2-20-24 The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker

Good em and welcome to the nightcap. I'm seven hundred WLW four Tuesday night, February twenty and twenty twenty four, Gary Jeff Walker, sitting down, checking in, ready to dig in, and I hope you're going to be around for all three hours tonight, because between now and the stroke of midnight, we have Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration Studies, it's the number one issue among voters as we head into the twenty twenty four presidential election and

the congressional elections. Everybody in this country who is a citizen and actually legal able to vote, cares about the illegal hoard, the invasion that has been coming across our southern border and our northern border and into airports around the country, unchecked, unfettered since Joe Biden took office by design, by his executive pen, the commander in chief for the demented, potted plan in chief, whatever you want to call the current president of the United States of America has

done this on purpose, he says, throwing his hands up. There's nothing he can do without Congress Act, without more money, without more resources. All he has to do is reverse everything he did on day one in twenty twenty one when he had the power behind that executive desk. Todd Bensman from the Center from Immigration Studies. I've been talking to him now for about five or six years. He's been on the case on the border and he has

the latest updates. They're not good. But also what could be done very quickly, very easily, if Joe Biden and Majorcis at all chose to do something for the American people instead of against the American people, which they've been doing every day since they've been in power. Also, we will have the wild Man. Wild Man Walker joins us on a Tuesday night part of an hour I call sports for the out of Sorts. He will be joined by

our friend the fur Ball as well before the show is done. Tonight Lee hbib who is a host of Our American Stories, which is a fantastic series of views look it up online Our American Stories. Every week they focus on a different American story and he has one to tell us about tonight and also his views on the current goings on in the country. Rocko Costelano is back and as a special guest, we have Art Volo, Radio's best friend.

This guy knows almost everybody in my business, even me, and we'll sit down and have a conversation for American history on the radio before we're done with this nightcap. Up next, Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration Studies, author of the book Overrun, which we've been watching in real time as tens of thousands of illegal invaders are crossing into this country unchecked and have been every single day of the Biden administration because of what Biden has done and his administration

may not be Joe's doing, but he's the instrument. He's listening to people who are telling him to do this. This is not an accident. Todd Benjman coming up next here on seven hundred wlw Ohio. Ready for some quick

mental health facts. Let's go as I promised you moments ago. Todd Benchman from the Center for Immigration Studies, the author of Overrun, which is an app description and actually I don't know if it even fits the villain anymore for what's been happening with our immigration in this country, the illegal immigration that has been allowed to go on, unfettered, unchecked by the Joe Biden administration ever since he took office. First off, Todd, good evening, It's great

to have you on the show. Good to be back, Good to be back. All right, it's been a while since we've talked Todd you. How long have you been with the Center for Immigration Studies? How long have you been charting this and bringing back reports? Five years with Center for Immigration Studies and almost ten years before that with the Texas Department of Public Safety, Intelligence and counter Terrorism Division, doing a lot of work on the border.

Yeah. I think our conversation started about five years ago, and at the time you were touting your newest book, America's Covert Border War. I never know how I never knew how bad that this border war was going to be. But it's not just along our southern border. If that's not bad enough, if the millions who have come through just in the last three years alone

aren't bad enough. I saw an interview with you a few weeks back with Marie Bartiromo on Fox Business News, and you are one of the foremost voices because you're on the border and you've gone south of the border. You've talked to these groups of people who are coming here illegally unfettered. Yes, but not just that, but these illegal immigrants are being allowed to fly in from

out of the country into airports without any security checks. And I guess that should make everyone who's ever flown on a flight and had to take their shoes off or prove who they were just to go from point A to point B a little steamed, I would think. But tell me about what's going on there. And these aren't even in the official numbers of border encounters obviously, because they're not being encountered at the border. They're being counted by TSA and

just being let into the country. Tell me about that. Yeah, that's true. So you know, most people who follow the border or read about it, especially casually, just know about the ones that are crossing through the through the woods, through the brush, through the desert, not at a

point point court of entry. Those are illegal crossings and apprehensions. But the Biden administration wanted to reduce those numbers, so they created a program where people can pre schedule their illegal entries on a phone app and apply for a crossing at a bridge, and also to apply for travel by air. And so

these are both going on. Hundreds of thousands, probably six hundred seven hundred thousand people who would have crossed between the ports of entry through the brush and forests, have been brought in quietly and sight unseen over the land bridges the ports of entry, and have been flying into as near as we can tell, forty three different US airports they land, and then they just meld in with everybody else, and you can't tell them from a difference from them from

anyone else. Right, So those people are flying from foreign airports. We don't know which ones, but we do know at least two hundred and fifty thousand have been flown into the United States from foreign airports from probably eight different national eight different countries. I don't believe that we are able to sufficiently vet them before we fly them anywhere, because a lot of the countries that are

coming from have really pre modern systems. You know, it's not very easily checked to see what their criminal history is or if they're on tarawaka or whatever. And that's kind of that problem, as well as the fact that they're flying into all of our cities and nobody knows it. In your opinion, does the Department of Homeland Security may Orcus the secretary of the DHS, does he have do they have a case that he has broken the law? Repeatedly.

But is it because he's doing exactly what he's being told to do by the Biden administration. That's the thing people act like in Congress when they're talking about the impeachment of Mayorcus. They act like he's doing this unilaterally, you know, on his own, and like this is his idea. This is obviously not his idea. This has been the template for what the Biden administration had planned all along, from the moment they took office and took power.

So as far as the efforts to impeach may Orcus, I mean that, really it's not going to make a difference unless it's turned around from the up administration, right right. Uh So, nobody really knows yet the inner power structure, No, nobody knows. Nobody knows who's in charge. Nobody really

knows. But I have been watching this closely for years now, three years, and I believe just just on got and circumstances surrounding my Orcus and the way the president, we know that the president governs, that he's probably acting on his own. Oh well, you think so, I don't. I don't think Biden is aware of the minutia of what's going on. He probably gets some reports, but he's kind of like, just do what you want to do, do what you need to do. And my Orcus comes from

an open borders ideology. He was a board member of highest one of the biggest, one of the nation's biggest refugee and the immigrant resettlement nonprofits, one of the biggest and oldest. He was on the board at the time he was nominated, and they congratulated the publicly and everything else. He is from that ideology, and I think he's carrying out the ideology for all of the

people that support him and are in his society. When he was nominated, I wrote a lengthy profile on my Orcus and learned all about his views from when he was with he led USCIS and was in government. He sent all

sorts of ethical and broblios. He's been investigated for a variety of ethical problems, and he is definitely an open borders, no borders guy, and he's in charge of this and I believe that he is the one who is flouting the laws and then telling the boss, Hey, everything's going great now, So I mean, yeah, then maybe there is a definite case to impeach him, but they're just going to replace him with somebody who maybe worse.

Todd, that's what exactly a good point. I mean, you know that the impeachment is one thing, but if you actually remove him, you don't really know what you're gonna get. You still have the same boss. He's

kind of like laisse fair, do what you want. In my opinion, I think that's what's going on. Speaking of Todd Benzman from the Center for Immigration Studies and the author of Overrun, President Biden has said over and over again that he can he's done all he can do with executive authority to secure the border. It's a lie. Here are the authorities, and explain each one of these. It just in brief, if you will, Todd, presidential authority to restrict entry two twelve f. This has been on the books,

what since the fifties? Is that right? Yeah? The president can shut that border down whenever you don't have to bargain it away. I mean he's trying to bar he was trying to bargain that power away. Well, I'll use it if you let me have five thousand a day come in to legally. But you know, really he can shut the border down. He can turn away one hundred percent of every immigrant that they catch without providing a chance to claim asylum. And that's it and it's over. It's like in

two hours, the whole thing's over. This is this is low go ahead? Yes? Please? No, Well, I mean I'm just saying that. You know, even even in the Senate deal that just that just it was never clarified what what he or they meant by you know, after a certain point, if it gets at hand, we will close the border. Does that mean they were going to use TO twelve F or something else?

And how would we have known to force compliance? Right? Like, there were never any details about this expedited removal two thirty five B one what is that? And that's that just means that if you're you're crossing illegally, you go back, right, that's Title eight. That is the authority that is in use now, but it's not being carried out in a way that actually

removes anybody. So if you if you're found to not be eligible for asylum, you you will be placed at your released and then placed in expedited removal proceedings. And that's it. You're just placed in the proceedings. You're not actually rounded up and removed and so so that's what's going on with expedited removal. And you'll hear this all the time. We are putting thousands and thousands of people in expedited removal. Everybody is subject to expedited removal under our plan,

under right, But nobody gets removed because they let them go. They don't keep them detained. And if you don't have them in detention, then you have to go run them down somewhere. And there's millions of them now, all in expedited removal proceedings, and your ice officers are under orders not to go track anybody down. Yeah, they're not being allowed to do their job, that's right. So that if the whole thing is a misnomer, uh you know, we we everybody is subject to I put air quotes around,

subject to expedite a removal? Great, so what no if you're not who cares if you're subject to expetited removal? But most Americans don't recognize that there's a big difference between being subject to expedita removal and actually being expedited removed just not happening. Well, and apparently there is some little deal that Biden has struck with the country of Mexico, where the Mexican government is moving some of these people from the north part of their country to the south, but

just delaying the entry. I guess is that is that the way you see it? Yes, that I think I'm may be the only one in the country who's been reporting on that. There may be somebody else may have finally gotten around to acknowledging it. I might have seen it in the New York Times now, but it is happening that the Biden minister. I wouldn't say

it's even the Biden administration. I think it's the Biden political campaign. Saw those fifteen thousand a day numbers, ten twelve thousand a day coming through the brush in November and December, and saw that they were driving the poll numbers

way down. So they so they sent Biden down to Mexico City to kind of deal with Mexican President Manuel Lopez Obador and lo and behold, like at the very end of December, the Mexican sent their army out and also their navy and everybody just went out and started rounding up tens of thousands of immigrants from the northern cities and forcing them onto buses and planes and shipping them fifteen hundred miles to the south of Mexico and trapping them down there behind roadblocks.

