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Overachievers: Plants that do More

Feb 08, 202545 minSeason 3Ep. 127
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We're sharing our list of overachievers - plants with maximum beauty and performance but minimal maintenance and fussing. Join us for ideas for your spring planting list!

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Speaker 1

Broadcasting from Studio A. Here at proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella me, Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacy, I love today's topic over achievers. Overachievers are somebody who achieves success over and above the standard of the expected level. It might not surprise you, but my entire life, I've

always been told I'm too driven, move too fast. My teachers and the police used to tell me to slow down. Now my doctor's telling me to slow down.

Speaker 2

You know, being an overachiever can definitely be a good thing. But you know, with people, you need to know when to stop and reserve your energy for yourself. But with plants, there's really no such restrictions.

Speaker 1

There you go, and we're going to talk about overachieving plants today. I love this topic because, you know, walking through the garden center, there's a number of plants that come to mind for me where if someone did not know their stories, and Stacy, you're a great storyteller of plants in plants on trial, and when people learn those stories of plants, then they developed this relationship with them

and understand their potential in the garden center. For example, in spring, if you walk by a gampfrina, one of my favorite annuals, people are apt to walk right past it because it looks green, doesn't look all that exciting in many cases compared to the other annuals that are out there, So you have to learn their stories. And of course, as people, we also tend to gravitate towards

what is familiar. Now, my definition of plants that are overachievers, my personal definition is number one, the plant surprises you in its development from its original condition. So you could say elephant ear kalladiums I mentioned, gampfrin or scavola, maybe something as simple as a sunflower seed, a castor bean plant, or a hyacinth bean seed, maybe Alium gigantium, but something like that that surprises you in how it develops beyond

its original condition. Number two, they're flourished, seems to come easy to them, in other words, somewhat easy to grow. And number three, they give more than just a week or two of interest. And of course you could argue that fact with many annuals which tend to be over achievers. Overachievers for a while and then of course burnout as we get.

Speaker 2

To fall happens way too often with you know, some annuals, not all annuals. But you know, the this concept of an overachiever, I mean, we have we could fill ours talking about the plants that we feel are overachievers. But you know, going back to our talk about garden nostalgia,

this concept of overachiever plants is actually relatively new. You know, for a long time, people needed to work really hard to get a good performance from the plants in their garden, whereas nowadays, you know, if because not just because of plant breeding, but also because there are so many more options on the market, you know, with container growing that opened up so many more plants at the garden center.

So whether you have an overachiever through virtue of plant breeding that it doesn't need dead heading, it's you know, genetically developed to just blue and blue and bloom like most preven Veinnurse annuals, or just because plants like my beloved Sylphium perfoliatum is just now more widely available, you know, whereas forty years ago, you know, you would have had to probably dig sylphium out of some swamp somewhere if you want it in your garden, and that wouldn't have been a good thing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, if you had it in your yard, it would stick out because other people didn't have it. But now more and more people get to enjoy that specific overachiever. Let me kick off the topic with a limb a rick. I've caught a bad case of spring fever, ready to plant. I'm an eager beaver with winter. Instead of being dejected, my plans are progressing better than expected. You could say I'm an over achiever with plants. I have a natural

sense a perceiver. They give happiness and I'm the receiver instead of doing absolutely zero, They've made me a neighborhood hero. I love a plant that's an overachiever.

Speaker 2

You know what? That reminded me of another important aspect of a plant being an overachiever. That's a great limock by the way, thank you, But to me, another characteristic is what does the plant do for the wildlife? And you know, insects, birds, butterflies, all of this kind of thing, and that you know, there should be something an overachiever does in addition, So yes, we are the receiver when we have an overachieving plant. Because we get to enjoy

how beautiful it is. And everyone thinks that were some sort of superstar gardener, when the fact is all we did was pick the right plants and plant them in the right place. It really is that simple. Revealing a big secret here apparently. But you know, also there are other people, other organisms around that are recipients of our decisions to garden. And maybe that's a neighbor, maybe that is wildlife. But you know, overachieving plants benefit more than just us.

Speaker 1

I love the road you're going down there, and we're going to add that to the overachieving description of plants because as opposed to the plant having its time in the sun and receiving plot, it's on you know, it's robust growth and its beauty. Is it giving back? Yeah, and that's a great There's many ways to look at that.

Speaker 2

You know, it could be something like, of course, a vegetable garden you're getting produced. It could be cut flowers, it could be multiple seasons of interest. But you know, an overachiever has to do perform highly but also give you a little bit.

