10-24-23 The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker

Good evening and welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW for Tuesday Night, October twenty fourth, twenty twenty three, on Gary Jeff Walker sitting down, checking in the world seemingly on the brink of World War three, now Chinese warships joining in the fun in the Middle East, and our carrier groups standing

behind the Mediterranean. Should Israel need us? The Hamas terrorists continue to ask for ceasefires after they brutally raped and murdered Israeli citizens Jewish people in their homes in their towns just a little over two weeks ago. All the experts on TV and radio, well, there's there're a dime a dozen because many of us who are trying to speak and know what's going on with the impending ground invasions or what material Israel may have had or the US may have gathered as

far as our hostages being held by As. Yet everybody seems to have an opinion, but nobody knows Squat and I'm in that group too. I'm just sitting and watching and going, well, this is it, isn't it. I don't want to be that blunt, but it looks like it. We'll have Peter Bronson with us, who's got a brand new book, The Man who Saves Cincinnati, will talk about that and much more with Pete. Dan

Carroll will stop in for Carol's Corner. Dave Hatter, hoping that Roco Costellano, our trainer Extraordinary, stops by Mike Reader from Mike's Music with some more fun stories. And we'll also have the fur Ball Andy Furman and my wife christ To two point zero before the show is over, makes her picks for a week eight in the NFL season because DraftKings asked for it. No, they did not. Anyway, The show continues in mere moments as we get

you going, it's the Nightcap. Glad you here. Good stuff ahead on seven hundred WLW. And as we begin this evening on the telephone with us Peter Bronson demand the Myth the author and he is back with a new book. We'll talk about that in a few minutes. But Pete first and foremost, welcome back to the night Cap. How are you this evening? I'm doing great? How you doing very? Jeff? It's good to do with what's my friend Mike Davis say? Too? Blessed distress or better than I

deserve or any number of answers you can give to that. But I'm just o, I'm I'm just ducky. Thanks. So I opened up the saying, now that the Chinese are in the Middle East with their warships matching our carrier group. As someone who knows the Bible a little bit, and he looks at if you look at the Revelation of John at the end of the

New Testament, all the pieces seem to be coming into place. But yet we know too that as Christians, if you know the verse, no man will know the hour or the day, but you will see the signs. Man, We've been rife with signs that something big is about to happen, haven't we. Oh well, I'll say this all does follow a lot of the symbolism and literal text of the New Testament, in the book Revelation and

in the Old Testament, with a lot of that. However, whenever I start to go down that path, then I think, if we think that this is the end times, how much people have felt back in the nineteen forties when they had what was going on with World War Two, with the Nazis and the Evil Empire in Japan taking over the world and it looked unstoppable, or if you could go move ahead a little bit to Stalin when you see some of these things. So I guess the caution is always there.

You won't as you said and quoted, you won't know the hour, and it's not our to try and figure these things out, but the signs are going to be there by the more. Let's put it this way. We live in very interesting time, yeah, And I just wonder. I just wonder if our respecse if our response back in nineteen seventy nine to Iran had been bolder, or if we'd moved to take the Iyatolas out when they committed the active war of taking over our embassy and holding American hostages hostage for four

hundred and forty four days. I just wonder if our response then had been different, maybe we'd be dealing with a different kind of Iran, which is obviously behind this murderous behavior of Hamas. They're financing it, and they're encouraging it, and they're probably helping plant it. And I'm sure that's why the Chinese warships are there, because they're in cahoots with the Mullahs in Iran and

it's all about It's still all about oil. Isn't that amazing? That's what some people say, as far as they're concerned, it isn't to me. You can look back and this is just a fact of history, as partisan as it sounds. But you can go back to Carter inviting more aggression by Iran by being weak. Then you go to Clinton, who passed up opportunities to respond with some decisiveness and again invited more aggression. Then you go to

Obama, who not only invited it, but paid for more aggression. And now you have President Biden, whose weakness is projected throughout the world, not just in his policies, but in his physical being. He is one of the weakest presidents, one of the most mentally incapacitated presidents we've ever had. And our world leaders around the China, North Korea, Iran, they don't

fail to notice this. They know exactly what's going on. All those same countries sure noticed when president was in office, and their behavior was markedly different. There was no question about that. Well, Iran was in a bottle. More or less, North Korea had backed off Russia. We had an

unprecedented time of peace. At the end of Trump's term, whatever you say about the guy, he delivered in all the ways that people say they want, better economy, more jobs, better standard of living, life expectancy was going up. We had a safe, relatively safe cities until we had the

riots. And I mean all these things were because of his policies and because he projected strength and refused to back down, and they knew it, they knew that they It sort of reminds me of when Reagan was called a cowboy, but that was very useful to our in the way that we use that against our enemies because they felt like he was just unpredictable enough they didn't dare

to step on the line. Do you remember all of the rhetoric leading up to the nineteen eighty election and people were saying, well, president, if Reagan gets elected, we're going to be a nuclear war. We were never farther away from nuclear war, even though the weapons were still pointed in both directions when Ronald Reagan was president, because again, peace through strength, trust, but verify, and a strong and a strong stature all over the world.

Cowboy or now, I'll take the cowboy as long as he's he's got the hat and the saddle to match, and seemingly Ronald Reagan did, and seemingly Donald Trump did too. Uh away. You know, you know the the old sci fi movies where there's always a professor who wanders out to the flying saucer and he's saying, we come in peace, and they bry him. Yeah. Basically, the Democrats foreign policy for the for my higher lifetime is to try to negotiate from weakness and invite aggression. And it just doesn't

work. You'd think that after sixty years of this people would have figured it out, but they have not. Well, actually it does work. When you deal from a point of weakness, you do get more aggression. So maybe that's their goal ultimately. Anyway, boy, maybe there's some kind of backwards you know, genius to it, but I've never been able to see it. The Jewish people have the right to defend themselves in any way they see fit after they were attacked. Agree or not. Amen, brother,

I absolutely agree. And it's absolute idiocy for us to be suggesting that they should respond to this lawless terrorism by following rigid rules of conduct. There is no way that that's why asymmetrical warfare war work. It's because one side is wearing handcuffs and the other side is free to do whatever they please. It would be like going into the ring and big time wrestling and one guy is I'm not allowed to use his fists or his feet, and the other guy

can do whatever he wants. It's crazy, and yet that's exactly what our government is doing right now. We're hobbling Israel and the whole world is all all of a sudden counseling, caution and restraint. Where were they when Hamas is doing and is doing what it's doing now? Well, Plus, I don't think that we need to know everything that Israel's doing at all times.

In fact, I hopefully don't. I hope my fervent prayer, Pete, is that right now as we speak and they keep on talking about the imminent ground invasion and Israel's being held at bay, what I hope is there are all kinds of things going on behind the scenes. Who knows. Maybe the ID efforts already infiltrated those tunnels in Gaza. Maybe they're already doing the work quietly without anyone knowing, and no one is talking. That's what I'd like

to see. I mean, you don't you don't have to tell the enemy everything you're doing. In fact, you don't have to tell your own people everything you're doing it, every moment you're doing it. I agree with you. I think that's a great insight that But it's in a way also those days are gone, because now we have a situation where the Palestinians and Hamas terrorists actually blew up that hospital parking lot, and within minutes it's flashed all

over every headline through our mainstream media that should know better. It was recklessly irresponsible for them to do that. And yet that's the world we live in now. It's instantaneous, twenty four to seven media cycle, and everything is available by a cell phone, video and propaganda, and unfortunately most of the news, a lot of the news that we see around this iss fake news. Oh yeah, there's no question about that. The hospital incident is first

and foremost in this pecking order of the most recent thing that's happened. It's spurred protests all over America in college campuses who were calling for Israel basically to be wiped off the mat because of their horrible treatment of the poor Palestini, the poor oppressed Palestinian people who continue to elect terrorists to represent them, going all the way back from Yasir Arafat to now with Hamas. You know,

Pete, elections have consequences. I've heard that from somewhere sometime before kid And in two thousand and six when Israel pulled out of the Gaza, they elected terrorists to run their country and to provide your some their safety and security. So they're kind of reaping what they sewed when they choose, you know, terrorist leaders. Again, well, I love it when our American politicians say that Hamas does not represent the Palestinians. They literally do. Yeah, they

literally are there elected representatives. So you can tell me that the elections rig You can tell me anything you want. But if they did not want Amas to be representing them, then they would make sure they weren't. But it's just ridiculous. Talking with Peter Bronson on the Nightcap on seven hundred, wlw P first wrote famously behind the lines about the Timothy Tops Beverly Hills supper club Blaze, which he and I have talked about and you probably have a copy

of. It's great book and sold very well. And then then the the last book before this new one, which was yet not in our town. Town, not in our town. That was it the King of Smut versus of Queen City, or vice versus city versus the King of Smutt. That's right. I got it about Larry Flint and the Mob. And now the new book is The Man who Saves Cincinnati. Tell me about this. I've kind of found a niche I really love, which is local history. And

