left wing leaning, yeah and whack some. It lacks the diversity of thoughts, so to speak, becomes with different viewpoints, and I think that that's not good for culture. So I think libertarian and kind of minded folks such as myself are sort of intent I don't know, for whatever reasons, seem to have abandoned
the realm of culture. So I think the culture wars were won by the left largely because it seems as if people of a different persuasion self abandoned certain areas. So as far as it relates specifically with the poetry collection, I was inspired to write that collection both because I think that realm of culture has been abandoned to a very homogeneous crowd, and then also because I think that realm, partially due to that abandonment, has become a very void of analytic
griggor so we think of right brain and left brain. Right you either care about logic or you care about emotion, and so part of the purpose of the collection is to synthesize those two aspects of our humanity, because it's more much more more holistic than we give ourselves credit for, you know, or no one's really full emotion or full logic. Right, you end up being
this blend of both. And it's not, actually, my view, healthy to think of yourself as either fully detached or emotion or fully void of reason. Right. Either either extreme, I think is really dangerous in culture. And I wanted to have a perspective out there that valued both. And it showed how ideas of truth and enduring ideas of truth and goodness require that we
engage with both aspects of who we are. So you felt you felt a calling basically that it was you know, you have the abilities to do this and get involved inject that into the culture because it was sorely lacking. I think that's wonderful. Everybody needs a calling in their line. I'm still looking
for mine, but one thing is for one thing is for sure. President Trump has found his calling and and he is he is following that and those those you know, those better angel voices, you know, in a time when after everything that he has been put through, uh by by the leftist side, he is not just surviving but seems to be thriving right now. And it's wonderful for me to see because I'm a fan. I'm a fan
of the ideas. Not necessarily a fan of the man, but I'm a fan of the less government in your life, less regulation, less taxation, utilizing our natural resources instead of listening to these voices who are basically unscientific while claiming that they are science. And uh and now the assassination attempt, And you made a good point, and I'll let you expound upon it, Leslie,
is that the left has finally got off their high horse. They've been kicked off their high horse, and they don't have the moral high ground anymore, demeaning President Trump and his rhetoric or mean tweets after the assassination attempt of
last Saturday. Correct, Yes, yes, I think that there's I think that the messaging that Democrats and the leftist side of the aisle have been able to push for decades of being you know, sort of the people of compassion, the people who are empathy and tolerance and love is I think we're really
seeing an end of those days. And I think that this is actually, I mean, as historic as the assassination attempt was in relation to just the Roman politics, I think this is going to bleed over into broader cultural discussions as well, because it's becoming very difficult to maintain that point of messaging as the left of center voices have become more and more nakedly hypocritical in relation to
how they treat those that they perceive as others. Right, So this view there there's somehow beyond prejudice or beyond bias against identity groups or individuals who see things differently. I just don't know that that narrative can hold anymore. I don't see how that's palpable to the public calling the assassination attempt. All you have to do is and they of course always pointed to President Trump's rhetoric and
his language and the memes and the mean tweets. And at the same time you have a Maxine Waters talking about creating a crowd and wherever they are, they don't deserve to be left safe and public because they're evil right wing conservatives and they're here to destroy America and just take you, take away your rights and all those other things, and all those shrill voices for years, those hypocritical, shrill voices. They are a reflection of the lefts bent to point
the finger at their adversary when they are doing the exact same thing. That's one of the basic tenets of rules for radicals. Yes, and really good at it for decades upon decades, you know. That was another Frankly, another inspiration behind writing the poetry was sort of to call culture back to this idea of we critique the past, and we've done this for so long. We critique ideas of the past, traditions, religions, and it's not agree.
