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Veggie and Herb Gardens

Jul 28, 20242 hr 25 min
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Welcome to Katie r. H. Garden Line with Skip Ricord's.

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Start well, good morning, Good Sunday morning. Congratulations, you are awake. Your eyes are open at least one of them, I hope, maybe a cup of coffee in the hand. You're listening to garden Line. I'm your host, Skip Rictor, and we're going to spend the next four hours answering gardening questions talking about the topics you are interested in. If you'd like to give us a call seven to one three two one two five eight seven four seven to one

three two one two fifty eight seventy four. I've got a number of things I would like to talk about today. I'll start doing that. Uh. First of all, with all this rain we've had, we're seeing a number of things going on in the landscape and our gardens and whatnot. First of all, in the lawn it has just rained and rained and rained so much that the lawn grass is stayed wet. You know, I'm always telling you don't

overwater your lawn. Don't overwater your lawn. Most people water too little, too often, meaning they squirt the lawn every day with a little bit of water. It doesn't soak into the soil very well because it's not a volume, and then the next day they get squirkeed, it gets

squirted again and that builds up disease. Well, rain has done the little sporting today for these last weeks, but it really hadn't just been squirt It's been a deluge and the soil is very, very wet, and by it staying wet, we're seeing an increase in gray leaf spot on Saint Augustine, which is Saint Augustine being the primary long grass in our area. So gray leaf spot looks like if you're standing back just kind of looking at your lawn, you see leaves or grass blades that is

that are very yellow. They're all yellow, and as you get up closer and look, you see that there are spots on those leaves, fairly rounded, roundish type spots oval to a round that are black, and that is gray leaf spot. And what it does is that if you get enough spots on a leaf, it will cause the

entire leaf to die and turn yellow. We also are seeing a little bit of summer rhizoctonium, which, other than the fancy word rhizoctonia, basically it's like the disease that causes brown patch, which is now called large patch in the fall, those big round circles you're familiar with. There are several versions of that disease, strains of that fungus, and there's some that can occur in fairly warm weather.

Although we've had a nice break from the heat here, we're seeing some of that too, and it doesn't necessarily show up as circles. It could, but it just shows as kind of a melting away of the foliage of the grass plant. And so what do we do well, The best way to manage diseases is to treat before they appear, to prevent them. Once you have leaf spots, once you have rotted leaves that are shriveling up on the plant, you can spray, but all that is going

to do is prevent additional infection. So our goal would be to whenever we know we're having a lot of problems, we can do some preventative sprays. In general, I don't like to recommend preventative sprays because it just just spray, sprace bray all the time to prevent what might show up. But that's what you're seeing in your lawns. I can tell you this. If you just keep mowing and we get some sunshine and the rain stops, which apparently it is now we're going to have a nice sunny week,

then those diseases are gonna go away. Because diseases are very connected to environmental conditions, temperature and moisture being the two big ones. So my suggestion at this point would be just to hold off, and it's probably going to come right back and be fine. That's what I expect. There are some fungicides that you can use, and if you're dealing with an issue and you need a recommendation, you can give me a call. We'll talk about those.

But just to just to kind of summarize, you're probably seeing some of that you can spray to stop additional infection. I don't think we're going to get a lot of additional infection, so I myself probably would hold off being the best recommendation. All right, Well, let's see, we're gonna also talk this morning about some things that we're seeing

in the vegetable garden. I mean, I don't know how many of you vegetable garden the you know, we can grow a lot of wonderful, wonderful vegetables that are helping us to have a healthier life. That's the bottom line. Help them. First of all, getting out in the garden and growing things helps you have a healthier life. Just being in nature, having that relaxed enjoyment of seeing things grow, and just having success, which you can have. That is important.

But when you eat those fresh vegetables, then you definitely have a healthier life, and so do your kids. By the way, if you are a gunna garden, if you're thinking about gardening, if for no other reason, do it for your kids. When kids grow up growing vegetables, they're more likely to eat vegetables. And when they eat vegetables instead of a junk food that permeates our lives, they

have a much healthier life. Most of the big disease issues we deal with as human beings here in America are related to our diet in one way or another. That is a huge elephant in the room that we can fix very easily. So anyway, grow your own vegetables. They'll be fresh, they'll be what do we we used to say, fifteen hundred miles fresher. In other words, they didn't get shipped from California or Florida or wherever to here.

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And you can do that.

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There's a lot of good advice that you can get online if you go to the Aggie Horticulture website Aggie Horticulture, just search for it. There is a section when you get the front page, there's a section on vegetables, vegetable gardening, and there is a free publication on every vegetable you

might want to grow and then some. So if you decided, well, I want to grow tomatoes or I want to grow squash or whatever, you can download or just stared at it at this green or printed out or whatever you want to do a free, multi page, full color publication that will help you do that. And I would highly recommend that that's a good place to start, and it's free. Can't get any better than that. But vegetable gardening is

not difficult if you follow a few simple principles. First of all, we want to make sure and provide vegetables lots of sunlight in order for a plant to grow, it needs energy in the form of carbohydrates, and carbohydrates come from the leaves when the sun shines on them. That's the leaves of the food factory of the plant. We talk about fertilizers is plant food Well I even say that term, but technically fertilizers are not plant food.

Carbohydrates or plant food. Fertilizers provide the building blocks for the leaves to create carbohydrates. So technical point there, but I think worth noting. So whenever our vegetable gardens get good sunlight, they are going to have plants that thrive better and produce better. Within all the vegetables you'd want to grow, you can sort of divide them up into fruit, roots, and leaves. That's a general division with a few exceptions.

So anything that produces fruit that would be tomato, a squash, a pepper, an eggplant, a green bean, those are all fruits. Or anything that produces roots like a carrot, a turnip, a radish, a beet, those are all roots. A sweet potato those need the most sunlight because it takes a lot of sugars, a lot of carbohydrates to produce those fruits. If it is just a leafy grain for example, lettuce, spinach, kale, and collars. Or how about in the summertime, leafy greens

would include malabar, they would include something called molokia. Uh, there's even an edible person lane that can be a leaver. Those can grow in less sunlight because it doesn't take as much carbohydrates to produce the parts we're eating the leaves. That doesn't mean they want to be in shade. It just means that they will grow in less sunlight than the roots and fruit vegetables will. All right, we're going to take a little break after those comments. If you'd

like to give us a call. Seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Welcome guard Line. Good to have you this morning. Glad you're listening. And hey, if you've got some gardening questions you would like to talk about. Maybe you've never gardened before and you would like to get going on something. We make some suggestions for that, and just give us a call. Seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. When we went to break, I was talking about lawns. I was

talking about vegetable gards. I want to go back to the lawns. And make a couple of comments about that. Regarding our lawns in the summertime is when we have our main lawn insects that we have to deal with, and that would be things light grubs and chinch bugs, and as we get later in the summer, especially the sod webworm that tends to come and go some years almost nothing, some years really really bad infestations. You just never know what's coming. But Night of Fuss makes a

product called Bugout Max and it is a granular. You put it out on your lawn, spread it like you would your fertilizer, and then watered in and the chemical on it goes into the thatch and soil region and anything in that region it's going to kill it. And that would be like ants fire ance crawling through it would be killed. Fleas. Did you know there are fleas in your lawn if you have pets. If you have pets with fleas, as your dog goes outside, the fleas

fall off. There's they lay eggs, they hatch out into larvae that make pupa and then become adults and then hop back on the next train coming by train being your pet. And so you can control them in that stage in the lawn. That's important. Part of controlling fleas and ticks is to deal with them outside as well as dealing with them inside or on your dog. But anyway, chinchbugs, we should be seeing chinchbugs pretty soon here, especially as it gets hot and dry, which it will at some point,

and then sideweb worms too. Night fussbugot Max does all that. It takes about forty eight hours and it's pretty much done. It's work, and then it sticks around through the summer season. It doesn't just go away fast, and so that's going to cover you. One application now will cover you through the rest of the summer season. So anyway, I think that is something you might be aware of. Night Fuss products,

by the way, are widely available. We can find those things at all kinds of sources throughout the Greater Houston area. Your feed stores, your ACE hardware stores, your Southwest Fertilizer examples, those very widely available, easy, easy to find products like the bug out Max. You know, we're always rows on the lookout for what's going on in our gardens and our landscapes. I think that there's a saying that the

best fertilizer is the footprints of the gardener. Now what does that mean, Well, it basically means is for your plants to grow and be successful. When you're out there working among the plants or just walking among the plants in the garden, you notice things, you can see things to take care of and to do, and that's what that means. I would say the best pest control is

the footprints of the gardener too. If you wait until pests have hit a major outbreak and there's fifty percent of the foliage has gone on some plant that they chewed up, it's a little late to get benefits. Even if you killed all the pests at that stage, you still have a plant with half the leaves. It needs to do what it's doing. So heading out and checking things and watching things. You know, if you see an area of your lawn that's looking like it needs water,

and you water it and it doesn't respond. Back, drop down on your knees there, look among the grass blades and the that's and the runners on the ground for little black and white bugs about maybe an eighth of an inch long. That would be chinchbugs, And that would be one of the examples. They typically start at a curb a driveway, a sidewalk, some other some type of a masonry like structure that's in the full sun too. That's typically where we see the first of the chinchbugs

when we're going to have an invasion. But anyway, get out, check your plants, your lawn, make sure that you are staying on top of things so you can catch it early. When you catch a problem early, that allows you to be able to use safer products, some of the organic products, some of the super low talks products work best when pests are in a younger stage. They have more effectiveness at that stage than when let's say a stink bug, for example, is already an adult stink bug. It has

wings and it's flying all over the place. It's harder to kill those, and so the earlier you catch things, the better off you're going to be. You probably have heard me talk about a product that I really love and that is Medina's has to Grow Supergrow plus. I know that's a lot of words. Medina makes a has to grow line regular has to grow. There's has to grow for lawns, which is an excellent product for use in fertilizing your lawn. The ratio is ideal for lawn fertilization.

And then there is also has to grow super Grow Plus that's a newer one. It's a sixteen zero two and the zero's okay. Most of our lawns have all the phosphorus that they need. That's why it's always recommended. It's a very low number on the bag. But this one is a bottle. It's a quart size. You hook it to a garden hose, you spray. It takes about ten minutes to cover the four thousand square feet a bottle of supergrow Plus will cover and it will give

you a really nice quick boost. It's got a little bit of slow release in it as well, but it has things like molasses and humic acid that stimulate microbial activity. It's got a keylated form of iron which helps the yellowing areas turn green. It's got seaweed extract in it as well. It's just a good concoction to provide your lawn a boost. And so if you got a lawn that's struggling in some areas, hook up a bottle of Supergrow Plus to your garden hose and go over that

area and see the results you get. I'd say go over the whole lawn. But it's a great way to get a good quick boost to your plants. And Medina has many products in the market. Of course, supergrow Plus, I would say, their newest one, to my knowledge, is formulated to promote and to enhance the plant growth there in your lawn. Our phone number if you like to give us a call and ask a question on guard Line is seven one three two one two five eight seven four seven one three two one two fifty eight

seventy four. By the way, if you're looking for supergrow Plus, it's it's widely available and a lot of kinds of places. You're going to find it at feed stores. You're going to find it at garden centers. You're going to find it at ace hardware stores. You're going to find it at places like Southwest Fertilizer. They have it there. Of course,

they always have everything there at Southwest Fertilizer. I don't know, if you've never been in the place, you need to go just to see, because you'll go, oh, I didn't know I could get that right here. I didn't know that was even on the market. Southwest Fertilizer carries every product that you could possibly need. If you hear me. If you hear any product name come out of my mouth on garden line, it's going to be at Southwest Fertilizer.

Because that is how Bob does things. He stays on top of things and when something new comes out, he gets it. We talk pretty often actually about new products and what was working, what we're seeing on the market, and he just stays up the date on it. So and also if you need tools, eighty foot wall of tools at Southwest Fertilizer. And I always am promoting this one because I talked about a long time ago about

these folding kneeling benches and they are cool. I mean that, first of all, they'd make a great garden gift for anybody who's a gardener in your list, and especially anybody north of forty which somewhere. Do you remember the first time you woke up in the morning sore and you didn't know why? Sorry, I started to laugh. I've been there, done that. Well, when you're gardening and you go down on your knees to do something, stand up, walk across you and go down on you, up and down and

up and down. You wake up the next morning in the pre natal position, not able to get out of bed. This folding kneeling bench is nice because you unfold it, it clicks into place. You sit on it and you can do work down lower real easily. And if you need to kneel down, you just turn it upside down and the legs become handles and you go down on your knees do your work, and when you get ready to get up, you just grab those handles, those legs handles, and you stand up so easily. And I'm telling you

it will change your gardening life. I love that product, and Bob's got it there at Southwest Fertilizer, by the way. They're on the corner of the Seet and Runwick in Southwest Houston. If you want their website, it's Southwest Fertilizer dot com. They're open today. If you need to get out there and get something too, like that kneeling bench.

