3-19-24 The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker

Come back behind the wheel on a Tuesday evening. How you doing, Gary. Jeff Walker is sitting down checking in on election primary night in Ohio. The results will be at the top and the bottom of the hour with the news. Personally, I care about as much as most people in Ohio do if the early turnout was any story at all. But anyway, we've got all of that information for you. Here's one thing. We kind of brought

this up over the weekend on the Saturday Morning Show. I am sick and tired of everyone trying to be Donald Trump, or everyone trying to be as anti Trump as they possibly can in their political ads. There is only one Donald Trump. And I don't care if he endorsed you, if he invited you tomorrow lago, if you've got pictures with Donald Trump, You're not Donald Trump. So just stop it. And I don't care how anti Donald Trump you are. You're a real conservative, not like Trump. It doesn't equate.

It doesn't matter to me. I'm a Trump voter. I'll be a Trump voter again, hopefully in November, if they don't try and find a way to lock him up in political prison between now and then, which they are doing their damnedest to achieve. But no, I'm not looking for another candidate like Trump. The reason I probably care less about the Ohio primaries is I don't live in Ohio, so I can't vote, and those people don't

represent me. But again, my representative, for example, in Kentucky's fourth District, is Thomas Massey, a guy that I will vote for time and time and time again. He've been in trouble with Trump more than once because Thomas Massey does what's best for the people that he works for, in other words, his constituents in the fourth district. He may not work for k Street or the lobbyist, and thank god he doesn't. But you know what, he's his own man. So's Donald Trump. And that's my point.

There's only one Trumpster. And you can either think he belongs in the dumpster or you believe that he should be the forty seventh president of these United States of America. I believe he should have been the forty sixth president of these United Actually he would still be forty five if the election hadn't been stolen out from under the American people in twenty twenty. Fact. But candidates, I know you're trying to grab onto the trump coat tails and write him for as

long as you can. And you know what, he got some pretty decent long co tales. Jd Vance found out that in Ohio a few years back, and some other candidates hoping to ride that whirlwind into office. The fact of the matter is, you're not Donald Trump. Quit trying to even animate like you're Donald Trump. The guy who David Taylor. I thought his campaign

ads were great. He didn't need to allude to Trump because everybody knew what he was talking about when he said he was a businessman, not a politician, And somebody's worked very very hard to build that business, to help his family and to help his community out. And this cycle he was running for the congressional seat. Anyway. The results are flooding in now to the newsroom, and we'll bring you those as soon as possible. Our first guest tonight

on This Night Camp is a man named Jeffrey Katz. He's written a book based on the writings of and I'm gonna screw this up probably several times during the interview, Memodni's who is Memodernize. We'll find out and we'll find out how to pronounce themodernize as we continue after the break, I'm Gary Jeff, you are you? And that's perfectly fine with me. And this is the night capin and no, you're not Donald Trump. Quit trying to say you are. Makes me kind of irritated. Can you tell nine out of ten

drill instructors agree Larry Kaid is the true conservative for Congress. I am your drill instructor, and I have orders for you. Joe Biden and the anti Trump literals are ruining this great country? Am I right? Yes? And Lexunday is Tuesday? And there's only one conservative running for Congress who made an argument in the Supreme Court to keep President Trump on the ballot. What's his name? Why didn't the other congressional candidates defend President Trump in the Supreme Court

like Harry Kid did? Excuse Tucker? Who is the pro life candidate, who is the candidate who will protect our right to own a gun? Cat? And who has a Republican Party endorse man? Hey, Kt, I dismissed, go hit the poles. I'm Larry Kid, and I approved this message. Hey for my kid for Congress. Imagine waking up this time next weekend now as promised, as we continue on this Tuesday evening here on seven out of WLW. We're going to all learn in the next few minutes about

May Modernie's. I'd never heard of me Madnie's until i got this pitch from Sandy Fraser, wonderful public relations person that people like I work with to line up interesting guests and she never lets me down. So I'm looking forward to this. But uh, may Modnie's and we have an authority far far greater than me to explain who May Modnie's was, what he wrote, and there's a new book called Rules to Live By May Modnie's Guide to a Wonderful Life.

Rabbi Jeffrey Katz joins us in this first segment on the Night Captain Night to talk about all of that, and he's here now. Good evening, Rabbi, how are you good evening? Great Gary, Jeff great to be here with you, Thank you, fantastic. So first and foremost tell people who may Modernize was because I had never heard of this ancient PHILOSOPHERY goes back to what the eleven twelve hundreds? Is that correct? That's correct, that's

correct. He was born by most accounts at eleven thirty five they lived about eight hundred years ago. But you know, his teachings are really so current as a matter of fact, you know, I mean Jewish schools throughout the world pour over his stuff every day. And because you know, Thomas Aquinas kind of took over a lot of what he did. My monodies did it in the context of Judaism. Thomas Aquinas did it, uh, it did largely a similar project in the context of Christianity. He had Thomas had certain

other issues to deal with, you know, in terms of that. So and my monody is really is still studied in most major universities today. He was both a master of the spirit and he was the top doctor of his time. So he's a really he was a fascinating guy because again he was both a man of science and best the most prominent doctor of his time. He was basically the personal physician to the royal court in Egypt. He was effectively the royal physician. He was at that time was the Sultan in Cairo

who he was the doctor for. And he was also one of the greatest you know, spiritualists and uh theologian to whoever lived as well. So he really had both worlds his life was very difficult. I mean, the first half of his life he just spent being chased by religious fanatics. He was born in Spain, and Spain was taken over when he was a boy by the Almohads, which were an extreme Islamist sect, and they basically, you

know, were either going to kill people or force them to convert. So he was the first entire half of his life he was running away, and he did a lot of his work, some of his I mean about half of his life's work was done while he was on the run. And he would write, you know, you have to excuse if you find little efforts in this work because I'm like sleeping in the jungle here, running away from these people. You know, I'm not writing under the most optimal conditions,

he would say. But when the dust cleared again. He was kind of the best known doctor of his era and also the top kind of spiritualist and philosopher theologian of his time. So he really is with a remarkable guy, and he gave us these rules that really, you know, he believed in balance, like you have to be balanced in the different areas of your life, because he recognized that if you're just you know, financial success, but your family life, or your love life or spiritual life is poor, you're

not going to be happy. So he really gives the very basic, easy to follow rules in each of the main areas of life. And by doing that, you know, by following these rules, anyone can really turn his life around and become and become happy. But it's I know, it's hard to believe. I kind of stumbled onto these rules when I was a teenager, but I've been living by them my whole life, and they're really they're really, very profound. I hope to be able to have a chance to

get into them a little bit. Here is a quote from his Book of Wisdom. We each decide whether to make ourselves learned or ignorant, compassionate or cruel, generous or miserly. No one forces us, no one decides for us, no one drags us along one path of the other. We are responsible for what we are, and to me, that goes hand in hand with the fact that God gave us all free will. So he did believe that as human beings we had free will, obviously completely, and he was

kind of very he was so strong a believer in free will. He would always say, you know, our whole belief system, our Bible is based on free will, because it doesn't make any sense. For you know, everybody has the freedom, and everybody knows he has the freedom. Also, everyone's senses that his or her future is, you know, to a very large degree, within their own control. So you know, he was big on developing your character and in rules to live by. I give you know,

my mind to these basic formulas for developing your character. I mean, one expression he used a lot was said that the risk of a wrong decision is preferable to the terror of indecision. You know. So he pointed to how important it is in life for success in all areas personal, professional, spiritual, family, to be able to get comfortable making decisions. And he really pointed to the fact that, you know, even if other people need decisions made for them, you know, if you need to, you have

to be in a position where you can make decisions. And you know, things like trustworthiness and reliability. On trustworthiness, he said, my mind maybe said lose with truth and right rather than gain with fullhood and wrong. I mean, because you know, someone tricks you. Maybe it's a short term gain for him, but over the long term, he's going to lose because who wants to deal in any capacity, personally or professionally with someone who tricks

you and is not trustworthy. And he points out that if you just have these basic skills of character, in other words, you're coinable making decisions. You're known as a trustworthy person. You're known as a reliable person who when he says, who's going to do something? Doesn't you know? Among everything else, Just think in your career how you're going to skyrocket, because once you have traits like that and similar traits, you're just head and shoulders above

everybody else. And it's so even though those traits seem so simple, only a few people really perform them. And if you do, you're going to be successful career wise, your character is going to be great, and you're also going to have success in your family life and spiritual life also, you

know, with those unrelated characteristics. Well, Jeffrey Katz, you talk about how seemingly simple these rules are, and I go back to the what we called the golden rule when I was growing up, to treat others as you would have yourself treated. I mean, and you're right, that's as bottom line easy as it gets, and yet we seem to have a hard time as human beings doing that. Why why is it so hard to follow some simple rules? Just Jenmal, you know, that's an amazing question, Gary

Jeff. I think one of the reasons is because sometimes people don't say. People like sometimes a parent, you know, someone will ask a parent, why are you telling your child that it's so basic, And the parents should say because someone has to teach the child right from wrong, the basic rules, you know, like in child grow Ring, for example, it's so important to allow your children to develop the sense of their own judgment and ability

to make decisions for themselves. That's so critical to their own lives. You know, some people think, oh, I'm going to force my child to do the right things, and that's the wrong approach. My mom that he teaches us that once the child gets to be of age where he can think a little bit and reason for himself, don't become is bossed, because once you can try to control your child's life, you're just going to buy for yourself resentment and hatred. What you should do is become your child's advisor.

