Fifth, twenty twenty four, Garry Jeff walking with you on seven hundred WLW and joining us once again from The Washington Times. Cheryl Chumley. She's a Christian, she's a conservative. She's a writer, she's an author, she's a speaker, and she's very outspoken, especially with the things that she knows in her spirit, in her soul are true. And she does not waiver. Cheryl Chumley, Welcome to the show. How are you doing on this
Super Tuesday? If that is still a thing Super Tuesday? I'm doing super Thank you for having me right Well, the only thing that's super about it is I've got you back for a few minutes tonight. I don't think there's anything really especially super about this particular Super Tuesday. In the election title, it's pretty much predetermined what was going to go on. We won't talk about results because we don't know all of them yet. But is this the you
think this is the final straw for Nicki Hayley? Yeah, I mean, really, that's the only question of intrigue out there right other than that question suddenly that matter. It's it's sort of a boring Super Tuesday. We already know what's going to happen. Trump is going to be the candidate of choice, and so is Joe Biden. So the big question is when does Nikki Hily drop out? And I think it's going to have to come if she doesn't have a strong showing today, which you know by all indicators she will
not, that she's going to have to drop out this week. Right. I thought that the writing was definitely on the wall, probably before this, but when the Koch brothers pulled their money, you kind of knew that the well was drying up as far as being able to continue the campaign for the former UN secretary and the governor of South South Carolina. But anyway, second question, what exactly is Donald Trump needing immunity from What crime did he actually
commit? Because I haven't been able to figure that out yet. They say trying to overturn the twenty twenty election. All he did was actually was asking for a redress of grievances with the government in an election that he felt was
unfair and there was massive voter fraud and cheating. In the other side says there's no evidence of any fraud, And I just wonder, what evidence do you need outside of the stopping of the counting of ballots on election night when it's obviously Donald Trump's night, and then closing down all of these counting places
in Georgia and Pennsylvania happened and other states. On election night, Donald Trump was ahead, and just as my late friend loell Ponte predicted back in May of twenty twenty, he said, well, I believe Gary, Jeff, what's going to happen is Donald Trump will be well ahead on election night and then they will find these ballots. And he was dead on correct. Did you have that kind of Did you have that kind of prognostication too in twenty
twenty with everything else that was going on, Cheryl? In twenty twenty, No, I went to bed at like three in the morning thinking how Trump has won this handily? Woke up to find out that, my goodness, he hasn't. What happened? And then that's when you start hearing all the news about, you know, certain polling places stopped counting, which is unheard of. And that's when it slowly trickled out about all these mail in ballots and being founded right And are you there, Cheryl? You've gone away on
me, Cheryl? Are you there? I can't hear you, So I tell you what. We're going to take a break real quick and come back with more from Cheryl Chumley on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW Are you there, Cheryl? Yes? Can you hear me? I can't. I can now. I missed everything that you said. After lo and behold they found all these extra ballots, and all of a sudden your audio went away.
But that's okay, we're here, so I would dress. I was stressing the question you asked about Trump and immunity, And it's an interesting question you asked because in this nation, you are supposed to be, as a citizen, presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law by a jury of
your peers, and none of that has come Trump's way. So we're sort of in this situation where law and order has been flipped on its head and Trump is deemed guilty simply because he's a strong conservative America First MAGA type and the Democrats hate that. Well, he's also a threat to the machine inside the Beltway that goes belong well beyond party lines. It's you know, it's the bureaucracy of Washington, d C. What Donald Trump called the swamp and
he was at certain points draining that swamp just like he. You know, it was amazing. Everything that Donald Trump. Almost everything that Donald Trump promised on the campaign trail, he tried his damnedest to pull off in the twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one term. You know, COVID was the hiccup in there, and I you know, I don't know who would have handled that right, but you know what I mean, and these other candidates. I