Check it out. That is one of the tools that one went from I almost hadn't even heard of them to definitely and the top five tools I have of all my gardening tools, that that is in the top five because it just is that important, it helps that much. All right, Well, we're hitting another heard break here for the news. I will be right back if you'd like to call in. We got an open board and you could be the first up. Seven to one three two pine two kt rh. Good Sunday morning, So glad to

have you with us here on Garden Line. We are here to answer your gardening questions, to help you, as I like to put it, have a more bountiful garden and a more beautiful landscape. That's what it's all about. You know, a lot of people garden as their number one hobby, and then there are a lot of people who dabble in gardening here and there, and then there's folks that think I can't do that. I tried to

grow a plant once and I killed it. Well, don't worry about that, because I like to say, there is no such thing as a brown thumb. There is just an uninformed thumb, and we informed thumbs here on garden Line. And as you inform a thumb, it gets greener and greener and greener. That's how it works. Because listen, it's not rocket science. It's biology. It's plant life, okay. And if you follow some simple principles Number one, preparing the soil. Number two, putting a plant where it wants to grow,

the amount of sunlight it wants to grow. In making sure that's good drainage, choosing plants that want to do well there, and then providing general care, you will find that your thumb is getting greener and greener as you go along. The reason Grandma seemed to have a green thumb is Grandma just need to do the right things. That's the bottom line. There's no magic in this. There's no magic in this. And listen, there is also no failing. Stick with me here for just a minute. You don't fail,

you give up. That is how gardening goes south. You give up. Everybody loses plants. Everybody has seasons that don't do as well as others. Everybody learns things the hard way here and there. But as you continue to learn and to grow, it just gets better. So if you tried before, try again. Give us a call anytime. We are here to help, and we absolutely I tell you this can help you have success with what you want

to grow. So a famous horticulturist once said, to be a good horticulturist, she got to kill a lot of plants. And I have remembered that through the years of the decade since I heard that, and it is so true. It is absolutely true. Don't be afraid of losing things. Landscapes and gardens are like etches sketches. Remember the etch of sketch. You had two knobs and one went up and down to draw, and the other one went left and right to draw, and inevitably your brain would not

click right and you'd do the wrong thing. And now you've messed up your drawing. What did you do? You took the etch a sketch, you held it upside down over your head, and you shook it and when you put it back down, it was a blank slate. We have things called rototillers that help us get a blank slate when we need to fix something. Seriously, though, we can always go in and redo and improve and it

just gets better, it does. It just gets better. So anyway, our phone number seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four give us a call. We're going to go to the phones now and talk to James in Spring. Welcome to guarden Line. James.

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Yes, sir, I was the leading the Jim Oak Tree from the roofline for insurance purposes. Do you have somebody that can do that.

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Absolutely Uh the Martin spoon More at Affordable Tree Service Martin, Martin, Okay, spoon More. Let me give you, let me just let me just give you a phone number, all right, Okay, get here in front of me. Uh seven one three six nine nine two six six three seven one three six nine nine two six sixty three. If you want to go see the website. It's a f F Tree

Service dot com. Le me, okay, guarden line listener and get you up, you know, up in the line there towards the front of the line because he stays busy and so just make sure and let him know your guardline is he does put those up toward the front of the line.

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Okay, Well, I see you.

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Thank you, sir, you've bet Thanks for the call, and good luck getting all that tree situation under under control. All right. Yes, you're listening to garden line seven one three two one two kt r H seven one three two one two k t r H. That is the number. Have you noticed have y'all noticed the Texas sage blooming around town? Texas h. It's a silvery green leafed plant. Some some cultivars are greener, some are silk more silvery

but has these beautiful, typically pink blooms there. There's variations there, but we used to call it, or we do, called the barometer plant. That's one of the little slang words for it, because it tells you, you know, whenever we get rainfall and stuff like that, you see you see the plant burst out in blooms, and boy is it looking good around town? Is it's a beautiful pink color. I've grown those numerous times. It's a native plant. It

grows wild. You head out, you know, past San Antonio to Uvaldi and you're going to see it just as a wild brush out that way. But breeders had brought it in and made a nice plant out of it. And as long as you give it good drainage. It does not want to be in a swamp. But if it has good drainage, it will perform well. And I like the way that it just comes into bloom. Some people share it to make it boxy, which is what, for some reason we want to do to all these shrubs.

You shouldn't do that. You should do some just selective pruning to keep a kind of more natural mounded shape and it looks a lot better and it blooms a lot better by the way I saw it. Plants for All Seasons. Plants for All Seasons on High FM two forty nine Tomball Parkway. It's just north of Luetta. If you're going north for a Tomball you exit Luetta crossover Luetta. It's on the right hand side. But Plants for All Seasons has a bunch of those there, and they just

look really, really good. The nice thing, well, one of the nice things about Plants for All Seasons is they're always going to carry plants that will grow here, that will perform here. And they also are very knowledgeable, and so folks that have green thumbs you probably already know about Plants for All Seasons. It's a go to place. If you have a brown thumb and want to turn it green, well, all right, go to Plants for All Seasons and they'll help you do that. They'll provide advice,

they've got great products. They just are true lawn and garden experts at Plants for All Seasons. Here's a phone number two eight one three seven six sixteen forty six two eight one three seven six one six four six, or just go to the website Plants for All Seasons dot Com. Simple as that. But check out when you go by there, check out their Texas Sage. It's also called snizo ce n i z o. That's another name for it. Remember how remember the song from Gene Audry

Back in the Saddle Again. In fact, well let's play that for our next bumper song. Back in the Saddle Again. He sings about the sage in bloom smells light like perfume, deep in the heart of Texas. I love that, all right there, but I digress. Well, we're here to answer your gardening questions and help you have success. And we've been talking about a number of things today, like what's going on in the lawns, what you're expecting to see a disease and insect wise. Right now, now is the

time in the vegetable garden. Earlier trying to talk you into having a vegetable garden. Now is the time to be planting some of the warm season crops for fall. So if you want a fall tomato planting, you need to get it in in July. This is a time

to get it in. Sooner is better than later. You can plant pepper still, you can plant eggplant still, you can plant coming up here typically I'll do this more in August, but I'm planting things like cucumbers and summer squash for example, like zucchini and yellow squash, putting all those types of things in. As we get a little further into August, we're putting in potatoes for a fall crop. The regular potatoes you can plant for a fall crop

in those seasons. There's plenty of information. There's lots of good information online here locally in Houston for different groups that have their planting schedules for vegetables. So it makes it easy to stay up on things. If you have thought about ground vegetables, but you're thinking I don't own a rototiller and I don't have a back forty to till up. I've got a yard and I don't want to till it up. Then just there's other ways to

do it. And when we come back from this next break, I'm going to talk about some of the secrets of excess in growing vegetables in containers. I'll be right back. Welcome back to garden Line. We're back in the saddle again and ready to take your gardening questions. If you have a question, give us a call seven one three two one two k t r H seven one three two one two kt r H. We'll be happy to

address it. And I said before I went to break that I would when we come back, I would talk about gardening in containers, vegetable gardening specifically, But this applies to a lot of types of gardening in containers. So what are we going to suggest for that? Well, first of all, remember when you put a plant in a container, it's entire access to moisture to nutrients is from the soil that's in that container. In the ground outside. It can send roots far and wide and reach a huge

lume a soil to get moisture and nutrients from. So if it gets a little dry, it's not going to be as effected in a container. If you've got a pretty good sized plant and the containers a little on the small side, maybe by the end of the day it's already in drought stress on a hot, sunny summer day. So what we need to do is give the plants as big of a container as we can practically give them.

They do better in larger containers. Now their exceptions to that. Certainly, with the seasons changing, the container size won't be as big as it would need to be in summer to supply it. But you don't want to have to remember to water. And I've had containers that were small enough to where I was watering twice during the day just to keep the plants going well. So container size is important.

Quality container soil is also very important. You want a soil blend that is going to drain well but still hold moisture adequately to supply the plant. Good nutrition is important. Remember the only place that plant can get all the twenty plus nutrients it needs is out of the soil in that small, confined space of a container. So providing

quality fertilizer and gradual amounts over time. You can do that with small applications of fertilizer, or you can do that by providing a slow release fertilizer that releases gradually over time for you. But those are keys. The last thing is sunshine. Set your containers where it gets the right amount of sun. If your plants struggle in the blazing heat of summer, then give a morning sun with

some afternoon shade. If you can find a spot around the property like that, that is another tip that can help you have success. But you can grow almost any vegetable in a container that you can grow in the ground. There are very few exceptions, and with crazy sized containers you can even take care of those exceptions. But it's not that difficult to do. And I think it just really an enjoyable hobby to get out to garden to grow things you haven't grown before. And so there you go.

We're going to head out to the phones now and go to Spring and talk to Barbara. Hello, Barbara, welcome to garden Line.

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Thank you.

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I have a schu Mark red oak. It's thirty years old. Well, during the storm it got beat up really bad. It got topped and one side got completely torn off. So saber tree came out and they did tell me that it can't be saved. So I'm going to have it taken out and stunt ground. Okay, now I want to put grass back in that area. So do I have to take all those chips away and fill that hole with dirt?

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Well, first of all, I would ask the company to do as much of that as they can. Some even have a little type of vacuum type things that pulls up the loose sawdust and whatnot. But as much as you can get out you should for two reasons. Ruby One, as that fresh wood starts to decompose, it ties up nitrogen in the soil. You can fix that by adding extra nitrogen, so that's not the end of the world. The other thing is, as it decomposes away, that soil

is going to sink. Just the fact that they've loosened it up by grinding down into it. It's fluffing up the soil to do that. And that soil is going to sink anyway. And then if it also has wood in it, it's going to decompose away and sink even more. So leave it or mound it up a little bit like a picture's mound. Leave it mounded up a little so that when it does sink, it ends up more close to level.

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Right, Okay, okay, well I'll just yes, yes, that helps me a lot. Thank you very much. I appreciate it, you bet, Barbara.

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Thanks for the call. You take care. Good to have you with us today. I was talking about containers and the importance of soil, and Landscaper's Pride makes some quality soils that you can put in containers. They are designed for that. The thing I like to most talk about this time of year with Landscaper's Pride is the multous because when the sun comes out and it is baking down, it may be ninety five degrees outside, and the soil is way hotter than that. It's like the sidewalk or

even worse, a dark hardscape like asphalt. You know, it gets blazing hot. Well, soil is dark, it absorbs the radiation from the sun and it heats up too much, and plant roots anywhere in the top three inches are really struggling to even survive in that kind of temperature. When you put a Louisiana excuse me a Landscaper's pride, a black velvet melts down, beautiful naturally dark multch a

hardwood ultch down which is shredded hardwood. A pine bark mults down, which is a very resistant to decomposition malts. It sticks around for longest. Most popular one pine bark cedar mault cybers molts. All of those from Landscaper's Pride Landscaperspride dot com. Keep your soil most wherever sunlight hits the soil nature points a week and the summer sun gets the soil too hot for those roots up near their surface, especially for shallow rooted plants like our vegetables,

our flowers and our ears. All right, well, enough of that, we're gonna be talking about dirt for a while. We're gonna go to a break. Our phone number is seven one three two one two k t r H. I'd like to be the first ones up when we come back from break. That would be a good time to call and get on the boards. I also want to remind you that if you go online, my schedules are on my website, and that would be gardening with Skip

dot Com. Gardening with Skip dot Com. There you'll find the lawn care schedule and the lawn Coast Disease and read out and skip paper everything you need to know and they're free.

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Welcome to kt RH Guarden Line with Skip Rictor's.

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Just watch you as many things to.

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Welcome back to the garden Line on a nice Sunday morning. Glad to have you with us today. We're going to talk about all kinds of things related to gardening and if you have a question, if you can help turn your thumb greener and greener. That's why we're here. I want you to have a beautiful, bountiful gardening landscape. That is the goal. Well, let's start by just heading straight out to the phone. So we're going to go to Northwest Houston and talk to Malcolm. Hello, Malcolm, Hey, Skip,

how you doing this morning? Good? Very good? Thank you.