And that's still going on. That operation is going on, and that is at Biden's behest. My Orchis went down there with Anthony Blincoln after the first presidential visit, and by January one, they were rounding them up by the thousands. It's a massive operation. Huge. They shut down the cargo trains

that were carrying free riders, thousands and thousands of free riders. They shut those down for the first time in three months, I mean three years, sorry, And the numbers have fallen from the twelve thirteen, fourteen thousand a day range to four thousand and five thousand a day, which is still high, but it's low enough that the media went away. So ten thousand, I guess it's the threshold for international media coverage and bad polling. But four

and five thousand a day no longer attracts media daily media attention. And that is what has gone going on down there now well what we probably don't have time to fully get into it. But I also wanted to mention that these NGOs that are responsible and working with the cartels to bring all these illegal people into our country are a big problem, and I think that people should take note when they donate to certain charities, they should know whether or not those

dollars or American tax dollars are going through those charities to make the problem worse. That is correct, is it not? That is correct? So you're referring to a couple of pieces I did last month, and I think earlier this month too, that the UN is with the United States Department of State

and USAID funneling hundreds of millions of dollars in US tax money. Two NGOs the form of grants, working with the United Nations to create way stations, aid stations all along the southern approaches to our border, so that nobody crossing our border, are traveling to our border will go without food, clothing, shelter, cash in the form of debit cards, and instructing them what to say when they get to the border, when they're encountered at the border,

that they ask solute speaking asylum because they're in fear for their lives. Todd Benjman, Center for Immigration Studies, Thank you so much for the time. It's been too long, and let's not make it as long again. I know you're a very busy man, but thanks for taking time for us tonight, any time for you let me know, all right, thank you, Todd Benjamin on the night cap up next, Radio's Best Friend, Art Volo. It is a good nightcap for this Tuesday evening on SEVENLW, and it

is another installment of what I call American history on the radio. And this guy has been recording that history and pretty much NonStop for the last forty five plus years with his art bolo videos of going to radio studios and videoing, videoing disc jockeys and talk show host and all the rest, and then packaging those for people's enjoyment. And he has been on the radio with us once before, and he joins us once again, Art Volo, Radio's best Friend.

How are you well? I'm packaging right, Oh yeah, fresh fresh, never pro right. Well yeah, I just got done. Gary Jeff doing a thing for a group called Sore Sar. A group of people who get on like a couple of hundred people get on a big zoom call. They get some kind of a quote unquote expert on a particular topic and they asked questions and the topic was radio old radio. They wanted about old radio, and who knows more about old radio than old guy like me, And

they were trying to stump me, and we never did stump you. And I said, well, good, I'm glad because I would have been embarrassed if you asked a question I didn't know the answer to. Yeah. One of the things that you were discussing, among others, was how radio programs, the entire program used to be sponsored by one sponsor. And this goes

back to the early days of TV and radio. I mean today, Oh yeah, we got five or six minutes of sponsors that will come up after this interview is over, and all different, you know, Yeah, turf Way Park, Loan Proano, I know, I mean medical. Right in the old days of radio, you were always told you you don't run the Ford dealer right after the Chevy dealer commercial. You don't put the McDonald's spot right after the Burger King spot, you know. I mean. Now I'm

hearing lawyer commercials for competing law firms, one after another. I mean it's ridiculous. Well that is that is proof proof once and for all that lawyers get paid way too much money for what they do, way too much that's right. You pay nothing unless we win. And what they don't tell you is then if we win, we're going to take eighty percent of it, right, right, exactly, that's the I mean, honestly, God, nothing makes me hit the mute button on TV faster than when I see a

lawyer commercial. And we have a bazillion of them. I'm sure you're doing Cincinnati, sure do. And I'm sure people all across the country that might be listening to this program are all shaking their heads saying, God, we're so sick of a lawyer commercial. Well that end that, and that in the Medicare and life insurance commercial as well. You can throw those in the

same basket. So Art Volo, in all of your time, you started in nineteen seventy five doing the video, seventy nine doing video, But before that I was doing a lot of audio recording of a lot of great radio stations. Yeah, well, who was your market? I mean, how did you make any money doing that? Well? I didn't do it to make money. I did it because I love doing it. I mean,

they did a story on me in the Chicago Tribune. I remember a number of years ago of the man who put a face on the faceless medium. And that's kind of what I did. I tried to put, you know, put a face on radio because we'd be we're such a visual people. Now, I mean, there are so many radio shows that are now on TV by way of the Internet. They're not on TV TV, but they're on TV by way of the Internet. They're they're being streamed, yes,

streamed exactly. And and excuse my ego, but I'm taking credit for some of this because I was doing it before anybody. I mean, I always tell people that it's right on the front page of my website, which is called Volo Video dot Com. And all you got to remember is there is a you that is not pronounced, but there's a U after the V. So it's v u O l O video dot com all one, all one

line. So and when you when you read about how it was a guy named Shotgun Tom Kelly, who is a very popular radio personality, uh on the West Coast. He did like twenty years in LA. He's got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and interestingly, his star is right next to the star of the real Don Steele, who was another tremendous LA person who he succeeded. He never says replaced, because he always said, you don't replace a giant personality like the real Don Steele was. So he

feels like he succeeded him, and that's exactly what he did. And the staris are right next to one another. And if you live, if you live in this area in Cincinnati, you may not know the names of real Don Steelers, Shotgun Tom Kelly, you know, unless you're a subscriber to Sirius xm as I am. I hate to admit that, but there's a lot of radio people that are. But these are legends in the business,

and you're right. For most people, they're mostly just faceless voices that are out there in the gather and you were right, and people like to see you know, you know what we call reading the body language. You can really tell a lot about people by watching their facial expressions, their gestures and what have. You can tell whether they're out, they're really enjoying what they're

doing or not. And mostly in the place for personality radio, except for a talk station like seven hundred WLW, you know, where you have personalities throughout the day. I mean, I mean, you know, obviously you're you're one of the one of the top guys. But I'd say the top

guy in town is Bill cunning At. I mean, you know, I mean, everybody knows Bill cunning At and I and I'm proud to say I got him on TV when they were they were booking I think it was a Geraldo Rivera show years ago, and they were looking for outrageous talk show hosts, and I got Willie on that show. They didn't throw any chairs that day, though it was it was pretty tame by their standards, you know. But that's isn't that funny? But that's that's the way. That's the

way it goes, you know. But but the most personality you'll find on most radio stations that are not like new talk stations are going to be on in the morning. Sure, yeah, their morning shows. And I started out back in nineteen eighty four videotaping the Bob and Tom Show, which is carried in Cincinnati and in many cities around the country. And they my videos

caught the eye of a gentleman named Sean Compton. And Sean is a guy who started at the Big One and under the tutelage of a name everyone knows Randy Michaels, and so he saw this and said, boy, this is really cool. Let's put this on WG and America, which at the time was an independent Channel nine in Chicago, which was carried on many, many,

many cable systems throughout the nation. And when that ran out, they had all these cameras in the studio in their home station in Indianapolis and said, why don't we use these and keep the show on and we'll just stream it on the internet. And that's what they're doing. And now it's on YouTube free to where anybody any morning can go on YouTube and just type in the bottom time shown they can watch it. So and then then there's a a couple of guys called Free Beer and Hot Wings up in Grand Rapids.

There's a show down in West Palm Beach called the KDJ Show Kevin Virginia and Jason Uh. There's a really cool show in Tampa a guy named m J whose real name is Todd Schnitt. And when you have a nast name like Schnitt, boy, can you have some fun with that there? Well? Yeah, I mean, you know, to be on the Schnit list and it's good. So it's coming really close. You just get away with it. You just got to be careful not to schnit your pants. That's right,

that's that end. That end is in there, you know. But honest to god, he's got a camera on himself and three other cameras on the three other people. I'm and he plays maybe one record an hour, maybe two at the most. That's it. Everything else's talk well, because it's entertainment. I've worked with I've I've worked I've had the great opportunity and the great pleasure of working with many of these just standout personalities, like Bill

Cunningham, like Willie, like like Gary Burbank when he was here. But tell you what, Gary Burbank would have been a prime candidate for that because of all of his different characters, you know, from Earl Pitts to Gilbert Gnarley to Big to all of those characters. Gary and Gary would have gladly gotten into costume for you and done done the One of my most priceless videos is when he did a big the Big Earl Pitts for Governor a rally at

the Huge to Paul Brewery Cincinnati. I'll never forget that. That was on the midday show in the midday show in those days was hosted by Mike McConnell out morning mornings on WLW and and and who in Randy Michaels. Yeah, Randy and Mike were doing the midday show together. He was all dressed up. I even have him being made up backstage on video and it was just great. You know, I'm gonna kiss the babies, and he goes over and kisses the nice looking mother of the baby. Instays of the baby.