was having a discussion with somebody else yesterday about this. Obama promised to be the great racial healer and he was exactly the opposite of that. Joe Biden planned to be the adult in the room. We didn't know how old an adult we were getting, but had some hints anyway before the election and to unite the country, and he has done nothing but the divide. It's like Obama part two. Donald Trump, I believe, consistently tried to fulfill all
of his campaign promises. And that's that's quite rare in today's American electorate. It is, and that's why the left hates him. That's why the globalists especially can't stand him, because he didn't just use America first, as a talking point for his campaign as a bumper sticker. He used that as sort of the guiding compass for all that he did during his four years in the
White House. And he did it even though he was constantly under attack, not just by the Democrats and not just by the media, which are expected, but by members of his own party. If you go back in time, remember when Donald Trump first took over the White House. He had majorities in both House and Senate in the Republican Party, and they fought him almost as much as Democrats did, which is why he turned to his executive order
use so frequently. But you know, the fact that Donald Trump upheld his campaign promises is one of the unforgivable sins in politics, no matter what party you're with. Yeah, because it makes everybody else look you look like pikers, look like hacks. You know. It's when you do a good job. And as Donald Trump has said in this election cycle, my revenge will be success, and that will be sweet revenge if we get a chance to look at that come November or next January. But yet, go ahead,
Donald Trump is sailing into the White House. Really bar some horrific acts of cheating, which I don't put beyond the realm of Democrat strategy. He will be the next president of the United States. How are they going to try and cheat this time? There have been some stopgap measures put in place since twenty twenty, but I don't think nearly enough. We've still got dead voters on the rolls and stayed after state after state, Sheryl, and you know,
those people could turn up and vote again. Yeah, ah ah. It's it's the uh, the non sacred resurrection of voters that come to save the Democrats again. I just don't know how they're going to try it, but they are going to try, There's no question about it. And as other people have said, you have to somehow get enough votes that they can't
cheat that much. I mean, that has to be the strategy. And I don't know if it's early voting by conservative voters, or more mail in ballots by conservative voters, or ballot harvesting where it's allowed, which I've never
I've never gotten. It was interesting to see how who was it? Merrick Garland in a press conference yesterday or over the weekend, was talking about the all of the obstacles that people had in voting, you know, and people want to take away mail in bouting ballots, and they want to force voter ID and like the people he's talking to don't have the wherewithal to get a voter ID an a driver's license or something that is accepted in that state.
That is such a condescending, insulting thing to insist that a certain group of population does not have the smarts or the wherewithal to obtain a voter ID,
which in many states are free. Well, it is condescending. But it's not about getting these people to the ballot boxes to vote, right, It's about it's about creating a chaotic system in part that starts by moving removing the idea of election day and instead making an election week, election month, election months right where it starts with balance that trickle in by mail here and there, and then after election day it takes forever to count those mail in ballots
and then the contest in court starts. So it's all about creating a system of breaking down America's election process so that Democrats ultimately can just control the process. As a Christian and as a conservative, you know, I know you are, and I have my Christian faith, and I am a conservative talk show host. I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong because they haven't come to prosecute
me yet. I just I don't know if I should be trying harder or it's a big platform here in the middle of the Middle West, you know, fifty thousand watts seven hundred WLW legendary radio station. I guess I'm just not conservative or Christian enough because they haven't come after me yet. Because if they've gone of these other people, it means that any American citizen who breaks from their narrative, who questions their agenda is got a target on their back.
Do you feel like that sometimes? Oh? Absolutely? But you know they're big target right now? Is Donald Trump? Right? Because he's sort
of the face of the Christian conservatives out there in America? And I know not all Christians like Trump, and maybe not even all Conservatives like them either, but he's still the face of the Christian nationalists that the left has been Oh so, you know, desperately trying to turn into a negative label conveniently forgetting or refusing to see that this is exactly what our nation was built upon.
