Face of the earth. Not that bombastically, but it's a holiday. June nineteenth is a holiday or Juneteenth for people who don't know how to count. Gary Jeff Walker in for Bill Cunningham on this Monday afternoon on SEVENLW. It's great to be with you today. We've got a fantastic show. Chris Smitherman, the Smithers makes an appearance this half hour lot to talk about in the city of Cincinnati. From a man who's kind of on the sidelines now not
on the front lines, a guy who's been behind the lines. Will be our first guest, and that introduction coming in moment. Also former FBI well Beat Cup who became an FBI whistleblower and nearly paid for it with his life, certainly his way of life, certainly his ability to make a living.
Stephen Friend will be with us at one oh five. You may have seen him testify before the House Subcommittee on the abuses, the obvious abuses by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the politicization of that agency that continues to this very day. And we may know why have you heard the tapes? Very few people have, but my first guest has have you heard the tapes of Joe Biden, apparently on the telephone with an Ohlergark from Ukraine. Maybe someone tied
into Bisma who was worried about FBI whistleblowers. More on that in just a moment, a stooge report. I do not know if Saga is here or not, and if he is not, we will still do the stooge because ten Star needs he needs their accommodation. They paid for it even on holidays. I guess we have a guest stooge, and I think you'll find this very very stooge. Like Andy Furman will be joining a cellphone from the he recently had a hip replacement. I have a stooge replacement. I hope I
fare as well in my recovery as he has in his. My friend Karen Cataline, the hostess spouting off and a longtime friend of mine. If you've listened to the Nightcaps, you're familiar with Karen. She'll be with us later
on this afternoon and during Pride month. It's only fair to have Lady Maga on Ryan Wood, who is fighting tooth and nail as a person who is acknowledged gay, who was a performer a female impersonator performer, and who is vehemently against the grooming of children and the indoctrination that is going on by the political pedophiles that are in control of some spaces and education and in our government. Lady Ryan, Lady Maga will be here before this Cunningham Show is over.
Bill is off, Gary Jeff is in. Let's get started. My first guest, as I mentioned, Peter Bronson, how are you doing, my friend. It's good to be here in person and see you in your wonderful tuxedo. You really look exactly and I am so relieved to find out I am not the designated stooge today. No, no, no, no, that's that's for a ball. That's thank you for that. So I'm gonna bring this up and do it. I'm gonna bring this up with Smitherman
h later on this this half this hour, Pete. But I just saw this morning that Cincinnati, in their benevolence with other people's money, have decided to launch a pilot guaranteed minimum income program for a select number of its citizens. That's there's the keyword. Select two point one million dollars out of the city's budget. I mean, I'm I'm glad they could find two point one
million dollars that they just obviously do not need. Wow. And Councilman Reggie Harris, when I ask about it, apparently this was his baby, said we're not giving away free money. What he should have said after that was, we're just giving away free money to people who didn't do anything to deserve it. Out of other people's pockets. Yeah, because that's where the city's money comes from. It comes from anybody who lives or spends money in the
City of Cincinnati, and that's where the budget comes from. A lot of people don't seem to understand that. So it's only two point one million dollars. We're not talking about billions like this sure to fail reparations program in California. And is it just another name for reparations, because we don't know who those one hundred select individuals will be that will be receiving these monthly stipends or payments. But the councilman's argument for it, he said, this is an
investment. And as soon as I was telling Peter or Bronsman Bronson about this, you said, beware, beware when somebody when somebody on the left says we're making an investment with your money. Hold on your wallet, lock your house, no doubt, put it in a safe, hide it under the bed, whatever you can do. Because their investments are like com let's see street cars and bullet trains and programs that fail and things that turn into white
elephants that just suck cash for generations. And they and the shot spotters that tell you that, oh, somebody's just shot a gun and the police respond five ten minutes later, the person who fired the gun is nowhere around. But they did spend, you know, in an inordinate amount of money to put these shot spotters up all over the city. And you know that ratchet only goes in one direction because you can never pry or claw these things back
once they've been put into place. It because and entitlement, it becomes something permanently ensconced in your city government. This is just appalling. Who gets to select the one hundred? I'd love to see how that's done exactly, And how do they get so lucky? Will any of them be related? Will any of them be related to Councilman Harris, people in city government? Yeah, all this does obviously We've talked about this when these things are introduced in
other places. You know, there are sadly some people in this city who think that what's going on in these other Democrat controlled cities that are turning into giant rubble and feces pits all over the nation, yeah, full of crime Chicago. They think that their their plan, their programs are a good idea for Cincinnati because it'll make us be forward looking. It'll make us feel better about ourselves, like we're on the path signaling true to true equity and social
justice, to utopia, which of course means nowhere. I've been through utopia before in Claremont County, Yes, me too. And there is absolutely there. There's nothing there where a lot of people die, I guess, And I guess that's their aspirations for Cincinnati to become nowhere, from the great vibrant city. It is to becoming utopia or Dystopia or nowhere. You know, back in the late nineties and early two thousands, I thought city Council could
not get any lunear. That was just before the riots, and we had people coming in to spout all kinds of idiocy and hate speech in the council meetings, and they would stand up and they'd give them this platform. It looked like something like The Springer Show, only ten times worse. Well, the city council elections are are in all years, They're not in the same in a general election year. And here's why we get this group of mindless,
functional idiots in city government. How do you really feel about it? Fifteen percent of the pope population votes fifteen and nineteen percent of the population votes for these city council seats. The nine biggest vote getters get on council, which means that somebody like Reggie Harris. I'm just pointing him out because he was the spokesperson for this pilot program of a minimum guaranteed income in Cincinnati.
So probably four or five percent of the entire population that's registered to vote voted for Reggie Harris. And this is what we get, and don't forget. A huge part of the population that pays a huge part of the taxes that support the city has no vote. Those are the people who work downtown and pay the employment tax downtown. Yes, as you work here, Well, we're seeing few and fear of those lately, aren't we People that have found out they can work from home. Gosh, I'm not going to come down
town to pay that dank tax. And one of one of the greatest things about moving from Mount Adams to Kinwood for me, a resident of northern Kentucky, was that I no longer had to pay Cincinnati income tax out of my check. Yes, now I had to drive a little bit more, and with the gas prices the way they are these days, thank you, Joe Biden energy policy. I am paying, you know, it's kind of offset.