I think most of Cincinnati really enjoys it too. And if you do a little digging, and I love to do the research, you can find some real treasures, some stories that our region has long forgotten or never really gave attention to, that it deserves. In this book, we can you can read about the man who literally saved Cincinnati from a Confederate attack in eighteen sixty two. He formed the first black brigade in the Union Army. This is

the first one anywhere in the Union Army. He captured Billy the kids, and stopped a range war in New Mexico. This guy was unbelievable, and he wrote one of the greatest books in American literature, Ben her which still, by the way, holds the shares the record for oscars at eleven. That's not to say he was roun when the movie was made, because he was a contemporary. He was a general during the Civil War, he fought in Shiloh. He did so many things that anybody who thinks they've had an

accomplished life could read this and feel like one heck of a slacker. Let me tell you that that's great. Where'd you get the idea for this? Did you just stumble across this information? It's stuff you already knew, or

I mean, what inspired this book? Pete? Well, I've been a Civil War kind of hobbyist for most of my time in Cincinnati, since I joined a group of guys that were known as we call ourselves, the Cincinnati Irregulars, and we went around from battlefield to battlefield just to learn about our history and tend to make buddy trips road trips and really had a good time with it. But it got me really interested in the Civil War, especially

battlefields like Gettysburg and Shiloh. And while I was studying Shiloh and getting involved

in it, I learned about this man Lou Wallace. He was a general from Indiana, Crawfordsville, Indiana, and he was the man who was selected to come and help Cincinnati, and it's hours of greatest need in September of eighteen sixty two when a Confederate army was coming marching north to take the city for ransom or burn it or plunder it, and he had only days to get a defense organized in Cincinnati. And it's just an amazing story of what

he accomplished and the things that happened in the city. So it's out now. I expect to have this out in about two weeks, and I'm hoping to get to the printer next week and have books available for bookstores and also online at my website, chilidog press dot com. And so I'll be selling signed copies there and cranking this up in time for Christmas sales. Well, you obviously have a very You've had a very prolific five or six years here

when it comes to churning out great books. I mean, congratulate, thank you, thank you. Oh. I just love doing it. I'm never happier than when I'm doing the research, except when I'm doing the writing. And I just love to write, and I just when I dig into these stories, it's it's sort of like I just keep shaking my head, like I can't believe this stuff. Well, for example, I uncovered, thanks to some help from researchers, researchers that I interviewed, I uncovered an assassination

plot to kill Abraham Lincoln in Cincinnati. It nearly succeeded. Wow. So John wilks Booth might have been upstage. That's the line of the night right there, John wilts Booth could have been upstaged. But no. Peter Bronson, the man who saved Cincinnati out in a couple of weeks. In fact, when it is out, let me know and we'll chat again for a moment. Okay, Oh, absolutely would love it. All right, thank you for your time tonight. Peter Bronson, everybody on the Nightcap all was

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at ten o'clock. I'm Sean Gallagher. News Radio seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, available everywhere with the iHeartRadio app down number one for podcasting seven hundred WLW and iHeartRadio station green Berry, Greenberry. Do you want freak game? Well, I tell you what. The guy who's taken over the title of the busiest working man in Tri State radio has been really knocking it out of the park lately, on for Scott Sloane earlier today and back

at it with the midweek crisis. I believe tomorrow night here in this time slot, the man who's taken over my position that I used to hold for years as the whack a mole of talk radio here in town because I would just pop up anywhere, you know, And you know what, Dan, Dan Carroll is our guest. Dan. I think that you and I are the only two people currently working at seven hundred WLW who've done the morning show, have done the early midday show, have done Willie's show, have done

the afternoon show. I've done every show except sports talk on this station at one time or another. And we both worked at a sister station, and I even worked overnights a couple of times on the atn and I know you were doing that for a while. So you and I are the most versatile tools in the box. And you mentioned as I mentioned tools first, but we are the most universal, versatile tools in the toolbox here at seven hundred

WLW. So we're in very very select company, you and I. Well, you know I've been called a tool before Mary Jeff Walker, but I'm not sure it was meant in the in the same manner in which you mean it as as in a complimentary way. Yes, a useful, a useful piece of equipment, that's right. But you know, we we do what we can. But we love we look, we love this radio station. We love the people to listen to this radio station, and that's what it's

all about. And if I get a chance to be on different day parts, because we know that there are different people who listen at different times, and so it's uh, I look at it as a as a benefit to myself when I get to when I get to fill in for Cunningham, when I get to, uh, you know, maybe do your Saturday morning show, which i've I've I've done once or twice when I get if you know, I don't know if the overnight slots ever going to come open again,

but when I did the overnight show for about five or six months, uh that I had a great time doing that. So I appreciate all the different listeners and all different times a day, and I feel like I'm starting to develop a loyal following on Wednesdays and Thursday nights with the midweek crisis. I think that that is deserved, and I think that your hard work and your

dedication towards that end have made that possible. So just a couple of things I wanted to read to you, just a little bit of a commentary by the great Dennis Prager from Praguer You okay, and he said the hamas slaughter confirmed everything I have believed. He goes with one exception. Nothing about October seventh surprised me. The one exception was Israel's unpreparedness that also surprised nearly every Israeli. My guess is that a combination of Iranian technology and Israeli complacency and

incompetence led to the greatest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust. And he breaks it down. He said, nothing else surprised me. Not the butchery, not the sadism, not the jew hatred, not the theology that made the slaughter possible, not even Glee and Gaza and among an untold number of Muslims around the world, Nor the reactions in our universities, and not the support

of the left, not of liberals. He said. Since the seventies, when he was a graduate student at the Middle East Institute of Columbia School of International Affairs, I knew what the Middle East conflict was about, Muslim rejection of a Jewish state in the middle of the Muslim world. He said. It's it's easy to point out what's what the situation. He says, it's

not land. Has nothing to do with the land. He said, all the all the people who were so called experts, usually having a sympathetic view of the Arab world, they believed and taught that the issue was about land. He said they were wrong. It was always about Muslim rejection of a Jewish state in their midst and a religious desire to destroy it. And he was talking about it, and he said, finally, think about these two questions. If tomorrow Israel laid down it's arm and announced we will fight no

more, what would happen? And if the Arab countries around Israel laid down their arms and answered, we will fight no more, what would happen? And he goes, and I think he's right in this Dan. In the first case, there would be an immediate destruction of the state of Israel and the mass murder of its Jewish population in the second case. In the second case, there would be peace the next day. If the Arabs laid down their weapons and said we will fight no more, there would be peace in

the Middle East. And it's just that simple. People try and make it more complex than it actually is. Your thoughts on any of that, well, I have used that very explanation probably a half a dozen times since this latest war began. This latest terrorist activity began on the seventh and it was I heard Benjamin nettan Yahoo make a speech many years ago and he said that exact same thing. If Israel were to lay down its weapons, there would be no more Israel. And he said, if our enemies were to lay

down their weapons, there would be peace. And it makes a complicated situation, I think, very easy to understand. But going back to that commentary, that is the main question is how was Israel caught so unawares when this activity was taking place. There are reports out there that Egypt had an inkling as to what was going to happen, that they may or may not have

given Israel heads up on this. It may not have been heated. But to me, that's been one of the hardest things to get my head around during this entire time, is because I have this sense that because their very lives are on the line every single day, every day, they cannot afford to be like Joe Biden and go to the beach after declaring How about Joe Biden declaring himself a wartime president and then the first thing he does is he

goes in xon on the beach for two or three days, absolutely unbelievable. But they can't do that, and is they can't go to the beach for three or four days. They have to be vigilant twenty four to seven. And how they got caught with their pants down on this particular occasion is probably going to be a shameful chapter in their history when it comes to protecting the people of Israel. Well, I mean, Joe's problem is that they don't stock his favorite ice cream at the White House and he has to go to

Rehoboth Beach to get it. I guess I'm not sure. I don't know. I mean, this guy, this guy and his foreorn. You know, he was given that speech and then I heard his his former chief of staff, Ron Klain, was on MSNBC talking about, Oh, what great political savvy, what a great thing it is for Joe Biden to be the commander in chief at a time like this. If it were not for Gary Jeff the policies, the foreign policies of this president, he would not have

to have made that speech because this would have never have happened. Ukraine would have never happened. You can't go around just ladling out money to friend and foe alike and then think everyone's gonna sit back and be happy. You have to cut them off, you have to stop them what they're doing. And that all revolves around money. When you talk about dictators and despots and you talk about terrorists, if they've got money, they're going to use that money

to do what they do. And that's what we saw with the horrific attacks in Israel. The weakness and the lack of fores sight of Joe Biden goes far beyond the dealings with Iran getting back into the nuclear deal, the unfrozen six billion dollars an half it, and assets which looks like help help set

up this attack on October seventh, give the green light to it. All of that is minuscule in comparison to what the Biden administration has done from day one, getting rid of our energy independent and propping up Iran's economy and their

oil industry. It's gone from what fifteen billion to eighty billion during the Biden administration of Iran's oil profits, all because again of the policies that Joe Biden is set in place, with this hysterical cult like adherence to the Green New Deal and green technology and the false narrative that carbon emissions are killing the planet and going to destroy us all, so we need renewable energy only, and shifting away the focus on America's energy independence which we had before Biden to Iran

and to other people who produce it dirtier and more environmentally unsound than we do in this country. Energy anyway, and he has made he alone has made Iran a wealthy nation again when they were the brink of bankruptcy before he came into office. Well, then, and you talk about the Green New Deal and the Green Agenda, how much money does that funnel directly into China?

