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Dwyke Heward on our website. Win that's win. Enter it now. Do you want to be an American idiot? It's the substitute idiot And for the usual American idiot Garry Jeff Walker. Filling in for Scott Sloan on this Monday morning, May sixth, twenty twenty four, Dave Keaton tells me, you may have heard in the news big problems if you're on Ronald Reagan trying to get on northbound seventy one, that ramp is completely shut down because of a

car on its side. Dave said he thought eyewitnessed it firsthand. Didn't look like a fun way to start the work week. To be sure, it's great to be with you. I had a nightcap planned for tonight, and you'll hear more about that later because we actually got an interview that I had planned for tonight's night cap with the Reds off and boy do they need to take a break, go back to Maybe a full day of batting practice will

help. But I've got an interview that I recorded for the nightcap I'm going to air today because it was just a really cool interview with a guy who was at the forefront of the British Invasion of the early nineteen sixties, toured extensively with the Beatles. Had the same manager as the Fab Four, Brian Epstein. And we'll talk with Billy J. Kramer a little bit later on

today. Karen Katalene joins us first, right off the top, and who knows what we will get into, And of course the phone lines are always open if you'd like to opine on any of the guests or maybe dig into what we're talking about. It's always a good idea to invite you in. Not that you'll come, but the door is open five to one, three, seven four nine, seven thousand one, eight hundred the Big One and they contact me email at Gary Jeff Walker at seven hundred WLW dot com without

any further ado. One of my favorite guests on my night show that I will bring along with me anytime. She is ready, willing and able, and she said she was all three today, which is great. I might call her a professional skeptic because she's always very skeptical about people's opinions of different news stories and has her own take, and that's why I love talking to her. The host of Spouting Off. You can find her online at Karenkatalene dot com. That's k A T A L I n E. And you

can find her right here right now. Good morning, KK, How you doing well? Good morning GJ. Dubbs. How are you. I'm good? Professional skeptic. I didn't know I was, but well, I mean I'm skeptical. If if you can get paid to be skeptical, why not. I mean I'll question everything and often have. Yes, absolutely, I

think it's a wise habit to get into. Yeah, I mean I was just questioning over the weekend for some reason, going back four years and all of the things that people like you and I were pointing out that should have seemed to be obvious for most people but weren't when they were locking us down and shutting us down at the height of well, actually the beginning of what they called the pandemic and what I called the scamdemic because it was all planned

demic to me, and I was thinking about our visceral reaction to masks and lockdowns and how we were largely derided by a large population of the people, a large percentage of the population, rather about our stances and calling it out for the bs that ultimately it was especially the lockdown, especially the lockdowns and the lockdowns, the isolation abb the isolation, the discouraging of methods of healing that have always worked in the past, that had a sixty and sixty year

track record now being derided and laughed at because they, you know, they showed their motive. Sorry I interrupted you. Were you done? I'm never done? So you just got you just gotta jump in. I was gonna, you know, before I get into any of these number of topics I wanted to talk to you about. I wanted to ask you. Try and keep it under the three hour time limit of the show because there are other guests planned. Now, Yeah, let me tell you what I think about

that, what you mentioned. Yeah, you know, you sometimes often have a talent of u zeroing in on something that I was just writing about this morning when I got up, and that was these times are are calling upon us to look at our blind spots, our weaknesses, our moral and ethical challenges, if you will. And we've all talked to friends and loved ones and tried. And it doesn't mean we are perfect either, Oh, absolutely not. I have incurred. I've had this one conversation with an old friend

who believed everything he was told, and he's a rocket scientist. For heaven's sake, he's a smart man, but somehow he was going off previous information, his earlier biases. And here's the kicker. He takes people at their word. He's an engineer minded scientist. That doesn't mean they all do. But this man is a smart man who, as it has become a parent, he couldn't really identify what the true motive was. And in fact he refuses to assume, make assumptions, make a check out what's going on anyway.

What I'm really kidding at here is you have to in these times read the behavior, not the rhetoric. And there's a great word in your tradition, which is an English word discernment. We're all being asked to use our discernment. That doesn't mean we're always right, but you have to be willing to say, well, I was wrong, or just because someone is saying

something to me, it may not be the truth. The upshot of it was that those of us who were skeptical, those of us who asked questions, when we got a response of censorship, hatred, absolute, absolute vicious response, how dare you disagree? For many of us that validated for us that we were on the right track. Yeah. Yeah, there's this story out just over the weekend where for former CNN host Chris Cuomo disgraced CNN as host. Chris Cuomo said in a recent segment that he is suffering from a

health condition after he received a COVID nineteen vaccine. And so Megan Kelly also came out these people who believed what they were told by big pharma and the government and the corporations who were pushing everybody to get jabbed that I refused. He made the revelation during his program that's on News Nation now. He said, we know that vaccines can have unintended consequences aka side effects, but nobody's really talking about it because they're too afraid to blame and they just wanted to

go away. And that's again back to your smart rocket scientist who just took people at their word and believed everything that he was told by the powers that be, you know, in a state of fear, in a state of fear, and followed and got a new study out from the Cleveland Clinic.

I was pointing this out on Saturday morning. Karen new study Cleveland Clinic, the data shows that if you received more than one dose of the COVID nineteen vaccines, any of them the mRNAs, you were more likely to contract COVID than people didn't have any jabs at all. And it's two. If you had more than three doses, you're two and a half times more likely to have COVID to be infected. So it was the way we were pushed, the way we were forced, the way we were demonized when asking a question

and having doubts. Doubts were now a crime. No less than Alan Dershowitz, who I interviewed, he almost hung up on me. Sorry, I've got the morning crowd this morning. It's going around, he wrote. He wrote, it's not COVID, he wrote. He wrote that the government has a right to force a needle in your arm if they want to. And

now he's silent. I don't know what he's saying now. But the point is that when you take a massive departure from every tradition this country has ever had, about welcoming debate, welcoming descent, especially from the left, who led the charge on free speech, on marching to your own drummer, on oh my God, pro choice, my body, my choice, and and it's all as if overnight it became your killing grandma if you do not put a rag on your face, if you do not do as you are told.

Meanwhile it became clear, but only took four or five years whatever it was, to realize that they're the ones who killed a lot of grandmas. And their behavior after that four or five years later, of continuing to push something that quite possibly is deadly and covering it up, sweeping it under the rug, making it a crime, almost a social crime to do what you and I are doing right now, which is to discuss it is what points

to their guilt. I think what it is is that people are afraid to let themselves believe some people that any kind of organized administration, government powers that be could do something that diabolical. It's like in nineteen eighty two, if all the media and the politician said, go to your medicine cabinet and now that there's been cyanide in tailanol, go and take as much of it as you can. What if they covered up? What if they covered up that

there was cyanide? No, what did they do? They were terrified. Everybody in the country took tailanol off their shelves because that was the responsible thing to do. It may have even been the bad pun overkill, right, no doubt. People were showing that they want they cared about their fellow human being. Now we're all just fodder for an agenda that we are supposed to pretend. And if you do not pretend, you are called all manner of

names. No. I had a called a domestic terrorist. I had a friend of mine that is no longer a friend of mine, I guess more than welcome him back into my life because of my opposition and my questioning of the COVID nineteen vaccine. He had a very good friend himself who passed because of COVID and who refused to I guess, get treatment in time. So he kind of blames me and people like me for his friend's death. And it's incredibly sad, Karen, and so sad. And think of the logic

that people were swallowing some people. A vaccine is supposed to act as a shield to protect you from the dangerous whatever it is, and yet they were successful in making people believe that the unprotected who are supposedly vulnerable, were infecting those people who are supposed to supposedly supposed to be protected. Yeah. Easy. So they turned truth on its head, and and they succeeded. Remember the mass mention that Biden the puppet was saying over and over and over again,

and everybody was repeating it. It's a it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. In other words, they're the bad guys. Go after them. You know, this is classic scapegoating and and inciting people to hate your enemies. Where have we seen that in history? Where well, we've seen a lot of it in recent history in America on college campuses too, in a different

form. And how telling we got? We got like no time left, but with this, I just wanted to leave you with one thing, Karen, How telling was it that the punk protesters, the over educated, useful idiots and on these college campuses, including here in the Tri State at Miami, wearing masks and then referring to the police as being the same as the KKK when they're the ones covering their faces. Wearing masks is a cowardly act. And that's why you can't go into a bank and wear a mask.

