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Can Plants Repel Spiders and Snakes? Myths, Tips, and More!

Jun 29, 202444 minSeason 2Ep. 95
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Don't like spiders and snakes? You're not alone! They are beneficial for gardens, though, so we're sharing advice on coexistence and safe, simple management. Featured shrub: Gatsby Moon oakleaf hydrangea.

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You're tuned in to the Gardening Simplified YouTube podcast and radio show coming to you from Studio A. Here at proven winner's color choice shrubs. It's Stacy Hervella, me, Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Yes, folks, it's Adriana who makes this show blossom on your iPhones, iPads, computers, car radio, whatever it may be. And we thank you very

mulch for listening and watching. Well, I don't like spiders and snakes, but that's not what it takes to love me like I want to be loved by you. Words from Jim Stafford, that famous nineteen seventy four song that he wrote and released nineteen seventy four. I'm getting old. I can't believe it, Stacey, you're telling me that's the year I was born. Well,

ask Jim Stafford, or you could ask Pat Wiggers. Pat Wiggers, a wonder lady who stopped me this past weekend, said every week she never misses the Gardening Simplified Show, watches it, listens to it, and Pat was really proud of the fat fact that Pat Wiggers her name the initials were p W p W and she liked that, and I like that too. What a nice lady. And she told me she had an incredible climatis in

her backyard. She showed me a picture and she said one day she was kind of working through that clematis with her hands and a big spider crawled out. She also had a snake in her yard. She had to call her husband, who picked up the snake and carried it off into the woods. Stacy, snakes and spiders are reality in the garden, and I think what we have to remember is that they need three main things to survive, shelter, water, and food. And if the conditions are right providing those three

things, odds are you're gonna see snakes in your garden. Yeah. And you know that food part. That is the really crucial thing, because as much as people get a little bit freaked out when they see a spider or a snake, what these animals are eating in the garden. What attracts them are things that are worse for plants. You know, the snakes and the spiders are totally benign for plants. They don't eat plants, They eat the

things that eat and damage your plants. So it's kind of one of those things where you don't want the cure to be worse than the poison exactly, And the best long term solution is habitat modification. If you have a rachnophobia, is that what it's called, that's what they say, or you don't like snakes, And personally I don't like snakes. I really don't. They kind of creep me out. Now. I know that they're important in the whole biodiversity of our gardens and our landscapes. But I found a novel way

to deal with snakes. I'm saving that for segment for today, the limerick. I'll teach you what I do when it comes to snakes. But you know, most snakes they're afraid of you. They quickly slither away when your presence is known. Yeah, I mean here in North America are snakes. We don't have a ton of very venomous or dangerous snakes. And even among those, they tend to be very reclusive, and they don't want to be They just want to be out there, you know, chowing down mice and

stuff, not messing with you. So the key is eliminating low shade. I had a big snake in my garden A couple of years ago. Boy, it freaked me out, but he was underneath a gigantic tomato plant that had foliage all the way down to the ground, and so it was cool. It was a great place to hide hang out. So you've got to look for those areas of low shade or areas where they can quickly slither away,

whether they're firewood piles or rock walls or whatever they may be. You're going to make it less hospital to snakes if you have there's no need for hysteria, so to speak. But the snakes eat insects and rodents, I mean they are providing a benefit in the landscape. Yeah, I mean a lot of people have a really serious issue with voles and mice, especially if you have a lot of shrubs hydranges. They love to eat hydrange of bark, and so in that case, learning to live with a snake is ultimately

going to do you way more good than trying to eradicate the snake. But I get it, you know, I don't have a problem with snakes. I also have no snakes in my garden, so I can't speak to this necessarily from personal experience, But I like hiking, and I have certainly taken care of many gardens that did have snakes, and to me, I have no problem with their presence, but they do rattle me when I see the

move. Good, oh, I didn't even like that. I do tend to get rattled if if I see a move like I just if I see a snake like slither before I've you know, identified that it's there, Like I just have this sort of like you know, primal reaction of like oh my gosh, you know, danger noodle, as they say. But I do like them, and I do definitely understand the benefit that they have too stains. If I'm concerned and it's a time when there's a lot of snakes