I'm grateful for that. You know, every culture, when you have a dominant ideology or a dominant belief system, whether or that's religious or not, comes at a cost. The problem is, for decades, we've really never counted the cost of what some of these more secular, progressive, postmodern you know, they're kind of difficult, sort of intentionally difficult to define,
but we don't really critique what they mean culturally. What happens when a culture embraces these set of values, right, And I think we're reaching a moment where that critique can occur because the notion that it's only ideas of the past, that great marginalization is coming to an end. There's too many voices cropping up from various areas of society that can kind of point to ways in which
dominant progressive dogmas are directly influencing culture in a negative manner. So I think I'm glad this is coming to an end, but I am also concerned because we have as a culture just we're so fractured, so relativistic. It's difficult to see any real shared values much between various individuals and groups, and that can cause a lot of friction and high polarization. And so when people are disaffected, you know, on either side you have just a higher degree of
conflict. Do you think do you believe that President Trump's call for last night and his insistence that their party is going to absolutely absolutely want to be inclusive of everyone, do you think it's going to take and do you think the Republicans are bought into that and can they make that a real thing for their platform and their party this time around? And President Trump, I certainly hope. So, you know, I think it's I think we're at a very
critical moment, and honestly a dangerous one. I think there's a lot of unknowns we've had. I mean, it's hard to believe that it was nine years ago at the Escalator ride was nine years ago or thereabouts, and there's been just so much conflict, especially I would say, in the psychological realm, right, think of how information moves today, how people are kind of constantly connected to their devices and constantly connected to frankly a lot of negativity that's
often freely vented online, and so I certainly hope that's the case. I think that if there is a party of inclusion, it's going to be very difficult to argue that at this point is not the Republican Party, particularly after the platform changes at the RNC this past weekend. So I certainly hope it's able to take and I hope that we're able to have at least one party
that that is more inclusive. But I think that it's also also indicative of what I what I've been writing about, which is that the notion that the Democratic Party and the leftist side of the Aisle can really message as if they are the inclusive, tolerant party. I just think those days are coming to an end. I'm sure that they'll continue to, you know, use those lines for some time, but as far as it being palpable or believable to the public, I don't think it's going to a right I mean, take
anymore people are. People are starting to see with their eyes and understand what their sayings is the way they've been bamboozled by a particular political party or maybe by both. Over all these years, Leslie and everything, everything's becoming more I want to say, transparent without an effort on either side. Everything is becoming much more transparent, and people are seeing the truth and the truth shall
set you free. Leslie CORBLI thank you so much. The book once Again is Silent Suffering Poems of pain and purpose, and it's out now right. Yes, it is available through all major book retailers on Amazon, and yeah, readily accessible. So I'd love for people to grab a copy. And if you're interested in the combination of philosophy, history and theology to critique the kind of more leftist side, it's certainly interesting. It sounds interesting to me.
Maybe next time we can is playing piano. I don't know that. Maybe you know, I'll do anything. I'm a pretty open person, all right, Leslie Corby, thank you so much for your time today. Ken Valentine, a former Secret Service agent up after the News at ten Gary jeffen Forsloani on seven hundred WLW customers often ask what's the right mattress for me? At the original mattress Factory. Our answer is always the same. It's all about personal preference. Do you want to be an American? I just learned
something during the news listening. Jonathan Carl of ABC News is not a journalist, no more of a journalist than I am. I am not a journalist. I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Scott Sloan. On this Friday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty four, the Republican National Convention concludes last night with President Trump, the nominee, taking the stage for the last ninety minutes of the party in Milwaukee. Fantastic speech. The fact that he was even standing there
giving the speech is a combination of God's grace. So that's first and foremost, and as far as the earthly realm, the Secret Service agents who were there to shield the president after the fact. The more we learn about what happened before the assassination attempt last Saturday in Pennsylvania, the more questions come up.
The more we know, the more we want to know. I figured it'd be a good idea to talk to somebody who has experience behind the behind the sunglasses with that thing in their ear, the dark suits, and the
protection of a president as their one job. And for that we have Ken Valentine, he protected three sitting US presidents as a secret Service agent, has written a book called Cheating Death, Three time presidential Secret Service Agent Lives to tell you how for that and much more in the ongoing investigation and the Secret Services obligation to answer questions, Ken Valentine, Good morning, Ken, how are you? Good morning, sir. I'm doing fine. I'm glad to
be with you. We're glad to have you. So this new book, let's get this out of the way that these are just I've not read it. These are stories of you on your job as a Secret Service agent protecting the president. Correct, yes, sir. The goal of the book was to give my kids a glimpse at what their dad did when he was traveling the world for twenty four years and protecting presidents. Really life advice about faith, about identity and decision making, protecting yourself, guarding your heart, about
leadership, and about hardship and friendship. But I combined, you know, the the dad advice with the stories that they'd never heard, because I just wasn't one of those guys who came home telling stories and frankly not not great when they put you on the spot to tell a story. But but I was able to, you know, be intentional about sitting down and writing some stories that that enhanced the truths that I was trying to impart to my kids,
especially with a from a from a Christian worldview that I have. That's that was what I was trying to do. At the timeliness is kind of weird, especially with the with the title cheating death. But but what I was trying to do there was you know, one thing is we That's a term that we used on the prison's detail while I was there to kind of, you know, chip at each other about the importance of our mission, but a good reminder of what's going to happen if we don't do our job.