Every the truth has been turned on its head. I know you got to go. I think one of the bright spots in a very dark time is that we're all being called to know what we stand for, to use what discernment we have, to determine truth from falsehood, and to trust your gut and look at your own self and what you know, what, where are your fears and where are you willing to stand up and be counted. It's for liberty and true diversity age, diversity of thought. Karen Kataline, thank

you so much. Thanks for a spout off with us this morning on the Scotch Loan Show, Gary Jeff Walker. We'll take a break and come back with Tim Hale, who was a January sixth prisoner, his tale of woe and more as we continue. If you're heading done I eighty in Nebraska, take exit three fifty three and head to York, that's where you'll find the world's largest collection of marbles. Hmm. Talk of about a thrill that's so cool, seam thrill you get listening to the seven hundred WLW live stream on

the iHeartRadio app. RV's coming all shapes and sizes and lazy days has them all right here in Wilmington between Cincinnati and Daton, and we'll are breaking now. At nine thirty seven on a Monday morning, May six, the judge in the Trump trial in New York, Juan Mrshan, who imposed these ridiculous gag orders on President Trump find him a thousand dollars per violation last week, says the fines are not working and will consider jail time for Trump on contempt

of court charges. He says the gag order violations are a direct attack on the rule of law. Well, almost everyone who knows anything about law and the rule of law says that the gag order he imposed on President Trump are a direct attack on the first amendment of the Bill of Rights in the Constitution, free speech. When everybody else can talk and the defendant can't, So

now they're going to put Trump in jail. I have, oddly enough, a former political prisoner on the line right now to talk to us to find out what it's like to have your freedom of speech violated by the so called rule of the lawless in places of power, like in seats of judges and in prosecutors. Tim Hale, a January sixth prisoner political prisoner, joins us on the Scotch Loan Show. Gary Jeff with Tim Hale. How you doing, Tim, I'm doing phenomenal. Thank you for having me on. So

I mean you're gonna good morning. You're gonna have something else in common with Donald Trump if Judge Murchon gets his way and puts him in jail on contempt of court charges for violating his unconstitutional gag order. Your thoughts, it's actually not very different from January sixth. They prosecuted us for First Amendment demonstrations and

then they threatened us for speaking out about it. You know, they not only denied it like they wouldheld our evidence for instance, and if we tried to go to the public about it, a lot of people were penalized. You got people who have who got longer sentences for talking about their cases. This pure weaponization of law, and it's an absolute violation of his you know, of his civil rights. Why shouldn't he talk out about the people who

were trying to destroy his life. It's America. It's it's amazing that this is happening in the United States of America. And yet the the the Biden DOJ or the Department of Injustice as I like to refer to it, UH continues to use this as their tool to Trump down any kind of or tramp down any kind of descent. And two, just when people won't shut up, just put them away. Take I'm waiting for them to come in this studio and take me out in handcuffs for this commentary. It's it's unbelievable that

this is happening in this country. Tim, You serve this country in our military and you spent how long in jail for being at the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one. How long did you serve in jail? I was incarcerated for three years for being at the capitol and not even and with no violent charges either. Well, so this is the future. This is going to happen to anybody soon. Let me ask anybody whos anybody who supports Trump just be there. Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.

It's all one sided. It's unequal protection under the law. It's exactly flies in the face of what we're supposed to be protected from our government according to what the founding fathers said out and they've turned it on its head. Let me ask you first, what was your motivation to be at the Capitol on January sixth in the first place? Tim I was just there for a speech, and I went there in a suit and a tie. That tried to

to, you know, make me out to be a domestic terrorist. After that, you know, they went through my phone to find offensive memes, you know, to make me look like I was this, uh you know, far right extremist. You know, I was an internet troll. They tried to use that against me. So there's your other Here are your other First Amendment violations, you know. I mean I was there in a suit and a tie. I would if I was there for a revolution, I

wouldn't have worn men's warehouse. I guarantee it. You'll look You'll look good at it. I guarantee it, especially when they're carting you off to jail. Now let me ask you this. Uh you went to to President Trump's speech at the Ellipse, correct, So you went to the Capitol when that was over, you marched to the Capitol grounds or you walk to the Capitol

grounds, correct? Right? Oh? Yeah, I mean, And here's the thing, Like a lot of stuff went down at the Capitol, but most people did know any of that was going to happen because by the time people showed up, by the time people showed up to the Capitol. There were barriers that were knocked over by guys like refs and stuff like that, you know, and his crew, And that happened a half hour before people like me even showed up. So thousands and thousands of people just pour it

in thinking it was just going to be a protest. They didn't even know they were on restricted grounds, so you know, I mean, it was clearly a setup, and it was also a way for them to target Trump by attacking us. You know, I think they planned this years ahead of time. What were you charged with to be incarcerated for three years? I

mean, initially it was just like stupid misdemeanors like trespassing. But once Biden got into office after the inauguration, then that's when they started indicting people. And they basically took this en run era charge called eighteen USC. Fifteen twelve. It's tampering with a witness. But they used this sub section that was at it from the n run era called obstruction of an official proceeding, which

has to do with destroying documents. Somehow the DOJ created this ridiculous legal theory that interrupting the boat count was somehow obstruction of justice, an obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress. Therefore, they could charge us with this ridiculous felony charge that's never been applied and it carries up to twenty years in prison, and not everybody's getting twenty years. But he saw how you know, how they treated, say the Proud Boys and the oathkeepers. They're trying to get

every you know, drop of blood that can get out of us. You know, they're trying to get blood out of a rock. So and by the way, I was in jail with informants who confess that they were at the Capitol to get out of trouble for drug conspiracies from twenty twenty. So they're actually at the capital to get out of trouble. And these are also the same defendants who said, well, these are the same defendants who had fifteen twelve first up held in federal court. And this charge, by the

way, is now being used against President Trump, the substruction charge. Hopefully the Supreme Court will toss it out. They just had a hearing on the sixteenth. But it's important people understand why I think that this was a setup not just for us, but also for Trump, that charge. That charge being used against us and against Trump was first upheld in court for federal informants.

That makes this look very suspicious. Now, the informants you were in jail with, I mean, were they were there to get out of trouble for d How are they going to get out of trouble for being at the Capitol on January sixth. There were a lot of actors at the Capitol who were there in costumes, with recording equipment, and they were basically there to

promote the insurrection narrative. And so it's just it's very interesting. People don't see the nuance here, see you like the same twenty second clip of a window being broken for three years, But they don't realize that the crowd is

full of predominantly just regular Trump supporters. But there are also a lot of assets in the crowd, and so people there were Antifa there, there were undercover Feds, and there were a lot of suspicious people who've been outed since then for basically being asses, people who went there basically to stir up trouble, to incite chaos, and really to get other people in trouble. It

was basically in Trotman. You mean like the twenty five percent, as much as twenty five percent of the so called student protesters that we've seen on college campuses for the last week and a half are actually paid by someone to be there and stir up trouble. You mean like that, Yeah, kind of like that. Or when I went to Trump's inauguration in twenty seventeen and there was all that rioting and chaos there and people had pre made signs that sort

of thing too. Yeah, it is all about Trump derangement syndrome. Why why are the establishment powers that be, especially now during the Biden regime, so afraid of Donald Trump and his supporters? Well, you know, I think it's uh are they afraid of because are they afraid of losing America? First? Yeah, I think it's I think it is about the I think it's about the fact that the people who control the levers of power don't want

to give them up. And the second there's a little hiccup in twenty sixteen, that's when they start losing their minds and melting down. It's not about his tweets. It's about the factors. Scared of losing power, they steer the guy. They will do anything to get rid of him, and it's the most Unamerican thing I've ever seen in my life. Well, let's see, Uh, it looks like this judge in New York, who's obviously should have recused himself at the beginning of the trial since he's a Biden donor and

his daughter is being paid by the Democratic National Committee. It looks like he's going to try and put Trump in jail now on contempt to court charges for a gag order that never should have been issued. So we're watching that. How about the difference of treatment for the spoiled brats on college campuses that are supposedly pro Palestine protesters, even though they're talking about the Green New Deal and any number of things that the Left all was guards is close near and dear

to their hearts. The treatment of them when they are arrested, when they're finally stopped from breaking into buildings, and you know, violence against other people and threatening other people, intimidating Jewish students, the treatment that they're receiving from the legal system, as opposed to serious concerned American citizens in a suit and

tie at the Ellipse watching a speech and being on the Capitol grounds. I don't see any of those protesters going to jail for three years, But I guess they're not really threatening the corridors of power in Washington, d C. Is that the difference? Yeah, that's about it. You know what's interesting is, you know you talked about with the Founding Fathers wanted. I mean

it's even more than that. Like, if you look at the Fourteenth Amendment from after the Civil War, you have this idea of selective prosecution, you know, the idea that we're supposed to have not just due process, but equal protection. It's like, we can, we can do this, we can, we can do this dance all day. It's like, look at

the Antifa riots, like the Portland riots. You know, one of the biggest legal arguments we made is that this was selective prosecution, that even if the laws were legitimate, and they're not, they're being applied with an equal eye and an uneven hand. You know, you look at the BLM riots from a year before January sixth, tear I remember when we were locked up. You had environmental protesters who are rioting in DC and like rammingh ramming bike

racks in the cops and stuff like that. Yeah, you see this all the time, and now it's not. It's what the most disturbing thing is that this is going to this is going to reach levels that aren't even political anymore. You got that Daniel Penny guy who was just trying to be a citizen from what I could tell, and they arrest him for choking out a bomb on a on a subway, which you know, I don't I'm not happy anybody died there, but you know they're going to use the law.

