The Paper Trail

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Ben Affleck is breaking his silence on his divorce from Jennifer Lowe.

God, I know you've been waiting for this.

In an interview for the April issue of GQ, Ben Affleck said there was no juicy story, rather just people trying to figure out their lives and relationships and ways that we all sort of normally do.

Really was he He was her fourth husband or fifth, I don't know.

They were engaged between two thousand and two two thousand and thirty before rekindling their relationship in twenty twenty one, marrying the following year.

She filed for divorce last August.

He said he tends to be more reserved in private than Lopez, which caused a rift. You just figured this out. You've known her for twenty you were engaged or twenty years ago. You're just now realizing that you're more reserved and that that would cause a rift.

Fourth husband.

She seems to be beautiful, and sometimes with beauty like that and success comes great high maintenance.

Is that a nice way to say that?

And Jennifer Garner was his first wife, and she seems very low maintenance. And she's got like a normal cool mom. The kids that he's got, I think are hers.

They are, So.

She's definitely the adult in the whole circle from what I've gathered.

I think in that article, he goes on to praise her for being sort of the calm person in the storm that is his life.

Yeah, so you've read that article.

You don't need to know everything about me and what I do every morning, what else is going on?

Time for what's happening? More because I want to protect Jennifer Gardee to oh, I see, I see, I see.

Won't be quite as hot today, and National Weather Service says that we're going to be a couple degrees cooler. We might still set some records up in the Antelope Valley there.

You gotta follow the old mushroom to get to the truth, don't you.

For the most part, it will be a bit cooler today.

Yesterday records were set in or tide in Woodland Hills at the Palmdale Airport and up in Passer Robles.

There is a cooling trend over the rest of this week.

We will probably see the morning clouds in the fog, and I think by Thursday and Friday are high temperatures Like here in the valley, our high temperatures will be mid sixties.

I just got an idea for a and it would be a book through the eyes of the Disneyland parking structure. Like that parking structure has seen some things, hasn't it over the years?

The new Mickey and Friends structure.

Yeah, it was not so much new anymore, is it. Well we've been around.

True thirty years.

But anyway, two juvenile suspects were taken into custody after a high speed chase ended at the Disneyland parking structure. I was also a juvenile that got rested at Disneyland and I got put in the cell. I wonder if these two got taken to the real cell at the Anaheim PD.

I'm assuming they went to the Big House.

Yeah, the chase ended at the Pixar Pals parking structure. Okay, suspect car reached speeds of one hundred miles per hour. Wow, what a mess, what a nightmare, What a worst case scenario for I mean, it's all bad when you think about a high speed chase like that, But at Disneyland.

All the kids running around, well, and they closed the parking rot so you couldn't get out.

Oh, imagine that if you've been stuck with your kids, stuck with your kids.

In places you didn't know this one came from, and then you got to sit in the car and you just blood sugar like going.

Home, Honry. I'm so tired.

I want to go back.

The kids sitting in like a hundred and eighty dollars worth of like stupid Mickey Ears. I mean, beautiful, cool, fun Mickey Ears. I feel like Disneyland's like scientology, Like I can't say anything even close to negative, because like.

Somebody, we'll take your throne, will.

Descend and just freaking take me out through the glass.

Amy King will come around, and tripping Amie King is also a risk.

Not sure how I feel about this, but there is a staff at the International Bird Rescues LA Wildlife Center has stepped in to help rescue birds and chicks from nests in a wind dimit, wind damaged eucalyptus tree.

What what's your problem with it?

Well, it's not as if a car hit them like this was nature. I mean, I think back to the good old days when there were three eglets.

So you think Jackie and the birds in their eggs would just die when a tree collapses.

Well, how do you know they're going to die? I don't know.

These people are the experts there, they work at the Wildlife Center. Clearly they know that they need to be rescued from what.

I don't know.

But you don't know. You're not an orentthologist. Did you go to Cornell last night and not trying on nature?

I wasn't going to go up and save the third eglet.

Just because you can't fight fate doesn't mean fate shouldn't be fought.

Are you batman? Where did that come from? Is that a T shirt you read somewhere.

I'm just saying, why not try to save the birds or help them adjust.

They're intervening in nature in a natural process. Again, it was wind that knocked the tree down. It wasn't a guy with.

