On seven hundred W l W. Garry Jeff Walker act here service, and we are talking with our friend Scott Howell. Scott Howell Donald the Rites, Donibalism. He's the author of Rediscovering America, and he's been a guest so many times on the Nightcap because he's just so good and what a great thinker and writer. And I consider him my friend as well a brother in christ.
Scott Powell. We're at We're really at a turning point, at a precipice, I feel like, and people are waking up, as you say, it may be a little late, but at least they are waking up. And you saw a good dose of that with the caucus results in Iowa last night, with Donald Trump blew out the rest of the competition and the polls said he was going to But the polls, you know, they get a little wacky sometimes and aren't correct. We've seen that over and over again.
But these poles had a debt on the money. Donald Trump wins by more than thirty points over the next the next best vote or caucus vote getter, Ron DeSantis. So just some of your thoughts on that, But let's start with Iowa first and just your thoughts on the heels of that incredible Trump win there. Well, it historically, it is so significant that that the Republican, the leading Republican candidate would win by so much. The margin was
at historic levels. No Republican candidate has ever had as wide a margin between the winning candidate and number two. Uh. So it's it was an incredible victory for for Donald Trump. Uh And the and the reason is very clear. I think most people feel that he is the right man for the times in which we're living. Just as in World War Two, you know, to to finally win the war on the European theater, we needed a very
strong general, a General Patent was his name. And of course he had a foul mouth, and he he sometimes spoke to meaningly to his troops if they showed cowardice. But he was the guy who got it done and brought that victory to a rapid close and saved lives in the concentration camps that were you know, all scheduled to be you know killed. That quick victory was a direct result of his strong leadership. And that's what America needs right now. It needs a clear headed, you know, a man who knows who
the enemy is and is willing to take on the enemy. You know, so many politicians, including Nicki Haley and Ron De Santis, while they are conservative in many ways, Nicki Haley is more of a globalist. Ron De Santis is you know, he's he's my guvner here in Florida, conservative guy. But neither of them articulated what it is that we are up against. It was as though they were politicking, ah, you know, on the basis of business as usual that we you know, you know that that we
we need to win, the Republicans need to win. But really our threats are far beyond uh, the the the old Democrat Party. There's a global a global uh you know enemy now uh that has its hooks in the Democrat Party and is largely using you know, you using their allies within the borders
of America, but also operating outside. And so the United States is really in a very dangerous position, probably the this is probably the most dangerous place America has been in its uh, you know, two hundred and and it's it's it's it's in its relatively short history. And you know what you talk about, these powers that are trying to totally destroy America and the enemy. And it's not you know, like you said, it's not republican versus democrat
it and it's not communist China or Russia. This is a cabal of globalists and they will use whatever power and whatever country they can to assert and assume total control of the entire world. It's not just it's not just China, it's not just Russia, it's not Iran. It's a combination of all three. And the same people are are banking on betting that these countries will be the ones to take them over the top and finally destroy America, absolutely America.
As Donald Trump has said in so many on so many occasions, h he is the one who stands in the way. The real target of the globalists are freethinking people, free freedom loving people, people who you know, want to live their lives and make choices in their lives as they see fit, rather than taking orders from an elite, an elite club, an elite power authority. And Donald Trump is our protector of that because he happens to
share those beliefs. He believes very strongly in individual autonomy, that people have their their freedom should be protected, that they are sacred and that the you know, the the Bill of Rights needs to be upheld. Our Bill of Rights has been shredded in the Biden years. Well, I talked to I just talked to and I was mentioning this to you a man named Tim Hale.
Tim Hale on last night's show, one of the jan six prisoners as they they call themselves, and he was telling me just unbelievable things about his time in incarceration before he finally went to prison, and his cellmate was Antifa,
who was arrested and given a slamp on the wrist. Tim Hale was in jail for almost three years for being on the Capitol grounds on January sixth and going to President Trump speak at the Ellipse and they're they're there's they're talking about rounding up a thousand other people, right, I mean for for for the crime of being free, free thinking, and and having personal liberty and
autonomy and wanting that and and supporting Donald Trump. Please go ahead. Well, and and who who is it that's going to round these people up? Uh? It is none other than the FBI law. You know, the FBI is the main arm of this, you know, this hijacked Department of yet the hijacked Department of Justice and they serve at the beck and call of
the Department of Justice. Department of Justice is an extension of the Biden administration, and so they're going to be focused on hunting down people that happened to be at the January sixth event, which was, you know, which really was an event that was very much in the American tradition of protest, that when when people have grievances about how they're being governed, they have the right
to protest, to petition government. The away you petition is largely, oftentimes by way of large presence in Washington, d C. This is how the this is how Martin Luther King was successful in the civil rights movement. He
mobilized a lot of people. He gave that famous speech in Washington, give several speeches, but it was the I have a Dream speech in front of the Lincoln Memorial that was so powerful in moving the nation and getting government to finally respond in such a way that laws would be changed, that you know that people that regardless of race, there would be equal treatment under the law, equal opportunity, no barriers to entry, upward mobility and so forth,
and so on and that was that was fulfilled to the civil rights movement, and it was fulfilled largely from mass demonstrations that Martin Luther King insisted should be
peaceful, and they were for the most part. And that's what we we gather when the nation gathered, when over a million people gathered on January sixth, the issue was the concern over voting irregularity, vote fraud to be specific in certain states, and so they were petitioning on the very day that Congress was going to certify the electors and or not certify, and that is to say, when the electors don't get certified, they get sent back to the
state to be sorted out. And that's what was that was the purpose of that gathering. The gathering was to show that the American people did not support the results of the election because there were too many irregularities even in that short period of time. People. To let me ask you this, did George W. Bush try and prosecute al Gore for upholding the results of the two
thousand election? And was al Gore called an election denier? Was al Gore and the people who supported al Gore were they targeted by that next administration of course not. It's exactly it's exactly the reverse of what has happened with twenty twenty and how the Biden administration and the people behind the Biden administration have targeted Donald Trump. They targeted him his entire presidency because they did They certainly did.