Speaker 1

More, give something back. I love that, you know a plant that I consider an overachiever and I don't want to, you know, sound like a broken record here, because you know how much I love ornamental grasses. But something like graceful grass is skyrocket. It's a fountain grass penacetum. The plumes are sterile so it doesn't become invasive. But boy does it work for you provide color. And yes, I saw this past fall, the birds all over the inflorescence.

Speaker 2

You know, I had a strong feeling that ornamental grasses would come up in the Overachievers show, not just because I know how much you like them, but because they are a perfect example. There are few other plants, well, actually there's kind of a lot, but that require so little. I mean, once you plant that ornamental grass, pretty much the only thing you need to do is cut it back in spring. Yeah, and you know it doesn't need water, it doesn't need any fussing. You can divide it if

you want. Wouldn't recommend it. Not really a fun job, So plant those properly and let it let them be. But yeah, I mean that's exactly what we're talking about. All that impact, those big robust presents, the sound, It provides habitat for all sorts of things. It provides nesting material for birds and you don't lift a finger and you look like a garden rock star. I love that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And that's my direction here because you look at for example, panicum switch grass, a North American native plant, a prairie grass so to speak. You wontn't expect much. It's just grass, okay, But you take cultivars like totem Pole or Niagara Falls or shy in Sky. It's an overachiever because it delivers, in my opinion, far more than what you expected.

Speaker 2

Definitely, especially if you're buying just a little one gallon plant in spring. You you're going to need to have a little faith. But you know that's where shows like Gardening simplified the Internet, all of these places where you

can do your research and find out. So you are you know, more trust trusting in that plant when you see it maybe looking you know, all green like a gumfrina, or a little bit small and wimpy like a panicum because it's a warm season grass and when you're shopping in the garden center hasn't really had a chance to do its thing yet exactly.

Speaker 1

And then of course in the mixed Stacey, we've got to talk about, well, there are you know, in life, there are early bloomers and there are late bloomers. Okay, But in again, in the garden industry today, there are many wonderful cultivars that I'm you would classify as rebloomers. Yes, I can consider the rebloomers also as overachieved.

Speaker 2

I think reblooming is a classic example of what it means to be an overachiever. And you know, it's not all that uncommon in nature. It's just that what plant breeders have done is identified individual plants that have some capacity for rebloom and then worked with that to bring more of those genes out. And yeah, why do people mostly start gardening flowers? Everyone wants more flowers. You get a reblooming shrub like bloomerang Wilac or double play Doozy spireea, it's an overachiever.

Speaker 1

Absolutely, Or the plants that basically are surprised. You know, you buy a little pugster bud lea in the garden center and then by the time you get to August, little plant, the size of those blooms are unreal. It causes me to believe the plants an overachiever.

Speaker 2

You know what, And that reminds me of other bulbs are good overachievers too, right, because by the time they come out in spring, you very well may have forgotten that you planted that, And then all of the sudden, just when you need at most amazing flowers pretty much zero care, and you feel real good about having planted them, especially for their costs, because you can't get plants much lower cost than a bulb.

Speaker 1

Well, we're going to raise the bar on today's show, and let's see how Stacey ties this all together and plants on trial. That's coming up next here on the Gardening Simplified Show.

Speaker 2

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today is overachievers. And recently, Rick and I did something a little bit more than just your standard edition of the Gardening Simplified Show. We went out and filmed a winter.

Speaker 1

Garden tour in the dead of winter.

Speaker 2

In the dead of winter. Now the snow was still present. It was, you know, a little bit warmer than it had been the week we got all that snow where we had you know, single digit temperatures, but still a little too snowy trapes all over the garden like we might have hoped to have done. But it's still a good garden tour. You can kind of get a sense of some cool stuff going on in the garden right now, and you know, maybe a little bit of a cure

for cabin fever. So please do check us out on YouTube that is where the garden tour is posted, and check out what's what's kicking in the trail gardens in February.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, we're practicing what we preach, right, that's great, three hundred and sixty five days out of.

Speaker 2

The year exactly. So since we're talking overachievers, and you know, it's hard for me, of course, knowing you know pretty well almost all of the three hundred and thirty some proven winters color choice shrubs, hard for me to pick just one. So I wanted to do something a little bit different for plants on Trial. Today, we're going to do plants on trial Overachievers, Speed round fun and so I'm going to name a category, and Rick and I are going to tell you what our top choice for

an overachiever is in each of these categories. So you can make a full plant list. If you want a lot of overachieving flowering shrubs and evergreens in your garden, this is going to be it. So we're kicking it off overachiever foliage.

