This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Good news and bad news. Good news is Shannon didn't have to drive into work today. The bad news is she is getting the final round of root canal work done.
They call me yup mad, don't rush like they call me yum mab rush elma.
That's not nice because that's not her. That's not the way. It's not because she doesn't brush your teeth. It's just it's a different issue. But it's okay. I'll tell her that you said that she's a yukmouth, all right. So there has been a major major shift in what we are now thinking about the way to end the war between Russia and Ukraine, Russia's aggression against Ukraine, and there
is a lot that's going on in another continent. Both the Secretary of Defense Pete Hegsath the Vice President Evans they are in Europe right now and are expected to have some major discussions when it comes to the peace potential between Russia and Ukraine. Vladimir Zelenski has said that he's not going to agree to anything unless he is
involved in the discussions. We know yesterday that President Trump called Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelenski to talk with both of them about it, so that'll come up in a few minutes. We'll discuss what's going on also in the shadow of this Munich Peace Conference, the Munich discussions this meeting, there was a terrorist attack. Somebody drove a car into a group, killed about twenty eight people, So we'll talk
about that also coming up at ten thirty. It's a good day to do it because we're not worried about fires today, but the sort of aftermath of Palisades and the Eton fires. We'll talk about what's going on in terms of the testing for contaminants in the soil, but also how close things got to an absolute catach astrophe up north when that fire broke out, the Hughes fire near Castaic. We almost had to empty out a jail. That probably would not have been a very very good idea.
Also, just in from DC, some must vote the a's A fifty two, the n AS forty eight. The confirmation is confirmed.
RFK Junior will be the new head of the Department of Health and Human Services. We'll talk about that we'll talk about Mitch McConnell, by the way, the only Republican who voted against RFK Junior. This guy, barely alive, literally barely alive, is doing what he can to oppose President Trump before he leaves office. So all of that is to come up. But listen, rain is going to be the big story of the day. And I was just looking at some of the radar pictures. It's basically from
the border with Mexico to the border with Oregon. We are seeing rain and snow throughout California as a result of this storm. And here in La County, the expectation is this afternoon and evening is when it's going to get really heavy.
We'll see the brunt of the storm.
Probably National Weather Services it's between two pm and ten pm tonight, So have fun driving home today, take it easy, because of course that's when everybody's going to be freaked out. Orange County, Inland Empire probably the later portion of that window. They say probably between five pm and ten pm. If you're farther south, you know you're down in San Diego County, for example. They're talking about late into the evening and into early tomorrow morning. When you will see the brunt
of the storm. But some of the places up in central California are already absolutely getting blasted by some of the storm. We've seen four inches of rain already in a few places in San Luis Obispo County. The biggest issue right now is going to be keeping an eye on the burn scar areas. Whether it's the Palisades Fire, the Eaten fire, the Hughes fire, all of them are potential disasters waiting to happen because of the mudslide potential that's out there. So in the Palisades area, the area
is now limited to residents only until tomorrow afternoon. Contractors with passes will not be allowed to go into the Palisades area. Evacuation warnings issued for the Getty Villa area, portion of the Highlands neighborhood near the Burns, the northern section of Bien Venita Avenue, a northern section of Temis called Canyon Road, northern edge of Marinette Road and Oracle Place, and the area right around Will Rogers State Park Road, all of them as of right now under evacuation warnings
because of the potential for things to get worse. Malibu Brentwood, Sunset Mesa, some of the places in Hollywood and Hollywood Hills West, all of them in Silmar. Also the evacuation warnings in effect for a few homes on the western edge of the Oak Ridge Mobile Home Park. I mean, this is just we're going to be basically hanging on by our fingernails over the course of the next few hours, trying to see if this thing is going to dump
as much rain as is expected. Orange County along the canyons, all of them Tribuco Hot Springs, Bell Long Majesca areas of risk because of the debrif Row flow because of the airport fire, and the evacuation warning is in effect and has been so for about an hour and then out. In San Bernardino County, evacuation warning is issued for the unincorporated communities the Mount Baldy Village, right Wood, some of the northern and eastern neighborhoods in the City of Highland
because of all of this. So if there are problems, if you see them, you can always leave us a message on the talkback feature on the iHeart app, and all you can do is hit that little button or if you have you know a little device in your home that listens to you all the time, the Google or the oh You could just say, hey, send a message to KFI and then she'll record it and send
it right to us. So now we'll get to that all right again, a major shift internationally when it comes to how we're looking at the end whatever that is of the Russian aggression in Ukraine. We'll talk about all of the moves that have been made over the course of the you say, last twenty four thirty six hours, and what it means going forward.