This is just this isn't just law there. They're going to weaponize the law against anybody who's just trying to do normal American citizen behavior. It's insane. The country's going to be destroyed by this, but it's it's well on the way, especially when you see the expensive all look the same tent set up. You know this is this is orchestrated from somewhere. Like you said, the ready made signs Trump's inauguration in twenty seventeen and the instant ready to go

signs that are all similar. This is not grassroots. This is not somebody getting out some cardboard and doing some kind of project at home with their magic markers making these signs. They had them ready to go for the Palestinian protests and for you know, whatever protest you can think of that airs on the side of anti American sentiment, an anti freedom sentiment. It's always it's always the same. The pro Palestinian protesters, to me, are no different than

the BLM or the ANTIFA. It's all the same group of people. And there's a great percentage of them that are paid to be there, that are organized and paid to be there. Tim and we're seeing it now. How come Congressman Jamal Bullman, the black congressman from New York, wasn't arrested on obstruction of official business when he purposely pulled the fire alarm to keep a vote

from happening in his own in his own building. You know that is he got a slap from the rest And do you want to talk about obstruction of official business? He pulled he cried fire in a movie theater and and and he got a slap on the wrist and said, don't do that again. Right, Well, that's the that's the that's actually, that is a sign that I think, I think what you just pointed out is a really good point. Actually, And one of the funniest things is when they had this

the Supreme Court hearing on the sixteenth about the obstruction charge. I believe it was I believe it was Justice Gorsic who actually made a reference to what could possibly be considered obstruction under the DOJ's interpretation. Then he asked them could it Could it include someone pulling a fire alarm and stopping Congress. So I think that the and he was obviously trolling them, but I think that that I

think that's a really good point. I mean, whether it's you know, whether it's black block rioters who were you know, just burning the country to the ground, or whether it's people on the highest offices of the country, this standard never gets applied to anybody else. So yeah, you're that's a that's a really good point, and people really need to pay attention to that. It's it's really it's this. This, this, this toxic abuse of

the law has creeped into every level of our governments. Whether it's the state governments and you know, these state trials, or whether it's the federal The whole system has just been plagued by this. Americans really need to pay attention. They can't. They can't just shrug their shoulders. This is a really important thing. You're absolutely right, and I and again, I promise you. I was with a friend in twenty seventeen in DC. I saw people

rioting just over Trump. I know, I almost missed Trump's parade because of these people. This. They do this all the time all over the place. We just don't hear about it because of course or you know, nobody wants to talk about it. But yeah, yeah, they this, Uh, they want to burn this country to the ground, and they'll give people a slap on the wrist for it. Well again, they almost burned a

federal courthouse to the ground. And uh when they were rioting before I know, And and the Democrats, we're paying bail for those people because it was all an orchestrated protest. It wasn't about George Floyd. It wasn't about uh a lack of it was just like these protests on college campuses aren't about Palestine or or the treatment of Palestinians. It's about sewing. It's about sewing chaos and taking down our society. That's it, plain and simple. Yeah,

it's it's might makes right. Unfortunately of it, they're the ones, they're the ones with the mic because everyone else wants to be civil and go on about their day. Yeah, but the thing is there were more of us than there are of them. I believe that wholeheartedly. So we just need to stand firm where and whenever we can. How can people get in touch with it? Tim, we're out of time. They can follow me on

Twitter. I'm Tim Hale, Criminally Funny Jay sixer and uh you know, if you want to learn more about the January sixth defendants, you can go to Patriot Freedom Project dot com. All right, appreciate you having me on. Oh, thank you, good stuff. Tim Hale with us on the Scott's Loan Show coming up just after ten, Steve gorham Men, this is Jeff for Tri State Men's Health. And you've heard me talk a lot about how treating low testosterone can improve your sleep, your workouts, your energy levels

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you need a solid lineup to tackle your financial four. Yeah, Trump back in courtroom in New York, and the protests still continue at some college campuses, which, by the way, now we know who's pay or at least have an idea of who is footing the bill for the paid protesters that aren't college students, and so maybe you are that are fomenting the violence. Yes, they have been violent. They've proven themselves to be violent in Colombia and

also a UCLA in US and many other college campuses. Intimidation can be violence, and George Soros has donated to Jewish Voice for Peace and If Not Now, which are both funded by the Tides Foundation. George Soros gives lots of money to these groups, as does David Rockefeller Junior, as does Bill and Melinda Gates. Guess what all three of those sets of people have in common. They're also huge Biden donors. Maybe that's why Joe hasn't been clear cut

on the protest a semitic and threatening violent protest. Switching gears here to the environment. By the way, some really cool pictures out from the European Space Agency. They have a solar observer it's close to our star here in the Solar system, and ejections and eruptions on the Sun, some of them bigger than the Earth and minuscule compared to the Sun's size. But I wonder how that affects our weather. Could the Sun possibly have anything to do with our

climate? We have the executive director of the Climate Science Coalition, an author of many great books on energy and climate. Steve Gorham joining us. The latest is Green Breakdown of the coming green breakdown of green energy. The Inflation Reduction Act, which is really a green energy bill and did nothing to in fact, it inflates inflation, does exactly the opposite with all kinds of green policy demands and mandates. And Steve Gorham here talking about the coming electric power

shortage we will be facing very soon because of these policies. Steve Gorham, good morning and thanks for joining us. Hey, Gary, Jeff, great to join you again. All right, Yeah, we've got some We've got some real big things on going on right now, and that is the coming electrical power shortage. This is really going to be a big, big issue. So what do you, Steve, just just at first blush, what happens? What is the more important factor in determining climate on Earth Solar cycles

or carbon emissions. Well, it's the solar cycles. And you mentioned the eruptions on this sun. I hadn't seen that, but if that is occurring right now. As I talked about my first two books, Climatism and the Mad, Mad World of Climatism, there's a lot of data that shows when the sun is very active when it has sun spots and eruptions that we end

up with global warming. The Sun sends out a thing called the solar wind, which is a lot of particles that go out through the through the solar system, sub atomic particles, and they tend to block the the ions that are coming from space that bombard the Earth continuously, and then it affects the cloud formation in our atmosphere and it's less cloudy when the Sun is very,

very active, which means that we have some global warming. Yes, So the electric power shortage you're talking about, there are some new big demand drivers for electric power. Can you go through? Why are we going to need more or while we're producing less? Yeah, So for many years our power has been flat. About the last two decades, the United States has used about a four point one million gigawade hours, very very little change. But

now we have a whole bunch of things that are occurring. Three of those are green drivers we have. Well, first off, I should say the green movement. The first thing they want to do is shut down our coal and natural gas power, and that's fifty nine percent of our electricity today comes from coal and natural gas. A bigger share of gas coal's been dropping gas and win and soil have been replacing it. But we've got three big drivers now, and three big green drivers, and then one that's even bigger.

The green drivers are the bush for electric vehicles. Of course, we now have seventeen states with zero missions vehicle mandates want to get rid of all gasoline cars. That's going to be a big demand. Second is electric applyciences. A number of towns, cities, counties have banned natural gas and new construction.