With China producing all the solar panels and all the windmills and all the rarer minerals that you need for the car batteries and the bus batteries and all this other stuff. So China is flush with cash right now. That comes from where the United States and government subsidies to this solar power company and this windmill company and all the rest of them. And Dan, now China's to engage

in whatever adventures they want to engage. Hey, Dan, And do you know what they're doing with a lot of that money they're getting from us. They're buying oil from all around the globe, from US, from Iran,

from our strategic reserve. China is buying oil to prop up the Green New Deal so they can build more coal fired power plants in China, so they can remain or get close to some kind of energy of independence themselves, while we're stuck with their cheap solar panels and wind turbines that don't work when the

sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. Well, Gary Jeffery, if you combine everything that we just talked about, if you combine that with what's happening at the southern border, the number of illegals that continue to pour through day after day after day, the number of individuals who are on the terror watch list that have been caught at the border is probably only scratching the surface. When you talk about the number of terrorists who have gotten through the border

and are now god knows where in the United States. Only God knows what they're up to. We're in a world of trouble. We are in a world of trouble under this administration. When you look at all these elements and you and you connect all the dots and you see how it's all connected. And is it too much to look at the things and say that we are in major, major, major trouble, and if we don't do something about it quickly, it may already be too late. It may already be too

late. So those are the kind of things that I'll be talking about on my next show. We're two weeks away from the final tally on election day, and of course, one of the most contentious and contentious and hotly debated

issue in a long long time in Ohio's Issue one. And I just I scratch my head when I look at some of the polling numbers that say that Issue one is passing some sixty five percent or sixty nine percent of the vote among those asked, And I just what I'm what I'm at a loss for is are there that many people in the state of Ohio that like killing babies? I mean, do they get certain glee out of it? Are they profiting from it like the abortion industry is, or is it just a matter

of convenience? And they think that fifty years of Roe v. Wade federally meant that it was okay to kill babies in certain circumstances. Like I said, I'm just having a hard time getting my head wrapped around how many people should could be in favor of killing babies in Ohio, and it appears to be a majority right now. You know, Ohio's abortion law currently on the books is twenty two weeks is the deadline. That's five and a half months.

If you can't make your decision in five and a half months as a woman. The other lie, of course it's been propped up by the pro issue one baby killers, is that a woman can't get any medical cares he miscarries a total lie total total light total, lite com total lot. I think those numbers that you talked about are more of a function of people not bothering to get informed about this issue. I think there's a number of young voters out there who just oh, yeah, let's let's not have the government

involved in these decisions. And I have to give the people who are for voting yes on Issue one a lot of credit because look at the commercials that they design. When you when you look at their television commercials, when you hear their commercials on the radio, what do those commercials do they appeal to to my conservative instincts, And you talk about, well, we don't want the government involved in our medical decisions. Well, as a conservative, that

is something that I am generally in agreement with. So if I hear that and don't know that much about the issue, I may be inclined to vote yes on Issue one. But when I you know, when I read the language of the of the proposed amendment for the Ohio Constitution, and then you see how deceptive it is and that that there's no it doesn't talk about adults,

it doesn't talk about parental rights. It leaves those doors wide open for an absolute free for all when it comes to boarding babies up to the moment of person. Well, here here again is the point. I don't I don't want the state telling me what to do in my personal life, except when it when it directly affects another person's life. So I don't want state.

I don't want stint, sax and murder either. Dan, Well, you know what's the state shouldn't tell me whether I can kill this guy or not, because well, I've got my reasons, and he said bad things about my wife, and and he always is letting his kid throw its ball over the fence in my backyard. So I don't want the state telling me that I can't take care of this problem because it's my problem in it. No, No, it doesn't work like that, and it doesn't work like

that with unborn humans either. Well that's again it's a function of the the people who put this campaign together. Again, very clever, but very deceptive and untrue. And the notion that a woman is going to have to and Gary, Jeff, I don't know if you know this or not, but only women can have babies, So I know it's a controversial statement that a woman would somehow not be able to get the care and the procedure is necessary

after a miscarriage. Is just is one of the most horrendous lies that I can possibly think of when it comes to scaring people into voting for a particular political agenda. Well, again, this is an agenda of death. And that's what the other side needs to be pointing out to everyone they know. Dan, two weeks, we'll see what happens. Early voting is on in Ohio right now as we speak, Dan Carroll, the midweek crisis tomorrow night nine to midnight, any idea what you've got planned? A lot more of

what we just talked about. I'll probably have on some guests talking about issue one and and some other good stuff as well. You know, the First Amendment continues to be under attack as well, and I've got some some items on that. And then Mitt Romney, Mit Mitt Romney, the man who had who had Barack Obama on the ropes and couldn't close the deal, admitted that that he voted to impeach Donald Trump and had no idea what he was talking about. One of the Dan Caroll, Absolute surprise, Dan Carol,

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from seven hundred candy Cornious sucks. Now you can relive the greatest moments from our twenty twenty three iHeartRadio Music Festival streaming on into another hour of this nightcap for Tuesday Night, October twenty four, twenty twenty three, Gary Jeff Walker Land to fire up the fur ball, who's usually fired up anyway, but sometimes you've gotta do a little fluffing around the edges just to get him going a little bit. And I don't try and purposely do this. It's just

more fun when he gets a little fired up. Oh it is? It a little bit more fun one it gets and they fired up. Yeah, I'd ma laid dormant today, and see how you like that. You're going to be laid back, Lenny. You gonna be laid back. I'm not gonna do that. I do have a question to run by you, because you know you like the wizard of ours. You're the guy behind the curtain. You have all the answers. Okay, are you ready? And I'm not here to toot my horn. I'm just telling you basically what I did

and the results of what I did. I wrote an opinion piece for the Citsani Inquirer which appeared in Sunday's paper. It was about believe it or not, the vaccine and Travis Kelsey, who basically is now doing commercials for Pfiser, all right, and he's basically going on with his mom Donna, saying that, you know, people should take the flu shot and the COVID booster shot. That's what he's saying, all right. That's probably getting paid fairly

decent money from Pizon to shoes. Perhaps, I don't know, we both don't know, but he's getting good money. I'm sure Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback, the lame quarterback for New York Jets, is calling a mister Pfizer and basically, you know, poking fun at him at Travis because you know, Aaron Rodgers was certainly against the vaccine, and that's his prerogative. You know, your body, your choice, do what you want to do.

And really and truly, my whole thing is this. After I wrote that article, I've had seventy plus comments, mostly negative towards me, and it was just my opinion and it didn't say anything at all in the world about me taking the vaccine or not. I'm just saying hooray for Travis Kelsey, who stuck his head up above water to basically stay this and do this. Yeah, I get it. He's getting paid. And here's the bottom line. Here's the question of the day. Do we as consumers, do we

as the public at large? Do we trust or believe or should we believe that what athletes say and do? What do I mean by that? For years, athletes have hawk products. Way back in the day, the great Ted Williams was stilling commercials for cigarettes and after that if you remember those comical Miller Lite commercials, remember those ye, the athletes Mark Thromberry, they were great. Okay? Does that make you want to drink middle life even more

so? Because they do it? Do you want to smoke cigarettes more because Ted Williams did it? Now? Are you not going to take the vaccine because Aaron Rodgers says no? Or should you because Travis Kelsey says yes? I leave that in your lab. Are athletes to end all for what people should do in life? Well? If they are, those people have very very sad pathetic lives, thank you, you know what. And I have never used a product because a celebrity or an athlete that I admired endorsed that

product. You got it from the You got it right from the beginning. It's all about the Benjamins, It's all about the green Buddy it's all about that cash. And I guarantee you, although you don't know and I don't know, this is the specifics of the monetary contract with Travis Kelcey. He got paid big bucks. The only reason they're pushing this stupid vaccine still, Andy, is because they have to generate this big money for all of the

money they spend in research and in advertising to push it. They've got a lot of vaccine on the shelves and there it's it's not flying off the shelves like it was back when people thought it was going to be mandated. Right, So co marketing geniuses or involved Pfizer or the vaccine in general, believe that an athlete could help them push it. Correct. I mean, you know, Joe Blow is not going to do it, but an athlete they think could push it. And I just don't think. I think most people

think the way you do, and I do that. I have never gone out of my way to buy a car cigarette. I don't smoke cigarettes or anything else in the world beer because an athlete has done it, Andy, I think that probably are people that do. Andy, You're forgetting that while we are making complete sense, Well, we are grounded enough and have enough of information system and belief system to make our choices with what we know or what we think we know. We are surrounded by a lot of really stupid

people in this country. You know that. Yeah, But I'm being hypocritical by even bringing this topic up because you, as well as your peers at the Big One seven hundred wow, while behind the microphone on a daily basis, hawking products hoping to general public will purchase those products, be it cars, be it MGM, gambling in the casino, or anything else. Right, So it's the same thing I said, and it is exactly the same

thing. But I feel like I'm not a hypocrite. I feel that I can be totally free with my response to this particular conversation because I do not have an endorsement deal, right and the people like anybody else. In fact, I think I'm the only on air personality who may not have a gambling deal, you know, where where I'm endorsing a gambling site or whatever.