around, I'll carry a stick with me. In the garden, you can kind of just rattle the bottoms of the bushes. I don't go in there barefoot. I make sure that I have shoes on. You want to keep grass mode regularly, keep shrubs pruned or pulled away from the house. There are things you can do to deal with snakes. And then, of course the notorious area underneath the deck. But that's where raccoons and possums and everybody else hangs out too, So you may want to seal off the lower portion

of your deck. The snake repellence, I've found that they don't work. They smell terrible like mothballs. But I think it's more snake oil salesman stuff than it is look at the environment. As far as spiders are concerned. Spiders, of course are good website developers, right. I've got a lot of great spider puns. I'll let them go. You can look them up on the web. But the King and Queen of garden predators are spiders. I personally love spiders. I love the silk web that they weave, their

diversity venom to paralyze their prey. Of course, you've got garden black, widow, brown recluse, wolf, crab jumping spiders. But that's you know. I've read somewhere that about three to fifteen percent of people have a rechnofobia. Oh that's pretty high. Yeah. Yeah. In the garden center the other day, a lady came up to me. She says, can you show me where the tarantulas are? I'm like, tarantula's We don't sell spiders. She says, yeah, tarantulas, everybody's got them. So I walked

her over to the succulent. She said, yeah, there they are the tarantulas. I thought it was interesting. Okay, yeah, she calls them tarantulas. Anyhow, the biggest benefit of garden spiders is that they eat insects, mostly the unwanted pests that you don't want in your flower beds like wasps, beetles, mosquitoes, flies, mayflies, and tall plants help also attract spiders to your garden. I've found that sunflower plants are a great plant for

attracting spiders to your garden. So if you don't want to attract spiders to your garden. But you know, I don't think that it's not easy to just sort of generalize about spider habitat because they will, as you said at the beginning, they'll go anywhere where there's food, and as far as like making a home, they have many options. Not all garden spiders spin webs exactly, so you know, the orb they're called orb weavers, the ones

that make the beautiful sort of stereotypical spider web. But then there's hunting spiders like wolf spiders, and they don't need a tall plant. They're just going to be on the ground hunting around for you know, whatever they can find. The simple fact is if there are insects in your garden, and there are insects in your garden, spiders are going to be there because that's a good food source for them. Absolutely. And you mentioned the wolf spider.

That thing is really spectacular. It's quite something to watch, and you're right. They see a wolf spider, I believe burrows down into the ground or has a little hole in the ground that it comes out of. So they're fascinating. And because of their size, wolf spiders can be kind of intimidating to people. But they're out there cleaning your landscape of some of the nasty insects that you contend with, and they do a pretty good job of it. Have you heard of the juro spiders. Oh yeah, lots of people

freaking out about these. Yeah. These are spiders that are native to Asia, made their way to the US in recent years and they feel they're going to infiltrate more states in twenty twenty four. They use a method called ballooning, spinning that web. They get caught in the wind and they travel and

they move. It's they have a natural mechanism called ballooning. But jiuro spiders have been confirmed in Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee, West Virginia, and Maryland, and they figure it's going to continue to move north. So familiarize yourself with this spider again. A spider using venom to paralyze their prey, not necessarily to cause injury to you. And

spiders are just like the snakes. They really don't want to hang out with you and many times will just scurry away when your presence is felt right, and you know, a spider's venom is intended to paralyze prey. It's not like they are malicious creatures that just are like, oh, who can I go around and bite today? You know, they want to say it takes energy, first of all, and they want to save that venom for doing what counts, which is feeding themselves. So I understand people's fear of spiders.

I think it very much connects to the primal fear that I was talking about with snakes and seeing them move. And there certainly are many areas of the world where spiders can be extremely dangerous and extremely harmful. North America just isn't really one of them. Well I'll tell you what if you do see snakes or spiders in your garden or landscape, it's an indication and frogs, bats that there is good biodiversity there and odds are you do have the healthy

landscape, but the case and plants simplified wolf crab. But that's uh. You know, I've read proven winners. Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in the garden. That's why we trial and test all of our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they outperform everything else on the market. Look for them and the distinctive white container at your local garden centers and gardens.

