“The Wheelchair Game” with Paul Pierce | 2008 NBA Finals: Celtics vs. Lakers

for the greatest games of all time. Today's episode The Wheelchair Game Boston versus LA two thousand and eight NBA Finals Game one and our guest the Truth Paul Piers for thoughts in the games, like what's your gut reaction and memories you were? I mean, this was a Kent Still. You were kent Still. You were there. You became friends with these guys later later, But were you at any of these games? I was, I thought I was at this game. I was actually at the next year one.

Next year was I wasn't at this one. This is what do you think when you think of this series. I mean, this is a pretty epic It's Boston in LA the most historic NBA rivalry. Yeah, I mean I remember getting excited for the whole Boston LA. I wasn't really in the Boston world yet. I was still like a Bay Area kid in Ohio, but I always remembered this was like the first year of the like the Big Three team. They brought over Ray Allen, Paul Pierce was there, and then they got Kevin Garnett, Like this

was like the first super team. And they did it through trades, like you think about the Miami Heat. Lebron and Bosh signed with the Heat. Yeah, they made I mean this was like Al Jefferson and some other stuff. I'm jack. You could look up the total package was Al Jefferson and stuff for Garnett, and then it was like Jeff Green, Delonte West and something for Ray Allen. I mean they they did it through the front office exactly. But I just I remember I was always a Ray

Allen fan because he got game great movie. You know what I saw in the theater with my mom and during the titty scene she put her hands over my eyes. Did you did you give one of these? Did you like, did you like open her eyes like her hand? Thought about it, but like, what am I gonna fight with my mom's fingers to see titties? It was like a great movie, great movie. One of my favorite Spike Spike Lee joint unbelievable. But Denzelze Denzel is one of you

could hoop apparently. I mean, I think in the original screenplay, something I read once was that it was supposed to be eleven zero in the one on one game Jesus Shuttles were versus Denzel, and then Spike Lee was like shit, Denzel's kind of good, so they made it like eleven to three or something. They had to give him some respect. Yeah, you got it. I mean it's Denzel, He's one of

the goats. Yeah, but uh yeah, dude. This is just like a cool ass game series because it just has the tradition of basketball, even if you weren't a big basketball person. You know about the Celtics and the Lakers. So I was just excited to see it. I mean, you think of the names going through the years. It's like Walt versus Bill Russell, Magic versus Bird, you know, Kareem versus Parish. You know, now you have a new era Kobe versus you know, Pierce Garnett, Allen, all these guys.

I mean, there's so many big names in this series. It's augasol lamar Odom, lamar Odom. I loved it. This was pre Kardashian. We all have to look that up. He was still good. So I'm gonna guess it was pre Kardashian's pre Kardashian. Yeah, you know, there's something about that Kardashian vagina that just sucks the power out of out of star athletes. I don't know what. I've never been there, I don't know. But let's go back to

June two thousand and eight. On this day, one of my favorite TV shows became a movie and it became the number one movie. What was a Sex and the City? Are you a Sex in the City? Head? Nah? But I would watch it. It's fun. I loved it. I mean, like that made me want to live in New York. Got to live in New York. Anytime I walked around here, I was like, this is like Sex and the City. Yeah, dude, you know what I mean. So this is not what I expected from Julian Edelman, and I love it. Love

Sex and the City. It's a good show. I mean, we've already we've already established. I love rom coms and Sex and the City r so like I'm big. I like that stuff. If it's if I'm on the road and Sex and the City comes on like TBS or something, I'm pumped. I'm secretly pumped. But I met the actress Christin Davis who plays Charlotte when I was in like maybe eighth grade. I walked into a diner with my friends.

We were in our JV basketball uniforms, and I said, I know you from Sex and the City and she goes, you're too young to watch that show. And I said, oh, yeah, then how come I know your husband came get hard got a huge laugh in the diner. She she gave me like all right, and you know, and that's when you is that when you first thought, like, I'm going to be a stand up comedian? No, probably I think she gave me a giggle. She was like all right, she was. Do you think you had a shot because

you made her laugh. I was in eighth grade, so probably not, but you know, you best believe that was that was for the spank bank. Later you're like, I gonna laugh at a Christian day. I knew that was the best. I get hey now, eighth grade. That's I mean, yeah, you miss all the shots you don't take. But I should have gone for it, dude, you miss all the shots you don't take. We had a moment what if what if a thirteen year old me just like went for it and she was like, please leave me, Please

leave me alone. It kind of reminds me. I don't know why, remember blank check? Did we already talk about it? I remember the movie a little. I remember I saw it as a kid. Yeah, blank checked. The guy like little Macintosh kid was hitting on the hot cop, undercover cop, and I always thought that you had a shot. Yeah. I was like, man, I used to love that. That that that lady, she was so beautiful. Yeah, well what actress was that? Who is she? I don't she was

in a couple, but uh also, you got jack. Was that Karen Duffy? It could have been car Yeah. And she had short hair, yeah, she just and she was she was real cool. Yeah you know what I mean. She was like had that little cool personality where like she was always comforting and I don't know, I was in love with her. That was That was definitely like I always had adult crushes always, yeah, always, And I also Jack, who who are you guys? Who are you? Who are your guys? Who are your guys? Will obviously

know who are your crushes? When you were like a kid actress? Who is the fingers the figure skater? I always had finger skater. He got ahead of the fantasy and not Nancy Kerrigan. Tara Lepinsky was that. I don't know why had She was like our age. I was in eighth grade. I remember I loved her. Yeah, I think Tara, if you're listening, check how small this shirt is and it works it where he can pull it off because he's shredded speak. I mean like, yeah, let's

get on this shirt. Okay, we need I needed to get something Boston. He send out all our other Sam Sam too, Yeah, to go out and get me some. He gets me a sized medium. So I'm over here getting choked out right now in the shirt. But it looks good. You look good, thanks. You look like you could be chopping some lumber in the in the gene shorts. You look shredded. Dude. Hey, just trying to push along, buddy, give me another. Julian Edelman childhood crush, childhood crush. I

loved Cameron Diaz in The Mask Classic Loved You. That was her first movie. Yeah, first movie. I loved her. Who are your question crushes? That's so I can think about mine? Denise Richards for sure. I remember I did. I did it. I did someone's show once and he goes, who are you? Who are your crushes? And I said Denise Richards, Jennifer love Hewitt, And then we went to break and he goes, fuck them both. I won't say who it was, but I was like, wow, He's like,

I want you to keep going. I was like, I mean Jesus, yeah, I also what it was funny. I loved Mariah Carey. Yeah, she was beautiful. And then I got to meet her. I went backstage at a concert when I was like in eighth grade and I was like literally up to her breast, like in height, and I remember taking this picture and she's that tall. No, I was just that small. I was a little kid. I was like a little last kid. It was like eighth grade, like four eleven, four or eight or something.

And got to meet her and it was like the happ like I was like so stars. I was like like a little boy, just blushing, like hey, Mariah, how are you do you? Would you still head it? I mean, you know, Lollipop was the number one. I know what. I think that's a yes, Mariah, Come on, games with nams. Let's keep it going, allR Let's keep it going. Sorry, I'm taking us down a terrible direction here. This week in sports? How old is? How old is my carriage

jacket on? Old enough to know the game, young enough to still care, I'd say, I'd say it's worth the shot. She's got to be in her fifties. She's fifty three. Yeah, but she said, but she's a hot fifty three. But I bet you she's still very beautiful, very beautiful, very attracted. So the Red Wings this Week in Sports beat the Pittsburgh Penguins four to two in the Stanley Cup Finals. Sorry, Kyler.

