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Gary and Shannon are reporting the latest news from Washington, D.C. Exciting Breakthrough in PTSD Treatment! Meet a 14-year-old with the potential to become a millionaire! Imagine the dreams and possibilities that await, all thanks to their unique talents and entrepreneurial spirit...

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Speaker 1

This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2

Oh no, it did it? Really? The bird flew away? Huh So?

Speaker 3

About twenty minutes ago one of the eglets perched on a branch and took off. I think I know where Shannon is. I think she was below that tree begging that bird to fly. They haven't said which of these it was, Sonny or Gizmo. CBS News wrote What's next for the Eglitz. Gizmo and Sonny were both determined to be female. Hold on a second. Gizmo and Sonny were both determined to be female, and Sonny's sex is still unknown, but both will remain in the habitat for one to

three months after ledging. Friends of Big Bear Valleys say they will likely be in and out of the nest during this time they will take off. Since they aren't banded, we will have no way to know if they stay together or for how long.

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It's listen.

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I have been just as infatuated with these eagles as everybody else has, but these comments crack me up. It's not known if they will recognize each other, and the organization notes that there is some evidence that bald eagles can memorize, but they have not been there have not been any specific studies to verify that information.

Speaker 2

Eagles will reach maturity about five years old.

Speaker 3

That's when they get the white head and tail and bright yellow beaks and eyes. But again, the breaking developing story out of Big Bear is that one of the eagles has literally flown the nest and we'll see, will see if they ever make it back. NBA Finals begin Thursday night, Pacers against Oklahoma City Thunder. NHL Stanley Cup Finals begin on Wednesday night. That'll be the Florida Panthers against the Edmonton Oilers. The Angels lost to the Guardians

last night, four to two. They will move on to Boston tonight to take on the Red Sox. Yankees beat the Dodgers seven to three yesterday, but the Mets are in town tonight.

Speaker 2

It's time for swamp watch. I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar. And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we got the real problem is that our leaders are done.

Speaker 3

The other side never quits so what, I'm not going anywhere.

Speaker 1

So now you train the swat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by.

Speaker 2

What has been. You know, Americans have always been gone at President.

Speaker 4

They're not scrupid.

Speaker 3

A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

Speaker 2

Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch, they're all caunonnoyed.

Speaker 3

Late in the segment, we'll get you more about what's going on with the terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado against those pro Israeli hostage demonstrators that were out there trying to bring attention to the hostages that are still being held by Hamas. Because President Trump did make a comment on truth Social about that, So we'll talk about that. Because we're creating some more information, I wanted to just backtrack just a quick moment and talk about what we have seen the latest.

Speaker 2

When it comes to teriff wars.

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Wall Street has been negative, at least the DAL has been negative all morning.

Speaker 2

Right now, it's down one hundred and seventy six points.

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There is some concern that the trade tensions between the United States and China are going to ratchet up, and part of that is because of what we have seen in what is considered to be a violation of the truce. China's Ministry of Commerce said that Washington seriously undermined the

agreement reached during talks in Geneva last month. Both countries actually lowered tariffs on goods imported from each other, but again the Chinese spokesperson said that the US actions violated the consensus reached during a phone call between She Jinping and President Trump. The comments come after Trump said that China had totally violated its agreement with US. Okay, this could be potentially all worked out in a mysterious phone

call that is said to be coming soon. Still up in the air today in terms of official high level talks between China and the United States, and there are now mixed signals. Part of it is because we say they violated that the tariff agreement, they say we violated the tariff agreement. There is potentially, according to CNBC, a phone call between President Trump and President she very possible.

This would be the first call since Trump took office. Again, remember I said there was a call in January that was before he was inaugurated for the second term. So this would be the one that This would be the first phone call between the two, some of them since he became president again. Again, China is lashing out, saying that we were the ones that violated the deal. They have dimmed the prospects of an immediate leadership call is

where they say it. There has also been a crackdown on rare earth exports a couple of months ago, starting to bite for US automakers in particular, we might have to wea the United States might have to start limiting

auto production in just a matter of days. One of the issues specifically is rare earth magnets, and with China still enforcing their limits on rare earth magnet exports to the United States, this could be one very specific but very damaging part in the entire supply chain when it comes to Chinese goods that are coming into the United States and making cars and why that would be such a stumbling block. Also in all of that, the price

of steel and aluminum spike today. Shares of foreign steelmakers actually slumped after President Trump said he would double tariffs on imports of aluminum and steal up to fifty percent. Here we are in June, and this is going to be a very important month for the Senate and for

the Supreme Court when it comes to Washington, DC. So one of the things that just happened was Justice Brett Kavanaugh signaled that the Court could soon decide the constitutional constitutionality of banning AR fifteen's three justices did vote yes to take up a specific case like this, you need four actually to take up the case. Kavanaugh was not one of those yes votes, but said that he probably would be soon and that we should presumably address the