Yeah, but just the fact that it's not being extracted coerced without a vote, without a vote for me, certainly, you had no vote about who's spending your taxes or what they're doing with them. It was purely truly
taxation without representation. If I was one of those people you mentioned who works downtown Cincinnati and is obligated to pay that income tax, If I am someone whom you know buys anything in the city paying a retail sales tax or whatever any of the other number of fees and taxes that local government collects, PETE,
I would be enraged by all this. Oh it's crazy. I mean, just taking money out of people's pockets to randomly give out to people who have done nothing to earn it. This is like, um, I don't even think most a respectable socialists would say that's a great idea. I mean, don't they usually couch their arguments. Yeah, I was telling you about
the wonderful outcome. You know that they can promise the wonderful, the wonderful meme I saw where the guys holding a giant fork mettle fork right up against the light socket, and his buddy is there with it, says that didn't look like a good idea. You could get hurt. He said, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna do it right this turn stick the damn fork in the light socket. Yeah. And who's going to get
the shock? Exactly everybody in the periphery. He's going to get to show all those people down the line who are paying the taxes, anything going on in your world you want to highlight or talk them? Oh, I got you here. Well, just working on having a lot of fun going out and talking about books and really meeting some interesting people. You know. One of the joys of writing books is when you go out and speak about them,
you meet all these people. Because I write local history, Yeah, you meet all these people who have experienced it, who were, for example, there at the supper club, or people who were in law enforcement or knew some of the backstory or some things that I'd never known. I'm always kind of saying, well, gosh, I wish I'd met you or heard off you, or heard this story before I wrote the book. But it does just it's a lot of fun. Another thing that you've been involved with
for years, Peter Bronson is try State honor flight. Can you give any updates on honor flights? Well, I'm not as much involved with them anymore. I know Cheryl Pop and Tom Pop are doing a great job with it, and they had honor flights this year, and then I think they're going
to be ramping up again in the fall when it cools down. They usually take a break during the summer when it's really hot so that they can make it easy on the veterans, and there's a lot of walking involved, and it can be pretty It's a long and strenuous day for a lot of people. I mean, you leave in the morning, you come back at night, like five am, and you come back and sometimes you don't get to
the airport by ten or eleven, so that is a long day. But but it's it's wonderful and you've seen this firsthand obviously, when not only for the veterans to see their memorials in our nation's capital, but to come back and to be welcomed by the hundreds and sometimes more that are gathered at the airport to welcome them. Absolutely, there's nothing like it. It just gives
you chills. If you have If you ever want a really positive, uplifting, inspiring experience, go to the airport to greet the returning flight and watch those veterans as they come marching down that gateway with the music playing and the hundreds of people screaming and waving signs Grandpa, we love you, and ah. It's just so fantastic. It is a really great moment to be an
American to be there. You don't find out more about Peter Bronson, his books and some of the affiliated authors that he has involved with, go to Chili Dog Press Chili Dog press dot com correct and copies of my books are there. The following the history of the mob in Northern Kentucky and Cincinnati. Right Forbidden Fruit was the first, and the Beverly Hill Supper Club Blaze, and then the second one is not in our town, right, the Queen
City versus the King of smut talking about Larry Flint. Yes, Larry Flint was the face of the mob in Cincinnati, which was a bit of a surprise to me because nowhere, if you go back and research the media, I thought he was the face of free speech. Oh yeah, that's what you get. That's what you get it from the conventional story. But if you go back and dig it, dig around a little bit, now that
we could go back years later. So you're saying that these tapes that you just heard courtesy of Dan Bongino, Yes, who left Fox News Channel to go off on his own own. Yes, so he wouldn't feel as restricted by corporate kind of time. Somebody in from among his secret service or FBI friends has leaked him some tapes. Apparently. I don't know how he got him. There hasn't been enough reporting around this, but he did play two tapes and they are pretty amazing and appalling. Well, I mean, I
mean, Dave has him. Let me Dave, if you can just real quickly before we go into break and Pete has to get out of here a plate, play cut number one and I'll save cut number two. For Steven Friend at one oh five, the FBI whistleblower go ahead. I don't want to get into position where he thinks he's about to buy handle a policy where the financial system is going to collapse and he's going to be looked to to pour more money into your crea. That's how he'll think about it before he
gets sophisticated enough to know the detail. Okay. That is Joe Biden, right, Joe Biden speaking to a Ukrainian official who was involved in this alleged bribery scheme in which the Biden crime family was paid more than ten million dollars by Parisma. Initially it was five. Yeah, now we're staying closer to
ten. And the official himself and this whistleblower have said this money was laundered through all these shell corporations, and it's beginning to look like the House committee that's investigating this may have bank records to indicate that they can prove it. I mean, what he's saying here really is he doesn't want Trump to get involved in any way with Ukraine because he might find out what was really going on and notice what they went after Trump for in that second impeachment it was
for having contact with Ukraine. Yes, absolutely, And I wonder what classified documents Trump may have at Marlago that they wanted to get their hands on. So that's a great question. Yeah, did that relate to the bidens in Ukraine and the bribery? And the sad thing is we may never know. And why were the Democrats so terrified and overreacting to his mainly innocent phone call
with Ukraine? Really what was that all about? Well, it looks like this will be That's why the headline on this was about Harvey Weinstein, right, because everybody knew about Harvey Weinstein, nobody did anything about it until finally people started to talk. So what they're saying about Biden is that everybody knew what he was doing, including Obama, including all the Democrats, and nobody
to doing it right under their nose. So when Trump says he starts making deals or he's going to talk and find out who the whistleblowers are in Ukraine, they come on glued. Peter Bronson, thank you for being the glue that held his first half hour together up. My pleasure, Gary, Jeff, always a pleasure to be with you, coming up afternows or what's passing for news At twelve thirty, my friend Chris Smitherman will join us. No,
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at three seven hundred WLW. You want to get cash out of your home's equity lone prompto can do it now? Yeah, the right Reverend Al GREENLW. You know I said that exact thing to Chris Smithman. You want to be with me. I'm filling in for W for Willie on Monday, and he said, man, any time for you, brother, cool guy.
You know, usually when I have a chance, or have had the chance in the pass to talk to Chris Smithman on the air, he's either been running for something or he's been an elected political official, so kind of neat to get his view on the sidelines sort of. And it's been way, way too long. So I'm glad you agreed to be with me today, mister Smithman, how are you, brother? I'm doing so good and U I'm so honored that you asked me. No, you got a lot to
say, you got You've got a lot of wisdom, Billy. I appreciate you. You know, I want to start by just sending happy June Teams to you and you're listening, audience, and I want to acknowledge those hourly workers out there, you know who who are you know we have a federal holiday, you know, we still have to get our trash picked up to people are still working out the airlines, keeping things moving, whether they're working at a grocery store or hotels. There are a lot of people out there
that are working, and I thank them for keeping our country going. But when I think about this holiday today, you know a lot of people, you know, don't know about June Team, and they don't have an understanding of why it's important and why it's important to all Americans. And so as I reflect on it, my mother and father are from the South, brother, and they they have celebrated June tent since I was a kid, so
this isn't new to me. My parents went to Tuskegee and met there, and they're both from My father was from Birmingham, Alabama, my mother was from Montgomery, Alabama. But to think about, you know, Abraham Lincoln and in eighteen sixty five, where you have soldiers that are coming in and this all in at the say, Ground zero was Galveston Bay, Texas, where two thousand Union troops came and said, hey, the Army has announced
that the two hundred and fifty thousand enslaves black people are free. That's a big deal. And it's not in conflict with the July fourth holiday. And sometimes people are confused by that, and they say, listen, we can celebrate our great country and celebrate our independence, and we also can all celebrate Juneteenth, the ending of this black eye in our country of an enslaved people that were then freed by Abraham Lincoln. So this was unanimously passed by the
Senate. That means Republicans and Democrats said yes to this. Oh yeah, Tuday holiday being June nineteenth being declared a federal holiday. That's correct. Bipartisan voting yes, bi partisan voting, and so what's exciting about it is Republicans and Democrats and the few independents like myself who are elected federally all said yes to this. So I you know, I'm hoping that people over time will embrace it and not view it as something that is divisive or something that separates
us, but something that really brings people together. Right. Well, slavery was ending by drips and drops, I've least obviously starting with Abraham Lincoln signing the Emancipation Proclamation January first, eighteen sixty three, which, of course we were a nation split so it wasn't enacted upon, and no one was actually
freed from their slavery, but it was the beginning step. Of course, the blood of more than a half million Americans had a lot to do with the end of slavery spilt in that terrible war, but you know, many felt like a necessary step the nation had to take to eradicate the black eye.
June nineteenth would never have happened in the days of the Internet because they would have found out at the end of the war when Lee surrendered to Grant and Appomatics that the war was over and slavery was essentially over, and it wasn't actually until November of eighteen sixty five before the all the slaves were freed
by the government. Not like that they should have been enslaved by any government in the first place, Chris, But I understand the significance the way you explained it, probably better than anyone has ever explained it to me before. So I appreciate that. Yeah. And it's and it's our love, meaning my love for our friendship, and you being my brother, and you're listening, audience, you know, we're all Americans. Well, this country is
the greatest country in the world. That's why so many people are trying to get in our borders illegally and legally. And you know, I certainly don't support people entering our country illegally. But the reality of it is, we still are the greatest country in the world. And that is what unifies us as Americans, that we can book and face our imperfect country and still embrace
it at the same time. You know, I think about the Tuskegee Ailment who flew these missions some of the that time, that period of the greatest greatest generation of all and they flew these missions knowing that they would come home and go in the back door to a restaurant, but they understood a greater vision that this was still the greatest country in the world. And I've been listening to Senator Tim Scott talk about this as he runs for president, that
we have to embrace these imperfections that have happened in the past. I'm glad this is the greatest country in the entire world. I'm glad you brought up Senator and candidate Scott because I was going to ask you about this ahead of time. Chris, he was on of the View, which is not something I ever watch, and he had been attacked and that's why he went on the show for in in essence. They were calling him an uncle Tom and he you know, he wasn't a real black man, you know, he
was an exception to the rule, and he took exception with that. And I'm glad he did. Do you feel like you said, and you just mentioned it over and over at least three times in your opening salvo, that this is the greatest This is still the greatest country in the world. What about all the people, many of them happen to be black activist who say this is a hateful, systemically racist country, and that if any black person or person of color succeeds in this society, well, it's just the luck
of the dice. You know. They're they're an exception, They're they're not the rule, and all of that other I think it's garbage because I think it's an insult to anyone who does succeed in this country, regardless of the pigmentation of their skin, uh, if they do exceptional things. And I think it's I think it's an insult to say, well, you're black in this country, you can't you're brown in this country, you can't really achieve
anything without a lot of help from other people. And because it's systemically it's still systemically racist that Mantra has pushed over and over and over again, and I think it's very damaging and it's dividing the country. Chris, your thoughts.