They didn't want to They didn't want the change that he was promising the American people, and he was in large part bringing to the American people in the country. That's why people have such an affinity for Donald Trump. And what was shown again last night. You wrote this piece in town Hall the about the sixteen point demolition plan in twenty twenty four, and you say, there there are a couple of reasons that people don't recognize what's going on and
what's necessary to save the country. You say, first, there's noah, that's in the introduction. Let me let me explain that, all right, The audience really can understand it because they can relate to it. All. We all have two parts parts of our personality. The way our mind works is that we tend to project into the future what we have known in the
past. That's very normal if you've lived in a country where there was freedom, where elections were were generally run honestly so that the preferences of the people would be manifest and shown through the electoral process, and schools, schools taught
kids, and so forth and so on. And that's really the you know, the memory of so many older people, particularly because they have memories going back to the nineteen sixties and the fifties, and for the real old folks to back further than that, that America worked pretty well and elections were reliable, and that yes the press was biased, but by and large there was a critical media. It would criticize corruption and government if it could find it.
But all of that has been lost, but we still have this normalcy bias. A lot of us still think what was in the past is going to continue to be in the future. So when we think about losing our freedom in America, that for many people they can't imagine it because we've always been a free people. So this normalcy bias can work against our taking action that's necessary because times have really changed and a normalcy bias will undermine us because
we really need to take to the ramparts, if you will. It's really Paul Revere time now. We all need to wake up and we need to change course. We need to take the reins of our country back from the elites. And then the second thing that prevents us from doing anything is this tendency to live in denial. And we tend to denial, deny things that are that are problematic. You know, if something's a problem, we'd prefer to you know, perhaps overlook it and and and deny that it's really the
problem, that it's really a killer problem. And this is, uh, you know, this is something that's part of human nature. So we need to we need to recognize that this normalcy bias and the and the tendency to live in denial of very real problems is we've got to we've got to recognize it. And really we need to now march to a different drummer, and that is we need to get back to the basics of how our country was
founded. Uh, what the role of the press is, what the what we as citizens can do to change things, because we all have more power than we think on the local levels in particular, but we have power all
the way up. Actually, you know, it's said that a congressman, a congress person who receives a two dozen letters or more uh, takes the views of those representatives, of those of those citizens who wrote those letters pretty seriously, because Scott, I have had my my Congressman Thomas Massey in northern Kentucky tell me personally. He said, if I get more than ten calls on a particular topic or piece of legislation, that's when we start to really
notice and realize that this is something our constituents want. So what you're saying is absolutely correct. It only takes a handful of us to tell these elected representatives what needs to happen and what kind of job they can do for us. But you know, one or two times ain't gonna ain't gonna move the needle. But if you you, if you are persistent and this is a real issue where you live, and if you if you actually contact them, even a phone call, and you can get enough people to do that,
you'll see some movement. Oh absolutely, it's really It's absolutely true. So that's that's what we can do as individuals. We can, you know,
we can write that handwritten letter of three or four sentences. We should know, you know, we should you know, and when we're watching TV, we could address a bunch of envelopes you know, to Congress, you know, just to address them, get the envelopes ready, and then when you have time to, you know, to write that short letter of conviction that the congress person needs to listen to your voice and either not vote for this or to vote for it with a you know, with with brevity. You
don't need to write a dissertation. You just need to let let the cars and know that you're a real constituent, that you're you're out there, and that you're watching how they vote. And then should they not vote in the way that you want them to, that you might, you know, vote
to remove them from office. Their goal is to stay in office. So the power of the people is really quite great, Scott, and we're going to have to we're into this segment sadly we're doing well, but we've got another We've got another half hour in the show here to talk about this sixteen point plan for things for people to read. To get your twenty twenty four
season tickets so you don't miss tonight. In this hour, we're chatting with my friend Scott Powell, author of Rediscovering America, a great writer and thinker and a patriot and someone who wants to let you know what's happening to our country and hopefully some solutions to stop what's happening. We know the solution. We've got to get a certain party out of power and weed out all of the behind the scenes globalists and Marxists that are trying to destroy the country.
All right. Number one, this is one of the sixteen point plan that the anti American forces have in store for us, the open border, the Biden open border. Scott talk about that, if you will. We have to understand that this open border is not a new problem. It actually goes back to the United Nations plan to bring in immigrants from the so called developing or third world immigrants into Europe and the United States. This was a plan
they call it. They call it migration replacement migration, and so replacement means that they want to replace citizens of America with migrants who will work at lower wages and who will you know, basically add to the population of non patriotic Americans. You have to understand there's a goal here and Biden. It's so surprising that that Biden would embrace this idea, and that probably is the most I think that's the third rail right now in American pot right, this open
border is killing us. Another one of these points of demolition that they're trying to perfect, and they're having some success with, sadly, is the foundational rights of America, like life, liberty, individual responsibility, and property that have already been weakened. Again, this is not a new problem, but it has been exacerbated and accelerated as we go through the last three and a half four years. Tell me about that, well, we've seen it ever
since the pandemic period in which George Floyd passed away. Uh and suddenly our cities exploded and they began tearing down statues and monuments of historic value, and it was almost like we were so shocked we didn't know what to do about it. Finally, Donald Trump said that, you know, he he established a law that if you if you defate, if you if you tore a statue down, that it was a it was a crime, punishable crime.