AR fifteen in the next term or two. The other things, of course, are still going on. There are more opinion cases that deal with birthright citizenship, that deal with age verification for porn sites, transition care for kids who claim to be transgender. All of that stuff is still yet

to come down for the Supreme Court this month. The Senate is back in Washington today, and one of the things that they're doing is talking about that big, beautiful bill, how they are going to try to have this balance that would appease each of the Republican factions within the House and then each of the Republican factions within the Senate. They want to have something done before a July fourth break. Mike Johnson Speaker of the House had said that he expects that timeline to be in play.

Speaker 2

We'll see how it goes.

Speaker 3

Okay, So I mentioned that President Trump did make a comment about the attack in Boulder, Colorado. We'll get into that and the latest when it comes to the court documents that are filed for the suspect in that case, who will be in court in about an hour or so.

Speaker 2

That's up next.

Speaker 1

You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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The big story now nationally has been this terrorist attack that took place in Boulder, Colorado, where about a forty five year old man attacked a group of demonstrators that were calling for the release of Israeli hostages in Gaza. Now, the President wrote today on truth Social quote, yesterday's horific attack and Bulder, Colorado will not be tolerated in the United States of America. He came in through he came

in through Biden's ridiculous open door. Sorry, he came in through Biden's ridiculous open border policy, which has hurt our country so badly.

Speaker 2

He must go out.

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Under Trump policy, acts of terrorism will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is yet another example of why we must keep our border secure and deport illegal anti American radicals from our homeland. My heart goes out to the victims of this terrible tragedy and the great people of Boulder, Colorado. The understanding is that the suspect in this case is due in court next hour.

According to documents that were just filed for the federal criminal case against him, this guy had at least fourteen unused molotov cocktails with them at the time that he was arrested, apparently in his vehicle, and if you've seen the video, he's holding a couple of them in his hands.

The video was taken after the official or I guess after the initial is the word I'm looking for, after the initial attack when he used what they said was a impromptu or a sort of a homemade flamethrower of some kind, and then these incendiary devices, these molotov cocktails. This again the documents that were filed for the criminal

court case details. Police did have some more details. Police also reported that he actually threw two molotov cocktails at people who were at the gathering that he was yelling free Palestine as he did so, causing burn injuries to eight different people. The government says, in addition to those fourteen unlit molotov cocktails, they found a backpack weed.

Speaker 2

Sprayer for some reason, and.

Speaker 3

That there I guess it had a gasoline in it. In his car, the court documents said that police found red material consistent with the rags that were hanging out of the remaining in Cyndi or device. It just looked like shop rags to me, but it may have been

something more specific than that. There was a red gas canister in the car and paperwork with the words Israel, Palestine and US aid I talked earlier about the coloradois Attorney General Phil Wiser saying that this is proof that we all have to be on high alert.

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Now. Eight against any of us must be treated against eight against all of us. That's a moral stand that's imperative for us to tape. That's what America needs to stand for in this moment. We need to make sure that we keep people safe, that we make clear there's no place for hate, and that in America people can peacefully demonstrate whatever they believe.

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Now, the FBI special Agent in charge had said that they don't believe that there were other suspects. He and the chief of the Boulder Police Department talked about it.

Speaker 5

Now the subject is in custody, but this will be a thorough, complete investigation.

Speaker 1

From everything we.

Speaker 5

Know in the witness briefings, in interviews that we've done at this point, we do not believe that there is an additional suspect at large.

Speaker 3

Okay, there are details also in this court document again the guys expected in court next hour. It says that this guy was planning this attack for a year. The group again that was protesting, that was demonstrating is probably the better word, has been a regular fixture at this plaza in Boulder, Colorado since the October seventh attacks in twenty twenty three, that on a regular basis, most weekly, basically weather permitting that they're out there all the time.

But according to the court documents, the suspect was waiting until after his daughter graduated, and that this guy arrived at the scene of the crime just before one o'clock Bolder time and waited for the group there. After his arrest, the suspect told law enforcement that Zionists were his target and that he would conduct the attack again.

Speaker 2

So the suspect.

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According to couple of different reports, the White House has backed this up. Department of Homeland Security has as well. He was trying to get a guess asylum way back in two thousand and five or six, and he was denied at the time. He came in on a travel visa that expired. The administration at the time a couple of years ago, in twenty twenty three, gave him a work visa, but that the work visa expired in March of this year, so he was existing in the country illegally.

Speaker 2

So up next there.

