This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. She's got the key to the office, so that makes her qualify. I don't know, I don't know. The director of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, said that she's what, I'm the best person to lead the Secret Service. She says she's the best person to lead the Secret Service. Okay, well, I mean insert you had one job memes here well. As Kimberly Cheatle is being
questioned on Capitol Hill today, there's a lot going on. More and more people now coming out, politicians coming out to endorse Kamala Harris at the top of the Democratic ticket. Nancy Pelosi was the latest to do so earlier today, and then a lot of questions will surround who is Kamala Harris going to
choose as a vice presidential running mate going forward. Joining us talk more about this is Julia Manchester from the Hill wrote an article today helped out with an article about what we can look for potentially when it comes to vice presidential picks. Julia, thanks for taking time for us today. Hey, thanks for having me So where do we even begin with this? I mean, I've seen lists that are four names long. I've seen lists that are ten names
long. Where what is the realistic number for a short list when we have such a truncated plan for the Democratic Party. Yeah, you know, to be honest, we don't know exactly how many people are being considered right now, considering Vice President Harris is still very quickly consolidating all of her support among
Democrats. You know, it seems that most of the conversation in Washington and among Democrats is centering around a number of Democratic governors from swing states or red leaning states, including Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro, Kentucky Governor Andy Bashier, North Carolina Governor North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper. Now a Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona has
also been floated. That would be a bit of a political risk for Democrats though, as should Mark Kelly take that post and then you know, in the case he's elected Vice president, that would leave an open setting Senate see in Arizona, which could open up Democrats to the possibility of losing that seat.
So there's a lot of political calculations to look out here for here, But it seems like for the most part, we're seeing mostly you know, white male governors or senators from swing states, So that actually raises a question. Would the what would be the primary reason you mentioned the political machinations?
If Mark Kelly gets pulled out of his Senate seat to become a vice president, would they simply do it on a political basis because they're not going to have to deal with uh rounding out the ticket to fill certain ethnic or gender roles. She's got that locked down. I mean, what would be the number one criteria. Well, I don't know if that's necessarily true, though, like I said, you know, to appeal to certain ethnic or gender
roles. There's a reason why I think white men are being considered for this role, someone like a Joshapiro or Andy Basheer or Roy Cooper or even Mark Kelly, because you have this woman of color on the ticket, and you know, there's this, I guess the strategy that Democrats are talking about of wanting to balance out that ticket, maybe have someone that's less liberal than Harris, someone that is white, someone that you know has a proven record of
quite frankly appealing to you know, working class voters. That are predominantly white in some of these key swing states. Remember the Biden and Harris campaign need to win or the Harris campaign now excuse me, needs to win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Those are the three he states that are integral to their path to victory. And we're seeing with the Trump campaign selection of jd.