You know he was. I just saw Gary. He's living down in Florida, not far from o'calla kind of north of Orlando. He's living on a nice clean river that you can see down to the bottom, a spring fed and I said, Gary, I've been in swimming pools. Not this good. Imally, it was really he's fantastic. He's he's uh, he's suffering a little from the memory loss and some things like that. He's got some health challenges. But he sure knew who I was and we had a good

time. So he's still still with us, going strong. Another one of the personalities before I got to Cincinnati that I worked with, and he's also no longer with us. Sadly was a guy named Coyote McLeod oh yeah, who had who had worked, I guess in in Louisville, but then worked

in Nashville. And he was our morning guy at the Landmark Landmark station I worked at in the late eighties and early nineties called Y one O seven, which was that's right, And I had video of him with Rhett Walker, who was this newsman no relation to you, and UH and a guy named Mark Chase who turned out to be a big executive with iHeartMedia and I Heart Radio and UH and the guy pulling the pulling the tapes in the and and the mean kind of the grug boy. The guy named Tim Dukes is now

the general manager of a big Christian station in Dallas. He's with Way FM. Yeah, I've talked to I've talked to Timmy. I worked with Mark Mark. You know. Actually the reason I have a career, a big part of it has more to do with Mark Chas than it does with me. And I worked with Coyote and Rhett and all those people there in Nashville. And I also there weren't a whole lot of big names that came out of this first station that I worked at first major station I worked at,

which was KZY one O six in Chattanooga. But it was a blast one hundred thousand and one FM stick and a guy named Eric Page who I would wind up working with in Nashville and here in Cincinnati. In fact, Eric is the one who developed the name inside Pitch for our Red's pregame show. And the Reds are on the radio again here in just a little while. It's baseball on the radio. I love that jingle. That's really cool. And I'm not that big a baseball fan, but i love that jingle.

But yeah, well, Chatt Neudy, you can see, you know, you can see seven state trum Rock Mountain. That's what they say. Rock City, I think the I think the seventh state is and if you look here, you can see the skies over over Alabama. So you can see the skies over Alabama from from that vantage point at Rock City. Yes. Well, yeah, Cayune was a great guy, and on my video he did a bit that I've never heard anybody do before or since, and that's

to gargo the national anthem. You put water in your mouth and you try and sing the national anthem with water in your mouth and and and I don't know if you're gonna have to beleep me on this, but I'll never forget you. No, no, don't, don't. Don't do anything that might be a bleep. No, no, no, it was. It was not that bad, you know, because when you got gargling, you know the biggest problem what it is. And he he said, well, I'm going for the last one because she swallowed. But it was a very funny

line. And in the studio that day, just happened to be in town promoting his new book, was Davy Jones of the Monkeys, and he was promoting a book called They Made a Monkey out of Me, which was just great. So it was a wonderful video. I got to do it. Well, this is this is like six degrees of separation, Kevin Bacon this conversation because I interviewed Davy Jones when he was here in when he was here

in town for Octoberfest. He was leading the Chicken Dance that year at Octoberfest, and he came into my studio when I was on the Fox, and I still have that picture on my mantle at home with me and Davy Jones and a guy named Rob Brigsby who brought Davy in. Davy was a fantastic guy and it was six months later that he was dead or yeah. Well it was a very small fraternity. Everybody knows everybody, and we have been

losing a lot of our friends these days. And that's what I'm doing mostly is using all these videos I've been shooting over the last forty five years. I've been using them for memorials that I post on YouTube or Vimeo or wherever. As we lose a lot of the great talents that people grew up listening to on the radio. I mean, it's an era gone by, and it's a shame because a lot of the young people, you know, they don't listen to radio as much. And it's a shame because I have a

totally totally different connection with it than people like you and I did. Art. I'm sorry, our time is up and it's been more than ten Well you got to get that mule of the buzzer time. It's been more than ten minutes. Okay, Art, Volo Radio's best friend Volo video dot Com. I love you too, brother, thank you so much. It's the Nightcap and it continues on seven hundred W if you're in Hardy, Kentucky,

there's the McCoy family Cemetery which is owned by a Hatfield. But unless you can prove you're a blood relation, you are not allowed in darn it. But you can always listen to the seven hundred WLW live stream wherever you are on the iHeartRadio app. Body Armors zero sugar is made with real sweeteners and real flavor with zero sugar and zero grams of carbs. Body Armor zero Ery Jeff Walker at the Helm And in this hour Sports for the Out of Sorts,

we have the one and only Dennis wild Man Walker with us. And in next half hour, your good friend Dennis wild Man Andy Furman will will harp in and we'll see how you too are either congruent or mismatched. Back to back Man, back to bat. I hope you can handle it. Back to back. Sports for the out of Sorts is what I like to call this. First and foremost. I just found out that, among other things, just to you know, keep food on the table, and this

is and a roof over your head. This is no bad thing at all. My wife drives Uber eats. You've been an Uber driver since twenty seventeen. I did not know that about you, Yeah, twenty seventeen here and there. You know. It's basically, you know, when I want to pick up a few extra bucks, you know, and I'd like doing it. I drive during the day and then I'll go out when when we go to the time change when there's more light, and I'll go out the like

after six o'clock. I do not work the night shift. I do not pick up drunks. I don't need to do any of that. And I got a couple of small stories, but it's mostly people recognize my voice once they get in the car. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. But other than I don't really have any wacky stories. Now, my son did because he did it. He did it. I went picking up drunks a few years ago. Boy, he had some wacky stories. Well,

I mean, and the thing is, it's your own private car. You don't want people puking in your car or going to the bathroom in your car. I mean, that's the last thing i'd want my wife exactly. My wife only drives during the daytime she delivers, not carrying people around. Because I wouldn't advise that any time of the day. I don't know how you do that, but but you know, she only does it for a couple

three hours in the middle of the day at lunchtime or whatever. And you know, occasionally there are some really rude people, and there are some really rude restaurants that she picks stuff up from, but that's the only really. She did get towed once in Clifton, and that was in the space of about two minutes. She went to pick up food and didn't realize she was in a toeaway zone near the UC campus. And I said, from that point forward, yeah, I said, from that point forward, Yeah,

you don't have to pick up anything in Clifton, honey. And you're not that desperate because the tow bill was about eighty dollars and we had to pay that to get it out that day. So yeah, we steer clear of Clifton whenever possible in all things. And I think that's whyse advice, don't you. Well you mentioned about like that, you know, you wouldn't really want to be picking up people. Well, I'm not. I'm not afraid of picking up people because I have a friend with me at all time.

His name is Smith and Wesson, so he's always with me when I go pick up people. Very nice. It's always good to have a co pilot. Yes, yes, So the NBA I am, and I am and I am registered, so you know it's all legal. Well, I wouldn't expect anything less from you, Dennis. You've always been exact, upstanding, law abiding citizen. Damn right, I am, even at one o'clock in the morning at Annie's. So anyways, NBA All Star Weekend just finished. I didn't see any of it. I just it's not my cup of tea.

If I wanted to watch teams just run up and down the court and score. I mean, to me, people say, oh, it's exciting. Look at all all the athletic talent. I said, what I mean, They're running up and down the court by themselves. There's no one around them to play defense. You know, first one to two hundred wins. Whoo, I'm not excited about that. You I always watch it just to see some of the acrobatic you know, dumk shots and whatnot, and maybe

some the three pointers. But in this game, you got, you got so much. It was was it was just out of control. There was no defense. These guys were traveling, not at how many times. Two eleven to one eighty six. Okay, I was the score, two hundred and eleven to one eighty six. They oh, this is gonna blow your mind. They threw up one hundred and sixty eight three pointers. One hundred and sixty eight three pointers. Some of them came from Mars. I did

see sixty six, sixty six went in. I tuned in for about five minutes and I see these these just impossible shit being launched at will, and you know it's hitting the back of the rim and it's going about forty feet down the court or it was crazy. It was really really nuts. And so the East one the East one. Yeah, yeah, the East one East beat the West. And they tried to they tried to change it up this year again, but it's fallen on deaf ears with the players. It's

obvious. I mean, the commissioner, I think it was expecting, you know, some effort out of these guys. I'll tell you what. He was really embarrassed, who probably you know, maybe embarrassed and probably laughing their asses off. Where Larry Bird and Oscar Robertson, who were introduced before the game, because you know they're in they're Indiana Natives. And then you know, I know Larry was sitting by himself and Oscar was sitting by himself.

But those two guys walked out onto the court, and I mean Reggie Miller said this was the greatest point guard ever and put his arm around Oscar. But they had to, you know, watching this like what is what are we watching here? I mean, it was bad and they need to get rid of it, or you know, start tell the players you've gotta play you know, a little defense, and I gotta you're gonna get the argument, well, we don't want to get hurt. Well, you get it.