The order of the day is spiders and snakes. And you know, I think that if you do have a fear of either of these animals or really anything in your garden or in life when it comes to animals, the best thing you can do is to take the IPM approach, which is to say, learn everything that you can about the animal, and then that helps you understand their behavior. That helps you better understand. You know what the issues are and what you can do, what you can change in your garden

to make it less friendly for them. And like you said, that's going to be shelter. That's going to be water, and that's going to mostly be food. Correct, So there you can't always, you know, stop certainly insects from being in your garden. But for example, if you do have snakes, that could indicate that you really have a bigger issue with voles,

with mice, with moles, with any number of small mammals. Chipmunks is another good one, and in that case you could look at trying to control those, maybe modifying the habit to make it less friendly for those, rather than trying to modify the habit to be less friendly for the snake, because that's that's going to be a much taller order. If there is food there, they are going to be there. And this is why I've said

it on the show multiple times. If you have spiders in your house, you need to be a lot more concerned about what they're eating than the spiders themselves, because there is something in your house that is making it hospitable enough for this spider to be well fed and happy in your home. Well said

exactly right on it. Do your research. It really helps. And it's it's kind of like the old proverb to know your enemy, And I'm not saying there are enemies or that the right approach is to think of them as your enemy. But the more you learn, the more you can do to you know, better, make your environment less friendly. And it just seems a lot less scary. I use a unique i PM approach that I use

myself. We'll share it with you in segment four. In the business we call this a radio tas So all right, I am eager to hear it myself. So I did not, you said before, I can't wait to hear how Stacey ties us into snakes, and I didn't. I'm not tying today's plan on trial into snakes. If I could have thought of a way to do that, I would have. But I'm tying it into spiders.

So you know, there are all sorts if you look online, all sorts of websites and things telling you ten plants that you can plant to repel spiders, and this all based on myth and superstition. You know, it made me laugh because one of the plants that kept coming up in these articles was lavender. Oh. Now, of course lavender has a strong fragrance, but you know what, lavender also has a flower that attracts a ton of insects,

a lot of inserts like a lot a lot full of nectar. So you know, if you're planting lavender in the hopes of deterring spiders, it's not gonna work because all you're in this wall. You know, they bloom fairly long, about a month, so in that period you're gonna have bees and flies and moths and butterflies and all these things that spiders are going after.

So, uh, you know that that kind of mentality of like, oh, ten plants to repel spiders, it almost makes these plants out like they are spider kryptonite, Like, oh, they can't they can't cross the lavender line. And that's just not how it works. Spiders do have somewhat of a sense of smell. It's not like our sense of smell. It's sort of just helping them distinguish between, you know, the things that they encounter. But they're not like whoa lavender, better leave, you know.

And then and so many of these sites do kind of imply that that is the case. Spiders just view it as clickbait on the World Wide Web. They ignore it. You should, yeah, and again, whenever you see these things, you do have to like ask yourself, is this a reputable source. And when I search for plants that repel spiders with the command site ste colon dot eedu, because that will limit your results to just university websites. So you know, everything is reputable and reliable, not just you know,

some person just posting stuff on online to get clicks. Not a single site said that these plants would would repel spiders. And if in the off chance maybe essential oils or something might have a chance, it's only going to be indoors. It's not going to work outside. I mean, the outside is just it's just too big. So you have to if you want to deter spiders in your garden, you have to deter insects. You have to deter their prey. And then, of course is easier said than done,

because as we all know, plants and insects go hand in hand. That is nature's way. But what you can do is to plant things that are less attractive to insects and and maybe that will prevent the spiders from taking up residents in your garden. And so my example of this, if you're thinking, like, well, what are you talking about, just like ornamental grasses or pines or something with no flowers, no I'm talking about a mophead hydrangea.

Really, yes, specifically gatsby moon mophead oak leaf hydrangea. Now why would that be okay? So people are familiar with the concept that there are oak leaf or sorry, that there are mophead and lace cap hydrangels. So lace cap hydrangeas. Hydrangs have two different flower types, flourete types. They have a steryl floret, which is the one that you see that's real showy. That's what most people think of when they think of a hydrangea flower.

They're seeing the sterile florets, and then they have the fertile florets, which are small, they're star like, and those are full of pollen and nectar everything that in insects of pollinating insects would want. Now, in nature, most hydrangeas are inherently lace cap because they exist for the pollen and nectar so that they can set seed and reproduce and keep being you know, keep that hydrange of population going. Well. Along comes humans and they're all like,

hey, these steril flourettes are pretty I want more of them. And so they breed plants selectively and they've developed mophead versions and in a mophead hydrangea, and this is true of any type of hydrangea, because mophead and lace cap aren't specific types of hydrangea, they are specific types of hydrorange of flowers. So an oak leaf hydrangea can be a mophead, A smooth hydrangea can be

a mophead piniculat as. All of them can be either or so in these mophead when the sterile florets far far outnumber those fertile fluoret pollinators can't get to them. Now that's interesting, And you know a programming note here. I know Stacey, and she loves insects. She knows a lot about insects.