But this is part of the part of the goal to destroy our connection with our past, because the new World Order cannot come about if if the American people have memories of their past. So this is a a traditional Marxist strategy is to destroy the past. Anyone knows how Mao took over China. He totally destroyed the memories of uh. You know, a previous generations tried to
tear down any kind of symbol of it had come before. The marginalization and targeting of religion and morality, well, we know what has been going on for a long time, but it's certainly been accelerating. And the idea, you know, when when people lose their you know, this religious foundation, the sort of orientation towards a moral order which God intended for us to live
because you know, it makes us more successful. Family formation, you know, fidelity to your spouse is very, very very important, and keeping a family together and the family is very important to stay together to raise the children who become the citizens of the future. So if you can destroy the family,
basically you've taken a big step towards bringing the nation down. So that process has been going on for a long time, and that ties in that ties into your next point, the removal of religion and belief from God in American schools and cultural institutions and replacing it with the secular progressivism. Yes, and right now what we're seeing in terms of their replacement is really a cultural
Marxist view and critical race theory. Uh. Diversity equity and inclusion, which sounds good, is basically embraces the same uh sort of socialist egalitarian uh you know, communist values. Uh, there's sort of communism through the back door, if you will. And that and that's also going on in another point
that I make about the economy. How how uh corporations have embraced diversity, equity and inclusion, which means that promotion is not by merit, but it's by a racial formula, immunable, immutable characteristics of something that something that you know, we can't change. And that's right. Okay, Let's let's go to this fifth point from the town hall piece where we're Scott Powell and the Nightcap on seven und WLW. This is a sixteen point plan to destroy America
and they're doing a pretty good job at it right now. The ongoing sexual revolution going from homosexuality to embrace the normalization of transgenderism. Scott, Yes, I mean most people have just actually astonished that this transgenderism has has come into our culture, and particularly among the youth, and so many youths are questioning their god given gender identity. You know, we are created by God, man or woman, boy or girl. And those that have tried to change
their gender, I've ended up very unhappy. You cannot change your gender and come out the other side after the surgeries and the hormone treatments and have a normal life, no, to say nothing of being ostracized by society. So this is a crime that's being committed against children and h and we need to stop it, you know, And we're stopping it here in Florida. Yes, it's not naturally occurring. It is being forced by these dark forces we're
talking about and the expansion of class warfare. And and I love Tucker Carlson used to say, this is not a race war, it's a class war and it's being done to bring on total Marxism. Yes, and the class warfare has so many you know, race is part of the class warfare. The class warfare encompasses the old against the young, or or the young against
the old, really marginalizing old people. And and you know the battle of the sexes, which which has been exacerbated, I think by by the feminist movement and then and then most recently you can see a class warfare in anti Semitism. It's another form of class warfare. The class is Jewish people, and we need, you know, we need to harass them, we need to marginalize them, and for some people, they would like to destroy them.
And this is so on American it's unbelievable. And yet look at our leading universities are embracing this agenda pro hamas pro Palestine, anti Jewish agenda. Yah. But this is all part of the plan. It's slice and dice America, Divide America, and you will weaken America and make America impedance the correction country. Yeah, you're right. The corruption of elites inside and outside
of the government, and we're seeing plenty of examples of that. They say that they still can't prove that Joe Biden knew about his son's dealing with foreign governments, when it's the proof is written all over in emails and texts and trips to China and Air Force too, when Joe is the VP. But that's just a that's just a small slice of it. These people, I mean, these are they have a mental disorder. They refuse to be able to acknowledge the truth of things based on the facts. There are so many
facts that prove corruption in the Biden family. It's overwhelming, there is no question about it. But these people go along in denial and they know they have a you know, they have the shield of the media to protect them. But it's all coming to an end, it really is. The American people are waking up all right to the elite capture of traditional and social media by the military industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, and the global intelligence
industrial complex. Can you expound upon that just for at what that has done is it's enabled the control of propaganda narratives that have kept the public ignorance about the most important issues of health, are well, welfare, economics, war and peace. So, you know, the media's penetration by our intelligence agencis goes all the way back to the Cold War period. In the late fifties, it was called Operation Mockingbird, where the CIA had basically controlled at least
forty assets in the major network televisions and in the major newspapers. And this by this way they were able to sort of control the narrative of a foreign policy. And this is this has been going on for a long time. We know that many wars have questionable origins. You know that there was really
not a basis to go to war, and yet we did. And it was largely a function of the intelligence agencies being able to control the narrative, to control what is really a propaganda narrative in the case of in the case of COVID, we know that there was a you know, a narrative that was imposed and that people that opposed the agenda were silenced and de platformed.
And now we learn later through Matt Tyebe and other reporters that the CIA, the FBI, the Department of the Homeland Security, the FDA, they all had portals into all the major social media and the major media where they were basically telling the media how to cover these topics and who to cancel, who to deep platform. This happened. We can't deny this, and we should
be aware that this year it's going to get worse. We were just talking about January sixth in our previous discussion and number eight point the loss of election integrity and the rise of vote fraud. Well, this is you know,
this, this is really the end of the American constitutional republic. If we cannot have honest elections where the voice of the people is honestly expressed through the electoral process, and that we are represented by candidates at every level, Congressional, senatorial, obviously the President's very important, the most important, you might say, all of these need to have been chosen by the people. And when that is undercut and we lose confidence in our elections, which has really
happened now. We have now you know, the twenty twenty election, the twenty twenty two election, which I think there's overwhelming evidence in a whole host of states that the results were fraudulent. The systematic attack on police and law enforcement, well, we saw that really break out in the in the George
Floyd riots, and it's never really changed. The police forces were defunded, they still are are defunded, but they're also also when we don't support our police, uh, we have fewer people wanting to self select to go into that profession. So we have shortfalls in recruiting and in our arm in our
police, but also our armed forces. Now we are we we have shortfalls in every single branch of the military now because young people they see the political correctness, the dei uh, the critical race theory, the lack of patriotism, and they don't want to go in. They don't want to serve their country. The politicization, corruption of the two tier judicial system that has reared its ugly ahead in the country, especially over the last three years. We
hardly even need to talk about that. Just look at what they're doing to Donald Trump. Look at the bogus cases that are being politically driven. These are politically driven cases. They're not real, truly legal cases of you know, of of criminal behavior on the part of Donald Trump or his business enterprises. Uh. And yet they have legs because we have a corrupt legal system. The internal the internal demoralization and weakening of the American military. You just
kind of touched on that because I did. So Let's let's go ahead and go to the Uh. The transformation of the profit based free market system through Dei's cousin e s g. Environment Social governance. Yes, what's happened there is that Uh, individuals and the elites in high places, notably Blackrock, Larry sinkin Blackrock. You have people at Vanguard that that now control a very large amount. They have a controlling interest in many many stocks. All the
major stocks are now in indexes. They call them exchange traded fund Blackrock is probably the biggest issue of exchange traded funds. So a lot of people find this to be a good way of investing their money because they don't need to be a stock picker. They can just buy a whole basket of stocks. But they don't have that means that they don't vote in the proxy process.