That there are way too many people out there that want our leaders dead, and if we don't do our job, then death is going to have its way. And our job is to cheat death. And at the same time, I believe that through faith in Jesus Christ, that that's what happens when you die, is you cheat death because it doesn't get to hold you and keep you you get life eternal through him, So faith a major part of your life and your message in this Ken Valentine. And do you think
this has only strengthened whatever faith Donald Trump had? I think that's what I'm getting when I'm gleaning from the change in demeanor and just the change in the overall, overall outlook of the President as he got through this week at the convention and then last night in the speech. But the acknowledgment of the grace of Almighty God on a national stage is I think very telling about how how this has emboldened the faith of many people. Well, I agree, and
and I think you clearly saw the hand of God sparing him. I don't have any doubt about that. I think God's in charge, He's sovereign, and and he had his way. Obviously he extended the life of Donald Trump. And and uh if if if President Trump's not in a position to acknowledge that appreciate that, then I don't know who would be. I think, you know, he certainly did a great job last night of laying that out
of thanking the Secret Service for their response. But I also want to point out that Dana White read a text message from from the President talking about how you know what the President was thanking him for taking time out of his vacation
to come and and be with them. And I tell you that that text message, that transparency and that graciousness is exactly what a lot of the folks that that I know that have served on his detail, both him and First Lady Malaia Trump, have said about them that they are behind the scenes, they are completely gracious, they are humble, they are grateful for everything that's being done for them, and they go out of their way to to make
life easier for the people that whose you know, lives are on the line and whose lives are on hold with their families to be with his family. So he he's very genuine. I think you saw that last night, and and so I'm I'm thankful for that. For from your time as a Secret Service agent, mister Valentine, just without getting into personalities, but were the presidents that you served under, were there private personalities markedly different from their public
personas just in general in general? Uh, Unfortunately, it's a little bit of a mixed bag. I can I can tell you that the President Bush and I was with him for a long time, his his demeanor and his personality. When the camera was on and the camera was off, you you wouldn't know. I mean, there was no difference. What you saw is what you got. And he didn't care if the camera was on or if the camera was off. And and so I you know, I could.
I always appreciate that we loved him, and I think it was mutual, and so we you kind of appreciate that, but that there there is certainly a desire to you know, to to to perform for the camera. But I just didn't see a difference between him or with President Trump. Regardless of the situation. Genuine bleeds through and that's what you're seeing. Well, I mean, uh so, who are the three presidents you served under? President Bill Clinton, President George W. Bush and President Obama? Okay, all
right, the Obama's any any thoughts? Well, I will say this, they were very gracious to us. I you know, I enjoyed five years of my life serving on his detail, both his campaign detail, and then went in as a supervisor as he went in as president. We certainly weren't friends. He never asked my opinion on a single issue, which I would
have been glad to give him. But and the only shot he ever took it me was to say that I had big years, which you know, I'm looking at him looking at me, and that I can't believe that, of all people, you're going to take a shot in my ears those satellite dishes on the side of his head. Oh so uh so, Ken Valentine, Let's get to last Saturday, and with your experience what you saw as possible failures by Secret Service, what you saw that ask you questions of why
did this happen this way? And what was allowed to happen, and the infiltration of DEI when it comes to hiring and maintaining a career in a government office, and the dangers of it in any of that on the table for you. Sure you know the the overwhelming notion here is, and I've said this publicly already, is it's hard not to use the word failure when the person that you've been giving in the mission, the privilege and the responsibility of
protecting leaves the stage bleeding from a gunshot won't. So, so that's out there. I don't shy away from that. You've got to use the word failure. And when your agency is given that mission and that responsibility. You have to step up and own that, and that should have been owned before he even got to the hospital. That that this is secret service one oh one. It's our mission, it's our responsibility. You can delegate it to anyone and everyone you want, but at the end of the day, if
it doesn't go well, you you own that. And and that's that's hard for me to say, but it's in one sense, but it's it's the truth. So you know, we we own that. We're going to have to account for that. The investigation has to play out to show why prevention didn't work. And so I would break it down along those lines. We have a soup sandwich in the way of prevention going on there, and I don't know what broke down, and I don't know why, but unacceptable in
prevention of what happened. And then on the other hand, you have the reaction, which frankly should never happen. We trained for it, we prepare for it. That's where you know you have to do that. And what you saw was a textbook reaction, both from President Trump's detail, who jumped up on that stage while bullets were still in the air. They did not think about that they just reacted, which is what the training is supposed to