You know, we talked about this before. When you try not to get hurt, that's when you do get hurt. Yep, I mean, uh, Trey Greenwell wasn't trying trying to get hurt when he snapped his achilles in the Super Bowl. He just he just brought a couple of steps. You can do that just taking a step, a simple step. If you're gonna get hurt, you're gonna get hurt. But yeah, when you try

not to get hurt, it increases the likelihood that you will. And the sad thing to me about it is and I haven't watched much NBA this year,

I haven't watched in several years. But when I do look in to the games, wild Man, it seems more and more like the regular season games are becoming more and more what the All Star Game has become just a NonStop rat race of no defense, bad offense with with nobody guarding them and just these shots launched from everywhere, no resemblance of the game that I grew

up watching or that I played for a short time. Yeah, the only time I really tuned in Gary is you know, when there's like rivalries, the Lakers and the Warriors are usually going to get a good matchup like that, or the Celtics against one of their foes. But when you get like the Oklahoma, Oklahoma and Phoenix, like nobody cares, you know, that's kind of stuff. You just see him throwing the ball up and not planning to end. No traveling calls ever. They never call walking ever ever.

I mean, Lebron walks every other time he's got the ball in his hands and they don't call it. Well. Steph Curry in the three point shooting contest to match up against Sabrina from the WNBA during All Star weekend, Steph just barely won twenty nine to twenty seven. Okay, I think I think Caitlin Clark from Iowa would have cleaned his clock. There is no better pure shooter in college basketball, in basketball all told, than that girl who plays

for the Hawkeyes, who is just a transcendent player. She's like the Michael Jordan of women's basketball. And I know you haven't watched, but I encourage you when you get an opportunity, watch the next Iowa Ladies Lady Hawkeyes basketball game and watch Caitlin Clark and the ease that she is just sinking these three

quarter you know, it's almost three quarter courts some of the time. She hit one from the logo in the game last week to break the women's all time scoring record, and she is on pace to pass Pete Merovitch for the all time record in all of college basketball and scoring. And unlike pistol Pete, she shoots a lot better than forty percent. The girl's amazing. I'm just telling you, wild man, it's I know, it's women's basketball,

it's college women's basket ball. Watch Kaitlin Clark. You will be entertained. That's my admonition. To you. What do you think wild Man? Hello, wild Man. Apparently we've lost wild Man. The thought of Caitlin Clark sent him into another stratosphere, and he is speechless. He is tongue tied. We will take a break and see if we can get wild Man back

on the phone. It's the nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Hey, lower mortgage rates are here in smart homeowners are white Telephone who obviously was tongue tied at the prospect of having his eyes bulge out watching Kaitlan Clark play college basketball for the University of Iowa, which, by the way, wild Man A couple of things here, and I'd brought this up a couple other times with a few other people because I think it's important to this discussion about greatness and

people from Iowa. Joe Burrow, Cincinnati, but he's franchise quarterback. Yeah, I know, Athens, Ohio. No no, no, no no. Joe Burrow born in Ames, Iowa, Okay. Caitlin Clark, who plays for the University of Iowa, now the all time women's scorer in college basketball, soon to be the all time scorer in all of college basketball, because she's just that good place for Iowa. Right there in Iowa City, fifty miles south of that campus, there is a town called Mount Pleasant,

Iowa. It's the county seat of Henry County, Iowa, and home of the Midwest Old Thrasher's Reunion every Labor Day weekend, which draws a quarter million people every year to the little town of nine thousand, where one Gary Jeff Walker was born. I knew you were leading up to that. I know it. Greatness, greatness, Greatness grows. Greatness grows in a state that has God's dirt, that rich black soil that grows. It's America's bread basket,

is what it is. I mean, you know to talking about soybeans and corn and hogs and the field the dreams man, the field of dream field, the dreams. That's right. Greatness comes from the Hawkeye State. And Caitlin Clark is an example. Will you make a pledge to at least watch one game of the Lady Hawkeyes with Caitlin Clark at the helm before she

finishes her outstanding career. And don't you think it's possible that a player like Caitlin Clark, and you'll know after you watch her, could rip Steph Curry a new one in a three point competition. I don't think Steph Curry was trying very hard. I think if he was pushed to the task, he would beat her, beat her like a drum. I'll talk of it with my people and all. Let my people know to your people whether I'll watch her play a full game or not. Okay, you don't even have to

watch a full game. Just watch about five six minutes. You'll be impressed. My man. I'm telling you, Oh, I've seen some video. Ever seen some video over ych She definitely gonna shoot the three pointer. Yeah, without a doubt. But Pete Merovich did not have the three point shot. Let's remember that Pete Maravich did not have the three point shot. I saw Pete Mayrivitch play, man. I saw him play at the gardens. I was there for a gamer. He scored forty six points, so I

know that guy could shoot. But you know, I'll give her a due. It's it's a great accomplishment, without a doubt. Pete Maravich in college, we're talking about college. In college, his dad was the coach, and Pete had the green light when he came out of the locker room. When you passed the ball to Pete Maravich in LSU. You didn't get the ball back because Pete Maravich was gonna shoot everything. And the LSU did not win. They did not they won. I said one. I said they

won. They didn't win the NCAA Championship. But they had a winning record when Pete was there. They did you record when Pete Maravich played? Oh, now you're going to look it up? Okay, I am well, I mean you just made this statement that they won. Well, I know they had a winning record when he was there, when he was a winning record? Okay, what does that mean? In college? You what a winning record means? So the Bearcats could finish? Well, you could say

the same thing about Larry Bird got the ball. When Larry Bird got the ball, what do you think he was shooting it? What did they win? They want nothing? Larry to the finals? That got beat. You know they got beat because he didn't have any other guys around him. Larry Bird could actually shoot four percentage. Pete Merrivich never shot for percentage. I'm telling you, I don't have to tell me a thing about Larry Bird pown because I saw him play from his You know all three years in Indiana State,

I saw Larry Bird. I know what Larry Bird could do. And here's the other thing about Caitlin Clark. Wild Man, while I just wanted you and k what's with you and Caitlin Clark? You got this fetish or something for Art Well, I'm I'm thrilled that she's women's college basketball player and she actually has all good for her. Let's move on to something else here. You're driving me crazy here. All right, what did you find out about Pete Meravis? The record overall the record at LSU. It didn't come

up quick enough and you interrupted me. All right, let's see anyway. Huh. By the way, Caitlin Clark had forty nine points and thirteen assists. Speaking of Larry Bird anyway, good for her. For the Bengals face some major decisions this offseason, and one of them being what to do with T Higgins, who's out of his rookie contract. They have to either sign him or franchise tag him. Uh. And it's important that Joe Burrow has t Higgins along with Jamar Chase. Don't you think you think what Joe Burrow

has already said? You know, he wants Tea that you know, to stay here. The Bengals today is today, that four o'clock, I believe is what teams can start franchising. Right. Bet you bet your house, bet your firstborn, bet everything you got. The Bengals are gonna franchise Tag t Higgins day. They've got the salary cap money to do it. That's

not gonna be that big a deal. They're not trading him. They're not trading him this year if he you know, because he's gonna have to have a good year, which you can, you know, leap frog to make more money as a free agent. But this year t Higgins gonna be back with the Bengals. Man, and you can bet the house. And why not, hey wild man, why not just sign him again to something that he likes because next year you can say, Jamar, we got you covered.

Jamar's under contract for another year. They don't have to do anything with Jamar Chase and Jamars and Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow are tied at the hip. He's not going anywhere. Yeah, you know, we don't know what's going on behind them, in the behind closed doors, whether they're talking with Tea about signing them, But I guarantee you he's gonna be with the team one way or the other, either with a long term contract or franchise tagging.

And all these dumb, stupid, ignorant Bengal fans that say, oh, let's trade him for a for a second round pick or let's trade them to so and so ain't gonna happen. I mean, they've got a good offense down there with these three guys. I mean, they got something going on. And Joe Burrow, I guarantee you has already, you know, put his put his two cents into saying, look, you better bring this guy back. So likewise, you tell Tyler board to take a walk,

right, I don't. I don't like to say that. I mean, he's been a very good player for the Bengals, but they I think it's time that his time is run out here and the money that he makes and he'll catch up with somebody else. But you can always find you a fourth receiver or a third receiver, you know, in the draft, because those guys seem to play really, really hard anyway. But Tyler Boyd's been a

great, great Bengal, he really has. I mean I would even almost argue that he could be in the in the Ring of Honor because he's been a you know, he never heard a word out of Tyler Boyd, even to the dark years down there. You just didn't. You didn't hear nothing bad from Tyler Boyd. He was He's been a good soldier and I would I hate to see him leave. But you've got to take care of the guys that are really really important, and one of them is t Higgins.