She enjoys attracting insects to her yard. So in this case, you're just kind of painting a scenario for someone who maybe has arachnophobia and doesn't want as many spiders in there yet, right, so oractophobia if you don't want as

many spiders. A lot of people are allergic to bees. A lot of people are just plaint afraid of bees, and so planting mophead hydrangees can be an effective strategy if you want to reduce you know, if you still have hydranges, you still want summer color and all of that, it can be an effective way to reduce pollinating insects in your garden. Now that is not something I personally would want to do or would recommend, but I understand that

everybody is me, and so I wanted to speak about Gatsby moon. Oak leaf hydrange specifically is today's plant on trial because generally speaking, oak leaf hydrangees, as North American native shrubs, are very pollinator friendly. So I have Gatsby pink in my garden. They've grown tall enough that the deer can't eat them. So I do get some flowers, which is awesome, but yeah, they are pollinator magnets. When they are in flower, they're fragrant,

they're just covered in those fertile florets. And so yeah, I get bees. I see all sorts of really interesting insects, and that again, especially those orb weaving spiders. They set up and they say, hey, this is a hot spot for insects. I'm gonna I'm gonna weave a web right here, and I've got a front row seat to the buffet. So when you have these plants that don't attract them, is they don't attract those pollinating insects. The spider is just gonna go elsewhere to where there is is better

fixings. As it were. So the Gatsby moon as a mophead oakly fydra enge, which is not that common. Most oakly fighter anges are lace cap. The flowers are big and full, and when you see one of these flowers, and if you see it at a garden center, at a garden or something, you just try to get in there. They're so densely packed in the inflorescence that you can't even hardly like separate them with your hands to

get down to those fertile florets, and so neither can the insects. If it's hard enough to do with your fingers, imagine how hard it would be for a little bee trying to get in there. It's not worth the effort. There's other things that it can do. So it's a good choice in that way, and it's still a beautiful plant. And you know, I always recommend oak leaf hydrangeas as one of my all time favorites because in my opinion, they are the true four season hydrangea. A lot of other hydrangeas

they just don't look that great in winter. A lot of them don't have fall color. Whereas the oak leaf Hydrangea has these beautiful oak shaped leaves that come out with fuzzy white growth on them in spring flowering just starting to flower here in Michigan right now in late June, and then the flowers persist through summer. In fall amazing fall color, beautiful burgundy red. So you see, for a deciduous plant to have four seasons of interest, that's pretty special.

Yeah, and especially for a hydrangea. Then in winter you get the beautiful peeling bark. So it's kind of like a having your cake and eating it to kind of plant. Now, it's not to say that you won't get any in because I have seen some really interesting wool carter bees on my oak leaf hydrangeas that harvest the fluff for their nests. So that's always a fun thing to see. So, I mean, it's impossible to have a

plant without some insects. But again, you can do these things, make these choices of you know, having a mophead versus a lace cap to try to reduce the insects and to hopefully in turn reduce the spiders or you know, like I said at the beginning, another alternative is just to learn everything you can try to make peace with them, you know, and you know, carry a stick. It works for the spiders and it works for the snakes, so you can kind of, you know, go ahead and clear

the pass and scare the spiders and snakes. But even if you aren't concerned about insects, Gatsby Moon is a beautiful addition to your hydrange collection. It really is very very unique. There just aren't a lot of those big, full mopheads that you see, especially when it comes to oak leaf, even though they're way more popular in the big leaf and the mountain Hydrangeas you just see how much with the with the oak leaf. It's true and boy gets

my stump of approval. That is a gorgeous plant, so gets by moon. Oakleaf hydrange is hardy from USDA zones five heat tolerant to USDA Zone nine six to eight feet tall and wide, so this is a bigger plant. But if you have a large spot in your garden, you can't do much better than this beautiful native oak leaf HYDRANGEA look for it at your local garden center, or of course you can visit us at Gardening Simplified on air dot com to find all the details and a link to find a direct if you