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Hey.

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I I don't have a question, but I've got some information that may be helpful to you and in your audience. The iPhone has a function that if you take a picture of a plant. You take the picture, then you pull it up. There's a little eye symbol down at the bottom that I guess for information that you push that and it'll help identify it'll look up and identify the plant.

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Okay, interesting fact.

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And so I mean a lot of a lot of things you see out out in the garden, you know, weeds and plants that neighbors gardens and stuff. You don't necessarily know what they are. But if you take the picture of it and use that function, it'll it'll it'll tell you at least you'll try to tell you what what it thinks it is.

Speaker 4

That is that is interesting. You know that there there are so many really cool new things that we get to enjoy because of these technologies. And I'm looking at my my iPhone right now and seeing, uh, yeah, there you go. It just works well.

Speaker 10

You find what I used?

Speaker 4

Yeah, what what I use for plant identification. There's a lot of apps out there that you know, or plant identification apps. I was, gosh, they're just a lot of them, and I've tried different ones and some of them are okay. A lot of them don't live in Texas and so they there data set is a little bit different than ours.

But the one app that I find very helpful is Google Chrome, Google Lens, l E N S. And so if you have even on an iPhone, if you have the Google app there, when you go to it, there's a little square with the Google colors, you know, those primary colors, and if you click on it, you can either use your phone when you're looking at a plant to do the same thing, or you can go find a photo that's in your photos and it'll do that

and it'll get you. I found it to be pretty accurate, especially if you if the picture really shows the plant you're talking about. You know, I keep point it at the woods because there's a plant in there somewhere. You want. It's not going to know what you're looking for. You've got to take the picture of the plant.

Speaker 7

Good detail, that.

Speaker 4

Would be true. Also of the function you mentioned the iPhone a little eye at the bottom of the bottom right of the screen. Yeah, it does very healthful.

Speaker 10

Yes.

Speaker 9

And it works with bugs too, So if you got a bug, a certain bugger thing, you can identified bug.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it does. And in fact I found entomologically it to be almost better than it is with plants. It's really really good. And if it doesn't give you the right answer, it puts you in the ballpark. So then you can do a search, like maybe it gives you a genus and that plant looks close, but that's not quite it. Well, then you can go search for that online and actually find the one that it is. It's it's scarily effective.

Speaker 9

Thanks for the good show man. I just want to pass up all my kids. They know everything about phones. They're the one that told me about that.

Speaker 2

And.

Speaker 4

I appreciate. I appreciate that because I guarantee you every gardener needs these things. Often. I know you're you're in somebody's yard and it's like they have a beautiful plant and you want it, uh, and you don't know what it is, and they're not there to ask or whatever, and yeah, I mean it just there's a lot of times when we use those, so that's that's a good thing. By the way, it's these aren't just plant functions.

Speaker 1

Uh.

Speaker 4

If you are in a store and you see someone walking around with shoes you like, uh in discreete and just uh discreetly, uh just kind of point your phone down there and it'll tell you what they are and where to get them.

Speaker 9

Be careful with that one. Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, they even do. They even do bill exactly, like especially famous areas, like you're in Europe and you see this building and you point your phone at it and it'll tell you, oh, that's the big Ben clock in London, Texas or whatever. I'm London, Texas, London, England. So yeah, all right, good, good points. Thanks man. I appreciate that too. You thank you you as well as well. Yeah, you

guys have got to try these things out. Malcolm just mentioned the little eye at the bottom right of the screen if with an iPhone, but whether you have an Android or an Apple device, you can use Google lens also, and it's just just if you do a search for it, you see what the little emblem looks like. But all Google emblems have those primary Google colors in them. But it's a little square almost like a little TV set

kind of thing. Uh, And it works super well. And for those of you on Android that don't have the iPhone with the little eye lower case eye on the bottom, Google lens is definitely one you need to be using. It works very very well. All right, you're listening to garden Line. We are just enlightening and enlightening and enlightening this morning on things related to plants. Seven one three two one two KTRH. That's our number. If you'd like to give us a call, we look forward to talking

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it's time for us to take a break. If you'd like to get on the on the board seven one three two one two KTRH And when we come back, Elizabeth, you'll be our first stup doctor Guardline. Good to have you with us this morning. We are going to head straight out to the phones and talk to Elizabeth in Oak Forest. Weokome the garden line.

Speaker 3

Elizabeth, good morning, Skith. How are you doing.

Speaker 4

I'm well, thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes, I'm driving from Houston to Galveston and I've driven out of the rain and it's beautiful out here. It's dry on the roads, so that's good. So Skip, I have been gardening in Houston for decades and I am battling Cat's claw, this invasive, diabolical line. And I have a friend who feorizes it came somehow with Hurricane Ike, because you know, decades ago, we didn't have cat's claw. We had you know, a little bit of trumpet vine, and you know nut grass and Johnson weed and dollar

weed and all the stuff or Johnson grass. But how do you suggest we combat this stuff? Because I moved temporarily and took my pot plants with me, and by hockey, I accidentally transferred some cats claw to that yard, and I spent a lot of time trying to kill up there.

Speaker 4

Yeah, just so to make sure we're talking about the same plant. This has yellow flowers, bright yellow flowers, and.

Speaker 3

It's got little claws.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Kind it has leaves or like in sets of two, like a pair of leaves right on the vine with the little structure.

Speaker 3

Yeah, a little football shaped leaves, a nice darker green, not goloss through flat.

Speaker 4

Okay, all right, with the yellow flowers is a big distinguishing thing on them for most people. Well, okay, it has underground storage structures. Yeah, a sweet sweet potato for example. They're not that big, but they're like that. I guess they might get that big cast cloud is extremely aggressive, as you know. Uh, And what you gotta do is you gotta you gotta cut off the top growth and go ahead and just as much as you can just get it out of the garden.

Speaker 6

Uh.

Speaker 4

There are seed pods that will drop the seeds, and that's probably came in with your pop plant. There was a seed that comes or something like that. But you you are gonna then want to dig up those tubers. Now I've never tried, you, I've never tried using a brushy wheat control product on it. I think I would think that if you put a product containing Triclo peer t R I c l O P y R, that's the ingredient, and you'll find it in things that say like they're a poison ivy killer or a stump and

brush killer. Those typically have Triclo peer in them. If you take Triclos straight and get you a little foam brush from hardware store, you know that little the kind that have a little wooden handle that they use for painting, but it's a piece of fuel on the end, and dip it in the product straight and paint that on the green stems down near the ground. Do about a foot up and down on the green stems everywhere you see it. It will soak in if they're a little slick.

Sometimes it helps to put a little bit of oil mixed in with it. Some people will use he drops the diesel oil, but that's just to make it stick. The oil is not to kill the plant. But anyway, it works on almost every woody thing I've ever tried, even Chinese tallow, which is hard to kill with herbicides, but just painted on so we're not spraying things everywhere and killing other things you don't want to kill. But

I would do that and it'll translocate down. If this is an established plant, it probably has enough underground storage tubers to where one little application of that is not going to completely kill it. You don't have to do it again. Good hand hand digging and or painting that product onto the stems, up and down the stems. Those are the two things that I would recommend, and then just be in diligent because you're going to see it popping up, just like the seed probably came with that

pot you took. You're going to see it popping up. So you just have to watch for it and shut it down before it has a chance to get established.

Speaker 3

Well, I think all my neighbors have it too, and everybody's yard guys are constantly whacking it away with a weed whacker. But it's still just it's.

Speaker 8

Do you do you know what?

Speaker 3

Do you know what I'm talking about? Hit it this in Houston before.

Speaker 4

Ike, so you know, uh, yeah, people have had it here and there for years. It's been around it's not native here. It comes from like more tropical areas south of US, you know, the West Indies, Mexico and down on south of Brazil and that way. But it is it is persistent here because it can take cold temperatures. The top parts will take it down to I think

it's about an eight zone eight a point. I'd have to check that to be sure, but I know here it survives, and then there's no getting rid of it unless you take these measures that I'm talking about.

Speaker 3

All right, well, I'm sure do appreciate it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you might want to the things I've told you, jot them down and share them with neighbors that are willing to listen. Just because somebody has it. Then you're gonna the seeds have they don't have I don't know if it's wings, but they have a way of kind of floating and going outward. You know how like an maple tree, you know, has those wings, and so they're like a little helicopters that float around as they drop down.

There's something sort of like that. And so your neighbor having some up in a tree, if the wind's right, you're they're going to give it to you.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, we it's everywhere. Well, thank you, I really appreciate it. You have a great rest of your weekend already, all right.

Speaker 4

Bye bye, thank you for the call. Yeah, oh gosh. You know, there are a lot of plants out there that have nice features. I mean, if you want something that can take reflected heat, blazing hot temperatures and cover a wall and grab onto it and give this nice covering of green everywhere. Plus you get a few yellow flowers, that's catclaw. But I wouldn't recommend planting it for reasons that you just heard as we talked to Elizabeth. We

have other plants that have wonderful features. But you know, when you put it in a blender and mix it up and pour it out, the bottom line is, don't do it because all the bad stuff that these plants bring. Remember Chinese tallow, I say, remember remember when it came in. For some of you who have been around for a few decades, when Chinese sallow came in, it was initially beekeepers. When they love it because it makes some of the

best honey. It's an excellent plant for that. It has one of the few plants that has really good, dependable fall color. Another asset of Chinese tallow, But on a balance scale, it is incredibly negative and the negatives are just outweigh the good things. It doesn't live a long time, and the landscape it recedes and it takes over. Entire Southeast Texas has had a problem with the invasive woody weed called Chinese tallow for a very long time. But

just remember that check on plants before you get them. Now, you go to a reptable, reputable nursery like the ones we talk about on Guard nine. They are not going to sell you a Chinese teleplant. They're not. But there are people that will provide them, whether sharing them with friends or I've seen you know, a little I don't know, homemade garden centers. You know, they pop up and they just sell stuff they shouldn't sell. Anyway, Just a little

warning about some of the plants. They can be invasive or they can have other negative negative effects we don't want. Well, speaking of a beautiful landscape. Piercecapes pierceescapes dot com. That's their website, and that's where you need to go because I'm going to tell you about Peerscapes. But you got to see Peerscapes, okay, And the website shows you that when you go to the website, you are going to see all the things that they can do. They can

fix irrigation systems. You got a poorly drained area, you should know it if you do, because it's rained and rain So those spots where the water just stands, it doesn't want to drain. How many times have you read a description of a plant that said requires good drainage? About ninety five percent of the plants out there need good drainage. Well, Pierce Scapes can fix that area. Do you want hard scapes? Do you want landscape lighting? Do you just have some flower beds that you want taken

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oh fifty sixty. All right, you are listening to Guardline and if you would like to call in, our phone number is seven to one three two one two fifty eight seventy four seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four, give well a call, get you on the boards and we will answer your questions that you might have. I've I've talked about a number of different things today. One thing that I have not meant well. I talked about gardening and containers and vegetables and containers.

You can also grow flowers and herbs and containers. And if there are there's different ways to go about herbs. Some people go all out. They have a they develop a beautiful herb garden that is geometrically balanced. It has a very nice design. You know, there's one called a not knot design where you have these it's like there's a knot of lines that go through the garden and plants are planted in those areas and it's so aesthetic. It's so aesthetic. You don't have to grow a whole

herb garden to have herbs. And when I come back from break, which I'm about to take here. When I come back, I will talk about growing herbs and containers. So stay tuned. If you'd like to give us a call, you can be first up when we come back. Seven one three two one two KTRH. Welcome back to guard Line. Good to have you with us this morning. We were talking before break about, by the way, our phone number

seven one three two one two kt RH. We were talking before break about growing herbs, and I was saying, you don't have to have a beautiful herb garden to grow herbs in. If you don't do that, that's fine. They're very gorgeous. You see some beautiful designs and whatnot. You can grow herbs and containers, and you can grow herbs in flower beds. You can grow herbs and vegetable beds. So let's start with the vegetable beds. At the end of my vegetable rose, I will often plant some herb.

Maybe it's chives. When chives bloom, they attract tons of pollinators. The pollinators love their blooms, and that's one reason I do it. Maybe it is a groundcover type herb like a regano or a bush like rosemary, which also has flowers, by the way, especially the trailing types. But those are just an addition so when you're out there. I used to have a row I called my tomato sauce row. It was paste tomatoes, you know, the little globe or oblong oval tomatoes. And I had a regano on one end.