I think what Senator Tim Scott said very well on the view is that he remembers and note at the time that African Americans were walking down the sidewalk and had to get off the sidewalk as they passed white Americans, and that no longer exist, and so people are typically discussing these things in the rear view mirror. And what I thought Senator Tim Scott did a beautiful job saying all those things are true that you know, racism and sexism and all those
things you can say are still true. But the reality of it is, we're still operating in the greatest country in the world. And that wouldn't happen if we weren't the greatest country in the world. That we would elect the first African American president, by President Barack Obama, to be the President of the United States of America. We wouldn't have sheriffs, we wouldn't have me,
who was the vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati. We wouldn't have all the African American police chiefs across the United States, fire chiefs, senators, congressional members, etc. Teachers, lawyers, doctors, successful businessmen and entrepreneurs, And what he was saying, what he's saying here is that we cannot bathe in that victimization and be successful. One of the things I was talking to my mother about recently, and she talked about how families were strong
fifty sixty years ago when she was coming up. You know, our biggest issue as Americans, whether you're right or Black, or your Latino or Asian, is that our nuclear families are broken up here in a way that we can't even imagine. And we're tied to technology like cell phones even at the dinner table, distracted, or we're tired, tied away from our families on these stones, sending text messages when you're downstairs and upstairs to your family,
that these are the things that are impacting us in a greater way. And I think President Biden had it wrong when he spoke at the historically black college
and university. Howard University, by the way, is where my father got his PhD in organic chemistry and was the first African American hired Biprocker and Gamble in the United States of America. With his PhD, we called him the Jackie Robinson, the Procker and Gamble where he got his PhD. President Biden was wrong when he said the number one issue facing that class was systemic racism
and and he's missing the point. And what he should have had the courage to say is that we have to focus as the people as African American and stabilizing our nuclear families by demanding more from our pook education institutions by making sure that we are not having children early in life. All of these things are setbacks in our community, and that we should be striving always for excellence. I am not a victim, and I think Senator Tim Scott was saying that.
And I think the term Uncle Tom is so horrific. When you have someone who's talking empowerment of how do you economically move yourself forward, and someone says that person is no longer African American or is outside of the African American community, they are wrong when they say that. And I think that's what's
so exceptional about the message that Senator Tim Scott has for this country. Well, I think that the other messages that are being preached from the other side of that discussion, Chris, are the most damaging and hurtful and hateful statements anybody can make. That you're a victim simply because of the color of your
skin and this country still to this day, are you kidding me? I mean, And and people go, well, Gary, Jeff, you wouldn't know you you've lived as a white person in this country all your life. Well, yes i have, but I've also I mean, god, it's it's ubiquitous. I interact with all kinds of people who look differently than I do all the time, and we have no issues. We have no issues. It's it's down to the individual. And when we get into all this
group think or collectivism, that's totally anathetical to the American ideal. It's it's the Constitution, the Bill of Rights are written for individuals, not groups. And while there are groups of people who band together, there is strength in numbers. I understand all of that, but that's not what makes this country the greatest country on the face of the earth, Chris. In my opinion, it's the fact that it celebrates the individual and therefore can accelerate exceptionalism among
those individuals if they truly believe that they can do it. Because I'm Gary Jeff, I'm not Chris Smitherman. And that's why I also hate the term snowflakes, because snowflakes are each individually different. We as human individuals in this country are each individually different, and one size never fits all. And these group blanket policies meant for you know, one group or another group, I think are divisive and it eliminates the vision, the original vision of America.
What do you think, Well, when I think of one of the greatest Americans, doctor Martin Luther King, as an example that people just use now as a punchline, but the reality of it was that he sacrificed his life, He sacrificed his family for this country to show us a better way,
to give us hope and light. And very few people are willing to give their life for anything, and so this notion that we can't I'm thinking of East there's notion that I can burn the flag as an example, which I am absolutely against, or be disrespectful to the flag, which I don't support because what it doesn't do is I acknowledge the imperfections of the country, but
still is the greatest place in the world. And whether you're leaveing nice, whether you're Italian, whether you're Mexican Americans and you come here, whether you're African Americans or you're African and you come here from another country Nigeria, or whether you come from South Africa and you're here, you're working your butt off to make it and see the exceptionalism. If I could say on this very powerful radio station, here are some of the keys for those families that might
be listening. Make sure your child is doing their homework, make sure they're at school on time, they're sitting in the front row, and they're not being disrespectful to the teachers. You want to make sure that your kid understands that you're investing in them by taking your pennies that you have, like most hard working Americans do, and instead of buying things in this consumer world that distract our kids, invest in them. The generations before us did that.
They were putting flags figuratively in the ground because they wanted their generation to be the generation behind them to be better than they were, and they were willing to sacrifice and dig wills that they would never drink from. So we're living in this country where it's not about or whether somebody is black or white. Most of the time, it's about whether you want to work hard, whether you want to handle your business, whether you want to be respectful and pop
off a yes sir and a no man and respect your grandparents. You know, it's it's about whether you respect your parents, and when there are gaps in your family, uncles and grandparents need to stand in that gap for those children like they did fifty years ago. Because our families, Because our families, the family structure in America, Gary Jeff, whether you're white or black, or leban knees, or whether you're from another country, that is where
the pressures are. We are asking our police officers to be moms and dads and uncles and teachers and not cops. I need cops to be cops. I need teachers to be teachers. Right. So the problem here is that we have people I'm talking about this social agenda to have these professions do things that they are not supposed to do. And so I just I just share this with you as as you and I talk. Brother, this is an
exceptional country. I admit that I had phenomenal parents. As we're coming out of father's dad a great father who passed away twelve years ago from pancreatic cancer. I had a great mother who took care of me, who was in the Cincinnati public school system and retired one from Procker and Gamble, one from Cincinnati Public schools. My point is that they stayed together as a family.
We didn't have all the money in the world. There were six of us, But I tell you what we knew this If I went to school and a teacher called and told my father that I was out of line. He was never going to blame the teacher. Chris, I was dead on a rival. Any parents think to this. Please the conversation, Thank you, The conversation is just getting good, and we gotta go. I'm sorry, I'm all out of time, Chris, thank you so much. Brother,
couldn't jude teeth message. I didn't expect that. That's all. Thanks for having me. Thank you, Chris Smitherman with us Stephen Friend FBI whistleblower after one o'clock, Get your tickets now dot com four hours are and what they're doing to pay it forward and give back. Listen to the good stuff on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm like a good woman bag and I'm make a good woman steal. I'll make an old woman bluss and I'm like a young girl sweel. I want to be up put a
babe in yoga yoga. I'm that I'm bad of the bowl, badad of the bold, bad of the bowl. Into another hour of this Bill Cunningham Show in for Willie Today, Gary Jeff Walker with you on this June teenth, twenty twenty three interesting perspective and insight from Chris Smithman on the holiday that we're in the middle of right and said, I really had never thought about So it's good to have some thought provoking stuff invade your brain every once in
a while. Keeps it from completely atrophying. Now on our list, a guy who went from a beat cop to an FBI whistle blower and paid the price, still is paying the price, is a new book called True Blue, My Journey from beat cop to Suspend an FBI whistle Blower. Please join us in welcoming one Stephen friend. Good afternoon, Stephen. How are you.