The Big Brown failed to capture the Triple Crown after coming in dead last at the Beaumont Stakes, the Belmont Belmont Stakes, Belmont. I'm still right here, isn't it? The Belmont's right now? I'm not a horse guy, you know what. Actually, I've been to the Belmont. It's fun. Yeah, I've been, but it's just not my thing. It's the longer race, right, that's the longest one, Jack, isn't that? I think that's

the longest race out of the triple crown. So it's all we it's hard to get that last one because it's like a sprint, like I don't know, mile and a half mile and a half longest one, I believe, I don't know. What are the ridiculous trends of this time in life? Two thousand and eight, BlackBerry messaging? Remember that a PM? Yeah, I remember it, but I was I had a razor. You're a razor guy. I was a razor kid. You threw it out the ears are with the Patriots. It's a beard drive. Yeah. I realized that.

I realized that that's a Are you a stand up comedian? No? No? I quit? Yeah, me too. I quit after Christen Davis didn't have sex with me. When I was a child. Uh, razors were cool. Those were cool. You know what it's cool? But the razors is there were like a power phone. It was back in the day when when you got off a call, you'd be like, all right, bye, yep. You don't even have to stay by. You could just do this. You just flip it. That's a power move.

It is a power move and it looks sleek, you know. I had the black one like that was like the cool one, and then the iPhone came out probably this year or the next year. When was iPhone? Two thousand and seven five June twenty ninth, two thousand and seven, two thousand and seven. Are Blackberries even still around? Yeah, my agent still has one. Really, don yee a BlackBerry? They still have a black The last time you saw a BlackBerry, it's been a while, but people loved it.

Everyone loved their BlackBerry, like business people love their BlackBerry. Yeah, why do they love them so much? The messaging I think it was the typing for Yeah, the time was actually do you know what, because that's back in the day when it was hard. You had a razor that took like twenty minutes to send a fucking text, Hi, I love you? Yeah done. Yeah, it was a while I was wait, actually longer than that. I was. You couldn't sex back in those days. It would take too long, no,

especially if you're a premature ejaculator. Yeah. That and then also like it would take you like thirty two minutes to upload a jpeg. That's true, and they were bad quality terrible. If you have like a titty pic, you're like, I don't even know if that's you. You look like the woman from the Ring. I don't know who the hell this is. But two thousand and eight, a lot of election stuff that summer. Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house. Shoutout, Glenn Rice. We have

on the wall who apparently had sex with her? Did he's that's Jack. You might have to get on this. I believe Glenn the same college or somethinghere. I think that's the thing. That's Nail and Palin. That's interesting. Yeah, that's big, I mean big, if true. Would she did? She didn't become the vice president? No, no, no, she lost that one. John McCain, I'm sure did not like her. I think he had a lot of momentum and then he brought her on board and she said a lot

of dumb shit. Politics. Yeah, dude, never talk politics. No politics, absolutely no politics on this show. What were you doing in two thousand and eight? You were Kent State? Ken State was my last year? Yeah, my last year at Ken State. I was I was actually looking at firehouses. I was gonna go be a fireman. U if the draft didn't work. Wow. I went to Cincinnati, Ohio, met with a firehouse chief and uh kind of shadowed them nice and and that's what I was doing. Firemen are

brave as hell. Man. Yeah, I thought it was just kind of cool. It's my my friend's husband's the fire captain. He's a badass. I love it. I just wanted to, like, get on that big old truck. You would have looked cool as ship on that truck. Dude just yoked up. Were you would have been so yoked throwing the hose over your shoulder? What were you doing? I was in college. I was handing out flyers, uh to get on stage in New York City. I was handing out flyers in

the street. I was I was doing a lot of like, hey, live comedy. You guys want to see some live comedy. And then sometimes they would then I'd go on some of those shows, so then they'd be I'd be like, great lineup tonight, and then those people would be in the crowd and they'd be like, who you're on the show? Fuck you? So they were furious. Uh, and now look at you. Now, look man, now look at you. I'm with I'm sitting next to Super Bowl MVP Julian I don't.

I'm sitting next to future Netflix special Sam Morrell. I mean Jesus Crime, and you look at it just like that. Life, life changes, life comes you fast. Man. This two thousand and eight Celtics team sounds like my sex life coming fast. Yes, applause in the room. I got an applause. Yomi Yomi's Yomi's been coaching me up because you know we're new at this. You know, I'm new at this. I don't have any fucking podcasting experience. But you're doing great. No,

but yeah, thank you, thank you crushing it, dude. But you know, you gotta gotta take everyone's everyone's opinion and and coaching. And I'm just trying to improve day to day. I got to stop with the Patriots stuff. I mean Patriot like, hey, let's improve today, Let's do good here. Let that attitude is what's going to take you to the top of the iTunes charts as well as uh Spotify. Yeah, Spotify,

Let's take over dude, iTunes Spotify. Uh. The Celtics this year were sixty six and sixteen, first in the East. I mean they were on fire. Coach by Doc Rivers, Doc to us one he came and talked to our team. Loved Doc. Doc's a legend. We'd always have like legendary people or head coaches or business leaders, or they would come and speak to the whole team in like the offseason.

Doc gave an unbelievable presentation to us, talked about winning and what he believes in and uh actually speaking of this, Kobe came and spoke to us too, really, which was honestly one of the most He was one of the most interesting humans I've ever heard in that climate, you know what I mean. He just you could tell through the way he prepared, the way he like, he read a lot of books. He always he was very He knew like a bunch of languages in six languages. I

think I don't know flew in new six languages. He just he was so interesting and like his attention to detail and his and his question asking, like he'd ask us questions so then he could take it to where he was going next in whatever he wasn't playing anymore.

But I mean, you could just tell that guy was a fierce fucking winner, you know, like just Ia the Tiger, He'll fucking rip your heart out and like would do it over and over and over and over again just to show you you're not better than like that's the kind of and it like you felt that when he spoke, Yeah, you know it was. That was one of the That was one of the coolest things, one of the coolest people that came and talked to us before a season.

But let's get back. They drafted Kendrick Perkins twenty seventh overall. Perk He's on ESPN, great great pick. He really filled out the middle. He was a tough guy. KG and Perkins next to each other were tough as nails. By the way, assistant coach on this team, the defensive mastermind, my man coach Tibbs, Tip Tom tib Though, KG and ray Allen. They got this year best defensive rating in the league. KG was easily the defensive player of the year,

one of the best ever. And the names on this team, you know, Im Pierce, Ray Allen, Garnett, Rondo, Perkins, Eddie House, James Posey and the Lakers. Then we go to the Lakers record was fifty seven and twenty five. They finished first in the Western Conference. Obviously coached by the Phil Jackson, who's like the mind massager of people that we all have heard over the years. He's kind of he kind of he's kind of like a no. I would say Pops more like Bill or Who's Bill? I think Bill

is closer to Pop. I think Popovich. Yeah, I think the Spurs and the Patriots have some like cultural similarities. Yeah, boring, boring all for one. Yeah, just when amazing systems and obviously Pop and Belichick or two of the best ever. But I always liked seeing like the background things on Phil how he was like he would always take like the out of the box approach to everything, like hey guys, let's like do yoga today and like work on our

mental being. You'll get you Like weird books, yes, and there were always books that were like this is about a Navajo tribe and they'd be like, can we just fucking play the game? What are you? What are you doing? But I like that Phil was like this odd dude. He was, you know, very zen and he uh this was weird because I remember a few years prior so he left the Lakers after the three p and he

comes back. He also trashed Kobe in his book and then was like all right, I'm back now, and You're like, what the hell, what the hell you just trash Kobe in your book, but now that but they became good again. Clearly a master at managing egos, that's what you would say. And winning heals everything. So yeah, I mean the Jordan Pippen teams with Rodman, the you know, Shaq and Kobe, and then the next the next step was you know, Kobe Gasol buying him a lot, a lot of names

on this. It's pretty crazy that the only place Phil couldn't win in is New York. He won, He won championships here as a player. He as a player, but like when you get into the coaching and like the upper division depart minute, like it's it was bad luck. You can't even bring in the best coach of the history of the game to get you. Well, he was in the front office. He was sleeping at the at the practices. You'd be watching, you'd see him on ESPN

and he'd just be like asleep at a practice. I'm like, you got him on camera sleeping, What the fuck is going on? Yeah, I always will love Action Jackson, Phil Jackson, the legend, but uh yeah, he was not the right not the right pick for I think he was kind of half in on that job half and got paid big money. Yeah, big money. All right, I'm gonna be in Florida. Hit me up when you need me. So this game was Lakers with the number one seed in the West, Celtics with the number one in the East.