You know, all public companies have a voting process. It's Blackrock and it's Vanguard that do all the voting, and they are voting for a transformation of our capital's economy. They want to transform it into a diversity, equity and inclusion, an environmental and environmental agenda, which is the Green New Deal, and they want to they want to penalize you know, traditional fuel what we call hydrocarbon fuel, oil and gas. Those are on the outs and it
goes, it goes on and on. So they they want to politicize, uh, you know, they want to politicize how money is managed, how resources flow. This is a disaster and resources and the global elites, and you just kind of touched on it. So I just want to make sure we get all these in here. You were talking about the transformation of the US energy sector, and that's a part of what you're talking about through the
Green New Deal. And you know, these the people who the actual citizens who get behind this number one are being fed a line of bull h and they're being propagandized. But they also don't understand. Uh, they don't understand what it what it means to our economy and uh and the evils it can it can cause the current trends of the global elite driven consolidation and control of our agriculture industry, and that is that's surprises a lot of people, but
it's true. It's been going on around the world. We saw it in Holland. We seen it recently in Germany with the German farmers rising up because the government, the elites and the government wanted to reduce their their their agricultural footprints. They wanted to reduce farmland, they wanted to reduce all the things that farmers need to succeed, which includes fertilizer, you know. Anyway,
so this is going on in America as well. I mean, we we it's unbelievable that we would have our agriculture, our fertilizer, and our food production supply chain politicized. Yeah, there are farmers, there are farmers. There are farmers still talking about the coming food shortage because of all of this. The increase in the US national debt, that's obviously kind of a no brainer. Thirty four trillion and rising, and uh, you know these are
these are the number. It's the number that most people can even fathom. And I would I would like in the condition that America is in to the you know, to an individual person, a homeowner who basically took all his equity, borrowed all the money out of his house. All the equity is gone, and then the market value drops and so he's really underwater, and he has a credit card that's maxed out. He knows he's going to get foreclosed on. He has nowhere to turn except maybe he can find some other
credit card. Coming to be young enough the loan and money, right, he takes another credit card out bars against that to pay his first credit card. That's what we're doing now, we are borrowing money to pay previously issued debt. Very bad place, Yes it is. Scott Palell, thank you so much for your time tonight. You know that the problems are there, They are stark, they are real and becoming more and more real every day. But there are ways we can fight, and we'll talk about that another
time. Because I'm out of it, I look forward to it. Thanks very Jeff. You do a great you do a great job. You are you do you just do great work your audiences. You're feel blessed to have you. Thank you, blessed to have you. Thanks you, sir. It's the night cap and it's here on seven hundred WLW Kate from baths r US here with a frustrating thing about bathroom remodeling that nobody ever tells you. When the contractor pulls the old tub or shower out, there is almost always
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We don't really go over this ahead of time. And I think it's a remarkable thing that we can feed off each other when there's nothing on the plate, and we do that quite often and quite well, I think, But then again, I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. So how how does the day find you? And are you enjoying this lovely cold spell of arctic whatever the hell this is. I love it because there's no mosquitoes. That's why I love it. I would take really I would,
Andy, I would. I would rather have malaria than this, I really would. So bring on the mosquitoes. It really isn't that bad. It really is. I mean, you know, we know you're not going to stay outside, So what's the difference you're in you're indoors. Did you see any did you see did you see any reads? Mustache freezing? But I guess there was the greatest. I loved it. I loved it. And then and then Patrick mahomes helmet actually cracks from the impact that cold weather.
So I mean, you know what, what you bring up an interesting topic. That's what football is all about. I remember as a kid when it's snow and you couldn't see the yard markers, you couldn't see the lines on the field. That's what football really is. And I had a big discussion
with Bucky Brooks. Bucky Brooks is my Sunday partner on Fox Sports Radio, and I said, Bucking, you know, there is an advantage, there's a definite advantage when you play indoors in a dome and I'll give you two examples, right, Yeah, I think the career of Peyton Manning in Indianapolis who played in the Dome, and Drew Brees who played in New Orleans and the Dome basically had extended careers and better careers because they played in a dome
without the complications of snow, wind, rain, or whatever it may have been. And you can't tell me it is not an advantage by playing inside of a dome. No, there is, absolutely there is. And you're saying basically that, barring some kind of injury, c J. Stroud is going to have a really long career in Houston because he's off to a great start. Yes, I think wherever he could play in the moon and have a great creative guys and unbelievable players, a great leader. It seems to
be a great individual. I'll tell you what. The Carolina Panthers are crazy for passing up in this guy, But that's another story but their own. It is a little nut job anyway, who threw a drink in the stands a couple of weeks ago was find three hundred thousand dollars play, the most he's ever paid for a drink in his life. How do you feel about es? Huh? The most he's ever paid for a driver? Let me continue? Yeah, I know, we continue on this because I just suggest