I'm doing well, How are you today? Doing fantastic? We saw your testimony, or at least some of us did who were paying attention and on the right network that would actually show your testimony in front of the subcommittees in Congress. Here was one of your quotes. Working as an FBI special agent was my dream job. Nonetheless, the FBI cynically elected to close ranks
and attack the messenger. There are laws in this country protecting whistleblowers. They're on the books, and I would suggest you, and we've heard this phrase a lot lately thrown around at different people. No one is above the law, even the FBI. It should be that way, but it's seemingly this agency, this law enforcement agency, seemingly to many of us, has been
totally politicized and weaponized against political opponents of the establishment and one party. What do you know about that, Stephen, I think that there's a historical president in context for this. Within the FBI, if you look through its history, the FBI is basically an extra constitutional agency that was it's better to ask
for forgiveness than permission. It was begun and then Congress sort of backdated legislation to establish it, and I think you can make the case that the FBI has really never ever been about preserving the Constitution, but instead preserving the status quo for whoever was in charge. So in the thirties and fourties and fifties, communism was the opponent and the FBI did abating of those and I think the public at large sort of view that is a good thing, and assume
the FBI was the objective force for good. But then flash forward through history and the powers of b did not like the draft Dodgers, so the FBI went for draft dodgers. Martin Luther Kingdom, the civil rights movement. The FBI didn't like that, so they went after him through co intel pro And now we've just moved into the next transition as the war on terrorism was sort of was done. So they military did such a good job of camping that
down. But the national security mission of the FBI had to be justified. And they've gone from looking outward as sort of a century on a wall and now looking inward and targeting people who they considered to be domestic terrorists, who the President labeled as the anti government, white supremacists, and those tend to be people that are opposed to his agenda. And again the FBI are preserving
the stas quo on behalf of the willing elite. Well, I was not at the Capitol on January sixth, and I'm kind of glad I wasn't. Now with all of the atrocities that have been perpetrated by the agency on otherwise law abiding citizens. They obeyed the law in every respect except for opposing the establishment and one political party. Stephen talking to Stephen friend and I wasn't there,
But I worry now about me being a public person. I'm on the air I'm on media, and it's not the everyday mainstream media narrative that sometimes you know you for example, having you on the air is not something that a lot of mainstream media would do or want to do, whether it's to you know, promote your book or just get the news out there that this
is going on. When I saw James Comey and his handling of Hillary Clinton, and then you know, the behind the scenes finegling to target Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, and saw all of the other elements of the FBI. People in the FBI, Peter Struck, Lisa Page, we know now all of their weaponization to keep Donald Trump from being a president and then to keep Donald Trump from serving effectively as president with crossfire, Hurricane, and all the
rest. And I saw Andrew McCabe. The first thing I thought of when talking about the weaponization and the abuse of power by the FBI was j Edgar Hoover. And you mentioned historically the FBI, as an extra constitutional agency of this government has been kind of the whatever, whatever the status quo was that needed protecting, they were going to protect regardless constitution be damned. What do
you know about what happened with January sixth. I know you had your clearances taken away the second that you and some other agents decided to testify before the subcommittee. Well, what do you know what troubled you that you told you? And I don't want to give your book away, but what troubled you mainly when you told a superior about what you had found and learned. Yeah, and my whistleblowing was out of basically a twofold concern. One was that
the FBI has departed from its own rules for investigating cases. So January six happens should be one case run out of Washington, DC, with, however,
many subjects that need to be investigated. But instead a decision was made very early in that process to open a separate case for every single person who seemed to be a subject, and instead of on paper running them from Washington, DC, where they actually were running them out of a task wars, they're kind of off the books, but tom paper opening the cases around the
country to correspond to wherever that person happened to live. Of all the fifty six feal offices around the continent, and that created a false illusion that domestic terrorism. We now have thousands of cases spread around the country, and it's a statistical manipulation that the FBI is using to perpetuate this narrative that domestic terrorisms in fact this quag nationwide problem, and it's just not true. And I think the January sixth is an egregious example of something. But this has been
going on for a long time. And it's tied to Integrated Program Management, which is an FBI quota system that it is not only tied to measuring its performance, but it's also tied to its budget. And senior executives received compensation bonuses thirty to fifty thousand dollars for hitting quotas, like a ticket for a book for a traffic cop right, So that was that was one concern, and then secondarily, I had a genuine concerned that there was a risk to
the public safety with the operation that was going on. In my office. There was an individual who had been in communication with the FBI, had pledged to cooperate, was represented by attorneys, and we were going to send SWAT to his house. And I felt like I was the guy in the room the day before the Waco or Ruby rig and said, why are we doing this? We should just call him on the phone, and we can always talk about Monday morning quarterback Waco and rub vision. I said, I'm here
now it's Sunday. I'm here, and we need to address this. And unfortunately, senior executives and the FBI or are not willing to do that. They are content to make the process of the punishment for so many of these people, and they're willing to put their safety and the FBI personnel safety at
risk to do it. Do you believe or do you know, Stephen Friend, if there were FBI operatives undercover people who may have fanned the flames of January six for protesters who did not have those kind of intent but got drawn
into the capitol. I don't have firsthand knowledge, but I can tell you that would not It would be surprising me if there weren't there, just because of the the scale of the event, and then the nature of domestic terrorism investigations in this country were the demand from the politicians vastly helped strips the supply where they want to have that talking point. As a result of that,
so many groups get infiltrated by either undercover or our confidential human informants. And the thing about informants are They only get paid if they provide productive information.
So there's a tendency with these informants to gin up activity amongst individuals who are not pretty supposed to do it. And that's what we saw happen with the Gretchen Whitmer case in Michigan, where the majority of people in the room where either informants or undercovers, and you had these guys who were not pretty supposed to engage in any sort of nefarious action where they're going to kidnap the governor. But as a result of the plodding by those informants, they essentially attract
them. So let me ask you this now. Of course, we're learning that the FBI has a lot of information on the president right now and his family and bribery. They have documents, there are tapes. In fact, we we listened to tapes that was released through channels of Joe Biden talking under the phone allegedly to one of these Barisma executives. And Dave, if you have the second cut, I wanted to play this for for Steven. I
don't know if you've heard this before. These came via a guy named Dan Bongino who used to be on on Fox News Channel and his instant Graham. He was he released these tapes, and the supposedly shows Joe Biden talking to a Barisma executive. It's kind of off, Mike, Um, but this is about the FBI, particularly Dave, if you would, if it is to record with him, at least I want to know that. No, no, they are not. I told you that I concluded he had nothing
A nice stopped. That was it. There's no reason to talk to again. Okay, thank Jack. Go to confirm that with here. So Joe Biden is assuring this person that the FBI is no longer looking into this. We've taken care of the FBI in essence, is what he said. Your comments, if any, Stephen, I think it's just an further indication that
the FBI has completely weaponized. I mean, this was this source support that we've heard talked about over the last couple of months, even where the informant came forward with this information that Joe Biden had been taking bribes as a vice president. That was during the summer of the twenty twenty election, and the FBI was content to hide that information within a source reporting document, as opposed to doing his due diligence of either an assessment, preliminary investigation, or an
an investigation. And the thing to remember is, and I always tried, you got to put politics aside. He had to do the Joe Friday justifacts and all the facts whatever they lead you, And that might exonerate Joe Biden. But the fact that they're unwilling to even engage in the prerequisite investigation and investigative activities that are necessary just indicates to me that the FBI is in fact
beyond redemption of this point as an a political objective force for good. Real quickly, Stephen, what has happened to your life and your career since you came forward? While I was my security clearance was suspended, which is what the FBI now uses to get around the Whistler protections. And they suspended my clearance for looking at the employee handbook improperly. They released my medical information to the New York Times. They try to attempt to put a gag order on
me. And did I beat my training records and did not be my requests for outside employment? And the necessity dictated the day and I had to resign in order to accept the position, which I did with the Center for Renewing America, where I'm currently a fellow and advising the Select Committee and the weposation of the federal government. And I now have this this book that's finally been published in sitting with the editors to the last few months, and luckily enough
it's pass al muster. And then I'm just grateful that disinformation gets as many people as you can. The title of Stephen friends book is true Blue, My journey from beat cop to suspend an FBI whistleblower. You remember an FBI swat team before all of this and living your dream, really and then you step forward because you didn't believe that the agency was acting in good faith and
as a constitutional law enforcement agency. And this is what you get. And it's a sad story, but I'm glad that you're out there telling it. I'm glad that people can read about this in your book and all of the hell you went through just for being somebody who cares about America. Well, thank you for telling Thursday and that you know it's never never the wrong time
to do the right thing. And h and Nuts just dies for my oath, and my oath will not expire until I do from this earth, and that's my my pledge to my fall citizens, and I'm just hoped that other people within the agency will will honor that oath as well. Well. God bless you and thank you for coming on with a steven friend again. True
Blue is the book. It's out now available everywhere. And if you care about what is supposed to be, if you care about the rule of law, if you care about being able to point out the wrongs that sometimes occur within these huge government accreacies, you ought to pick it up. Thank you, Stephen very much. Take care, Thank you very much. You mention
Andrew Furman. The fur Ball is going to join us for a makeshift stud report after the next newscast, and we will get to that and in good order as we continue, Gary Jeff Walker and for Bill Cunningham on this Juneteenth, on seven hundred WLW Are you a blurry eyed, pillow haired, snooze button hitter? Are you a morning hater? Are you grouchy and unpleasant and
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seven hundred LW. Garry Jeff Walker in for Bill Cunningham and the replacement stooge report. You know, we have to have a stooge and so I figured there wouldn't be anybody better if Seg couldn't be here this afternoon with us, wouldn't be anybody better than a guy who did seven hundred WLW sports talk for years was thrown out on his ear and he landed on his feet anyway, and now he's back with a vengeance. I'm talking, of course, about
the one and only Andy Furman, the Furball. Good afternoon, Furball. How are you? You duped me? Now on a stooge? You do me? You're you're you're not only not only you were a stooge, You're a replacement stooge. Liked you had. You had a hip replacement, by the way, I hope it's going well. So I have a stay tomorrow, could be six weeks since the surgery. And I was swimming yesterday, so thank goodness, not the limit Dot the Kurt, thank you very much
from Christ's Hospital, swimming in your own sauce. And so you've had a hip replacement, and so now I have a stooge replacement and it's you, and I just wonder how long my rehab will be before I'm back up to snuff. Well, all you gotta do is like this, cut me off and then that's so over. That's fine, You're in charge. I got a lot of things you always okay, So first off, let's talk about
the Reds. This is supposed to be kind of like a quasi sports thing, and then we'll move on because I know you've got brought that up, and it's it's it's a great vibe that the city has right now. They're excited. But I remember way back when he was an official for the Cincinnati Reds, I believe his name was ful Castellini, and he asked a question, where you're gonna go. Well, that question, mister Castellini, has
been answered because they're going to Great American Ball. They are about Cincinnati. What a team? What a team? What a team? Oh? How about that Marty Brennaman doing a little singer in the roads with the with the Cowboy. But you're right, they are coming back in droves because guess what, the team is winning. The team is fun to watch, the team is exciting to watch with the young players. And if you've brought about all the bubble heads of the world, you could give out dollar beer, fifty
cent beer, pree cigarette cigarette, but lottery tickets. Nothing repla more good marketing than winning in sports. Come to come to March shot cigarette butt night at the ballpark. There you go smoke him if you got him, honey. So you're right, right. So here's the thing, this is what I want to see. I want to see all these so cold baseball experts in the media saying I was wrong, I was wrong. I want to
see that. I think we were I think we were all wrong. Anybody anything, anybody who opined about the red season before it started or in its infancy this year, should say I was wrong. And I am one of those peoples that was wrong. I was totally wrong. And I'm not even you know, a baseball expert. I'm just an observer. I'm on the radio, I you know, make my little observations. I was wrong.