I don't have any endorsement deals, so there are no strings attached to me, my brother, and I'll tell you right now, if in fact I was full time as I once was at the Big One, I don't think I would hawk a gambling deal simply because I don't gamble. You know, how can I go on behind the microphone tell people to please take your heart, earn cash and money and go to X, Y or Z and gamble. Maybe I'm stupid, Maybe I'm old schools. Maybe it's foolish. I

am my populas. I'm turning away potential money and revenue. But I just wouldn't do it. Some people are just very easily influenced dandy. In fact, maybe it's a majority, and some people are just plain stupid, as I pointed out a few moments ago, and that's why endorsement deals work. I'm sure there is power in the voice of seven hundred WLW or in certain

personalities who have big audiences and are very popular. I understand that. And some people just like to be close to those people they emulate on the radio or on tea or they see on the football field. They want to feel close to them. And so, yeah, it does. It has some resonance. It rings true for some of those people, just not me. And let's go back to that Travis Kelsey situation. Now that Travis Kelcey is on almost every other commercial on television when I watch TV after the football games

as well. I mean, we can honestly say that I believe that he probably more so than Patrick Mahomes his teammates Pat Travis Kelsey isn't about the face of the NFL. He is. Yeah, I mean I don't mind he No, I don't. I mean, I don't mind that he's the face of the NFL. If that's what you think, I tell you what though, Taylor Swift's appearance in the booth there while Travis is playing, and she was back at the game this Sunday in Kansas City. Her appearance has certainly

spiked the sale of his jerseys since she's been hanging around. So that's what's a celebrity endorsement of sorts, is it not? And it's working right well. I mean, look, there are people that don't need to be told

to buy any certain Niners. But if you remember when Taylor Swift came to Cincinnati for a concert, I would think that any woman from the age of twelve, maybe up to thirty five or forty was wearing some sort of Taylor Swift garb, some sort of sweaterd jersey, skirt, whatever it may be from Taylor Swift and she probably didn't have to hawk that, but they just

wanted to wear it anyway. Right, it's no different in Beatlemania. It's no different than any other uh fad phenomenon, uh you know, some kind of I remember Elvis watching The Mickey Mouse Club and I wore a Davy krockt hat I had a Davy krockt hat I remember that? So did you have the Mickey mouseiars you had the Mickey Mouse hears? I know you did, you did, admit it. I remember watching the Club. I don't know

if that I ever had the ears, although that's good. Although as a two year old I did have a crush on a net funeral cello food of cello, but I was I was only you know, months out of breastfeeding at that point, so maybe that's why. Well, I hear what you're saying. You know what, Today is the twenty fourth of October. It's the fourth I know. But back in nineteen seventy two, on this date

is the day that Jackie Robinson passed away. No kidding, yes, yes, I follow that because these are like I'm not going to say my heroes. These are the guys that not even that I emulate. I study. Let's put it that way. I study. I enjoy reading and talking and kind of seeing things about them. And as with old Rachel, with old Rachel right now, she's one hundred and one, So Rachel is still with us. Yes, he's one hundred and one. Can you believe it?

God bless her. That's that's amazing. Now booked on the radio several times. You know, Rachel a wonderful woman. Really well. Robinson Foundations talk to a lot of people on the radio sometimes. No, the great number forty seven, it's not that you necessarily, it's not necessarily. Yeah, forty seven is when he came up. Number forty two. I'm sorry,

but here's here's the thing. I don't think that you have to really have hero worship or be crazed about somebody that's that trailblazing or that that amazing in it. The story is so amazing you can't help but study it and admire the person. I think, right, don't you know that A great point? Yeah, you know, as much as I love sports and follow sports and it's been such a big part of my life, I can't say I hero worship. However, I will tell you this much. There are two

or three athletes that I was in awe of meeting and talking to. That's that's all I gotta say. Really, And you know one of them was Pete Rose was Sure, which I ended up in a Philly good friend ship with him when I worked at the racetrack and then I got into radio, so I'd have to say he was one of them. You had a fairly good relationship when you worked at the racetrack with Pete? Is that if you

know? Remember I came to town. I was the pr director of old Antronia Racecourse and Pete used to kind of frequent that place almost on a nightly basis during the week. Odd that you would see me, Dick Andy, what's wrong with that? And who was? Who was the other athlete that you admire or you? Well? I mean that taught me I had I talked to It is a funny story. One of my first sponsors ever was

a good friend but named Ron Jurgens. He had a company called Stacey Storage and Movie which is no longer in existence, and he used to go fishing with Ted Williams all the time. To late Ted Williams and one Sunday morning when I was doing Sunday Morning Sports talk with my buddy Tom Dinkle. We started way back when he was fishing with Ted Williams and called us up and

we had Ted Williams on the phone. So that was huge. And uh, and I have to say Serena Williams, you know she when she came here for the Western and Southern Tennis, she was on the phone me one time. So those are three o the big names. You know. Bob Knight, you know, as big as he was, I was maybe intimidated somewhat because he gave me the ground rules. He says, Okay, Andy, I'll go on with you, but here's the deal. A half hour, no commercials, no phone calls. That was Bob Knight's deal. And

that's what we did every year. But other than that, you know, not many others. You know, Phil Belichick has been big. Just to get him Almos a big deal, I know, But I mean, was he any more elaborative than he is at this press conferences after games? I mean no, I mean that that's the funny thing. The name is big, but when you talk to him and you hang up and say, wait a minute, I mean, really, he didn't say anything, you know that. I mean, Pete was great, Peter, talk about anything at

any time. Just just keep on going. You can go to the bathroom, take a shaved shower, and you know what else. I've interviewed Pete, Marty front of Marty No. So uh So you're you're talking to You're talking to Pete Rose, talking to Serena Williams, You're talking to Rachel Robinson, the widow of Jackie Robinson. You're talking to all these people that you have a great deal of admiration or maybe awe of. And that's all understandable.

I mean, those are those are singular kind of individuals. Those are people that you don't run into in your everyday walk of life, even if you're in this business. So I I and I get that, and I understand why you would be kind of little whoa man. This was bigger than I expected, bigger than me, and and was I big enough for the

moment in dealing with these people? I understand that. Yeah. Part part of the situation, also, I think you could relate to this is that when you talk to an athlete who has basically made it on that big stage, and it is somewhat older than you, a veteran in their field, and it's great in their field, and you on your way up when you're young. The fact the age difference is the fact that now that you're older and most of the guys I talk to really are younger than me. You

know, it's different. It really is a lot different. Don't you agree with that? Oh? Yeah, As an older person, I really couldn't give an iota less what Travis Kelcey decides to put into his body for money. You're absolutely correct. I wanted to ask you one I wanted to ask

you one thing about next Sunday's Bengals game. Do you think do you think that Zach Taylor and the Bengals, not the players, but the coaching staff and the people in the organization are kind of looking at next Sunday's game in San Francisco against the forty nine ers after they've just dropped two games in you

know, close fashion, Are they going, Oh crap? We couldn't have picked the worst time to play San Francisco because it seems to me, like, man, the Bengals could go out to the West Coast and really get swamped after the bye, especially after what San Francisco has been through the last in the last two games. No, I think you're entirely wrong, and I'll tell you why, because you know the fact that they did drop two in a row. A the team has lost confidence, the more so than

that the team is injured. I mean, mccaffery's heard he's not playing one hundred percent. Deebo Samuel, he's out. I mean, and right now this Rock Party obviously has lost somewhat of his confidence. There's no doubt in my mind, has lost his confidence. Can't throw the deep ball. I think everybody knew that when he was drafted, and that was the scattery pron this guy. So I think the Bengals are probably looking at chops, really are I mean, they got a healthy Joe Borrow who rested this week.

I think it's wonderful, I really do. The forty nine ers have a well coached team. Kyle Shannon and has done a great job out there. Brock Purty has proven that he can stand up, and I just think they're more like the wounded animal than the animal that's lost. They very well bit, but they don't have the talent to combat it. I mean, I think that you know when brock Party was throwing those interceptions they have night.

He's probably looking in the back. They'll say, where's Depot, where's McCafferty, I mean, and they're not there. These are the guys that bail him out, and they're out there to bail him out. I think it's great for the Bangers, although I will say this much as a proven football fan, I'd like to see teams beat other teams that I root for at full strength. It's like going to a Broadway show and seeing the beatcast. It's like the the the understudies. You know, I don't want to see

that. I want to see the main performers. Maybe I'm crazy, you know, if I'm a season ticket holder, I don't want to see backups. I want to see the main guys we want to do. You know, look, let me run this by you. Kyle Shanahan has done a great job. He's a he's an offensive mastermind. But he's got the personnel. You'll put Kyle shan in Shanahan in Carolina and see what he does.