Speaker 1

Shrub Midnight Sun with you, Youla.

Speaker 2

Oh that's mine too, Hey, I mean sure, So when both of us pick one, you know it has to be good, right it is and I do. Obviously I can't do this for every single plant because we only have ten minutes on radio. But Midnight Sun is a newer Whygela. And of course most people think of why Gila as flowering plants, which they are. They have lovely flowers in spring and attract butterflies or butterflies and hummingbirds,

so that's really cool. But Midnight Sun is primarily a foliage wigela, and when you see it in spring, this is one of those plants you need to have a little faith in, kind of just like a dwarf green whitella with pink flowers, and you're like, okay, that's cool. You see the picture on the tag, it shows it all colorful. You think, okay, well maybe that's in fall. But no, what happens with this waigela is that as summer develops and goes on, it turns all sorts of colors.

You don't have to wait until fall. The warmer it gets, the more color you see on this plant. And I know you fell in love seeing it here around the studio.

Speaker 1

That's around the studio at the garden center. Love it.

Speaker 2

It is such an amazing foliage plant. And it's nice and small, so anyone has a room for it. That's Midnight sun Wijella overachiever flowering shrub.

Speaker 1

For many reasons, I tea fizzy Miizzy.

Speaker 2

Ooh, that's an interesting trip now. I think that flowers, fragrant flowers are always a good overachiever aspect, and that is a plant with lots of multiple seasons of interest. Very cool plant and very different look. My overachiever flowering shrub is double play doozy because I have to say that although I could have said steady Eddie viburnum in my time in the industry. I don't think that any two flowering shrubs can compare to double Play Doozy and

Steady Eddie Viburnum for their sheer ability to rebloom. You know some reblooming shrubs they amazing in spring and then you just kind of get a little bit of flowers later in the season. These two plants rebloom almost to the up to the level of their first bloom. Both of them come from doctor Tom Rainey at North Carolina State University, a truly innovative plant breeder. So if you are looking for flowering shrubs that truly do flower, you don't have to do much and you're going to get

more flowers. I cannot recommend much better than those two, especially so overachieving Hydrangea. What's your choice?

Speaker 1

Both you and Adriana caused me to fall in love with this plant as we walk through the garden. Little lime Punch panicle great choice.

Speaker 2

I was definitely torn between Little Lime Punch myself and the one that I picked, which is Let's Dance Skyview Hydrangea. And the reason that I picked Let's Dance, I mean little Lime Punch is a panicle Hydrangea, so very easy to grow, very easy, very reliable, hardy, heat tolerant. People are somewhat familiar with that with those types of hydrangeas, but with hydrange of Macrophilla, the big leaf hydrangeas, with the blue or pink or purple flowers. We all know

people have had so much disappointment with conventional varieties. Let's dance sky View Hydrangea is probably one of the first, along with Let's stance, can do big leaf ree blooming hydrangeas that won't disappoint you. We're looking. We've developed, you know, increased bud hardiness so they're less likely to get cold

damaged in winter. Amazing color and the ability to bloom all the way up and down the stem so that if some well intentioned but wrong person cuts it back or it gets damaged by deer or gets winter cold damage, you still have flower buds at the base to get bloom. So it's really one of the very first reblooming big leaf hydranges that won't disappoint you. Overachieving rose so when it was tough.

Speaker 1

There's so many great roses. But I'm gonna say, at last rose.

Speaker 2

All right, at last bi too. Yeah, I mean, the truth is that with all of the proven winners color trace roses, we are looking for overachieving. I mean, because if you just take regular roses as a baseline, they've already got fabulous flowers, most of them have great fragrance, so we were already looking for plants that do more than that standard. So pretty much all of our roses are overachievers. You can take your pick for color application, but I did pick it last as well because people

love it. It's a good size, super healthy, clean foliage, beautiful fragrant flowers, and just a stunning easy to grow roses.

Speaker 1

And like any overachiever, it rose to the os.

Speaker 2

It's sure did all right. Overachieving native shrub.

Speaker 1

This was easy for me. Durvilla Kodiak orange.