Tell your child if you do this, this is likely to happen if you do that, the other thing is likely to happen. Then, when your kid sees that you're usually right about that, I mean, because your life experiences so much vaster than his, he'll then come to you as an advisor. And then your child's own judgment will develop and your child will be able to resist all of these pressures from society, all of these messages that you

don't want your child getting. If your child doesn't have independent judgment, your child is just gonna like, just like your bossing and around society tells them to do certain things, they're just gonna kind of like go with that. I mean. Kids are like, you know, trees in some ways. A tree needs water to grow, but too much water. If you water a treat too much, it won't develop strong roots. It doesn't have to because the roots don't need to go down deep because you're giving it too much

water. Same thing with kids. If you don't, if you make all their decisions for them, and you don't allow them to develop their own sense of judgment and their own decision making power, then their roots will also not be strong, and then they'll be they'll just be like flops them when they get all these messages telling them what to do from God knows whatever source it's

coming. They're not going to be in a position to independently make their own good decisions and stick to the values that you wanted them to have, which are basically your own values, because if you're not going to instill your own value strongly in your kids, other people are waiting to instill theirsage talking to Rabbi Jeffrey Katz on Rules to Live By, a book that he has written based on the wisdoms of Maemodernes, who was an ancient philosopher going back about

eight hundred years ago, and Reverend Cats, Rabbi Cats, I'm sorry about that. I just got done talking about to Reverend Harden here a little while

ago. I am. I'm a believing Christian, but it was it was weird that you were talking about how Memodni's would instruct parents to be with their children, and it brought back a verse that was in the sermon this past Sunday in a Christian church from the New Testament, where it says, regarding children, provoke not to anger your children, but instruct them in the ways of the Lord. And that's sounded so similar to what you just wroted.

Yeah, sure, that's a similar and beautiful idea. And again the idea is to develop in your children an independent analysis so that when all this bombardening comes in now from every direction, they'll be strong in their in their values and their beliefs because still have judgment. They won't just be being told by you what to do like robots, because then they just as easily taken the commands from society. They're the coming that are bombarning them from every direction.

Give me another important rule rule to live by from Memodni's before we go. Sure, absolutely, So you know, my Mondoes was very It was very big on that. Just like a child can't be happy unless he is a strong link with his parents, a person cannot be happy unless he is a strong link with God. And my Mondes shows how to develop that link. It's basically a mental link. Where as you think correctly about God, you build up a mental tunnel up to God through your mind. And that tunnel

is a two way tunnel. That's also the tunnel through which God looks down upon you and watches you and watches over you. God can give you ideas through that tunnel. Through that mechanism that will help you resolve things in your life. And my Mondes talks about the divine overflow, that overflowing abundance of guidance and love and ideas and wisdom that's emanating from God at all times. But we have to be receivers for that. We have to. It's like

a radio. You know, the waves are all out there, but if you're not tuned right, you're not going to pick up anything. So the way to get rid of the static in your mind is to get rid of the negativity and the envy and the grudges and the you know, gods that if you have to get rid of all that, focus on the positive, focus on what you're doing, clear your head, and then the signposts coming from God will be very clear in your life and you'll never even believe that

you couldn't see them. But before you've cleared the clutter and the static, you'll never have seen them. But when you do, the guidance will be clear, and you know, you'll wind up focusing in your life on all these terrific things. You'll be focusing on all the positive things, dealing with the negative, but really making the positive things. You know, like the focus and it's really a great formula for success and happiness and fulfillment. Rabbi

Jeffrey Kats. How do people get your book Rules to Live By? Thanks so much. It's the dailable everywhere Amazon, Born to and Noble target. If they go to Amazon, they can get information on me and my books like the latest one, Rules to Live By my Body's Guide to a Wonderful Light on Amazon and they can click through and get all the information on me as well. Thank you so much for your time, good stuff, interesting

stuff. I loved it. Thanks, thank you so much. Grey you got it our little philosophical corner on this Tuesday nightcap back in a moment after news on seven hundred WLW fund is Nightcap Fun seven hundred WLW. Joining us in studio is the man from the Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions. His name is Jim Waters. It's a pleasure to have him on the show. It's great to meet you, Jim, and how are you doing. Hey, it's great to be here. Gary really appreciated the opportunity and thanks for

the introduction. He hit me with a pitch a couple of weeks back about school choice in Kentucky. And that still, for some reason, is a real battleground kind of issue. Mostly the reason, in my estimation, is because of the vast power of the teachers' unions, the public school teachers unions

in Kentucky, who you may or may not remember. During the gubernatorial run, they demonized Daniel Cameron because he wanted to give taxpayer money to these fancy schools and leave public school children out in the lurch, you know, without anywhere to go, and take money away from public schools, which was not the aim of Daniel Cameron or anybody else I know who is for school choice and for vouchers and for allowing parents to choose where their children and go to

school. Jim, I will tell you that I graduated high school and giving away how old I am once again, graduated high school in the summer of nineteen seventy nine. You know what happened in nineteen seventy nine the institution of the Federal Department of Education, another bloated bureaucracy in Washington, DC that you can't get rid of, no matter how hard you tried, no matter how

inept they are as a large federal bureaucracy entity. But I got a great public school education because there was no There was no doe at the time. I really firmly believe that, you know, because you look at test scores and everything else. Ten years after I graduated, after the federal government had fully embedded itself in public school education across the country, and it's only gotten

worse since. As we've seen. All you got to know is there's a war that the federal government declares and it's you know, passed down to the states. The war is not meant to be won because once the war is won, they are no longer they're obsolete, you know. Yeah, it's like the casino. You know, you're not supposed to win now there, you know. But the same thing is true on a state level at public schools, I would assume. And that's why we're here. So tell me

a little bit about the legislation that is on the board. We're coming to the end of the legislative session in Kentucky. Well, on Friday, the state Senate put the finishing touches on a constitutional amendment that would clarify that our constitution in Kentucky does not prevent the legislature from passing and implementing school choice programs. The legislature has been doing that. The problem is the courts, and of course the governor has been out there campaigning against this, so and the

teachers union. So the courts have interpreted our constitution in a way that would simply deny parents the opportunities that other parents have, other families have in Ohio and Indiana, Tennessee, we have five hundred and eighty five charter schools in just Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois. I believe those three states, Kentucky's seven surrounding states all have some type of school choice program Ohio, Indiana, most of them have multiple choice school choice programs, vouchers, scholarship, tax

credits, scholarships for learning disabled children. You know, we get hit with that all the time. Well, isn't school choice just for rich families? You know, Well, actually they already have school choice, Gary Jeff. They have school choice by bird. Well, if they want to write a big check to cover tuition at a non public school because it works better for

their child, they have the means to do it. If they want to move to a better a school district with better schools or better opportunities, they have the means to do it. But we should not leave behind children simply because they're not in the right zip code or because their parents don't have big incomes. You would think that the teachers unions in the left would be all

about pushing for educational opportunities disadvantage kids. In fact, Jim, I think it's been proven over and over again that the more school choice programs that are available for everyone, it really benefits lower income people time and time and time again, and it benefits them in public schools too. We have found that the more choices that states give parents, the better their public education system is

performing. It's the marketplace and competition. In Florida, for example, when Kentucky passed the Kentucky Education Reform Act in nineteen ninety, Florida trailed Kentucky and many of the key A demic areas, and they were spending more than Kentucky. Well, Florida has the most school choice opportunities for their parents in the

nation. And guess what's happened. The more choices they've given parents, the better their K through twelve public education system has performed, improved, and they're spending less. Only one state in the nation now leads Florida is ahead of Florida in their academic performance. Kentucky is spending more. But since we implemented care, which was the largest tax increase in Kentucky's history, our accountability,

our outcomes have stagnated. We've increased spending. You know, back in nineteen ninety, if you took a flate inflation adjusted dollars, we spend about seven thousand dollars per pupil. Today we're spending more than seventeen thousand dollars per pupil. So money is not the problem. You'll hear that from the unions. You'll hear that from the government. You know, if you just gave us

more money. That's really ignores too that our legislature in the past three budget sessions, we've had these large surpluses and they've sent a lot of money to local school districts outside of the normal funding for students. That school districts can do what they want. So when you hear the governor saying they didn't give teachers raises, the legislature didn't give teachers raises. No, because the teachers don't work for the governor or for the state. They work for their local

districts. So if local districts need to give teacher raises, they need to spend more on transportation or capital projects. They can make the decision about how those dollars can be used. But the problem is not funding here. The problem is lack of options for parents. Only about a third of our kids in Kentucky are reading proficially, only about a third are doing math proficientally. If you look at black students, that numbers down in the teens and sometimes

lower in those categories. There could be a direct correlation there again, between being forced to go to a certain public sc school in a certain district and having true school choice for parents. The direct correlation. Parental choice is the key too. You'll hear some folks say, well, Kentucky has choices.

Well, like I said, if you're wealthy, you have choices. The governor sent his own children to a non public school, and he says he thinks that's fine as long as we don't help disadvantage families have that same opportunity, which I think is truly hypocritical. It's truly too bad, you know, really, I mean, because black and low income minority students are proportionately in failing schools and schools that don't work for them, so why can't we

what's wrong with giving families this option. Let me put on my particularly partisan hat here for a moment. You talked about Governor Bashir and thinks it's fine if you've got the money, but they don't want to help assist lower income people with the same options that they may have. And here's what I'm going to say is that, time after time after time, and it's seemingly more

Democrats than any other political party in this country. They want to be seen as the great savior, as helping particularly low income or marginalized members of the population. But what they do is exactly the opposite, time after time after time. And I'm sorry to make that up, but it's the whole Democrat Party, the original party of slavery, still are doing it to a certain extent in twenty twenty four, and it becomes obvious after a while. But

off my soapbox. Back to your topic about school choice. So they're putting the finishing touches in the Senate on this. They have so in our constitution, if the legislature decides an issue goes on the ballot, it goes on the ballot. The governor cannot veto it. He has no say in the

matter. So this issue will be on the ballot in November. But I think it's really important if you don't mind that I say what this amendment is not as much as what it is, all right, This amendment will simply remove the barriers that we've run into in court, legal barriers to having any kind of school choice program. It does not create a school choice program.