I had basil on the other end. And so basically you could just go down the row harvesting, bring it in, and you were ready to go on making your pizza, pizza paste or whatever you want to create. Anyway, you can also plant herbs again, like I said, for flowers in the vegetable garden to help support pollinators. That is important. One vegetable garden I had there wasn't room for things, and I was confined, and so I wanted to save all my space for growing stuff I could eat, because

that's why I had that garden. So I used large buckets and hung them on posts on the fence that went around the vegetable garden. And I had a little drip line that went down the row, and each bucket had a little drip emetter in it and it would come on automatically. It was on a garden hose timer. And so those buckets, which remember containers need watering more often they would get watered every day with a small amount of water and they would bloom. They would hang

down there. I had herbs that could pick there, but I also was bringing in pollinators. In fact, there wasn't just herbs in it. I used some trailing flowers that have that are very attractive to pollinators and are beautiful in a ornamental type bed like a flower bed for example, or lining a path. Herbs like chives make a good product to line a path. You could use it like you would use loriope. You know how they put loriope

around beds and things. Herbs that are trailing. I mentioned to regano time is another example, and there are others would be good as a ground cover in certain areas. Maybe you just want some groundcovers to go around the bottom of rose beds. You know, as long as they get decent amount of sunlight under there, something like a regino could grow in an area like that. So I guess what I'm trying to say is recognize that herbs are versatile. Rosemary is one of the most drought tolerant

plants that we have in our landscapes. So you need a little evergreen shrub and you have good drainage. Must have good drainage. Rosemary would be an option, and there you go. You just go out there and you can pick your herbs right from your landscape. Herbs also do welling containers and containers. You can grow any kind of herb that you want to grow, as long as a container is big enough. You can have something upright in the center, like lemongrass that grows upward and makes a

very tall plant. If it was a large container, you could plant something trailing around the sides of it. Another good example is pineapple sage. It's a type of salvia with beautiful tubular red blooms that attract hummingbirds, and the foliage smells like pineapples. It's really really nice. Now I could go on and on giving you examples, but I guess what I'm saying is, let's let the herbs get out of the vegetable garden or out of the herb garden and go wherever we want them. Maybe there's just

two herbs that you care about. Maybe it's basil and rosemary. Maybe that's all you care about. Grow those. Basil loves summer heat, it loves containers, It has blooms that do attract beats and pollinators. So wherever you want to put it, go for it. As long as it's sunny and warm and well drained, Basil's going to be happy, all right. Just a few tips there on herbs. If you'd like to give us a call here on guardline, all you

have to do is doll seven one three. That's seven one three two one two kt r h. Suppose that seven one three two one two kt r ah. Well, I'm gonna while we're while we're discussing different kinds of plants and different uses for different kind of plants, I want to talk a little bit about hanging baskets. Now, you are very familiar with beautiful floriferous hanging baskets. For example, when we get to summertime, boom and Villa is a wonderful plant for hanging baskets. It's blooms last and last

and last and last. You probably provided proper care and in a good sunny spot, and it will do very well for you. Another good hanging basket plant is Scavola. Scavola is also called fan flower fan flower. Now you can get variations on color in it, but primarily Scavola is a blue to purplish, a purplish blue flower, uh, and it is very heat tolerant. I was kidding with someone recently and said you could throw scavola on a barbecue pet when you put your burgers down, and when

you opened it up, the scavola would still be thriving. Well, that's an exaggeration, but my point is it never gets too hot for scabola. It can get too soggy for scabola. If you don't have good drainage, it will rot in a heartbeat. But if you give it good drainage, it performs well. Scavola another one per Slaine, and I'm going to make it two things in one per Slaine and moss rose, which is Portulaca. Perce Lane and Portulaca have blooms that each last a day, and they are beautiful

and they come in every color under the sun. In fact, you would want to view those up close, because when you get a whole bunch of colors on one plant, then in one basket. Rather, it's good to view it up close. But that can take as much heat as Houston summers can give it. It is tough. It needs good drainage. Of course, but it's a succulent, so if you forget to water it, it's gonna be okay. You may not get the bloom production you did. It would have if you'd given it some moisture. But it's very

tough and it can take that. And I could go on and on. Don't forget there's foliage plants that can grow in containers like Dichondra are silver pony foot. It's just like the name describes. It is very silver and it trails down and it is beautiful. We have some in one of our vego beds where we have a bunch of flowers and it just looks beautiful coming over the side. Well, there's a few tips to consider. We're

going to take a break here time for that. When we come back, Robert, you will be our first up for the rest of you. Seven one three two one two kt r H. How many of your Jim welcome back to guard Line. Glad you're listening today, and look forward to visiting with you about the questions that you might have. You know, we've had a lot of storms, a lot of storms that have come through and just devastated our trees. They've knocked out our power, and a

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Speaker 11

Need more Yes, sir, could you discuss fullier fertilization.

Speaker 2

UH.

Speaker 11

To give you some background, I tried using one of those dry granular water soluble cans and UH sprayed on the leaves and I think I've burned the plants. You know, I can't get it to you, but the leaves were kind of burned. And UH, do you use an organic uh fertilizer or do you use a synth? Doesn't matter?

Speaker 4

In the summertime, it was real hot. Okay, good. Those are great questions. And let me give you a quick overview of this organic fertilizers are typically things like fish and mulsion and seaweed. There are other organic folier products that you can put out. They may have other things in them, like certain kinds of plant hormones, or they may have molasses, and they are a lot of things that they can put in those products. Those typically do

not burn. I guess I don't know if you spray them straight without even mixing them and water, if they would burn, but nobody would do that. If you come anywhere close to the right mixture, they are not going to burn your plant. Synthetic products are typically salt based. If they are too strong, they will burn. And when you're watering the base of a plant with the soluble synthetic liquid, that's one thing. When you're spraying that same thing on the foliage, it has to be much more diluted.

And the labels on those products, if they have a label for folier application, they will give you a much diluted rate for that. In that case, you won't burn. But you've got to really watch that. You want to spray anything early in the morning when it's cool, and that gives it more time to absorb and it helps cut down on the sun baking down and contributing to burn.

There's another reason we spray in the morning. Early in the morning, there's little openings on the bottom of the leaf called stomates that are open up, and when you spray, you want to spray upward from under the plant, not just on the top. A gravity will cause the spray to fall back down on the top, but make sure you coat the undersides of the leaves because you get more uptake through there. Some nutrients go into the leaves

very readily. Some nutrients do not go into the leaves very readily, and so it's a matter of the right concentration. Spray early in the morning, spray upward from underneath the plant. And primarily we're using those folio sprays for the micro nutrients that a plant needs. The plant was designed to take up nutrients through the roots. That's the best way

to fertilize a plant. But there are reasons to use a folier spray in addition to trying to get nutrients in Okay click, could you do both of them?

Speaker 11

I mean, would it be an advantage to using both folier in the soil fertilization.

Speaker 4

There are situations where you would do that Folier is immediate, and you know, let's say you've got iron deficiency and you're trying to get it in a leaf. It's immediate, and iron can't be moved around in the plant once it's been put into a leaf. That's why new leaves show the iron deficiency. The plant can't take it from

ole leaves and move it to new leaves. So iron to be an example of one that you might want to do a folier application for to get a quick fix on the plant, but you still want to do the soil fertilization, and that's important. Another reason I occasionally will folier is when I'm checking for a deficiency. See there's a certain pattern that magnesium deficiency makes in plants, and it's a kind of a green Christmas tree in

the middle of a not so green leaf. And so if I think it's magnesium, I'm mix up a little EPs and salts in water at the proper rate, spray it on the plant, and if I see a response of greening, then I know, yep, that was a magnesium deficiency because that's all magnesium self, that's all that's in epsen salt. So you can use it as a test saying, oh, I need to add more magnesium to my soil too. Now, okay, well, thank you for information. I hope that wasn't confusing.

Speaker 10

No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4

Thanks a lot, all right, sir, thank you for the call. I appreciate you very much. Good to talk to you. That's a good question too. By the way, let's see here I did want to mention. Nelson Plant Food has plant food in jars. Now, you know about the bags of fertilizer. You know we talk about all the time, this low and easy, it's the slow release nutrient for summertime, last months. But they also have these jars you need to buy, the nutri Star jars, hibiscus and flowering tropicals,

the indoor plant nutri Star, there's the color Star. They all come in jars.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 4

You can refill those jars at local retailers. There's twelve that I'm aware of. There's twelve different local retailers that carry Nelson product jar refill stations. So you take your old plastic jar in. Rather than buying more plastic and putting that in the environment, you take your old jar in. You go up there, you pull the handle just like you're buying peanuts at a grocery store. You know how they have those little pool handles and you can refill

things or fillip bags. You do that and it's much more economical way to buy fertilizer. U Plus, it saves the issue with that plastic all brings. So just a little tip if you love those Nelson products, they are available a jar refill stations, and if you send us an email here guard Line just some information on different places that have it'd be glad to point you to one, because I think that's a great, just makes sense, good way to go. Well, we're I hear the music. That

means I've got to shut up here pretty quick. Marty and Fairfield. Sorry, we're able to get to you this hour. If you are able to hang on, we'll get to your next hour. If you need to hang up and call back, we'll get you put to the front of the line. I appreciate you calling it. I just want to remind you that it is the time of the year when we are planning our cool season actually warm season, butchells to fall and still warm season flowers for the

fall garden. So don't stop piming just because it's getting hot.

Speaker 1

Welcome to kat r h Garden Line with Scamp Richards.

Speaker 4

Just watch him as a sad welcome back, Welcome back to the Guardline. Good to have you back with us. We are looking forward to visiting with you for right now, I'm gonna get away from the phones just for a little bit, and uh, I wanna talk about a couple of different things. I have a you know, we've noticed a little bit of a damage to our homes and our trees during these storms, right and I say a little bit, uh, you know, tongue in cheek. It's been

devastating and people without power, family members of mine. Both of the last two storms where they knocked out the power seemed like they were the last one to get back on and they went like over a week each time. What happens when you got a refrigerator full of food? What happens when you have a work from home job and you got to work. You need a generator. And that's what people are doing right now. It is unprecedented the number of people that are looking for Okay, that's

enough of this. I've got to get a generator to do this. And when I look out on the market, I see a lot of products out there and a lot of companies out there, and like any industry, I don't care what it is, carpentry, plumbing, gardening, anything like that, you got people that know what they're doing or doing a good job, and then you got people that are not.

And I would like to help you as you are considering getting a generator with just some basic things that you need to know, basic things that you may need to ask the person that you're going to purchase that from. And I've asked I'm looking for an expert here, and I've asked Joey Davis from Quality Home Products to come on the show for me and let's talk about having success with a quality generator for you. Joey, are you there?

Speaker 2

I am, Yes, sir, I've been waiting here and ready to talk.

Speaker 4

Well, thanks for patiently waiting on us. I did want to have you on because there's a lot of information and a lot of it you've made me aware of as we've talked and had our conversation. But I would just like to kind of let people know some things. You know, we're not of course, we're not here just to talk about y'all's products. Of course, I don't know anybody that is more knowledgeable about the overall world of generators and what's out there and what happens than you. Now, boy,

has this ever been? Has this ever been? Some doozy storms that we've had? Right with the past storm and I can't remember what they called that storm, but it wasn't a hurricane, but then Hurricane Barrel that came through. I bet you guys have noticed a little bit of interest in generators.

Speaker 2

Oh man, Yeah, that is an understatement of all understatements.

Speaker 5

It has just been crazy and you know the outages that occurred when over three million people were without power, and you know, many folks in Houston have generators these days. So we were just completely inundated with calls Monday and really ever since then. But the problem was is that even though we have the most sophisticated phone system available, we were literally getting thousands and thousands of calls an hour, and there was there's no phone system in the world

that can handle that kind of thing. The biggest issue was it wasn't just our clients that were calling in. You know, the majority of clients coming in and some of them leading long voice fails. They were what's called generator orphans. In other words, after the winter storm of twenty one, there were three hundred and ninety two new generator companies that sprung up in Houston.

Speaker 4

Now that's say that number again new company. That's like when a hailstorm comes through, roofers appear out of nowhere.

Speaker 2

It is exactly like that.