You don't make your money talking sports and may you may have said it once or twice prior to the season, but I'm heavy hitters the third of state. I mean the thought to state whatever. The guys are right for the paper, the guys that have the webs, the guy that's helping behind the microphone, the TV guys who buried this team early on. And I'm not I'm not saying that. You know, it's a bad down, Glad they're winning, but come out and say you are wrong. It happens o's though
you were wrong. You you miss got you a miss guy that you didn't believe in the team, whatever it may be, just I would appreciate that. See that that's the thing. People have such a stake in their positions, and they're afraid that if they admit they're human frailty, then no one
will ever listen to them again, when actually the opposite is true. If you come out and I say, if you say I was wrong about COVID, I was wrong about the fact that it didn't come from that lab in Wuhan, you know, come out and say, But nobody's coming out and say that. Nobody's coming out and saying anything about being wrong about forecasting another
one hundred lost season for the Reds except for you and me. Well, look, I was done in a position on a local radio station like seven hundred WW to say you know what they were going to do this year. I took on Fox Sports Radio, which is a national thing. And honestly, if if you live a Fox Sports Radio in thirteen sixty or Sirius XM eighty three, which I'm on, I would say eighty five percent of the conversation on that station in sports it's football. Football moves the needle. It's
all NFL football, and now college football is right around the corner. Well, we got football moving the needle in this town too, with this recent success of the Cincinnati Bengals, a Super Bowl trip at all event and Joe Burrow, you know the fact that they're they're looking at signing him forever to be their quarterback. And I think they can work that deal out, and they should. But the Reds are relevant again and it's been a long time.
Andy. I moved here in nineteen ninety four, not from it didn't really have a background with the Reds at all. I think I moved from Nashville, so the Braves were kind of my team, were the Cardinals. I lived in Saint Louis earlier on when I was a kid. I lived in Chicago when I was very young, so I was a Cubs fan. So it really wasn't it wasn't read oriented at all in my baseball proclivities whatever they were. So when I moved here to ninety four, it's like,
Oh, I'm working for the home of the Reds. This is fantastic. Got to go to the ball game a couple of times, and this is pretty neat. But I never really got excited about the Reds because there wasn't a whole lot to get excited about in the nineties and the two thousands, as you well know. So now there is something exciting going on with the Cincinnati Reds and I can't take my eyes or ears off of it. I mean, I asked my wife. I asked my wife. I asked my
wife last week. I said, do you remember any time and the time you've known me? And she's known me initially since nineteen ninety six, so almost thirty years. I said, have you known me to ever be excited about watching or listening to the Reds before now? And she goes no. I said, I know, what were you going to say? Well, yeah, you can go one step further. Not just the excitement for the
Raids, the excitement for the Bengals. They're in the Super Bowl two years assignment for FC Cincinnati game at FC Cincinnati playing away in the Eastern Division and MLS. So it turned around and there's a lot to root for in this town. But I think it's great. I really do. Do you think that Bob Huggins will will ever drive drunk again? After this latest that's stupid in Pittsburgh. You know when I when I heard that story, my heart
skipped a beat because, you know what, it's self induced. And I mentioned this the other day on the radio, the fact that that was self induced. It could have been avoided. And John Moran from the Memphis Grizzlies who took a toy gun and put it on Instagram and went to a strip joint and put it on Instagram and now we suspended twenty five games again self induced. You gotta think how people don't think so For the money that Bob
Huggins makes, he only could get a driver. He could get a driver in a car, give by the driver a car to drive him around. But I think there's certain people that have this personal I think he's got a disease anyway. I think he's got some problems with alcohol though as knows out of my mind about that, and I feel for him, I really do. But I think that anybody who was in that position has some sort of an egg and I think he has one of those do you know, Hawaiian
ego. But the problem was he was in Pittsburgh and when the cops stopped him, costs, where are you he's a Columbus. It's a pity. I read the report A beer cans of beer finals in that car. I mean, come on the way, he'll remembered for that any anything else that he has done good in his career. Forget about Forget about the final four trip what you see forget about all the twenty win seasons there. Forget about home winning coach, coming home, coming home to his his alma mater at
West Virginia, and being universally loved there. Forget about all of that. All we know is Bob Huggins likes to drink and drive, and he's not very good at his job. Not very good. He went down in flames, right, His career went down in flames. And and that's how that's that's his You know what, you know you were we opened this up, Andy, We talked about opening up with you know, these baseball aficionados and experts admitting they were wrong. I gotta say, I'm gonna admit right here
and now on the radio that I was wrong. Nancy Zimfer was right. What do you think about that? Now? You exactly know you're exactly right. I was. I was calling her that horrid woman on the air, I called Nancy Zimfer, that horrid woman for the persecution of Bob Huggins that you see. But you know what I'm I'm saying, I'm rethinking my position now. Andy. You know what though that it was a very tough call
on her pop with the popularity that he had in this town. And you're right, it was a hell of a call and a gutsy calling up. But the same situation now in West Virginia. He's a favorite son, he played basketball there and obviously he probably could have run for governor in the state of West Virginia. But it's a tough call. And C. Gordon Ge,
the president of the University of West Virginia. Uh, the situation, I mean, he had a little go and well I'm looking now right now they said he resigned, and I gotta believe he was some attorneys involved in this situation where Bob said, look, I don't want to be fired. You could you could get rid of me with the with the cause of full cause he won't get any money. I'm sure he's not gonna get paid,
but he'll be looked at it that he's resigned rather than being fired. But I'm sure between the lines of the return the attorney's paperwork, he was fired and let go for cause what does he do now? You know, constly I would think that he's got so many friends in the personal next couple of months, he couldn't do nothing. But I think when the NBA season starts, I wouldn't be surprised if he's hired by an NBA team. I really will. I know, I want to. I want to see him.
I want to see him get help if he needs help. I want to see him back. I don't believe in canceling anybody for good ever, But yeah, I mean, what's going on here, Huh? He does need to help. He really needs to to dry out. I hate to say it, but he's really just you know, I did a show with him years ago and he'd come into the studio and one ninety him in there with a bottle of wine, red wine, and I said, what's that for? As well? You know I had that heart attack, and you know,
doctor said, the wine's good for it. Let me come on, Really, you're bringing a bottle of wine into a radio show. I mean there was back then, there was there was signs of that back then. Andy I used to have a handle of Jack Daniels in the studio on my Friday radio show when I was in Nashville, but that wasn't many years ago.
I think I'd like I think i'd like a drink right now. After talking with you, you had some thoughts on you had some thoughts on juneteenths you want to to Uh, yeah, I wanted to wish you a happy shooting teeth And honestly, you know, I got the thoughts process rolling after our Chris Smithman with the one I thought he was tremendous. I do have a question. Maybe maybe it's all feet, maybe it's not not called for. But look, I have no problem honoring and making it a national holiday.
Juneteenth's no problem about that either. But I don't think you could. I don't think you could have it both ways. When you want to remember what happened back then and then you want to cancel out what happened back then, and what do I mean by that? You can't get rid of history. And all over this great country of ours, they've had these statues taken away, destroyed, statues of like Robberty League. I'm not a great state of Robberty Lee, but this is they changed their name. They changed the
name of Fort Bragg in North Caroica because he was a Confederate general. It's been for years, centuries, right, Am I aunt to something here? You can't have it both ways, yes, yes, on a jutee. But honestly, you have to remember why you're honoring jueteem right, sure, I mean you can't. This is what isis and these other terrorist organizations do.