Speaker 2

Oh, you know, I'm not surprised you picked a durvilla. De Villa's are great, and we do have so many amazing durvillas. I was tempted to include a Durvilla here and there, but I ended up going with a plant that is near and dear to my heart in my garden, and that is Gatsby pink oak leaf hydrange.

Speaker 1

I can see why.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean a couple of things about that plant that I love, amazing fall color. It's also a reblooming oak leaf hydrangeas, So again this isn't going to be one of those that goes back to that kind of early summer bloom. But they continue to put out fresh flowers through the season and they turn pink when they you know, as they age, so you get a lot

of color, a lot of flowers. Pollinators love it, and then you get the fall color, beautiful peeling cinnamon bark in the winter, and of course with the kodiak or villas, you get amazing foliage that you really don't have to lift a finger to enjoy.

Speaker 1

Gorgeously.

Speaker 2

They can take pretty much whatever you throw at them. Overachieving heat tolerantce shrub for our warm climate, peeps.

Speaker 1

Sunny Boulevard, Saint John's hypeer.

Speaker 2

All right, that is a great plant. I love its nice rounded habit. I pick jazz Hands Bowl, Laura petalum and Laura Petulum. Of course, anyone from the South can tell you it's as ubiquitous as something like, you know, Barberry is up here and they love it. But I love jazz Hands Bold because everything about it is bigger, and I love big plants, the foliage is bigger, the flowers are bigger, and these actually do keep their foliage color through the season, so overachieving in that way as well.

But again only hardy to about us zone eight, so that one is especially for you all in warm climates. Overachieving hardy shrub or cold tolerance.

Speaker 1

Shrub hardiness easy for me, tough stuff, top fun reblooming mountain hydrat.

Speaker 2

Oh, that's such a good choice. That's not where my brain went at all with this one, but that is an excellent pick. I picked ginger wine nine bark because you know, nine barks are very much like your durvilla as a choice, great foliage color, easy to grow, really don't require any effort. But some older varieties of colorful

Physocarpus or nine bark do you get powdery mildew. This one is very very powdery mildy resistance, and I can attest to that because I do abuse it in my garden, not getting a lot of water space closely, and it does not get powdery mildew. So a really beautiful plant, but hardy down to USC zone three and only heat tolerant through about USDA zone seven. Overachieving shrub with berries.

Speaker 1

If you walk by it in the garden center and spring, you might just walk right past it. But pearl glam caliicarpa.

Speaker 2

Ooh, that is such a good choice. I love that plant. So people know calicarpa, they know those amazing purple berries if they've seen them. And what pearlglam adds into it is beautiful, dark, purply black foliage for just an amazing look.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 2

I picked proudberry simp carpus for this one myself, because that's a plant that I've added to my garden within the last two or three years. I always liked it, but you know, you know how it is, you got to grow it to know it. Once it was in my garden, fell in love just that bright pink berry that just kept getting brighter and brighter as fall went on. Seeing it right out my kitchen window made me smile every time overachieving fall foliage.

Speaker 1

Shrub easy for me. Legend of the fall Father you.

Speaker 2

Ooh, that was a good choice. I was definitely split on the father Gillas, such a beautiful plant native. I ended up going with brandywine viburnum for myself, also a negative shrub, but I picked brandywine over the father gilla, even though it does have fabulous fall color because with the brandywine you get the berries on top of that, and the contrast between the super colorful berries and the super colorful foliage can't beat that. All right, we have time for one more overachieving evergreen.

Speaker 1

We're talking overachievers. It's a tie for me between tater tot and full speed a hedge arbor ice.

Speaker 2

So you're going with a small and a tall choice small and well, everybody does love tater Tot for the name and its diminutive stature. My choice is peasley pop Lukothowe. So I went with a broad leaf evergreen here, and that is a plant that you will be able to see in our garden tour on YouTube, see what it looks like in the middle of winter, and see one of the reasons why I feel like it is an over achiever. So wow, that was a lot. If you've missed any of those plants, they're going to be on

our show notes at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. And that's our little quick list of overachieving shrubs that you can use to make better decisions in your landscape this season. We're going to take a little bit of a break. When we come back, we're going to be opening up the garden mail bags of stay tunes. At Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs, we know that a better landscape starts

with a better shrub. Our team of experts tests and evaluates all of our flowering shrubs in evergreens for eight to ten years to ensure they outperform what's already on the market. For easycare, reliable, beautiful shrubs to accentuate your home and express your personal style, look for Proven Winners Shrubs in the distinct white container at your local garden center, or learn more at Proven Winners color Choice dot com.

Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. And you know, one of the ways that we're simplifying gardening for you today is telling you are overachieving plants, Plants that don't require very much but do a whole whole lot. And you know that can mean a whole lot of different things. It can mean more flowers, that can mean better foliage color. It can mean reblooming, attracting

all sorts of pollinators. And you know, in our illustrious careers here, we've had the good fortune to come across a lot of different overachieving plants, and so that's what we are sharing with you today. If you missed anything, you can catch us on YouTube on your favorite podcast platform, or of course, we'll also put some stuff in the show notes at Gardening Simplified on air dot com. And while you are at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com, you

can also write us with your gardening questions. I know it's it's still early, but you know, some of us start itching to get out there and maybe remember questions that have come up over the season, or have questions about what's to come. So don't hesitate to reach out, and we would be happy to help. We have a question that I think is a good one that a lot of people struggle with, especially if they don't really

consider themselves much of a gardener. Sylvia writes that she is hosting her daughter's wedding in June at her home in Virginia, Zone seven B. She says she's not a gardener, but would love to add some color and festivity with foolproof annuals that are vigorous bloomers. They only need to look great on that one day. Well, we will give you overachievers that will look great beyond that one day.

And she wants any suggestions for white or pale, understated color annual flowers, and she's going to put them into some large planters.

Speaker 1

So well, I have an idea for Sylvia. I hosted a backyard wedding in my backyard for my daughter Stacy, and her wedding also was in the month of June. So I went to the garden center and I purchased diamond frost Euphorbia.

Speaker 2

That was definitely on my list to recommend.

Speaker 1

Yep, exactly easy to grow. Sylvia mentions here, she's not a gardener, that's fine, this plant is fool proof. I planted them up into eight inch and ten inch clay pots. Claypots are relatively inexpensive, and essentially grew them on, watching for frost early, but grew them on and then use them in the center of the tables out in the backyard. They were gorgeous by June, beautiful, tiny little white flowers,

hundreds of them. And then the cool thing was it really wasn't much of an investment for me, So after the wedding I could have people just take them home with them. So diamond frost Euphorbia is one suggestion. The other that I have would be the proven Winner's super Beinas. Get a white Superbina and I think you're going to be happy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there are the has come in so many different colors. So you know, I was thinking a lot when I was thinking about Sylvia's question, a lot about the timing, because early June, even though you're in Virginia, which is obviously much warmer than us here in Michigan, it's kind of a little bit of a funny time because you

haven't really accumulated enough heat. For certain annuals that thrive in the heat, like Selvy or something, it's really get going because it's still a little bit early, and you know, if you pick something that is too much of a cool season annual, it's starting to get a little too

warm for them. So my recommendation for you, Sylvia, I know you said you're not really a gardener, but if you can find, you know, kind of a smaller garden center near you, I would talk to the owner and ask them or talk to, you know, the purchasing person and see if they can order some stuff in for you about three two to three weeks before the wedding, and if you're getting it fresh from the grower, that

means it's been amply fertilized. You know, some annuals are going to be a little bit on the smaller side, but if you're getting them fresh, then they're going to be ready for sale. That two week window, you know, you're not really gonna have to worry too much about

continuing to fertilize them. They'll kind of again be riding the high of what they were getting at the grower, and that way you don't have to stress over what the plants are looking like because you're just kind of not quite all the way to summer, but not quite all the way past spring, even in Virginia. But I would also say definitely go to the proven Winner's website. You can search by plant type annual. You can search

by color. I put in white just to kind of see what they had, and the great thing is that they do include things that just have some white in them. You can also search for pink, purple and look for those paler you know, pinks and lavenders, and you could make a list of stuff that you want. The other thing you can do if you're able to find a

garden center who will work with you. And again, if you stick to those smaller places, you might find someone who you can talk to and just order stuff in for you and just tell them you want a bunch of white flowers, you know. But I do think diamond frost is a great choice. I think super venas are all to a great choice. They do tend to appreciate a little bit more heat, so you're gonna want to make sure they look good when you put them in because they're not really going to get a chance to grow.