Speaker 5

And the bad thing was these are a post office fox companies in other words, they're oftentimes are out of state, they have no office here even But what they would do is they would contact local electricians, local plumbers and get them to represent them and selling and installing generators. Well, the problem with that is that you don't know who is actually installing your generator. And it is imperative that the people that are installing your generator or servicing your

generator are factory training, factory trained technicians. If not, your warranty is null and void from from the get go.

Speaker 4

So we are you're warranty. Yeah, your warranty on the equipment is not invoid. If it's not properly according to code.

Speaker 2

That's exactly right. Any code violation whatsoever, it's.

Speaker 4

Null and void.

Speaker 5

And the reality is, you know, we've always used our own w two employees they're all all of our service techts or factory trained up in Wisconsin for either Cola or Generat, so they know what they're doing. But unfortunately, this mass influx of you know, carpetbaggers or everyone want to put it. They come in after every event like this, whether it be the winter storm of twenty one, you know, any hurricane that we've.

Speaker 2

Had in the past.

Speaker 5

You know, these these groups, and I'm not going to cast dispersions on them, but they come in and they you know, they just make money and they go away.

Speaker 2

But what happens is.

Speaker 4

Well that's how that's how it is.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it really is.

Speaker 5

So those generators are not maintained and might they have to be maintained A to keep your warranty intact and b just to make sure that they're going to be ready when we have an event like this.

Speaker 4

Well, I would say another thing is making sure you get a generator that does what you need it to do. And I'd like you to talk a little bit. First of all, would you mind addressing the issue with the portable versus the standby generators. What's the difference and what would you use one for? What would you use the other one? For so people can kind of think through what it is that they might need.

Speaker 2

Sure, And that's a great question.

Speaker 5

First of all, I want to say that, you know, growing up in Houston in the sixties, only the hyper wealthy people had central AC. Most people had, you know, the window units and that was their air conditioning. And you know, now, of course every bitt home is being built, they all have central AC. It's much the same in the generator industry. You know, people usually start out with a portable generator that can service portionents.

Speaker 2

Over your home and it's better than nothing.

Speaker 5

But the stand by systems that we sell and other companies sell as well, those are set up to automatically come on the event of an outage and for you not to have to do anything.

Speaker 2

You don't have to worry about there being code violations by a portable unit is set.

Speaker 5

You know, the portable units, they are great in a pinch, they do have pretty severe limitations and really the.

Speaker 2

Biggest thing is is that they're very dangerous unless you really follow.

Speaker 5

Proper protocol on those. So they produce car outside just like these stand by systems. However, the standby systems are permitted projects and they have to meet national fire safety codes.

Speaker 2

They have to meet local electrical and.

Speaker 5

Plumbing codes as well as national ones, so you know you're safe with one of those. You know, people just don't really know how to use a portable generator, and so you know, we'd really like to talk about that that if you've got to use a portable generator, you have to make it where you're not going to have an accumulation of carbon monoxide in your garage or inside your home or anything like that.

Speaker 4

And that's good, good, Yeah, that's really good information. Joey, We're gonna I have to hit a little break right here before we go to the next segment, but when we come back, I'd like to land in the standby generators and give people some ideas what they need to know about a standby generator, from choosing one to hooking it up. I don't know if we can do all that that past, but we'll give it away. All right. I'll be right back with you in just a moment.

Speaker 2

That sounds great, Seah, thank you very much.

Speaker 4

All right, welcome back to Garden Line. I want to jump right back into our interview with Joey Davis. Were picking his brain about some things regarding generators and Joey, you know, it probably would take an hour if you hurried to try to explain stand by generators and all the ways that they can work and the things they do, and how you size them and all that. But kind of in a nutshell, I was really surprised to learn

that you can set up a stand by generator. Chris is going to come on automatically, but you can set it up to where it prioritizes certain things in your home that you wanted to prioritize, or you can set it up to just take care of everything. So would you talk just briefly about that?

Speaker 2

Sure, I'd love to.

Speaker 5

So the way these systems are these days that you should not always be the case, but the way they are now for the most part, they're what's called managed load transfer and then enables you to get into a generator that powers your whole house and not necessarily rated to power your whole house. And what I mean by that with manage so transfer, which is literally like ninety five percent of our projects and most other companies.

Speaker 2

As well, it acts like a full load transfer.

Speaker 5

Like you alluded to there, but specific two twenty items like air conditioning units, dryers, ovens, could be electric water heaters, that sort of thing. They're still on the generator and as long as you don't use everything at the same time, those won't be turning off. And the way that color and generact manages it's a little bit different. A color

just turns off the least important item. If you have multiple things managed, a generat will turn off all of the items and then start turning them back on in thirty minutes. But literally it's the way to go. I mean, full load transfer is certainly still available, but oftentimes on even a normal sized house, you're up into what's called a liquid cool generator to.

Speaker 2

Do a full load transfer. And what I mean by that.

Speaker 5

Yea, oh yeah, they're car range. They mean literally they're four to twelve cylinder, they have radiators. They literally operate just.

Speaker 2

Like a car engine.

Speaker 5

So there is some benefits for those, namely they're a little quieter. But to your point, the price point is significant. The jump between the air cools, which are like motorcycle engines, up into the liquid cools. So you know, it's kind of a misnomer to think that when you have one of these systems, if there's one thing more important than the other.

Speaker 2

However, we do prioritize.

Speaker 5

Managed items because like I said, on color, it would only turn off the least important item if there's more than one, and on GENERAC when they after thirty minutes, the you know, the least important, the most important one comes back on.

Speaker 2

Now that all being said, we flat out and.

Speaker 5

Never have that happen because we have very specific design criteria that we employ to make sure that we don't have what's called a management situation unfold where things are turning off.

Speaker 2

So we don't just design to code. You know, everything is based on National Electric Code.

Speaker 5

There's a very specific formulatic equation that we use to design these in terms of how big of a generator you can get or how small you can go down. We have very specific rules about that, such as the AC rule, And I'm not trying to get into all specifics, but it's our checks and balances to make sure that things aren't turning off, so there's nothing go ahead and

there's nothing scary about these management of transfer systems. On my house, the only thing that I'm managing is the AC and I'll never even know that it's managed other than I designed it. That way, and the reason for that is those other two rules outside of code that we use.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well, I know, you guys do a lot of things that are above and beyond compared to the standards for the industry. For example, you you have all your like your electricians are in house, your plumbers are in house, so you don't have to contract out to other people and try to get everybody to show up at the right time and do what the absolutely I mean you handle Yeah, you handle the codes and stuff like if you've got to get permission from the city, which you do,

you'll handle that. And so it's like the homeowner, that's a that's a big relief to know that that is just all being taken care of. And I think I like that that load management because it allows you to get a generator does what you needed to do without buying a generator that is just humongous and expensive.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 10

Right.

Speaker 4

And another thing that yeah, another thing I think that that is important. There are a number of questions that people may need to ask when they're going about that, And because our time is too short today, what I've done,

folks is I've posted the garden Line Facebook page. Go to the garden Line Facebook page, and I've posted there are a lot of questions to ask, but I posted nine questions in a helpful checklist, and just look at those, think through them, and as you're out shopping for a generator, those are some of the things you need to ask people. So we'll save the time by just sending Guardline Facebook page.

It's right up there. It's very very helpful, and I appreciate you know, the knowledge and stuff that you guys bring, because I had no idea how how much information is really helpful in order to make a good decision to not only get the most out of your dollar, but to understand what is and what's not included, because you guys include things that some companies may not tell you aren't included, and then later you find out, well, you

know that that's not included in what we're doing. That would be an extra charge that makes our generator looks cheaper, but in the bottom line, it really isn't.

Speaker 2

Well that's still very true.

Speaker 5

I mean, oftentimes people come to one of our reps or myself and say, hey, you guys are more expensive than X y z or ZYX.

Speaker 2

But in an apples to apples comparison to.

Speaker 5

Your point, including things that they really need, like cell based constant monitoring.

Speaker 4

Is that tell about that real briefly? That tell about that? That is fascinating, Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 5

So it's like having an iPhone on the generator and even if your powers out and the generator won't start, we can still communicate to it. We either know what's wrong with it and we need to come out with certain parts, or more often than not, we can actually get them going remotely by doing firmware updates or clearing fault codes, things of that nature. It's huge, it may it's made a huge for us and our failure rates which are really really small compared to.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and the next level down, which we see in the industry a lot is what is below cell bas Wi Fi. How do people say they can talk to their generator but not really?

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's it's what's called free Wi Fi and monitoring. It actually comes on board with all generators. And I can't say, because I know Kohler and generator like that. There might be some minor players that don't even include the Wi Fi. But that's just a nifty app on the homeowner's phone. They can see how many hours their generator has been running. They can remotely turn it on

or off, but that does nothing for us. We want to be able to have real time conversation with generators and the only way to do that is with this cell based constant monitoring. And that is monetize for other companies.

Speaker 2

It's just part of the deal with us. We just make sure that our generators work. That's our calling cards, so to speak. Because these are big investments. You want to have not just to lead anchor in your backyard. You want to have something that actually functions the way that we tell people are going to function.

Speaker 4

Mm hmm. That's good. That's good. Well, in addition to like making sure a company is gonna well, asking if they'll do will you contact you know, will you contact HOA or cities? Are you you know that all the rags you're talking about. Will you come out and do a pad? I know I've seen generators where the pad is thin, likely to break in our moving Houston soils.

You guys can build a bigger pad so if someone's going by with a lawnmower, the pat sticks out so you don't bang your generator and do damage that way too, And there's a lot of little small things like that that I think are important.

Speaker 5

They really are, you know, and they're important to us because we really care about our clientele at at the end of day day. I mean, that's why we build the oversized concrete slabs. We don't put these on what's called the gen pad, which is just a very lightweight concrete the same size of the generator, and then there's no steel. It's just a very short, lightweight pad, which is easier. But we don't do the things the easy way,

you know. We'll form up with two by six's, you know, an oversized pad six inches larger than the generator all around, and then let that cure break the forms off and then you have a real sturdy piece of concrete that these generators are anchor bolted too.

Speaker 2

So you know, these are vibrating pieces of equipment.

Speaker 5

They're more like motorcycles than anything else on the air cools and then car engines. So those vibrates, you want them to be firmly affixed to something really bulky and heavy just to keep them from vibrating.

Speaker 2

And plus it cuts down on the noise factor as well.

Speaker 4

Right, and they can some of them can be powered by natural gas or whatnot. And every time you add, you know, here we have electricity, now ride natural gas. Uh. There's a lot of codes, and there's a lot of permits, and there's a lot of things that have to happen because this thing is set up to where it's set up. And I was surprised at how fast they come on. Uh, you know, power goes out, and how fast will one of these kick on when it well?

Speaker 5

A colar A coler waits four seconds to determine if it's an actual outage. A generator waits, generate GENERAC waits ten seconds. Both of them then take seven seconds to spool up to sixty herbs, so seventeen total seconds for generat, eleven seconds for colar.

Speaker 2

So it is a very brief period.

Speaker 5

And then when the power comes back on the power company it absolutely doesn't just turn the generator off. It waits until the power company is delivering an exact sixty heard sign wave for ten full seconds.

Speaker 4

Then they tell us why that's important, tell us why that's important.

Speaker 5

Because everybody's experienced from the power comes back on in your house, it's on off, on, off, on off. That is so destructive to motherboards and all the appliances that we have, and see our TVs.

Speaker 2

I mean everything has got a.

Speaker 5

Computer in it these days, and that dirty energy is what it de fries so many people's washing machines and dryers. You know, the electronics section this acts like a firewall against that dirty energy. So your generator generator bay one for fifteen or twenty minutes after everybody else's lives come on, but that whole time it's protecting you and your electrical system and appliances.

Speaker 4

See, these are things that I wouldn't have known. I know a lot of people wouldn't know. And I think, you know, kind of a bottom line deal here is call and talk to people, get the information. Call around. But you guys are from quality. Definitely include quality because what you're going to find, and this is true when you buy anything. You know, you go to buy a Chevrolet and then you go over to the Ford dealership and you hear and you hear things that you didn't hear at the other place.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

I think they need to get the whole package and then make their decision which would company they want to go with, which what generator they want to buy and stuff, but you don't know what you don't know. And that's one reason, Joey, I appreciate you coming on today so that, you know, we just get kind of an intro to some of the things that people may not have been aware of. And I really appreciate it. We could talk

to you for a day. I mean, there's a lot of more information, but go to my facebook page, Guardenline facebook page, look at the questions we had here. I've got a link to Quality Home on it. If you want to, you know, save that link. I know a lot of people are buying generators right now. It is crazy the number of people that have said that's enough

these last two storms. I need a generator. And depending on what you need, and the folks at Quality Home they'll tell you, I mean, if you don't need one of these standbys, if what you're wanting to do a portable will do, they'll tell you that. But the bottom line is get your infrom so that your dollars are well spent and then when the problem comes, you've got the equipment and the setup that's needed to do what you needed to do. Joey, I've run past my break here.

