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There was the recent survey that broke the internet. Yeah, talking about how many uncrustables NFL teams consume, which is like a small nation could eat that many.

We used to have like four different types of PB and j's our little lunch ladies. They would make these. Tom used to just eat. He would never eat the crust.

I remember that. I think he would just eat the white part of it and he'd leave the crust. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman.

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Day, Ahonika, the new year is coming here tonight. On today's episode, we are going to go back some of the greatest, funniest, best moments of all of our shows of last year. One of those cool memory episodes.

We walk down memory Lane.

We've had a great year.

Twenty twenty four was awesome. When we're celebrating twenty five four, and.

On today's episode, we're gonna reminisce going through some of our best moments. We'll start by reminiscing with the old Matt light Fellow check email.

I mean, I think broke the internet. That was so funny for you.

It's literally my prize possession. Yeah.

Then we'll get Terry Bradshaw getting into practice fight some of the funniest stories here in those old guys.

You may lose with me, you'll never win without you. Got that. Then we go with the legendary Ernie Adams.

When it's football now, I mean it's dead ass serious hundred every time.

So you got to stick around to the very end. Guys, Let's go Happy New Year.

Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. The year was twenty twenty four.

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Bowl Champs, NBA Champs, Oscar winners, team owners and wrestlers.

And we're still on the search for the greatest game of all time.

This is Games with the Best of four.

Twenty twenty four is a good year.

A lot of stuff happened started this year with some great episodes, had.

Some fun times and not fun times. Do you have a favorite moment.

A live show man? We sold out the waters. Yeah, that was incredible. We had Ernie Adams on here. What a before anyone had Ernie adams On. We went to Vegas, man, We've.

Been every Vegas.

Vegas.

We went to the Hamptons and hung out with his own house.

Ye to take on the road. Did Boston?

Boston Vegas?

Had the roast, was fun and having all yeah, the roast, blood sell and everyone light.

Great year, Nikki, Oh.

Great year, Jim Craig, miracle and ice.

Oh my gosh, do you believe?

Pitch Game? Danny devitou.

Cad me award winners in here.

I just keep on seeing those windshield wipers on his glasses could be so juicy, those same which is that?

What is it?

Jersey?

It's so juicy and he has a winds show wiper glasses.

Let's do quick, quick New Year's resolutions and then we'll kick into some of these clips.

All right, you go first, Jackie for the resolution. Yeah, oh man, this is tough.

Maybe glaze a little less.

I'm just kidding about to say.

Can you imagine? Can you imagine a world like that? I don't stink. I want to be a better golfer. I want to break ninety. It's more of a goal than a resolution.

What about you, Kayler?

This is a real one and I've actually been saying this to Jack in the last couple of weeks.

I'm gonna try to be more positive.

Did you put the grit?

Yeah?

I got out of my system last episode. Oh man, me more positive in twenty twenty five.

I like it.

I want to try. No one asked me, but I'll just say I'm gonna you I'm gonna try.

I want to.

I want to honestly work on my communication skills in so many different ways.

If you had to pick someone to model your communication goals after, who would that be? Who's the best communicator? Like who was the pinnacle of communication?

Brady was pretty good at communicating.

I could see that, Like if I had some funk with him, or if you know, I wasn't getting like, he would sit you down, like all right, what's what's deal?

He knew how he could.

He could have uncomfortable conversations. I'm not really good at those, and you know, I just I need to work on that. I need to improve and then overall just improvement continue in patience. I need a lot more patience to virtue, you know what I mean. So that's what New Year's is good for a fresh start, get to try to make the best version of yourself this next year.

Reflect reflect a lot of that, a lot of reflection.

Good year and twenty twenty five, there's gonna be some good stuff. Twenty twenty five.

What do we got now, let's do it. Who could forget Matt Light's wild appearance in the nuthouse.

We were trying to decide which was the best moment for Matt Light and we almost just put the whole episode.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Can you imagine this episode from.

Hunting the Woods behind Gillette? The pranks galore? Oh my goodness, this was an instant class Gargoyle. Oh, I wonder where Briggs is? I wonder where Briggs. We want to get you on, get your side of the story. That dang mouse, he had that mouse more the street mental error, the infamous prank that he pulled on Bill.

Let's look back at that one.

So, yeah, we got the Matt Light prank on Coach Balichick. Let's go back to that.

Let's go check it out.

And Bill's kind of pissed off, like, yeah, what did you do?

I heard that story once you went into his office, and what did you do?

So I had this remote right and again and this is back in the day when this stuff didn't really exist. But I was always surfing the net and it was a mouse and it plugged in actually, but they didn't do anything when you plugged in. You couldn't actually control the mouse. But there were I don't know how you get this much energy out of two triple A batteries, but those two triple A batteries, when you hit that mouse button, it would send like Jesus through your body,

Right.