Vance, they're targeting that white working class vote. So, you know, the Democratic coalition, even though with Harris they you know, are certainly targeting the black vote, which is so important to that coalition, and the you know, parts of the female vote, there are still other parts of
that coalition that are up for grabs. And I would say the white working class vote is something that Donald Trump has been able to sort of take away from Democrats in recent years, and Democrats are going to try to fight to get that back. And that's why I keep going back to Josh Shapiro. Out of the key swing state of Pennsylvania, there is a county in question
that he could really make a difference for. And the Democrats, I think their number one goal right now is to keep the House, keep control of the House. I don't think that they believe that she is going to be victorious against Donald. I mean, who knows, it's still early, but I think that they're playing for the House at this point. Yeah. No, And as we're speaking right now, House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries is speaking,
you know, on Capitol Hill, talking about Biden's record. I don't believe he has endorsed Harris yet, but yeah, that's very important right now. I mean, Republicans are for for a while, Democrats were on track to maintain the House or maintain their or you know, potentially get to get a majority in the House. Republicans on track to get a majority in the
Senate. But we see that the situation at the top of the ticket with President Biden and to an extent, with President Trump and the assassination against him, these two major political events have sort of scrambled the calculus going forward to a lot for a lot of these down valot races. Since we are in California, we have a vested interest in figuring out what Gavin Usom's going to do for the next four years. He has said he doesn't want to run
as a vice president. He's not going to challenge Kamala Harris for the top of the ticket. What kind of a role does somebody like that or a Gretchen Whitmer or somebody what role will they play in the next couple of months. So, Gretcha Whitmer has said that she will not be taking a vice presidential spot. She's staying in Michigan and she's going to be a co chair for the Harris campaign. She was a host CoA chair for the Biden campaign
as well for Gavin Newsom. I would imagine that he continues to serve as a surrogate for Vice President Harris. Now, he was one of the most effective, most really out there nationally surrogates for President Biden, so I would imagine he would continue to do that. He's waiting in the wings too. He's planning twenty twenty eight, that's for sure. It'll be interesting to see what kind of coming out party he has at the convention, you know, where they put him, what night they put him on, to see how
serious they take him for the next election cycle. Yeah, definitely, and just the heads up, I have to run in about a minute or so. But yeah, he's certainly on track for potential twenty twenty eight runs. But that's going to depend on if Harris wins this cycle. If she wins, then she goes on to run for a second term, that'll create some Michies for someone like a new sum Julia, thank you, appreciate it. Thank you. Julia Manchester there from the Hill and you can find her article
today is who could be Kamala Harris's running mate? Yeah, that's that. I didn't think about that, But we were talking earlier about how that convention in Chicago has to be a show. It has to be something as confusing and obfuscating as this process is going to be between now and then. They got to pull it together before then. Yeah, and he, I could, he could play a big role in that. All right, Gary and Channon will continue. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM
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Are you, Colonel Potter? Now? Who's that hogwash? Hogwash from mash Horse Hockey malarkey? Okay, Yeah, the big deal this morning has been that Nancy Pelosi has endorsed Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee. It was. It is significant because Nancy Pelosi is the one who is credit or blamed, I guess, depending on which way you lean. With the behind the scenes pressure for Biden to rethink his candidacy, Pelosi still runs things, and
she does it very deftly. And you knew right when she got involved. You didn't see her, you didn't hear her. But as those pieces started to fall, when you saw the people on the January sixth Congressional Committee start lining up to call for Biden to step down, that I was all the
work of her work in the phones. There were a couple three veteran Democrats still have not endorsed Kamala Harris. She did pick up Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin today, the number two Democrat in the upper Chamber, as well's House
Democratic Whip Catherine Clark Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar out of California. The two and three numbers two and three House Democrats Jared Hoffman out of California, told The Hill in a brief interview yesterday that some top Democrats could be withholding their endorsements for now to allow for some sort of process to play out that ends with Kamala Harris as the nominee, rather than having what looks like a coronation
form her right away. That almost like, oh, someone like a Barack Obama is going to keep his endorsement until he can vet her himself and then make this grand decision. He's not going to come to any other conclusion, you know that. So do you think he's going to talk about how good looking she is? Again? No? No, I don't think you can do that at this point. Okay, I think that's probably not a great ada. Remember when he said that about her. Yeah, there is obviously
on the other side. Right now, Jade Vance, a vice presidential candidate on the Republican side, is in Middletown, Ohio, his hometown and giving his first solo campaign event. And while all of the attention obviously is on Democrats and it should be for you know, twenty four hours now we've been talking about Joe Biden stepping down out of the race endorsing Kamala Harris, there is still plenty of support for Donald Trump and jd Vance. One of the
places that it's probably lining up in an unusual way. Is these tech bros, the term tech brolagarchs are lining up to court Trump and Vance has won one more link in that chain because of the time that he spent in Silicon Valley as a venture capital. Also, the tech bros, you know what they like. They like money, They like their own money, and they want to keep their hands on it. Elon Musk is probably at the top
of that hill. He has already said that he would donate a lot to the Trump campaign, though his ongoing endorsement on x is worth a bunch more than that. He had pushed back on the suggestion that he was making that he was going to do forty five million dollars a month. Remember he posted the picture with the good news and fake news. But Peter Teal, Peter TiAl was one of those guys, one of those tech brologarchs. But I guess he as a investor was or he was at the twenty sixteen convention.