The Celtics won this four to two in six games. And this was a classic game. It really you know, Pierce goes out in the wheel is in, he carried off. It was so dramatic. I was like, is this the thought he was getting helicoptered off? Oh my god, I thought I was watching Platoon. This is crazy. We lost a lot of good men out there, and Paul Pierce was one of them. After I saw this, but he comes back in the wheelchair. It was very you know,

very dramatic. Or he leaves in the wheelchair. He comes back walking obviously, sprinting, sprinting, sprinting, and they're cheering like crazy in Boston, going hard any and he hit some huge buckets. Ray Allen hit some huge buckets. They were down right, they were down for Paul Pierce comes back momentum. I think there's a lot there's a lot of speculation. Did he poop his pants? Did he shit his pants? That's what people I know. People are going like, what

are you talking about? There's talk that he might have pooped his pants, But then I was looking at every angle when they were carrying them off and stuff. That would have been a hell of a play job, sell job. He could have been wearing tight undies though, and they could have caught it in maybe white white, but maybe it ducked. Maybe a turd ducked out and it was captured by the by the pants and it didn't leak out.

Now I'm telling you from it experience. As a you know, professional athlete, you drink so many electrolytes, like to keep the fluids in sure that you're getting Hershey squirts, you know you're not getting You're not getting full, just turds that are fucking like thick, healthy turds. You're getting a little squirty action. Have you ever pooped your pants? No? I have not pooped my pants. I have not, ah not in the game. I may have sharded once, I

don't Yeah, maybe where I don't know. I'll give you a poop a pants story if you can't come, I got I got one. You got first grade school bus midtown traffic, couldn't hold it in, had to go. I was you ship your pants? My pants on the school bus? And I remember one of the I just said, I can't, I can't last any longer. And I just went. And I remember one could go there was no way he really went. Another could touch my butt and he goes,

he's not lying. It was brutal. You know, if I was there, I would have shipped my pants too, just so people. Really, you would have Billy Madison, Billy Madison, do you have new pants? Is cool? They're like no. They would have been like, it's not, it's not. Peing is okay, but too messy, It's too messy. The things we remember, do you remember Paul Pierce in that wheelchair? The Big Three? The Lakers Celtics rivalry renewed, and of

course the game six kg yelling out anything is possible? Incredible. Uh, I mean things we may have forgotten. The Celtics tried to loure Reggie Miller out of retirement to join this team. They did have some og vets they at Eddie House, Scott Pollard, Sam Sam Cassell, shout out j Brown too. Lakers added Paul Gasol mid season. Paul Gasol was Hall of Famer phenomenal player. Is he in the Hall of Fame yet? He will be if he's not. Mark Gasol was part of the trade for people they didn't know.

I don't think they knew it was going to be Mark yet. I think was a pick that turned out to be Mark. Is it savage to be traded for your brother? I mean, I'm pretty sure Doc traded his son. Didn't he trade his son out of him? Succession level? Shit? You trade your own son and then you better win the championship if you trade your son. I think my dad could trade me. Really yeah, if I wasn't producing,

my biological father released me already. Hear that. I know it works great, Dad's it worked out great for me. What do you got, Jack? Yeah? Doc Rivers traded Austin Rivers from the Clippers to the Wizards in twenty eighteen. Some cold blooded shit. Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do, what's best for the team. Okay, son, you're you're dead weight. You're going to the Wizards. Uh. The Gaming Corner presented by win bet so the prop bet how many times can we get Paul to mention Brian Scalabrini.

That's a good one. What do you think too? It's he was like twelve man on that team, but he was. I mean, Scalabrini was fun as hell. We all love the videos of him fucking up dudes who say they could beat him one on one and then seeing how good an NBA player is and Scal just fucking them up. Yeah, he's always around Boston. Can you think two is a good number? Yeah, we could do. I mean I don't. I think you'll probably call him like a different nickname like scal That's fine. Yeah, I mean we can get

him to mention him twice, that's good. How many times can Julian say? Ain't that the truth? Can we go three on that? What do you think? What do you think? Three? Four, four five, twenty five? Two point five? Two point five? All right? I think said twenty five, Like, man, this is gonna be a bad interview. Ain't that the truth? At a certain point to just go can you stop

saying that? Ain't that the truth? Before we hear from our guest Paul Pierce, let's take a quick break, and we're here on games with names presented by When Bett and we're joined by my partner in crime, literally, figuratively, in every kind of way you can think. Paul Pierce, thank you for coming, Thank you for coming. On. What's up, my boy? What's going on? How you been man? I'm just out here lounging in this good California eighty degree weather son. Yeah, I mean, I know, I miss it already.

It's fifty and rainy here in New York. Fifty and rainy. It's not that bad. Come on, it was York slander on this pod. It wasn't too bad. It wasn't too bad. We can have two Boston sports legends and you have. Have you trash in New York on this podcast? Come on, as you can see he's in New York. We always go trash New York exactly. You did enough to me as a Knicks fan, Paul, Come on, I mean, Boston legend, ten time All Star, NBA Champ Finals MVP, most importantly

born in the Bay. Yeah you Bay baby kid. I am too. Grew up in Inglewood, went to Kansas Rookie of the Year in ninety eight, ten time All Star, Yeah, NBA Champion Finals MVP. His numbers hanging in the Rafters at the garden they call him the truth? Is that the best nickname in the NBA? You think I think it is. It's got to be up there. There's some good ones, though. The answer is pretty good. The answer magic, Yeah, Larry Legend. But look, it's not easy to get a nickname.

You know, everybody don't got one. If you got a nickname, that means you're doing something right. I had to give myself a nickname. They call me the Squirrel because I like squirrels. So hey, hey, hey, hey, what yeah crazy? We got Paul. So you guys are literally partners in crime, which you glossed over. But you did both get arrested together, right, No, well, technically it was a citizen citation arrest. I mean, you can't even hood slide anymore. Starts getting hood should slide.