do. It's supposed to train out your thoughts and build that muscle memory to do what's got to be done. And I give them, I give them great credit. They could have been a little slower and I'd still be giving them props. But it was fast. I mean they got up on that stage and put him down, got him under cover on that stage, which is which is exactly what that's designed to do. And then they affected an evacuation and that those are the two missions that team. It's to cover and
evacuate the snipers on the roof Heroic. I'm pretty sure that's the first time one of our Secret Service counter sniper technicians has ever pulled the trigger on another human being in our history. So made a perfect shot under stress as shots were being fired. Why that shot wasn't taken sooner is part of the mess on our hands right now to understand. And I take nothing away from the snipers because they are some of the most incredible people I've ever had the pleasure
of working with. So I'm going to give them the benefit of uncertainty right now about why the shot wasn't taken sooner and assume, at least for me in my experience, that there was some reason why they didn't have the confidence to take that shot. And I just don't know what that was. Those guys, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Were you ever in a situation, in an outdoor situation or any time as you were engaged in protecting your protectee, the president. Were you ever in a situation where the Secret
Service limited the perimeter to one hundred and thirty yards? I mean, and that was the excuse that Kim Cheatle gave, is that the local police were handling the outer perimeter. We were just responsible. But yes, the buck stops here. The mixed messaging there doesn't work for me or a lot of other people. And many in Congress are asking the director to step down,
And I mean, do you think that that's warranted? And I'm just looking at the video again of this kid up on the roof of supposedly a staging area building that the police were using inside. And then the excuse of the slow roof and that's why there wasn't a sniper on that root by Cheetel. Anything to say about any of that, well, I don't know who's giving her advice right now, but I think she needs to to to let them
go because the messaging has been pretty dismal. You know, the mixed messaging is so off putting for for the agents, for our partners the Secret Service. You know, one of the one of the joys of being a Secret Service agent is and I and I went to seventy four countries all around the world, nearly avers state in the Union. And when we go into a town, whether it's Butler, pa Or Los Angeles, or you know, somewhere in Tennessee like where I am right now, and say, hey,
the President's coming. Uh, the first thing we do when we hit the ground is we go seek out federals or not federal, but state and local law enforcement partners to collaborate with. Because the Secret Service is so tiny that there's I mean, we know ahead of time, and I think this is a strength. We know ahead of time we can't do this mission on our own. So we go looking for partnerships and we enjoy the favor of tremendous
law enforcement partnership. And you know, there's other federal agencies that roll into town and say we're we're large, and we're in charge, and you guys, get out of the way, and we've got this. And the Secret Service has never done that. That that's not my experience. And so the you know, when when we build a security plan the architecture of an individual event, and they're all they're all unique, they all take a special look.
But you're, you know, the the perimeters are critical. The perimeter demarketates clean from unclean. And so inside the perimeter, everyone has been through a magnetometer to to you know, ensure that they have nothing of danger toward our protectee. The bomb sniffing dogs and you name it, they go through it. It's you've been through it. It's it's it's thorough. But maybe more even more important is the buffer. And so right outside that that is
the area the sure that was the area that was not secured sufficiently. Obviously in Pennsylvania, the book is Cheating Death. Three time presidential Secret Service agent lives to tell you how, and he's told us how. Ken Valentine, thank you so much. I'm sorry our time is done for today, but God bless you my pleasure. Thanks for having me. You got it. We continue on seven hundred WLW business Owners and Big Truck enthusiasts alike. Visit
Mike Casterrocy Ford in Milford. Don't want to be an American idiot and don't be one man. Jeez, don't need Billy Joe Armstrong to tell me. Gary Jeff Walker, another three named guy could be a could be an assassin. They all have three names in for Scott's loan on seven hunder WLW Friday morning, July nineteenth, twenty twenty and Dave had Or and I had kind of like President Trump. We had a segment all ready to go, and
then CrowdStrike happened overnight. You may have been cognizant of the news. You may be cognizant of what happened with this outage from something called CrowdStrike. You may have been infected. You may not have been able to take off from the airport. You may have had surgery delayed, You may have had Internet outages of your own, of any number of things, all due to somebody
messed up at one of the large Internet giants named CrowdStrike. To talk about that, we had to rip up the other speech and we've written a whole news speech for this segment with Dave Hatter and he's here now so Dave, what do you know, when did you know it? And how did this happen and what's going on now? I do not recall Gary jes No, thanks for having me on as always. Yeah, this has been a wild day. So I woke up this morning and immediately saw the news that there
was some kind of widespread Microsoft outage. Was kind of how it was originally reported, but this is not a Microsoft outage. CrowdStrike in the most simpler terms, makes antivirus software a little more complicated than that, But most people understand anti virus, think Norton or McAfee, you know, well known brand names. Kind of in the consumer space. This is sort of high end,