Math, Yeah, twenty sixteen convention, and he was sort of the voice in the wilderness. They described that meeting. It was Peter Teal's hand that Trump picked up and stroked, which is a weird way to write it, but yes it is. But that's what he did. Jd Vance is a guy that Peter TiAl kind of molded into his own image through the investments in
his political careers. Peter till is the one who gave jd Vance a job at the VC firm Mitheral Capital, backed him to start his own venture fund, An Area Capital, and then later invested fifteen million from his in his successful run for Senate. They said that this is Vance is Peter Tel's extension in a way. Jd Vance was pulled a one to eighty went from aus shucks. The President called me, isn't this crazy? To calling for Biden to get the hell out of office? That's going to be I think one
of their big pushes actually is to yes to me. It actually muddies the water on the campaign. Let start, let's keep talking. I understand why they're doing it. Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with it, but the job should have, should be, and should remain. Tell me what you're going to do for the country. Yes, stop bashing on the other guy. Tell me what you're going to do for me. Yeah. Yeah,
you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI am six forty. Well, we were wondering about following the money, and it looks like the money has fallen in line behind Kamala Harris Future Forward, the flagship super Pack blessed by President Biden, received one hundred and fifty million in new commitments from major Democratic donors in the twenty four hours since the President said he'd stepped down. It already had one hundred and twenty two million, but now has added one
hundred and fifty million in new commitments. Oh, the pace of fundraising has blown the door. I mean, this election cycle is absolutely blown the doors
off of anything. Because there was you know, fundraisers that Democrats had in the spring that rose records amounts of money, and then president, former President Trump has fundraisers that raise records amounts of money, and then they have a debate where there's records amount of money that were raised, and then an assassination attempt for records amount of money, and then the guy fought the guy. The candidate steps out in the middle of the campaign, he's done, and
they raised records amounts of money. Steve Roberts is the ABC News political analyst and Steve Roberts hasn't slept in three weeks. He joins us now with his analysis of what we can expect as we make our way through the week. Steve, Well, Look, that money is a reflection of a basic fact. And if you want to sum it up on one more, it's relief. You know, the Democrats have been hitting their selves in the head by the hammer for three weeks, and when you stop hitting yourself in the head,
it feels really good. And that's b and that's basically what's happened today. And so the money is a symptom of that. It's not a cause of it. It's a symptom of that sense. We're back in the game. Look, Kamala Harris is everybody in California certainly knows, is not necessarily the ideal candidate. She ran for president twenty twenty, ran a disasters campaign. She never even got to the first primary. Her first years as vice
president were not particularly good. Already, she's being branded a California lefty by the Trump administration. But it's a restarts not eighty one years old. She's not doddering up the steps of Air Force one. She's not disgracing herself in a debate where she can't actually make any sense. So the Democrats are saying, we're back in the ballgame. She by definition deprives Trump of his single best argument, which was Biden's age. And now we'll see where we go
from here. But at least the Democrats feel we now have a chance, which was not true twenty four hours ago. Yeah, there appears to have been pretty strong consolidation within the party over the course of twenty four hours to get behind Kamala Harris. But what can we expect, what do we look forward to between now and the beginning of the convention August nineteenth. Well,
you're right, the party has coalest behind her for three reasons. First of all, logistically, it's much much easier to transfer the campaign in the campaign organization to her as opposed to someone else. Secondly, I just found it inconceivable from the beginning that the party would pass over a black woman. Black
women is the single most loyal Democratic voting group. They voted ninety one percent the last election for that ticket, and if you passed her over, you would cause just new fractures and new animosities that they last thing in the world they needed. And there's no obvious option. I mean, Kevin Newsom thinks he's the obvious option, but the fact is that it would be scattered if it wasn't Harris. There are half a dozen different young governors, including Newsom,
who would aspire to this, but there was no obvious option. So I'm not at all surprised to see this coming around. And I think what's going to happen is there's going to be a burst of energy. And as I say that, money is only a reflection of this, because the single biggest problem Democrats had was the intensity gap. I saw one poll where seventy one percent of Republicans were happy their nominee and only thirty three percent of Democrats.