See if he turns that team around. I don't think so. And our coach is as good as his personnel and proof of the pudding is Bill Belichick, but and I love Belichick, He's my guy. But no Tom Brady, He's been subbed five hundred since that time. You gotta have to personnel now excellent. I mean, and a great coach can lose with bad talent, and a bad coach can win with great talent. But there's not a lot of terrible coaches in the league. There are some teams that don't quite

have the roster to compete with others. So we'll see what happens. Fur Ball. You've you've kind of been laid back Lenny tonight. But it was good. We had a good conversation about what I have no idea, but we we listen to it again, listen to it on the podcast. Yeah, I hope they hope they actually post the podcast of this show for a change. They better, they better. I think it's something else. Before we leave, I'm thinking of calling seven hundred WW management for this segment.

I want to go out and sell it and make a little cash. How's that Because if Travis Kelsey can make some cash getting needles in his jaded on there, I can make a little money talking to you. So I'm gonna be doing that I'm sponsor, and you do whatever you feel like you need to do. Just leave me out of it. Thank you. The fur Ball on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. It's really pretty simple. The rain helps the grass sprout from the earth. The quiet deer lowers its head

and eats the grass. Then I shoot the deer, dead, skin it, cook it, and ate it. While listening to Bill Cunningham, I think they call that the circle of life. Damn good jerky, Bill Cunningham tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred WLW. In this week's Marketers Report, Dana Nusbottom, Executive vice President, it's time for some tech talk or it guy from Intrust to you. Dave Hatter joining us once again on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Good evening, Dave, Hey, Garret, Jeff,

always my pleasure to be on. Appreciate the ft. You try to raise awareness about these crazy issues. We're all facing them. The metaverse swallowing us AI like like our bad intelligence wasn't enough. Now we're going to get bad intelligence from machines like predictive policing. It's software software that somehow can predict crimes, only it really can't what do you know about this, Dave. Yeah, so Wire did a big story on this, and they're not the

first ones to cover this, you know. And it's reminiscent of the movie and Minority Report if you've seen it, where you know they predict where crime will be. And you know, my concern with all of this technology here, Kiff, We've talked about so much of this stuff before. I don't recall this particular issue, but it's all Most of my concerns are all related as a guy who's spent twenty five years writing software. Now, I wasn't

working on software like this, wasn't doing artificial intelligence. But you know I could tell you, I mean a human being, I make mistakes like every other human being. I mean I treated hundreds or of thousands of bugs over twenty five years in creating software. So you know, even with the best of intention, it's impossible to write software of any complexity without bugs in it.

And then you throw in the artificial intelligence angle, large large language models, you know, statistics, probability, all the stuff that makes this work, and the idea that you're going to be able to build a system that

can predict crime. To me, it's just fanciful at best, because you're still in a place where a there can be inherent biases in the software algorithms, you know, the rules the programming that make these decisions, and then be the data that you train it with, right, garbage in, garbage

out, that the old maxim is still true. So I wasn't at all surprised to see when they did this study, they took a look at one particular police department that bought some software from a company called Geoltica, and they found that it was accurate less than one percent of the time. Now think

about that for a second, less than one percent of the time. You know, you'd probably better off just to you know, throw darts at a board, and you'd probably come up with a higher probability rate of accuracy than one percent. I mean, it's really almost insane. Well, well, I mean a human dave, a human detective who has any experience at all is going to be right. Probably I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt seventy five eighty percent of the time. So I think it'd be a

lot more than one percent. No, no question, that would be better than this. Yes, that would be better than this, Because they didn't even get to one percent. You know, I think you're just said, your gut hunch is way better than what this pretictive software has demonstrated it can

do, and it doesn't surprise me. But I agree. And you know, the downside of this too is you know, the waste of resources, the possible bias, and the people that are going after I mean, it's not just they spent money on said that that doesn't work, which isn't all that uncommon in the government oriented space, but you know, there's a lot of potential downsides to using a tool like this that's making predictions that are obviously

inherently wrong. Well, think about the algorithm algorithms that we all found out about with Facebook, which was kicking people off making arbitrary decisions about their content because it was built into the algorithm to do so. They could do the same thing with predictive policing software, so they could they could predict and possibly arrest someone for a crime strictly based on their social score or their politics.

You know that. Yeah, that's certainly within the realm of possibility for sure. All Right, Dave Hatter, what are the three biggest social media scams operating right now for people to watch out for. Well, I'm sure none of these will come as a surprise to anyone, but this is based on

information from the Federal Trade Commission or the FTC. And you know, I would just remind folks that when you think this can never happen to you, you know, even if you don't use social media, keep in mind that's just one of the many channels the bad guys have to get at you. Now, whether it's email, which people obviously use for work and for personal

purposes, it's text, it's social media. They're going to go wherever there are people, right And one of the reasons why social media is a good venue for this good medium to reach people, besides the fact that there's a lot of people using it, is because sadly, most people don't follow basic security practices. It's easy to take over their accounts. I would bet you right now there's someone listening who's either had their account taken over or knows someone

that has. I know many people personally, including businesses, that have had their pages taken over because they have you know, let's just say, less than good passwords, and they don't use multi factor authentication. You know that gives the bad guys that additional level of authenticity if they can briefly take over someone's account. So it doesn't surprise me a bit because you're seeing a lot of crime there. The numbers are pretty staggering there. So again this is

coming directly from the Federal Trade Commission. Americans lost two point seven billion dollars. We're at billion with a d not million. Two point seven billion dollars and they're saying that, you know, over the timeframe of January twenty twenty three to June twenty twenty three, so the first six months of this year, just in that time frame alone, the numbers again huge in the hundreds of millions, depending on which type of scam you look at, and they

basically the main ones followed THET three buckets. You've got fraudulent online shopping. You know, you think you're buying something from a reputable person and then you never get it or something like that, right, And that's where the least dollar amounts come in in terms of the scams, but the volume is much higher. You got to take investment opportunities and keep in mind, anything that's

online is easily boofed. Right, I can paint any picture I want through social media and fake websites and so forth to make you believe I'm some sort of wizard and investing, and you know, that's where people are losing the biggest amounts of money on average. And then romance scams, you know, which you know obviously aren't new, and none of these things are really new,

except maybe the online shopping is relatively new, but romance scams. Again, I just remind folks, it's very easy to go online, steal someone's profile or you know, copy everything off of someone's profile and set up a fake profile so you look like a real person and have a lot of information so that you can talk intelligence like that person, paint a picture, and then you know they eventually they get to why I'm going to need some money?

Right, So I would tell you if you're you doing any sort of romantic activities online, as soon as someone starts talking about money and asking about money, you're getting scammed. Right, And that's not just my opinion. The FTC, the FBI and others are warning about these kinds of things. So sadly, you know, it's it's a giant for the bad guys to operate in and get to people who unfortunate are losing lots of money there, Jess, if they're not careful. Well, I mean, you know,

especially for people maybe in my age bracket or older. If you're online looking for love, maybe you should just satisfy yourself by watching the Golden Bachelor. But even for me, even for me, you know, I told my wife, I said, if I wanted to watch old people in love, I just set up cameras around the house. Yeah. I'm kind of in

the same boat as you, you know. So the other thing it kind of related to this was you're talking about people using your heartstrings, tugging at them to get money from you off of the web and these social media sites. Scammers use AI to bag New York City parents for fifteen thousand dollars by mimicking their child's voice. You and I have talked over and over again about this ability with just a few seconds of audio to be able to mimic someone's

voice. Now the deep fakes have gotten even deeper. What do you know about this story, Dave? Yeah, I can't stress enough how concerned I am about this whole idea of deep fake voice cloning. So when you hear people talk about AI and deep sakes. You might also hear the term synthetic media, which is kind of a catch all term for any sort of content generated by an AI platform. Could be photos, could be video, could be audio. These things are all easy to do and readily available, and

I really I'm not exaggerating. I encourage people to go see it for themselves. You can go do a search. I wouldn't use Google, you know, I'm not a fan. I'd use start page or dot goo or something.

But just do a search for voice cloning. You will find websites that you can go to and with no previous knowledge, no previous skill, and no cost, record a voice or if you have access to a voice, and I'll come back to that in a set, I can upload it, train their model, and I would guarantee you that with just a little patient, in less than an hour, you will be able to clone someone's voice for free. It will literally cost you nothing to do this. I've done

it. I know for a fact. This is the state of things right now. So when people say, well, how would they get my audio? Well, my immediate response is, do you have a voicemail? If I call your personal phone or your work phone. Do you have a greeting on your voicemail? If the answer is yes, I can simply record that and within a few minutes I will be you. Now, you know, the quality of these things vary. These three things aren't going to be as

good as something that's in a government lab somewhere. But you know the New York Post and the story that you mentioned, and this fifteen thousand dollars scam, you know they're hitting you at it with multiple angles. It's not just the fact that they've cloned you a loved one's voice. They're catching you off guard with a social engineering angle too. Right when you get the call, they're distraught, they're crying, they're screaming, they're in trouble. They need

money right now. In many cases, they'll be working with a second scammer who's going to get on the phone and claim to be you know, Joe Doakes from the Hamilton County Sheriff's office, or you know Sally Smith from the FBI or whatever. They're social engineering you at the same time, they're playing a voice that, in most cases, and especially if you don't know that this is a thing, is going to sound with no effort whatsoever. At

least eighty percent could. So you catch someone in the middle of the night, they're sleepy, they're not expecting this, they don't know about this. It sounds very realistic. Sadly, you know, again this isn't my opinion. This has now been in the news many times. And this grandparents scam where they call, you know, at your grandson, Jim, I'm in jail or whatever. That's been going on for a long time. But now

you start this voice cloning angle. And I would remind folks again this could be a voicemail from your boss authorizing the transfer of funds or asking you to buy gift cards. That it could be literally anything. And that's why I'm so concerned about this. I think we're going to see an enormous amount of fraud, not just these consumer oriented scams where you get the grandparents call, but you know scams where the director of the bank calls and tells the CFO

to make a transfer something. It's so critical that people realize how easy this is to do right now, with no previous knowledge, no previous skill, and at no cost to the perpetrators using this stuff. It's out there and easily done. Unfortunately, thankfully this woman didn't get scammed. You know, she kind of came up at the last minute realized wait, something's not right. And of course the tips to avoid this Gary Jeffault, you know, a be aware that this could be a thing, be reach out to that

person. And I think the best advice I've heard so far is to have some kind of passphrase, code phrase, code word amongst your family, right, so that if you get one of these calls, it's something that only your inner circle would know. You ask the question, and you know, if they can't answer the question, well then you're at ninety nine point nine nine nine percent scam. Right. So if you again are aware of this,

you inform your family, you create some sort of secretive passphrase. That would be probably the best way to make sure this doesn't happen to you.