Thank you, so much for being on. Sorry to have to cut off so fast now, it's very very okay.

Speaker 5

I'm really glad you mentioned that checklist, you know, speaking about the fact that we don't use subcontractors.

Speaker 2

It's really not specific to us, but that's huge.

Speaker 5

You don't want to use a customer using contractors for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much.

Speaker 4

You bet well, Yeah, thank you. Good to see good to talk to you again. Hey, we're going to be right back. Take a little break here, and when we come back, we'll be back with your gardening question. So call in seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Welcome, more, welcome, Welcome back to garden Line. God to have you with us. I hope that was helpful for you. I know, I'm telling you the number

of generators being sold right now. And I just like anything any business, you get out there and you don't know what you need to ask, You don't maybe know the things that are available or not of available, or thing you know, it's the whole deal. I hope that was helpful for you, guys. I certainly do. Uh. We are back now, ready to take your calls. Seven one three two one two five eight seven, four, seven, one

three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Give us a call and we'll visit with you about the things that are of interest to you. One of the things that happens, you know, we talked about all the rain we've been getting, and when that happens to a clay soil, especially certain types of clays types we have here, they swell up, they actually get bigger, uh, and then when it gets dry, they shrink down, getting smaller. That's why

you see these cracks in the yard. If you have you ever been out in the backyard of a certain kinds of clay soils where when it's really hot and dry, their cracks big enough to lose a small child in. I mean, that's an exaggeration, but you know what I'm talking about. That's a shrunken soil. And what happens when it gets bigger, smaller, bigger, smaller. It cracks sidewalk, It

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So go ahead and give them a call if you see those kinds of symptoms two eight one, two five five forty nine forty nine, two eight one two five five forty nine, forty nine, or go to the website fix myslab dot com Fix myslab dot com. We've talked about a number of things today, and I was mentioning earlier that slowly fertilizers are important for the summertime because

they gradually release the nitrogen over time. So when you apply them now, they're going to feed all the way up into your fall fertilization that three months, some even four months out there are going to do that. That's not the only way that you can fertilize, though. You can take an immediate release fertilizer and you can apply it in small doses over a period of time and achieve a similar result. And an example would be sweet green.

Sweet green is a nitroposs product. It's a molasses based product, and all organic gardeners know that using molasses stimulates by providing carbon stimulates beneficial bacteria and microbes in the soil, and that's important. So sweet grain is going to dissolve away by the way. The product smells wonderful. That's what it's called sweet green, and it dissolves a way into the soil. So what I would do is. I would take a bag of sweet Green, it's eleven percent nitrogen.

I would put about half of it on now, let's say five pounds right now, and then I would wait six to eight weeks and do that again. And by doing that, you take an immediate release fertilizer and you spread it out over time. I mean, if you wanted to,

you could put it in three applications out there. But sweet grain, if you're looking for a natural based product, if you're looking for something that is going to be stimulating to the soil microbes that are in the soil, that's a product that I think you need to take a good look at. And sweet green is you know, it's widely available at a lot of different places. I mean, you're going to find sweet Green at Ace Hardware stores,

for example, Ace Hardware all over the place. It's not hard finding one of the forty Ace Hardware stores here in the area. By the way, when you're in there, if you get your sweet Green, remember that this rain is also bringing on mosquitos, and when you go into Ace, you're going to find everything you need for mosquitos too. Mosquitos it just takes some a number of few days

and they can go. Some types especially, can go through their whole life cycle from an egg to a larva, to a pupa to an adult, and now they're flying around biting you when you're trying to sit outside and enjoy your patio in the evening. Well need mosquito dunks. Those are the things we put out in water to prevent the larvae from growing up. Do you need a mosquito repellent? Do you need a fogging machine? What do

you need for that? They've got it. While you're an ace, Make suring get fire ant bait because fire ants are also popping to the surface now as they build up their soil nests in order to escape soggy wet conditions down low, and you can see where they are with a bait. You don't have to treat mounds. In fact, you shouldn't just treat mounds. You treat all the area

and your properties. You can go a wide area around amound, but those workers are out there feeding, and with a bait, the workers will bring it back, feed at the colony, feeded the queen, and it shuts everything down. They work a little slower than an individual mound treatment, but they work longer than an individual mound treatment and always start with a bait and then go to the individual treatments

for any that might have escaped the bait application. ACE has got both both the both the bait, both the individual mound treatment. They have everything you need. ACE is the place for everything you need to have a beautiful, enjoyable garden, lawn patio area so that you can get outside and enjoy what you've created out in your landscape. Our phone number if you'd like to give us call seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four and we're going to go to the phones now and

talk to Marty. Marty, welcome to Garden Line, and thanks for being such a patient caller. I know we've kind of done the yo yo thing with you, like hang on, go away, hang on, go away.

Speaker 12

Okay, No, it was very interesting. I'm glad you brought him on that. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome to listen to it. No, don't ever apologize. That's okay. Hey, I have a sideyard that I really don't go over very often except to mow, and it's been it's where the swell is.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 12

They built the house twenty three years ago, and the swell where the water runs out to the street has been sinking and it has gotten a lot of Virginia button weed. So celsius is not my answer, and I've sprayed round up around the stepping stones where it comes up, and that kills it, but it also leaves, you know, blank areas where other weeds will grow. So this whole side, I'm thinking that I'd like to build it up with

some type of soil. If you could tell me what type to put in, like an all natural garden where you can grow some flowers to be cut for the house, just seeds and daffodils and things that are pretty and bulbs and just a lot of different plants with a little walkway down the middle. So I'm wondering if you could help me define number two, number one, how to kill the large area button weed, and number two what

type of bulk soil to bring in. If you need to put me on hold for a break, that's okay, okay.

Speaker 4

Well I think we do, and when we come back, I'll give you the answers that you've asked for. Thank you. That's a very good question, folks. Will be right back from break and with Marty's question and the answer to Virginia button weed and proper soils. Welcome back to garden Line. Welcome back. We are going to continue our question with Marty. Marty, you said something about Celsius. Did you say it didn't work? It hasn't worked for you.

Speaker 12

No, it's just too expensive to put over on this side.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 12

I just sent you an email too to show you what I was looking at. If you can pull that.

Speaker 4

Ut, see if I can find that while we're talking here. Yeah, Celsius is the best for killing it, but I unders that the good new products come with big price tags. So you're going to take that area. You want to get rid of all everything in the area so you can put kind of gardening stuff in there, right, Yes, what you're saying, Okay.

Speaker 12

Yes, I want to build it up with soil, Go ahead, Yeah.

Speaker 4

Hoeing digging it out as an option, Spraying it is probably the better option. Using a product that kills everything would probably be the best bet because you can have a mix of the button we eat and I can see the Saint Augustine and other things in that area, and then bringing in the soil after that. You don't want stuff to push through the new soil you put in, so I always like to get a clean slate before I start. A quality saw mix you could use. You've

got a couple of ways that you can go. You can contact, you know a place like let's say a Nature's Way up in the Conro area, and I think that's somewhat close to you. There probably the closest place I would I would send you to. They can deliver so a mixes and just tell them I need a top soil type mix to go in that area. If you want more of a bed mix, you can certainly do that. That's going to have a lot of organic matter in it, like a rose soil would just be

one example of a bad mix. But just know that those are going to sink down over time, just like potting soil in a flower pot each year gets lower and lower as it decomposes away. So you would need to come up a little extra high. But with a top soil it would tend to hold its you know, it would tend to not sink down as much. Either way would be fine to go, so top soil I probably would. How much how high do you want to come up there?

Speaker 12

Well, it's really Louise is. He knows me from yours gone by the ground up. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to want to build it up, and.

Speaker 5

I can't.

Speaker 12

I can do a lot of the building in the middle and over to the fence part, but I don't want to build up too much on the house side because of the wheakholes.

Speaker 4

Yes, but I just but okay, does that area stand in water.

Speaker 10

Well?

Speaker 12

Because yes, it has gotten to that point where it has depressed so much that it is sort of standing in water, which is why the Virginia button we has taken over.

Speaker 4

Okay, so you do have the options. Number one. I don't know where the downspouts are and how that all flow works, but that'd be something to consider. But I have an area in my yard that was kind of load towards the back fence like that, and I put just a treated wood two by ten or something across there and used that as a back bed, and then I filled the whole thing in so that I could raise it up a little bit without piling soil up

against the fence, which is not a good plan. But anyway, that'd be another option, not the only way to do it, for sure.

Speaker 12

Okay, And okay, And then you were going to tell me how to kill the Virginia button weed over a large area. I can't do the I can't do the till Okay.

Speaker 4

I can't do type Life of type products will do it. And I know people have their opinions about rund up or whether they want to use it or not, that's up to you. But Glavas type products kill the grass, They killed the broad leaf weeds. They kill a lot of things. And the roundup, Yeah, that round up is an example. There's there is a cleanup is another brand.

There's a whole bunch of brands of glyphas now. In fact, roundup has actually moved on past glyphasate and most of the round up you see in garden centers now is a different ingredient than glyphasate. Silk all round up, confusing is all get out. But yeah, you'd have to. That's why I say glifeasay because it you know, you would

find it somewhere else. There are other things. I mean, you could spray a broad leaf weed killer in there, and then you could spray a grass killer in there, but then you're putting two products instead of just one. But if you the Virginia button weed isn't going to come back from underground, So I don't know if you have somebody that you know come in there and scrape it all off, that's another option you could do. Saint

Augustine doesn't live underground either. You scrape off the top and it's gone.

Speaker 12

I'm a little old for all that.

Speaker 4

Well that's okay, that's okay, I'll just okay, I'll yeah, you need you need some grandkids that are misbehaving, because you know, when I was growing up, when I misbehaved, I had to go pull weeds in the garden. And I'm not going to say anything other than we had the most weed free garden. And you can figure out.

Speaker 10

Why that might be.

Speaker 4

But anyway, all right, Mark, Okay, Well anyway, thank you, I recommend since you have that relationship with Louis at heirloom. Yeah, heirloom can get you through orange rock and molts. They can get you the top soil. They can get you various kinds of bed mixes too, So no heirloom heirloom soils. Louise is at a John John and Ian Ferguson are at Nature's Way, and I'm telling you both those companies. You say you a good product.

Speaker 12

All right, thank you so much.

Speaker 4

Thanks to the calling you take care of all right. Bye, okay, folks, Well that was a that was a good segment, Madam Montgomery. We weren't able to get to you this segment, but we will put you up first when we come back if you can hang on a little bit longer. Back with you as well. Appreciate you guys listening in today the Garden Line. We're here to help you solve problems.

We're helping you to identify plants. We're helping you diagnose disease and insect issues, whatever kind of whatever you need, We're happy to do that. Try to point you in the right direction because you know, gardening is the best hobby that there is.

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Garden Line. Welcome back. Good to have you back with us. We have got another hour to go here to that and we're happy to take your call if you've got a gardening question at seven one three two one two k t r H. We're gonna just make haste and run straight out to Montgomery, Texas to talk to Matt this hour. Hello Matt, and welcome to garden Line morning.

Speaker 10

Skip.

Speaker 2

How's it going?

Speaker 4

It's going well? How can we help the good?

Speaker 12

I got a.

Speaker 13

Having a tremendous amount of mushrooms in front yard backyards. I know with the increased rain, I mean there there, you could be a causation of it, but just didn't know if there was something in the soil. I mean, I look around. None of my neighbors have have any of the the amount of mushrooms that I'm having. And you know, as I as I as I see them, I'm pulling it up by the roots. But anything else I can be doing, treating it or just just continue to pull them up.

Speaker 11

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, you know, we just say on mushrooms, just ignore because ninety nine point nine percent of them are not a concern. And then the mushroom itself is just the fruiting body. So you know, it's not like you would spray the mushroom or anything. Uh, It's part of nature. And when we go through these periods this last crop is because of all the rain we had and there was a little bit of a dropping temperature from all the cloudy weather and rain. We'll see another big crop

of mushrooms. And we get into fall, get a little cold front in and cools off and get some rain with it. They'll be back. It's just fungi that are growing underground that when they when conditions are right, they send up their fruiting structures, and that's what we see. There's not a good spray for them anyway. Okay, aren't very good.