And it's not as if Kamala Harris is going to convince a single Trump voter, a single red hatted Maga red hatted Maga loyalist to vote for her. But that's not what we're talking about. She needs to energize the base. She has to give Democrats a sense that they're back in the ball game, and particularly voters of color and particularly women who she's going to address directly
on the abortion issue. So it's really all about intensity and turnout, not about persuasion and about money, and I think the money is speaking loudly today. I'm actually shocked that the Democrats did not eat each other. They're always so good at that. I'm surprised that they kind of all fell, that they all fell in line so quickly behind Kamala Harris, and we don't have what seems to be an open convention. Well, I think that, you know, first of all, as I said, there are three very good
reasons why they fell in love, and it's self preservation. Even people who don't necessarily think she's a great candidate, she's better than what they've had. And you know, I saw one one analogy where you're about to drive over a cliff. Swerving is a good idea. You might not know where you're swerving to, but it's a good idea that's opposed to going over the cliff. And so I think people are relieved. And look, she has some assets too. She has some real drawbacks, but she has some assets,
as people in California know. You know, her history is a district attorney and an attorney general. You know, a prosecutor running against a convicted felon is not a bad lineup when you when you think about it, she's very good at pressing those those legal issues. And the other factor here is the abortion issue. It's very striking how in the Republican convention in Milwaukee the word that was never spoken, apart from Biden, was was abortion? Why?
Because Donald Trump and that whole party knows that that's their single most vulnerable issue and they want to avoid it. Kambla Harris has a voice on reproductive rights, and she can make that case much much more powerfully than Joe Biden, who as a devout Roman Catholic, was always uncomfortable with the issue. You add her gender, you add her prosecuting skills, and you had her ability
to say to women, look, this is not just about abortion. This is about a larger concept where Republicans don't respect your autonomy and independence as a woman. Abortion becomes a symbol of a larger point. And when you're running against the guy who has been convicted of rape, who has been convicted of putting hush money payments out to silence a a porn star who he had a brief fling with, this all adds up to potential. Got to just say
that word. We don't know what's going to happen, but potentially it's a powerful mixture for Democrats to do a whole lot better than they might have if Biden was still no nominee. And I listen, I know that this is being looked at as sort of a truncated campaign now, but that's there's still three months plus for this to get really ugly and messy over the next couple of in the next one. Sure, look, think about the last three
weeks. We've already had three three totally unanticipated and cataclysmic events, the debate, the assassination attempt, and Biden's withdrawal. So anybody who sits here in July, it says we now know everything we need to know. It's not paying attention. Steve Roberts, thank you so much, appreciate your time and analysis. Sure any talk, thanks Steve, ABC News political analysts there in Washington. It's a great point. I feel like I want to stop paying
attention for a little bit. I do too. Do you want to talk about baseball? I was just going to say baseball. The Olympics are coming up. Their football is around the corner. I could do football. We could talk football. I really do feel I mean, I still have some work just days away before I get to meet Jim Harbaugh. Okay, and I'm not ready for that. I think I've decided on just hello, big fan. I don't know. It just doesn't sound right, you know,
pairing it down from what it is it should be. You know. See, here's the thing with crazy people. Crazy. Yes, crazy appreciates crazy, you know, right, you hope, you hope. But if you don't know you're crazy, then you can't appreciate crazy. Oh okay. That's why I think an initial meeting is your attempt to determine is he crazy? No, I know he's crazy. Okay, Well I don't. I don't think. That's what I'm telling you. You should probably not lead with.