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Last week we talked about PTSD treatments and using psychedelics and the potential for microdosing of psychedelics to help in that case, specifically veterans get through PTSD. There's another PTSD therapy they're saying that seems too good to be true, but apparently has been working. It's called RTM. I'll explain what that is and why it has been working in some cases when we come back.

Speaker 1

You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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Last week, we talked about the potential use of hallucinogens and psycho therapeutic drug in order to treat people's post traumatic stress disorder. And it's a particularly meaningful story because of the number of suicides of American veterans every day. I think the number is twenty two each day, and that that specific population veterans are so much more at risk for suicide than any other portion of the population.

Jeff Turner is a guy who served in Iraq, and in April of two thousand and four, his mess hall and some areas around his base were hit with mortars, and the mess hall was what got hit first. The second bomb hit in a sand nearby, and he was covered in smoke. He dove between a couple of park mail vans and he began to register the screams from the mess hall, and a soldier who had been chasing him down found him soaked in blood and said, you

got a problem, sir. The mortar had ripped through the canvas or roof killed several of his fellow service members, shrapnel in every direction. He was able to walk away from the attack. He did still have some wounds deep into his leg and on his arms, but the next day he was back at work and he said he found immediately things were not right. His heart was pounding,

even though he was doing relatively mundane tasks. Loud noises would freak him out and he would jump into bunkers, and the little sleep that he did get was plagued with nightmares. I mean, these are all very, very common when it comes to post traumatic stress disorder, because your body is reliving or trying to process whatever you went through in the first place, there's a Without treatment, PTSD sufferers will notice the distortions in.

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Their behavior, in their mood.

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They will constant feel like they're in danger, and that makes them avoidant, that makes them draw into isolation, and then you've got shame and guilt and anger and it all festers and it causes depression and like I said, that dramatically high risk of suicide that comes along with it. So treating it, Treating PTSD revolves around the question of how do you get a person to leave the past in the past. And yes, there are different therapeutic avenues

for that. In the case that we were talking about last week, there are medical avenues for that that they have been working on. The problem with prolonged exposure, though, is that it can be hard to get through and if you want to hit this thing head on. You just want to sit on a therapist couch and talk about over and over and over and over again the most traumatic moments of your life that can be painful. There is a new unconventional route called reconsolidation of traumatic

memories reconsolidation of traumatic memories RTM. There is a belief that, or a theory is a better word, that treating PTSD could be painless. Right, you wouldn't have to go through and relive those moments in the same way. When it came to Jeff Turner and him doing this reconsolidation of traumatic memories, he said it was wildly successful, to the point where he couldn't believe that it was working. His words, it seemed too good to be true.

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So what our TM.

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Does is it uses movies as a metaphor to replay something in your memory. It's big, long, eighty nine step protocol and it starts with very simple baby steps. Not to infec analyze this thing, but just to make it easy. You imagine yourself seated in a movie theater that you associate with happy memories, think about your favorite movie. You then smell the popcorn, you feel the seats. You can smell the stickiness, smell the stickiness, you can smell the

floors whatever, I don't know. And then you Begum the projectionist, and you hit play and think of your event in black and white, and you watch yourself seated watching the screen. So you're not watching the movie yourself. You're watching yourself watch the movie. And again, some of this is therapeutic mumbo jumbo, but if you are willing to put yourself through the exercise, Jeff Turner and other people who have done this reconsolidation of traumatic memories say it absolutely works.

If you ever pull yourself out of it, your body shifts, your voice changes, your teeth clench, something like that. The therapist will bring you back. Hey, calm down, we're going to start over. We're going to get through this. You're going to watch yourself watch the movie. And then once you are able to do that for about sixty seconds, you change the perspective in some way. You change the camera angle, maybe you move the screen back twenty feet.

One of the suggestions is you replace the characters in this movie with stick figures to kind of depersonalize it until you can repeatedly watch it from start to start to end without reacting to it. The point of this reconsolidation of traumatic memories is to see that thing over and over and over again, tweaking it a little bit more each time, so that it gets farther and farther away from the actual event, that when it goes back into your.

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Memory, it's different. It's not the same thing.

Speaker 3

And if you can constantly watch the clip without reacting, that's when the second phase of that reconsolidation of traumatic memories begins. You can, in vivid color and detail, now walk up to the movie screen and step inside the final frame of the film and the whole thing they tell you to rewind it and go back. It's a weird, fascinating and hopefully successful approach to PTSD that hadn't been

worked before. Now others who know about this kind of therapy have said, well, there's not a lot of medical psychological evidence to show that it works on a large scale, but if it works for a handful of people, I mean, for the same reason that we would say that you would want tests done on psychotherapeutic drugs. You want to be able to help as many people as you can, not everybody's going to be helped in the same way.