It doesn't mandate a specific program. It simply gets out the bush, hal clears out the underbrush and clears the way for the legislature to then come back and decide what are the best policies for Kentucky. Would it would it take it out of an appeals court's hands at that point if it were voted on by the so the Commonwealth. I mean, if it passes, the legislation gets on the ballot and it passes, then does that take the courts out of the thing. Well, we think anything will be challenged, right,

the teachers unions will try. But what we've seen happen here is in twenty twenty one, there was an education Opportunity Accounts Bill that was passed that would have allowed all students public private charter schools to have access to some funds for whatever educational services they needed, and then for nine counties it allowed students to use those dollars to go to a non public school, and the legislature passed

it. The governor vetoed it, the legislature overrode his veto, but the court stopped it, and the Kentucky Supreme Court said at that time they ruled it unconstitutional and said, if you want a program like this, you have to put it on the ballot and amend the constitution. So that's what's brought us to this point. Another case moving through the courts is to try to prevent public charter schools from coming to Kentucky and that process as unions don't want.

Well, it wasn't that. It actually wasn't just the teachers union. This was both of these lawsuits were filed by a group of bureaucrats, superintendents who have led the charge on this and this and the power that's right it is. But if you go back in history, it was Democrats in Washington, d C. Democrats in Chicago, Illinois, Democrats in Los Angeles that created in California, for example, over a thousand charter schools. There are

three hundred plus charter schools in the state of Ohio. This was not done by the right wing Republicans. If you go back in history, Bill Clinton doubled the number of charter schools in our country. So this should not be

a partisan issue. And when you look at some of our largest cities around America, they have some of the most vibrant public charter schools and that gives parents a public choice, that gives them a choice of sending their child to a public school that's run differently than the traditional public what a city like Baltimore, Maryland. That's right, that's that's happening. But their percentage of graduations almost nothing in the publics, in the public, traditional public school. But

that's where we see charter schools. And by the way, I challenged anybody, and no one's ever been able to meet this challenge to find me any educational project, program policy in the country that has ever closed those achievement gaps between black and white students, like public charter schools have in the Bronx and in Harlem, like the Success Academies are in New York, like in Washington, d C. Where they have a tremendous amount of choice. This is

not a partisan issue. It should not be. Unfortunately, our governor has turned it into that. The teachers unions have turned it into that. But if you look at who's helped the most by this, we work with groups of inner city pastors who have said, hey, we might not be we might not be conservative politically, but this is about our kids. We don't

care about the politics. This is about getting our kids in education. What do you know about are there still districts in Kentucky that are teaching what we call CRT critical race theory. Well, there's been some legislation now that would require districts to include parents in the decision making process about curriculum, what's taught, what books are in the library. And so we're going to hold the Bluegrass Institute is going to hold those districts accountable and make sure and they have

to have a written policy, they have to be following it. They can't just say we're doing this, they have to be doing it. And that's a level of transparency that we haven't had. We also need much more transparency in spending. You know all those dollars that I talked about, how they've increased in Kentucky, but not teacher salaries. Teacher salaries have not even kept up with inflation. So all these folks talking about needing more money and so

we can pay teachers salary hasn't kept up with inflation. Leadership, But I'm just saying, all these additional dollars, and yet the teacher salaries, we hear from the left and excuse, well, if you would pay teachers more, if you would give us more funding. Well we've given them more funding and it hasn't happened. So you know, what's the definition of insanity here? We're doing the same things, all that extra money going Jim, Well,

that's what we need to know more about. And we know, for example, in the Jefferson County Schools, one of the largest school districts in the country, in Louisville, there are three hundred and sixty five people employed at the central office with six figure salaries. We're paying pensions on those, and we have a superintendent there that's making twice almost what the governor of Kentucky makes this and then we have teachers who are having to dig into their own

pockets to buy supplies and textbooks for their students. Why that should not be happening in a school district with a two billion dollar budget. Well, I was just going to say, when you started talking about throwing more money at a situation to resolve the situation, it's not about the amount, it's about

where the money goes, and it's about how it's used. And you know, this constitutional midment though, this is this is really driving our oponents up the wall because it doesn't All it does is say we're going to give the legislature of the freedom to come back and make these decisions, and that's when we'll be able then to highlight many of these issues and really I think get some things accomplished in Kentucky. You know, one of the advantages, by

the way, about being behind the rest of the nation. You know, Mark Twain said that he wanted to be in Kentucky because we were twenty years behind with Cincinnati, Kentucky, whatever. But the advantages we can learn from other states, so we can learn how to do this really well. And I think we can have one of the best school choice policies in the country. We can have a universal policy that benefits all families. All families should

have the right to provide the education that's best for their child. There is no argument that stands up against that. You know, if there are public tax dollars being used anywhere in along the steps of those processes, then yes, every family should have access, every citizen. And those dollars are not to fund a system. No, those are not to prop up a system.

Those dollars are to fund the education of students. And the great thing about school choice programs around the country is they're actually saving public school districts money because a lot of times if people take their child out of the public schools and put them in a non public school, the school district they leave still gets a lot of the funding, the local property tax dollars, the federal dollars, and there may be a stream that follows the student. Isn't that

novel and a great idea, But they still benefit financially. So there's all kinds of advantages here and positives here. And we've got so many great stories of kids who have come out of these programs who are living the American dream, and that's what we want to see. We think that money should fund students and not systems. When you hear the government governor talked during this campaign. Throughout the year, you're going to hearing talk about the public school system.

You're going to hear the teachers unions talk about public school system. But what we want to see is the students that should be the main priority. Let the system adjust to the students, Let them adjust to what's needed. And that's what this constitutional amendment will allow us to come back and do. Okay, in about a minute, tell me exactly what anybody listening to this

who lives in Kentucky should do or what they should know. Yeah, well, you should know again that this amendment will allow the legislature to determine in the future what kind of school choice programs we have. This amendment will not do that. This amendment will allow the legislature to do that very important difference, because the opponents are going to try to say this creates vouchers, this creates this, and that it doesn't. It simply allows us to come back.

So the opponents don't want the voters of Kentucky to decide, well, they want them to decide and be misinformed when they decide. They want them to think this will harm public education. I'm a product of public education as well, and I was blessed to have a lot of great teachers. Public education as should be an option, and most people will continue to choose that. But you know what it is, it's the dynamics created by options that

cause the public system to improve. It's the dynamics, not the numbers of kids who will go. It's the fact that there's a choice, fact that there's an alternative, alternative opportunities. Jim Wilpers from the Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions NIPS dot org. All right, what is it BIPs dot org. You can find a lot of information about this issue on there too. Okay, BIPs dot org. Go. The Nightcap continues in moments. You're

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Yarmer, bobblehead stolen bingal, free agent. Silence, my god, the text. I could almost hear him spitting as I read the text from this guy. He was just like apparently his head was exploding and he wanted to share that with somebody and it was me. And thank god, we've got plenty to talk about, obviously, so we might as well get to it. Our first guest in this hour of Sports for the Out of Sorts is none other than Dennis Wildman Walker, Hello wild Man, Hello Gary Jeffan.

That's called show prep in the business. Well, I know, but just the way it was coming across, it was like, man, he can't slow down. The stuff's just pounding one after another after another after another it's like and I just imagine your your head exploding as you were texting. Thank god it didn't because then you probably wouldn't be able to speak to me tonight. Right, yeah, exactly, all right, So what do you want to start with in this this uh lollapalooza sports of palooza pack of things.

Uh, let's start with where you started at the top of your text, the loss of TJ. Friedel for I want to back up here. I want to back up here because Bengal Bengals nation is jumping for joy. The Bengals dip their toe again into free agency, signing a left tackle right tackle Trent Brown from the New England Patriots. And this guy, if he's healthy, oh man, it shall be hard to get around that guy. The Bengals once again have stepped into free agency and got somebody to protect my boy,

Joe Burrow. That is always the issue and you you said it the important coaching point if he stays healthy. And that's a hard thing to do. In the National Football League, as we all know, it's a it's a rough game. It's played by by men who were tough, but things break down. But yes, Trent Brown, this announcement. Was it yesterday

that it came across the wires or this morning early this morning. Yeah, the fact that they've got him in the fold is very encouraging for anybody who is a Bengals or Joe Burrow fan, because we need to keep Joe off his back and make sure that his wrist and his calf remain intact for an entire season and that that will help, that will definitely help. What so far about the Bengals acquisitions and losses, additions and subtractions during free agency,

do you think are the most important and poignant? Uh? And obviously you count this one as a very important piece of the boss obviously obviously Trent Brown, but also making the trade of Joe Mixon. Uh, you know for U Joe mixing for Zach Moss. You know, I didn't like. I wanted them to keep Joe, but I understand where they're going because they freedom some money to sign some other guys. You know. Then they they went out and signed a tight end or you could say wide receiver from the uh

from the Dolphins. Uh. I don't like to give grades, you know, I know, I all these so called experts. I like to give grades. But let's just put in my opinion here. The Bengals at a home run and free agency. They were all in on this. They were all in covering, you know, covering their covering their butts here and there. They did a fantastic job. And they might not be done, but I would say they're ninety percent done going out and signing any free agent.

To me, they hit a home run here. Gino stone Man had seven interceptions and he's going to seven interceptions. He's going to be part of that defensive backfield for the Bengals. Bringing Von Bell back, that was like, oh my god, that's that's fantastic. Yeah, and uh, you think that Zack Moss and Chase Brown will get a bulk of the carries at the running back position. I love what Chase Brown brought last year. You know, I can't wait for a second season of Chase Brown or a third season.