Freedom on the Net report highlights dangers of AI. It says internet freedom declining around the world fueled by advances in artificial intelligence, and according to Freedom Houses new report Freedom on the Net twenty twenty three, governments are using automated systems to ramp up online censorship, while distributors of disinformation are using AI tools to fabricate images, audio, and text. So how does that limit your and my freedom on the net. Well, on the one hand, and it's

interesting. I love the title of their report, the Repressive Power of Artificial Intelligence, and I would encourage people. I mean, you can go find that on your own, you know, take a look at it. But you know, on the one hand, as we just discussed, this technology makes it very simple and very easy and very in extent or free for you know, bad actors to generate content, whether it's text, whether it's audio, or it's video, whether it's photos. You can easily generate texts or

generate content synthetic media. And you know, that makes it easy for the bad guys to ramp up whatever they're doing. It also creates really high quality stuff in those cases, especially texts. So the old tells of oh I got this email and it's fishing because the grammar's bad and the punctuation is bad and it doesn't make sense. Those days are over because I can use these tools, even if I don't speak English, to generate content that is extremely

high quality. So you know, the one point they're making is the bad actors can use these tools to spread this information and misinformation very quickly using things like social media and apps like signal, Telegram, et cetera. Again, you know, all of this stuff cuts both ways, right Gary Jeff. You get amazing convenience, you get amazing reach, you can do all this cool stuff, But on the other hand, you now have this giant platform

to spread things very quickly. And that's always one of my concerns on the negative side of this stuff is you know, there's no one out there that I'm aware of it's created a tool that can say this is synthetic media. At this point, there are people working on it, but no one has perfected that. And you know, the technology that creates this stuff generally is

one step ahead of anything that's going to debunk it. But then the flip side of that is, and you already touched on this before, whether it's Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, et cetera. You know, they're trying to use this technology to tamp down quote disinformation and misinformation unquote, and you know,

depending on where you're at and the laws of that country. The report mentions here, twenty two countries legal framework required digital platforms to use machine learning to remove political, social, and religious speech that doesn't support national ideology, so you know, and then there's another quote here that I think does a

nice job of summarizing it. Quote AI can be used to supercharge censorship, surveillance, and the creation and spread of disinformation unquote, says Michael J. Abramovitz, President of Freedom House. So yeah, you know, sadly all of this stuff cuts both ways, and right now it's not obviously if you're you know, a mainstream media outlet, you can decide what you want to

publish. But if you're a social media site depending and you may have seen, you know, there's been kind of an ongoing battle now with Elon Musk and Twitter slash x versus the EU and their new censorship loss. So you know, the idea that now I wouldn't even need human beings to report something or to go looking for stuff. I'm just going to unleash AI, which

runs twenty four seven thirty sixty five. Looking for stuff and attempt to tamp it down certainly creates an Orwellian type of capability, memory hole kind of capability, if you will. For those of them who out there who are nineteen eighty four fans that you know haven't previously existed certainly not at this level.

Well, and if you want to look at recent examples of social media and disinformation and it being disseminated around the world very quickly, look at the reports that said that from Hamas that Israel had bombed this hospital in Gaza, when in fact it was an Islamic jihadist missile that hit the parking lot of the hospital. But all around the world within minutes, it was, oh my

god, Israel's bombing hospitals in Gaza City. But it wasn't true. But yet again, it was around the world like that, and it sparked all kinds of violent protests in many countries, including our own. So well, and you know, GARYK. Jeff, I don't think it's going to get better anytime soon, because a you have these ways to spread the stuff very quickly, and obviously people will use them for their own political means. And then b you have these tools that can now generate the stuff very quickly at

scale. It's really interesting if you read further into the report. I'm sure this isn't shocking to anyone. China kept the dubious honor of having the world's worst environment for Internet freedom for the ninth year in a row. Although me and Mar where death sentence has been carried out for crimes related to online expression, gave it a run for its money, so I'm sure that's not shocking any well. I'm not planning on going to communist China or me on mar

anytime soon. And now now I'm going to have to rethink my future plans. H Dave Hatter as always my pleasure, my friend, good stuff. Thank you, Garrett, Jeff. Look forward to talking to you. Against it all right, The Nightcap rolls on in minutes on seven LW. Listening to Scott Sloane keeps me from scratching my jocket. People have made some strange claims about the Scott Sloane Show. Listening to Scott Sloan helped me become a

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Tuesday night. It's seven hundred wl W Gary Jeff Walker flying with you and also riding shotgun with Rocco Costelano. We're doing some fitness training over the phone while Rocco is driving his car back from Texas from a Spartan race. Now are you are you? Are you talking on the phone the way witches without

underwear ride their brooms hands free? I am, Well, my hands are actually on the wheel and I am on my aftershocks headgear that I wear for working out and for training and for driving, so that I'm allowed to drive hands free without my hands is on a phone because it is illegal in all the Blue states. Yeah, and almost you know, and now you can't. You could be talking on the phone in Ohio, but you can't swipe in Ohio. That's the new law. You know that the texting rule,

which I think is phenomenal. And Ohio's not a Blue state. Well, and I think that any anytime that you are not a distracted from the road, because right now I'm literally between five five to eighteen wheelers, and it's a good idea to keep your hands on the wheel and your eyes on the road. That's Jim Jim Morrison told you that years ago with roadhouse blues and the doors. Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel

and the wheel yep. And Jim Morrison was absolutely right, because when you're traveling, you know a thousand miles there and one thousand miles back. If your eyes aren't aren't on the road and your hands upon the wheel, there is some nasty stuff that you could see on the side of the road. So this passed week many police officer. Now this this past weekend, we'll get into some of the nasty stuff you've seen. Uh but that was that was mostly a truck stops, wasn't it? And what was her name on

the side? Anyway, you went to you went to Dallas, Texas area for a Spartan race. And again, real quickly, for people who have not heard us talk about this before or don't know anything about it, what the heck is a Spartan race? Rocko Well, I would love to actually talked about the Spartan race because a lot of people really don't know, and we had one. We have one at a Pupping North Slopes every June, and that's the Cincinnati Qua Race. So I think that if they get if

they start training now, they'll be able to actually conquer that. But this, this race that I was at is called the Ultra Our Trifecta, and an ultra race is absolutely insane. It's nothing you've ever seen and nothing that you could have ever imagined in your wildest dreams because it's a fifty k so basically thirty two miles you're actually running, and then you have fifty obstacles that you have to overcome. Obstacles like an Atlas carry, which is a big

one hundred pound borel that you have to carry carry one hundred yards. You have to you have to climb a thirty foot rope, you have to you have to go through what's called a dunk wall, which is basically you're climbing into mud and then freezing cold water and you're swimming through it underneath a wall and then coming out the other side. And then you're running and you're doing you have to lift up, you have to pull on this rope that's got

a really heavy weight. It's called the hercules, voist, and then there's things called the the apepang and the grinder where where they're like monkey bars and you have to pull your weight across about ten yards of these monkey bars, and most people just don't have to stretch. Well, Rocco, tell me you're you're describing the ape hang and the monkey bars are do you compete against primates in this race? Well, I'm gonna tell you there's some beasts.

I'm not Most of these people I don't believe are human what soever mindset. And I mean I think that they they have a genetic makeup from from primate. I would have to believe that. Well, well, just super superhuman genes is what you're talking about. The last time, the last time, the last time I had to participate with a one hundred pound ball, it was because I just suffered a hernia. Well, well, I gotta tell you. They have bucket carries. They got sand bag carries. You have

to carry a sand bag for two hundred yards. You have to carry a bucket, and they used to make you fill your own bucket and then you had to carry the door. But now they fillet for you. Okay, yeah, now they're doing you a big favor right and then, and there were so many people this one because it was so hot it was about eighty five degrees in the Texas in I mean, there was so much dust and it was so dry, and and you had to crawl under under barbed wire.