So I mean, do you, uh, what do you do with the running back position. I would keep Joe Mixon, I would. I would, and I would just rotate. I'd give the ball more to the other guy and then have Joe in there for maybe gold line situation. I think losing Joe Mixon would be it's gonna it's really gonna hurt the team. And if you see some comments about Joe Mixon, he's laughing at this that that you know that the Bengals are going to cut him because he don't think it's

going to happen. Wild Man, always a pleasure. Thank you for being a part of the Night Camp once again. And I have one more thing for you. Well, I want to before I go real quick, I want to thank you for your help and the Autism Rocks benefit out of fred Board Brewery on Sunday. I don't have all the numbers, but I know it was twenty thousand dollars plus autism phenomenal. Yeah, that was awesome. It was awesome. All I did was be a mouthpiece, and that's you

know sometimes that's a thing. What right, You got the word out? You got the word out? One thing? Wild Man Watch, Okay, I'm braced. Watch Caitlin Clark, Good night, Dennis Wildman Walker with US Sports for the Out of Sorts on seven hundred WLW The fur Ball coming up Sports for the Out of Sorts, joining in our old friend the fur Ball,

Andy Furman. That's right, the pre eminent sports voice in Cincinnati talk radio when it came to sports forever forever, and his career has been revived by me Gary Jeff Walker here on the Night Camp and also his forays on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. You'll hear him on Sunday mornings from six to nine, and he's in the same building with us. So I don't I feel like it's okay if I mention another station while I'm doing this show on this station. That's really big of me, though, Andy, that I would

share the stage for a further nomin My heart family. We're in the same I Heart Media family. I'm there with you. This'll be Hey. You've had others from other competing stations with you, so don't even go there me. I'm part of the family. So Andy had a question that he asked just before he went on. He said, does anybody get their temperature taken anally anymore rectally? And I said, I don't know, Andy, And he said, well, I might enjoy that. I'm not sure. Isn't

that what you said? No, I said that in this day and age, because we're talking about fevers and people getting temperature. I said, really, I think the rectal thermometers I could stink because you either take it under your tongue and I don't even do that anymore. They have that kind of gun they shoot at your forehead. Oh basically, wait, something in your

ear. We all became acquainted with the little gun they shoot at your forehead during the scamdemic during COVID because they want to make sure you didn't have a fever before you entered anywhere. When you were allowed to go anywhere. But don't get me started. So I already I don't want to get you start. So you do know you're in the minority with that, But that's okay. You know you're thinking in the minority, and that's fine. I mean,

you're a man of you own belief and that's great. Appreciate that, Andy. I think for myself. I'm not told what to think by the powers. I know that. But you are in the minority. There's a minority group that thinks like you, and that's okay, that's all right. I would love to be one of maybe in a thousand people. If I'm the only one in the room that is taking a stand, that makes me feel even better. So don't say you're in the minority like it's a bad

thing or that I should be a shake. I'm in a room. But if I'm in a room with a thousand people and I'm the other one thinking in the opposite direction or something different, I would scratch my head. So I wonder, why, why, why is that? Am I doing it to be contrary? Or do I really believe this? Or why am I not going with that? I would say that the other the other nine hundred and ninety nine people are sheep and possibly quite stupid. That's what I would

say. Oh, that's for another day, another show. But I'm going to ask you this because I want to talk about something positive. Because I'm going to see Kate Clark play basketball Thursday night University the game going. Oh, I'm going with Dick Maley. Dick Maley, who's an outstanding basketball player at LSU, a friend of mine and a member of the Northern Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame. Dick and I are going. We've got two tickets.

We're going Thursday night see Caitlyn Clark play. Isn't that great? We want to blame Andy? I can't go. Would you get me an autograph from Caitlyn Clark? Because I just she is a doll baby. I just love her. She's phenomenal. What I want to do is after the game, we'll maybe get there early and chat with over fifteen to twenty minutes, take a picture, and do a story on her in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. Let's I read for the Eagle for next Monday's Eagle. Maybe that's what I'll

do. Well, what do the people in Brooklyn care about a chick from Iowa, Who's who's well, you know what, best scorer in women's college basketball history? No, I kind of circle around basically ninety nine and forty four to one hundred. Get that. I write about Brooklyn athletes, past, president and future. That's what I write about. But this girl has changed it. Dy now of not only women's college basketball, but college basketball

period, sellout primetime games on TV. It is unbelievable what she has done single handedly, and she's taking it and strive and look, obviously everybody has an ego, but I don't think she has an ego that would not sit into a room. That's all I'm saying. No, you can tell it in her interviews, in her countenance, the way she plays the game. This girl is. I mean, she's the All American girl. And she happened and this doesn't matter at all, but she happens to be from all

indications heterosexual. Is she has a boyfriend, which which is which is unusual, which is unusual these days in women's college basketball. But she's the all American girl. To me, she is Jack Armstrong female version she is. She is Pete Maravich as a woman. That's what she is. You know, when she broke the record last Thursday. I think she scored forty three that night. Yeah, she had double digitus. She had forty nine points.

And I've seen some highlight films in the behind the back passing. No. I read a story the other day because I want to brush up on some background material on her. Her dad kind of pushed her into playing basketball. She she wanted to play basketball as a kid, and she wanted to play aau basketball in Iowa where she grew up. All Right, they would not let her play. They had no girls teams. So she went to play on the boys team, and they didn't want to play the boys team.

But the boys team won the championship with her, and there was an unbelievable story. She probably was the best player on the team. And it's great not only that she's a kid from the Midwest with that Midwest flair, but she's not only from the midwestern Iowa. She stayed there. She stayed. She went to high school in Iowa, and she stayed at a college in Iowa. I love that. No, a hometown girl, I mean the home She is the girl next door who scores four thousand points in her

career. Andy, that's exactly what Caitlin Clark isn't. I'm so happy for you that you get to see her in person. This is like seeing uh, the equivalent of a Michael Jordan in person. I think she's really that good and transcendent. I really do. I believe it. Yeah, And I'll tell you this much honestly. I mean it's funny. But if she may come back and play next year at Iowa, and you know, why wouldn't she the money she's making for the commercials Nike and with the nil she's

making like eight hundred thousand dollars a year playing college basketball. What's the top salary at the w NBA? Is it like two hundred and forty thousand or something for the top player that much? I don't think it's that much. I really don't. But she'd be crazy not to come back. But here's the thing that I don't understand. He was an article in the USA Today the other day, I think after she broke the record, and it said do you need a title to be a goat? I mean, everybody's saying

that she's the coat. She may very well be the coat. I think she probably is. But his columness wrote that you know, unless she wins the title at the University of Iowa, she cannot be considered the goat. You know, I looked at the in the NFL. Eli Manning won two Super Bowls. He's not the goat. You know, it goes both ways. You know, because he won two Super Bowls does not make him the

goat. Dan Marino, Oh, I thought, was the godfather of the forward pass, never won a title and obviously not the goat, but at one point in timing maybe considered the goat. So, I mean, this is the stupidest column I've ever read. There are players back in the day, there were great players that never won titles, never won championships. Ernie Banks not going back. He won the MVP two years in a row when the Cubs were in second Division. He never won a World Series with the

Chicago Cubs. He was a great players, all of the plays Hall of Famer. So you don't have to win a title. I don't think to become the goat in your sport. I tell people all the time, Andy, I had an Ernie Banks rookie card when I was seven years old. We lived in the West Burbs of Chicago. I had found a rook Ernie Banks rookie card, and at that time, he you know, he's already established star for the Cubs, and it went in the spokes of my bicycle.

Stupid move that was, could you imagine what an Ernie Banks rookie card in pristine condition would be worth today on the market? Wow? Wow? Yeah? Well, I mean that's that's you. I mean, you know you would do something like that. But that's okay. But you know your take on guys that are considered goats. I mean, obviously, the Tom Brady situation is kind of different because he was not heralded coming out of college.

He was a six round drift pick, and he had a great career and he won the Super Bowl WE seven times, so you know, he won. He considered the go for the championships that he won. But I don't think you attached a goat title because you won a championship. It doesn't work that way. Well, I mean, there are goats that win championships.

Michael Jordan won six and he definitely was the goat at the time he retired, you know, and I'm starting to think Patrick Mahomes may be the goat now because the goat always changing Andy, this is the thing, the greatest of all time is up to that point in time. You understand that. Yeah, So it's not like once you're the goat, you're the goat forever. No, because there'll be another goat that comes along after you're gone. And that's what's happening now in the NFL and the NBA to a certain

extent. And Erica Wheeler, by the way of the Indiana Fevers the top played, top paid player in the WNBA. She made two hundred and forty two one and fifty four dollars. Caitlin Clark cashed in over eight hundred thousand dollars in NILM money according to the figures this past season as an Iowa Hawkeye. So it really kind of what you got to wonder now with the nil money amongst all female athletes in college basketball right now probably making more the star

of little teams making more than WNBA players. Would that hurt the WNBA While these girls are saying, look, I'd rather stay in college for another year or two. I'm mak them more money. Think about that. It's going to hurt the WNBA. It has to. Well, I really don't care about out of hurting the w n b A. I won't watch it until Caitlin Clark is playing in it, and then I'll be there every game, Mandy, every game, because she is the new goat. You got to

say, and you say she's she's the goat for now. Okay, So I'm glad you agree that she in fact is the goat. Even if Iowa get knocked out of the NCAA tournament in the first round, that's person she's to go. I agree, I'm with you on that. Yes, it's a goat. Who would be? No, who would be the goat? What? What were you going to ask? Who's who would be the goat? Right now? In your mind? In baseball Trout, I mean, he couldn't very well be the goat, considered the goat, but the Angels

have ever won anything? Would he be the goat? I mean there's a question now, No, No, who's who's Who's who's the player of the pitcher and the guy that hit all the home runs? What? What's?