All founding fathers were in essence Christian nationalists to some degree, and so Donald Trump brings that sort of agenda to the forefront, and he doesn't just talk the talk. We saw under four years of him in the White House under great dress, he still managed to walk the walk, and he did things for, you know, our friends in Israel, moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the Abraham Accords, things that if he were only
a Democrat, the mainstream media would still be applauding him for. But because he's a Republican who believes in America first, he's constantly under attack, and so go his followers and base of support. It's just as wrong as when conservatives were being attacked at dinner or wherever they were. But AOC and other Democrats being attacked because of the Biden policy on support of Israel now and they're
getting a taste of their own medicine. When they said, well, it's good if you're uncomfortable, it's good if you're being pointed out as someone who doesn't hold our values. And it's just kind of interesting. It's not any better. They shouldn't be, but it's interesting to see the shoe on the
other foot, so to speak, isn't it. Yeah, these socialists and Marxists create this universe where they call out political opponents as enemies and then call for their own base support to go and track down these so called political enemies at their homes, at their places of work, at eating establishments and protests and unleash the whirlwind winds and all that in summers of resistance. And that's fine because in their minds that means justifies their end, which is to completely
stifle conservative viewpoint. But when someone like AOC right gets approached by a pro hamas nut following her in a public setting, she can't take it. She finds that, in her words, wrong, that this is not right, this is wrong. And yet at the very same time, it was Alexandria O Caesio Cortes who talked about how protests and protesters are supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. So this is of their own doing, This is of the
democrat's own creation. I don't agree with it, but then again hit for tap yeah, no kidding, no kidding, hold on, uh we anybody do you see anybody by that cabinet? And an ut crazy Maxine Water is just an example of what I was talking about from the left, And uh, you know, now again a little taste of it on the other side for AOC and others who are in Congress. I uh, I don't know where the Supreme Court is going. It was interesting to see that they took
up the immunity case at all. Did you find that that was kind of curious because they could have passed on that very easily. I never know what the Supreme Court is going to do, to be honest, They constantly surprised me in the cases they accept for verus refuse, so I'm not the expert on that. Well. They take they take about one percent of all petitions in front of them. I heard that somewhere, and this one is so
crucial again to possibly Donald Trump being prosecuted before the election. They'll probably they're going to start oral arguments, they said the week of April twenty second on this, which means that they will hand it down at the end of their term, probably mid to late June, and then Jack Smith can go on, you know, with his his phantom prosecution for something that should never have been a crime. And if it wasn't Donald Trump and he wasn't running for
president, it wouldn't have been a crime. I predict Cheryl Chumley reader into Washington Times, and thank you so much for our time tonight. Oh, thank you, God, bless, God, bless. Always great to have Cheryl on the show. We'll take a break and come back. Dave Hatter on the other side on seven hundred WLW. It's time to get a headstart on spring cleaning, get rid of all the dart and grime this winter. Contributing tonight and so glad and please to have mister Dave Hatter with us.
In the Internet of Things world, it was kind of wacky earlier with Meta and some Instagram and some I don't know, the stuff going down and not being available for their users. They're millions of users, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Dave Hatter, how are you tonight, Gary, Jeff, I'm glad to be here and I'm good. How are you all right?
So do they have any answers to attribute what happened here? So right before we got on the phone here, I took a look at what Facebook was saying and it looks like per their site metastatus, which is kind of their own version of a site like down detector that kind of shows you what's
going on. With various popular services, and everything says recover disruptions. Currently, my understanding from the press I've seen is they haven't given any indication as to what happened yet, and apparently the outspread the good Lord, the outage was very widespread. I can't seem to contagate. Yeah, sorry, but it looks like they're recovering from it. You know, usually when you see these kinds of things, it's some kind of misconfered configuration, like we saw
with the AT and T thing. Somebody changes a router or updates some software or something. So it'll be really interesting though, to see where this goes. If I had the gas based on what we've seen so far, I would say it's probably something network related, routers, switches, that kind of thing, only because it bled across multiple meta platforms, you know, Instagram, Facebook, you know, if it were just Facebook related, for example, I would think, you know, maybe more software related. So it'll
be interesting to see what they have to say. There doesn't seem to be any indication of a cyber attack at this point, but you know, usually it's not uncommon to not find out that there was some sort of attack until later, so it definitely bears watching. But I think it makes an important point that as our society, society becomes increasingly digital and we increasingly rely on these platforms for things. Because keep in mind, some people aren't just using
Facebook to share photos with their grandma. Some people have set up log in so when they go to log into a different site, it relies on their Facebook log in. And if Facebook is down, guess what, you probably
can't log in. You know, as we get increasingly reliant on all this very fragile digital technology, it creates the potential for substantial issues when things break, and whether it's broken because things just break, or it's some sort of human error, or it's some sort of attack, you know, the net result of the same. So definitely bears watching. Give me a good old
carburetor over a computer on wheels any day, Dan. I'm with you on that, Gary, Jeff, especially in light of these news stories that keep popping up, like did you happen to catch the headline about the undersea cables that were cut? No? I missed that. What happened? So numerous outlets have been reporting on this for the past several days. Here's the headline from Fortune Internet cables cut in the Red Sea end quote exceptionally unquote rare incident
disrupting much of Asia, Europe, in the Middle East. And again there's a bunch of reporting on this out there, but I don't think most people, if you don't really work in the industry and pay any attention to like the networking components that make all of this stuff work, realize how much traffic there is, how much Internet traffic there is going through cables that are buried across the bottom of the sea, and these things, you know, get