one other thing. You know, I don't think anybody who's ever brought this up. You think about the super Bowl, which is a tremendous event, and cities go all out. They lay out the red conpetence a bunch of events for three days, three four days of radio row. I've been there several times for about a week. But you know what, you look at the NBA, the finals are always in the home court of the teams that are participants World Series. Same thing. I don't know why, and I
think it could happen and it should happen. Really that you're a paying customer and basically you want to see your team do well, So why can't you support the team? And if they do well, why can't you watch them play in a championship game? And instead of having it on a new tool site. I get it. I've been told by many people that the reason why the Super Bowl is in fact on neutral site is because it takes too long to prepare the events for that and if they waited too long for to
find out who would be participating in the finals. They wouldn't have enough time to prepare for the festivities that are associated with the Super Bowl. Well, you know, that's really simple. At the beginning of the season, you have all thirty two teams make contingencies to host a Super Bowl, and then you find out the last, you know, the last playoff game the AFC and NFC championships. You got two weeks and you've already done the legwork most
of the season, just in case I don't know. Then you move all the heavy equipment there in the last two weeks, so you got two weeks. Like you said, you ask, how do you ask hotels to hold off rooms and they don't use the rooms? I mean, that's it's tough. I understand that, but I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong with the NFL is doing. It's greed. If there's nothing more in Gordon Geck or greed, that's what it's all about. I mean, I see
what they do now. Every team has seven or eight home games now, but they'll take away a home game to play in Germany, Mexico or England, wherever it might be. I don't think it's right for a season ticket holder. Now they're charging on Peacock for streaming, and I get it. It's a revenue stream. That's what we're all about. Hey, look, when I was a kid, well maybe even years ago before, a little older than being a kid, When I was driving, I want to get
here for my car, I was free. Now I go to the gas station, I want to put air on my tires. I gotta pay for it. You gotta pay for everything right now, so you know, yes, you gotta pay for watching football games on TV. Do I like it? No? Well I don't like it. Peak Peacock did pay the NFL one hundred and ten million dollars to air the one game. Say what Peacock did. It was Roger Goodell who claims he loves the fans and takes care of fans in their business. You know what, Roger, It's all about
money. It's all about pleasing the owners that you serve them. That's what's all about. And honestly, if you're really and truly were a fan guy, you know you wouldn't even have these games at night. You put them on Saturday night to get the most eyeballs you can because Saturday night in Kansas City where it's minus twelve degrees. I'm not sitting in my rear end out there. I'm not doing it. Will nobody ask you to. Nobody's going to force you to or pull a gun by your hand. And I'll go
one step further. What'step for this Peacock streaming that that happened this past week in between Kansas City and Miami. If you found out that people in Miami and Fort Lauderdale and Kansas City were able to watch these games basically free in their home market, they didn't have to pay for the people. Sure, that's the way. Will we know? If I'm a marketer for Peacock, I'm talking those people because they had to be the first ones online to pay
for it. If they didn't want to go to the game, was sitting the cold, but didn't that tickets. That's how stupid they are. The NFL has established the rules and if it's not on regular broadcast TV or one of the accepted methods, even ESPN, if it's not on one of those, with the Amazon Prime games, with the Peacock game, any game that's not on regular TV, the local team. This is part of the deal with the NFL about the streaming with the streaming service. Yeah, it's part
of the deal. But if you're a marketer for Peacock and you want to get as much money as you can, obviously you want to charge the markets that are involved in the game. Those are the people that are Rabbit fans that want to watch the game. I thought it was stupid. Everybody. Everybody wants to watch Kansas City play, at least I do because I'm a fan. But anyway, I want to go back to you talking about on media row at the Super Bowl? Can you can you again give me was
it the two Bengals Super Bowls that you went to? No, No, I went. I went to the one in New Orleans, when I forgot when both the Wall Ravens were playing New Orleans and Indianapolis. Those are both those times, and our show was six to nine Eastern time, but in New Orleans it was five to eight. So we got there like four four thirty in the morning, and they got a line of guests and there weren't that many people there at five o'clock in the morning to get on there.
However, if the morning rolls on, poor people come in and everybody's trying to pitch something. I remember Archie Manning was there pitching one he's selling. It's basically, uh, you know, a schmorgan sport of people wanting to sell their gear and what they're doing. You know. The one guy, I think it was a for my NFL coach had a vineyard. He was selling wine. I think it was did for a meal as a matter of fact. I think did for a meal as a matter of fact, I
do. I'm familiar with that. I've actually had some of Dick for Meal's wine. Yeah, so, well, good for you. I mean, I know he gave us some samples, but so we had Rabilan we talked at football. But he's also there to sell what he's selling his wine, you know. So it's interesting. You get guys, you get former athletes, and everybody's involved over there. But you know, it's hectic. It really is hectic. With his grab. They go from one stand to another.