What the hell's his name? Shanie's a goat ver well? Okay, but he hasn't want anything either, I don't see he might with the Dodgers, but but he doesn't want anything, he consider him the So you know, it's funny, but this calumnist I wrote for the USA today is saying that unless she wins the title, she's not she can't be considered the goat. I think that's so off base and so wrong that do you agree with me with that? Once again, I am agreeing with you on something and you

know that doesn't settle well with my stomach. It doesn't. I know, you better move on. We better move on here. Well I don't know. I don't know what else there is to move on to at that point. But what else you got on your on your burner? What is you've been thinking about? Because no, I'm just I'm really excited about it. And this is funny. This is kind of a personal thing, you know.

I do work for The Point Dark in northern Kentucky and Covington, and there's a per a pair of twins, the Farrell Twins, and it's just a wonderful story, it really is. I mean, he goes thirty nine years of age and they live in one of the residential homes and Liz Bonus from Channel twelve is going to do a story on them, and I think the whole community should really look at that story and just take a look at these girls and just Danielle and Katie. You just they drive on one another,

you know with civil story you mentioned, you mentioned Liz Bonus. You know what would surprise you and maybe a lot of other people, Andy, is that our own our own Mike Allen, the lawyer, apparently went out on a date with Liz Bonus. And I found that hard to believe. I think it was only once, so I mean, she wised up pretty quick. But uh, you know, I find it very very unprofessional that you would take personal news and go public with it. I'm just all I'm

saying. I would never do anything like that. I'm sure that Mike Allan doesn't want the public to know that he did Liz Boness Bonus. And moreover, I would think Liz Bonus would definitely not what anybody. Well, Liz is married now, you know, Mike. Still, I don't think anybody wants to have the dirty law. It's just something I heard. I don't know that it's a factual thing. That's how I frame That's even worse, it was factuals you know, I know for a fact. But now this

is just in you Windo on rumor. That's terrible. I'd be just so unprofessional it really is. Well, maybe I never about being unprofessional. I'm trying to cover all you mentioned it though, I mean, do you allegedly he allegedly dated her? Okay, mat cover your ass? So should I start over? You know I heard I was not allegedly Mike Allen went out on one date with Liz Bonus and uh, you know what I would say this, I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. I'm on the other end of this

conversation that I have to listen to this from you. I'm moving on, take a shower. When we're done. I want to talk about the NBA gold Star Game. All I do is here people bassing and banging it. Yeah, wild Man, wild Man did wild Man did that for a whole half hour before you got on tonight, bashing the NBA. That's why these people are so wrong. That's so wrong. I heard ken Bruce Steeler line

from my buddy Mike North yesterday. He was talking to the segment during this Stooge report and saying that the NBA Gold Star Game was in his backyard. He closed the trapes. That is a line from my guy, Mike North. Well, Mike North and I did Morning Sports on Fox Sports Radio. That was Mike North's calling card. And when I use it every now and again on Fox now, I say, my friend might not have said that, but that's okay. People pick up lines from other people all the time,

and you know, shame on you. That's it my life. My line. My line is I wouldn't cross the street to watch the NBA All Start. My line is that I'd call on my belly to see it because people don't realize the type of athletes these guys are. These are the greatest athletes in the world. Now you're upset. They scored two hundred points, so what It's an exhibition. You knew that going in. And everybody who's bed mopping this has no clue or no idea how talented these athletes are.

To watch these guys jump and pass and just shoot balls from half court what Steph Curry does. It's unbelievable, really, and I love that I watched that All Star Game. The only problem I have with the All Star Game is this, they have the three point shooting exhibition, and Damian Lilland won that exhibition. However, you and I both know and the world knows that the greatest three point shooter, maybe the greatest shooter in the history of the

NBA, is Steph Curry. How could Steph Curry not be in that contest? They had him do a separate contest with the girl from the NBA. No, no, no, hold on, hold on. Steph Curry was not allowed in the regular three point shooting contest. It was just not allowed. He didn't do it. He was not in it. Well, that was his choice, it was his choice. He didn't. I don't know. I don't know that. I don't know whose choice. Do you think they kept him out on purpose? Yeah, to shoot it just the girl,

which is the dumbest thing in the world. But now Damian Lillard gets the trophy as a three point champion, and you and I and everybody in God's green Earth knows that Damian Lillard is not the three point shooter or shoot a period that Steph Curry is. He's pretty Curry is the greatest shooter in world, in the world that we know of. Damian Lillard's pretty good. Andy. He's a good player, He's a very good player. He's a good shooter. But He's not Steph Curry, no doubt not on my mind.

I think Caitlin Clark Curry I think could very well be. I thought it was just a stupid move on the NBA's part. Let's Steph Curry do both. Let it be in both. But on the other hand, hold on Andy. But on the other hand, I'm not my statement about Kaylyn Clark could beat Steph Curry in a three point shooting contest in the NBA, I'm not sure about that too. Might well you know women have smaller balls, Yeah, they do, and the women use it. You shoot from

a closer three point line. Although Kaylyn Clark she shoot from anywhere, shoot from anywhere. Yeah. And the a competition that Steph Corey had, she was shooting from the NBA line, which Kenny that Jed Smith said that she should have shot from basically the w NBA line, which kind of put a damper on the whole thing. But hey, look, she wanted to challenge him, challenge him on his rules of the NBA court through the NBA line,

Andy, Thursday night, she did, well, be safe. Be safe on your travels to Bloomington on Thursday to watch Kaitln Clark my girl play against the the forlorn Indiana hoosers. After she gets done with them, bring me back an autograph and always remember, well Pope, people listening, always remember you can't spell furman without f you. Oh my word? All right,

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w welw's live stream on the Free I'm Hard Radio. Ad Fellas, if you've been feeling to our last hour on this Tuesday evening, February twenty and twenty twenty four, revisiting some previous conversations we've had with the great Lee Hobid, who is with Salem Broadcasting as a vice president there. But more importantly, Lee Hbid is h is the headman on what's called Our American Stories, which is an incredible podcast and you can you can read, you can listen.

Fantastic stories that cover all the gamuts I mean, from politics to music to sports. I mean they focus on these outstanding individuals and Lee, I think number one, welcome to the show, Well thanks for having me. And number two, what's important I think about what you're doing with our American stories is that it focuses on true exceptionalism in America, which is still being denied in some quarters for political reasons or other agendas. And this is an

exceptional place filled with exceptional people from all corners of it. And I think you'd agree with me on that. I would, And that's what we dedicate the show too, is and so many of the exceptional people are ordinary people who do exceptional things. Yep. They rise to challenges that they didn't even expect to rise up to. And that's what we love is that you know from strange places. Know when we did the story on the Right Brothers,

these guys didn't have scientific training, they weren't PhDs. All the money was being bet on the PhDs, Samuel Langley, the great scientists all over the world. It's the greatest scientists. And there are these two bicycle mechanics and Wilbur are working on bikes. But you know what they were working. They were working on bikes. But the problem they were trying to solve was the problem of balance. Everybody else was trying to solve solve the problem of power.

And they weren't just bicycle mechanics. They were the best bicycle mechanics at a time when bicycles were the main way of transportation. They actually had wing tunnels at their manufacturing plan. And so why do you think they end up in Kiddihawk Because they're working on the problem, not just the power, but they're really working on the problem of balance. This is why they beat all those PhDs. Their practical experience, their real world experience, plus their central

entrepreneurship. They only invested a few thousand of their own dollars in this. Meanwhile, the Federal and It'd spent fifty thousand and more with the scientists, and all it led to was failure after failure to be the first nation in flight. And as you can imagine, the States were high to be the first nation in flight as it relates to warfare, commercial applications, and the like. Two unlikely guys nobody would have picked out of a lineup to be

the first in flight. No doctorates, no college education, no engineering degrees, and here they are doing what the world had tried to do. And everyone in the world, every scientist in the world with a hint of these

things, was trying it, and these two guys succeeded. As David McCullough notes in his book on the Right Brothers, this is a uniquely American story because he believed only in America, wo this happened that someone would dream they could even do something like that, coming from the ordinary working life that other countries, everybody would sit around and go, oh, that's for some special people to do, not us. There's something about this democrat, democratic republic

and constitutional republic that allows for ordinary people to dream a dream like that. Let alone to go to it. Talking to Lee h Abib on the Nightcap, our American Stories is, as I said, his baby's podcast, and it's about real people, just like you and me, and people you'd never expect, these great stories emanating from I don't know if you guys ever ever

recovered it in your archives, but you mentioned the Right Brothers. What about the Kellogg brothers from you know, from grand You have a doctor and you have his brother and they wind up you know, together coming up with a revolutionary breakfast plan for America that you know, they never thought in those terms, but it wound up happening. Right. Well, it's true, and actually that's a that's a story that's in development right now with the historian,

the how is the story and of Kellogg, believe it or not. So many of these become companies havehouse historians. We did one on Steinway last year. It was spectacular. You know, this is a you know, a company that it would not have existed if the German guilds had not told the original Steinway I'm sorry, you can't make pianos. All of the piano playing slots or closed. That was the guilds, the equivalent of trade union saying no, no, make a harpsichord, make something else. Germany's lost,