cut sometimes by fish and ships dragging an anchor. There's all kinds of speculation around what happened in this case. Is speculation that the Houthies did it. There's speculation, you know, that some enemy agency did it. There's a currently a tanker that's sunk recently in that area after being disabled by the Hoofies and a Hoofi attack, and then they're saying, you know, maybe before it sunk, it caused it by its anchor dragon. I don't think anyone
knows exactly what they do. They're not saying why or what happened. But the more important part of the story in my mind is, and you'll find
all kinds of statistics about this. But here's an article about it that was published originally by Forbes, and they talk about how much Internet traffic is going through these cables, most of which are just kind of laying across the sea, you know, and if you knew where they were and what they were and you wanted to cause a significant of chaos in a society, you know,
you could cut these things. So per this Forbes story, HGC, which is a telecom company that's trying to figure this out, said about twenty five percent of the Internet traffic that was carried by these four cables, which mostly affect Africa, Asia and Europe, has had to be rerouted. And then further down in this article, if you keep reading, they get into some more interesting statistics. So here you go. How important are fiber optic
cables to Internet access? A study published by the Department of Homeland Security and twenty seventeen estimated the wait for it, great, yet ninety seven percent of all intercontinental electronic communication took place using under sea fiber optic cables, which are
routed a deeds the world's oceans. The same study offered a clear example of how how the vital the cables in the Middle East are after three divers attempted to intentionally cut on the table near Alexandria and internet speeds and Egypt fell by about sixty percent. Wow. So it's very important. Now. I thought I thought more of that Internet traffic was going from overhead from satellites. I didn't. Well, and I think it is shifting, especially when you see
products like Starlink coming online. But yeah, there's an enormous amount of stuff going through of these you know, very very exposed in most cases undersea cables. And you know, again whether it's a ship accidentally customed with an anchor or something like that, or in the case of some sort of well designed attack that would potentially knock out substantial amounts of Internet traffic. And it's a
major concern of mind. It gets back to a topic you and I have talked about more and more in the last few years, this idea of critical infrastructure, and the point I keep trying to make to people that you know, we we have got to get to a point where security is built into
things by design. Our whole society revolves around this stuff. Now, whether it's the ability for electricity to make it to your house because it's controlled by computers that rely on the Internet or for you to be able to get money out of the ATM, or just about everything we do. The Internet is
a key component of almost everything now. And if you can knock it out in a substantial way, including you know, whether it's an EMP attack or a if iber attack of some sort, or you just knock out all these undersea cables, it's a huge problem. In a story, I agree in a story that I will relate to my neighbor Judy, who's not into all
this stuff. But yet Judy's a grandma and a great grandma, and her phone could ring and it might be what it might sound like one of her sons or her daughter's, or it might sound like one of her grandchildren,
but it's really not. It's an AI voice clone scam. And the thing is the suggestion to avoid these AI clone scams because, like you said before, Dave Patter, if you have a voicemail message with your voice on it, these people who are doing these scams can clone your voice very easily, very quickly, and it really does sound like especially to a relative, and say you get a call and I'm in jail or I've been arrested by the police, and you need to send money now, or you need to get
this money in a card or whatever right now. You know, sometimes the logic doesn't hit you because that really sounds like your relative's voice, so you want to get them freed from being kidnapped or you know, out of jail, and so you just jump to it without thinking about it, and a
lot of people are scammed this way. Well. Now, there's an idea that was in this article about creating a family password, and it reminds me of a Blue Bloods episode where apparently the entire family had had a code word for years that was taught to them when they were children, and it was when Frank Reagan says, nobody hurts my family. That was their cue to
get down immediately and it resolved a thing. So family password then would be something that you would expect your relative to say to you on the phone to let you know that it's them. Did I get a good grasp on that story? Yeah, I think you really nailed it, Jerry Jeff. I mean to start out with, I know this sounds crazy to people, this voice clothing thing, but I can tell you from firsthand experience from having tested
it. That a what you said about people's voicemails, right, Whether I can go on Facebook, assuming it's up and running, and find a video someone posted that has your voice or your grandson's voice or whoever in it, or I just call your phone and you have a voicemail greeting with your voice
on it. If there's any way for me to get your voice using completely free tools that are readily available on the Internet and can be found with a simple Internet search, you can upload the voice that you've captured somehow into these models, and then with a little training, literally sit at a keyboard and type in whatever you want to say in that person's voice. Again, this
is not me speculating on it. I have actually tested this. I know this is possibility, and it's possible using free tools that are readily available. That's the thing I think that's probably the most far fetched to people. A Google search will turn into don't use Google, use dufduto our start page. But an Internet search will turn up these tools, and in a relatively short period of time, with no cost and no previous experience, you can clone
someone's voice. And then you hit the second part. I know people think why would never be fooled by that. Keep in mind, it's not just the voice cloning piece, where you know you're going to have a copy of someone's voice that sounds very much, if not exactly like that person. It's the they're social engineering you too. Right, you get a call at three o'clock in the morning, there's your distraught daughter or grandson or whomever on the
phone. They claim to be in jail. They've done some terrible thing, they need money to get out on bail, and in many cases there will be multiple scammers. This has also been documented by people like the FBI. You can go find examples of the FBI's warning about exactly what we're talking about here. And you get you know, uh here, I'm going to put you on the phone with Sergeants such and such from the Hamlin County Sharff's office.