So maybe this is one of those paths that you can take, specifically for Jeff Turner and for other people who have suffered PTSD whether they're veterans or in other forms of life that they need some help to get through. So I thought that was pretty interesting, coming back youth sports to the tune of millions of dollars. Could a fourteen year old be a millionaire because of name, image, and likeness. We'll tell you, but the story about Caden Coleman.

Speaker 1

You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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Gary, Jeff Fromer right here, what you're describing with the PTSD treatment is something in lock worse we call a cognitive interview technique. We use it extensively with sexual assault victims or people who have experienced a very violent or traumatic event. It works great. I actually teach this th about the state an instructor with behavioral analysis training incorporated, and I'm glad to see that this technique is being

used to other places to help other people. Thanks for this highlighting this topic.

Speaker 2

Thanks yeah, no, thanks great insight from you. Again.

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We were talking about reconsolidation of traumatic memories a new well, maybe not necessarily that new, but being used in some new arenas. Britney Coleman has a little boy named Caden Coleman. And by little I mean he's fourteen. He's not little physically, he's five eight, one hundred and sixty five pounds, but I mean little boy mentally, smart kid, honor student. He maintains a three point five grade point average at his school,

his junior high school in the DC area. Next year he's going to be going on to Damatha Catholic High School. He is going on an academic scholarship, but Damatha Catholic High School happens to be a national powerhouse in football. When Caden was just ten years old, youth football coaches started pressing envelopes with thousands of dollars into Mom's hands. They wanted Caden to play for their club teams in Maryland or New Jersey or elsewhere on the Atlantic seaboard.

Speaker 2

She always refused.

Speaker 3

Mom, the smart one, always said no because she didn't want to tarnish her son. Now that kid has become one of the best eighth grade football players in the country. Which is weird that we have a scale by which to measure eighth grade football players, but he's one of the best, and mom says that by the end of his freshman year that starts in September, by the end of his freshman year, she wants to have him at about a million dollars. I uh okay, we talked a

little bit about this. You know, young, the youngest of young athletes being invited into this world of name, image and likeness deal. There's a kid in Los Angeles nine years old who got signed to one of these deals. There are at least forty one states and DC that have policies through their athletic associations that do allow NIL agreements for high school students, and many of those also allow deals for students in middle school.

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Rebok Gatorade leaf trading cards.

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They've offered lucrative deals to a handful of high school football and basketball stars. Local companies think real estate companies, clothing, restaurants, etc. And it can be everything from hey, the star wide receiver on the South Fresno High school football team gets free pizza every weekend or something like that, which without these name, image and likeness deals would have been illegal. Now he can do that. It can go from that

to seven figures from some of these major brands. So Britney Coleman again, Caden's mom is trying to steer in this new world and make sure that her son doesn't get taken advantage of. So she actually finds an ally in Mike Shariff, who is the coach at the middle school that this kid goes to. And he knew that this whole name, image and likeness gold rush was coming and he was ready for it.

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He doesn't like it.

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He's not a fan of the system because he thinks to himself rightfully, so how healthy is it for you to pay a ten year old to play a game? And how damage is damaging would it be to the rest of the team if one of the kids on your forty man roster is getting paid while the others aren't. But he does know you can't ignore the marketplace. So what he has done he has taught each one of

the players how to open a savings account. He brought in a bank representative to talk parent, to talk to the parents, I should say, he makes sure that the kids pass of financial competency tests, that they take lessons in handling social media, in how to handle an interview with the news media, and if you get one of those nil deals on his team, you also have to

have a higher grade point average. If you are to get a name, image and likeness a deal on his team, you have to have a three point five grade point average. Caden Coleman has been famous in football circle since he was nine. He's been on club teams the whole time. Fast, strong running back that completely breaks records left and right

for eighth graders, I suppose. But again, coach Sharif coach Mike has helped Caden's mom vet these would be sponsors, including a clothing brand, a local clothing brand there and just outside of Baltimore, second and six. They've had deals with high school players before, but Cayden was the first middle school player that they came to. And he's already got nine thousand, almost ten thousand Instagram followers, but his highlights reached tens of thousands across social media. And when

he's wearing the second and six athletic gear. While he's doing these videos, he gets more free clothing, he gets a commission of sales on certain items, and again they mom says she wants to be able to provide for her son a safe path into adulthood, which in this case would be paid for with a lot of money. And again, she's not entirely down with this whole thing, but knows that she has a goal for him. The goal is for him to reach a million dollars is

freshman year in high school. Maybe that's what's wrong with youth sports.

Speaker 2

We allow them that. We'll talk about youth sports.

Speaker 3

Coming up in a bit, we'll do trending stories, more on our youth sports problems. Motivational Monday coming up at twelve thirty, and then that crazy, very strange niche DJ job in mixtape Monday is coming up.

Speaker 2

You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 3

You can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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