I mean, Paul was right there. This I would alwin Paul, do you remember it? Duh? I'm gonna tell you this. That was the weakest hood slide ever. You didn't even make it all as I was like, you like slid and then stopped in the middle. I was like, oh nah, it was my jeans. There was no slide. There was too much friction. I couldn't. Just like in the movies, they clearly whax those cars. They're wearing like some kind of nylon pant, me wearing straight jeans. Go over there

and I kind of stuck. Homeboy gets out of car, waves down a cop. They start hemming me up. Paul's over there. Paul had my back. Though Paul had my back, He's like, nah, he get off. He didn't do shit, He didn't do shit. Nah. Look it was Look, first of all, it was like, all right, we were speck at a restaurant doing Remember it was a stick up

or something. It was a robbery. Yeah, And it was like we were stuck at a restaurant, couldn't leave, and they were already like twenty five cops like right there anyway, were the cops that just hit pumped to meet both of you. It was like, uh, I look, I thought it was nothing. Dump. I was just like, ah, but if you had to I think if you had to, if you had to land at the slide, it wouldn't have been nothing. But since you scared and stopped, it

was a thing. That's probably exactly what it was. But what he's failing to tell you is we were on our way to leave and we couldn't leave the place for two and a half hours. So what did we do. We just drank tequila all night long. We get done right, we think we get out of it scot free. We go back to the house. We're over here like, it's not on TMZ, it's not out. We're having the best night of our life. We go out and we're playing one on one basketball at SOHO house. People are over

here like, what's going on. We're having the times of our life. Wake up in the morning to three hundred text messages from my agent this that it was welcome to the club. Uh, you know, I had my one Internet moment, welcome to the club. Hey, I started the club. I feel like I feel like Paul versus you and basketball is not a fair No, it wasn't. It wasn't he was he was. It was bad out about that. We're like, no, we're like in the kitchen doing moves

on each other or something. Remember we were doing that at Soho. Remember, like in the middle of the place, dunking on like uh, like the the chandeliers and stuff. People are sitting here like, is that Paul Pierce and Julian Edelman playing basketball without a basketball in a restaurant. Uh so, Paul, we want to talk to me. And this is like the year the Big Three came together. This was kind of like, in my lifetime, kind of

the first super team. You know, like people we'll talk about the Celtics and the sixties being a super team, but this was like you were a franchise guy. KG was a franchise guy. Ray was a franchise guy. You're all kind of around the same age ish, right like around thirty ish. We all kind of as a Knicks fan, I hated the Celtics, but I respected all you so much for just carrying franchises and being loyal to those franchises.

Like these were trades, These weren't free agency things. We're like, well, how jacked up were you to go from the worst team in the league to being like, oh shit, we have championship hopes. Man. You know, that was an interesting summer because we had the worst record and it was just like my career was in limbo. It was like,

I gonna get traded. What are we gonna do? We up for the number one pick, and the number one pick, as you all know, uh should have been the Ramt, but it was Grand Odin and I was just like, you know, the subjects are headed in a different direction. I'm in like my eighth or ninth year and in the middle of a re build, and you know, things just we did get the first pick, then the trade was made, but for Ray. Then we traded for Kevin,

and it were just like whoa. It happened so fast that it was just like, you know, it was like going from a Corolla to a Ferrari night I like those, unless Corola wants to sponsor this, in which case your cars are awesome as well. But uh no, dude. I remember watching that being like, oh, the Celtics are gonna win. I remember just thinking like I know, when when stars come together, but like you guys fit well together, like when Lebron and Wade one reason together dogs every one

of them were dogs. But when Lebron and Wade go together, like they both kind of are like they do kind of similar things, you know, whereas like Ray's just this great shooter, You're this great scorer. KG is an anchor who can score like you. Guys all kind of fit different needs, right right. That's why it was like The perfect Storm was what we call it. We call it the perfect Storm. We had other nicknames that people didn't know about. We were not only the Big Three. We

were called the Holy Trinity. We were called the Perfect Storm. So these are nicknames that went under the rug. But everybody just chose to use the Big Three the Holy Trinity. Can you explain that to two Jewish people please? Right here? Oh, thank you, thank you. Half a star of David bab Okay, that's half, but uh so, I mean that team was stacked, and then you have role players added, guys who are like killers, like little young Young Rondo, who's you know,

a killer? James Posey, Eddie House, big Baby, Tony Allen, Tony Allen. People forget damn. He was another one, y'all. If we had had a team fight with anybody in the league, Perkins, we would have beat everybody up. See dogs, And that's and that's a perfect that's a perfect team for Boston, you know, just a tough town, you know, not that doesn't need to be like bright light, you know Broadway shows. Give us like a Celtics game, a Patriots game, a Bruins game, Go get a hot dog

at a socks game. You know, it's just different in Boston. Yeah, it's just different. Man. I was just talking about somebody the other day. I need to go to a SOCE game and give me one of those one of those Italian sausages right there right outside thirty. Dude, I miss That's That's what I miss already so much, just being around the city. It was a dope city. How do you?

How do you transform though? Born in the Bay, grew up in La huge Lakers fan as a kid, and then you become probably one of the biggest pieces of one of the the Boston Celtics. Like you're you are in the rafters, you are a goat of the Celtics. Like, how did when you first got there? What were you feeling? Like? Were you mixed emotions on this man? It was like it was real mixed emotions because but one, I didn't

even work out for the Celtics. It was just like I thought I was gonna be in the top five Celtics. Wasn't even on my radar. But then it was just like they picked me, and I was just like, man, it's hard. You know, you you're happy to get drafted, so you in the draft room and you're like, Okay, I'm about to be one of the top picks, and you're like you're you're happy where you go. But for me, when I got picked by the Celtics, it was like happy to get drafted. But then it was just like huh.

It was like uh, it was like almost like that fake smile. It was like like what like what just happened kind of moment, But because it was just like, damn, I'm really gonna find out who my friends are really, who gonna really come to the game, and where that Celtic jersey being at all my friends are from La. You know who's gonna ride or die with your boy Pete Peete. So that's when I really found out who my true friends was. Did you lose a lot of

those friends or did you have some day ones? And I invited one of my voys to the Laker game, right he rolled up in the Kobe jersey. Man, he came into Kobe jersey. I could not believe that. That's rough. I put him rock in the front wrong, like what, oh man, come on man, what are we doing? Thats messed up? Oh man? I never gave him any more.

Tevus to a game. He can't, he's gone, he's banned. Now, yeah, what's up with you know obviously Kobe, you got any crazy competitive stories of that of that series against him, Man, Kobe is always like to call certain people just hand made. It was he was different. It was just like you

couldn't shake him. You couldn't rattle them, if you notice, in that series, and they got pictures of this since these times me rodn Per getting his face talking ship to him and like he's just looking like with this real stoic look, like who are y'all? Like, what are y'all? Who? Like, what have y'all done? Like? And it was just like, dude, you cannot get him out of his game. But then like being away from him, away from the game of basketball, where I you know, I had a chance to be

around them quite a few times. Either a total different person, you're not. You know, him and Kevin are similar because you look at Kevin and people are intimidated by him and you see this guy, sweating person and competitive. But then off the court, man, it was some of the nicest people you want to be around. And it's just like it's amazing how they flip the switch from the basketball person to this to walk around, you know, Dad, in between it's in between the lines, you know, And

those are the greats. Those those kind of guys had to create stories in their head or or manipulate their mind to get the best kind of play. I was, you know, I get that. That's how mommies, you know, Tom, Like, dude, you don't have to be mad at the kid in eighth grade that started over you in basketball. I think you're doing but you do because that's still mad about it, and he he still will probably try to fight this

guy or compete against the sea. And you see Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, He's like, still mad at dudes where were Like, you're Michael Jordan, you did okay. But it's what fuels the greats, I think is like you hold on the ship, you know. Similarities in the two and those are the grades of the Mount Rushmore of sports. And they share a lot of exciting characteristics. They do the same, They share a lot of the same characteristics

to women. I date, they can't get over things there uh no. Uh but uh so this I have to say as a hoops fan, just as someone who loves and respects basketball players. I'm happy that it seems like you guys patch stuff up with Ray Allen. That was just it bummed me out as a sports fan because left us bro Yeah, left us. It was a tough breakup. But you know, as we all know, time hills wounds. And I'm happy that he was able to tend kg's retirement ceremony and uh we can do it in front