And they've used open source intelligence to go to the Hamlin County Shriff's Office website and or LinkedIn and find someone there. Oh, you can look me up. You know this is this is you know, Deputy such and such and this person go here, that's me. You know, these people will social engineer you. They'll tell whatever lies they need you to get to your
money. So they've caught you off guard. They've hit you with something realistic, they've got multiple people involved in the scam to add authenticity to it. And really your only defense at this point is to do exactly what the Electronic Frontier Foundation is recommending in that article you reference, which is to in advance, create some type of family password, passphrase, whatever that only you and
your loved ones would know. So when you when you get that call in the middle of the night and they're trying to catch you off guard, and they're trying to get you in a situation where you're not thinking about how implausible this all is. You know, you say the password, and when they don't know it, well, it may not still be one hundred percent guarantee that it's not your actual loved one, But now you have a strong indicator and you know, then you can go further and start to ask some other
questions that only they would know. I would just remind you you can't really rely on that second part alone because so many people post their entire lives out on Facebook and Instagram and chat and TikTok and whatever that you know, I might know your cast name, I might know the school that you went to, because again, these people will do open source intelligence to find out the
information they need to scan you. And I'd also take it a step further, Gary Jeff and say it would be a good idea in a business for at least the executives and the people who have access to finances and the ability to transfer funds and so forth, to create a similar sort of password so
that because voice cloning scams were on the lines with businesses. I think we talked last week as the story where twenty five million dollars was stolen, a scam that involved a zoom call and a bunch of people who were deep sacked. So knowing having some sort of preapproved secret password that only the people who would be authorized to do these things would know is a really really smart idea and probably out of than just general awareness, your only defense against it.
Dave Patter just about three minutes left and wanted to get to this story real quick. Hackers have discovered another reason not to use Google. Hackers have discovered a way to access Google accounts without a password. So this is probably less of a knock on Google directly than it is an illustration of how smart these
people are. In this particular case, researchers discovered some malware someone created, and you know, let's say I send you a link, can you click that link of phishing email and you download this malware this, you know, malicious software virus type of software to your device. What it's basically doing is circumventing the login process on Google because it waits for you to log in. But this is a Google specific attack at this point, but there's no reason
why it couldn't be directed at other vendors. And that's why I don't really want to just bust on Google here. It's really more about the idea and how smart and deedious these people are. So, you know, you hear me say all the time multi factor authentication. Well, here's one of the ways they get around it. You enter your use your name of password into your credentials, you know, and then you get prompted for the MSA code you enter that Google sends back a session token. This is kind of nerds
speak, right, but basically a cookie. It's the words your session token, and they're grabbing that after you've already successfully logged in and gone through the multi factor authentication process. So again it's pretty disturbing. In this case, it's specifically targeted to people who are using Google services as particular malware, but it's not like, you know, we see it interest all kinds of different
attacks trying to get around multi factor authentication. Sadly, as much as that does improve your security posture, they're increasingly figuring out what he to work to work around it. So you know, again, folks just have to be
very careful. Don't download anything that you don't understand, don't click links unless you're certain there often authentic, and you know, be increasingly skeptical about anything you're doing that wants to install something or download something, because it could be some kind of malware that's going to steal your session tokens for Google or Microsoft or whatever, at which point they have free ring to do whatever they want,
and that's that's a potentially devastating problem. So they take a bite out of your cookie once you're logged on, and that cookie bite you in the ass exactly. It's kind of like, you know, you've got to keep the cookie monster out here. Yeah, all right, Dave Hadder, thanks for helping us with that again tonight and thanks for your time as all as my friend, always my pleasure, Garrett Jeff, thank you all right. Dave Hatter the Internet of Things World on the Nightcap on seven hundred WL video.
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