There's people set up from radio stations all over the country and they're going from one table to another, just you know, back and forth. Your next come on in. Just move them in, move them in. And it was crazy. Do you have the ability to talk to active players too. I mean not just no, no, no, former coaches, basically former players. That was it. The executives and writers, you know,
national writers would show up there. You get some of those guys, but other than that, right, so, but but no coming, No, you didn't. You didn't get to interview like Terry Bradshaw or anybody like that. Andy. You know what, I don't remember. I think we may have. You know, it's been a while, to be honest with you. If you see today with data is I don't even know. So it was a while, I would think. Because I was associated with Fox and I still am, I probably think that we did have Terry, although I
don't think. I don't think Terry got up that early. That was a problem. I don't remember seeing those guys because I remember we did our show on the Fox stage, which they did their TV show on and there otherly going there, so we did a show on that stage, which is a beautiful stage. I remember, both in Indianapolis and in New Orleans. But you know, I don't think they were there. They probably don't come to
late in the afternoon because remember we were there. We were at five am Eastern time, five am Central time start six am Eastern time start, and that thing rolled probably to past midnight because they are radio stations that broadcast all day long, all night long. I don't think it was twenty four hours, but I think at least to one two am they were there. Well, people have had twenty four hours to break down all the Super wild Card
playoff games, and I know we don't usually focus on that. You don't want to talk about, don't want to do that, but I don't want to do it. I want to ask you about some of the games because I was stunned shocked that the Houston Texans did what they did, and I was I was equally shocked that Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers did what
they did to Dallas in Dallas. You know, Dallas doesn't know. I mean, let's go back to the Texas, because you know why, to be the team that has the best defense in the National Football League is a tremendous coup. It really was, and I was shocked. I thought Cleveland had a shot of a puncher's chance to win that game. But after all a said and done, you know what they did this year with five quarterbacks, and I'm not so certain they would have done any better if their starting
quarterback was healthy throughout the entire season. I really mean that. I don't think this. So basically, the clock struck midnight for Joe Flacco, and we saw that Joe Flacco is one of those guys subject to various turnovers throwing interceptions. But when you throw back to interceptions within a two minute span, that was the death Noel. That was killer right there. But you know what, here's a guy that was on his couch's thirty nine years old right
now and never thought he's gonna be playing again. The fact that he came back and played, I'll tell you what. You know who's scratching the head right now? That are New York Jets. Why don't the Jets pick him up after Aaron Rodgers got hurt? That's the question of the day. The Jets that have picked him up, they could have done a little bit better. I think with Joe Flacco played. Yeah, well there you go. A vote for Flacco? Uh is a vote? You weren't happy with his
performance? I was. I was shot him off your couch and what he did flacko'sacho on his back. Oh we saw it again. We saw it when he played the first time. You know, I he won a super Bowl? What a talk about won a super Bowl. There have been lots of players who won a super Bowl and you never heard from him again, like Doug Williams. But anyway, okay, but he won a super Bowl. But he won one, Okay, and that's that's huge right this morning,
Dan Marino has ever done. And I think Dan Marino is a tremendous quarterback. I consider Damien of the godfather of the forward pass. I have that, I really do. I have this argument with people all the time who do tell me that Marino's great and blah blah blah blah blay, he was. You gotta win, you gotta win. Andy, Finally, you know what, And he's falling into the truth. If you falling into that stupid trump which really ticks me off, that if you don't win, you're
not a Hall of Famer. And that's not true. And if that was the case years ago, guys like Ernie Banks and baseball never would have gotten to the Hall of Fame. You look at what the guy's done, you look at his track record, you look at his stats, how valuable he is, what kind of a player he is? Yeah, if you win, it's great. That's I think on the case, I'd like Eli Manning.
Eli Manning has won one more super Bowl than his brother Peyton. He's won too, Eli Manning, because if you're lodging, and you're probably right, Eli Manning will probably be in the Hall of Fame because he won two Super Bowls And that's that's the barometer right now. And I don't think entirely it should be. Yeah, And I don't know that that makes him better than his brother Peyton either. I always called Eli the dumb brother. But anyway, all you got to do is listen to one interview. Anyway I
was, I was what I what I was noticing? Is it just new You talked about Dan Marino being the godfather of the forward pass, and I think that has some that is some validity Andy, But what I've noticed, and it started kind of started with Holmes and then you saw a little bit from Joe Burrow, and you saw it from these other young quarterbacks. All
the different arm angles that they use, and it's amazing. It is really revolutionary, revolutionized the NFL game with the different Lamar Jackson, Yeah, of Lamar Jackson as well. I mean, you know, It's funny how you see a guy develop and adapt. And I remember watching Lamar Jackson when he played at the University of Louisville. A good player, an excellent player, right, iisman trothy, whatever it may be. I never, ever, in my wildest team expected him to do what he has done in National Football
League, you know. And I think that to some extent, guys that make draft picks, the personnel people and general managers, I think they feel the same way. They never would admit it, but it's somewhat of a crap shoot thought you agree, really, I mean, you say, the guy you know, and you know, you see, you see his raw talent, but you don't always got to react, especially a kid maybe coming out of a smaller school who is going on a large stage. I can't
handle the large stage pressure. Well yeah, c J. Stroud is one of the first Ohio State quarterbacks that was came prepared to play in the NFL. Obviously it was the rookie season, right, So I mean, I look, people get labels. I mean, for years, Penn State has been labeled linebacker you and for years people always say stay away from Ohio State. You can't have the quarterback from there because they won't play. So you have two strikes against you if you play that position at Ohio State. That's
the problem right there. But he's come around. He's proved everybody wrong. You've proved the skeptics wrong, and maybe he's turned the right system. That's the key to You got to be in the right system with the right parsonnel. And lucky for him, he's in the right system. My dad perfectly. My dad's alma mater Iowa is known as tight end. You. I mean, they can't score any points, but they produce great tight ends. And you got Sam Laporta once again, continuing to the next ground. I
tell you what. Let's well, I should I should have went discuss I should have went to schoolcause you know why I got a tight end right now I'm talking to you. Well, we're going to turn you into a wide receiver. Next half hour, Andy, Thank you very much. Thank you. More with Andy Furman as we continue in this hour long conversation or whatever the hell this is on the nut one seven hundred w Now, no, you sound like you sound like Scott Sloan doing an impression of you. Now,
it's unbelievable. Seven hundred w l W do you know how much one thousand dollars in coins way? It is part two of our discussion with Andy Fourman on the Nightcap on this Tuesday in January seventeen, twenty twenty four. And I don't know if I wished you happy New Year, probably three or fourteen last week. Okay, bye. By the way, you guys do me a favorite. You know, I love being on your show, and I certainly appreciate the time, though doubt about that. And you're a good
friend, so we have a good rapport, I believe. But we introduced me. Please don't tell everybody's going to be on for an hour, because I'm hearing in my mind clicks. People turn the radio off, really, so don't do that. They just say, here's the guest candy. People that just don't like me. You know what I mean? Andy, in the world of social media, and we live in that world whether we want to or not. That's what she want, is clicks? Right? Or
are you talking about something. I don't mean those kinds of clicks. I mean the click when they turned the radio off. That's the click I'm talking about. I wanted to tell you, I want to tell you about what my wife has predicted and how she did in picking games, the Super wild Card Weekend games. Some of them stunned me when she made these picks, and it came to fruition. She was five and one picking these games. And there were some outcomes that I did not foresee, Like, for example,
I did not foresee Green Bay destroying the Dallas Cowboys. But she picked it. She used her magic even then. Mike McCarthy or Jerry Jones, no, I know, God, the look on Jerry Jones' face in the box and then after the game, I mean, you know, he's just ready to you know, like he's ready to kill Mike McCarthy, bring him back to life and kill him again. It was just insane. What green Bay. You know, here's the thing with Dallas. I mean, they
were they were so dominant at home. They were eight o this year. They were running a sixteen and oh streak at home, averaging over thirty two points a game at home this year. Had to have Green Bay walk in there and just destroy them and away in a way, I'm happy, I say, why, I'm not a big Aaron Rodgers fan. Now all of a sudden, Aaron Rodgers took all the fans in Green Bay is out the wind, flush it down the toilets. To me, is an egotistical schmuck.