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I've been speaking with a former senior Ukrainian official in Ukraine who says that there's a lot of confusion. I'm concerned in Ukraine because they also feel that President Trump has already given up a number of key negotiating positions even before the negotiations have begun, saying that I've been particular that NATO membership is off the table, and they're saying, even if that was understood, it's best not to say that before you begin talks.
This on the heels of yesterday's announcement from the White House and from the Kremlin that there was a ninety minute phone conversation between President Trump and President Putin, and then Trump got on the phone with Zelensky out of Ukraine and described what was going on now. According to Zelenski, he spoke with Trump about a lasting, reliable peace. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says it is unlikely that Ukraine would join NATO. That obviously would come as a pretty disappointing
things as Patrick Reevel was describing there. Pete Hegseth is in Brussels and has been talking with military leaders from other countries as well, secretary level military officials about not just Ukraine, but all of Northern and Eastern Europe.
I had the chance to brief allies on President Trump's top priority, a diplomatic, peaceful end to this war as quickly as possible, in a manner that creates enduring and durable peace. The American Defense Department fully supports the efforts of the Trump administration, and we look to allies to support this important work with leading on Ukraine security assistance now through increased contributions and greater ownership of future security assistance to Ukraine.
And obviously he's talking specifically about NATO allies paying their fair share his term.
Trump told reporters at the White House.
In terms of, you know, giving up some of these key positions before the negotiations actually begins. Lenski doesn't want to give up pieces of land necessarily. He doesn't want to immediately take the NATO membership off the table. Trumptial reporters of the White House, it's unlikely that Ukraine would return to its pre twenty fourteen board, but said that
some of that land will come back. It sounds like that's the kind of deal that Trump wants to put in place, to give up some of the land to exchange basically exchange some of the Russian occupied territory right now, whether it's Crimea or other portions back to Ukraine, and then Ukraine would give up something like the Cursk region farther to the east in Ukraine, which has already got a bunch of Russian nationals that live there, they speak
the Russian language, etc. That's one of the reasons that Vladimir Putin went in there in the first place. But he had said, he being Trump, that this we've got to end this. It's time to stop this ridiculous war. There has been massive, totally unnecessary death and destruction, and he wrote, God bless the people of Russia and Ukraine. Now tomorrow is when the Munich Security Conference kicks off. Munich is where Jade Vance is going to be the
vice president. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is going to be there. And there was an event early this morning where where at least twenty eight people wounded after a car drove into a group of people in Munich. German newspaper reported at least two or in serious condition, a child in critical condition. Eyewitnesses said that a car ran to a woman with a child and that the mother and child were lying under the car. Munich police said
a major police operation in the area was underway. This is by the way, a few blocks away from where this Munich security conference is supposed to be taking place starting tomorrow. Munich police have arrested a guy. They described him as a twenty four year old Afghan asylum seeker. He was detained there on site. They said there is no other there is no further danger. The attack occurred
during a what they called the Verdi strike. It's called the Verdi strike because the trade union, the Verity Trade Union, is part of an ongoing wage dispute, and eyewitnesses said that they saw two men involved in the attack and also heard some shots being fired before the driver of the car was detained. But at this point they said, it is suspected that this was a terrorist attack there
again in Munich. In the background of all of that, of course, you've got the ongoing discussion about what's going to go with the Hamas releasing hostages.
On Saturday, they had said that Israel was.