of our national crowd and they can see that. You know, you know, the beef is over. You know we did something special together, and uh we'll always be faundly. But but you know what I love about Boston sports, you know, like me and and l and you know Big Poppy is just like when you play in Boston, it's like we family because we all go to each other games, we all support each other. I don't really see that in other cities. I think, you know, especially La people

go to the case to be seen. It was just like my spot one of them out. I'm like, well, so it's like we've known each other for years and it's just it's it's like something about the board Boston sports family. It's like one big family. For example, like me and me Paul knew of each other We probably saw each other at events and stuff, but it wasn't until I got arrested when we bonded. That was when we really bonded. Recreate this in Boston because no Boston

cop is going to touch either of you. Now, that's how you recreate it can't but you can't. But so let's let's shift to this game. Game one. We know it is the wheelchair game. We know it is Paul leaving the game incredible. There's a lot of story. Are you smiling? Maybe you might have heard some of the rumors, Paul? Why are you smiling? Paul? It was an iconic moment, you know. So you know, people don't have their various stories about it, and that's fine. People are going to

create their own narrative. Do you think the pooping the pants rumor helps or hurts the mythos of the of the series? I mean, they trying to put a black mark on it. Everybody, come on, So I looked at every TV angle that you possibly could. You guys were wearing the white unis okay, And as a professional athlete, I know we have to has so many electrolytes that when you ship there's gonna be some squirting, so you would have saw a squirt mark. He did not ship

his fucking pants, Guys, his pants. He hurts me, and then he miraculously came out and fucking scored and won the game for him. We're gonna watch this like the JFK tapes to make sure this didn't happen. But no around and on the ground. If I did, like who does that, wouldn't that be kind of disgusting. I'm glad that we were clearing this up. Okay, this is coming from him, guys. He would not lie to me. No, the only shit that I did was on the Lakers exactly.

You come back and you guys are down for right, so you come back in the game down for What are you thinking? Man, I'm just feeling the energy from the crowd. You know. I get to the back, I put the knee brace on my knee is kind of loose, and the diagnostis the injury was a straight maniscus. We can clear it up, which it was for the whole series, and you know people do that in sports, but then you can still play on it, especially gentlemen. Yeah, I mean it's the finals. I'm like, I might not ever

get this opportunity again. I'm coming off, I'm feeding off the crowd, and I'm like, I need to get back in this game. Because if you notice, I didn't even sit down when I came back. I went like straight to the straight to the score table to check right back in and the dreddler was there, and I was just like, I gotta be out here, and you know, then Rondo got me going, we got we got the ball, pushing it on the brake, I'm open from three. I just was like, I was just like, I'm gonna let

it ride. And then the momentum just shifted, and h that was an amazing feeling, because you know, they were they were a tough team. When you got Kobe Bryant, the all time great, one of the greatest to ever do it on one side, and everybody knows when you've got a player of that caliber, anything happened, you know. And we're in Boston, so we can't lose at home. Man, come on to the Lakers and they, you know, gasol owed them. It is a tough LA team that you're

going against. Do you think this shifted the momentum for the whole series? Like you coming in, it seemed like you guys had so much momentum after that. Well, yeah, because like when I rewatch it, it's like, if I'm hurting, I'm out for the series. You got to understand. Out of the when I went down, the air out of the building left. So it's like, dang, if Paul Pierce is done for the series or out for any amount of time, the chances of us being the Lakers goes down.

And so when I come back, that momentum to be like, Oh, he's out there, he's playing, he's not injury. We got him, We were back, We're back forming bull Tron. Man, it gave the city and the fans so much of a lift to know that I was going to be back and I was out there that it just carried over for the rest of the series. Yeah. Well, Paul, we have a note here that you refer to yourself as the Rodney Dangerfield of basketball. Did this put some respect

on your name after this? Ain't that the truth? Yeah? Man, just no respect, you know, and that's all good. Hey, everybody came where you know, you know, some of us got to wear the black hat, and I'm fine with that. You know, Hey, Paul, haters are gonna hate. Players are gonna play. Like Taylor Swift said, you just gotta shake it off, shake it off. You know it? Man? Man, I love y'all set up in there. Man, what y'all got? What's on that won? Right? We got everything. We need

a picture of you. If you sent a signed jersey, we'll fucking put you right right up here. Look, look, we need to put that picture of me you from that night Jack Sam, can we get that done? We are definitely going to put that up there. I love it. It's you. Remember that though that we thought we got away Scott Free. No one knew it. What was what was the big ticket? Like as a motivator like I just as a spectator, his energy just seemed insane. He just seemed like a dude I would want to go

to war with. Was he just amazing in huddles? I mean not only huddles, but I'm talking about practice. Right when you come to practice, I know all the young guys, but if KG walk into the locker room, we better not see none of the young guys sitting down at the locker. They better be in the way room. They better be either in the training room or on the

court getting some pre pre practice shots up. You know what I'm saying, Well, eating a loud for no lolly gagging, and and it was just like, man, let me tell you this one story. So this is pre season. The season after started, so KG, everybody's in town like September. We all playing pickup games and one of the rookie didn't have his shoes, so he looking around. He grabbed a pair of KG shoes right, and he balled in them for the pickup game. So KG gets to the gym,

he like, where are my shoes at? And I'm looking like, oh, yeah, no the rookie didn't put him back. Oh this is gonna be bad. Man. Let me tell you that was the worst year for this guy. And then I think he eventually got traded. I mean he was on K. You don't want to be on KG bad side. That's a like, don't grab somebody else's shoes because it's a lot of guys wear the same size, but don't grab at G shoes And he come in looking for them and you got them on, Like, come on, isn't it.

Isn't this the National Basketball Association? Don't we have like shoes galore in our locker? Rooms. That's what I'm saying. This rookie. I don't know what he thought. He just was like, I'm gonna grab KG shoes like anybody kgs Why that's like basically like taking Deebo's chain, just ganking chain, saying nah, that's that's not gonna happen. I remember we were together and he facetimed KG and I can't really I don't remember what he said, but I just remember

the feelings I had. I wanted to run through the fucking phone like he motivated me where I was like, dude, let's go, let's go do something right now, like let's go fucking I want to play basketball. I don't even know how to play basketball, but I'll fucking go play with this guy. No, it's on it's on the record. Taking KG shoes is the equivalent of killing John Wick's dog. That's basically where we're at. Straight up, you just don't

do it. Absolutely not so so this series, like when you win this series, because I mean, we're talking about this game, but it's really this series, because this was epic. This was I mean, you think it's good for basketball to have the rivalries. And I remember after that championship. You said you feel like the best player in the league. And what I mean did you feel that way where You're like, was that just like talking ship? Did you really think like I, I feel like I can play

with anybody? Was your confidence just like? Up here? Man? Come on, Hires, you just come off a playoff series where you go total toe with Lebron, you beat the bad boys Pistons, and you go total toe with Kobe? How you post to feel? How you? I agree, Kobe all time deep ist? I mean, how do you post to feel like? I just beat up Hawk, the Hawk and thrower in the in in one year? What I'm sposed to feel a lot the way you feel? For sure, I'm saying. So, I'm like when people saying, like, what

is he talking about? Man speaks truth? You want to call him the truth and the truth. Hey, we got a picture Red our bock up here. You got my man Red up there? Yeah? You got you were around him right early in your career. Yeah, I gotta be fictioning Red man, cool guy. You know, we always knew Red was in the building. Cigar smoke, you know. And I sit in the locker room, I put my socks on I'm getting ready to warm up and while you start smelling the cigar, and I'm just like, okay, Red

is here. He was the only one in the NBA I was allowed to smoke a cigar indoors. You watching that Showtime Show or the Have you seen that at all? I haven't watched it yet. I've been hearing about it. You've been watching it. It's pretty fun. It's fun. You'll probably love it because it's you know, that's your generation ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to check it out. I've been waiting for it to end so I could just kind of like binge watch it. But I heard it some good stuff