New York City is about the biggest one there. And in New England, for example, the independent system operator that does the electricity in New England New England is SO has estimated at a shift to electric appliances, heat pumps instead of gas furnaces and propane water heaters. Those sorts of things will have more demand than the evs will. And then the third one is a big

new push for green hydrogen. The Biden administration has put billions forward to try and create a green hydrogen fuel industry for industry and for vehicles, and that requires vast amounts of electricity to produce the green hydrogen. It's done by electrolysis of water. But bigger than all of those is the new artificial intelligence revolution. This is really the big thing that's driving it. We have to produce AI. We need huge amounts of processing power, and so the big guys

Meta and Amazon and Alphabet and Apple are building these huge data centers. And for example, in Virginia, that came to the Virginia Power Company and said, we need a giggle watch for a couple of data centers. And that's that's as big as a nuclear plant. You know, where do you find a nuclear plant? I don't have one of those when the solar can't do

it. And not only new plants, but we have twenty seven hundred data centers in the United States and those are being upgraded with new Nvidia high speed processing cards to do aiy and they consume when they do that, they consume six to ten times more power. And so artificial intelligence electricity demand is going to rise from about four percent today to over twenty percent within a decade here at least that what it wants to do. And there's just not enough electricity

around to do that. So we're going to go. Well, Steve, here's the point. While these mandates, these Green New Deal mandates and the green energy that's being forced on us by the government. Well, we're going to be reducing our ability to produce energy. We're going to need more than we've ever needed before. How does that How does that translate to the normal person. Yeah, it's going to all. This whole thing is going to crash. What's going to happen for the normal person? First off is they're

gonna they're going to quit closing coal and gas plants around the country. And we've had some nuclear plants closed too, They're gonna quit closing those. We've just had a couple extended. The first thing we're going to see is that they're going to stop closing them and they're going to start extending and refurbishing nuclear plants. California's Diablo Canyon plant was scheduled to close next year. It's been

extended to operate to twenty thirty. In Michigan, they shut down the Palisadess nuclear plants in the summer of twenty twenty two, but it just received a billion and a half dollars from the federal government to restart operations. So that's the first thing that's going to occur. The second is that the regular citizens is going to have much higher electricity bills. You know, a guy who wants a big guy like Meta, who wants a gigawatt, they're going to

probably be able to get that. They're a big demand customer. But what that means everybody else is going to have less, and so prices are going to rise for all the regular citizens, and they're going to rise for EV and EV charging and for heat pumps and green hydrogen just isn't going to be cost effective. So this thing is going to stop the green energy movement right in its tracks. That's what we're going to see in the next decade.

And it's going to be a lot of wheeling and gnashing teeth on the environmental side. Yeah. So what about nuclear power? Where are we at in this country? And and did we just go off the deep end, say when things like Three Mile Island happened and we had the know nukes movement in this country as you mentioned the Diabolo Canyon and the other facility being extended. Do you are their plans to build more nuclear power plants now in this country?

Well, it's kind of mixed, but we're heading toward a problem with nuclear as well. There are ninety four operating nuclear plants in the US today down we used to have about one hundred and four of a decade or two ago. But these are aging. They provide nineteen percent of our electricity in the US, and we have mostly we are built between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety and so they're thirty to fifty years or more old. And the good

news is they can be extended to be about run about sixty years. But within by the end of this decade, we're going to have to retire a lot of those that refurbish them. And this is the same time that we're having this tremendous demand for electricity, So you know, we've got a problem with our aging nuclear plants as well. There are a bunch of people trying to do modular nuclear and molten salt nuclear. I hope they get some cost

breakthroughs there. But to produce a nuclear plant today it takes a couple of decades. This is not a quick fix, right, oh. Nuclear is not probably not going to be able to bail us out. Do you see a re emergence of coal fired, clean coal fired plants in this country and what would that take? Well, I think what they're going to do is stop shutting them down. You know, a large part of the Midwest has a lot of coal today, places like Ohio, places like Missouri, pretty

big percentages of electricity comes from coal. And those folks have all been told you got to shut those down, put in wind and solar. Well, that's not going to happen. Those are going to continue to run because we're just not gonna have enough a lot electricity otherwise. And so the green energy movement is just going to crash. And it's part of the green breakdown that

they've written about. So I understand that in Germany they are reopening plants that they had shut down because they've realized exactly what you're talking about, that there is absolutely no way they can provide power for their people and their industries with the green energy of footprint alone. With yeah, they restarted more than a

dozen coal plants. Europe has also built twenty five there in the process of building twenty five liquified natural gas import terminals to bring gas in from the United States and Qatar and other places. Europe's kind of a mix. England is becoming a third world country. Their electricity consumption has dropped about twenty five percent in the last two decades. But in the case of Ireland, where we have all these multinational firms, they have a problem also they have these data

centers there and they're running out of electricity. So it's kind of a mix across the continent, but it's going to make it very, very tough for wind and solar to try and replace all of these as the green movement has been trying to push. As we've seen a lot of car makers in this country with the EV mandates losing billions of dollars because nobody wants to buy their

product or not nobody. But it's not looking like we're going to be all EV's by twenty thirty or whatever the made up date for the elimination of fossil fuel powered vehicles. What's going to happen there? Do you believe that that's also on the road to like they're just going to give up on the EV dates. What's going to happen when no one's buying the cars and there aren't charging stations and there's not enough electricity to power them. What happens then?

Yeah, it's going to be real ugly. We've already seen some of that the price of used evs you can get them dirt cheap now. They dropped thirty percent last year in the United States. Hurts a rental car had to write down last quarter and the first quarter this year and last quarter last year like almost five hundred million dollars in the loss of the value of the evs that they purchased. We had EV's lost share in the first quarter of this

year for the first time in a couple of years. They dropped from about nine percent of a new light vehicle sales down to about seven percent. So it is kind of ugly right now. I think EV's are going to continue to penetrate markets, but you know, the small EV companies, I think they're going to go bankrupt. They're just not going to be able to compete. Tesla will be hanging around. Yeah, I see Tesla. I see Tesla's all over the place, but I mean they're the only ones primarily that

that I see on the road on a regula. Thing too is, you know, depending on what happens to this election, we could have a huge shift. Now we've got During the Biden administration, they were subsidizing renewables.

I'm sorry. During the Obama administration subsidies about fifteen billion dollars a year subsidies from the federal government going to renewables that dropped during Trump, It's come back up during Biden, but then they passed this Inflation Reduction Act, and the Cato Institute is projecting for fiscal year twenty twenty five that the federal government is going to allocate eighty billion dollars in subsidies for all this stuff like charging stations

and carbon dioxide pipelines and carbon dioxide capture and storage and green hydrogen. I mean, just just a huge amount of money flow for industries that wouldn't even exist without the subsidies. But if mister Trump gets in there, he recently called for cutting all this stuff back, and that would just crash just dozens and dozens of companies that have come to rely on these subsidies. So it could become very ugly next year. We'll just have to see what happens.

Well, natural gas is probably one of the cleanest forms of energy known to mankind, and they've been trying to curtail that as well, haven't they. Well, they have. Yeah, the green movement doesn't like natural gas because it gives off no other pollutants, but it gives off carbon dioxide when it's burned. And by the way, I sometimes ask audiences what fuel source has done the best to reduce air pollution around the world, And the answer isn't.

When it isn't solar, it's natural gas. When you put natural gas in a home in place of either burning wood or burning coal, we used to have coal furnaces and homes around this country. Yep, you reduce into our air particulates by one hundred to one thousand times. I mean, it's very very big improvement and air. But we've got that evil carbon dioxide which is very very foolish, so they want to be in gas as well. CO two is not pollution, It really isn't. That's it. CO two

is a necessary part of our atmosphere, of our biosphere. And the people who are anti CO two are just anti science period. Steve Gorham, You're not anti science, and I appreciate the information not in doctrination this morning. The book is Green Breakdown and it's available right now. Thank you, Steve, Thank you, Geary Jeff On the way Pastor Mark builts America at War twenty twenty four, twenty twenty six, Biblical references and more to what is

going on right now in our country and around the world. Ten twenty five at seven hundred WLW Men, are you suffering from a reptile function or pe? The medical providers that Proactive Men's Medical Center offer break Gary Jampman for scotch Loan on this Monday and we'll go from mental health Monday to spiritual health Monday maybe this next segment. Next cast is Pastor Mark Bilts. He is a founder and senior pastor at El Shadai Ministries in Washington State. Well known popular

speaker on the feasts of the Lord. Find out what that is if you don't know, authored four best selling books and videos on the feasts that have gone global, and he has written his latest book, America at War twenty twenty four, twenty twenty six. Many people asking if these are the end times as prophesied in the Bible, and I think those are valid questions for people of faith. Although no man will know the hour nor the day, Mark Bilt says he is seeing some signs, and the Bible does say you

will see signs. Mark Bilts, good morning and thank you for joining us. On seven hundred WLW. How are you. I'm doing great. I just want to thank you so much for having me on your program. Well, it's great to have you here. So explain for folks who don't know the feasts of the Lord. Sure, the problem is English. In Genesis one fourteen, as it got created the sun and the moon for signs and seasons. Well, the word seasons is the same Hebrew word for feast,

and this is why English is so messed up. The word moaid actually means an appointed time. So what the feasts of the Lord are referring to are passover, Pentecost, trumpets, yum kapoor, the feasts of tabernacles. Those are the appointed times in history when God was going to intersect human history and we would be aware of it, like he has a daytimer and they're scheduled.