A being lawnmower, parents, lawnmower, wildlife people like let you face.

Not that I wouldn't expect the bird group to go in there, but I feel like they might want to draw the line.

How many birds do you think you want to run into your car on the way home?

Six? Maybe seven?

This was a crazy story out of United and United Airlines. There was a flight from La to China that had to divert to San Francisco because the pilot.

Forgot his passport. Can you do that when.

You're a pilot? Yeah, because you just flash your badge through the airport. Nobody's checking your passport, right, Yeah, But do you have to get permission from the airline? You're like, I Forgooh gosh, darn it, Bob, I forgot my permission from the airport to turn around.

I don't think they do a lot of stopping in airplanes when they're well.

I mean, if he's going to be in China for a week, you're going to China. First of you need your passport. It's not a country where you can just like ah, I left it at home. You're gonna need that at all times. Probably couldn't they keep them in the airport like Tom Hanks, you keep the pilot in the airport for a week.

I don't know if it's gonna Have you ever been to an airport in China? There's nothing to do? Listen, lady, I know you know the answer to that. I don't know. I've never been to an airport to Haiti that is not China.

No, but it also has five letters. Different country is five letters.

Wi Fi.

Wi Fi can be one of the things that sets off an argument in the home, can't it.

Yeah, because you guys always blame us for bad Wi Fi. Your WiFi is down, your WiFi, so your WiFi isn't working. Its half it.

Like a couple of weeks ago, the Wi Fi was down and I picked up my phone to text my husband, Hey, just FYI, the WiFi is not working. And then I was like, no, why does he need to know that now he's not going to be home for several hours. You're just bitching at him that it's down now to just for the sake of bitching about it.

Yeah, so you can lord it over him when he gets home.

And then he walks in the door. I haven't said anything. I've been there with no Wi Fi for three four hours. No, but I just I hadn't mentioned it, but I kept thinking about telling him, but I was like, no, don't do that. And he walks in the door, probably doesn't even get two feet in the door. I was like, just so you know, like I tried to fake nonchalance, like you haven't, Like I just haven't been thinking about it four times a second.

Funny, so just you know, the WiFi is not working.

And it was as if I had sent all those text messages. It was like, okay, like he knew it's I might as well have sent those text messages because he knew intrinsically that I wanted to all me like I've been bitching all day at him about this.

They were all loaded up in that one comment made yes. Yeah.

So the takeaway the story is just be a bitch and send all those text messages you know where the router is.

In the I know in the room, but I know that you know what room it's in.

Yeah, okay, maybe you go and unplug it and plug it back in.

Like he probably did to make it work. Yeah.

Yeah, you think you think guys just fake it, they're actually doing like.

They're like electrical engineers to start over.

Yeah, and in reality, I totally knew it comes out.

And he goes just turn it off and turn it back on, just trying to dumb it down for you.

No, I really do think there's more to it than that.

Then, now that you say it like that, it sounds ridiculous.

Anyway.

Three teenage girls have been arrested because they plan to kill their mother after she turned off the Wi Fi in their home.

The girls are fort funny.

The girls are fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen. They grab kitchen knives and chase their mother. Threw the house and into the street.

What if the kids struck the mother with a brick?

A brick grandmother was knocked down to the ground trying to protect the mother.

We need more information out of the.

I need a whole I need a whole documentary about this one that is that's a lot of crazy in one house. And you got five women in one house, three generations, and.

Wow, and those are the only ones we know. There could have been other women in there too, knives and a brick. It's good WiFi. See I didn't do any of that. Yeah, that was next.

No it wasn't, because imagine you did send those text messages and he didn't respond because he thought to himself, Oh that's too bad.

But what am I gonna do? I can't do anything until I get home.

Then it would have been the whole I tried to get a hold of you and you just don't respond for three hours.

Oh my gosh, that would have been fun one too.

I'm saying a quiet prayer for him right now.

I'm not really a monster. How about we learn how to turn that thing off and back on. How about we learn to punch you in the face. How about we learn that. How about you take some agency and some ownership, some agency, relying on men all the time. I knew where that was headed as soon as she said the word agre. All right, coming up next? What are we talking about? All kinds of stuff? All kinds of stuff? Sounds great.