in there. I heard it's entertaining. It's entertaining. It's entertaining. Some liberties are taking I think they do Jerry West little dirty. But then Jerry West saying he'll take this to the Supreme Court is exactly what Jerry West and that show would have done, so he's got to not say that. But uh, but they do Jerry West a little dirty in the show. Jerry's a legend. You can't you can't do him dirty like that. But yeah, it's worth a watch. Yeah, I gotta check that out. So

red Aarbach. Any other early Celtics memories, because I mean, I remember those early days. I loved watching you guys with Antoine Walker and Kenny Anderson. Those were fun teams. Or any memories of those teams, Oh man, I loved playing with that team. Antwine, me and Twine Man. People forget that me and him used to shoot threes like

they shoot now. It was like Twan used to shoot ten threes a game and people was like criticizing them for but I'm like, that's the norm now, That's what the big men are doing though, And he's my favorite quote from an Twine was like, well he said when they asked them, why do you shoot so many three poin and as you know what he said, because they don't have four pointers. After after, you guys, go beat these dudes up and beat l A, Boston l A. How was the celebration? I was a parade. The parade

was lit. I remember, uh we were where was we at? Man? We were having drinks and the champagne. And I remember getting on the dug boat and were riding around the city and I had a cigar and I don't I don't, I would never I don't think I was smoking cigars at the time, and I just remember like I got a hairbrush and I went back into the dug boat and threw up like it was crazy, but it was that was that was that was a time right there. Man. I mean, it's nothing like going around the city. You

see people hanging out the windows street lands. Oh man, So you guys pretty much revolutionized. You guys are the original super team. Well you' it's arguable that that's you guys are the reason Lebron did it, right. Yeah, Unfortunately we started something crazy and then as you see after that Lebron that you've seen the Golden State Wars, they took it to the next level with super teams. They went super super team on everybody. Yeah, we started a trend.

But you know, I think you know, the balance of power is back, but you know, we we we started a trend at the time that it was like, wow, what did we create in the NBA? What did we do? But it was fun. It was fun when their favorite players played together were what that looked like? And uh, you know, I'm happy that I had a chance to play with two all time greats. You guys are kind of like social media you know, you guys invented something. Everyone's like, oh, this is great. We get to internet

with friends from twenty years ago. And then also we give people that have an opinion. Everyone gets an opinion now, and everyone's gonna hate on you and everyone, you know what I mean. So you guys are, but they didn't get you guys didn't get the hate for I think other reasons. I think like you guys had all kind of carried franchise that weren't winning on your own, and I think people wanted to think it is the way

we came together was different. You know. It was to pray, you know now it was like, oh, I'm a free agent. I'm gonna go play over there with them. We lest create our all ours kind of like had to be manufactured, you know, it had to be organically done. It was just like everybody else was just like put together. They had the pieces that they just put together and went over here. Oh they were given they were given kg

no help in Minnesota at all. I mean watching him play at that intensity on a team where they just weren't giving him weapons was tough to watch. You know, how would you guys been nowadays? What me and Kevin, how would this team do in this generation? Oh man, we're gonna crush this era. Come on, man, we got the shooting, we got indoors, we got inside gay outside game, my game perfect with this Asda's Kevin and SODA's Ray. Yeah, I'm watching Ray, watching Ray do some of these shots.

He didn't shoot the volume of threes that you see guys shooting out. Neither of you. It was a different game. But like if you guys were jacking threes, I totally agree. I think this team would be so good in the modern embody. We would adjust with this error because we all was you know, Ray was really good through poet shooters, because shoot. By the time I went out into my career, I was fourced all time at three pointers base, which a lot of people didn't know, and Ray was was first.

So if you want to talk about playing in this are we would have did just fine. You could. I just always remember I would always go to the games and see Paul playing sit on the court, and he'd always just have the nastiest grimey finishes guy on him and wond them. Then he started talking that shit, give a fucking give one of these to the crowd, crowds going pee pee pee. It was just you know what, I don't see. I don't see the emotion from the

players like that. No more, man, I don't s I like when you know, you know, when guys getting all getting the crowded too. It the crowd feel that they feed off of that. Everyone. John Moran seems like he's bringing some of that energy back. He plays with a lot of energy. I think, who are guys that are you watching now? Who you're like? Oh? I like that dude a lot. He would have been great in my error?

Who are dudes like that? Man? Giannis ante tacunpo? He is straight mean the way he dunck on people in the flexes, muscles and just be looking with that ground. He'd be like, whoa holdroll vic Bella, he's me. He can play in the air. He monster too. That euro step Yeah that's unreal. Who anyone else? Let me see, I'm gonna say, of course, Lebron he can play in any era. Went tough, but like that intensive we talked about the intense think about with young Westbrook, him young

with Oklahoma City Westbrook, Yeah, that was different. How do you feel about how disrespected he got this year. I feel like he really got. He was made the scapegoat for Los Angeles. I don't think it was really fair. Yeah, I don't think it's he looking for a scapegot. But there's a lot of people that that's the blank for this.

But at the end of the day, Westbrook is an all time great player, don't you remember top seventy five, and so you know La always looking the point that they had, always got to point the finger at somebody. So he was the scapegoat exactly. Well, Paul, thank you so much for joining us. Man. Anything we missed about this game before before we wrap up, anything about this series that you want to add before we go, And last confirmation, it was not a shit guys. It's not

all you fucking people in here. Everyone in this we had a hope, We have a whole We have like a little stand of people. They're always here talking about like, hey, I think penned so I'm like, nah, he would never sh his pants. It's Paul Pierce. Man. Everybody just mad that we beat they you know, favorite team, that song, you know, Boston, we wanted that, We wanted the more hated sports cities anyway, because we win so much. So you know that's just what it's gonna be. And I'm

cool with that. Everyone can't be winners. Yeah, come on now, you know it's but the NIX will rise again. Uh, not in our lifetime, buddy, Not in our lifetime, Paul, I gotta hit you up when I get out there. I'll be out there soon. We gotta get up. We I mean, we always say it. Can we fucking do this now? Or what? Have some dinner, some breaks, hang out, Let's do it. Thank you, appreciate you man, Thank you man, Thanks for doing this always love. Always hit me up

if you ever need anything. All right, my boy? All right, bro, he's wow. Paul Pierce legend, no filter there, he's I mean, he's awesome. The truth. I knew it was gonna be a great interview when he rolled up with a hookah. That's the hookahs. Probably why we failed on the prop bets, because we were probably distracted by the swag to come on here pool side with chocolate mint hookah. I mean chocolate mint more of a great mint hookah. I got

myself great mint. Great men. I don't know why, but when you go like, I got some friends and they're from like Europe, and people from Europe love hookah, yeah, or like Israel, a lot of hookah like hookers are there there hookers? Yeah? No, yeah, I did, but they always mix a fruit with mint and it actually it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Not gonna lie that. It takes me back to when I had a fake ID or even pre fake id'ed. That was like the place

that wouldn't card you to get booze. Yeah, who's classic, And I mean that's like a power move to have it in your house. I got. I got a couple of hookahs. You have hookah at home. I had a friend that's we houkahed one time and they sent a me a hookah. It's a badass hookah too. It's just a fun thing to have around, like to socialize with. People love it. You get your own little hose. Everyone has their little cap so we keep it COVID friendly. You get to mix up different like flavors. You try