That's what he is. He really is. And he found some clown in Indianapolis to take him on his TV show who he pays to be on there. He's the guy's talking about anti vaccine talking to me, Kimmel's a pedophile? What are you doing? I mean? And I'm not saying that it's not right for an athlete to talk with other things in sports. Sure they can, Lebron James, God bless you talk about anything you want. Athletes have done that for years. But be sensible, have your facts together,
don't be a schmuff. And Aaron Aaron Rodgers was only anti vax as in the COVID vaccine and I'm anti vaxxine. Are you calling me a schmuck too? No? No, because you don't have the stage like Aaron Rodgers. That's the No. One knew that I'm taking about it. Big is my restroom over for ever. But Aaron Rodgers has said it. He said it in the USA today, he said it on National TV. He said
it all over the place. Because you don't because you don't to describe or just go along with the approved narrative doesn't make you a schmuck Andy, no matter what kind of stage you have, because whose opinion you're gonna take, Aaron Rodgers or the medics of this world and the scientist. I'm not taking big Farmer's word. I'm not taking Anthony Fauci's word. The guy has proved
scientific. Anthony Fauci did not make the vaccination. No, but but he pushed it and he approved it, and he said good and certainly you have the rights. He is responsible for killing more people than COVID nineteen did anti He may very well be. He may very well be, but it wasn't because of the vaccine. So people Aaron Rodgers speaking up does not mean that they are schmucks Andy. They have the information they have and you have different
information. That's the point. He didn't have the information. He just went ahead. He still you're not happy. If you're not happy with Aaron Rodgers going public of what he did, then probably you're not happy with Travis Kelcey going public saying you should be vaccinated? Did you play? You're not happy with both. You can't have it both ways. No, they paid Travis Kelsey to turn his back, he wouldn't have done nobody. That is such bull That is such bullcocky, Andy, how do you know Travis Kelsey?
In other words, you'll do you'll do commercials on seven hundred WLW if they pay you, even if you don't believe it. Let me tell you something. No, I would never do it. I would never do that, And that's why I'm better than Travis kelcey. He did that for the Padre. If I worked there today and they asked me to do those bet Usa or whatever it might be, all these gambling sites, I wouldn't do it. Why I'm not a gambler. I worked in the race tracks, in
Greyhound tracks most of my life arness racing. I never gambled. I promoted the places, but I never gambled. So you're gonna come to me and sayd offer me big time money, Say go on the radio and read a commercial script for me. I ain't doing it because I don't believe in it. It's not in my heart. Andy, you have scruples. I'm saying that I don't believe Travis Kelsey does. Yeah, but you don't know that you don't know if he got paid or not. You don't know paid him
handsomely? You know what? Hold on you? Let me let me see if I can see if I can find out if there's anything on the Google. Uh Travis Kelsey paid? Uh? Pfizer, Pfizer? Was he paid? Was he we would Was he a paid indoors? Maybe if you're a paid endorser and it's a matter of public record, Andy, and that's what happened to happen, pay wait time out. If he's a paid endorser at the end of the TV commercial, that would say Travis Kelsey has been a
paid endorser by Pfizer. I have never seen it on the TV commercial never. I never seen it. Do Let's see here, let's let's go how much? How much? Did how much did Pfeiser pay Travis Kelcey? Report reveals well, tell me chiefs tight end endorsement paycheck. Travis Kelcey makes up to five million dollars a year from him his endorsement arrangements. According to multiple reports. Widely reported connections with Taylor Swift, Kelsey has acquired even more prominence.
However, another recent highlight was his Peiser commercial right all right, all right, thirty four year old who has helped his team. But blah blah blah blah blah, urges viewers to get the new COVID nineteen vaccination in their annual flu shot. Right together, right, and and the video he can be seen and blah blah blah blah blah. They're trying to hide. This is not hiding there here it is Andy. Here's the truth. The Kansas
City tight End made approximately twenty million dollars from Pfizer for doing that. It was all about the money. It's not about something he strongly believes in. He doesn't think it will hurt him. That's why he took it. But he took the money twenty mil Andy, so would if if you get to you pack the money if you get No. He took. He was paid. They revealed what he got paid, twenty million dollars for doing the Pfizer
COVID off. He was off with the money. And honestly, you don't know if he gave it back to fire, you don't know what he'd do with the money. He's not gonna give it back to ridiculous thing. You said that point. I didn't say give it back the donat so you screw whatever may have been. But I will say you this much, you're going down the wrong street. I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about He wouldn't have done it if he didn't believe it is Oh garbage, that is
garbage. Oh really? Oh real? Okay, Fine, he's gonna tell America to take a shot, and then all of a sudden he's gonna tell his girlfriend and his wife handle a swift. He prided to the commercial. But I'm not going to take him back to he probably he probably put probably really, he probably believes like you do, that there's no harm in taking this mRNA Frankenstein monster shot, and he probably doesn't think there's anything wrong with it. I'll agree with you, but I don't believe in he he believes
in his heart of hearts. It's it's he's doing it for the public. Don't don't kid me that. But who is he doing it for? He's doing it for him. He's doing it for himself to make twenty million dollars Andy, No, not really, no, no, forget it. I can't argue with you. You're like a rock, You're like a stone. But let me run this body. When I was in elementary school a PS
one twenty eight in Brooklyn, New York. As a kid, you could not attend classes in New York City unless you've got a small pox shot measles vaccination. So I guess now, if you had a child going to elementary school, he would not permit it to get any of those shots. Right. But there's a difference, there's a andy, there is a difference. There is a difference between being anti VAXX and being anti covid vacs. I'm
anti covid vacs. And because it didn't take the time that they needed to find out if it was safe and and to fully disclose the adverse side effects that many people have suffered as a result of getting these shots in the boosters, I understand. I understand. So in other words, you have taken a smallpox shot, you've got in your polio vaccine, and you got them all and those were all those were all in trials for years before they were
approved. I understand that that had a rush. They rushed real big time for this COVID. I get it, all right, So we move on. Okayhere we're going now. So I want to talk about this. You want to talk about Pat mcafeel ers ESPN. Okay, ESPN, tell me about the ESPN. Well, let's say about the ESPN for a sec which at one point, though, I think their branding was what the place for sports? What is it sport? What was that brand? Well, well,
the ESPN stands for Entertainment and Sports Programming Network. That's what it stands, no doubt. But I think the brand was like the place for sports whatever it might be, the world worldwide leader worlds. Yes, okay, I don't think it is anymore. I'll tell you why. The National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. That's the organization that presents the Sports Emmy Awards.