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President Trump reiterating his support for intelligence officials. He called Mike Waltz a very good man during an ambassador's meeting today at the White House. After that group discussion, that group text discussion via war plan about war plans, I should say, Trump said they will look into the use of that encrypted messaging app signal after the incident. He also claimed that Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic editor, has made up a lot.

Of stories in his career. Well, it's clearly not made up. Well, it doesn't change. The receipts are out right.

There are changes coming to the Mega Millions National Lottery Jackpot. It's supposed to give you bigger prizes, better odds, faster growing jackpots. The next iteration, or i should say, the final drawing of the current iteration, will be Friday, April fourth, so a little more than a week. That means the new prize structure begins on Tuesday, April eighth. If you're a Mega Millions fan, Mega Millions payouts currently one in

When they take away the golden megaballs.

The odds of hitting the Mega Millions jackpot also are better. Instead of one in three hundred and two million and change, it's about one in two hundred and ninety million and change, again because of the one less megaball. There's also just the jackpot option for three bucks. You get two plays for the jackpot, not all nine available prizes.

The option is being retired.

Also retiring is the Megaplier, a feature available in some states for an additional buck that would increase your non jack at jack out your non jackpot.

Payout jack out. Interesting.

Yeah, that's a different thing, is it? You got to wait to google it? See that on White Lotus. There's a new story of that suggests processed foods may be to blame for some of the mental health crises that we have seen recently. Now, first of all, empirically, how could it not be. The incredible amount of mental health diagnoses, crises, feelings, everything that we've seen over the course of the last thirty or forty years rises along with everything else that's wrong with our health.

Right, if you have health problems, chronic health problems, whether it's obesity or what have you, and that are caused in part by process foods. Of course, that's going to play a part in your mental health when it comes from anxiety, depression, any of those things. That's all in the megaverse. Ye, And it's not what's going into your body.

It's not that the salt does it.

It's the salt is an indicator of what kind of diet you have, and that that may be a better indicator. But this research team from then Nanjing Medical University said that excessive salt incake intake can trigger specific immune responses in the brain and that leads to behaviors that can resemble depression, among others. They've talked about this in the Journal of Immunology. Depression affects millions of people worldwide. We

Be down the street.

I remember if it was Facebook or Twitter or something like that old grocery store Carl's Market that used to be down the street from my house, four or five blocks away. And once twice, no probably four or five times a week, I would be sent to the store to get something for that night's meal.

I needed the gallon of milk, I needed to.

Get a package of hamburg or the vegetables or whatever it was. But it was fresh, so I would go down and hop on my bike and go grab it and bring it home. The way that stores used to be set up back then, this is probably early eighties, is that we would buy ingredients for the food that we were going to cook. Now, when you go into a store, so much of what is there is already made, and.

You think about that.

I mean, that is kind of the basic definition I guess you could say of what the processed food is. It's already made for you, as opposed to go into a store to buy the ingredients to make your food. And I had never thought about that before, but that would help explain why. One of the reasons why salt is used so often in processed foods is a preservative and taste enhancer and things like that.

I say it all the time, but I'll say it again and I don't remember if I read it, if I heard it, what happened.

But the tip is the healthy tip.

If you want to avoid processed foods, you don't even want to look at it, you want the temptation. Stick to the perimeter of your grocery store. The perimeter so that means like produce and there's a liquorial, meats, milk, dairy, things like that is what you're going to find. Maybe some yogurt there on the other side. Kind of a deal. But it's all going to be stuff for you make you know, in cooking on your own, you know, using real food or the food that is not made for you.

In with some sausage or what have you. But stick to that perimeter.

It's because I know for me, once I start going into the aisles, and I see all of those things that are designed. I mean, the smartest people are working to get you as addicted as possible to that stuff because that's just where all of the big tobacco and otherwise money went. And it works. I mean, I am so easily. Self awareness means nothing. Being aware that this particular item or this food, these crackers or chips or.

Whatever are bad for me. That means nothing.

If I'm in that aisle because the taste, because I'm like, I don't care, I know this is I'm still gonna get it.

I'm only gonna get one box.

But you know what I mean, Like it does works, not at all. So that's why they say to stick to the perimeter. Don't even tempt.

Yourself with that.

Up next True Crime Tuesday, we'll talk about chips.