are so a lot of people are. People are just playing afraid effectively strategy. If you know if you still have hydrangeas, you still have want summer color and all of that, it can be an effective way to you. At Proven Winner's Color Choice, we've got a shrub for every taste and every space. Whether you're looking for an easy care rose, an unforgettable hydrangea, or something new and unique, you can be confident that the shrubs and the

white containers have been trialed and tested for your success. Look for them at your local garden center. Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where it's, in my opinion, the best time of the show because I love knowing what's going on out there. I know what's going on in my garden. I know what's going on in the trial gardens here around Proven Winner's Color Choice shrubs, but I don't know what's going on in

your garden. So I love reading people's questions and especially your garden celebrations and your garden quandaries and conundrums, so we can help you resolve them. So if you have a garden quandary, conundrum or celebration. We would love to hear from you too. Gardening Simplified on Air dot Com is our website. There's a contact form there, and you know, you can reach out to us there with your pictures and tell us what's going on, because it's a

busy time in the garden. And you know, when we get into hydrange season, which for some people have already started. If you live in a warmer climate, ooh, that's when the questions really start rolling in. So I believe that our first question today is home in fact hydrange question. Yes it is, Tina writes to us, I would love a blue hydrange of for my garden. My current you know, that's got to be one of the most desired color plan chands down a garden, hands down. My current

macrophilla is pink despite my adding loads of soil acid of fire. Will the blue Jangles variety remain blue even in my assuming higher pH soil? Thanks? Okay, So great question, Tina. I'm going to try to answer this as quickly and clearly as I can. So it is there's a big there's

a big fact of confusion out there with hydrange's changing their flower color. So first of all, as Tina points out, only hydrange of Macrophylla, which is also known as big leaf Hydrangea fluoris hydrangea will change their flower color based

on soil chemistry. Other flowers other hydrangeas will not. This is unique to this species of Hydrangea, and the color change does not happen solely based on soil pH A lot of people think that if it's in acidic soil, it'll be blue, if it's an basic or alkaline or neutral soil, it'll be

pink. But that's not actually the whole story, greed, because you do need it to be acidic for blue and alkaline for pink or red, but you also need aluminum in the soil, and aluminum is a naturally occurring soil mineral, so it's but it's more present in clay soils than in sandy soils. So Here out in West Michigan, our hydrangeas definitely tend more to the pink and red. Our soil is neutral to acidic, but we just because it's so sandy out here, we just don't have the aluminum to get that

blue color. Now, to compound matters, the majority of color change products that are out there on the market to change the color of your hydrangea are simply soil acidifiers, so they will make your soil more acid But if the issue with your hydrange or color change is that it doesn't have aluminum, they will do nothing. And so you'll keep applying it and applying it and applying it and making your soil more and more acidic without ever getting the color change

that you were hoping to get. Oh, very true and Stacey and the garden center industry. I remember selling some product in a bright blue package and it was called aluminium sulfate. Yes, is that something we're looking Yes, aluminum right there, the name you got. I figured that I thought I'd take a shot at you need aluminum sulfate. Now. I would not encourage you to just go out there and apply STEPH willy nilly. This is a great opportunity to get a soil test and find out what's really going on.

But if you have been applying a soil acidifier and it's not giving you results, then chances are the aluminium is the issue, and you are going to want to put down aluminum sulfate instead of just the soil acidifier, and then that will add the aluminium ions that need to be there for the chemical reaction to take place for the flowers to turn blue. No, so that tells you what you need. But now as for the variety, let's stands blue

jangles, which is indeed a proven Winter's color choice variety. Not every hydrangea is equally able to go from blue to pink to purple and morph through those color changes. The more red a hydrange has in it inherently, the less likely it will be to go blue. So when we put blue in the name of one of our hydrange of varieties, what that means is that it will go blue more easily. If conditions are right, it will be blue. But that if the conditions are right is still important. So yes,

blue jangles will be blue in acidic soil that contains aluminum. But if you have a soil that doesn't contain aluminum and or it's not acidic, it won't be blue. That's just the way that it is. But it's to signify that it can if conditions are right, but that those conditions are really really crucial. So Tina, I would say, since you have been applying acidifier, I would just switch to aluminum sulfate make sure that you are reading those