This is this is a good backfield with Zach Moss. I think, yeah, I believe that with the Bengals training trading that pretty much. You know, Okay, Chase Brown, the job is yours. You and Zach Moss are going to be the duo in the backfield. I think that pretty much sent the message to Chase Brown and what I saw when he played, you know the guy, the guy can run. Man, he's a force. So right now, I mean the things that are looking up here for

our Cincinnati Bengals. All right, let's get on with the rads here for a second. And the loss of TJ. TJ. Friedel for the beginning of the season. What does this mean for the ball club? Well, it's not the end of the world. I mean, he was the leadoff hitter, but they I think most likely John's in India because he's got to play. It's gonna probably be the leadoff hitter. Will Benson, Stuart Fairchild, they can play center field. The Reds might go out and look for

somebody, but I I highly doubt it that. They've got so many guys that can play different positions. And that's the way baseball is today. When Freedo comes back, I mean, he's got to be careful because risk injuries, as you know, are kind of tricky. I mean, look at Joe Burrow, he missed the whole season. So Freedo just got to be patient and just you know, follow the instructions of the doctors and he'll be

back. He might be out three or four weeks. They're saying he might miss a month of playing time, and he might have to go out for a rehab assignment to get us back back contuned. But I don't think it's the end of the world with TJ. Friedel missing three to four weeks or whatever, because they've got guys that can't replace him, and like I said, the leadoff hitter, Jonathan Ania, you can plug him right in there, the lead off. Well, the Reds have made announcements on their their

four starting pitchers. They're still looking for a fifth guy in the rotation. And you know, we have we have Montage, we have Hunter Green. Who else is in that group that's already been named as starters? Like four people that they named, uh Montage, uh, Hunter Green, Golly, you know it just it just came across this morning as yeah, yeah, and I saw it last night, all right, Martinez Martinez, that's right, Martinez. Uh. And and they're they're then they're going to decide between

Andrew Abbott and somebody else. Oh yeah, Andrew Andrew Abbit that would be the four. Then it comes down to Williamson or Lodolo. Yeah. But Williams and I understand had a flight problem, had to come out of the game on I think it was Saturday, So I think they're leaning toward Ledolo

to be there. Well, you know, according to this report from Cincinnati dot Com, the Cincinnati Reads twenty twenty four, starting rotation won't truly be set until April the tenth, when Nick Lodolo is scheduled to be activated from the injured list and step back into his role as a front line starter. Brandon Brandon Willimartin. Brandon Williamson was the other. Brandon Williamson was the other

of the four that were announced Nick Martinez and Brandon Williamson. Okay, well, Brandon Williams and up until that's light, we had to come out of the game. I think it was Saturday or was it Sunday's two innings. Yeah, so I don't know, you don't know, but it is. It is going to come down to starting pitching. You know. I've talked with her about this, and it's obvious to anybody who has watched any baseball, especially in the last ten years, that it's all about the starting rotation

and can they go more than six innings consistently? Can they get people out and can they give their bullpen just enough room to save and win games? And you know last year it was just in the year before, it was like, God, can you get out of the fourth or fifth inning? Guys come on and it just seemingly wasn't working there. So we'll see if

this is finally turning the corner. I love when Abbott came in and you know, at first and he learned a lot about life as a major league starting pitcher last year, and he's going to have that knowledge and I believe he has the skill and talent to definitely be a part of that starting five rotation. You and if you're a left hander, you get twenty lives they get They give left handers more chances than anybody, and he's a lefty and

lefties are hard to get, especially in a starting rotation. I'd like Andrew Rabbit a lot. Like you said, I think he learned last year on how to approach the approach these hitters, and they know they started to, you know, get the book on him. But I really like Andrew Rabbit. I think their rotation is good. I mean, Frankie Montosh had a

good outing of the other night. You can't complain about that. I mean, I have to get it struck out six struck out seven guys, so we you know, everybody was starting to worry because his ERI was a little high. The rotation they've got, I like, but can they go And I said this before two or three times when I was on with you, they got to go more than six innings consistently or they're not going anywhere. Absolutely, talking to the wild Man in this hour of sports for the out

of Sorts. We'll see if we can get him out of sorts here in the next segment, we'll take a quick break and come back talk a little basketball and one of one of wild Men's favorite topics coming up on the nightcap on seven hundred ared WLW. It's got in tick Barcus this weekend at the Ohio Expolks, that just take I seventy one to exit. Back with the wild Man on a Tuesday night night Cat seven hundred wl W and Garry Jeff with Dennis Wildman Walker. One of his favorite topics. I teased, he

said, he's scared. Now you should be scared. It's just hugs, good old hugs, baby. Everybody hugs. Everybody needs hugs. Wild Man hugs hugs. He's still out there looking for work. And what's what's the latest and the greatest on Bob Huggins. Well, I read a report yesterday that he had an interview with some TV station out of Pittsburgh where he said that he would he wants to coach again. He wants to help the help

young people. He loves helping young people. He'd like to stay at West Virginia and be the coach, but he knows that's not really gonna happen. So he wants to coach. And he hasn't had a drink since his DUI incident, which is a great thing. I believe he's lost close to forty fifty pounds. I know he's seventy years old, but you know what, you look at his record and look at the the was track record. I mean, he came to UC, turned them around. He went to Kansas

State, he turned them around. He went to West Virginia, which was a mess, he turned them around. Seventy years old means nothing. Age means nothing, especially as a basketball coach. And the job at Louisville, which I was getting all excited about, it's still open now. I just read a report today where this guy that was so so called expert about coaching changes didn't have Huggins in the list. He had Mick Cronin in the list.

Possibly Mick Cronin because he has some ties at Louisville when he worked under a Rick Patino. But a guy that could turn the program around would be Bob Huggins at Louisville. Some people wouldn't like it, but you know, do you want to win, do you want to get your program straightened out? Bob Huggins would be the guy. So the Louisville job, as of this point, we believe is still open and Bob Huggins, Bob Huggins might might come at that job. You would know, his his prime job,

his dream job has always been as a head coach of the Mountaineers. His his alumni. You know, this is the guy his alma mater, and that obviously not in the cards for Bob Huggins anymore. But I always,

I always enjoyed watching Bob Huggins on the sideline. I always enjoyed watching him coach that you see bearcats when he was here, and thought that the way he was summarily run out of town on a rail by Nancy, by Nancy z for Yeah, who it was obviously that's the only reason you see hired Nancy's in for She had to she had to come in and get rid of Bob Huggins. That was kind of out of her hands. But she was

the one that was the instrument of destruction in that case. Yeah, and then she runs off to Boston University or Boston College, I think it was Boston University really had a scandal up there on or her. You know, so two places she ran offten she took over as scandals some people. Some people chase scandals. I guess that's that's why they vote for Joe Biden. Chelsey's them for Blond out of a bottle, Blond out of a bottle. I I used to call her that horrid woman that you see on the air,

right, you're right horrid. But as I stepped back and had perspective, I realized that it wasn't Nancy. They used her as the mouthpiece to do it. She was kind of like the ponscious pilot. Yeah, of that whole thing, washing her hands of it could have been it could have been handled a lot better, but you know, that's the water under the bridge, and we'll move on and hopefully Hugs will get a job. I mean a team wants him to turn her program around. He's the guy.

I don't think he'll be out of work long at All you see is playing, uh, at least one more basketball game against George No excuse me, not George San Francisco, San Francisco tomorrow night in the n I till then the Dons. I mean, is there a real reason? Let me ask you this too. Do you think it was it was a bad thing? Rick Pattino said, Now we don't need to go to the n I T. We need to focus on getting better for next year at Saint John's.

Let me give you that question first. I think that's Rick Bettino's decision, not whether to play or not to play. I'm sure he ranted by the kids, say what do you want to do? And they probably said we're not interested in playing that we're win arrested. What you what you think we should do? Coaching? That's Rick Bettino's call. This n I T tournament. You know, I always like the n I T Tournament. This n T Tournament is set up, possibly Gary Jeff for you see to possibly meet

Xavier because they're on the opposite side of the bracket. That could happen. And then if you see, can meet San Francisco tomorrow night. Don't have another home game, So it's set up right now that you See and Xavier could meet in this thing, they could meet. All right, well, I mean we will have to see what happens. Of course, Xavier is already done playing. We just don't know the outcome right now, wild man. Correct, you see taking on San Francisco at home at Fifth Third Arena

tomorrow evening, and we'll get a clearer picture of whether they continue. Let's talk about the real tournament. Wild Man, you got any favorites? You got any bracket busters? Why? I entered one bracket contest and I have sat Mary is advancing I believe to the final four. I won't have an available right here, but I have hold on to your hat. Hold on to your hat. I have the Kentucky Wildcats winning the National champions. What

I have the Kentucky Wildcats winning the National champions? Are you insane? I'm not insane because the weather they're set up and the way they're set up, it looks pretty easy. All right, Who are the Wildcats playing first and playing Oakland? Play in Oakland? Yeah, come on, many handle them with no problem. Well you'd think I thought they were going to handle Arkansas

with no problem. Yes, it's another SEC school, but that was right down to the wire, and Arkansas was no better than a five hundred team in the SEC. But Oakland the Bears of Oakland facing the Wildcats of Kentucky. So what's the explain your rationale in uk winning the whole damn thing? Because you look at their now is looking at who they possibly will play or the other team's losing. And I looked at Kentucky and I said, well, they they're going to score points. They're going to score points. We

know they're going to score points. But they got to play some defense. But can they play defense? We're gonna find out here, aren't we. We're gonna find out they can play defense. I'm take in Kentucky, all right? Who went? All? Who have you got him playing in the second round? In the second round, I don't have the bracket. You're in front of me, so I can't I got I don't have it in front of me here. Well, I mean you're you're quoting Saint Mary's in

UK. I guess those were easy, since Saint Mary's has no business being in the final four, and I don't think UK has any business winning a national championship. They simply have not astball expert do you have? I don't fill out brackets anymore because I realized about ten years ago that I'm thinking I

knew something about college basketball news, zero, zilch, nothing. And you know what, you can get a trained monkey, or even an untrained monkey to fill out brackets and do better than some of the ex Well, you've got a few of those working at that radio station of yours. Hey, hey, watch it, watch it. You're right, you're right. Why have UK playing Yukon? Okay, I have Ukon making it to the championship game. Oh not that I can Yeah, I can see Yukon being in

the championship game. I'm just wow. I hope you're right. You know, I live in Kentucky and I'm around Wildcats all the time, so I mean, yes, it would be nice, I guess for another national championship. I just don't think John Caliperry is is capable of coaching another national championship team and He's proven that this year over and over and over again. Well, I know John Caliperi speaks highly of you when I talk to him on occasion, so I do know that. How about uh, how about Alan

Alan Cutler? Does he speak highly of me when you talk to him? I have never spoken to that goof ball? Are you kidding you? Figure? I figured that the wild man and the hedgehog would have a lot in common. We have nothing in common. Zero with a capital C, my friend. Well, it will be interesting to see how your bracket works out. Wild Man. I'm rooting for you. I just don't think it's very likely that UK is going to win it all in the NC two aas.