New York City's gained the world's game. They're still making pianos by hand in New York City to this day, and in very much the same way that the great great great grandfather did when he came here all those years ago in the eighteen eighties. Have you guys done stories on on Ford. Well, there's a remarkable story on Ford from the historian who wrote the book, I invented the modern age. This was a statement that Ford had said and moral

over what Ford didn't get to see. Obviously, he did some pretty amazing things. He lowered the price of cars and made them available for everybody. Before Ford, only the wealthy could have cars. He also made them not only cheaper but better through mass manufacturing. But that wasn't only did when he

dies is plants get converted. One in particular, gets converted, gets converted will Ow run into a manufacturing facility for B twenty fours that plane because of what Ford taught us all about moving assembly lines and mechanical assembly lines and manufacturing

powers. It was creating a B twenty four a day, six thousand B twenty four liberators just from one plant in two and a half years, and we don't win World War Two. Look, our men were brave, they fought, they were wonderful, But can you imagine how they might have felt that those were German planes dominating the sky, no doubt, rather than American planes. And to this day, ask any soldier when they hear the throttle of a plane overhead, they know it's an American plane. They're not fearful

of enemy planes taking them out. In the end, what we have managed to do in this great country because of our manufacturing excellence is dominate the skies. I worry about that. We've forgotten that and have started to outsource this talent of ours manufacturing to China and to other places, and we do so at our own peril. Who's going to make our planes in war? If we don't make them, We're going to ask our enemy to make our planes.

So our history is really good because though Henry Ford was anti Semitic, the irony of this is that the Ford plant helped liberate the Jews. Capitalism helped liberate not just Jews who were stuck in the remaining Jews in the camps, but all the Jews that were hidden all throughout Europe. It liberated Europe. Our manufacturing system are our country. American exceptionalism did that. And you know they're not teaching this history departments in high schools and colleges anymore because I

don't think they don't. I don't think they really want people to fall in love with their country. Well that's it. They have an agenda that is totally anti American, and everything that has passed before must be eradicated or ignored, just like any any overtaking force does with any society down through history.

Lee, if one of the first things they do is they rewrite the history books, they tear down statues and monuments, and they tell you that this was crap because it had nothing to do with what we're trying to do now. And that's exactly what's been happening on our college campuses and with American history in general and all. It's all from a leftist perspective of, well, this can't be good because it originated from an awful, systemically racist country like

the United States of America, and it's such a load of garbage. Well, what's said is that, you know, they're always there's some small kernel of truth to the idea that there was real racism in the country. But there was real there's real racism everywhere. Yes, you think the Chinese and the Japanese get along in sing Kumbaya all these centuries. Look, my father was a Sicilian and he didn't want to be called an Italian and he had, let's just say, not so kind words to say about people from Milan.

Right, So the idea that people don't like each other because of their family ethnic religious ties. Is like utterly normal and is utterly well everywhere. What's really unique is what happens here in America, how we live, how we love. I'm an Arab kid and an Italian kid. My wife is part Irish, part American, Indian, and part Viking, which means my kid, yes, Viking, she's a Viking. My kid is all six of those things. And what a thing, What a beautiful thing. How

we live and love and tolerate each other in this country. We're not shooting at each other. We're yeah, we're ghosting each other occasionally. And by the way, tell some terrific stories about how America has been divided before in the past. The Civil War was a pretty rough patch. Americans were killing

you right, yeah, And even in the Revolutionary War. People don't know it, but Ben Franklin's adopted son became the royal Governor of New Jersey, and in a terrific hour, an hour long piece of storytelling but one of my favorite historians, we learned that Ben Franklin's son was not only the world governor, but he was warning his father not to sign the Declaration of Independence because he be signing his own death, warned, and there was nothing he

could do. You know, the British crown was not happy with these a bunch of patriots claiming that they were getting a divorce from the king. People didn't go around divorcing kings, let alone parliament. And so Benjamin Franklin told his son, look, I can't help you. You need to step down from the world governorship because there's going to be a war in this country and

you've got to take sides. Well, ben Franklin arrested his son, had him throw in the Litchfield goal with many of the other world governors, and ultimately they were never to talk again. So, I mean, he imprisoned the son he loved, and he had to right. And the son, if he had had his brothers, would have watched his dad possibly get hanged. Just let me tell you this wasn't treason with a small T. There was treason with a capital T what these guys decided to do when they put

their name on the Decoration of Independence. The historian noted that Benjamin rush had described that room there was not a lot of celebration when those guys signed that document. They said, there was a pensive silence that pervaded the room, and that was because they understood the consequence of what they were about to do. They were declaring war on a king who had large numbers of troops and

an armada was coming soon to America after the New York Harbor. Well, I mean, when you're pledging your life, your fortune, and your sacred honor to something, it's not exactly one of those those in billiant kind of celebration moments. It's that, I'm sure it's very reverent at that point, extremely reverend. And it divided the nation. One third of the country.

From what David McCullough said in his epic biography of the Year seventeen seventy six, he said, one third of the country was with the Patriots, one third was with the crown. Hey, why do we don't need to get in a fight. We'll play a few more dollars in taxas whatever. We don't mind the security of England. They're protecting us in the French and Indian War. They'll protect us from the next battle. We don't want to protect ourselves. The illusion, by the way, that all people want freedom,

Not all people want freedom. Some people want security. So one third one of the security of the crown. One third wanted to fight and the other third were hiding under their tables hoping the whole thing would ball over. Does that sound familiar? It does? It sounds strikingly familiar. How many of these American stories? And how often do you put one outly? We do anywhere from three to four a night, five nights a week. Were heard

on the radio, and then we're also heard streaming. And also we released three to four stories each day on our podcast Summer ten minutes, Summer twenty minutes, Summer forty minutes. We've developed We have a now have a catalog of a thousand stories. We're doing this for seven years. So what we do is we repurpose them. You know, every day on Memorial Day we play the same eight stories. You come to love them in the same way that if you want to watch TV. In my house we watch Band of

Brothers in Memorial Days. That's what we do. I want my family, friends, neighbors to know what those boys did in Point the Hunk, right. I want them to know what they did in Normandy. And just because they're no longer with us doesn't mean we shouldn't know what they did. We have this amazing inheritance Americans do. And you know, David McCullough told this

story once on our airwaves before he passed about. You know, you're a family that one of the kids inherits a van go, but he doesn't know what a van go is, and so he goes, well, what a ridiculous looking painting. The paint's thrown all over the place. I'm gonna take this to good will. I think that's what happened. That's what's happening now. You know, we don't know how we got this inheritance where all this wealth and prosperity and freedom comes from our free speech rights, our right to

vote, all the things we take for granted. It's an inheritance, and they're easy to an inheritance, it's easy to squander. All of us have met enough rich kids whose parents let them squander it. Right, we see it and we watch them just you know, squander a family fortune one or two generations. Well, we can squander our American fortune, which is not money. It's the inheritance of our values. The intellectual property rights that were

allowed to have. You know, we get to own our own property rights are some of our best stories are about the arts. Our artists are the best because they're the freest. Our artists are also the freest because their intellectual property is protected. It's protected, by the way. Ben Franklin had a lot to do with that, because he had owned Poor Richard's Almanac. He wanted to make sure that, you know, authors who created something could earn

the fruits of that without someone stealing it. No doubt remarkable ton to le Habibe of our American Stories, I've only got a couple minutes left, Lee, But just I was looking down the list of some of these are American Stories podcasts that are available readily. I love this title. Curly of the Three Stooges was my grandfather. But my family kept it a secret for me. Yeah they did. They did because they just didn't want him to be, you know, known for that. And by the way, what an

interesting thing for parents and family members to do for them. I think that's a tremendous blessing actually that he found it out later, because came this great surprise. It was a beautiful story, not just about learning about his connection to this iconic character, but learning about just how much his parents loved him, that they were willing to protect him from the infamy and the fame that would come from that, and he was now able to develop his own identity

separate and apart from Curly. The one probably a good thing, the one I saw yesterday. And now we're down to a minute, sorry about the time crunch uh on on a what should have been daytona weekend. The Intimidator, Dale Earnhardt's life in the fast lane any any quick take, just like a minute take on that that you know he he was known as the Intimidator.

But on the day he died, his his his teammates were ahead on the last lap, Michael Waltrip and his son, and so Dale Earnhardt decided this time to play the role of protector, getting in front of folks so they couldn't pass. The Intimidator died being the protector. He died on that track that day a tremendous turn. Did Did Robert Johnson sell his soul to the devil? Really? Well? Look at the lyrics to Crossroads. I went down to the crossroads, fell down on my knees, fell down on

my knees. Ask the Lord above from mercy save me, if you please, what man who makes a deal with the devil? Right exactly, le Habib, thank you so much. It's always a pleasure to talk to you, and thanks for taking some extra time out with us tonight. Are American stories. All you gotta do is type that in to your your search and you will find them all. Thank you so much, sir, Thanks for

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seven hundred WLW and helping us close things out. My friend Rocco Costelano the first Dawn of family Fitness. But whatever name I came up with right now. I just talked to Lee who Leehabid, who's an Arab Italian who is from New Jersey, and I thought about you the whole time because he kind of kind of sounded a little bit like you. But nobody sounds exactly like Rocco. Yeah, it's a tough accent to Actually it's a Jersey, New

York via Cincinnati, albutguerky Las Vega, yes, Oklahoma acts sopranos. Yeah, so you said that the who you're telling me? You sent me this the World Health Organization, which is certainly worldly and is an organization. I don't think it has much to do with health projects. A seventy seven percent rise in cancer rates by twenty fifty. What's your take on that, Roco? So there's several takes, Gary Jeff one, I don't believe a word

of it. Uh, And then let's just say, I do believe you know what they're saying that there's gonna be that that's gonna be a rise from a twenty million to thirty five I mean a twenty twenty five million to thirty

five million and a twenty six a year period. I want to know how they came to that, and if they're predicting that because of the like the gene therapy that that that are two hundred and twenty million people were given or or is it because our lifestyle and the way that we eat and are and just b is so disgusting, so damaged, and we fill ourselves with garbage and we expose ourselves to garbage so much that that this is the reason.