I don't know if you know this, but I'm trying to diagnose you're crazy right now? Yeah? No, no, no, I think just hello, How do you do? How do you do? Gary and Channer will continue in just a moment. You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM six forty. Where is Biden. He's in Wilmington, Delaware. Okay, I mean, that's what they It's it's odd we haven't heard from him. He's sick. How many times I have to tell you he's sick, he's got the vid It is odd that we did not hear from Odd
yesterday. I start to see some wheels turning in your head, and it concerns me. I am I am officially old. I have entertained so many ridiculous scenarios in the past three weeks that I have reached the old chapter of all caps writing. Bring on the World War two books, all of it? Hey, well more two books are great, exactly, but when did you start reading them a couple of years ago? Yeah. So President Biden dropped out of the race yesterday and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to become his
replacement. A lot of Democrats, very high profile Democrats, have come out and endorsed her for that position. Donations are also pouring in. The Harris campaign said to this morning that they have given sorry that everyday Americans have given forty nine point six million dollars in grassroots donations. Okay, so the flight restrictions the VIP movement, that is probably because Kamala Harris is going to Delaware today this afternoon. She'd be meeting with she will meet with members of the
Delaware delegation. She'll go to Biden's campaign headquarters in Wilmington, which will transition to hers as she begins this presidential campaign. Is she meeting with the president? I don't know. How could you go all the way there and not I know with him. It's unclear whether the President will be joining the meeting. Today is day five of his COVID isolation. He tested positive on Thursday. He's expected to address the nation later this week regarding his decision to bow
out of the presidential race, and still no date on that. No, and they don't need to. According to his doctors, they said that the symptoms cleared up very quickly. I mean once he started taking paxlovit. He may still have a rough voice from coughing a lot, but at this point you can put a camera in wherever he is and get an address out. That should not be a problem. No, but he wants to see that.
I will say this because I found this an interesting story. President Biden's younger brother or young guest brother, I should say, Frank, oh, Frank with the drinking problem. Well. Frank said he believed that Joe Biden bowed out of the race because of health concerns. He made his comments to both CBS and ABC News. Now. He said to CBS, in my humble opinion, absolutely, the president's health was part of the decision to announce
that he wouldn't run for reelection. Selfishly, I will have him back to enjoy whatever time he has left, or yeah, whatever time we have left. He told ABC News. The decision boils down to Biden's overall health and vitality, but also beating this genuine threat to our nation in the form of Donald Trump. Again, those are the words of Frank Biden. But a Biden family source, somebody else in the family poured water on Frank's claims told
CBS quote what he said is completely untrue. Frank Biden suffers from alcoholism and hasn't spoken to his brother in Reeks. That's so rough. I did not know that. First of all. I think I was today years old when I found out he had a younger brother named Frank. But I knew he had a brother named James. But there's a Frank and a James and a Joe, and every Irish family, every single family, there are a couple fires. Yesterday was a strong fire weather because the wind would pick up a
little bit. So. A pair of fast burning wildfires out in Riverside County. One of them is called the Howard Howard Dan howard En fire, which sounds like a doctor now fire, doesn't it? Yes, that's his last name. Similar to that. The howard On fire burned about five fat Meanwhile, the Eagle Fire started yesterday near Cahalko and Eagle Canyon Roads east of Corona. Cal Fire says about five hundred acres and as of right now about twenty
five percent contained. I feel like for three weeks, I look over at the clock and it's noon and I'm like, what where did that come? Where did that come from? Except yesterday when we started just before noon. Things are moving very fast in America. A lot of this, a lot of this. We'll top trending when we come back to Gary and Shannon.
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