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President Trump just held a meeting in the Oval Office. He was talking about a bunch of things, including downplaying the texting of attack plans to a group chat that included a journalist. He said it was really the only glitch in the last two months of the administration. The first two months, he told NBC News today that it

Newspapers are rare to come by these days. Prison newspapers even more rare. They're not new not in California, did you know San Quentin had a newspaper that dates back to at least nineteen forty. Well, now we have the first in house newspaper at a woman's prison in the United States. Their story is a topic for True Crime Tuesday.

The story is true, sounds true?

No, it sounds made up.

I don't know, Garry and Shannon present true.

I mean you would think that, like, a.

Prison is perfect for a gossip rag, right kind of a thing, especially a prison of women where there's plenty to talk.

About, plenty. Veryotypical of you. Yeah, you're right.

Men are just as caddy, but women are more likely to put pen to paper. But this isn't just news inside the prison, although it happens to be centered upon that. This is a newspaper out of the Central California Women's Facility in chow Chilla, which is California's largest prison. More than two thousand women are incarcerated there. Not just women,

It's online. I mean, you can get it in print. You can get it on a tablet. You can get it online if you were interested in checking it out. Cc By the way, the classified ads are awful in this thing, but CCWF papertrail dot org.

Is where you can find it. What do you mean, what are the classified outs? I don't know. If you need some pro No, there's no there's no like men seeking women in there. It's all women seeking?

Is there women seeking women? I'm sure they're probably well are you reading them right now? I stopped click?

You click? I don't have it pulled up. I'm kidding. There are no classifieds.

Oh okay, So you're just making jokes about it now? Yeah, because of it, because it's women.

So I can't answer the word.

San Quentin News dates back to at least nineteen forty was relaunched actually in two thousand.

Nate that project.

The San Quentin News has won awards, has been the subject of news coverage itself. Mule Creek State Prison your Sacramento has a newspaper, Pelican Bay has one. The paper Trail at this women's prison is the fourth and latest prison newspaper in the state. It launched, they say during a time of change for women's prisons in California. During the COVID pandemic, the number of women in California prisons fell thirty one percent. Thirty one percent of them was told, Eh,

Chowchilla is a big place. I mean, this facility is a big place. They got a girlfriend there. I don't like to brag, but which I say, beca, I did some work there. Do you want to call?

Valentina six and forty acres?

And the guards have to ride tricycles, I mean big ones, but tricycles to get around.

It's so it could be like a five K situation. LGBTQIA plus walk.

Yeah, they're not just walking down cell block six or whatever. Right.

It also began the Paper Trail did during a period of scandals at this prison. In July, a woman died there during a heat wave. In January, a former correctional officer was found guilty of sixty four counts of sexual abuse and battery against multiple incarcerated women. The editor is said in December she's interviewing people about their experiences with that guy for the paper's first story looking into the abuse.

Now, that's kind of one of the things every once in a while, I mean, looking at this online, it looks like many college newspapers setups that you've seen.

It's not incredibly in depth.

They're learning, you know, they're setting up, but it What is weird about it is some of the feature stories are super feature e like they're very not hard hitting, but that there is also the possibility of there being very, very poignant or difficult stories to write.

That seems like it's going to be hard to write.

Poignant and difficult because of lack of access. Journalists don't have access to the stories inside chow Chilla Prison. They don't have access to these women to tell the stories. That's why the major motion picture up Close and Personal with Michelle Pfeiffer and Robert Redford was so wonder because It showed how crucial it is for journalists to have access to prisons and how when there's a riot in the prison that Robert Redford will talk you through it.

But in this it will make your journalism career.

But in this and you'll go to the network after that, you don't have to get drunk like Angelina Joe Lee.

And that other movie at the bus protest was that it that was based in Seattle.

It was okay, they filmed at our station there, but this editor in chief that's going to do the story from the inside. I mean that kind of positioning of the access is kind of a strange thing. When we come back, though, I wanted to want to read to you from one of the fun er lighter articles in this In this paper, it talks about one of the things that you want when you're in prison, and it's become very trendy to have one of these things with.

Is it sex or alcohol?

Neither huh, Yeah, neither huh. Gary Channon will continue with our True Crime Tuesday.

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Can they talk about prison overcrowding six and forty acres? Well, a few years ago it was at one hundred and thirty percent of capacity. It's not now, but it was.