to explain how you got COVID to your wife. It was from a hookah. I got it from a hookah. What was that we failed to get Paul to mention Brian Scalabrini at all. That was that was on us. Did we get did we get? They? Ain't that the truth? Jack? I think we ended up under we only had two and a half or two? Yeah we had two? Yeah that's weak. Who was Was this the beginning of the Super Team era? I'd say absolute? Yeah, I mean this is what started at NBA. Danny Ainge, you know, whatever

you think of him, he was. He was a good GM for Boston. I like Danny Age. I got to hang around him a little bit when I was with the Celtics for a while. You could just tell he's a competitive guy. Does anything. He's an old school guy that like probably it took he had to go to the long road, the herd. He was just always like a tough You could just tell whenever he was talking to guys he was competitive. You know, would you remember

anything he said to you? He was. He was always kind of you know, trying to feel me out on how we did things in New England, you know, and and sometimes you know it'd be it wouldn't we wouldn't see eyed eye on something, and he would, you know, he could see that he was like competing while while we were talking about him, like oh dude, thank you for letting me be here. But that's just kind of guy he is. He's competitor. Yeah, you get that with some of these old school guys in a winner. He

was a winner, a winner from his playing days. Cool to get to do it with your old with your old franchise. I will say, we didn't mention this, but getting Garnett for what he shipped out that was a little That was a little gift from his old teammate Kevin McHale who was the GM in Minnesota. That was not an even That was insane that they got Kevin Garnett for like Al Jefferson and some moving parts, you know, but hey, it worked. You got to keep those relationships tight.

He kept them tight. But favor is owed. It was he owes him a favor. I don't know what it is, but this was Kobe's revenge era. Following this series of Lakers going to win the two thousand and nine and ten finals. This is the Kobe Gasol partnership. This is that started. And you know, so I think the Lakers won the following year against Orlando and then they beat the Celtics, so there was that rivalry popped off again.

So I thought I was at the winning one. Actually I was at the losing one, damn, So maybe I maybe I cursed him. No, dude, no, it was Uh probably won't be allowed back over at the garden. As long as you win one, the experiment works. I think I think it's this is one of some many sports romances. Obviously KG and Pierce, Kobe Gasol, Julian and Tom Brady. We got a bromance. We do, but it's you know, relationships have their up and downs. You know, I don't

know if we're at a high right now. He's playing still, I'm not. I'm podcasting your money. Your my new bromance. Dude, I'm honored. This is I'm gonna make Pop and Tim Duncan. Yeah, that was a bromance for sure. There are Pop coach. Pop's a legend unsung hero. KG had twenty four in Game one, largely just a monster in the final. You know, KG is the defensive anchor, just tenacity. Yeah, he just brings an attitude that not on my court, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, like a beast. He's he's

we were talking about. He's one of those guys that like visualize the ship, like to type him up, like he'll he'll take some ship from back in the past that happened to him, and he'll he'll explain it to himself. Right before a player or a game. You'd see him over hitting the posts and stuff. You remember, that's what the grades do. They're like, this guy fucked my mom. Yeah, I'm gonna mess him up. Remember remember the what was that movie? Uh, the water Boy? Yes, water Boy, but

also like what was another one? It really really sucks. That's how you psych yourself up. You gotta psych up, gotta psych up. Yeah. Right, the way you talk about ray Lewis and his motivational speeches, I kind of see that in KG straight war dance guy, but his war dance like he just fierce. He's a teammate you want he's like that, you know, like we always had like the like the Willie McGinnis, the tough guy that kind of keeps things in order. After hearing that story about

you know, the rookie taking his shoes like that ain't happening. No, that was amazing. I got some stories we'll get we'll get we'll get McGinnis on here and we'll get some real good stories out of him. We'll save that for the future about him regulating the locker room. But that's definitely what Katie did Taul Pierce's underwear. I mean that he what he could do was just sell an underwear with skid marks on it and makes so much money.

I'd buy him. I'd sniff him, dude. Now, would it be like a perfectly like symmetrical like skid mark or would it be like like it's a real skid mark. You take a baby, Ruth, you leave it out for an hour in the sun, you smear it. You're making money on eBay. Some Boston lunatic is buying this. Yeah, that's definitely donated the proceeds to Saint Jude's or something, and that way you're a hero. No one's talking about Paul Pierce poop in his pants, are like this guy

mass General or mass General is amazing guy. Hey poop and all. He didn't poop it, though he wants to lay that out there, he did not poop. And we did some forensic looking at this, yes I did. I looked at every angle. Like I said, we brought an experts. We spent thousands of dollars trying to get to the bottom of this and we have he did not. He did not poop, right, Jack didn't. Didn't you do an intense study on this. No poop found in the undies. No poop found in the undies. When it comes to Jack,

you know, we did. We did talk about this picture, Sam, can you or here we go, Kyler. We got this picture, the infamous amazing, the infamous night me ray or me paul in Dola. We'll leave it at that classic we got. We gotta get down the wall, we gotta put it. We'll hang it up. So that looks like the start to have like a Hangover movie right there. Yeah, it was start. Looks amazing. Waking up to about five hundred text messages from people you don't always want to hear from. True. Yeah,

that's not good, not good, but it was good. It's learning, learning experience. You gotta wear you gotta wear non friction pants if you're gonna do a hood slide, right, non friction pants. You can't have jeans. I need some polyester or something. Let's get someone sending some polyester to the Games with Name Studio. So Julian can do the classic the way Jackie Chan does in the Rush Hour movies. He just jumps over the Oh he makes it look badass. You know. He does all his stunts too crazy. Yeah,

I don't think he's known for acting. I think he's acting. It's amazing. I love Jackie Jane. He's a good actor, but he's you know, but he's like great, Yeah, he's like that's what he's known for. He's gotta do with stunts. He's amazing at the Do you ever see like the old Police Story movies are insane? Yeah? That's like, didn't they say on one of Jackie Chang got beat up by Bruce Lee? What? Yeah? On like Isaac is there is there something on that? Or he may have been

an extra on a on a Bruce Lee movie? True? Yeah, that's amazing. I think it's fully true. Wow, But I don't know, jack do we forget anything? We? Uh? Jules, you corrected yourself. You were at the twenty ten finals and the KG trade Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Theo, Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair and two first round picks in two thousand. That's nothing, though, get to first round picks. You got KG. That guy is a he's a mortgage the future. That's that's a fair trade. I don't think. I mean KG

is he's a franchise game changer. Who did they get with those first picks? That's a good question. A look that that will explain, that'll really tell the tale. But I don't think Starberry. No, that was way before I know. But you remember that team that was That was Starberry was pissed that KG got paid and wanted out. Yeah, he got the fattest contract in the in the NBA. They were such a tandem. Yeah they were. They were. I mean they were awesome together. They were on the

hoop it Up game together, Yeah, they were. They went back. No you or what was that NBA jams? Oh that's a good NBA jam team? Yeah, it was him, and I think it was him and Shrubberry. You need someone quick and someone who can block shots. You got. Those are the two right there. But wasn't it also Penny and Shack? I think was it? I think because those were old games, those were fucking class nineties. I was always the Starks and youing guy that those were my two.

I was always a created player guy, were you? Yeah, I would do creative player and I'd make my guy with the wolfhead and I'd have my number. I would have twenty one at the time when I was a kid, because I love Dion Sanders, and I'd always named my guy Jay Dog. And that's only because my brother used to call his his guy Jay Dog, and I always thought it was pretty cool. Jay Dougs, I'm gonna start calling you Jay Dog. You remember that was like a

thing in the nineties. You just that the letter and dog. It worked. Looks like they picked Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn. Ricky Rubio draft had Steph. Yeah, well, Ricky Rubio had some good years. He's still pretty good. But Johnny Flynn, Syracuse guy. I remember that he had a high They took him over Steph Curry if I remember correctly, that's correct. Not a good pick. Yeah, no disrespect to Johnny Flynn.