Speaker 13

We'll keep pulling them up.

Speaker 4

Yeah. What I like to tell people is since we can't do anything about them, get you a golf club and have some fun.

Speaker 2

Well, we pull them up and bring them to the chickens.

Speaker 4

Oh really, chickens eat them. I had never heard that one. That's good to know. I guess they're not boiled all right, man, Thanks Matt. I appreciate you Yanks. Take care. Yeah, you know, the nature is constantly a work. What we see in nature is not even scratching the surface of what's going on. Like you look at the soil and you know, clear

off all the plants. Look at this soil. You say, well, that's dart right that you don't see what's going on there, But what's going on there is a whole nother world of microbes. Do you know that? Okay? Fun fact nerd alert fun fact. If you take a pinch of quality garden soil, you know rich gardens, put a pinch of it, a kidney bean sized pinch in your hand, you have literally hundreds of millions of microbes right there. If you

put a little pile of soil in your palm. Sometimes you see these pictures and somebody's holding a big handful of soil. We'll put a pile half that size in your palm. You have more living things in your hand than there are people in the face of the earth. But that's soakin. For just a minute, soil is alive. There's bacteria. There's a type of bacteria that are that are beneficial to plants. There's bacteria types that fix nitrogen out of the air into a formed plants can use.

There's bacteria that produce antibiotics. There's bacteria that produce and by the way, we have those as products. By the way they're available. Have you ever used an antibiotic cream on your arm? You know the the neomycin, neomix, and polysporin, those those kinds of things. Those ingredients are actually produced by soil bacteria. Now in a pharmaceutical company, they're growing them in a big vat. They're creating them in a big vat. They're not raising a bunch of bugs to

make them. But soil bacteria produce those antibiotics, that kind of antibiotic. Soil bacteria produce insecticides. That's where BT comes from. It's a naturally occurring soil bacteria. That's where the BT for mosquitoes, the BT israeliensis form comes from. That's a soul type of bacteria. They're bacteria that do all kinds of things like that. There are fungi that are constantly going through breaking down stuff no other microbe can break down.

We're talking about bone, we're talking about fingernail, We're talking about growing up against a rock and producing an acid to dissolve the rock and release those minerals. They're fungi that can do that stuff. They're the heavy lifters in the soil. They're just all kinds of beneficial organisms. Anyway, it's alive, so well, it's alive, and it does a lot of things to make itself better and it helps us to decompose organic matter.

Speaker 2

What.

Speaker 4

So, there's a lot of life going on out there in the landscape and we just don't think about it unless you're kind of a nerd about it like I am, and it's something you think about a lot. Uh, there is just a lot going on. That's not even getting into the arthropods that are in the soil and what they do, the earthworms in the soil and what they do.

It's just it's just really really cool stuff. All right. Well, our phone number if you'd like to give us a call, we got some time here seven one three two one two kt RH seven to one three two one two kt r H and give us a call. Be happy to visit with you about the kinds of questions that you might have.

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six sixty three. You are listening to garden Line. Our phone number is seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. Seven one three two one two fifty eight seventy four. I'll be right back. Welcome back, Welcome back to garden Line. Good to have you with us. Hey, if you got a question there we have here. We've got two more segments, three more segments left to go, uh before we shut things down for the weekend until

next weekend on guarden Line. So give us a call at seven one three two one two k t r H. Seven one three two one two k t r H. This is your chance. I uh. We talked about a lot of things today. We've covered everything from lawns to trees to UH. Certainly we'd spent that time talking about generators. And you know how to make a good choice, and you know anything you purchase I don't, I don't care

what it is. You need to do your homework ahead of time, and I highly recommend that whoever you end up purchasing something from, get the facts and it always helps. My way of doing it is always I'll talk to two or three people and I'll hear something from one. Then I'll ask them, well, what do you do about that? Or what do you think about that? And I'll hear their answer, and you know, just get the facts that is important. Caveat emptor anymy know what that means Latin words,

caveat emptor means let the buyer beware. That is a good point on anything from automobiles to you name it that you purchase. Well, I wanted to spend a little bit of time today talking about summer planting. When it gets hot, the enthusiasm for gardening tends to wane. We see it every year and I can see a number of calls that come into guard Line. It varies through the year, but the fact is that summer is a time when there is still plenty that we need to

be outdoing. There's watering specifics, there's fertilizing specifics, there's planting specifics. We have plants that grow in the heat of Southeast Texas, just fine plants that when it comes to gardening, for example, there are a number of greens that I like to grow in my garden that come from areas that are as sultry, hot and humid as Houston typically places like certain parts of Africa or certain parts of maybe India or that region of the world, and you get these

things like Malabar, for example. Our black eyed peas are from that area. They grow through the summer just fine. There are Molechhia is another green that does well in that there's edible perse langes. Anyway, there are plants that can take that. When it comes to flowers, Angelonia loves heat. It just blazes through the heat. I mentioned Scavola earlier

that does well. There are things like the Helianthus calls sun believable, like unbelievable, but was sun at the beginning sun sunbelievable over a thousand blooms during the course of a season on that plant. That just blooms and blooms and blooms and blooms and blooms of blooms and blooms. Got some in my garden. It's doing well. There's pirates pearl that is a white, small, white flower, but the little short, bushy like plant just covers up with those

unbelievable flowers. Excuse me. Pirates pearl flowers. I see all kinds of beneficial insects on these two as well. Zenias do good through the summer heat. Salvias are many Salvias just bloom all the way through summer heat. Salvia is my favorite genus plant of flowering plants. It is because there's so many. They're just so many. But just because it's hot outside and it's probably get a little hotter.

Now that we get this cloud and rain that's moving on opening up the sunshine, it's still time to plant. Have to do when you plant in the summer is remember to pretend that that plant is still in its pot underground. So imagine if you bought less about a gallon plant and you set it in a hole in the ground and covered it up with soil. All the roots would be in that pot still right, and they all they would stay that they couldn't go beyond that.

When you take it out of the pot and plant it the same way, pretend that that pot is still underground. That tells you where to water. You water right at the base in small amounts. Over time, as that thing begins to grow roots out into the soil around it, you're wetting larger areas you always want to wedd a little beyond where the roots are always. But you can keep a plant alive, just like if you set that pot on your patio and went on every day and water did a couple of times. I mean you could.

You can do that. You can still plant. And there are plants that will bloom well in late summer and fall, and you ought to get some of those in. Maybe I'll talk about some of those late summer and fall bloomers here in a little bit. Right now, I'm going to run over the and we're going to talk to Bill and Conroe. Hello, Bill, Welcome to garden Line.

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Good morning, Skip, thanks for taking my call. And I I've taken my backyard. I've killed all of the Sant Augustine and Bermuda mix and all of the other stuff in there. I've just letting it settle and kind of tilling it up and moving and anyway it's ready, getting ready. I probably have to be thinking about waiting till the end of August before I put anything down, just being easier to manage, I think without the heat that I

expect in August. So is there a different variety from Saint Augustine and bermuda that is shorter that I can walk on without hurting it. I'm not thinking of putting green quality, but how about croquet quality.

Speaker 4

Okay, oh boy, that's a good question. Well, first of all, I think your idea to wait until August is not about idea because even though you've sprayed it and killed everything,

you see, the bermuda is not all gone. It'll be sprigs that come back up, and then you'll have to spray them again, and then maybe even a third time, because it's just the nature of the beasts that usually one spraying doesn't kill everything because there's some that hadn't even maybe stuck its head up yet for you to spray.

Speaker 7

So n't gotten the nuts edge is the nuts sedge is definitely coming back.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well, the nuts edge the forget round up on nuts edge. That's not the way I go about I've almost finished a publication that's going on my website about nuts edge, and that's one of the things I'll tell you in there. Uh, manage is a good product. If you can find manage, there is a sedge ender. It's also a good product for nuts edge. But definitely that's gonna take maybe even at least the August, you're gonna

spray it. It's gonna go down, and then you're gonna see it we sprout again and you're gonna spray it and go. So you need to stay with that particular thing to knock out as much of it as you can. But I'll let y'all know when when there's publications up there and you really need to read it. I'd be great anyway. What I would you know you could do as zoisa. There are some soisas. It can be mowed very short as a lawn grass, and they do well here.

There's some type that have a little wider leaf. It's only about a third as wide as Saint Augustine, but it's it's wider than the fine textured zoysias, which have a leaf. It's skinnier someone skinnier than bermuda grass. It's a very narrow little leaf. You can mow it low if you want to mow regularly, can keep it down at a lower rate, and it makes a beautiful lawn or and it would be a good croquetlawn even if

you moted at a higher rate. There are some other good groundcovers that you could use, like uh frog frog fruit would be one, but it's not foot traffic tolerant. So if you walk around a lot you're going to it's not going to do well. So I think you if you want to switch out, switch over to one of the Zoisias palisades. There is an example of one with wider leaves. There are other good ones. Those are a variety of so idier palisades. Zoysia has a wider leaf.

I has developed it in as well as some other southern uh you know, extension services here in the south. It's widely used about the south.

Speaker 7

And you drill these from seed.

Speaker 4

No, you need to have sod and you need to solid sodom don't don't plug them. Their spread rate is slower than Saint Augustine and Bermuda, and so don't plug them. Just solid sod.

Speaker 7

Areas of them, all right, And that Zoysia will take care of, will handle the heat in the sun and all.

Speaker 4

That absolutely does. I've got I've got palisades in my yard and it does very very well. A little bit shade tolerant, not quite as much as Saint Augustine, but it's good. That's pretty good as close. And then there's a fine texture one called xeon ze o n. There's there's a bunch of cultivars of both types of zoisiograss. I'm just giving you a couple that I'm familiar with it. But the fine textured one is just beautiful, just beautiful. Look,

I'm o mind a little bit high. I'm starting to mow it back down lower now, just to experiment and learn. But I'm a little higher and it looks like kind of a little mini meadow out there. So that's kind of cool, is often but but normally though we would we would keep it and maintain it with the regular mowing. That's the way you get density. You start fluctuating and letting it big and cutting it back, you lose density.

Speaker 7

Is it susceptible in a big way? To new to from my neighbors kind of coming into it.

Speaker 4

There is not an available over the counter option for controlling Bermuda grass and other turf grasses like Zoisia or Saint Augustine grass. Uh, they're just not and then they coexist. That's the way it is.

Speaker 7

So you either I guess there's a commercial one, but you can't. You can't buy any Texas for I've seen I forget what it's called. There is a.

Speaker 4

Product, well, there is a there is something that some landscapers can get that they use that helps kill the bermuda out of the Saint Augustine. I don't think it's okay to use in Zoysia. I'd have to check that. But anyway, with that, I don't even want to open up the hopes on that one.

Speaker 7

It's a pea because everybody would love that.

Speaker 4

You got to you got to have a professional that does it. If you bought a bottle of it, if you could find ten neighbors who wanted to do it too, you could put the cost and make it somewhat reasonable. But you see what I'm saying, it's there's I like to just say there's not an option. Although yeah, anyway, yeah, yeah, okay, very good, Thanks skipping, all right, take care of Bill. Good luck with that, and sounds like you're off to a good start with that, making sure you get rid

of all of it before you put more in. You know, one option I didn't think about this to tell Bill, but one option would just be to go to the go to the bermuda grass, to go with the dwarf bermuda. One of the semi dwarfs, not the golf course green type, but something like for a football field or for a golf course fire away. There are those. You just have to permuted, be ready for it to crawl into your flower beds. All right, we're gonna take a little quick

break for the news. Brian in Cyprus. She will be first up when we come back. Well, Frome the garden line. Good to have you back. We got another half hour left today. Looking forward to talking to you about the things that are of interest to you. You know, I was recently in a Wilbird's Unlimited store and I'm always just surprised at how the products that they have and the quality of the products that they have. Now, I've told you before I buy my garden or my garden

my bird seed there from All Birds Unlimited. And I do this for this reason. You don't get a bunch of junk in the bag cheap bird seeds. Got a bunch of red bebes. The birds kick it out, they don't want to eat it. Now, you got a weed growing on the ground underneath it. Wabirds Unlimited, they have what they put in the bag the birds want to eat. Now, maybe if it's you know, sunflower holes are going to

crack that open to get the seed inside. And you can even buy hullless mixes from All Birds where you don't even have that coming out of the feeder. Nesting super Blend one of the best mixes you can buy. They have several different mixes. You go in, you tell them, look, here's the birds I most want to attract. What is the best blend. And what they're going to do is also consider the season that we're in, because the best blend depends partially on the season that we're in. They've

got wonderful feeders. My favorite feeder came from All Birds and it is the squirrel excluding feeder. It is very effective. I took a little video of a scuare. I need to post that to Facebook too, a little video of a squirrel climbing up and they got mad a long time ago because they figured out they couldn't get in it. But every now and then they still climb the pole and you know, give it a try, but it ain't gonna work. It's a great feeder. They have bird houses.