But there are just so so many choices, and I think, you know, calculating back even in Virginia, I'll bet that Memorial Day weekend is still a pretty hop in garden center weekend. So they should have tons and tons of fresh material that would put you right in that two week window. So if you make a point of going shopping Memorial Day weekend, I think anything that you see then is probably going to look just as good then is just as good for your wedding as it does

at the garden center. And don't forget to look up in the garden center hanging baskets. Rick loves to take hanging baskets and put them in containers. A great way to get a ton of interest from just one single planting. Look at the patio containers, scour the garden center, don't just look at the little four inch stuff.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I agree with your Stacey. Throughout the years in the garden center in June, you have lot of weddings, you have graduations, and many people would purchase hanging baskets which are lush by that time and take the hangars off them and use them as potted plants. Supertuna Mini Vista white is also a fabulous choice.

Speaker 2

Any of the supertunias should be a great choice and would look absolutely spectacular at that time of year. So, as you can see, we have a lot of suggestions. So if you think about it and the fun of day, send us the pictures of what you do. We would love to share those with our listeners. So we have a question from Mary Lou. She says, I have an area my landscape where my plants are struggling. I've added mulch over the years, but the soil remains mostly clay

below the surface. I'm considering heading several inches of good soil and mult to the top. And I'm wondering if this will smother the perennials. How much is too much? Thanks for all the gardening advice that you give.

Speaker 1

What do you think don't add on to the top.

Speaker 2

Don't do it?

Speaker 1

My opinion, I agree do it. If we're talking already here about adding more culture over the years and clay soil, you're going to create problems. Mulch needs to be stirred. But in addition to that, if it starts to build on itself, you're going to create problems for those plants, especially in a clay soil.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so you know basically what would happen, So you can't just PLoP it on top, because what happens then is that you have two different layers with totally different porosity or different levels of air space in between the particles. Whether that particle is topsoil or whether it's mulch, or whether it's your clay and the mulch and the top soil, they have high porosity, they have a lot of space

in between their particles. Clay has very little space. So what that means is those top layers can hold a ton of water and once gravity starts to take its toll, and that water tries to drain down. It's like hitting a wall. Basically, all those all that airspace that's now filled with water just cannot drain and so you end up with poor drainage. You need to break that surfa his tension. You certainly, if you already have perennials in there, you can't obviously just you know, dig it in, but

you can scratch up the mulch. You can sprinkle in some composts. I would do composts probably rather than top soil, because composts will actually improve the texture of the clay soil, and just try to do it kind of around your perennials rather than over them. Definitely try not to cover them. And I would say how much is too much? I would do no more than two to three inches of material.

Speaker 1

That was a perfect description of the issues Stacey, and I have nothing to add except an exclamation point, and that is aeration. The plants are struggling. In my opinion, aeration.

Speaker 2

Is yeah, yeah, sometimes you need to get the because roots need air. People think that they just need water, but they do actually need air.

Speaker 1

Kate writes to us these berry poppins hollies were planted three years ago, and this year I was the first year they were loaded with berries, so I was so thrilled. But then I saw the leaves turn kind of a grayish on some branches and then blacken, and some of the berries turn brown. This past year I slacked on the soil acid of fire, so I'm determined to correct that. But I'm not sure if something else is going on. I'm stumped.

Speaker 2

Right, So, Kate, it was not the soil acidifier, don't worry about that if you know. We actually in the last episode we talked a bit about soil pH and how that impacts plants. But usually what you're going to see if pH is an issue is the foliage looks sickly. You're not really it's not really going to impact the berries because you know they've already been set. I think that what you're seeing, Kate did send some pictures is

just normal aging of the berries. Because the winterberry hollies, as they undergo multiple freezing thaw cycles, they just start to kind of go brown. That don't all keep that red bright red color all through the winter. And if you were to go hiking someplace where there are wild winterberry hollies growing, which is pretty abundant here in Michigan, and I'm assuming throughout the Midwest you're gonna see the same thing. So I even though it is a bit unsightly,

it's not really a cause for concern. This is pretty normal for the plants to do that, especially in winter again, multiple freeze and thaw cycles. It just kind of makes them a little bit mushy. You know, if they didn't naturally kind of go brown or get eaten, they'd come into spring red and they don't. Sure, so not really a huge cause for concern. Kate. If you feel they do, you need soilist at a fire, go ahead and do that this spring. But it probably won't impact those berries

at all. But enjoy your berry poppins, winterbury holly another overachiever. We're gonna take a little break. When we come back, we're gonna be talking more over achieving plants, so please stay tuned. Thanks for listening to the Gardening Simplified Podcast, brought to you by Proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs, our award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens, a trialed and tested by experts with your success in mind. Learn more at Proven winners Color Choice dot.