But we they got to play the games. We'll see. They got to play the games, yes, sir. They got to keep Oakland from scoring more than ninety points on Thursday night. That's what they gotta do. Let me put it this way, if they UK Wildcats lose to Oakland, they will runs out in Caliperi out of town on a rail. And that's not gonna happen. All right, wildman Walker, thank you for being our week. Done. I don't get to talk about the yam heir Yager Babbo hats

getting stolen? You just did? Oh kind of? We got a roll the all Shipman got stolen. Now they're on eBay for three d n a piece. Well, what a shame. And I really wanted my Yamir Yager bubble head. I'll just have some Jaggermeister and drown my sorrows. The wild I'll get you, I'll get you one. I'll get you one. But I've got connections the wild Man as segment of sports for the out of Sorts on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. And he would he would probably disagree,

probably say he's happy, go lucky. He's very, very content all the time, almost has a smile on his face, a little spring in his death. But I've found him to be a little bit out of sorts from time to time. He's a human being. I mean, what else. It happens to all of us. And I don't mind if he's a little angry, but I hope he's not. Let's find out. I'm talking of course about the fur Ball Andy Furman, and he's joining us now on the night Camp. Hello, Andy, how are you feeling? It's called

constipation when you're constipated. That's when you don't feel good. That's when you're irritable. Okay, that's what it's called. Say it, you can get it out. I'm not constipated now. Ok So I was going to ask, did we all pray for you to have diarrhea so you can fix the problem. But apparently you've had some movement. I think that's rather a personal question. But I had a pretty damn good movement. How's that? I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, which is good? You know what.

I This is not an endorsement, and I will let everyone know what's expensive as all get out, but balance of nature works pretty good. You ever tried that little cat? There are little capsules of actual fruits and veggies, and you're supposed to take three of them a day of each, the fruits and the vegetable. But it's supposed to give you your compliment of vegetables

and fruits that you should have to have a happy, healthy lifestyle. And obviously you're getting it the old fashioned way, which surprises me because almost every other time I talk to you, you're going to like a chili parlor and getting Cooney's. That doesn't sound very healthy to me or white cattle. You know what, white cat. Every once in a while you could treat you. So we call it cheat days. You know, as far as the bodies can sew with exercise, that's what we do, is a cheat day.

But you know what, I got bigger, better things to talk about my freaking stomach. Okay, all right, better because let me tell you what's going on right now. Obviously Reds Baseball's right around the corner a little more than a week about days. But we've got this NT Double A tournament, and I have no idea who the brain trust is of the NT Double

A or college basketball. What do I mean by that? The games were on Sunday and then Sunday night they had the selection deal, all right, they had the selection show, and then on Monday to have the portal. Tell me why and who the great brains of our world today would decide to

have the portal open up on Monday when the tournament is starting. So, in other words, if my team is in the Anti Double A tournament, and I got a guy on my team, maybe who's a sixth man not playing much, and he was forced to play on Thursday in the tournament, he's coming over to the day coach. You know what, I'm not real happy I'm going to go in the portal? What? Who does this?

What? First of all, I'm not a bit fan of the portal anyway, but I guess if college coaches could go from heath the team and they can move, I guess players can move too. But to combat that the years ago, he used to have a sitout rule for a year. That's gone down the two too. So I just don't get it. I don't understand the entire process. But why would you have the portal opening up on

Monday? Tell me? I know, I don't know. It's the same reason that when a coach changes jobs in college football that you have you have to change. You have to jump to that new job before your your team's bowl game. You work for all season long, and you're in a bowl and I don't care. I mean, if it's a national championship, maybe that wouldn't happen. But they're important to the universities and to the alums and

to the kids who were playing for you. I don't understand why they don't have a rule in the NCAA where you can't change jobs until after the season is completed. You can't do it because to me, because to me, a bowl game is still part of your season. It's not. I know it's an extra game, but it's still part of your team season. And you shouldn't be able to jump ship until you fit your season. And the

NCAA Tournament is a bonus for teams that played particularly well. It's a reward for those players, and there's coaches, and you shouldn't be able to transfer anywhere until your season. I eat your season, not the regular season. Your season is over. What do you think about that? I'm so proud of you. I didn't think you had it in you for You're exactly rightless. We saw that first hand here in town when Brian Kelly bolted out of

UC. They're gonna know to day that's what we're all right. That's what he did. He missed the ballgame. You work your butt off all year long to try to get into a ball game. You finally do it. The kids are there, the coaches that hot, everybody's there and beingal what happens to have that dinner? He doesn't go to the dinner or shows up later announce it that the dinner that he's gonna believe to go to know your Dame? Right. That was the most ridiculous thing I saw, Almost as

bad as the portal. It was terrible, really, you see, High and Dry. Didn't Fickle do the same thing, though, I don't remember what Fickle left, But was UC going to a bold I mean, I forget, I don't remember, honestly, all right, what no, But you're right. The Brian Kelly thing is the most glaring because it was one of the more hope, high profile coaching changes that year, him going to Notre Dame and leaving UC High and Dry after he had just you know,

that's the other thing that always kids me. I don't listen to a damn word any of these coaches say when they're asked by reporters, or they even even when they make a commitment to the university they're currently at by signing a new contract. I don't listen to a damn word they say when they said that they're committed to UC or they're committed to this institution or that one,

because they lie all the damn time. And you know what, Brian Kelly did, his little carpet bag move up to a Notre Dame and and and you know what, Yeah, he wound up in a rolled up newspaper on his nose. He made a lot of money, but he certainly, certainly, I don't think he elevated his status as a college coach. He landed

the job at LSU, and everybody wants to coach in the SEC. But you know what, I haven't seen any evidence that Brian Kelly is more highly regarded as a college football coach than he was when he was leading the University of Cincinnati to that wonderful, unheard of success here. And I'm just but again, there's no reason to listen to these coaches, whether it's basketball or football. And they've signed a new contract with the current university and then you

know, two days later, they announced that they're going somewhere else. I think they're all a bunch of vipers, a bunch of liars. Andy, They're they're lying their teeth, lieing their teeth out except one except one. And I got a quick story for you about that. But let me just get this up by chest because I'm making this not a prediction. It's gonna happen. Bob Huggins is going to be a next coach at University of Louisville. Write it down, put it in blood. Huggin there's the number one

selection. He's the number one pick for Louisville right now. They want him. Whatever happens legally, I don't know, but Bob Huggins will be coaching the Cardinals of Louisville next season. You heard it here. That's number one, number two. It's talking about coaches that lie and try to get away with things. There's one coach who didn't lie, Dan Munson at Long Beach

State. Did you hear a story about this guy? It's unbelievable. He goes out to the athletic director of the other day right before the tournament, that Postseedson tournament. He says, you know what, I think I've had enough, but then I'm gonna leave, and then I'm gonna quit. So the athletic third says, you know, yeah, that's okay, but they're gonna fire the guy. And they said, but you know what, I

owe it to the kids. I owe to the death. Sound gonna state till the end of the season, till the end of the tournament, and then I'm gonna pack it in and go all right, that's fine. What did he do? Long Beach State goes out and wins three straight games and they're in the NCAA Tournament. How do you like that? Now they're gonna play Arizona in the first round. I doubt very seriously on the fifteen seed they're gonna beat the number two seed Arizona. But what a great situation.

He stayed for kids. They came back and rallied for him. They won three straight games. They're in the NTUAA Tournament. What's the athletics than they're gonna do? Is theyre going to hire him back? Now? It's unbelievable. He's got him back to the wall. This Dan Muns has been around. He's coached a couple of teams across the country. He coached in Minnesota.

He's a pretty dun good coach. But you know what, he deserves better than Long Beach State, and he deserves a better athletic director than that led this team to the Anti DOUBLEA, and boy where he get egg on his face the athletic director. If Wale Beach State could come back and beat

Arizona in the first round, that would be great. All right, let's backtrack just a moment on your first point about Bob Huggins being the new head coach at the University of Louisville. I just got off the phone before you and I were talking with another person who thinks they're a sports impresario, who thinks they're they're one of the what Gary Burbank to call him the officionados. You're an officionado. This guy considers himself to be an officionado. His name's

Dennis Walker. You've heard of him, the wild Man. And he said, I don't know, I don't know, but I want hugs at Louisville. You know, the job's still open, and he believes that there's still a chance Huggins can be named the head coach at Louisville. But ye, you're saying, you're saying, definitely it's going to happen, right, I say, less something miraculously happens. It's sort of a done deal. Well, he's going to assigned the papers and he's there, well happy, But

I'm here people on the social media. I put this on social media bout a week ago, and I'm here at people are he's a ball, he's a drunk. He's wait a minute, any sudden bing Hall of Fame drunk. Okay, he west in peace, Rick Patino, chet Bingo. How many Tuggses he had? You get a second if you're talented, and Huggins is talented, he's a Hall of Famer. He'll get a job, and

he's going to be a Louisville that's wonderful. I mean, two weeks ago you were saying he was going to be the head coach at Ohio State. Andy, So I didn't see going to be. I said I'd like to see him at Ohio State. That's what I said. You don't put words in my mouth I said. I said I'd like to see Huggins get the job at Ohio State simply because he had some Ohio roots and he's been at wallsh and he knows the state. But this is more of a done deal.