enterprise grade anti virus software. So if you have, you know, a low risk tolerance, a lot of cybersecurity compliance issues, or you're just a company that really understands how a product like this can help you, you know you're going to buy it. They have competitors like Sentinel One, but they're kind in the top tier of this, and they put out an update for their antivirus software last night, which apparently then caused Windows computers. They
make antivirus products for Mac and Linux too. It only impacts Windows computers, but when the computer reboots, it won't restart it. Basically, in nerds speak, bricks, you get the blue screen to death and you can't get out of that, which is where the real problem comes in because since the machine won't boot, a nerd like me can't remote into it to restart it, and that means someone has to physically go to each computer to address this
problem. So now imagine a company like Kroger or PNG or Delta tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of desktop machines and impossibly servers that won't start because it's been bricked by CrowdStrike, and you start to see the scope of this thing, and that's why you're seeing so many industries impacted. This is one of the most well known and well respected, at least until today antivirus packages
out there, and it's caused this. Yeah, until today. They're having a really bad day, as are most people in the business that use crowdifright. Thank god, we don't use it. So while it's been crazy for me today, I am not impacted by the outage. Well all of these all these airlines being down, I mean, that's the crazy thing. And
supposedly Children's Hospital. Uh, they were affected by this, and if you had surgery scheduled, they said, show up for your appointed time, but there's no guarantee you're going to get in because they are just way behind. Doesn't this again emphasize how we limit ourselves by signing up for all this stuff online that that we don't have, you know, backups, analog backups of all these systems. I mean, it shows how vulnerable, vulnerable, the
whole entire society is due to technology. Technology was supposed to make everything simpler, and yet I'm going to agree with the Gary Jeff, You're exactly right. The word I like to use is fragile. The whole incentive around all of this is wrong, and that's why we're in the mess we're in. Most of these companies are much more confirmed about speed to market and market share and revenue than they are about building software that is robust and resilient and secure.
I'll tell you SISS, a cybersecurity infrastructure security agency, has been pushing real hard for about a year something called secure by Design. I'm a big fan of this because the intent is to force software companies through public pressure. Right now, about one hundred companies have signed up to this, people like Microsoft, to force them to focus on building software that is robust and secure versus I just want to sellment to stuff and hope it all works out for
all of us who are now so dependent up on this stuff. To your point, and you know, here's my point, there is no indication at this point this is any kind of cyber attack. I want to come back to that. Though. It appears that this was just bad software. There was a bug in the software. Apparently it was not tested thoroughly enough or correctly in some way, and it rolled out and it has now caused this
giant outage. Think about this garage, Jeff. Let's say you had ten thousand computers in your organization, and let's say it took one minute per to fix this. Now it's going to take more than that because you've got to go to each one physically ten thousand minutes, ten thousand minutes of downtime. What is that going to cost you as an organization? So you've got downtime cost you got remediation costs, you got lost business costs. And again,
this is all from what appears to be simply a bug. Most of your listeners may recall the solar wind tack, which where where bad guys actually broke in the solar winds. The company that makes software other companies use kind of like this, and they planted a backdoor in it, which then rolled out to their customers. Imagine if this were like a Chinese cyber attack on Croudstrike and they put a bomb in there that couldn't be fixed and purposely destroy the
and brickham well. Better yet, imagine if they could break into Microsoft and instead of only CrowdStrike based computers down, every Windows in the computer in the world was down. So that's what I mean by fragile. You hit it. We've now were entirely dependent on software throughout our entire society, and now we've seen the instance. We've just got a little taste of what could come. And this just appears to be a mistake, not an actual malicious event.
We'll see over time how it plays out. But just still on that for a second. And that's why I like the word fragile. We are in a very fragile situation thanks to all of this technology. Are you good? A couple of other things that I wanted to cover with you while I've got you. The rest of the world claimer, the rest of the media world clamoring to talk to Dave Hatter because of the crowd strikeoutage like me.
But you're also the mayor of Fort Right, and you recently did something that you suggest all communities do now, and that is by switching you or city's domain, and give me the reasons why. Yeah. So, Actually it's a good segue because this involves it as well. At some point in the last few years, sizz it took over the top level domain dot gov.
Top level domain is fancy nerds speak for like dot com, dot net, dot org, the last part you see on the domain name and an email address or a website, And by taking that over, they've made it possible to force you to go through a process to use that dot gov domain. In the old days, you know, it was easy to dis register domain, set up fake email, set up fake website, and really there was
very little security around it. Now, if you want to use dot gov, you have to go through a formal process, still out a bunch of forms and basically prove who you are. So it creates some assurance and there's some additional controls in the background. Around that. It's kind of nerdy.