So if you don't like doing any of this, if you're a press or a worse, it's not it's not a place that you will be happy to be in because most of the people that like to do this don't like it for about four by the hours and effect is so a triffect the week and an ultra triffect the week. And so the ultra is is a thirty

two miles or fifty kb with fifty obstacles. And then you can either do the ultra or the beast, which is which is a twenty two k which is about thirteen and a half miles, and you know, spartan miles. We always call it spart miles because it's opposed to be thirteen and a half miles. But sometimes it's fourteen, sometimes it's fifteen, sometimes it's sixteen, and you don't really know because it's a beast and the beast has thirty obstacles.

And then you have a Super which is which is a ten k and it has twenty obstacles, and then you have the Sprint, which is a five k, which is where a lot of people, well, you're breaking up rock. So you go from a Super to a sprint on the in the same weekend. So that's what the trifector is. Goodness, so you have, yeah, you have a Beast and you do it all in the

same weekend. So you do you you run and do a lot of obstacles on Saturday for the Beast or the Ultra, and then you go Sunday and you do the Super in the sprint and you get a weekend a trifecta metal as well as the other medals that you get for a finishing the Beast, the Ultra or the uh and the Super and the sp. Well, I know that you. I know that you have the recovery tent. That's what you're doing down there. You're helping people uh a after they've competed or getting

getting ready to compete in these different events. Correct, that's what you're doing. Correct. So yeah, so we're changing the name to Athlete Services.

Joe Desenna, the founder of the Sporting Race I used to train years ago when he wanted to do twelve iron Men in twelve months and no one thought he could and he actually did, and so he he he called me in and asked me to build out something the athlete services or a recovery services for something called Spartan Plus a sport, and plus is a membership, a piece of the Spartan a franchise, and I run all of that. I'm the director of Athlete Services now and and it's going to be a fun thing.

I'm going to be letting all the listeners know in the very near future about a crazy, crazy thing that me and my family have decided to do who with this bad race, So I want to keep it under under our hats a little. Okay, okay, okay, Well that'll stay a secret right now for now, Rocko. But what I want to know is, I know you're doing this with to aid those who are competing in the Spartan race. When was the last time you competed in a Spartan race or have you?

I have I have only done a sprint so far, so I am not at liberty to say when I will be because I've been working them. Right, So you know, working them. I got to tell you, working them is like doing a beast. I'm not there's no bs there. It's it's a lot of work because these these are racers and these athletes and the real athletes. These people are real athletes. They go and they give it their role and and with me, I really try to help them not

get hurt, you know. So we're doing so a lot of times a pre race, I'll warm them up, I'll get them stretched. I'll also tape them to before and then after we do we do a compression for our blood float to get the lack to gas set out. We'll get all the metabolic waste that you know, I like we do at Arizona, but we want to get all that metabolic waste out on Saturday so that they can run

and do everything on a Sunday that they are looking to do. And I have can tell you the the the recovery stuff that we're doing is absolutely helping are these these racers get to do another race because a lot of these people, a lot of these people, they they travel like I do to these races of people coming up from from Florida, from Massachusetts, from California.

It's it's so awesome. It's all right. So anyway, then from Rosanna Wellness and trained with Rocco dot Com Roccocostelano returning from the Spartan Race weekend in Dallas, Texas by car. Let me ask you about your actual travel, Rocco. Uh, on the way down, on the way down to Dallas, what was the weirdest thing you saw? Did you see anything really really

crazy? Well? Have you have you heard about anything on the road that was where you felt like, oh geez, this could be it, because that's a long way to travel on the Interstates and a lot through a lot of stuff. So yeah, so it's it's a little weird. I love I love seeing the big things like like the Saint Louis you know, arch right. I love passing that and Bush Stadium. But that's not the weirdest

thing. Some of the weirdest things I've seen are car fires. I don't I didn't imagine that I would see, you know, two or three car fires on the way down Dallas. Well, you know, probably probably those probably damn electric batteries. Well that could be that could be blowing up. Yeah, a lot of a lot of uh, a lot of truck drivers, and I love truck drivers, but I have to tell you they they're not the happiest people on the road sometimes because they do they like to cut

cars off nowadays. So when you're traveling, you really have to be careful and like I said, eyes on the road and and your hands up on the wheel. Because so you're coming back where where are you right now? Are you in Illinois yet? Coming back from Texas? Oh? Oh yeah? Yeah? Are we passed Effingham? Effingham, Illinois? Uh, you know, and we should be hitting terror Hoad anytime soon. I like, I like, you know, I'm familiar with Effingham, and I like Effingham

except for all the people that live there. That's right. And I knew you were going to say something exactly like that. That's why I gave that to you. I just handed that on the silvil flatter play. So I mean you you must like driving. You must like driving, because that's a heck of a long trick, Rocco. It's twelve hours each way. Yeah, well yeah, well I used to drive back back and forth from Cincinnati

to a New Jersey and New York when I first moved to Cincinnati. You know, a little over thirty years ago, and it doesn't work bother me at all. My kids are whipped me, my wife's whipped me, and it's it's awesome. It's just an awesome thing to see a nature now, you know, like before all the all the leaves on the trees are changing, you get to see I've stole upon livestime and I'm a little kid at

heart, I really am. I love seeing cows, I love seeing asses, I love seeing don gys and oh, if you're going to travel, cow spotting has got to be number one priority with me. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean I love seeing the ghost. And we saw an alpaca farm where all these alpacas and I would like, wha, I want to stop? You know, yeah, alpacas are a lot better than a lot better

than wind farms or solar farms. Roco, listen, thanks for taking some time on the road with us, and we'll talk to you Saturday morning. Train with Rocco dot Com. Razanna Wellness at five sixteen five nineteen Madison Avenue in Covington, and you probably catch him to the Spartan race near you. He says, there's one coming up in Perfect North next June. The Cincinnati Spartan race, so more details on that to come. It's the nightcap.

Mike Reader from Mike's Music joins us in minutes on seven hundred WLW. Sometimes I get a little hungry in the afternoon, but instead of reaching for junk food, I pull out a healthy pack of number one Shogun dried cuttlefish. The Crunchies dried cuttlefish guaranteed the perfect salty fish munch you while listening to Eddie

and Rocky, Dried cuttlefish is an excellent source of protein and calciu. Eddie and Rocky are an excellent source for local issues, one of the kind interviews and fun times Eddie and Rockey More afternoon at three on seven hundred WLW. There's only one thing we love better than football, and that's tailgating. And there's no better way to enjoy both than in a new Ford f one fifty. Hey, why not talk about the music Man? And I'm not talking

about the music hold the music Man. I'm talking about Mike the music Man from Mike's Music and also the theater there in Covington. To talk about that and much more. Revisiting with Mike Reader, how are you doing, Michael I'm great, Gary, thanks for having me back on No great, It's always great to have you. He's got great stories. He has entertained world famous guitarists in his mitst to have come to his shop to shop and to

look and anything. Anything you can tell us about today. Just you want to drop some names on us, We'll be happy to hear you drop some names. The one thing I definitely want to say is that we have this great show come up the Village Theater. We have Christian Lenney, who is the Acoustic Guitarist of the Year and she is playing with Tree, so I want to make sure I plug that and that's coming up on November, Yeah, November fifth, which is a Sunday Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, that's

going to be killer. And she's just amazing. If people are familiar with like Tommy Emmanuel, she's similar in that vein Okay. Yeah, she sings too though. But it's really really good and I'm really looking forward to that show. But as far as the store goes, yeah, we got we got some cool. It's been really insanely busy, Like the last couple of weeks, it's we've had tons of people come through, you know, if you want me to drop some names, Like the Dylan band came through and

they they were in town for a couple of days before the show. Now, who was this I missed the name? Who was just Bob Dylan? Well, but Dylan wasn't with him this time because he flew in the last minute. But I did get to go backstage and that was cool, and they they hung out the store for three days and we just had a grand time. Man, they came to our Wednesday night, jammed down at the theater. Well you know, no way. Yeah, let me let me ask you, Mike, let me ask you. Bob Dylan's band used to

be the band Robbie Robertson and those guys back in the day. Who was who's playing with Bob? And are they his contemporaries or are they younger musicians that are just just really well traveled younger musicians. Yeah, so a lot of younger guys. He's had the same bass player for a long time. He's got Bob Britton on guitar, and a new guy out of Nashville named

Doug. I can't think his last name right now. And I've like become really good friends with Jason his guitar tech and just the whole crew, and you know, it was so much fun because they hung out the store. We did you know, guitar deals, We did a lot of trades and we ended up going to actually watch Kiss together and then tell me about tell me about Jane and Paul on their fiftieth farewell tour. How did you find

that whole experience? You know, I'm not like a huge Kiss fan, but when I when I see the Kiss show, I think of it as like going to the circus. Man. It's it's an experience, you know, and it's just they put on a hell of a show that's just amazing as far as pyrotechnics and the lighting, and it's just a whole thing. It's it's amazing. It was cold, you know, we got to go backstage. I saw some of the gear and it was it was a fun time, you know. And then Chris Stapleton came in a week or two

ago and bought some stuff. And we've just had a run of like a lot of good acts come through town and hang out the store. So yeah, it's been a great time. But yeah, if you've never seen Kiss Love, you got you gotta do that they say it's the final tour, but you know how that guess no inten, no, no, Mike. It's been the final tour for twenty five years. It's been the farewell tour for thirty years. These guys don't know the meaning of the word quit.