I would have loved to see him at Ohio State, but there was no there was no conversation between Huggins and Ohio State. There's been some conversation between Louisville and Huggins. You know, if it doesn't happen something that the eleventh hour back down, but I believe it's gonna happen. Well, last last segment, wild Man also brought up the possible specter of Mick pronin coming to Louisville. I you know what, you know, he did coach there.

He coached there, He was on the bench with Rich Bettino. I don't see that happening, although really and truly it wouldn't be a bit idea simply because they're going into a meat grinder. You know, the PAC twelve is basically gone. There's two teams left to where they're going. They went to the Big Ten I mean obviously to go to Louisville and compete in the ACC. I think the ACC is not as strong obviously as the Big ten and a better chance to win. There's a meat grinder, the SEC,

the Big Twelve, the Big Ten, all those conferences. You know, on a nightly basis, you get your head banged in at the ACC. It could certainly dominate, and Lloydsville as the opportunity to dominate at one time they did, and I think they could do it again with the right coach. Do you have any dark horse favorites for the Big Dance, Andy, Any teams you'd like to see advance, any teams that you think may surprise people, what have you seen? And you're you're you're very very clairvoyant,

Crystal Ball, Andy Furman. That tells you this team or that team really has a chance to go for the gold. Well, as we sit here right now, you got to say that the peribitive favor in this University of Connecticut, I think the head and shoulders above everybody else. I like Florida Atlantic. I tell you why they were there last year. They made the Final four, and I basically have the same team coming back. You know.

As far as sleepers and teams that may be dark horses or you know, the cindere Is, you know, honestly, there's gonna be a lot of them. Because I think one team Cannock go off. Any other team Creighton crighton's a possible. I like Creighton a lot. I really do. Look at the draw that these teams are in. I think Creighton's in a very favorable drawer. Then they could really go deep. Other than that, I mean, uh, you know, Connecticut. I thought Tennessee was gonna

be a factor early on. They're gonna turn it around now, Rick Barnes gonna get it together. They were they were awful down the stretch. Kentucky beat him up, Saily good and next thing you know, Tennessee went down the cropper. But I like Kentucky if they can play a little defense. I think Kentucky to go deep. I really do. If if yeah,

yeah, if fine. I talked to the wild man. Uh last segment, Andy, I hate to refer back to that again, but you know there if if Oakland scores ninety points against UK on Thursday, it's over. They're done. There's there's no reason are you quoting. Why is wild in the Barabada of sports in this marketplace? Why are you quoting in acording him? You don't need name? Well, no, no, no, I need you both see, because I get a balanced I get a more balanced

kind of feel and conversation. Everything I say, everything I say, you go back and to a wild man said this, who gives a ratsass? You're right what he said, You're right, you're the death I do. But come on, really, you're absolutely correct, and I apologize and I'll never bring up that name again. Oh I love it. You can bring up his name, but you know it's not like a talking point. Come on, really, okay? Well, uh so, so, anyway, you like fau to be in the final four again, I think they could

be. I really do. I like Creighton, Creighton to be in the final four. I think Creighton will be there. I really do like Cighton. I like Coote. Greg McDermot, I thin he's a hell of a coach. Always like Greg mc dermot. You know, I like these guys. Why because when I reach out, I reach out to a lot of these plays, these coaches, I write to them, you know. And and I remember several years ago and I was doing Fox Sports Radio the Sunday

night, the night of selection Sunday. I reached out to Greg McDermott, and he went on the radio with me. You know what think that is. I mean, that's a big deal. I mean, to me, that's a big deal. I mean, most of these guys that call me back. I'll give you an example, Sky Boyton pointing the coach o' call in the state. He just got canned the other day. All right, you've been there seven years. He made the NT double a one time, one time in seven years. He got fired. All right, So I

called him up about a year ago. Guy played high school bawl in Brooklyn, all right, for the Brooklyn Dailey Eagle and I played for Bishop Locklan High School. Feeld be a nice feature, so I said, told the coach point, oh, you gotta go through this. Put it in writing. Well, sence, I'll send it. You know what, kiss my rear end you know what to be in the newspaper in your hometown and the Brooklyn Eagle. Screw you. He got fired the other day. Okay,

good good. I'm not happy he got fired. I'm not happy anybody gets fired. But you've got to be a nice guy. Gotta be a nice guy. I just ort a congratulatory letter the other day to Herb send Deck. You remember Herb send Deck used to go to Miami. Okay, he coaches the state. Yeah, he's great guy. He coaches at Saint Mary's. Now, right, I checked my mouth today. Sends me a card back great here from here. That's a class guy. That's a class guy,

s Mary's. If they pay attention to you, what have they What have you done for me lately? Is the firm and attitude? Right? Oh, it's this other what they do for me? You know, you're showing me that you have you know, your character, you're course a man? Yeah, you do? You have class. You know. Give you another example. A good friend of mine, he used to coach Bryant College

and Rhode Island, got in trouble. His name is Jared Grosso. I was good friends with his dad, and his dad played at my high school. Fred Grosso, may he rest in peace. Great player. Had a try with the Denver Rockets of the old A B A all right, and uh. He was good friend with Rick Patino. Patino was supposed to hire his coach assistant coach with the Knicks. But Patino coached the Knicks, all right. Patino gave him a chef. It didn't happen, all right.

So my buddy, Jared the son lost his job at Ryant this year. So I wrote to Patino. I said, dear Rick, I said, you know, Jared, Freddie's son's out of a job. Benine, you put him on the staff if you can help me now, just for Freddy's sake, but never hurt from the guy. I'm glad that Saint John's didn't get in to the NCAA. Told me, you know why, it's all about Rick Patino. It's all about me, me, me, It's all about Patino knocking the system. They didn't deserve to win. They didn't deserve

to be in there. You know, if North Carolina would have taken care of business in the acc maybe they would have got in then. But North Carolina State won five games in five days. They got in, all right. So Patino got the squeeze and he's yelling and screaming troop Ricky. It is a one. It is an exciting time of the year, and I'm glad that you are matching that excitement level tonight. Andy. Remember you can't spell Furman without without you an M A N. Goodbye? Were you forced

to get a nosebleed mortgage? On the cop of this night? Cash on seven hundred l W joining us IT expert. When you want to talk about the Internet of Things world, this guy has it spinning on his finger, just like pistol pete parrabish, and he just keeps spinning that so he knows all about the ins and outs and want to watch out mostly what to watch out for. Occasionally there's good news. We'll see if there's any tonight. Dave Hatter, good evening. How are you? I am great here,

Jeff? How are you? I'm all right? I'm all right. I have found one little bit of good news in the stuff that you send me every week to talk about. And here it is. I'm majority of teens feel happy, peaceful without smartphones, according to a survey. Well surprised. I hope they didn't spend a lot of money on this survey because I could have pretty much predicted that outcome. But anyway, what we got there,

Yeah, I'm with you. I think this is good news. Pew did a study and they found that teens between the ages of thirteen and seventeen overall seem to be happier when they don't have their cell phone stuck in their face. Now, as a father of four kids, the oldest twenty eight and the younger fifteen, you know, all of my kids have grown up during this mobile phone era. All of them spent a lot of time on it.

You know, my older kids are now off doing their own thing, and I think they've, you know, to a large extent, gotten away from it. My youngest is now, you know, the one I have to worry about with this stuff, and you know, he spends more time on it than I would like, but he's not just completely collude to the thing. And I think you're right here, Jeff again, I think there's some hope in these findings. So perfew, a grand total of about seventy

four percent said they're happy without their phone. That was thirty two So they often feel happy, yeah, thirty two percent, often, forty two percent sometimes so happy. It's seventy four percent total. And then forty seven percent said they're sometimes peaceful, and twenty five percent said they're often peaceful of no

phot Now there's still a significant number of kids. And the other three buckets stay tested, which were anxious, upset, and lonely, who said they felt you know, often or sometimes anxious, upset or lonely, but that that ranked in like the forties at the high point. So I think we're moving in the right direction, and hopefully our society as a whole is realizing there's more things in life than the phone and the incredibly addictive and incredibly privacy

destroying apps that people spend so much time on on these devices. Well, I know that I and I'm certainly a long way from being a teen God knows, but I I know I'm always happy. If I forget my phone, I'll just look at my wife and I are out to go. You got your phone. She goes, yeah, okay, good because I don't have mine and I don't want mine. In fact, why didn't you leave yours? It's nice to be it's nice to be off of the so called

grid every once in a while, Dave. I couldn't agree with the mortgage, Jeff. I mean, as a guy who spends the enormous amount of time sitting behind and working on a computer and hands for a thirty plus years. Now, yeah, it does not hurt my feelings at all to get off the grid, go outside, get some vitamin D, and just get away from technology. In general. It's a good thing. Everyone needs to

do it more often. Well, And the thing is, and I said get off the grid kind of slyly because that's getting increasingly more difficult with all of the surveillance. We've got satellites going up next year that can pinpoint anyone anywhere around the world and know exactly where you are anywhere on the globe. So I'm just gonna take every little nu of good news I can get and digest that and try not to worry too much about the rest, because it's

all coming whether I worry about it or not. Like this, the White House warrens cars made in China could unleash chaos on US highways. Well, duh again, you and I have talked about autonomous cars and about the internet connectivity of all automobiles. Everything is hooked up, whether it's your GPS or your satellite radio or your car itself signaling back to the maker of your car, who then relays the information to your insurance company and jacks up your rates

because you went ten miles over the speed limit on the highway. So anyway, there is this. And Donald Trump was just talking this weekend about cars made in China and made in Mexico coming over here and him slapping huge terror. That's a different story as he was talking to autoworkers. But there is there is a possible glut of Chinese made cars with Chinese technology that can track or can do any number of things to the automobile you happen to be driving.