I won't get into that, but it's more than just that piece. But the idea here is if every government agency would switch to something that engine dot gov and then the public understood if you get an email address from Fort Right, or if you get an email from the city of Fort Right and it doesn't end the dot gov, it can't be legitimate. There's no question about it. It can't be legitimate. And because hackers can't register these domains on
their own, it helps raise the security posture of your organization. Again, it requires some education because our old dot com addresses still work for the time being, but ideally, over time we'll wean ourselves off of that entirely. And then again any kind of dealings with the city of Fort Right and hopefully every government which is want glad you let me talk about this. I would like to see your listeners go out and pressure their local governments to make the
switch. The DOCTV domain is free, costs you nothing to get it. Now, you might have some labor costs to make the switches in your system to facilitate this. It took it was very easy for us to do this. So again I'm trying to get the word out why this is a good thing and why every local government should do this, because you know, again, as we seen to date, we're so dependent on this stuff now and any steps you can take to make yourself more secure and protect your residence is
a good thing. Also, Dave Patter, I see the story where Google was forced to destroy five billion dollars worth of user data that they illegally collected in something called incognito mode. A quick explanation of that would be that would be good. Yeah, this is very frustrating for me. If you use the Google Chrome browser, it has this incognito mode, as do other browsers, and the theory is that when you're in incognito mode, they're not collecting
data about you. That's how they sell it, and then it gives you some additional privacy assurances. So what we found from this court case, where as you mentioned, they are required to bleat a bunch of stuff. People can go see the particulars on it is interesting is that basically, yes, they're not storing data on your local computer, but it doesn't stop them from storing whatever being sent to their servers. And it kind of fits into what
I would describe as privacy washing. They say one thing and give you this idea that somehow they're protecting your privacy when a natuality, they really aren't. And that's often a common theme for these large technology companies that operate off the surveillance capitalism model, which is wh when you look at a company like Google or Meta, they're not really selling you any kind of product. You are their product. It's your data, right, they are monetizing your data.
So again, as you know, I'm not a fan of things from Google, I always encourage people to try to find more privacy friendly options. Gmail is just as bad. But if you're using Chrome and you think that when you're in incognito mode you're protecting your privacy by not sharing data with Google, that court case shows that's clearing out the case. So yeah, that's what that's all about. And I would recommend people switched to a privacy friendly browser
like Firefox or Brave. It'll work just as well and you will have a lot less concerns like that. And you certainly don't want to buy any kind of Chinese ev anytime soon, right, Well, I know, I sure, don't you know, Garrett Yeat, all modern cars. I encourage all your listeners go to Mozilla. They make the Firefox web brouss. So they have a website called Privacy Not Included where they take a look at products and evaluate their privacy and help you, as a consumer make decisions about what you
might or might not want to use. They recently did a big expose on modern cars, and I think most people will be absolutely they'll have their minds flown when they see what's your average car, including American cars are collecting. Now when you throw in that, you're buying a car coming from China, our largest adversary in the world, an adversary that our own government is constantly
warning about from a cybersecurity perspective and critical infrastructure perspective. You're going to buy a car that's got cameras and microphones in it and you're going to drive around. I mean it's a surveillance device. First off, there's a well documented
evidence where the Russians used web cameras and you to find targets. Imagine millions of cars driving around, capturing data not only about you as the driver, not only about your passengers and occupants, but also about every building everywhere you go in the car and sending all that back to China. Now, how
could that possibly be good? And then, of course there's the possibility, look at this crowd strike thing today, there's the possibility that there could be some kind of backdoor in that software that would let them take control of the car while you're driving and drive you into the local water plant or drive you into the local power station. I know this probably sounds far fetched to people,
but this is where we're at with this stuff. Going back to my earlier comment about the fragility of our society thanks to all of this wonderful technology, Well, every time I talk to you, I'm more and more reassured that our destruction is guaranteed. I appreciate that. Sadly, sadly it's coming,
all right, The end is denied. Dave Hatter, thank you very much for a little tech talk on a Friday and some explanation of what happened with the crowd strike outage overnight that you know that actually grounded planes and grounded plans and hurt hurt people's ability to communicate with each other. Bob Harward is another former Secret Service agent. We've got him on After News, plus a guy who says they're trying to take away your right to drive at all.