Well, I know, I talked to you before the full solar eclipse that we were all enamored by back on April eighth, and you said this was a sign again of one of these seasons. Correct, exactly, And many people were saying something was going to happen on that day. I never said that. Just like a train signal is a warning, a train is coming. But you don't get attacked by the signal, you get hit by the trains. And so things are definitely coming down, and I see it

happening right before our eyes. In America at War twenty four twenty six, you described this this conflict and America really for the end times to be fulfilled, or the prophecy's to be fulfilled, America has to fall. Is that that's what you're assuming or asserting. I don't assume or assert anything, but

America isn't really mentioned too much in the last days. But I think America is going to fall just because she's become morally corrupt, right right, So what do you Was it any coincidence at all to you that these so called pro Palestinian protests sprung up on college campuses across the country and they're still ongoing, but they happened to coincide with passover? Was that any big coincidence to you, Mark bilts Oh, I truly think it is not. Really that

I'm the only one in the whole world. In my book, when I wrote six months ago, I said I ran would attack Israel this April, and that's exactly what happened. And that's in my book on page one twenty four, so I can see these things that are happening. And a lot of things you're hearing in the newspapers now are all written in the book. But the thing about the college campuses, it's all outside influence. They'll arrest one hundred people and find sixty of them even go to the college. The

biggest problem is Cutter. Believe it or not. Cutter has been sending billions of dollars to about one hundred different universities, and so they're buying professorships who are teaching all about Islam. They about one hundred American colleges and universities. When they received the money from Cutter, they illegally withheld information on about thirty billion dollars in the undocumented contributions from foreign governments. Okay, and so wow,

that not only that I don't ever heard of. Pearson Publishing. Pearson Publishing is the number one global publishing company for textbooks, be they nursing textbooks, high school, college, grade school textbooks, and Pearson is owned by Cutter. The largest shareholders are Cutter, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Turkey, and so they're influencing all the colleges, both by the professors as well as the textbooks even in the high schools and peers of Publishing is the most anti

Semitic publishing company there is. All this an anti sentimism, excuse me, anti sentematism, all kinds of begs the question two that I wanted to ask you, pastor Mark Builds is our guests from Elshadai Ministries in Washington State. What does the Bible say about those who oppose Israel or those who would try and defeat Israel. Well, Psalm eighty three talks about the nations coming together, saying they want to make Israel be no more in remembrance, but God

is going to destroy every one of them. And the main reason why is they're trying to prove from the Satanic point of view, They're trying to prove that either God is impotent and he can't fulfill his word, or he's a liar. So God, it's not saving Israel for Israel's sake, as for his own namesake. It says that he's going to do this. He wants people to know he can fulfill his word and that he keeps his promises.

So that's really what this final battle is coming down to sitting trying to show God isn't believable, you know, or able, just like with the like you were talking about earlier, the Passover. Well, yeah, I mean the reason that Satan was kicked, that Lisper was kicked out of heaven was because he thought he was equal to God. Correct, Yes, sure, and so this is just an extension of that. I mean, I figure, you get kicked out of heaven by God, you'd kind of get the

clue you're not on par with the man who made you. Exactly what's said though, is many humans think they are they become God, they think they have the power, and it's it's just insane the times that we live in. Yeah, I'm just looking at Zechariah fourteen too. Oh exactly, Behold the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee or I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken, and the house is rifled, and the women

vanished in half. The city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. They're talking about people rotting as they stand and you know all these other really incredible things. So it's probably not a good idea to be anti Semitic or to oppose Israel if you care about your eternal soul, right yeah, oh your physical soul, well yeah, because he will wipe you out. The thing is most

people don't understand the threat of this radical Islamic jihaut. The first thing they do is the jihat of the hand when they want to kill you. If they can't do that is the g hut of the mouth with protests. And if they can't do that, it's thee hout of the heart where they have training camps and they train. Well, we've had the training camps. I know a FBI agent personally, and he said, there are terrorist training camps all over the United States. That's his job is watching over those. And

so that's the hat of the heart. Right now we're seeing the g hut of the mouth with all the protests, which means we're going to have a terrorist attack. This is exactly what happened at nine to eleven. Well, I mean, and don't you believe that the poorous open border where we don't know who's been coming into the country through our southern border for three years now, just unvetted and full scale like we've never seen before as far as the

invasion goes, the evasion aspect aspect. Don't you believe that this is another sign that this kind of terrorist attack is about to happen in this country? I mean, how much Hamas has come in through the southern border. How many Islamis who want to do us US harm have coming through the southern border. They say over one hundred nations have come through, many from Iran,

from Afghanistan. But I just read an article this morning that in the last two days more Chinese military age men have come in than in all of the last three years. Yeah, in the last two days, in the last two days, yeah, we were already at like twenty five twenty eight thousand to this point. Crazy, So yeah, it's not crazy. And they want to take down our electric grid and things like that. They don't need a trojan horse to sneak in. Our government's inviting them in and paying them

and taking care of their medical needs and housing them and feeding them. It's just totally insane. We are going to see terrorist attacks on our soil this year, all right, So you predicted when you wrote the book America at War twenty twenty four to twenty twenty six, six months ago, you predicted accurately the attack by Iran in the month of April, which we saw the drone attacks and the missile attacks on Israel directly from Iran and their proxies.

So we saw that you predicted that what else can we look for in the next few months according to what you have seen in your vision and what you wrote about in the new book mark, I believe there's a real good chance. And again I always tokenly say we're nonprofit ministry. I don't claim to be prophesied like you can. A forecaster would forecast the hurricane five coming in okay Man that being a two. But I see this coming just from the

Bible, from bath from science, studying patterns. I believe the Isaiah seventeen war where Damascus is going to be destroyed, could be fulfilled more than likely this year, if not this year next year. The same thing with the Psalm eighty three war. But I see total during the elections right now. Even the Counselor for Relations wrote an article about how we could have mass chaos around our elections but not only that, not just between the right and left.

I think we're going to see more problems between the pro Israel pro Palestinians this year on our soil, and then we're going to see more problems between the anti immigrants and the immigrants. We are so fractured on so many levels. And what's amazing is how you can tell this is more satanic than anything, because why would so many of the lesbian gay people stick with Islam in hating Israel. When would they know that Islamists will kill all the homosexuals but

they side with them on the situation with Israel. This just shows you that it's total just ignorant and bias against the God of Israel. Oh yeah, you know what, You're flying the Palestinian flag, whatever that is, and just keep in mind that your pride flag would not fly in Iran or any Islamis country. They threw gay and lesbian people off roofs, they put them to death. Right you want to talk about don't ask, don't tell, Well, you better not tell if you're an Islamis nation, and yet you're

supporting this push of anti Semitism and the pro Islam message. It's crazy, It's crazy. Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. And what people need to understand. The Hebrew word for Hamas is violence. That's exactly what it is, and that's why God destroyed the world with the flood. And Amelek. We know what Hamas did to the Israelis on October seventh. Ammelek in Hebrew means a people group who chops up bodies. That's what it means. Amelek for

no reason attacked Israel when they came out of Egypt. They weren't attacking them for land. They didn't have any, you know, and so or possessions. Really, so we see it's just a demonic attack. And that's where we're coming right too. Right now, this is I believe. Now I'm saying I believe. I'm not prophesying, but I think there's a good chance of tribulation could start uh in about five years, okay, So so yeah, everybody who's predicted to the end of the world so far has been wrong,