They uncovered a scheme last week at the network ESPN that used this to acquire more than thirty of the Covenant statuettes for arnior talent ineligible to receive them since diet This since at least the year twenty ten, ESPN inserted fake names in any entries, then took the awards won by some of those imaginary individuals, had them re engraved, and gave them to ania personalities like let me give you the names Kirk kurb Street, Lee Corso, Chris Fowler, Desmond
Howard and Samantha Ponder, among the others, were given the ill gotten Emmys. According to a person briefed on the matter, who was granted animatomy and because of the individual was not authorized to discuss the public So why would the Emmys award things to fictitional people? They didn't check on it. None of these people work there. But they gotta vote. They got to vote on the work that this person did, and they did and they had no idea
that the guy wasn't even an employe of the company. To joke, that sounds to me like it sounds to me like the problem is not with ESPN, it's with the Emmy Awards. Stop their Please are you kidding? First of all, the National Academy of Television, Arts and Scientists, they're at fault. Do your homework and check. But the point is that ESPN to do something like this is underhanded, crooked and just under the table. It
stinks. It's wrong, and it tells me right now that anything else they may do, I got a question, because they're scruples are really and truly very unprofessional, very so they they submitted, they submitted a name as a nominee for the Emmy Awards, say say you're up for an Emmy, Gary Jeff. They would submit Gary Johnson walk or whatever, Gary Johnson, uh walkman or whatever, and they submit that to the Academy, and the Academy they said, he's an on air host, and they figured, well,
ESPN, they're nominating the guy must be pretty decent. ESPN's got good ready. They give him the winner, and he wins the deal. ESPN gets the trophy. They take it home being great. They take that name off and put your name on it, and they tell you that you want right and you go home happy and you tell everybody you want it, you want an Emmy. It's unbelievable. You know what I I don't care about awards,
and I have. Believe it or not, you'd say, oh, you don't care about awards because you never ever won any Well that's not that's not necessarily true. I have won awards, not on a major level, but I've I've wanted. I don't care about awards that the self congratulatory pat on the back that each industry gives, whether it's the Oscars, the Emmys. I don't know why we're circling this. The weagency say you don't care about well, I don't care about me. Not talk about you and me.
They're not important and important to most people. They're not important to most people who watch ESPN. They're not important to people who watch ESPN except for you. They were. It's not important to me. I don't like the whole situation. What they did is unhanded. Look, it's important enough for ESPN to change their names. That's how important it is for their executives to
make sure that they're on air talent and win them. That's why it's important, all right, And maybe it jack's up TV AD rates when they say, well, we have an Emmy award. Oh guy, I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure it does jacks up AD rates. I guess when seven hundred w l W wins the occasional Marconi Award, which this station has wound numerous times and personalities here, Mike McConnell, you know, I'm sure
it does. It adds some pravatas, there's no doubt about it. But I just don't care about it, and I don't think most people care about unless there is anybody who did any business. Look, I don't think that when you're in the business, radio, TV, or it might be local and national. You're in there to say, well, I want to work it because I want to win an award. If you have to win, so be it. But you do the best JOBY can every day. It's
kind of like a baseball player. He signed the contract, goes to play baseball. I don't think that he signs the contract says, you know what, I want to be in the Hall of Fame. I think it's the furthest thing from his mind. When he signs that first contract. He started playing hard, he started playing well. The stats after four or five sixty eight years, he starts saying, in the back of your mind, you know, maybe I got a shot, Maybe I got sure. I'm sure.
Joey Vada, when he started playing, never dreamt that his name would be echoed and talked about and bantered around as a potential Hall of Famer, and he probably is. Do you think that maybe he thought that he would have a bobblehead someday. That's even a bigger thing, really, because only everybody had bobbleheads for a while. I saw a bobblehead of seg floating around the station about a year ago. I did too. You know what,
It's funny I saw I couldn't lift it. It was that heavy. Something you don't know about me, Andy, Even though I have never been I've never been on Broadway. I was nominated for a Tony once. Well it really wasn't It really wasn't a Tony. It was a Tony's Pizza. I didn't win the pizza, but I was nominated for that. I think they're not really good. You buy you buy the frozen Tony's pizzas, and it's
because you don't have any money. They're they're just cheap and you throw them in the oven and hope, hopefully you can get something out of it. Though, now the people from Tony's Pizza are gonna assume me and it's all your fault. No, they're not. They're not a sponsor. So it's all right, and thank you and for for everyone. And I think this is important to remember when we have these conversations. Is you cannot you cannot spell Furman without f you? Is that correct? Goodbye? I'm a nice
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