Ignoring the ceasefire deals and that they were not going to release any hostages, and that brought the comment from Trump that if they don't release everybody by noon, all hell would break loose, but that he was going to leave it up to Israel to make those decisions. Douglas Murray is a correspondent for the New York Post in the Middle East, and said, Okay, so if they don't release their hostages, what is there left to bomb?
The question now with Saturday is if Iran don't if irained in proxies Hamas don't release all of the hustle, what is there to hit? And this is to me one of the great questions. I've been in Gaza plenty. There's not many targets there left, and there's.
Not many places to bomb.
It's like Donald Rumpsall was in two thousand and one about Afghanistan and running out of targets. There aren't many things to hit. Everyone knows where the hostages are. The Israelis know where they are, The Americans know where they are, and they know that they are being surrounded. They are surrounders as they have been by Hamas fighters, harassed terrorists. You can't strike there, But what do you do?
What do you do? All right?
That's the story internationally. We'll keep our eyes on coming up. A court decision yesterday that was completely unexpected. There was a judge that put on hold the Trump buyout plan for federal employees so he could look at the details of it, and then yesterday said the buyouts may proceed, and they did.
We'll do a Gary and Shannon show breakdown we come back.
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Rain's going to be the big story throughout the course of the day today. Certain counties can expect the brunt of this storm at different times. Up to the north of US in Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Loos Obispo counties, the expectation is that it's going to be hitting earlier. Santlo's Obispo County is getting hit pretty hard already, but
Santa Barbara right about now through early afternoon. The expectation for La County is for a little bit later in the afternoon, but right around drive time, Right around sort of the four o'clock to nine o'clock is when the expectation when we expect it to peak. A car attack in Munich has injured at least twenty eight people, including kids, German anti terrorism officials. An asylum seeker from Afghanistan has been arrested. He drove a car through a protest that
was taking place. The Senate confirmed RFK Junior as Health and Human Services Secretary today, So he will take over a department with about a one point seven trillion dollar budget, eighty thousand employees. It regulates vaccines, It decides which prescription drugs can be sold. It provides health insurance for millions
of people, and responds to breakouts of infectious diseases. That yet another cabinet member that's been confirmed, Linda McMahon, is the latest cabinet member to go under Gopher confirmation hearings. She is the choice for Education Secretary, and she told a confirmation hearing today she is prepared to enact President Trump's education vision if confirmed. But part of that includes getting rid of the Department of Education altogether at some point.
So that is something that's going on in DC right now.
One of the other issues that has come out is a judge, as many judges have made rulings that have kind of put speed bumps in front of President Trump. There was one big speed bump that was removed yesterday. It's time for a Gary and Shannon show breakdown.
Why doesn't somebody tell me what they think is going on? Those can be hard explain this to me, Like I'm a two year old.
Okay, you need a breakdown with Gary and Shannon. That so.
President Trump put out a memo that said that federal employees could take a buyout about an eight month payout including benefits, if they were tired to day, and the deal was to try to cut the incredible amount of federal employees that exist. This wasn't asking questions about whether these employees were beneficial, whether they were good, whether they
were bad. It was just a across the board, if you want to get out, now, we'll give you eight months pay, eight months benefits, but you got to take
your keys and boom scooch. Well, there were federal unions, federal employee unions that brought a lawsuit and a district judge, Judge George O'Toole put that plan on hold because last week there was a deadline that existed, and what the judge said was, we're going to need some more time for me to look at this and to see if in fact we need if this is legal, if it
would pass legal muster. The federal judge yesterday then told the administration you can go forward with the deferred resignation offer for federal employees and when he did that, seventy five thousand federal workers accepted the package. According to a spokesperson for the Office of Personnel Management, when it happened, when the judge said, Okay, we can allow this to happen, President Trump said it ends tonight, and in fact last
night the program closed. The offer would allow these people to leave their jobs but be paid through like I said the end of September. The reason that the judge allowed this to happen was he said that the unions that filed suit were not directly impacted by the offer, which meant they had no case. They lacked standing, which is a term we've used a bunch of times. They didn't have the standing to bring the case. He had
previously issued that temporary restraining order against the program. The seventy five thousand federal employees, by the way, who took this offer of the eight months pay and benefits is about four percent of the federal employees that would have been offered this plan. Not all of them would be potentially able to take it, since the administration did exempt some positions after they sent out the offer, but the number of people in that situation would be very low.