They come into a territory and because of their new reality, their new truth, their new push, their new religion, whatever their new cult, they've got to get rid of all the endtiquities and all the statues that existed before. But like like nothing existed before isis. And that's how these counselors are the people who want to cancel the fact that there ever was a Confederacy, that there ever was a General Lee, or that Thomas Jefferson should have
name his name take because he owned slaves. All of that needs to be preserved and remembered in opportunity for history's sake, for for history, not only for history's sake, but for the future's sake, because if you don't remember history, what happens Andy, it'll happen again. You're doing again. That's right, you're exactly right. Right, Well, no, you're exactly right. I'm really honestly. Sometimes sometimes we argue, but now we're on the
same page. And I thought I was going up a hornet's nest on the wrong tree. But again, you can't have it both ways. You can't honor a holiday for one reason and the same token you gonna get rid of the and ignore why, why the holiday? Why you're about in the first place? That's right, right? So what else you got? What else you got in your holster before we go? Well, you know why.
You're pretty powerful, and I'll tell you why. You know, I do some work at the point, I'm in Covington, right, So some lady lately passed me in the hallway today and says, hey, they're gonna be on the radio today. I said, oh yeah, I sunded up being with Gary Chiff. Yeah, that's what he said. They got They got seven hundred w W one and the hallways at the point, I can't believe it, really, Well, have you have you seen the ratings lately?
Seven hundred LW is on everywhere, and well, you know what, it's kind of like seven hundred ww with everybody else seven on the field. There's a horse race. There's nothing else on. Come on, there's no competition. I mean, look, I'm there. I was up in the lum and maybe they should have like a oh, you know, the ridd have Old Timers Day, they bring the old guys back, they play a two winning game or whatever. Yankees did it for years. I used to go
as a kid. Maybe they said they should have that a seven hundred WWII is Chris collins Worth back? Why do you think I invited you on today? This is your old timers game. No, I'm talking about like you know, Jim Scott, bring him back, Bob Trumpy, Chris collins World, Gary Burbank, bring him off back Old Times Day. No, No, you've had your shot. Now you're done. We've we've honored your contribution. And in the Pashton goodbye bye erball. Andy Furman on the Stood Report,
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retention of national defense information and conspiracy to obstruct all I made you. I'll bring up the house of all baby be buying. I want to be up with the baby Yo. I'm that, I'm bad of the bold Bahad, of the bold Ad. I'm this Juneteenth Gary Jeff Walker, entrusted with keeping this ship ship shape, the mighty Goliaths of the Nation Station the Great Americans Show, Bill Cunningham truly honored and humbold to be back again seven W l
W and Gary Jeff Infra Willie Today. When I was lining this thing up last week, I knew I was going to be in for Bill. I was lining the show up. One of the people I knew I had to have on is my next guest because she is continually one of the bright spots in my radio life. Whenever she is available, I said, yeah, gotta have KK with me. KK is Karen Cataline, the host of Spouting Off. We've been guests on each other's show. It's a totally insensuous and
in sensuous relationship and we're not even related. And she's back again for a little chat this half hour. KK. How are you? Yeah, we love each other, yeah, and we have spouses, but we love each other anyway. Yeah, absolutely, it's so great to have you on this afternoon. How are you? It's a pleasure and an honor, sir. I'm off today, so I just got you on my schedule. Then you're how about this? You're back on with me right now, so it's time to be on. Uh. So KK, if I can call you that
I usually do when I'm sorry about that's come my little pet name. It's okay as long as you don't add another K. It's no doubt, especially on juneteent all right. Yeah, so it is Juneteenth, And we had some very thoughtful comments on the significance of Juneteenth from Chris Smitherman, who was
a former vice mayor here in Cincinnati. He does happen to be brown skin black, an African American, if you want to call someone that, uh, And he had some very thought provoking things that I maybe had not thought in depth about about this particular day and why it's significant. And I agreed with him. But then I had this from my friend d Gray Gary Jeff Walker at seven LW dot com his message for the Cincinnati City Manager, claiming
that Juneteenth is a black holiday. He said, I wish someone would tell the Cincinnati City manager it's not a black holiday. My great great grandfather fought in the Indiana thirty six for three years, including both days at Shiloh and about sixteen other entanglements leading up to the Seas of Atlanta, while under the command of Grant and Sherman. Shouldn't I be honored? No, I didn't fight those battles. He did same for the descendants of slaves, slave owners,
criminals, and victims. I should call you sometime and tell you what My cousin who was the FBI counter terrorism agent and was a senior agent in the Hoover Building at the end of his career, he retired ten years ago and told me there are criminals on the top floor of the Hoover Building. And that was before Trump and all this crap. So, anyway, a couple of things to start us off with your thoughts on Juneteenth, if you have any Well, I don't have a problem with Juneteenth or all of that.
What I have a problem with, and that still bothers me, is the profound tendency to divide us rather than unite us. Now calling it uniting us as always a bit of a platitude, because what exactly does that mean? What I don't hear, what I never hear anymore in the propaganda media or anywhere else. Are even the most feeble attempts to unite us, to
help us understand each other better. It bothers me profoundly that under the heading of tolerance and diversity has been the greatest license it seems to hate and to demean others by virtue of whatever group they belong to. It's almost an offense in some circles to say that we want or we aspire to a colorblind society. I think that's been misunderstood, but to be offended at the notion, and I hate to quote this, but I shall that we should be judged
by the content of our character rather than the color of our skin. Indeed, is now is now somehow considered an insult. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have a holiday for the freeing of slaves in eighteen sixty five. But if it is an excuse to hate people of a different color, or if it's an excuse to demand reparations of people who've never been slaves, never owned slaves,
a state that never had slaves, then it's being misused. So I just wonder where where our holidays that really do unite us under one flag, one, you know, one nation, under God, indivisible. Those holidays are being demeaned and demolished before a very saw headline. I'm sorry, you got me going. I saw a headline on a typical leftist site that said, isn't June tenth Juneteenth a better symbol of freedom than the fourth of July? And I don't mind telling you, I was deeply incensed by that.
Well, because all of this is being used as a bludgeon against traditional America, and traditional America ain't racist, you know, America, and Americans of all races and creeds have been maligned, have been called the whole country has been called systemically racist. And these are all excuses to stir up Hayden division instead of the other way around. So we're gonna have a holiday, Yeah,
go ahead, you finish your yours comment. If we're gonna have a holiday, Yeah, if we're gonna have a holiday that celebrates this, then the other thing and I and now it's a LGBT trans month, which is a whole other story. Then uh, let's have holidays in which people remember the founding of this country. Mum, that's all I'm gonna say. I think this is a ruse to to tear down traditional America and Americans in the
name of of tolerance when it's an oxymorn. This was an important point that my friend Chris Mitherman, who I mentioned to you at the top of this conversation Karen made in his call. He said, this does not this is not overshadow July fourth because, and he kept on saying throughout his recitation of his feelings about Juneteenth, this is a great country. We are in a great country. And he denied the systemic racism that is claimed by people who want to He said, I am not a victim. I've never been a
victim, and I'm not a victim now. So he was very very staunch about what you're just saying in reinforcing this, and it came from a total came from a totally different place. July fourth is my favorite holiday on the calendar. Thanksgiving follows close behind, but July fourth is my favorite holiday because it's truly an American holiday. It is a holiday that should unite us. It's a holiday that our founders, including President Adam's calling for this celebration of
American independence that has now lasted two hundred and fifty years. Almost two hundred and fifty years, Karen, we've been celebrating the fourth of July in this country and will continue to do so and should, And you're right, nothing can take away the glory that is America's Independence Day, nor should it.
I'm with you, well, and in the in the attempt to demean others, we can take the holiday of either June teams fourth of July and talk about how all Americans, no matter what their color, race, or creed, yearn for freedom and we can celebrate that as a moral imperative. As you know, you know, I put the Judeo and Judeo Christians and my
people, the Jews, their story. Our story of the Exodus stood as a symbol for George Washington and the founders to recall that in the Bible in order to that it was an inspiration to George Washington, the story of the Exodus, yes, you know, the the marching or the exodus to freedom,
and that is a universal experience. It shouldn't be used to be even to be told that Juneteenth is a black holiday defeats the entire purpose of celebrating liberty, which in this country we are quickly losing if we allow these bureaucrats and politicians and others with an axe to grind to divine us in that way. You reference Pride Month, and I have as my last guest this afternoon, at the bottom of the hour, just a truly incredible individual named Ryan
Would also known as Lady Maggie. I gave him to you. I don't mind taking credit. Yes, he is great, isn't he fantastic? So we'll be covering a lot of that. Tony blinkoln Tony Blinkin just got back from China and has claimed we've made great progress, an amazing first step in relations with China. I wonder if he decided to tell Gee that he was giving the rest of the country to him by twenty twenty four so you don't have to worry about that pesky presidential election. Well then that's a great pros.