directions very carefully. An over application of aluminum sulfate can actually be very toxic for plants, so you don't want that to happen. And you also need to be patient because typically what needs to happen is that the aluminum sulfate needs to be present when the flower buds are being made, when it blooms. So it's not like you're going to be able to put aluin himself eight down

and then come out in a week in surprise it's blue. You might see a little color change, but for those like deep, rich, true blues that most people are after, it's going to take some time, and you're going to need to keep applying it over the course of time, and you will if you want to have a blue hydraena, you'll need to do it in perpetuity because you're so I will just go back to its natural conditions without it. So Tina and Blue Jangles, we have our eye on you.

Did you get that? I did? I like that. It's a good one. Yeah, I thought that was pretty good too, right, I feel very positive about that. All right, let's continue on here. Thanks for the note, Tina, Roger writes, to us. I have a semi dwarf peach tree that I got on Mother's Day. Since then, it's been going downhill. I've been watering. Other than adding compost dirt around it and a layer of wood chips over the top, I have added no other

fertilizers. And Roger sends us a picture in Stacey. I took a look at that picture. One thing I want to note right off the bat is something I see often, and that is the tree is staked with a steak that they use in the nursery industry to ship these trees. But it's not the proper way to steak a tree, so it's right up next to the trunk. So I would pull that steak off. Initially, it's not causing your problem, but I recommend pulling that steak off and getting that tree steaked

appropriately. What I saw in the picture Stacey, I commonly see with the peaches. My personal opinion is it's peach scab. Do you agree or disagree with me? I don't know that I disagree, But I also what I'm seeing in this plant is just general stress, okay. And you know a plant when a plant goes from the grower, which you just bought this recently. As recently as may goes from the grower it goes to the garden center.

It makes a dramatic change in the conditions that it's experiencing. And the leaves that a plant makes under a more shaded or protected environment are different than the leaves that it's going to need when it's out in full sun and wind and all of that. And so that's what a lot of people will see happen after they plant something out in the full sun, out in the wind, and the plant is just like you know, the leaves don't have the right type of chlorophyll in them, and so a lot of times the plant

will really struggle. And that's what I feel like I'm seeing here is leaf scorch from the sun. But it absolutely could be a fungus. I mean, peach trees are, of all fruit trees you can grow at home, the most notorious for all the crazy diseases that they can get notorious. And

if it's not peach scab, and I would understand that. The important thing here is if you're irrigating, don't be irrigating over the top and soaking that foliage or wet foliage into the evening hours, because that's when you're going to start getting those diseases. Yep. So here's what I would recommend. Take that steak out. Like Rick said, it's not really doing any good and it could cause the could cause the bark to get injured and leave an opening

there. I would definitely scratch up the mulch so that water can penetrate a little bit better. It looks fairly matted down and that can become hydrophobic and make it difficult for water to reach the roots. And then I would just continue to care for it as you have been. I would be hopeful that in the next couple weeks the foliage that emerges is going to be adapted to

the outdoors and be just fine. But just to be on the safe side, when autumn comes and the plant drops its foliage, make sure you clean all that up and discard it. Don't compost it, just throw it away, and that way any fungal spores that are on it will be hauled away and less likely to harm your plant. But I don't think you have any huge cause for concern. I'm not seeing welting, I'm not seeing water stress. I'm just seeing a plant that's a little like WHOA. I've been through

some crazy stuff lately. Gillian writes to us Bonjour, Rick, and Stacy. I love that I always had that phrase I've used through the years, Bone Jour. My mom has been dealing with this groundcover for years. She sends us a picture. Thank you, Jillian. A friend from my childhood gave it to her. It seems to be spreading by runners and does not want to take leaf of the area by spraying, cutting, or pulling. Can you identify what this plant is how best to eliminate it? Thank you,

very mulch. She also mentions I enjoy listening to the show while with my horse. I'd love for it to be longer, especially the details section of the plants on trial segment. And Stacy, looking at that picture, you nailed it right off the back. Yes, I did. And I was laughing about this, Gillian, because this is a plant that just last episode, Rick was talking about this plant and he said, I do not recommend that you plant This is when we were talking about the plants that undergo