The paper Trail is this in house newspaper written and edited by incarcerated people. The advisor to this group of journalists there at Central California Woman's Facility is a guy named Jesse Vasquez who travels back and forth from Oakland twice a week to work with the people. He himself had spent some time behind bars. He was actually at San Quentin and worked on that newspaper there for a while.

Women's prison in Chowchilla, come.

On, one of the uh, one of the inmates that's writing for the paper trail is sounds like dirt.

Doesn't that what any think Chowchilla doesn't just sound like flat and dirt and heat.

Yeah, and that's just plenty of cows. Are there cows there? Sure? Outside? Yeah? I don't think they're inside.

The article is called the new Fendi Bags CCWF. That's California or Central California Women's Facility CCWF residents get their hands dirty for the latest it item quote. I had no idea how freaking serious it was, Like, lizards are the new Fendi bags, said Diamond Vargas, a long term resident of Charlie.

Yard, what are they doing with lizards?

I had also noticed that many people on b yard were also keepers of lizards.

Walking towards my unit.

One day, I get at double hits at a woman because I didn't recognize the logo on her T shirt.

Oh, this was like Bennett moved.

This was like when Kevin de Leone at City Hall compared a city council woman's purse to another colleague's adopted black son.

It was a small, live lizard and not a logo at.

All, So it's like trendy to have the lizards inside.

Yes, I would.

I could see that I would totally want a pet lizard if I was in prison.

People do not normally spend much time on the ground unless there's an active alarm. Suddenly seeing so many people crouch down, kneeling and digging in dirt and not so sanitary areas and did give me anothers pause. I would compare it to something going viral on social media from the way I understand it to work.

Again, she's on the inside, so we're still talking about lizards.

This is the result of having the having to have the newest latest, What did they idem?

What are they doing with the lizards?

Once I understood the entire situation, I was impressed by the commitment people had made to the well being and survival of their lizards. Most lizards had a comfortable house made for them out of everyday items found or repurposed. Picture of plastic non dairy creamer bottle look like allound to create a small pond like a.

Toilet paper roll for the little lizard to play in.

Yeah, set inside a square five quartz snapware container with soil and grass and rocks and a small branch with leaves. The top is covered with a white kitchen hairnet to allow air to circulate.

Man, lizards have made it at chow chill. That sounds like a nice life for a lizard. Get all these toys and a nice little sanitized environment there in your little plastic home.

Again, the writer of this piece lizards, Well, they need food. They need light too, don't they. What do they feeding them? Lizards? Probably bugs so you could get in the in the in the air in your it's a jail.

Thank you, Jimmy, thank you.

People want nothing to do with lizards, whether from a genuine fear or dislike of Crawley critters. Some are dog people, some are cat people. Again, this makes me think of the way some people live for Fendy while others only wear Gucci. Lizards are the new Fendi bags, at least for this season.

Debra is the person who knows labels.

I do not.

Debor Fendy versus Gucci. What's the deal?

I'd probably say Gucci over Fendy.

Is Gucci just more classic like Chanel and Fendy's kind of newer Chanelle?

Chanelle is on top, right, right, And then I would say Gucci and then and then Fendy more much about trendy. I mean I think Gucci is is more trendy. Oh okay, yeah, I don't only see a.

Whole lot of Fendy.

Versus Gucci's easier. I see a lot of Gucci because I think it's easier to counterfit.

I don't know they're all emman. I can go. You can go to certain places, and you can I don't. I've been to those places.

I went to Santi Alley and bought a knockoff purse, one of the first things I did when I moved to La Jody Becker took me.

Okay, what brands?

Chanel?

You did? I bought fake Chanelle? Do you still have it?

No?

That thing fell apart within about six months. It was it was a cool purse. I loved it. It's beautiful.

Yeah, you weren't actually supposed to use it, but it was forty dollars do you expect? But I liked it. I haven't been back since. John Cobboltchows coming up now. John knows all about designer? Does he really? You can ask him?

He buys his underwear and bulk at a store in Lake Arrowhead.

He does the hell does he know about brand?

And buy your underwear and bulk at a store in Lake Arrowhead.

You're welcome, she remembers.

It's hard to forget. Yeah, all right, John's up next. We'll see you tomorrow.

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