Yeah. The headline that I saw on one of my favorite sites said that he declared that we no longer support Taiwan in their quest for liberty. Did you ever think or live quote we do not support Taiwan independence? Did you ever think you'd live to see a day when the United States of America, country built on liberty, would support a communist country over the desire of
a country to remain free. That's where we're at in this country. That's why the divisiveness we spoke about earlier is so deadly beas being used politically. Tony Blankin and Joe Biden might as well be Neville Chamberlain capitul relating to Hitler. When you capitulate to communist China and Gie the dictator for life. I hate to say it, but I would use him in a more strong word,
collude, not capitulate. Kalude. They're definitely holding hands. Yes, well, we know that the Biden family was enriched by China and Ukraine. And that's not just you know, rolling over and capitulating. That's that's engaging with um, actually acting in concert with Yes. Yeah, it's a very
disturbing. And yet you know, we have to keep you know, encouraging our listeners and others to tell the truth and to stop being shy about saying, for example, to go back to the beginning, America is not a racist country, and it is a moral smear of three hundred plus million people to call it one and we have to stand up and say that unapologetically,
you know well, and furthermore, Karen's it's a smear on them. Since we're talking about history, it's a smear on the memory of the half million plus Americans who lost their lives to sort it out in the first place in the Civil War. I was about to such a good point, and I was about to say that. And we keep seeing people with a political acts to grind, to diminish and demean those people who gave their lives to abolish slavery. Which was it just you know, we got to know our history
in order to defend it. That's for sure. I could do a better job of it as well, because I didn't have the greatest historical education, if you will. But it behooves all of us since we're on the front lines of this fight. We need to know our history. We need to be able to know enough of it to and what the country stands for in order to stand up for it. And I think that's one of our one
of our purposes right now. You have a gift coming from me. You have a gift come yes, because you use the word of the day behooves. It was. It was a secret magical word. And you have you used that? No? No, I I wrote this down. I wrote this down on a piece of paper. The word of the day is behooves. Let's see if I can get anybody to say it. And you just
did. Oh my god, I'm impressed. You know. No, there should be confetti falling in front of you right now, and lights and bell yes, okay, it is dinging and the duck comes down from the ceiling. It's gradow marks. You bet your life. Not that tale imitation with Jay Leno. That's awful. By the way. Anyway, I'm getting off
the track here. Karen Cattle and our guest on The Bill Cunningham Show with Gary jeff on SEVENLW and KK. Last thing in our last three minutes, I was wondering quite at what were the classified documents that were taken from Mara Lago that they really want. I wish we could see what they actually talk about in national defense. I wonder how many of those classified documents have something
to do with Joe Biden's involvement in Ukraine and the bribery. Do you think do you think that some of those classified documents have anything to do with that, and that's why they had to get them back with a raid and prosecuting Donald Trump, Ford and all the rest. H Gary, Jeff Walker.
I'm going to say, and the most profound thing I have said in our conversation today, I have no idea and the Inn't it convenient that they classify the documents we're not allowed to see, so we're not allowed to see what they soul? I mean, you know, it's just wonderful. It's like sticking a mic in someone's face and saying, when did you stop beating your wife? The same kind of thing. You don't get to know the evidence
because it's classified. But the evidence is what justifies your rating a duly elected president's home, but we don't get to know because it's classified. All I feel like saying is Dana Carvey as the church lady, how convening? Good? Callback? I love that. I love it. So what are you? What are you doing if anything? I know you said you're off work today. What are you doing, if anything, to celebrate the rest of juneteenths What do you and Scott have planned? Is? Are there big plans
for dinner tonight? What's happening well? I haven't paid a lot of attention to junior teams, and believe it or not, in a free country, that is my right. Yeah. Well, okay, well what are your plans? What are your plan? Person? What are your plans for the rest of Monday? How about that? I'm gonna slob and watch a movie now. I I'm good with people, like I said, who are celebrating as long as they are law abiding citizens and they don't riot in the streets.
But I I am. I don't like changing holidays and making like a month dedicated to nine year olds having mass ectomies. I don't like that. I would. I would much prefer uh that people start remembering what the fourth of July an Independence Day means. But I I at the risk of being repetitive, I think these so called new holidays are being used as replacements for the old in order to use it as an excuse to demean our founders. Our founders, Oh they were, Oh they're just old white men. No,
they built us a country founded on liberty. So I'm looking forward to celebrating Independence Day every day, and I hope others will too. And Karen, you're absolutely right about that. An Independence Day just as not the independence of the country from the British tyranny, or it's the independence, it's the independence of the individual. Each and every one of us should be celebrating that and should be able to sell the biggest point of all, and that's what
we're at the risk of losing, is collectivism versus individualism. And we must hold on to that because that's where brilliance comes from, all of our unique selves. Karen Cataline dot com checker out, Karen Cataline. That's kat ali ne dot com. I will talk to you and we will spout off again soon. KK. My pleasure, thank you, Oh you bet a breaking back. Seven lw welcome hopefully our friend, Lady Maga Usa. His name is Ryan Wood. Ryan Would is an admittedly gay man. He's also a
religious man. He's a Christian, And you wonder, how does that, how does that? How does he balance that? Well, we can we can ask him about that. I have in the past some very simple answers. You know, I'm not a perfect human being. I'm a sinner,
and I understand what my sin is. But he thinks that the greatest sin is being perpetrated on our kids in this country right now, by people who claim to be or take a refuge under the lgbt QIA WTF umbrella that says that a child as young as two or three knows that they've been born in the wrong body. How many kids do you remember when you were growing up
that were boys that were effeminate, girls that were tomboys. My wife said, I was a tomboy, you know, before puberty happens many times, the fantasies of children who like to play with barbie, boys that like to play with barbies, girls that like to rough house and play with guns. You know, that's just a part of growing up. It's a part of being human, and there's nothing sexual about it. But yet we are living
in a day at an age where some states do not have. In fact, California, you can be thrown in jail as a parent for nut coddling to the gender identity of your minor child. And these people are being told over and over again in places like schools and on the internet that it's okay, that it's normal to feel like you need to transition into another gender. It's normal for you to think that your sexuality given at birth is a mistake. And here we are in the middle of Pride month, and again we're
seeing these messages. There are twenty states now thankfully in this country, that have passed laws or in the middle of passing laws that say that, yeah, the parents need to be involved and if the child is under the age of eighteen in other words, not a legal adult, that these surgeries and this puberty blocking cannot be continued. There's an eighteen year old California woman, she's eighteen, named Lila Jane. I saw the report earlier today. She
was put on puberty blockers at the age of twelve. I don't know if this is with their parents' consent or not. This is California, after all, she had her breast removed. In other words, she was mutilated at the age of thirteen. She is now suing Kaiser Permanente Hospital who did that operation when she was a minor child. You cannot have children, You can out have people who are not legally adults making these decisions without parental consent or
by bullying the parents into going along with it if they're not adults. There's a study out just now. It says that one percent of transgender individuals regret the decision that they made. I suggest we're going to see that go higher and higher and higher. And obviously this young lady who is now de transitioning is someone who wishes she had a chance back to change her mind now that she understands exactly the ramifications of what she has done to herself or what has
been done to her by those who would groom her. It's not hateful to be against the transitioning of children because children have not had enough life experiences. They're brains aren't fully developed enough to know exactly how life changing that decision will be. And there are people who are pushing this through indoctrination in our public schools, in public libraries, the drag Queen's Story Hour for five year olds
that we've heard so much about. And that's why governors like RHN DEAs Sentis have said, you know what, this is not what the people of my state, my constituents want. It was not a don't say gay bill, that was never in the legislation. It was about introducing children to sexualize material at an age that is inappropriate. Kids can't make those kind of decisions for themselves, and that's what if Lady Maga had been with us, I know
he would say this is his crusade. And again, this is an openly gay guy's not in a relationship right now, who has worked as a performer as a female impersonator and has been shunned by some in the LGBTQIA plus community for stating that kids are being groomed and it's wrong. He believes as I do, and maybe you do, that these people are nothing but political pedophiles praying on the most vulnerable of us in our society, and that's nothing that
anybody should be proud of. Food for thought. We'll take a break and come back. Two forty four Gary Jeff and for Willie on seven lw GONE pre run of home run TJ Freedom said Tyler Stevens all the Folish thrust the right field. Tyler Stephens just does number twenty seven at a hurry, highly dives and makes the Dad number nine beat mccreen, turning it all rounding second best foot driple who is Sincinnati reds play I'm the home of the race.