Mark, so we'll go with that. I know, I know you're not you're not predicted. You're not predicted another thousand years. Well, yeah, because when when this is all done, when the tribulations are done, Jesus comes back in rules for a thousand years, right exactly, So I don't preach the end of the world. All right, Well, listen, it's it's good to talk to you. Interesting stuff, especially in light of everything that is going on, and it's clear that we are reaching some kind

of tipping point. Pastor Mark Bilts from Elshudi Ministries in Washington State. You can how can people find out more? Mark? Yeah, well they can go to a website EESM dot us. They can get my book on Amazon dot com as well. All right, It's America at War twenty twenty four to twenty twenty six by Pastor Mark Builts our guests this morning. Back in just a moment when you're feeling overwhelmed and tired, I'm here. It's like my favorite slippers, warm and comfy, and you may be feeling beaten,

like a birthday pinont. Willy always makes me feel better. But my friend Willy is here to heal. I'd like to make him a thank you sandwich. Raise your head, open your ears like a blt or tune on rye, and hear my mighty words of hope. Brick Cunningham Today at twelve noon on seven hundred W L W. Marty brought them in here for Trash State. Menzelle, the leader in Last Why, yelled to me and that was the first time many people heard Billy J. Kramer and the Dakota's nineteen sixty

three was it? Yeah, And he is back and he's still here. He's still doing what he loves to do. And I think that's so cool because I'm getting to do what I love to do, which is interview people like Billy J. Kramer, Gary Jeff Walker as we continue here on seven hundred WLW. And I've looked forward to this. When our friend Jeff Perholtz, who's been working with you on your new album Billy, mentioned that you were going to be in town and we had a chance to do this,

I was just like blown over. Billy Kramer. Really, I get to interview Billy Kramer. Very very cool. This was the early stage of what became the British invasion. You were obviously way bigger in the UK than you were in the US, but you had hits here too, and you had the benefit of some pretty pretty prolific songwriters. We'll get into that in a moment, but how are you. I'm very well, thank you I'm nice

to be here. Yeah, what brings you to America this time? Well, I've lived in America for many years now, Okay, you know I lived in America for like thirty six thirty seven years, all right, So what brings you to town? Then? I came to town to work with Jeff Perholtz her Holts, my friend Jeff her Holes. That's what I came to town for. So how did you get hooked up with Jeff? I was doing a cruise last year, about a year ago, and they they'd

linked me. It's all right. They tied me up with Jeff, and I came to Cincinnati and rehearsed for the cruise with Jeff a studio, and then we did a cruise together. And I was going to Abby Road to to celebrate sixty years in show business on my atheist birthday, and I I have some fire with Jeff and his wife, Missy, and I invited them

to a couple of long sibyll They're wonderful people. I've known him for about twenty five years and actually hadn't seen him for about twenty years until we met in a parking lot and for the first time in twenty years and he just mentioned working with you, and I said, really, Billy J. Kramer, that's so cool. And I said, well, is there any chance since he's going to be in town we could get together. And here we are. So it's coming on sixty years since you first appeared on the Ed

Sullivan Show. Sixty years June seventh, June seventh, the year of the Great British Invasion. Yes, June seventh was when I was on The Sullivan Show. And it's come by very quickly. What do you remember about that night? Specifically? I was very nervous. I remember, you know, funny enough, it's it's a bit scary to think that, you know, you know, you stand there in front of a camera and realize that there's going to be seventy million people looking. It's a bit of a scary thought.

So I'll be honest with you. I I did the rehearsal Joe on the day and then I went back to the hotel and I timed it that I just went back and just about time to walk on and do it. So you were managed by Brian Emstein as I was who managed the Beatles out. He's saying many other acts right at that period in popular music in Great Britain and how did that happen? How did you get together with Brian? And it came about where there was a local paper, Mersey Beat, that

all the young kids used to buy. You know, I was very very popular music paper and there was a popularity poll and it was you know, at the time, I think it's about four hundred bands around Liverpool and I came second in the popularity pool to the Beatles, and that's not a bad runner up. I was during second with a guy called Lee Kurs and the All Stars, and then you know, I was doing shows with the Beatles. I was opening for the Beatles as if it's certain shows. And then

when I came second, there was like they had this show. It's like a big showcase and we all got got a price. And I remember Brian there because he he'd he'd given a tour of Scotland for the highest place non professional and I declined it because I was I was at the time. I was I was training to be an engineer. Right, you were a railroad engineer, right, you know, No, I was. You know, people when you say I was an engineer on the railroad, people think that

you drove trains. I didn't drive trains. I took them to pieces and maintained and put them back together. Okay, that was the kind of work I was doing. I was, you know, I was actually about to leave Liverpool and go to a place, go Crew for a year, which to me, i'd been there doing gigs and I didn't fancy the idea of going there for a year. But I was. I was about to pack up the music business altogether, because part of the train was you went to

Crew for a year to rolls Royce. And I was about I told the guys in the band was I was going to pack it all in. And then Brian came about about a month before I was going to go. Brian came along and offered me offers and management. Well, tell me about obviously through your association with Brian Epstein, how how met the Beatles. Yeah, Well, and the fact that they gave you songs. They were so prolific at writing songs. They had a lot of songs that they never recorded and

they kind of threw you those bits and you turn them into hits. That that's wonderful. That tell me. Tell me about John and Paul and what it was like to work with them or to you know, open for them. What was that so open for them? You know, it's it's more when I look back now, it's more of a big deal to me now than what it was then. I think, you know, it was like when you share dressing rooms with people and people share your hairbrush and stuff like

that. You don't you know, to me, it was you know, I mean I never thought anything about it, you know, Paul McCarney, like what I did that Christmas show. I remember, we used to do this like pancake makeup, just to slup. We used to call it slap and they go, well, can I go, where's your slap? Believe I kind of buy you a hairbrush? And you know it's like I never looked at it. You know. The funny thing is I never eat all the times of the Big many songs. I never even asked for an autograph,

right, No, I just don't think. Well, if you'd have known what we all know now, I probably would have saved some of Paul's hair from my hair brush. Yeah, you know what I mean, you know, but I never thought about it. Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, people say to me, like when I did like set Lennon McCartney songs and the lyrics of that that they've written out by hands. I never I just like roll them up in the ball and throw No

Bay's paper bit. I never nobody thought it was going. I don't know, I never thought about it. So tell me about this new work that you're doing now. You you've continued to record and obviously play all these years. Yes, and you and I were talking about what a what a blast it is to do what you've always wanted to do in life. Yes, you know, I was seven years old and I wanted to be on the radio, and from nineteen until now, you know, I've been blessed enough

to be able to do that. And you've been in music now for this sixty year period. Well, I mean I feel very blessed. And you know, like I send to you earlier, I've never considered this to be a job. You know, we don't get a gold watch after so many years. It's something It's like I remember my sister, you know, she's older than me, she's ninety four, and she said to me, like why do you do all this? You know, you know, why how come you know you make these records? And you do this and you do

that, And I've said it's because it's what I do. I've told people for years, Billy that my retirement plan is death. You know what do people ask you? Are you going to hang it up? You know? I mean, I'll be honest with her. We've put a tremendous amount of work into this album, you know, and I'm delighted with it. I said to Jeff yesterday, what are we going to do next? That's right, you're thinking about the next project. He said to me, Let's get

this one out of the work first. But that's the way I yeah, all right, exactly, you know. I mean it's like, you know, I'm azy, and people go, you know, why you're still doing this just because it's what I do. Well, look pretty damn good for Adie, I'll tell you that, Billy. Thank you probably better than I look at sixty three. Well, you know, do you attribute that to clean living? Yues? I mean, I'll be honest with you. I

mean I wasn't always clean living. I used to drink. I used to drink and smoke and stay out late and all those things, oh the stuff. But I quit all lots of fools of years ago. Really, I quit all lots of forty years ago. Yes, well that's a tribute to you and also a testament to what that kind of life can give you, this longevity. There's a lot of different pretty famous people playing on this album too. You want to talk about some of the sidemen that you've got working

with you, Well, there's Steve Hawley. Yeah, you know, it was a great trummer. It was with Paul Lawrence Jupa playing guitar. Alan Thompson it's a bass player with Jess Hotel. Wow. You know I met Ian Anderson once? Yeah? Have you ever met Ian? No? I

met Ian he was doing something. He was in town, doing something across the country called the Rubbing Elbows Tour And it was so neat because we were on a stage at music Hall and there was a big couch in front of the band on stage, and Ian had some local musicians who were playing the songs with him, and he'd do a song and then we we'd sit and do an interview in front of the audience about the next song and talk about