If if you're driving one of those, just explain some of the dangers if you will, about this. Yeah, Gary, Jeff, I'm glad you brought this up, And honestly, I'm glad to see the Biden administration raising concerns about this. I mean, everything you said is exactly right, and interestingly enough, and doing some research to talk about this with you today, I found the Wired story on it. You know, Wired is a tech magazine slash site, and so here's the Wired headline. The White House

warns cars made of trying to unleast stay out from the US highways. And as I was reading through that article, I see a link to This is a Wired article from twenty fifteen, so almost ten years ago. Hackers remotely kill a jeep on the highway with me in it. And this was a Wired reporter. So we've probably talked about this before, because every once in a while I like to bring this up. But as far back as twenty fifteen, and even prior to that, experts were raising concerns about our increasingly

interconnected cars. Now you mentioned Internet of things, right, we now have these so called smart devices. Are refrigerator smart, our doorbell is smart. And I'm using that term as facetiously as possible. Thoroughly despise all of these

things because they're all privacy and security gumpster fires. And you know, the Wired story goes to show that it led to an actual recall from Preifer on a whole bunch of vehicles because hackers were able to get in and you know, discombobulate the engine and do all kinds of things while this Wired reporter was driving this thing that was twenty fifteen. Do you think your car is more computer or less computer now, Gary, Yeah, Well, I tell you

what I'm dry. One of our cars is at twenty twelve, and I'm so glad it's got just no technology for creature comfort and no more than I need, and a lot harder to be tracked or finagled with from a remote source. So I'm happy about that. And that's increasingly important, as these stories shows. So now you get into a scenario where you have Chinese companies building cars that they want to dump in the American market that are essentially rolling

computers. And I'd also like to point out to folks, if you want more information on this outside of the Chinese car angle of it, Mozilla, the people that make the Firefox browser, put out a study late last year about how all modern car brands are rolling computers. They all collect enormous amounts of information about you. Recent story hit the press about how these car companies are now selling this data in many cases and insurance companies are now jacking up

people's premiums or canceling their policies as a result. Nissan just had a huge data breach, so you know, all this really sensitive information that they're collecting from your car could have been leaked in that breach. You know, you plug your phone into the car, it's got all your contacts, it's tracking everything that you're doing. So you know, this is not a problem exclusive to Chinese cars by any stretch of the imagination. All car manufacturers are doing

this. Again, I encourage people go check out this Mozilla report. I think most people who have bought a car in the last couple of years will be shocked by what it is capable of, and most likely he is doing so. Now fast forward to this idea that you're going to buy a car made in China. Now, you know, we've just spent all this time recently on TikTok. You and I have talked about TikTok many times. I'm

not a TikTok fan. I'd love to see TikTok go away, although I'm not sure this bill in Congress is the right way to go about it. We're worried about TikTok for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the aggressive data collection. You know again, I think the primary issue with TikTok is that the persuasion, flash propaganda capabilities. But why they would

be able to do that through your car? They would also and so again we're going to have our primary adversary in the world delivering cars to the United States that they could potentially remotely control, not only to steal your data, not only to propagandize you, but as many experts have pointed out, over time, these increasingly autonomous cars, increasingly computerized cars, could be turned into

weapons. Whether it's at five PM on a Friday night, I'm going to shut down every Model X from manufacturer Y car, whether it's American or Chinese or not, or I'm just gonna I'm going to make all the models of this car just accelerate right. You won't be able to control it. We saw the story about Mitch McConnell's sister in law who somehow managed to back a

Tesla into a lake and drown. Imagine for a second, Gary jest, we get into some sort of real world hot war kinetic type situation with China, and hundreds of thousands and millions of Chinese cars suddenly just become weapons. They all just accelerate until they run into something that is not far fetched. That's where we're at with this. It's so I'm very happy to see the Biden administration raising concerns about this. And the last thing we need is a

highway full of cars made by our number one adversary in the world. Amen. Amen, you're talking about TikTok and my rep. And I guess he's your Rep. Too. In Kentucky, Thomas Massey, when the TikTok ban vote came up, voted no on the ban, and he illuminated a couple of really important reasons why he voted no against banning TikTok, and this particular legislation was that it gives the president, any president, the power to determine, you know, if something should be banned. The language in the bill

just was problematic for Tom, But I'm with you. Something has to be done about TikTok's and flows in this country. And the last thing you need is TikTok in your car for God's sake. All right? Yeah, so has the two for one and as there So here we go. A mysterious leak exposed Chinese hacking secrets. Another story from Wired. We're talking with Dave Hadder in the nightcab. Dave tell me about this, well, you know, it's it's a great segue from the TikTok Chinese car conversation we were having.

And I don't know if you've happened to pay much attention to the news today, Gary, Jeff, But and this this is not just exclusive from the day, but over over the past month or so, there have been a lot of stories out there. Here's one. USA is still sorry, US is still chasing down pieces of Chinese hacking operation and essay official says, and you know, it's well known and has been well known for a long time. But again the Chinese and I'm gonna I don't have the quote in

front of me, I'm going to paraphrase here. You know, FBI Director Christopher Ray has been raising concerns about Chinese hacking on critical infrastructure. They're well known to have been, you know, doing industrial spionage and stealing trade see to hacking for a long time. I mean, just go look at their new fighter jet. It looks amazingly like ours. Go look at their new

commercial airliners. It looks amazingly like ours. I'm sure they've spent you know, billions of dollars in research and development, working hard behind the scenes to pull those off, right or no, they just steal that data from American companies and American defense contractors and so forth. So again, this is not a new concept, but as some of these hacking efforts get revealed, you know, it provides some really interesting insight into the fact that China continues to

be And again i'll paraphrase Director Ray here. He said recently that they believe that they have like fifty times the number of people in these offensive type hacking positions versus other countries like the United States. You know, it's a huge

country. They have deep pockets, lots of resources, and they're working around the clock to steal our secrets of other secrets, as well as potentially planted ransomware and other types of backdoors of software into systems so that they cannot only steal trade secrets to military secrets, you know, steal money, cause chaos, create disruption and dissent in the United States, but in the event of an actual war, you know, cause chaos and shut the grid down,

turn off your transportation systems, turn their cars into weapons. I mean, it's really pretty insane. And for people that aren't paying attention to this and aren't taking this seriously, both from a perspective of what am I doing as an individual to try to get more serious about cybersecurity and my impact on it, as well as what is my organization doing? Am I taking steps to defend against these things? You know, I'll quote now outbound or outgoing an

essay Director General Paul and I to Sony, cybersecurity is national security. That's where we're at with this stuff. And you know, yes, we have other adversaries like Russia and North Korea and Iran who have advanced capabilities. You know, these China, Russia, Iran in North Korea are kind of known as the the access of evil when it comes to cybersecurity. They all have

advanced capabilities. They're all hacking stuff all the time, but the Chinese have, you know, generally much larger capabilities, and as we continue to find out by uncovering these things, you know, have been very aggressive about this for a long time. It's it's a major concern in my mind from the standpoint of someday the grid just goes out, or someday the trains can't run, or the trucks to bring you your food won't work because of these kind

of ongoing operations. Well, you know, and you didn't even take into account how many billions of dollars we've spent reverse engineering alien technology. But that's another conversation for another time. We've got, yeah, about two minutes left, and just important for people to know when they install an app on their

phone, the things that are possible. A story about somebody who installed the top one hundred apps on his Android phone contacted Russia and China at night while he slept, and he wasn't even using the phone, right, Yeah, I think this is a really important story, Gary, Jeff, And it's

again good segue from everything we've talked about so far. So I have shared this story all over Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, et cetera, anywhere that I would be out on social media, because I think it's really insightful into why the less apps you have, the better. Going back to that first story about teams spending less time on their phone, the better, because you know, if you are installing a quote free unquote app right, you are

the product, you are not the customer. You are paying with your data, not money. That's how almost all of this stuff works. It's a surveillance capitalism model. And this researcher got a Samsung phone, basically wiped it out, set everything up, downloaded the top hundred apps from the Android store, and then you know, now he gave it all the permissions that asked

for. He gave all these things whatever they wanted, which is part of the problem of course, and then just let the phone run and watch it, you know, monitored what it was doing and the amount of data that the phone was sending back even though he wasn't actively using it, was just sitting there running with these apps installed, so you know, in the background,

they're silently doing their thing. O. For a three days time, six two hundred and ninety six different requests were made by this phone despite the fact that he wasn't using it. He has had these hundred apps installed. Data was being sent to Russia, data was being sent to China of course, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, you know the standard US tech

titans that are trying to collect as much data about you as possible. But think about that for a second two hundred ninety six times in the course of three days, even though the phone theoretically isn't being used, it's just sitting there turned on with all of it. Oh. So again, my advice is the less apps you have, the better. You should check out the privacy label. Go to the Apple App Store and check out the privacy label for any app before you download it. In many cases it will be shocking

if you really understand what they're asking for. And and then you know, less apps better, less time on these devices better. You know, any app that is potentially sending your data offshore somewhere is not going to be helpful to you and our national security in the long run. And if you can leave your damn phone at home, do it. Dave Hatter, Yeah, thank you, my friend, always my pleasure. Gary Jeh, thank you.