It was seven hundred w l w CBG Cincinnati. The man who is taken over my role around here as the whackamoll of talk radio will be here with his h with his sidekick who's actually driving today? I guess that's what they call it when you do a two man show. Who who's ever in this seat is driving the vehicle. Whoever is in that seat is the passenger in the vehicle and therefore subjugated by the man who's driving. I mean, the guy is driving gets to work the air conditioner. The radio says when we're
gonna stop, when we're not gonna stop. So if the person who's in the passenger seat wants to change the radio or one to pee, he's got to ask the driver for permission to do that. And relegated to that secondary role. Today for the afternoon replacement for uh, for Eddie and Rocky is Dan Carroll. How does it feel to be the driver? Well? Or could we have keV, Dave, Dave turn up Mike four? Please? No, he didn't know you were in here. Dave? Are you listening?
Uh? Check? Check now we're on. So anyway, how do you feel about being in a secondary role to Jason Williams. I'm voluntarily letting Jason lead the show today because as I'll just sit here and follow, you're submissive. It's essentially like taking a day off. You're submissive. It's actually I'm actually at work. Your role playing kind of getting fad. But it's really more like a day off. So it's it's a it's a bonus for me. I have a couple of things I want. It's gonna have to
do all the work. Well, it is heavy lifting. Sitting behind this sitting in this chair. You've been here almost three hours, and he was the head that wears the crown. You look bushed. Well, no, I look like I look like George H. W. Bush after his first
term as president. That's what I look like. You might say that just from my friend Steve Shackelford, a more Juneteenth father Gary jeff During a genealogy search of my family, I discovered that my sixth great grandfather was a Cherokee Indian who was killed by whites for having married a white woman my sixth great grandmother. Yet I do not feel that I am owed anything. I also found out that my great great grandfather, who was an outlaw who preyed upon
the hill people of Harlan County, Kentucky. So I guess things balance out and he left. An article is about his great great grandfather, Asher Hensley, but I don't think that in truth. When I talked to Chris Smithman earlier, he doesn't feel like he's owed anything as a result of juneeenth and slavery. In fact, just the opposite, and he made that very clear. I don't think anybody truly feels that Juneteenth means that they are owed something
because of the color of their skin. I mean, there are some people in politics who are using this as a weapon, as Karen Cataleen said, to divide and conquer us as a nation as a unified nation. But I don't. I don't feel like people celebrating Juneteenth means that they feel like they're owed anything. Do you No, I don't feel that way. And if we're gonna have a federal holiday for this, then it's like Andy Furman said, I'm in the same boat as Andy Furman. Fine, do whatever you
and I I don't erase histor you can sake of. You can't erase history, and doing that is you do that ill advisedly. If you seek to erase history, and you and You've got so many out there who just can
continually lie about this. So, for instance, I often talk about our friends at MSNBC, and they have gone to the Their baseline now is whenever they talk about Rhonda Santis, for example, is that Rhonda Santis is a white supremacist, Rhonda Santis is a racist, homophobe, all that, and so that that before they even begin the discussion on whatever the topic might be concerning rhn de Santis, that's their starting point. That that that that that
is a given. So how can you reasonably debate and exchange ideas with people when they go into it with that is their baseline? How does that? How does that happen? You can't have legitimate debate on that. The most poignant part of our conversation with Chris Smitherman earlier, I think, was when he said, I am not a victim. I've never been a victim because of my skin color, because of my ethnicity, because of my people, And it was very proud and highlighting his his father's PhD. He was like
the they called him the Jackie Robinson, a procter and gamble. That's why Chris Smitherman is probably I think there was a time on this radio station when Mike Allen was the most listened to or the most the guest that most people enjoyed hearing, right, I think Chris Smitheman has taken over that role. Now I was proud, just tremendous. Here's another here's another little something for
you to put in your pipe and smoke it. Or if you if you like edibles, we can get you some of those two gen Z according to this story in The New York Pot, I don't know if you've seen this, gen Z is ditching credit cards and going back to cash. This is the most hopeful thing I have heard in a long time, because I see it all over the place, kids going, oh, man, I hate
cash. I'm using credit. But gen Z is going back to cash and engaging in an act known as cash stuffing, where they got separate envelopes for the stuff they want to put their their money. It is. I still do this at home, you know, I'm not going to say that where it is, but I still I still stick money for certain things. Certain
Yeah, flush with cash. If you call like three hundred four hundred bucks, that's flush with cash for me. But anyway, gen Z has got a staggering according to this report, sixty nine percent of gen Z, according to Credit Karma and their survey sixty nine percent of gen Z is using cash more now than they did twelve months ago, as opposed to gen X forty
seven percent and baby boomers like me thirty seven percent. And this is according to this report, again published by Credit Karma, a rise in cash stuffing by gen zers and with all the push towards a digital currency and getting us off of cash so they can track every single payment, every single expense, everything we do financially. Whoever they are, and I hate them already because they're trying to do this. That's that's our friend, Barack Husaint Obama in
the Deep State. Well, yes, exactly, because they want to know where all the money is and they want to keep track of everything we do. That's the only reason to push is on for digital. This notion when you see that there are places at nightclubs that you go out to that the moment you walk in the door, the first thing you do is you hand over your credit card and everything goes, every purchase goes right onto that credit card, and you go and you party all night long and you don't know
how much money you spend. Then you get the sticker shock when you see the credit card bill. You know, two or three weeks later when it comes in the mail or I guess email is great American ballpark, you can't use cash. I hate anywhere in the stadium. I hate it too, and it's probably the only reason. And I am not going to endeavor to go to a Reds game, even as hot as they aren't, as exciting as they are to watch. I'd love to go to the State em and
see that I was invited to go to the Reds game tonight. I'm gonna be here instead. I'm not pretending I'm not participating in the taking away of our financial freedom by participating in a cashless society. I'm just not going to do it. I'll go to barter before I before I sign up for some digital I mean, it's it's strictly biblical. It's right out of the Book of Revelation. You know the mark of the Beast. Well, you cannot buy or sell anything without this mark or in that could be a chip in
your hand, or that could be a card. Well, and you've got to say you have to use if you want to buy or sell any And you've got Barack Obama out there now, who's doing interviews talking about that everyone needs to be identifiable. And God forbid you put some misinformation out on the internet, anything other than the prescribed government approved wording of it, on any subject, and then you can be tracked to be punished for putting out what
they consider to be misinformation. Speech police. Yes, all right, this is the kind of stuff that he's promoting. It. It's Dan Carroll and Jason Williams in on this holiday which you know none of the regulars actually work for some odd reason. Jeff Brantley will be here after the news the top of the hour, the Cowboys. We'll be talking from Red spaseball with the cow of course, what else would you talk? Ribs? Maybe with sauce on the side or greater screen. That's right, baby, that's right,
all right. So when when Jason Williams is driving and you're sitting in the passenger seat, I'll be right here where you see you like, try and give him what Willie and stuff and distract him so you know, maybe he swerves off the road. I'm a professional professional one need I say more? Dan Carroll, Jason Williams coming up next, And for Eddie and Rocky,
thanks for joining in. It's three o'clock believe that GOLW News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati trying to get on better footing with the three o'clock report. I'm Jack Crumley breaking now US Secretary of State Anthony Blinkin today in China meeting with President Shijin Ping. It represents the highest level meeting on Chinese soil between the two countries in the last two and a half years.
You have this dominance effect that's happening there with China where they're trying to become the dominant player in the eastern Western Pacific, and the United States continues to maintain that that is where they want to maintain international rules of order. They say that China has been transgressing those by moving beyond, by making territorial claims in the South China Sea, by conducting provocative of military exercises on Taiwan.
When then Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited. So it's very complex relationship, and the whole situation is essentially how do you get beyond this? That is ABC is Louis Martinez. This visit by Blincoln could set up a meeting between President she and Resident Biden later this year. Now, the latest traffic and weather together. I'm the u S Health Traffic Center. U SEE HEALTHS Proton Therapy Center targets cancerous tumors with submillimeter precision. Call five one three five eight four beam
to learn more. That's five eight four b E a M. Just one accident in your way. That's on Reading Road between Dorchester Avenue and McGregor Avenue. I'm John Crawford on news radio seven hundred w WELW. Still some slow spots in the city as rain continues to fall on this afternoon drive. Northbound seventy five is slow through Florence for several miles on the approach to the two seventy five interchange in Erlanger, then you stay slow up into Fort Mitchell.
Things open up a little bit more coming down the cut in the hill on the approach to the Brent Spence Bridge. Southbound seventy five just a little bit slow. Heading into downtown. On that same approach, there is a report of a crash northbound seventy five near the Norwood Lateral. You're just a little bit slow on the merge from traffic coming west on five sixty two. Also seeing that normal afternoon slow down northbound seventy one, right around the Red Bank Merge, heading up into the Kenwood