then, and then he'd get up and perform again. It was a very cool experience, you know, it's that is a I do similar thing. Now, do you where I do this? Acoustic songs and stories, and I have somebody like a DJ interviewed me and asked me questions about different songs how I acquired them. Keep me in mind the next time you're in Cincinnati, Billy, I will you know songs that I acquired, how I recorded them, and hey, stories about them, and I talk about that and

then I sing the songs. Yeah. So were you ever married? I've been married twice. Yeah, yeah, I was married. I always say, but all insightles, so make one mistake. Yeah, you know I didn't get I'll be very honest with you. I didn't get it right the first time. Neither did I the second. My second marriage was tremendous. I was married to a girl from Long Island, New York, Ronnie. We were married for over thirty years. Unfortunately she passed away. I'm sorry

to hear that. Uh. So you say you've been in the United States now for thirty six years living here. Yes, what prompted you to move from me? Huh? I met you met her? I met her. I was I was over doing it to all in the United States and I met Ronnie. Aren't the girls wonderful on tour. Billy. No, it's strange because you know, I think we had an argument the first time I met she was to get it out of the way. She was into like

photography. That's how I met her. She'd come to take some. So that's another thing you had in common with Paul Linda, Right, So I did you keep touch with the boys and the initial I'll be honest with that. In the early days I told with the Beatles a lot, and then you know, I'll be honest with her. I got to a point where, you know, I didn't want to hang on to the hotels. You

know. I used to stay at this place in Russell Square in London, the President Hotel, and I used to see Neil Aspinall and male Evans. Then they go, you come to polls to night and Saint Johnson Wood and I was calling, No, I'm taking some chick out, some dancer, you know, good for you. And I'll be honest with I sort of like backdazz. I think you know I also have a life, sure you

know, oh absolutely, And that's that's what I mean. From time to time over the years, I've seen the Beatles, you know, the last time Paul came to Long Island. I got together with him, but I'm not going to call him up every day of the week. And that's confirmed. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't think that he's driven crazy. You know, I'll be honest with you. He's probably crazy counting as mine, you know, I

was. I was with a lady friend at Christmas time. We were going through some big department store and I said, you know, Paul can't do this. Yeah, you're right. I thought, you know, I wouldn't want that. I like going places, I like going stores, and I like, you know, I like being in show business. I like performing, I like making music. But would you like to be somewhat anonymous when you're rist to me, I'm like, I always say that Billy J.

Crame is someone that I take out of a suit bag. So you've got a new single coming from this new album. What is the title of this? Well, we have a single after the Moment we Are You with Me, But there's a new one coming. There's a new one coming which is written by Mark Husson. Oh I couldn't have done it without you. Well again, the benefit of a pretty darn good songwriter. You know, he's a heck of a songwriter. I've done a lot of shows with Mark.

I'm funny enough. When we were like compiling what songs we're going to do Abby Road, I'd spoken to Mark about a year before. We we had talked about ideas and then I sort of like made the list of ten songs. I thought it would be good to do. And then a week or two before he called me up and he says, you know this song we were talking about by I said yeah, He said, well, I finished it, I'll send it to you and it was so flipping good. I thought, you know, what can I take out? And puts this one

in? So the album though, is debuting, correct? When does that happen? It's going to come out at the end of May. We can in view all right, and the title of the album is are you with Me? Well we are today and it's been a joy. Thank you. It's been an absolute joy. So you're gonna do videos and everything for the song? Yeah? We We did a great video one. Jeff and I went to Liverpool after we did the Abby Road thing going and Jeff Conny did

a great video which is a lot of fun. Is there something about is there still something about the mystique about Abbey Road Recording? There is there something to that, you know, is it just a studio or is it something else? There is something special about it. But you know, I'll be honest with you. I have we had this wonderful party and my best day and everything there. But you know, it's like there was so much going on. The only thing is I'll be honest with that. Somebody came up

to me and for us, what does it feel like? And I looked across them and remembered exactly where John Lennon was when sat at the piano and played Bad to Me and I call your name, and where Paul played from a window. And I'll keep you satisfied, you know. Yeah, it is a bit like a bit melancholy, you know. Well, I love

I love even the old stuff. I mean, we started with the Bad to Me, which was your first big one, and Little Children is a fantastic song too, And I'm looking forward to hearing the album Are You with Me by Billy J. Kramer comes out end of May, first of June, and we'll keep you posted, thank you very much. Anything else, anything else, No, it's just been a pleasure. It's been great to be here in Cincinnati. It's being wonderful to have met Jeff and Missy and

do this album. They're very very special people. Oh they're great people. And on top of that, they're phenomenal musicians. See absolutely phenomenal, and I just feel blessed to meet such people. At this time. You need custom exterior or into seven hunderd WLW and joining us for our last segment as we wrap things up. The guy that used to be the host of sports talk on the Big One, and these days he does his talking on Fox

Sports Radio. Fox Sports thirteen sixty is a Sunday morning show that if you're in the parking lot of the transmitter you can get. You can also get aired on Serious XM and you can get it right now while it's hot. The fur Ball, Andy Furman, how are you doing? You don unbelievable. I could have done the flying pig during that break, you know that really see you're killing me, killing me hey, talk to the sales to break. Thank you for leading me up to feature me at the end.

Everybody was my undercar today. But I got a lot to get up my chest. As you know, I'm so appreciative you put me on the air. Right now, I'll tell you you know, Andy, Andy, I thought you shaved your chest. No, really, how you don't get that close to me? Really, please don't be looking. No one wants to know those facts. Really, I want to move on. I want to talk about football. But listen, everybody talks about it is the sports.

There's only sport that moves the needle on talk radio, be it college football or NFL, so that people talk football. But I want to go back to the NFL draft. I want to talk about not particular players that were drafted, but exactly what happened at the draft. Now, I'll talk about the commissioner, Roger Goodell. Roger Goodell has put these end zone messages in their end racism, right. I mean, it's a beautiful thing. I

hope it happens. I'd love to see it happen. Okay, but if you recall, and I think I read this in the New York Post that prior to the opening of the NFL Draft they had two national anthems. The unofficial Black national anthem. I don't know what that is. Well, it was a pretty song with no nationalistic patriotic concept, but a beautiful song. And then of course the regular it's not no lift every voice and sing or whatever it's called, is no one's national anthem. They made that up.

That's Rodica del said, the national anthem, the black national anthem. Yeah right, so we were back. We're back to segregation again. Go ahead, exactly. And you could not conclude that rogicdl supports racial segregations because he did that now here. Here's the thing, this is what I want to know. Should white people Should white people stand for the Black national anthem or what they be called racist if they don't, And if you're a protester,

what need do whites take and what need do blacks take? I just want to know these because I ask you or Roger Goodell is somebody what is happening? What's going on? The world has gone nuts. I think he's gone crazy. Rochicadell's part of it, somebody else, because I'm not generally unless I'm there and the flag is in front of me, then I'll stand for the national anthem, which is about America, and America is about the United

States of America, not the divided States of America. And if you're going to divide it along racial lines, and I'm not standing for any of that nonsense. And it has nothing to do with racism. Andy, look, don't talk to me. Don't preach to me. As Roger Well, you asked, you asked, what need do you take? And I'm not going to take any knees because I'm not wearing dads. Let me give you another question, if I may party, would it be disrespectful that for white people

not to stand for the black version of the national anthem? Help me, help me on this. I'm afraid to go to a football game now knowing what to do. I don't know what to do. Well, I don't know. I mean I might, I might stand, uh to go get something from the concession stand while it's playing. I mean, I don't know. Andy, Look, you're asking the wrong person. I really don't know. It's not just I don't know. And I think you bring out some

good questions. But again, the national anthem, the Star Spangled banner is in honor of the flag that is a symbol of the United States of America. Is there a flag breaking away from tyranny from the British rule? Well, and again united is in the name United States of America. We may be very divided, and I'm not going to stand for anything that may divide people even more than they already are. I guess that's my point. And

is there a flag that flies during lift every voice and sing? Well, you know, honestly, maybe at the next football game they play the Israelian national anthem? I don't know. You know what I got, by the way, Hold on a second. A couple of Saturdays ago, you called into the Saturday Morning Show and asked if because I had mentioned that I was tired of this nonsense and I was going to get an Israeli flag to put alongside my American flag at my home there in South Kate, Kentucky. And

you said, get you on too if I do. And I offered to do that, and you said, no, no, I don't want to do that, or what are you? You have no room? But I gotta. I have a Ukrainian flag out there with the USA, so you'll have a Ukrainian but you're you're Jewish and you won't have an Israeli flag. You're afraid, you're afraid. I don't want to instigate anybody, you know, I know in my heart of hearts, what I what I root for, and who I I've loved for. I love everybody and every people take

us. But that's like putting a red flag in front of a bull. That's what you're doing when you do that. All right? And is your flag up? Now? Is it up? Yes? Do you? I mean, do you have to? Do you have tons of Let me ask you. Do you have a little betting over and on how long it stays up there? That's been up there for the whole weekend? It came. It came like Friday. Okay, okay, well fin Friday. I do you have tons of Do you do you have tons of pro Hamas protesters in

Florence where you live? Andy, I don't know. I don't ask and I don't care. I live and let live. That's what I do so far, So far, Organ Soros hasn't paid anybody to come to Southgate and protest in front of my house, or nothing happens, I'm taking the over under. By Saturday, that flag will be gone, right, it'll be ripped up over a Nazi swasta gone there. Okay, hope not. I

pray not, but you know that's basically the course of action. But let's talk to something, talk about something a little more life arting and it's close to your heart, which is the state of Iowa. State of Iowa.