The White House has said that the target in terms of cutting the federal workforce was somewhere between five percent and ten percent. Their plan was to get somewhere between five and ten percent. To take these these deferred resignations, the president took a step to prepare for widespread layoffs among those who remain. In fact, eligible employees initially had
until the end of last Thursday night to apply. As I mentioned, the judge, of course, had put that on hold, so the Trump administration extended the deadline to just before midnight on Monday.
After the pause.
This was a five page ruling that came out of Judge O'Toole said he was wiping away his earlier orders that extended the deadline for federal workers to accept the
administration's designated deferred resignation offer. The program was challenged I mentioned by the unions, the American Federation of Government Employees and several other unions because they argued that it was illegal, and they argued that it was going to harm them because it would divert resources to address the title wave of inquiries and counseling quests that the directive had caused. They refer to it as the Fork Directive because One of the memo lines, apparently in the email that went
out to people, was the fork in the road. The judge said the harms were not sufficient to give the unions the legal right, the standing to bring the lawsuit in the first place. So lawyers for the American Federation Governor Employees, the Big Union are figuring this out. They're talking about their next steps. They obviously could continue farther up the chain in terms of their judicial recourse in this case. The White House Press Secretary yesterday praised the
ruling by the judge. She suggested some judges hearing cases pending against the Trump administration were judicial activists. It's kind of funny how once the thing goes their way, they're not claiming that this is judicial activism, but if it goes against them, then it must be judicial activism. You can't have it both ways. But the unions have been
making a lot of emergency claims. They've been filing lawsuit after lawsuit to try to stop DOGE, this Department of Government efficiency Elon Musk's group, because of privacy issues, because of employment law issues, and other issues. And the judge noted in his ruling that the court there in DC the District Court has already held that unions cannot go straight to federal district court on a lot of matters
under the Federal Labor Relations Authority. So they're going to have to find the other lane, basically legal lane, to challenge all of this. Now, speaking of Doze, President Trump is expected to hold a news conference. It's supposed to be at the top of the hour. We know that he is hosting Indian Prime Minister Modi at the White House later today, much later.
In the afternoon.
The expectation, though, is that Trump is going to speak at about ten o'clock today our time about some of the more specific things that Elon Musk and this Department of Government Efficiency have uncovered.
They have been wrong in the past.
In fact, Elon Musk, in that news conference with his kid in the Oval office, has said they're gonna get things wrong, but that they will do everything to fix those wrong things as quickly as possible. So when that happens, we'll be listening to listening in on some of it. We haven't talked much about the Idaho murders in a while. This is Brian Koberger, the suspect in the quadruple murder of those college students over at the University of Idaho. There is a new piece of DNA evidence that his
attorneys say exonerates him. Maybe we'll explain what this new DNA evidence is we come back.
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Another seismic hotspot getting attention from scientists is signed that a volcano may be ready to erupt. Mount Spur, about seventy five miles west of Anchorage, Alaska, has seen what they referred to as volcanic unrest for the last ten months, and they've seen an increasing number of earthquakes in the last couple of years. The Alaska Volcano Observatory says that that volcanic unrest suggests that an eruption is possible.
Obviously, rain is going to be a big deal through the day today.