It's time to fight, Fight, Fight, Gary Jeffin for Sloany on seven hundred WLW. Is your propane supplier working hard to provide the best value for your family? Box your guess works hard twenty four to seven three sixty five to keep your family safe? And Ah, do you know what the gouge
is? Prepare yourself. You're about to find out. We have three Star Admiral Bob Harward, a legendary Navy seal, former National Security Councilman member, and author of the new book The Gouge, How to Be Smarter Than the Situation You're In? And he joins us right now. Admiral Harward, how are you this morning, Ray John? Thanks for having me, and it's a beautiful day here in Milwaukee. Ah. Did you enjoy the RNC Oh, my god, it was unbelievable, the excitement, the buzz, the
people. Yes, I did enjoy it. It was a lot of fun. Well, you talk about the Gouge, the title of your book, How to Be Smarter Than the Situation You're in? Do you think this is a book that could be recommended reading for a Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle. I think it's recommended reading for anyone because here's what it's about, and the book traces the history of the term, what it means, and why it's so relevant to any team, any organization. And yes, I think it's
important reading. And if you would ask military guys, specifically the Navy, they would tell you, well, it's the inside information what you really need to know. And that's a true statement. But it's so much more than that. It's how do you build that community and the people and share that experience based knowledge with your team, not only to accomplish the mission they had a mission to do that day, but also how do you take care of
your people professionally and personally personally. So it's that culture and that system that works that and so yes, for that situation or any of those, I think it helps each of the individuals and the team accomplish the mission in the ways it should be done. Do you think it was not the case that day? After watching and listening to President Trump last night with his keynote speech, his acceptance speech, do you feel like President Trump knows the gouge?
I sure, hope. So I think he's picking a team. I think jd Vance the rest of the team is smart. Their knowledge they have experienced. And that's the number one concern I've always had in government and defense. Do you really have the based, best experienced based knowledge to make those right decisions? And so I think President Grump got a lot of that from his
first term. I think he's learning a lot of it now and I think this incident, this attempted assassination, puts them in a much different place. I was cecil for forty years. I had a lot of guys shot guys shot at and when that happened, it sure impacts you. You think differently and impacts you. And I think we saw some of that on the stage last night with President Trump. I think he's a different man for that experience. Well, he's a different man for the experience of the first term.
As you mentioned, and that was one of my and other people's criticisms of President Trump's first term is that he did not always have the right people to achieve the mission. Would you agree with that? Well, I think they were caught a little off foot in that they didn't haven't done with their typical politicians. If you look, I served on the Bush administration, and a lot of that team were teams who had worked on the previous Bush administration.
If you look at the Biden team, it is the team from the Obama leginistrations in a lot of different seats. So I think in that first his first administration, they weren't for pay for that and they had to put their own team together on somewhat short notice. I think they're now in a position now much more confident, and they're starting to look at that team, look
at what who are the best experienced people to put in those positions. So I think it's going to be a much much more experienced, a much stronger team, and they know the issues thereafter that they want to address and who will be the best people to get after that. So yes, I think it's a much a different position they're in today. We're talking to Admiral Bob Harward, who's the author of the gouge how to be smarter than the situation
you're in? Boy, I tell you what the more that comes out about last Saturday in Pennsylvania in the assassination attempt to Admiral Harward, I'm not sure that they were smarter than the situation They were in at least some elements of that, and hopefully a lot was learned from those obvious, now in hindsight mistakes. You were asked to be President Trump's National security advisor? You declined? Are you glad you declined? After you see what they did to General
Flynn? Well, I was just in a different place. The timing was not right for me. And again I know Mike I served with them. He found himself in a position he did not have the experience before. He had not been in the political world, he had not had that experience or knowledge, and he didn't have a team who had that experience to best advise it. So very tragic for Mike, very unfortunate. And again, going into those positions, you need to know you're going into a different environment.
He had been a very successful military officer, and so he was changing into a whole different culture and ecosystem that I don't think he had the experience for, and unfortun we had that tragic incident. Well, I hope that everybody listening will give this, give this a run through. Here it's the gouge g o u ge apostrophe. No, I mean, not a exclamation point. How to be smarter than the situation you're in. And the author is a three star Admiral Bob Harward. Thank you, sir, great success with
the book, and thanks for spending some time with us this morning. All right, thank you much, friend, I really enjoyed it. You got it. Jay Bieber up next about your right to drive ah vacation time. You know, it doesn't matter where you go. You can always listen to seven hundred w l W on our live stream. So whether you're taking the family for a week of kayaking, or you're cruising Transatlantic with Kate Winslet, but if so, tell her to scooch Obrad. There's plenty of boom for
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of our cars. If that's not apparent to anybody who's been paying any attention at all over the last few years with the push to ev vehicles, which are not convenient, They're not they're not anything that looks like a good choice for most people as far as freedom of movement and travel, autonomous cars, self driving cars, all of that. What bad could come from that? What could possibly go wrong? To talk about that and more, Jay Bieber
our guests for the next few minutes from the National Motorists Association. It's time to fight back. They say, from automated enforcement to automated vehicles, how driving freedoms are under thread, and what you can do about it. Jay Bieber, good morning, how are you. Good morning, Pleasure to be with you. Now, I've said this for a long time that the push, especially this mandated evy vehicles by twenty thirty or whatever, they know it's
not practical. They know it's not cost efficient for most people. They know that driving an electric vehicle is ultimately going to cost so much more, and not just necessarily in the charging. But what it is is a move to get us all in some kind of mass transit and take away our own individual
freedom of movement. Do you see it that way? Oh? Absolutely, that's exactly what we're seeing going on out there, which is whether it's electric vehicle mandate or any of these other things like automated enforcement or this thing they called road diet, which is basically taking away car lanes perfectly good car lanes. All of these things are a part and parcel of a movement to get you out of your personal vehicle. They don't want you driving your car.