Let's talk about your girl, Caitlin Clark and in the preseason of the w n B A and then I'm glad you brought that because for all her stats, for all the records, what she has done, uplifting women's sports and uplifting you know, the w NBA, for everything that she has done, her legacy will be remembered, not so much for basketball on the court, It'll be remembered for what she will be doing. For the travel aspect of the w NBA. They don't travel on charter planes. They travel commercial.

That's what they do. And in Dallas on Friday night, prior to the game, there's a preseason game in Dallas. She was at the Dallas Airport. Thank goodness, she has a security person. She was a near riot trying to get a picture, putting phones in her face for pictures and things like that. It was disgusting. And they're flying commercial. I don't think any professional teacher five commercials. Is specifically the fact that she flied charter when

she was at the University of Iowa. So I got to believe down the road that's her legacy. The WNBA will eventually fly charter thanks to Caitlin. Do you think that's going to be the legacy of Caitlin and the WNBA is that they fly charter? Now do the Fever could fly charter? Maybe? I don't know about the mystic ruling in the WNBA teams cannot fly charter and the ownership of the New York Liberty in Brooklyn at one point in time a year ago. So we're gonna fly charter and the league said, no,

you can't because it's an advantage because no other team can nor will. And then I'm permitted to that. Probably don't have the money to do so much. I mean, that's that's a big issue. That's a big issue, is that the w NBA, for all of you know, our equality and for all that you know, we we think that women should be in the same par with men in professional basketball. It simply ain't. So just like even the National Women's Soccer League is not going to generate what the the US

women's team did as far as interest and ratings and dollars. Uh, there's just the l the UFL. They should have called they should they should have called the UFL. The WTF. What the football that? This is all this This league only exists for the gamblers. That's the only reason you would

have a Springs Football League. There is no interest in the UFL, just like there has been very little interest in the w n b A compared to the NBA until now with Kaylin Clark right, it's a developmental league, the UFO for players that hopefully will get that chance to one day play in the NFL. That's basically what is a developmentally But I'm glaid it. The comparison aspets up there because there was an article in The National last week comparing and

hold your breath on this, Caitlin Clarke to Larry Bird. It was bad enough. It was bad enough that compared her statistics to Pete Marraviage, which is so ridiculous because ay, when Pete played there was no three point goals. But number two you made a great point just now. They don't compare the MLS stats to the Women's National Soccer League. They don't compare the National Hockey League stats to the Women's National Hockey League, which there is one.

They don't compare crossover stats men and women's stats in least, why are they comparing stats from men's college basketball to women's college Well, I mean Andy no me. When there was an article comparing her to Larry Bird. It wasn't about stats matching stats, I hope, but style. I said this watching Caitlin at the end of the season and then threw out the NCAA Women's Tournament. I said, she plays like Larry Bird because she has that total.

I said that in that matter, either they comparing in the fact that she has elevated the league like when Magic Johnson and Larry Bird came. Look, when they first started in the league, the NBA's games were not even on live TV. They're on CBS at eleven o'clock on tape. So they created the image. They created the forefront of what the league is right now because the league was a bit shape back then. But her style of her style of play, the outside shooting, touch and the full court vision, which

is exactly what Larry Bird had. He could. He was a great passer. You know, you think about Larry Bird scoring and he could. But he was an incredible team player and an incredible passer. From anywhere on the court. And that's what Caitlin Clark demonstrated to me. And I made the comparison myself the first time I really watched your player. Said, God, she plays the game. She's like a female Larry Bird more than pistol p

She's a tremendous player. I mean, what she has done to the game is she's did it to me. Because look, I don't go to many, if any, NKU Xavier or UC women's basketball games. However, I got in my car and I drove to Bloomington, Indiana when Indiana played Iowa this year to see her play. And I did, and I met the coach and I went to the postgame news conference, and it was a wonderful experience. I really did. She's a wonderful young lady and a great player.

And she's a benefit of the game of basketball, be at men or women. She's just a great player. Well, you don't get it. You don't get out in the public much because you're afraid of being mob because people know who you are, and and you're I went to Bloomington, they

don't know me and Bloomy, Yeah, you're a timid. You're a timid little rabbit though generally, and you're afraid because you know that there'll be a throng of people within a couple of minutes, and knowing that Andy Furman is in the house, and they'll be tearing at your clothes, They'll be asking for autographs and pictures, and it'll be total bedlam. I speaking about that, and leave my phone number to management over there, because obviously they need

some fill ins if from time to time. I'm ready, I'm ready, willing and able. I see, I'm fighting for fill ins every day. So why am I gonna suggest someone that might take some time away from me. I need, I need the guidtis, I need the cabbage Andy. I got to have the extra work. I mean today today is probably I don't. I can tell him I don't. So this way they'll take me over you. Today's probably gonna pay my grocery bill for a day or two. To me, no one cares. No one really cares. No.

I know you care because you care deeply about everyone that you know. I do have a heart. People don't think I do it, but I do. You know, let me run this by s think about money. You know, when the Pittsburgh Steelers come to town. What are the season ticket holders of this entire Bengals do? They sell the tickets to those crazy people that come here from Pittsburgh. They get big money and that money usually pays for their season tickets for the next season because it's all about the cash.

Yeah, sure, not a big deal. Let me tell you what happened Game six. The New York Picks are playing the seventy six ers in Philadelphia. The ownership the ownership of the Philadelphia seventy six is brought out about two thousand tickets, So New York nick fans couldn't come down for New York to make the arena in Philadelphia Madison Square Gardens South. That was a bush move, bush move that says they went public with it. Don't go public with it. When I read that, I should How low can you be?

And then it's still be speaking of going public with things you shouldn't go public with. What do you think about, uh? South Dakota Governor Christy Noman her book going public with the fact that she killed a dog because it wasn't behaving right? How stupid is that? And what does she do? Why shouldn't you bring it to some ASPCA? How stupid? Is that are people? You know what? The problem with social media it makes you in your mind you think you're a star. People love to get on there and tell

their story. Well, this is a book. This is a book she wrote. She chose, she chose to tell this story in a book. What does she trying to prove that she's a she's a humanitarian by that? I don't know what is she proving that she's an idiot? Well, you know what, in other countries they eat dogs, Andy, So it's just this country and our personification of animals. Uh, it's it's just we're crazy with our animals. Do you have animals, Andy, Well, I've had.

I've had four pugs and my last one passed a year ago. It's a terrible situation when they go, and I told my wife I don't want to do it again. I just I can't. I love them, I love being with them. They're great pets and they're just comforting. They really are, and they're part of the family. But when they go, it's the worst. It's like a relative, it's like a family member. So I'm not doing it again. I may get goldfish, they get some fish.

They will do that. This way when they die and just flush them down the toilet. You're the You're the Christy Gnome of aquariums. That's what you are. Hey, listen, fur Ball, it's always good to talk to you. You always have some really really weird takes, and I like that really. Today it's the the black national anthem versus the national anthem. I don't think it's so weird. And I don't know in which need If you're going to take a knee during either one, which need do you take

depending on well, okay, right, twenty seconds. It's such a weird, weirdo story. But I don't know why the mainstream media has not touched on that because they were all covering the NFL Draft. That's all I'll say. I'll leave it at that, all right. And you think the NFL Draft should be in Cincinnati very soon? Yes, yes, it will be great. I'd love it, all right, fantastic. The only problem is that that means we've got to welcome in Roger Goodell. We've got to take

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