color changes. It is chameleon plant known as houtunia. And yeah, it is a nightmare. Honestly, it's I don't know if you could call this a friend. I'm sure they were well intentioned, permanent It is one of the worst weeds, worse, most aggressive groundcovers, and worse weeds to try to deal with in the garden because it does spread by runners, and those runners are really thin and really fragile, and so you try to pull it out in any little piece of those runners still in the soil is just going

to cause the plant to come back proper dated. So probably the easiest way to try to control this is, if possible, make the soil dryer. They cannot deal with dry soil. They love moist, wet conditions. So if you have an irrigation system or other ways that this area is being watered, try cutting back on that. That's not going to take care of it, but that can certainly help the help it spread less aggressively. It is even hard if you're willing to use an herbicide on it. It's hard to

control with an herbicide because it's really really waxy. If you are going to try it, I have found that more of a two four D based herbicide works better than a glyc of state herbicide on those plants. Where it's hard for things to stick. But if you are going to try it, I would actually try it in spring before that waxy coating comes off develops, because then you should be able to get better contact. And hopefully it's going to

take repeated applications. This is one of those weeds that you can't just say, Okay, I weeded and I'm good. It's going to take many seasons of concerted effort, and I would say a variety of techniques to try to control it. Karma chamelia yes, also known as chameleon plant, although yours, for some reason it is all green instead of colorful, which so you're not even getting color. You just have this obnoxious speed. So I will

put some resources for you on the show. Outes at Gardening Simplified on air dot com. We got to take a break. When we come back, we've got branching news. The Gardening Simplified Show is brought to you by proven Winner's Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens have been trialed and tested for your success so you enjoy more beauty and less work. Look for proven Winners color Choice shrubs in the distinct of white container at your local

garden center. Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for branching News and Stacey. I threw this story in this week for Branching News. A very nice lady by the name of Nary Brown was visiting the Walmart in Pineville, Louisiana last week when she found an unexpected item in her shopping cart, right where she normally stows her kids. In the cart, there was a venomous snake. Yikes. Yes, this has made the rounds on Facebook.

Her Facebook post that she didn't even see the snake at first, an other customer pointed it out to her. She says she's grateful she took her kids to daycare instead of to the store with her. The snake appears to be a juvenile cotton mouth snake. Wow, yikes, and that brings up the point I mentioned in the first segment my IPM. Wait, wait, they didn't say how it got there, No, they don't. She just

looked down in her cart and all of a sudden, cotton mouth. I'm gonna guess that the cart was probably out in the parking lot, and then when they collected it up, it kind of coiled up inside. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. There you have it. Surprise free snake with every purchase. Like I said, hysteria at the wal Mart. So there you go. Gave her quite a fright. It would me too.

So my IPM approach for dealing with snakes me personally is this. I'll give it to you in the form this week of a limb a rick, and that is how do I proceed with a level of class with reptiles. I'll take a pass. I'm not much of a snake charmer. As a matter of fact, I wear armor when faced with a snake in the grass. Snakes aren't for everyone, so not to be outdone when faced with a slithering serpent or any other intruding insurgent. I've trained myself to run, and

boy, Stacy, can I unfast? I know you, so running is always an option. That's my IPM approach to dealing with snakes in the garden. I've taught myself how to run, and you know, perhaps the impact of your feet on the earth will make the snake go away. On the cycle, I probably scare the snake away to that way. Hey, this is a fabulous story. I love this. This is right in my wheelhouse. And again, any of these stories we post them to Gardening Simplified on

air dot com. That's our website. You'll find links there and links to stories, information, pictures, so make sure to visit Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. A mechanic has built the fastest wheelburrow in the world in his garage. Dylan Phillips has modified the wheelbarrow to fit an engine and a sled so it can hit a top speed of more than fifty miles per hour. We

heard that right, a wheelburrow that's faster than fifty miles per hour. After two years of tinkering, Phillips, who's thirty eight years old, has claimed a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records after the wheelbarrow reached an average of fifty two point five eight miles per hour and a high speed of fifty six point eight two miles per hour. The previous record, held by Kevin Nix was forty four point six miles per hour. He just did it for

fun. The videos fun to watch, the story's fun, and kudos to him. I consider him a true entre manere. Dylan Phillips, the world's fastest wheelbarrow. Well, so I'm taking at this is not a wheelbarrow that you stand behind and and propel. He sits behind it. Okay. So he made a little sled and he's said, okay, God, that's the sled part. Okay. Because he doesn't run beyond then he is that when I was installing all my mulch a few weeks ago, fifty miles an hour