Speaker 1

Com Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show for our branching news segment Overachievers two point zero and Stacy. We didn't get to overachieving Winter interest. And by the way, remember the old horticultural joke about being voted most likely to recede by your class or something like that. Overachieving winter interest. I'm really curious what plant you picked?

Speaker 2

The plant that I picked for overachieving Winter Interest. It was a toss up between Arctic fire red red twig dogwood and Arctic fire yellow red twig dogwood, because I do love them both. You know, the red red twig dogwood pretty ubiquitous, but it's one of those plants that, again it requires so little and when it's properly cited in a way where it pops in the landscape, you

are just so grateful for that bright, cheerful color. And they're super low maintenance and you know, usually inexpensive, so endurable. There do you're resistant, They can grow in sun or shade. They're just a versatile, great plant.

Speaker 1

What did you have, great choice? I picked black hat rhododendron. I just find it interesting in the landscape in winter the way the leaves curl up when it gets super cold, the buds which show us the promise of spring. That plant, in my opinion, overperformed in my landscape and is an overachiever.

Speaker 2

What about over achieving trees? You got one handy for me.

Speaker 1

It's got to be juneberry.

Speaker 2

Ah, it's so true. Such a great plant also known as amlankir or service berry or saskatoon. One of those plants with lots and lots of common names. But I agree that is one of those plants that it's just beautiful in every season. It has edible fruits. I mean I love them as well. Of course, it would be tempting to say Temple of Bloom, and that is one of the plants that I chose for my own landscape.

But if I didn't have dear, I would say my dream overachiever is a nice crabapple with white flowers and big fruits. Love crab apples, just can't beat them.

Speaker 1

Beautiful. You know. Another overachiever on my list, Stacey would have to be again thinking about where I came from and years ago in the garden center to now, and that is the new cultivars of clematis. Something like sweet summer love. I look at a plant like that as an over achiever. And then of course when we get into things like perennials or bulbs, eucumus, pineapple lily, crowning glory. Wow. And then of course this year there's touch of blush,

false sunflower, Heliopsis, the uskin sun or Tuscan gold. I find those to be over achievers.

Speaker 2

They really are. I mean, those things you can't stop them from blooming. They just go and go and go and go. And you know, a lot of people I think who have grown perennials and flowers have had issues with aphids. You know, certain older varieties, they just get covered with aphids in summer. It's kind of gross. I have never had that issue with Tuscan son.

Speaker 1

Same here. Yeah, that's great, Hugh Kuras. Of course, there are so many different cultivars, varieties, et cetera, et cetera. But the Dolce apple twist is one I love because of the leaf color changes throughout the season. So I find that one is an overachiever. Also, Pyromania Nipofia love those, Yeah, I love those great varieties that are available. Stacy. I would think when it comes to perennials. You would probably have summerrific rose mallow on your list or.

Speaker 2

Not, you know, I would. I want to pre where I go into that. I want to briefly go back to your hugra thing. Another interesting thing about hugro Of course everyone thinks of them as foliage plants, but a lot of them, especially the newer varieties, have really interesting flowers as well. And I had always been told that hukara attract hummingbirds, and I was like, whatever, They're so close to the ground, they got those tiny little flowers, And then I saw it for myself, and they actually do.

So if you have, especially the red flowered hugras, they will attract hummingbirds. And that is a great overachiever quality for me. But you know what you said at the beginning of the show about an overachiever is a plant that goes from you know, kind of extremely humble beginnings to maybe not so humble and at the end of the season. And yeah, I think most perennials are like that.

You know. It's amazing to me. And I do love, love, love the perennials in my yard that you walk out on in April day and you're like, there is nothing there, and then by the end of August you're dwarfed by this ten foot tall plant and you're just like, how did that happen? And I do feel that way about the about the higbiscus, about the summarific hibiscus, because yeah, they have nothing. They're very late to emerge here in Michigan.

They don't even usually start to emerge until Memorial Day weekend, so late in May, and then two months later you're like, whoa, what just happened? You know, there's just tons of growth and it's covered in flower buds, and yeah, they just they're just such a celebration of the season. I would say that too about my about my Baptisias. Yes, another plant that decadence. Yeah, I mean, they're just again, they start out very humble and then you know, they have

such incredible bloom. I love planting them near my patio so I can sit out there on warm spring evenings and watch the bees. Watching this is like you're probably like, okay, lady, but watching the bees in the flowers of the Baptista is really one of the most beautiful and interesting things that I've ever seen in my life. And I love having them at hand, so I can do that so.