But you know what, in all fairness, you know, I'm getting up there. I'm a little long in the tooth. I'm forty three years in the business. I'm getting into my early sixties, and I could tell you next week it's I'm gonna start my final year and that'd be total bs because I know damn well. But as long as I'm physically and mentally capable and somebody will let me do it for them, I'll be doing this as long as I'm you know, breathing breath. More than likely, it's just something

that I do. I don't know why anyone it would either. The only reason you would have that many farewell tours is that you're just a greedy sob Well, you know, they like planning, you know, But the thing is that vocally, you know, when you reach a certain age, it's really tough on the singers, and sometimes that that puts an end to it. You know what I'm saying. It's just one of those things where you

just can't hit the high nuts. Well that's what That's what Steve Tyler is going through right now with canceling the all these Aerosmith tour dates that was supposed to be their last tour. They plan, they say, they're going to reschedule, but he has done great damage to his vocal cords over the years. And when you hear somebody like Steven Tyler, you understand why. You know, yeah, you know, and there's things you can do, like you know, a lot of the pitch and stuff of the songs, but

there's only so far you can go. And then you know, it's like sometimes the reality of that that that puts the end of things. So you know, you never know, but you know, if anybody will keep going, you know, kiss will So Yeah, who was in your time And there probably been a number of occasions, Mike Reader, But in your times, in your meetings with different people who surprised you the most as far as what you what your preconceived notion of this person was and what actually transpired.

You got any stories like yeah, probably like Tom Waits was one of the surprises I had. I actually feel like we became pretty good friends, you know, hanging out because he came to the store for like three days. What did you expect. Did you expect a just a drunk, kind of off to himself kind of guy or what I didn't you know, I'm I expected him to just be kind of aloof and and honestly, when he first came in the first day, it was sort of like that, you know,

he had a small usher, aws and stuff. But by the third day, it was it was like just hanging out with then you know, a buddy talking gear, you know, and recording and stuff. And then the next thing that pops to mind is you know Frampton or you know, there's just spent so many people. Vince Gill was like one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. See, that's that's what I would expect, just from what I have heard other people say and just the demeanor,

I'd expect Vince gil to be just a great guy. You talked about the Peter Frampton story with us previously, and you didn't know who it was at first. I remember that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was the one that acted poorly in that meeting. But Joe ash was cool. I got to go see Joe, and Joe was He couldn't have been nicer.

And I guess my image of Joe was like the crazy party guy, sure, because I'm like a huge fan of The Who and Joe and it was one of those guys used to do crazy stuff, throw things out windows and stuff. But when I met Joe and he was on the you know, past that stage of his life, so he was like super nice, just one way out of his way to be kind to us. Yeah. My one interview with Joe Walsh, I I just found him to be very funny and very cool. Hilarious, Yeah, super hilarious. What time was

that? That was? That was when the Kentucky Speedway was opening and Joe Walsh came to play a concert. Is kind of like a christening of the place before there was ever any major NASCAR race, which of course there aren't anymore at Kentucky Speedway, but he was there to play a concert at the track and it was kind of like the opening year of the Speedway and that was it. I mean I went out for the show and had interviewed him on the phone a couple of weeks before good stuff. It probably past his

wild stage. Oh no, no, no, it had been so long since Joe had had a nip out of a bottle or a hit off of anything else. But you know what, I believe that there is such a thing as as residual resin. It does last for a while, I guess so, just from the conversation. Okay, tell me, tell me the name of the artist that's playing at the Village Theater and when it's November fifth, Christy who November fifth? November fifth is Christy Line. She's Acoustic Guitar

Player of the Year. She's a fingerstyle International Guitarist of the Year, and she is amazingly talented. And one of my bands called Tree is going to open up, which works sort of like a prog rock experimental band, and that's always an adventure. Yeah, if you guys could come out, it starts at seven and the doors are at seven. The show starts at seven thirty, so I can't wait for that show. Make sure you come out to the Village Theater down there Mainstrass. All right, buddy, thank you

for your time tonight. Mike Reader from Mike Music in the Village Theater and we'll talk again soon brother. Thanks, Yeah, let's do that song. Thanks Gary. Okay, yeah, we're working on a Jimmy Buffett tribute song that I wrote that still hasn't still hasn't come to fruition as of yet. Up next, we will close this nightcap with my bride, Chris to two point zero and her NFL picks for week eight ahead. I'm sure you're chopping at the bit to find out what she thinks because she is a couch She's

a couch expert when it comes to the National Football League. Well, she watches the games with me anyway, seven hundred WLW. Now you can great epiphany when I found out that my wife liked to watch golf with me on Sunday, but she's always been a football fan. And with the explosion of gambling on the NFL now legally almost everywhere in the country, I figured that any kind of help that you the listener can get when it comes to making

your wagers for the week ahead, you should have that advantage. And I'm going to tell you she is a savant. She once picked a try fecta in the Kentucky Derby. So do not discount the prognostications of my wife christ to two point zero when it comes to watching watching the football. So are you there, honey, Yes, I am all right, and you're ready with your picks. Now, we're not doing we're not doing point spreads.

We're just doing who's going to win the game? Okay, So all right, So this is the money line here for each of these games for Week eight in the NFL, Chris the two point zeros picks. Make sure you've got a piece of paper and a pen or pencil out to write these down. We're going to go through the whole schedule very quickly. If you're ready, I'm ready. Let's go. Thursday night, it's the Buccaneers pouring their bucket helmets, bucking helmets over their bucking heads to face the Buffalo Bills in

Buffalo. Who wins this game, Krista, I think Tampa will take them. Okay, going with the Buccaneers. The Giants live in Florida. I gotta go with Tampa. Okay, all right, well you don't. You don't live in Florida anymore. You live in Cincinnati. Okay, all right. It's it's the Battle of the Empire State when the New York Jets take on the New York Giants and they play the game in New Jersey. Who wins Jets? Jets at Giants? I gotta say Jets, any reason why?

Just because the Giants aren't they could No, they're not. In spite of our friend bait shot Paul Hype Jaggs. Play the Pittsburgh Steelers. Go Jags. You just take the Steelers. The Eagles are in Washington to play the redsk I mean Commanders. Who wins the Eagles Washington game? Hopefully the Eagles? Okay. The Rams are in Dallas to face off against those cowboys. How about them Cowboys? Or will it be the Los Angeles Rams winning that game? It's gonna be the Cowboys. You want to be a cowboy?

You want to be a cowgirl? Okay, good get her pronouns right, folks. The Vikings are in Green Bay to play the Packers. Got to go to the Vikings or Purple. Yeah they won last night. The Falcons the Falcons against the Tennessee Titans in Tennessee in Nashville. I'm going Titans, you know. I gotta go with the Titans, all right. The Texans versus the Panthers, Oh, that's a cos that's a guess well, I'll take the Panthers, all right. Uh, the Patriots and the Dolphins.

As much as I hate it the Patriots, Oh you think they're on a little roll here? Now, this is the Dolphins team that's been pretty good, pretty explosive. Uh. The New Orleans Saints versus the Indianapolis Colts, and I know who you're gonna pick already. You know I'm gonna pick the Saints. Yep, that's a Homer pick. Remember, you can't always pick with your heart, honey, Sometimes you gotta pick with your head. The Chiefs and the Broncos, and you better say one team. Let me

get chee. That is correct, the Chefs. Kansas City continues their march to the AFC Championship and then another Super Bowl. And the Browns and the Seahawks used to live in Washington State. Does that influence your decision at all? Well, I hate the Browns because Cincinnati. So there's got to be the Seahawks, and yes, I love the Seahawks. The Baltimore Ravens up against the Arizona Cardinals out in the desert. Who wins this game? You

know? I love me some Larry Fitzgerald, even though he doesn't play anymore. I'm going with the Cardinals, Bears, Chargers in Los Angeles Chargers. The Raiders face off against the Detroit Lions. I'm going to the Lions. I just don't like the Raiders. Their mean never like the Raiders. Never ever like the Raiders. And finally, my dear who day, Cincinnati Bengals taken on the San Francisco forty nine ers in a matchup that maybe has lost

some of its luster after San Francisco's last two losses. But what do you think the Bengals coming back after the bye week facing off against San Francisco. They're all time Super Bowl nemesis. Who manages to eke out a win in San fran this coming Sunday afternoon? I think it's could be a day weekend. All right? There you go, Christas picks and we'll see you know what, We're gonna look at what your record is. Did you remember all the teams you picked? Oh no, well, I've got the sheet here

at home. I'll let you know, okay, and we'll find out what your percentage is like for next week. I've got allergies, that's okay, that's okay, as long as it's not the VID. We're fine, No, okay, thank you baby, I'll see you soon, all right. Bye. Christ the two point zero with her picks this week in the NFL. I hope that helped. And with that, I leave you with the National Anthem to honor America. The Star Spangled Banner closes us out tonight on seven hundred W l W