You have too much freedom if you do that. In their minds, you are destroying the planet if you drive to the grocery store. So their push is for you to be on a bus or a bicycle and not to drive your personal automobile. And all of these policies, although they sound like they're for other things, it's really all part and parcel of a movement for you to reduce your automobile usage. And that's what this is about. Even the Green New Deal push to get us away from combustion engines, it's all part
of the same package. It's all part of the same thing. It's all part of this idea that human beings not have any impact on the planet, that that human beings are bad, human activity is bad. And so you you know, you must conform to their idea to minimize that. And you know in their idea is you know, the biggest boogeyman for them right now is the use of your personal automobile. Yeah, I mean, And the thing is, we almost have a de facto surveillance state now. Almost anywhere
you go you could be captured. Your movement could be captured and logged pretty much and tracked. But they want to take away any freedom at all of movement. I'll tell you during COVID and the stupid lockdowns, Jay, my wife and I had something that we called asphalt therapy. We would just we would just get in our car with no particular destination, just to get out of the house and drive. And some things were open, some things were
closed, but we weren't really going anywhere. We were just getting out to enjoy that freedom of being out of the house and going where we wanted to go where, you know, when we wanted to go. And if what we're saying is true, and I believe it is, and the push is on to get us out of our personal vehicles and so they can control all of our movement to wherever we go when we go there, then I mean, that is what they're trying to take. That's the freedom they're trying to
take away and it's just it's frightening as hell to me. Yes, it's
very concerning. Just think about what your life would be like, and we had a taste of that during COVID, But just think about what your life would be like if you could not get in your vehicle and go where you wanted to go when you wanted to go to, I don't know, go to the grocery store, go to take your kids a soccer practice, go to your house of worship that you wanted to you that every time you wanted to go and do something, and just make a choice in your life to
say other than you know, being in you on your property, which they also want to limit. But if you did not have the choice and the ability to go and do that freely and easily as you do now, your life would be radically different. You are freedoms would be radically different. And so a lot of people say, oh, you know, the car is a symbol of freedom and prosperity. It's not just the symbol of that,
it is the driver of that. It is one of the greatest inventions that has brought about personal freedom and prosperity that we've ever had invented, and I
don't think that's overstating what comes from having a personal autobile. If you think about the poorest members of society, what lack they lack transportation, they lack having a car, and everybody who is poorer in our society than the richer people aspire to one day having enough money to get a car so they can be freed up in terms of their personal choices, have better access to jobs, have have better access to education, just have better access to everything that
everybody else has because they don't have a personal vehicle to get around. So you want to get somebody out of poverty, get them a car well as an American citizen according to the Constitution, from from what I understand, we have a god given right to travel freely. And you know another thing they're trying to and you know you can look at it from from those terms as
well. This is this is about yeah, absolutely, when I mean, I'll tell a story when I when I was after I graduated college, I went to visit the Soviet Union when it was still the Soviet Union, and one of the things that I was shocked about was that you had to get permission from the government to go places in the country. Most people obviously were poor because of the socialist system there, and so not everybody had a car. But even if you had a car, you had to get permission to
travel. That was shocking to me as an American, which I was used to. My dad was a school teacher. We had an RV, we had a motor home. We would travel the country in the summer when we were all off from school, and it was shocking to me that the government could restrict your ability to get around in the way that they were doing in the Soviet Union. And now we're seeing a lot of the same sorts of things, not in the same way, but the same kind of amount of
restriction is happening because they they want you out of your car. So although you know the means is different, but it's a very similar effect. It's always the curving of your right as slowly bit by bit, the slippery slope. As we say, the NMA, how do people contact you? We're running short on time, Okay. National Motors Association, Google National Motors Association. Our website is motorists dot org. Join us join the fight to Protect
your freedoms. Where the only organization that is working in this space. If you like driving faster than fifty five miles an hour on a major highway, you can thank the National Motors Association because we got rid of the fifty five fifty five mile per hour national speed limit in the nineties and we've been working on these things ever since. So you know your freedom's protected. Come join us. Keep up the good work. Jay Bieber from the National Motorists Association,
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