There are a bunch of evacuation warnings, most of them issued for the recent burn areas, so if you're in those areas, just pay attention. They expect the hardest rain in La County to be coming in sometime they say, between say four o'clock and nine o'clock this evening, So that's when we're going to be keeping our eyes on most of the potential for mudslides. A Moss says it's going to release the next group of three Israeli hostages
as planned. That would pave the way toward resolving a pretty big dispute over the ceasefire and the Gaza strip. Hamas had originally said they were going to delay the next release of Israeli hostages because they accused Israel of not meeting its obligations to allow intents and shelters, among some other alleged violations of the truce. Israel said it will go right back to fighting Hamas if those hostages
are not freed as scheduled. We've talked many times about the Idaho quadruple murders the University of Idaho, Madison Mogan, Kaylei gonzolvz Xanaker Noodle, and Ethan Chapin, all between twenty twenty one years old, and the heroin addict turned criminology student from Washington State who was accused of killing them, Brian Coberger.
We've talked.
Of course, one of the reasons that they specifically found him as the suspect was this drop of DNA that was discovered on a knife sheath laying adjacent to the bloodied body of one of the victims.
In this case, it was Madison Mogan.
The technicians at the FBI Crime Lab in Quantico, Virginia were able to upload this part article of DNA to a genetic database led them to a in At this point we still don't know, but a member of the Coburger family who shared their DNA information with one of those online ancestry websites, the genetic genealogy process that we've talked about many times solving a bunch of cold cases, they found somebody who matched portions of the DNA and
then recreated the family tree to point to Brian Coberger, a guy who not only lived close but has very little in way of an alibi for the night of the murders at this case. At this point, Howard Bloom, an author that we spoke to who's already written about this murder and believes that Brian Coburger is the is the person who did it. He said that that piece of DNA, the crux of this case, is smaller than
a speck of floating dust. That's how that's how tiny this little speck of DNA was on this knife sheath that they found under the body of one of the women. Now the defense is saying they have proof that it wasn't him, and their proof is two unidentified male blood samples also at that house. One was on a handrail at the house and one was on a glove outside the house, both of them recovered by investigators after the
stabbing deaths. That's not enough to say that someone else was there and did it, but it is enough for a defense attorney to throw it against the wall and see what sticks and suggest somehow that investigators in Idaho didn't do their due diligence. They never investigated to find out who those other blood samples belonged to. I mean, they're just throwing it at the wall at this point. And in fact, this week when they went before the judge,
they were shot down by the judge pretty hard. The attorney said that detectives had misled the magistrate in the case with their probable cause affidavit by leaving out the
details about the other blood that was found. So the judge is trying to drill down in the connection between the suspect and the DNA that was found under Maddie's body, And the judge says, how does that, even if they tell us, how, even if it's disclosed, preclude of finding a probable cause When there's a DNA match between the DNA on the sheath on that knife sheath and Brian Coberger,
isn't that probable cause? Every day and twice on Sunday that again, this is the judge talking to the defense attorneys. What does a knife sheath at a scene mean? Said the defense attorney. That's going to be the ultimate question. Well, when four people are stabbed to death, the knife sheath usually means that was the sheath that held the murder weapon.
And the judge said as much.
The judge said, if you're killed by a knife, it probably means a lot. Probable cause is not a proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard. It's a probable cause to think that this person might have done it. And the judge went on to say, I'm not sure how that direct DNA connection to a sheath found on or near one of the victims doesn't close the book on anything on probable cause. After that, I mentioned Howard Bloom, the guy wrote the book. We talked to him on this show.
He's now worried that this guy might get off, that the guy might walk. He said, over two and a half years, he spent weeks in that town where the students were killed. He's talked to all the law enforcement, all the witnesses, everybody around, and he says, I am absolutely convinced that Coburger is guilty of the murders. But his opinion, I mean, but his opinion doesn't mean very much because it's the judge and the jury that get
to decide this. And he said, several stunning courtroom revelations have left me thinking about the previously unthinkable that this guy might walk, And it could be because of simple things like weird random blood samples that existed on a handrail and on a glove outside the house. That might be what gets him to walk off of this crime. Up next, President Trump is expected old a news conference
from the White House. When he starts, we'll get into that, but we're going to be talking a little bit about what Elon Musk has said about the deletion of entire federal agencies. Oh and this limestone, mind where we keep files. It's not fake, it's a real thing, and it's literally out of the fifties.
That's all coming up.
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