Terrific college player. Steph Curry's top twenty all time. Yeah, could be lower, could be lower, I mean, but when it's all said and done, he will be lower. But I mean he's revolutionized the game. Fucking Do you know Steph at all? We've met a couple times at the SPS. Yeah, he's such a just a great guy. He's amazing. He does it right, you know, he's great man on great man off family man. But he's like a Matthew Slater type. Yeah, just a great dude. Yeah, he can't. He cannot root

for those guys. It's hard not to. I always I tend to go for the underdog in the NBA, and they just are always you know, the pick, they're always just so they're so good. I get that, But it's like you guys, I mean, when you sustain greatness. It's like the Patriots. It's hard to root for a team that's that's just a well oil machine like they are. And it's similar, you know, yeah it is, but you know, it's just when you when you see the individual accolades.

Because I I was a Warriors fan growing up my whole life. Like the Bulls too, because we weren't really that good early nineties nineties. We had some good teams and fun teams run TMC. You had the Tim Hardaway, very well mulling teams. Those are pretty cool. Those were fun. Yeah, but you know when they got when they became super team, super duper team. Yeah that's what what did what did

Ray call them? He said they were or Paul I keep on calling him we talked about ray Lewis and we're gonna have to cut some of that Warriors Celtics Finals. Who do you root for? I gotta go to Celtics right now, right just because I once once they went super duper team. I moved to Boston and once you're in that that town, you know, you're always rooting for everyone. You know, you're you're rooting for the Socks, You're rooting for the Bruins. You want to see the city do well. Yeah,

and uh, you know I've and that. That was like I experienced basketball. I didn't go to like Warriors games growing up. It was a little far. We were really football baseball guys family. You know, I started going to Celtics games, like I started going to basketball games a lot when I went to Boston. So that's when I kind of learned to like love a team or like a team, you know what I mean? Do you root for the guys? And then they let me in so and they've been so gracious to me as an organization.

Shout out to my girl McKenzie. She's always hooking me up with awesome tickets, Like, you know, they let me in that in you know, when I was suspended and then let me use their facility. So I'm a Celtics guy. Who do you ever sit next to, like any Boston legends of those games? A little Wahlberg, a little Damon Casey Affleck, what do we got? No? Usually go teammates, you go teammates. You know, it's kind of it's like a it's like a chemistry thing. It's a bondage. You

got to do some stuff. Bondage. Yeah, you know, bondage. It's like bds M. Yeah, it's like you know that. What uh? I remember I was at a Knicks game once with my friend Anthony DeVito and we're sitting behind Tracy Morgan and it was nick Celtics, and for whatever reason, Michael Beasley for the Knicks just went off. He had the game of his life. For the Necks, he like already eight the next one, And every time Michael Beasley scored, Tracy Morgan would just turn behind to us and go,

real animals eat meat. And we were like, hell, yeah, dude, just hyping us up. Tracy Morgan don't know what he means because I think there are you know, there's omnivores out there. But it was, you know, I was all in. I love the new thing modern day athlete going plant base that isn't would you have ever done that? Or no, you're too much of a foudy. I'm a foodie, but when I was playing, I would I would limit like, I would eat all like the plant based stuff, and

I would just add protein to it. But I like the taste of that earthy, earthy taste and it does give you good energy. But you know, we I think we had two vegans on our team when I was there. Really, Yeah, Well Tom's got that that now a healer diet though, Yeah, but he still eats meat, yeah, I think, or not or fish or chick. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. Maybe he does, maybe he is anything anything else. We left out jack Yeah, real quick, we got Phil Jackson.

We talked about his time in the next front office. He ended up winning. He actually won in seventy and seventy three as a player. The Paul Pierce KG trade to Brooklyn ultimately ended up getting the Celtics Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, Kobe Bryant. We talked about his languages. Spoke Italian, Spanish, English, and a little bit of Mandarin, Mandarin Jesus and then was Kobe was an incredible guy.

He's like a renaissance man. He was, and you felt that when he spoke, like when he spoke to our team when I you know, I told us about that. We talked about that earlier. But I mean that's Mandarin. I'm more of a Cantonese guy. Remember Wayne's World. Zang excellent. His girlfriend was Cantonese, right. I always remember Zang was excellent because he always excellent. Waynsworld is so good? Oh, such a classic? Holds up? Just rewatch it? I did.

I watched it recently. Damn Carrera was the comedy celler Ones and Uh I got a picture with her. I had a horrible haircut, but UH still got the pick. Uh didn't happen. She was he didn't get the pick. She was so nineties, all these classics true lies we talked about before. I mean, let's like she's in some banger nineties movies. Man, I always wanted a Licorice. Oh, the Spencer, the Spencer Badass and the Garth Mobile. You gotta let's score this thing or name let's name the game.

It's the wheelchair game. I think we can't call it the poop game. Now that we've done all this detective work, I think we gotta go wheelchair game. It's gotta be wheelchair game, the poop game. That sounds like a really bad porn genre, the poop game. Uh, what's your porn genre? My probably milf? How about you? I don't know, I don't know. You know, it's like, it's like cereal cereal. Sometimes you want Coco puffs, sometimes you want fruity pebbles.

Star Power either way, no matter what, it's bad for you is the point we're making here. Uh, stay, let's score it, Steaks, Let's score it. NBA Finals. It's game one, though, so I think you know you can't go. I mean, are we doing the whole series? Are we doing game one? Game one? Game one? So? I think steaks are like you're at home, so the stakes are high, but it's just game one. It's not the super Bowl. Where's yeah seven seven seven, This is like first quarter of a game. Yeah,

star power is high as hell. I go, Yeah, I mean this is this is like a nine to nine point five. Because you've got Kobe Gasol. I think there's at least five Hall of famers in this game, right, could be not to mention Phil. So that's six. Is Doc Rivers in the Hall of Fame as a coach? Maybe no, probably not borderline, but he's still he's still a star. Definitely had some star Park. I mean Kobe in there. He's Kobe's star. Yeah. Gameplay, it's a good game,

and forth, back and forth. They were down when Pierce came in. The energy. I mean, you got to go at least eight, age five, I think, right, yeah, lower, you're going lower, all right, I mean maybe eight eight? Yeah, let's go eight. Name the wheelchair game. I mean, geez, how mad are like you know, the Handicapped Olympics for US US right now because they do this all the time. You know, I've played with some of those handicapped basketball guys and the really brutal. They're really good. But those

guys are like tough man. They're banging and stuff. Oh my god, it's brutal. And they can they can shoot with like running star. It's incredible there. Their strength is so impressive of like upper body in it. It's fuck. It's insane how shredded they are, dude, you but it just it looks they're they're like, it's a rough game. Yeah, when they're up and there like eight para athletes, parathletes, it's amazing, it really is and inspiring. So name name is, we got, we got. We gotta dock it a little

because you know we're team Handicap seven Olympics. Yeah, we'll go seven. What's that a grand pretty good score? Here were seven eight seven eight seven five Yeah, it's pretty good ce plus yeah seven nine yeah, yeah c plus. It's a good game. Good game. But it wasn't It wasn't like a game set, you know what I mean. I mean the theatrics. We got to reserve the highest scores possible. Theatrics were there for sure. In Boston, La. You gotta give it like the stakes are big because

those two franchises hate each other, I think. But I think we scored it right. I think we definitely did well. That's all for this episode of Games with Names presented by win Bet. Thank you so much for listening. Again, Thank you to all our sponsors and guys. Remember you gotta follow us at Games with Names on all social platforms social media snapface as Bill would call it, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, wherever it is, we are there. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Samurail. Thanks for listening, guys,