Speaker 1

Humble beginnings when it's small. I would suspect that you also have on your list meant to be AGASTATCHI.

Speaker 2

Oh, I love agastaki. Yeah, yeah, that's another one too that you know I have. I don't have that one actually in my garden, but I do have a blue Boa, which is kind of like the standard or blue Fortune. Those are two similar varieties. And what I love about those months of flower I mean you get about three months of blooms absolutely covered in pollinators, which is a

big characteristic of being an overachiever for me. And yeah, just they're totally impervious to heat, drought, and deer, so always important for my garden.

Speaker 1

You mentioned the size of the summerrific high biscus and how early in the season they're you know, they get off to a slow start. A plant i'd put in that category that I consider an overachiever in shade is sun king or railing. Doesn't look like much early in my garden, but by the time we get to summer in a shade garden, brilliant and big. I think it's an over I.

Speaker 2

Don't know if there is anybody I've ever met who doesn't love that plant. We actually did a recent plant panel episode of our plant recommendation panel where that plant came up and everyone else on the plant panel was like, yes, I love that plant, and that is It's definitely one that if people see it at the garden Center they're just kind of like meh. But you need to have faith in that one, especially if you have shade and

it needs some brightening up. It is a really unique plant and we're just really lucky to have it if you have shade. For interest in the.

Speaker 1

Shade, I'm fascinated how by in April. There are certain annuals in the garden Center I mentioned, you know, something like Verbina nariensis medior shower, or something like a Scavola Gomfrina's Truffle of Pink. Gomfrina is a great example. You know, you might look at Gomfrina's in early spring and think, whatever, this is a big time overachiever. By the time you get to summer, the blooms just keep coming and it stands up to heat and conditions like you would not believe.

So I love plants like that. Lobularia snow princess is another one. You know, we used to have had to deal with the sweet alyssum that would melt out in the summertime. Not anymore. What a great plant.

Speaker 2

They have such great fragrance on that. I love the fragrance of a lissum on a warm summer day.

Speaker 1

In herbs. I consider chives and a regano to be overachievers, and also garlic. All three. Now with oregano, it comes back year after year. And I have a regano in my yard that I don't harvest, but rather I let it go to flower, and it's gorgeous.

Speaker 2

I think it's an over covered in pollinators. You know, it's funny that you mentioned that, because I have a lot of a regino in my yard. Itself sows abundantly, and as we've been dealing with all of the snow lately, I've realized how we're spreading it around, because it kind of grows on the edge of a bed or something like that, and then you shovel and then you pick up an old a regno seedhead, and then next thing you know, you've got a regino in a new spot.

But I do love it, and I do harvest it, and I do let it go to flower because I love how covered it gets in pollinators when it's in flower, And I mean, who doesn't love to have a fragrant oregano rather than some you know, nasty meat you'd have to deal with. Exactly, It readily out competes the weeds in my property and I love that about it. So I'm going to be on that.

Speaker 1

It's an overachiever. And you know, I could go on and on, and I'm sure you could too, Stacy. And if we talk about, for example, an early bloomer hellabores, I would consider a hellibore to be an overachiever. It laughs at the snow in the cold, and it blooms early and pushes through and you think, ah, this plant's kind of gnarrowly, not so beautiful, and boom just like that.

Speaker 2

And another plant you need to have a little faith in because they do bloom so early. When most people are at the garden center, they're done flowering. And so you have a pot with you know, maybe a couple of leaves in it, because they don't love the growing environment of the nursery. They definitely are much happier in

the ground. But if you take the risk on a helliboar, you will be so glad that you did when it is looking amazing in your garden in you know, March or April, and everything else is still sleepy.

Speaker 1

So many plants, so a little time.

Speaker 2

I agree, I'd love to keep going, especially in February. It's a good way to pass February thinking and dreaming about the overachievers in your garden. And if you don't have any overachievers in your gardener, maybe you have a different overachiever you'd like to tell us about. You know, take a look at our list, and we could all use a little more overachievers in our horticultural life. So on that note, we have to bid you farewell for this week. We want to thank you so so very

much for listening. Thank you Rick for joining me today, Thank you Adriana for doing it all and making it happen behind the scenes. And we hope everyone has a wonderful week ahead.

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