All right, you got it. Reverend Jim Harden coming up after the news break, Reds fans, now is the time you get your twenty twenty four season tickets so you don't miss a most pregnancy center and just women all over the country and in their clinics, mainly in New York right now. But we'll get into that in a moment. Who are in pregnancies that they didn't expect. And this is definitely an alternate to, you know, aborting your baby, murdering your baby in the womb. The folks at Compass Care

are doing wonderful work and this is the man behind it all. Reverend Jim Harden, good evening. Welcome again to the Nightcap. Reverend good evening, thanks for having me back. In Jeremiah one to five, God says, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you before you were born. I sanctified you. How can the people behind IVF and behind abortion get around what we regard to as truths, Biblical truths, and that, you

know, it kind of kind of pops their balloon. If you're a Bible believing person and you read that verse in chapter one of Jeremiah, then you understand that God views every human life as a human life, not a fetus. And the conversation about IVF has been strong ever since the Alabama State Supreme Court made their ruling a few weeks back. Explain first, Reverend Harden, what the Alabama State Supreme Court ruling on IVF in vitro fertilization said and what

it didn't say just an over the Yeah, this quick overview. What they said was that unborn children are children for the purposes of Alabama's wrongful depth of a minor Act, which means that the two couples that filed a lawsuit against the fertility clinics for accidentally destroying their embryos can be held liable for the death of a child. And this is a groundbreaking moment in jurisprudence in America because if this goes to the US Supreme Court, then the concept of personhood is

on the docket. That means that the abortion industry would go away overnight if the Supreme Court decides with the Alabama Supreme Court, which basically says, look, you've got to treat all children, no matter what their stage of life or where they're located in or out of the room, as protected under the law from the moment of fertilization. This is huge. This is a massive a decision that could have major ramifications on a multi billion dollar international business and

that's including IVF. Now, IVF, the reason why IVF is such a so key here is because they create EMBRSS. The in virtual fertilization is third party assistant refuting technology that creates human embryos for the purpose of helping women who are having problems getting pregnant. And what most you know, deep in the race for people to want to have children, and that's a good thing. But what most people don't realize is the unethical nature of how IVF process works.

The IVF process actually creates embryos and then intentionally destroys those embryos at certain parts or in the idea of process. There's in fact two particular moments when human embryos are intentionally destroyed in the beginning if they don't meet certain criteria for the purposes of what they would consider viability of the fetus or the embryo.

And then once the woman gets pregnant and they're let's just say that she's got multiples that actually implanted in her uterus, then they call it reduction quote unquote reduction, which is abortion as we commonly understand it. So those two points

are intentional destructions of human embryos. But there's other other points in the IVF process where human embryos are destroyed accidentally, and that includes the freezing process of embryos that are not used and right now of course, most of those embryos don't survive the freezing process. But right now there are six hundred thousand embryos

that are frozen unused without wombs to be placed in. I think those those embryos need to be placed for adoption in willing wombs, one at a time, and the IVF process needs to be slowed way down so people can understand what's really happening. We've got a moral problem in America where our technology is outpacing our morality. We've got to take a step back and really discuss what it means to be human and whether or not we should be engaging in these

kinds of reproductive assistant technologies or in this way. I want to focus real quickly, and we've talked about it before, Reverend Harden, but I want to focus in our last few minutes together what your mission is at Compass Care, and so what you're doing right now around the country and how that's growing.

Oh, thank you very much. You know, if people want to learn more about how Compass Care is saving women and babies from abortion in the abortion capital of the United States, which is New York and a post Dobbs America, you can go to two x dot life. That's two x dot life simple, were you to go to compasscarecommunity dot com. We are essentially when a woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, she says, I'm stuck, I'm trapped. I've got no other choice. I need to have an abortion.

And our job is to come alongside her with all the ethical medical care and comprehensive community support that she needs in order to be able to say no to abortion, to do it for true choice, empower her with the ability to say no to abortion, and for free. All of our services are for free. She doesn't pay anything, and we're providing services ethical alternatives where women

typically don't have. I mean, there's no shortage of abortion in New York State, New York State, New York City, Brooklyn, we have a medical office in Brooklyn. It's the only pro life medical office in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is the There are more abortions in the County of Brooklyn than any other care bounty in America, and we're the only ones providing services. Also, we provide telecare. If you know somebody that anywhere in the country or anywhere

in the world, we provide. We provide telecare services to connect a pro a woman with a pro life nurse within twenty four seconds of her online search. Once she finds out she's pregnant, we are there for her and can connect her with services directly in her area to help her have her baby. So we are saving lives all across the country. We're trying to save twice as many lives this year as last year. You know, this is a different world. When roversus way was overturned two years ago June, you know,

the abortion industry had to change their business model. They had to go to a hub and spoke business moddel and rely heavily on chemical abortion and send these dangerous drugs to women in pro life states. And you know, we're very concerned about this. The Supreme Courts picking it up and hearing all arguments in a week from now. Walgreens and CBS have joined the Biden administration and starting to sell these drugs. They cause sepsist and hemorrhaging and one in ten

women and up the emergency room. And yet it's being towered to say for them talent all, this is a war, but it's a war of ideology and they're using They're putting women and children on the altar of this war, and it needs to stop. We need to we need to stop, and there's specifically a Women's Health Month March. We need to stop and take a take a step back and say what is the what are we doing to America's women and children through abortion? And so that's that's what Compass cares all about,

all right. And and the abortion industry, of course is making money off the death of human babies and the the mangling of women. And how many cases result after an abortion of a woman being infertile or not being able to have babies or making them more difficult later on in life. Oh yes, well abortion women. Many people don't understand is that abortion creates demand for

in mutual fertilization because abortion does create infertility issues. You know, if a woman has an abortion, she increases her risk of future pre term deliveries by fifty five percent. And there's a dose effect where every abortion a woman has and increases her risk of future pre term deliveries. And a pre term delivery causes mobidity and mortality of course, death of the child, and and and so you know perforated uterus PEBLC inflammatory disease which causes internal scarring, which causes

ectopic pregnancies, which can cause death. All these things happen to women because of abortion, and they're not being told. There's no informed consent going on, which is of course why a lot of reasons why women need or think they need IVF to help them get pregnant. So yeah, this is this is chronic. It's terrible. All you have to do is look at the black community. The Black community is fourteen percent of the nation's population, and

yet there's forty percent four zero percent of the abortion burden. And you look at the morbidity and mortality rates for eternity and it's through the roof because it's directly correlated to abortion. Well, you know, Planned Parenthood formed originally by Margaret Sanger who wanted to eliminate inferior people from the gene pool. Uh.

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not especially good. Surprise, surprise, Roco. How you doing, Oh well, I'm doing great because I didn't get the so called vaccine slash gene therapy that the that about three quarters of the United States. God. But there is some very troubling news. There's a there's some researchers out there, a genomic A researcher, Kevin McKernan came out and and published. It's in a preprint, so it's not being peer reviewed just yet. But it's some

damaging news. For you know, the whole vaccine hesitancy thing, because uh, in the beginning. What's what's very very strange is that in the beginning, there were many researchers, doctors and scientists that said that that the m R and a vaccine technology may contaminate or or or what they call integrate with DNA and uh, and all the fact checkers, everybody and you know, all over social media, all over the media said that, no, that's

impossible, there's there's no way that that can ever happen. I remember, I remember all of this very well, and I was and even the fact checkers, who we now know were mostly just puppets of the pharmaceutical insure industry and the government. Of course, they said there's no way this could happen, but they did not have science on their side. Apparently, well snoop was no, no, I don't. I don't want anybody to mention that organization again, it has proven to be a leftist It's it's not what it

started out to be. Let's put it that way. When it comes to actually checking on facts, it's become uh, it's become integrated a tool of the lives. Yeah, and a tool of big government, big pharmaceuticals, and a tool of the left. Absolutely, Snopes. Do not come at me with Snopes do for your fact checking ever, because you're not getting valid fact checking from Snopes. Okay, so let's go back to the you said.

At the beginning, lots of people, scientists, doctors who had studied mRNA vaccines, including some of the inventors of mRNA vaccines, were out there. Yeah. I was one of the first ones that said that it could be. But then but you know, so what happened on m kernin I was like, you know what, we really have to see this under like

microscope. And so what happened was they they tried this on cancer cells I'm blessed and the ovarian cancer cells, and when they integrated it, they found that the fifty percent of the cells had had the spike protein a DNA in the cells, so fifty percent of them got actually integrated with the vaccine and despite protein was on the surface of the cells. Now a lot of people say, oh, well that's rare. Well, you know what, a cancer to tell you, the truth when it comes to a fruition is actually

pretty you know, a pretty rare. We're seeing we're seeing cancer though add an alarming rate, and they're calling it something that no one has ever heard before, like twenty twenty one and they call it turbo cancer. Now turbo cancer. And also the findings of of Kevin mccernin, we want to we're seeing that that a cancer is absorbing this and now proliferating. Now, yeah,

it may be rare, but it's still happening. And we never ever ever thought in a million years that this that any that any medicine or that any medication would actually cause something h like this to happen so rapidly, because like we said, yeah you guys, Jeff No, I'm listening, go oh yeah. Well, like we've said before, we all have a cancer in US. We live with cancer every single day because of the of the e MPs, because of the foods that we eat, the exposure to toll

all the elements, to chemicals, the toxins that we become across. And now if you put if you put something like this medication or this our gene therapy into your body and you have uh, you know, like some cancer cells, it can now proliferate that and that's not you know, we don't want that because our key cells and our U natural killer cells are made innately to kill those cancer cells, and now you're accelerating something with a chemical that's

absolutely insane. It isn't no. But you know what, Rocco, you will not You will not hear even that that study has been conducted. I bet you, even after it's been peer reviewed, you will not hear that study talked about or disseminated on MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, d AP, you, New York Times, maybe the Washington Post, probably not CNN. You won't hear that that study has been conducted and that they've showed that there's a possibility of the COVID nineteen vaccine actually integrating with your

DNA inside cancer cells and accelerating that. You will never hear that anywhere else. And that's why it's a godsend for me to have you, so you can tell everyone the truth. Roka, Well, but everybody you know, and the and here's the thing. Nobody even wants to dig a little tiny bit, you know, a below of the surface. And what was really really cool about this was that that a mccernain didn't want to well, he wanted to make sure that it wasn't just some some eerra or some random thing

that happened. So so he did the DNA sequencing several times and found the exact same chromosomes were being affected, and that was a chromoson nine and chromosone twelve. Well, listen, I'm at chromoson thirteen right now, which means I gotta go. Thank you, Rocco Costellano. Fitness trainer Biohecker trained with Roco dot com and our national anthem to Clode