They have you know, like a bird bath. They have all kinds of quality books and the main thing is you walk in there and no matter what you want to ask them, they're going to give you good advice. There's six Wildbirds stores in the Greater Houston area. Go to WBU dot com, forward slash Houston, WBU dot com forward slash Houston, find the wild Birds near you and go visit. Today. Be a good day to do that. You know, Wilbird's unlimited. They just it's just the place

to go. It's where you can trust what you buy and trust what you hear when you walk in the door. Let's go now to the phones. We are going to go to see who's next. Here. We have Brian in Cyprus, Texas. Hello Brian, Hello skip hire you. I'm doing well. Thanks? What's up today? Very good?

Speaker 6

So, my Saint Augustine is still recovering from last summer's damage. And while it's recovering nicely with all of the wet weather that we've been having, unfortunately the broad leaved weaves had really taken hold. And I read on the labels the the post emergent herbicides. You can't really begin to address it because the temperatures are too high, or they're alternatives other than purely just bending down and trying to pull them all.

Speaker 4

Yeah, there is there is primarily one alternative. It's not cheap, but it's a very effective and it can it can be in the lower nineties. And this product is not going to hurt your Saint Augustine what I would do though, even with this product, I'm about to tell you you want to do it early in the morning at the coolest time the day. That way it dries up before the sun comes baking out there. I mean, who knows, it may be a day we're going to go to ninety eight degrees, and so you just want to be

careful with it. But the product is called Celsius, which is a good name because that's like celsius, like the temperature, and it works well. You buy it in small packages and you just use it as efficiently as you can. You got some neighbors that are willing to go in with you on it, that may be another option. But it's very effective even against some of the hard to control stuff like Virginia button weed and dollar weed and whatnot. It's effective against a wide range of things.

Speaker 10

Very good.

Speaker 6

I'll give it a shot, Thank you so much.

Speaker 4

Yeah, just take two check books so you're ready to go when you go to buy. I shouldn't put it that way. It's not that bad. I've purchased small packs myself. But it works well. All right. You take care and thanks thanks Brian for the call. Let's see here. You know that's true, folks. The old stuff that's been around since dirt, those products are not expensive. They've been around,

their mass produced. It's easy to do it when you get something that a company has spent millions upon millions of dollars trying to develop, even more than that, Well, when they finally get into the market and try to sell, they got to recoup that. And so those new specialty products that do things that the old products didn't do, they're going to be more expensive. It's just a nature of business doing that. But I'm telling you some of them have some features that we can't find in other products.

Let's go now to Charlie in Friends would Hello, Charlie, Welcome to garden Line.

Speaker 10

Good morning to you, skip. Thank you for taking my call. My problem is that there was an orchard at the home we bought, and of course lost it in the freeze of a couple of years ago, and it's about one hundred and thirty by forty, I would say rectangular full of weeds. But underneath the weeds all this black cloth that folks would put in to try to retard the weeds in that time. Now the weeds have come through. But I suggest that that's my wife the weed rototillate,

but it's got black paper all underneath. There was too heavy to a lift. So how to what's your best.

Speaker 4

Idea of how to.

Speaker 10

Get rid of all that stuff and prepare it for grass.

Speaker 4

You know, there are certain times in life when I wish I had a time capsule, like back to the future, where I could go back when they're about to put that stuff down and say stop it, don't do that. That's about it. I hate that cloth for the reasons you're describing. You know, rototiller is not gonna pick it up if it's got enough soil on it. You Trying to pull and lift it up is not a practical way to go, and that just creates a problem because that's really what we need to do, is lift it

up and get it all out of there. Y yeah, tiller is just going to be a mess. So there's really not a good solution at this point. Uh That doesn't involve a lot of work, you know, like excavating soil to get down where you can lift that fabric up, and there's roots tangled in it and everything else. So about all you can do is just go over the top of it, uh, you know with your planting.

Speaker 6

Uh.

Speaker 4

And that's not ideal.

Speaker 10

But you just got to suggest putting fresh soil and then then trying to put in our grass.

Speaker 4

Like I heard. Yeah, how deep is how deep below the surface is this fabric?

Speaker 10

Tell me about it? About an answer to.

Speaker 4

Oh, okay, oh no, I wouldn't put the grass on top of that.

Speaker 10

Oh boy, you wouldn't put I'm sorry, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4

Put the grass on top of it.

Speaker 2

Uh huh.

Speaker 4

First of all, my first answer is there's not a good answer, okay, And I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you the answers that are not good answers. I know, to try to pick it up with your hands is difficult. They are different. I've used all kinds of ingenuity to try to deal with stuff like that. I mean, you could you could get dig out some where you could really attach to it, you know, twist attach a rope real tight to it where we'll pull and then use it.

Come along to pull it out. I mean, I don't know how to go about it. I don't know what to tell you. Spading forks, come along, whatever you can do to kind of loosen things. But you just can't put turf grass over it. If unless it is a really cheap product that tears are one that allows roots to readily go right through it. If you put three or four inches of soil on top and plant it,

you might get by with that. That may be okay, Well I tell you I don't like any of these other answers other than removing it in some way, shape or form. Figure not a way to do it.

Speaker 10

Wow, Okay, thank you, old Raggy.

Speaker 4

Did I make your day?

Speaker 7

I'm okay.

Speaker 10

I sank you very much, so appreciate.

Speaker 4

Bottom bottom line. Yeah. Bottom line answer Charlie, I hope you heard is you could try throwing three inches of soil over it and then planting on top of it because you already have an inch under it, just to get a good start there. I think that might work. But removing it and using ingenuity is not a happy answer. But that's that's something else. Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 10

I appreciate thank you sir.

Speaker 4

You bet yeah, you know, I tell you there are situations in gardening where there's not a great solution, just not a great solution. All right, we run a little over here. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back with your calls. Seven seventy four. Welcome back to the garden Line. Good to heavy with us. We're in our last segment of the day. We'll be back next Saturday and Sunday from six am to ten am.

If you have friends and neighbors that haven't listened to garden Line, tell them about it so they can tune in. You know, I like to listen to KTRH using my phone app, the iHeartMedia app, and you can just put in your pocket and care around while you're doing gardening work or wherever you're going. You can have it with you. If you're not near a radio, you can have it that way. It works really really well. And thank you for being a listener too. By the way, hey, I

wanted to talk a little bit about Nelson Watergarden. I've mentioned them many times in the past and talked about what an outstanding nursery. There are lots of plants, a great selection By the way, they got a really good sale on fruit trees and on citrus trees right now, So if you've been thinking about getting one, now's the time to get the best dear you're going to get. It's a really good sale that they have going on.

But you know, they specialize in water gardens. That is kind of their forte that's what they started with, and they're nationally known for. And when you go to Neilson Water Gardens and Nursery, you are going to find a unbelievable supply of everything related to water. If you will, for example, you want a disappearing fountain. I think those are one of the coolest things that ever was, and Nelson invented that. You see these beautiful pottery urns, glazed

pottery with water coming at the top. The sound of water. You need the sound of water in your backyard. We put a little multi tiered fountain in in our yard and I just like to sit. Is so relaxing. It is like therapy out there. To sit and enjoy the sound of water, especially on a hot summer day, brings in birds too, and beneficial insects a supply of water

as well. Many of them do do you want a water garden, you know with lily pads or other water plants with koi or goldfish or other fish like that, Nelson Water Garden and Nursery is the place to go. Here's the number two eight, one, three, nine to one forty seven sixty nine or goat to water Nelsonwatergardens dot com. Nelson Watergardens dot com. They're just north of I ten on Katie Fort Ben Road out in Katie. Think of it as your West Houston destination garden center. That's Nelson

Water Gardens. And while you're out there, by the way, they have a lot of good products too. They have a good selection. For example, Microlife. I know you have heard of Microlife unless you've been living under a rock. Microlife has all the granular fertilizers you know, for your lawn, for your soil, for your plants that we've talked about. I just want to tell you a little bit about some of their liquid fertilizers. One of the ones that

I use the most is Microlife Biomatrix. It's an orange label, liquid comes in a gallon, comes into quurt It's a seven to one three ratio fertilizer. I have good boost and nitrogen. I use it on houseplants because that foliage that's leafy, green growing, and you need a good nitrogen boost for that. It's excellent for that. I've had excellent results. You can put a in your garden. You can use it watering plants in. As a matter of fact, if you were going to water plants in, you might want

to try Microlife Maximum Blooms. That's a pink or reddish label that does very very well, Microlife Maximum Bloom. If you want to boost for plants. I bet you never heard of this product, Microlife Soil and Plant Energy. Microlife Soil and Plant Energy is a superb combination of humic acid and molasses. Molasses is like rocket fuel for beneficial soil microbes. You're going to boost the energy and the

supply by putting that carbon in the soil. With Microlife Soil and Plant Energy and also that humic acid benefiting your soil. You know, you make your soil better, you make your plants better. And Microlife Soil and Plant Energy is an outstanding liquid. You can mix it in water, you can spray it. It's not going to burn plant. You can spray it on the foliage, plant it's not going to burn them. It does very very well. I would recommend it, especially as something that you apply to

your soil around your plants from microlife. Well, let's see here, what are we looking at. We might have time for a real quick call if someone wants to call in. Got a few minutes left before we put this one in the books. I appreciate you listening to Guardland. We've talked about a lot of different things today, and I just want to really urge you to not let summer stop you from being a gardener. The early morning hours are cool, you can get out, you can get some

stuff done. It just it doesn't take a lot of work to keep things going out in the yard, not in the garden. And now with plant sales going on all over the place, this is a great time to put some plants in. I know we talk about spring planting and winter planting and fall, which is the best planning season of the year, But what about putting some color in for the next few months. You know, September

is a summer month, right. If you've been in Texas more than one summer, you know September is a summer month here. So if you put something in. Now, you got August, you got September, you got October, sometime into November before we really get some cooler weather arriving where we would start looking at cool season color. Why not establish some colorful foliage like colius, like copper plant, like

persian shield, beautiful silvery purple color. Oh, it's gorgeous, like some of the colorful cannas, the phasion or the tropicana. Why not do some color, or why not do some flowers like angelonia, like marigoles. You put maragoles in still, you know, I like to plant my fall maragoles in late summer, and the spider maight population starts to decline as we go into the fall season, and they just glow in the cooler fall temperatures that I have to

fight against the fire ants that are out there. Well my fire ants, Okay, spider mites is what I was trying to say.

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Well, let's see here, let's see a call coming in. We're gonna try to do a real quick answer here for them. If we can get them back here on the line, be a fast one. But summer is a season where we can still plant and there's a lot of heat tolerate. You go to these outstanding garden centers, them Omipop, the independent nurseries that we talk about on garden Line. You go out there and talk to them and say, what can I plant now that'll give me

three months of color. There's no sense in summer being a sea of green, and drive around town look at landscapes. It's a sea of green, green grass, green groundcovers, green shrubs, green trees, green vines. There's nothing wrong with green. Green isn't the only color. It's not the only color. All right, Well, I hear the music. I'm just gonna keep talking about it. Actually, I want to tell you about something else. Coming up is an event that you need to know about. It's

called OBA Palooza. I love that name. Oba O HbA. That's the organic horticulture if it's alliance. It's an organic group here in Houston, made up of commercial companies, made up of individuals interested in organic gardening, made up of educators. I love to go to OBA events. They are always always outstanding. I can promise you top notch speakers this event. I take too long to name all the speakers there. They're gonna have two headliners. They're gonna have three concurrent

sessions going on. You can to pick where you want to go Saturday August tenth. Saturday August tenth, that's coming up at the Greater at the United Wates Greater Houston, My Wildwide. You go from eight am. They put thirty three m Go to oba ohbaonline dot org to get your tickets

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