They haven't given us an actual reason, And I would like to know that it's just a projection, right, But where what's the algorithm that they're using? Is there? Because they're saying that that that the population's aging, right, But we were literally told a year ago that that this is the first time that that every the life expectancy was going down. So are we aging or are we not a dying earlier? Right? Are we dying earlier?

So? What is it? You know? And that's that's where the WHO and the CDC and the medical industrial complex in and of itself will consistently try to keep you confused so that you don't know which ways up and and then you go to them for answers. Well, you have to understand. The WHO was led by a man named Ted Rose, Yes, who was responsible for a genocide in Uganda, Yes, before they elevated him to the lead spot at the World Health Organization. Imagine that the World Health Organization. And

you're and you're responsible for so many deaths? Yeah, exactly, so are we? And and you know and Gary, Jeff, you know me. I'm a health optimization expert, right, So that's what I believe we should consistently be optimizing our health. So when an organization is a predicting not a not a cancer cure, a cancer reduction, but they're saying cancer increase, there's a cancer increase. What is going on? And why why is this a population a reduction? Uh, let's just call it a meme going on?

Why are they trying to scare us literally to death? Are they trying to scare us or prepare us for what they have planned ultimately, which is

reduced population worldwide? Well that's a I mean, we want to know this stuff, but they give this vague a pro you know, a projection, and they don't give us the causes, the cause, and they give us, you know, on the website, on the w h o A website, it basically says, you know, smoking alcohol, uh, diet, processed food, exposure to E. M F, exposure to forever chemicals. I'm not sure if you're if the audience knows what forever chemicals are, but

basically it's the pesticides. It's the stuff that in cosmetics and I guess spilled out of that rail car in East Palestine. Yes, a high mony chloride. Absolutely forever chemical and it's not good, no, no, and that absolutely causes a cancer. So but one thing that I would like, uh, the audience to know is that if you are concerned about if if you smoked, if you over consumed alcohol, if you eat processed food on a regular basis, you can, uh you can stop a cancer in its tracks.

And there's a great book out there, it's called it's called a Never Fear Cancer Again, and uh it's one of my favorite books on it and it gives you exactly what you need to do as step by step process of a step by step it tells you what's happening. I need that book and it's it's it's still going with the same notion that I talked about a month ago, that there's only a one disease and that cellular a malfunction and cellular

malfunction. Uh, the two causes are going to be uh toxicity or are toxins or a deficiency in a nutrients and and when you could figure that out and there's you know, and we talked about this, you know, with the functional health stuff that I talked about right the other day, you go to functional health dot com. You can get tested and if you really are are concerned about cancer, you get the Grail. You get the Grail tests. Right, it can go back. It can predict a cancer for up

to twenty years, right, fifty different cancers. So why not you know, well you mentioned why not? You mentioned the WHL. Right now, they are crafting and trying to draft this. They're not calling it a treaty but something that you want to the United States to sign on to, which gives them full autonomy in case for the next pandemic. Right, so they're trying to to create our congress and our government will be able to do nothing

about those dictates. Well yeah, the w h O news departments not reporting this roco. But I thank god I'd look at other places, like the Epoch Times and to find out this kind of stuff. Well other stuff, you know, like the legacy media isn't gonna isn't gonna touch this because then then Affives is not gonna pay for the commercials, you know, you know, a Madern is not gonna pay for the commercials. Eli Lilly is not

gonna pay for the commercials. So they're not going to you know, I'll be talking about But the WHO is is uh is just a branch of the w E F right and you know as extension of the United Nations. Well yeah, but they're they co inside the WHO and the United Nations, right, and they do whatever a clause A Schwab wants them to do, right, and so so a one world government is what is what they want, and they want to be able to control the whole population of the United States.

And some people even in this country think that's a good idea. Well, and I need to find those people. Well, if you do, strangle them, if you really do think that that's a good idea. Well, you know what dia cancer, right, sure, rock Ocostelano with us another segment coming up and something else that you may have suspected. But you need to have your eyes open to this because I don't believe our news department's working on this one either yet. Seven hundred WLW bounced to the crowd.

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Costelano. For a second part of our conversation. This was the other news outside of the WHO projecting that there'd be a seventy seven percent rise in cancer by twenty fifty. Also, they're making plans to track the unvaxed UH with new CDC medical codes, which is if that happens, I'm be one of the people, they'll be they'll be tracking Raco. What about you? Well, you know, every single time that I hear something like this, I'm

thinking, because this is actually being done right now. So when you go to the doctor, right the second you go to the doctor, the first question out of their mouth is going to be are you vaccinated? When you hesitate or you say no, they have three different codes, how about none of your business? How about that? Well, well, but then they're going to put you down as as unvaccinated or and there's three different codes.

There's one that's for for you being unvaccinated, there's another code for you getting one shot one of the shots and none other and then uh and then are totally vaccinated. So I'm not sure what they're trying to do here, but it's because I can't say that it's it's a nefarious, but I can say see now, if you've just been vaccinated Rocco, you might not be coughing like that of a studio. No, I'm kidding, I had something that

might throw actually. But the thing is I with these codes, what they're they're absolutely trying to do is to sort out the vaccinated and the unvaccinated and most likely they're using this as a twenty year study, as a as a ten year study. That's that's my theory on this is that they can sort out who is who. They're not trying to try us down into isolators and arrest us. Well they can't. Well they're not going to arrest us.

What I what I believe that they're trying to do is to sort us out because they're seeing who was not complyant, very similar to what they did with the military, right, because they want to see who was a patriot and who would not who who could think for themselves. It was very it was very odd that they would have done something like that if if there wasn't something the fairy. I don't believe patriotism had a thing to do with somebody getting

that jab. In fact, no, no, I believe no. I believe that they were looking to see who who would think for themselves right and then separate them out. So that and this is a theory that's been going around. But they're looking to take from what we have been told, you know, me and some friends of mine have been told, is that they're looking to take the eight million illegals and have them sign up for a for

military service in order to get us, you know, a citizenship. If they if they do that, which has been being thrown around in a Congress lately, if they do that, then they all of those illegals, millions upon millions of criminal for trust passers. Well they're gonna want invaders. Yeah, they're gonna want them. What they are, Well, they are invaders. They're not migrants, they're not immigrants. They are criminal. There are

criminal foreign trust passers. They are invaders to this country. It's an invasion horde that has been invited by the Biden administration. Let's be straight about that. I wanted to read you something I got last night at Gary Jeff Walker at seven hundred WLW dot com from a regular listener. Sure, Gary, Jeff, here are some benefits of receiving the vaccine I e. The COVID

JAB. These are all people I know personally who receive the shot. My cousin aged sixty four, heart attack, my oldest son aged forty three, compromised immune system, A woman I know aged sixty five, right leg amputation, blood clot. A man I know, age sixty eight, had twelve inches of a vein transplanted from his right eye to his left lower leg blood clots, still recovering. A man I know, aged sixty seven heart attack, a help nut who constantly worked out, a man I know, aged

sixty six death from blood clots. He said, I had COVID. I survived it. It was no picnic, but I am so glad. I refused the JAB well, and I give evidence well and the jeb G. So I call it a gene therapy. Yeah, okay, because Brett Weinstein also calls it a gene therapy, and many doctors that I know that won't that don't have the heart, which is very annoying to me, won't speak

out. They also call it augen therapy because whenever you're working with with RNA or mRNA r in a you're you're trying to edit or you're trying to to uh splice your genes, well you can't. You don't really splice them up per se, except but something I like crisper. But when you're doing a gene therapy, you're using the genes to express something different, right with with

epigenetics. So when and that was actually done, that technology was actually done to create a cancer therapy to you know, and then they decided, oh, you know what, let's just try this out. There's there's still no efficacy, there's still no safety trials, there's there's still no data. But you see, you know Travis Kelcey on you know on TV, going, hey, I got it. He made d billion dollars. He made more money, more money, you know, advertising Pfizer and the Boys ab than

he did play does playing football. It's insane. So what does that tell you, Well, it tells you that it's all a money game. It's all about big pharma co opting with government and at the peril of the citizens. Rocco, listen, I'm sorry. We are times up at flew bum Oh no, I have more. You always have more. That's why I'll have you back trained with Morocco dot com if you want to find out more,

because he's got more. Thanks a lot for tuning in tonight. And here's our national anthem, the Star Spangled Banner to honor America on seven hundred w l W