would have been helpful. How about a story. Tolos out today's show in VideA is a company led by CEO Jensen Huang. He says a Japanese gardener taught him one of the most profound learnings of his life, and it's why he can be on top of every detail of his three point two trillion dollar

chip Giant I mean amazing. Jensen is known in Silicon Valley for his meticulous attention to detail, and it was a chance encounter with a Japanese gardener that helped the CEO realize he has the time to be a perfectionist instead of racing to the next project. He used to work in one of their overseas offices. He learned this lesson while on vacation with his family. He was in Kyoto, Japan, at the Silver Temple and the Mosque garden, and they

visited. He said, it was suffocatingly hot and humid. Sticky heat is radiating from the ground. And along with the other tourists, they wandered through this meticulously groomed moss garden. He noticed a loan gardener. Now, remember, this moss garden is gigantic and it's exquisitely maintained. He noticed a loan gardener squatting carefully picking at the moss with a bamboo tweezer and putting it into a bamboo basket. Now he thought that what in the world is going on

here. He walks up to him, and he says, what are you doing, he says, and the gardener says, I'm picking dead moss. I'm taking care of my garden. Now, Jensen said, but your garden is so big, and the gardener responded, I've cared for my garden for twenty five years. I have plenty of time. Now that's really really something, because Jensen Huang has twenty six thousand employees, and he he now feels that he has the capacity to support them, that he's not too busy for

them. He used this in a graduation address, and I thought that that was that was really neat the impact that this gardener at that mosque garden had on this the CEO in his work, he was meticulous. Yeah, you know, I have been to Japan and I've actually been to that garden, and yeah, you see in any garden that you go to in the Kyoto area, you will see gardeners, you know, crouching down and weeding areas with tweezers. It's it is definitely an exercise in care and in patience.

But you know, I feel like gardening is so poignant like that. I mean, have you ever read the book Being There by Jersey Kauz Escape or seen the movie very much like The Gardener comes out with all these life insights that completely change the financial world. Now, speaking of gardening the financial world, I saw I was watching financial TV a couple days ago and I saw this thing and it said so and so oh will now move to whatever company

after a period of gardening leave. And I stood right, I said, gardening leave? Is this a real thing? And I but my instinct said no. My instinct said no, this person did not take leave to work on their garden as lovely as that would be, and as much as I was thinking, well, gee, I could take some gardening leave to no. It turns out gardening leave is a term for when someone leaves a company but is under like a non disclosure because I have like a big project that's

going to be, you know, coming out. So the company still pays them, but they don't have to work. And that is in financial sector and probably tech as well known as gardening leave. Wow, I'd like that, get I know. So whether this person actually did any gardening on their gardening leave, I don't know, but I was extremely disappointed to find out it was not, in fact a leave dedicated to horticulture. That's great, you could add that to your investment horfolio, right, are you good?

Hey? Real quickly? You know how much I disliked garden hoses? Yeah, oh yeah, So I was happy to see this story. A homeowner uses his garden hose to save his house from serious fire damage. It happened last week in Fargo, North Dakota. A Fargo homeowner's quick actions potentially saved his home from significant damage. A fire started on his deck was spreading to his home by the time the fire department got there he had put it out with the garden hose. So garden hoses, you know, they have a

reputation of getting kinky and you trip on him and hoses frustrate me. But in this case, this homeowner used his garden hose to do a good thing. He did the work before the firefighters got there and saved his home. I thought that was a good, feel good It is a feel good story.

I'm just shocked that he didn't have any kinks in the hose, that it wasn't all knotted up, and that he was able to, you know, quickly turn on the water and deliver it where it needed to be, because that does not seem didn't get caught on the edge of the bed while he's trying to go put out the fire exactly. So I'm glad that everything worked out well and that for once, garden hoses did not live up to their frustrating reputation. There you go. Thanks for watching and listening to the

Gardening Simplified Show. Remember we are a podcast, YouTube show, and radio show. You can get more information at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com, and we'd love to have you send pictures and notes. We always love to hear from you. Thank you, Stacy, thank you Rick, thank you Adriana, and thanks to you for making the Gardening Simplified Show part of your weekly habit. Take care,

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