So when now, by the way, first time he didn't have his hand on a keyboard, the second time he shocked himself, he did and it closed in a program. The way I look at that is you're an air repeater. That the first one was my fault, second one that's your fault. Now we didn't talk about that, but I will say this, When he lost that, that was not a good day because it wasn't like auto save apparently, so all of his notes for that day apparently went

Buddy.

Once I heard about that one, I was like, yeah, that thing's gone.

What did he say to you?

He I mean literally he said something like, I mean he stopped me. And by the way, Bill's kind of like Tommy, like, I have no idea how time he got from one meeting room to the next. I don't know if he floated in the atmosphere he like like became particles and just reappears like in weird places. Obviously he didn't shower. Toim, he never showered. Never, Nobody ever saw him in there weird.

Well, actually I see him a couple of times. He'd have the two shower heads on him. Ember he would be in the corner sometimes rarely shower heads.

I'm like, dude, yeah I had.

Two showers I know, and neither one of those heads wanted to be pointed to him. No, seriously, Like the water was like he's he's hydrophobic, like it like water doesn't like him.

He got to think about it.

He probably goes to like his sick home where like he's got like hydrogen based water.

No, I'm listen, I think he has to wash him every day. I think, so seriously, it's Alex little tiny hands, Like, so what did Bill say?

Hey man?

He was fired up. He basically told me if you go in my office again, I will kill you. And of course I did not. I'm like, coach, what are we even talking about? He's like, you know exactly what we're talking about. I really don't, I said, but I'm gonna get some food here, I'll see in the meeting room. And and but it was weird because Maddy p came at me and so the Bears and I thought I thought they were like flipping it on me right, like, oh,

What did Scarr say?

Like, He's like, I don't think that was a good idea. You probably shouldn't go in the head coach's office. And I'm like you too, I'm like, I don't know what you're even talking about.

So did you deny it? Till day to forever?

Forever?

But that's the so again, we didn't have a conversation about it. It wasn't like at some point he came to me. It was like, hey, that shit was kind of funny. You got me that she had hurt, you know, like I we cool to acknowledge any of this, Like, hey, remember that email you sent me? Like that was funny. But there's a part of me that believes, like what he reiterated on his concluding remarks email, that he was kind of serious. You know what I'm saying.

Serious.

Bill used to he was notorious for fucking quizziness on spot and I could have sworn Matt Light was sleeping in a meeting and Bill tried to catch Matt and he.

Goes, Matt, you got all the fucking answer exactly what he said.

Actually, I was just gonna say that, Matt, you.

Got all the fucking answers. What coverage is that?

And you hit?

You hit the coverage?

Uh?

What was it?

Like?

Two blit zone two C.

There was like the square root in a sly triangle is equal to the I'm like, and everybody turns around. They're like, because they know I sleep, Like you know I sleep. I slept through every meeting and I don't. Honestly,

You know.

I'd be watching an ounce of film and then he would go to the defense and he'd be like, all right, guys, like, what's one plus seven? And they'd be like six and a half and they like that it's pretty close, pretty good? All right now, I'm moving on.

What are we talking about, coach?

Like those guys that have no idea jerseys?

Right, Like he would give some fucking terrible you give the easiest questions, these fucking defensive guys, and they.

Always got to pass every time. So I'm listening to this and I'm like, these cats have no idea. And Bill's kind of pissed off. Like we had a couple of weeks of coming in and I want some answers. It's a Wednesday morning, right, and you better have my answers, right. Well, they weren't having this, so I go on my way out.

Dude.

He was just like, you know, look, I mean, you know, like it wasn't like a hey, that sounds like a great idea or that's really stupid. It was just like indifferent. So I walked out of there thinking that that failed. Three weeks go by it, I'm walking in and Bear's like, hey, Bill wants to see it. And I'm like, oh snap, what.

Did I do?

Like I told, he forgot about the whole conversation, right, and I'm not kidding you. I walk in his office and immediately he goes, all right, look, you know I'll hit you with you know that you know what they're doing the third down and then I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to you about you know, when we get into

And then then he looks learn the Bengal formation. The f was all the way and the inside because he was in jail.

In jail, easy way to remember. So when he asked me, when he says, exactly what you said, all right, like you got all the fucking answers, all right, here we go, what are they doing this? And I literally just rattled off immediately. I remember I could hear the air come out of coping, and he's like, shit, he's awake. And I didn't even know that one. So the next one he throws out there, immediately answer that one, and the third one, I'm like literally looking at my hand, of course.

That Like, how did he stay on that team for so long?

It's incredible. The carte blanche he had around there is impressive. Look, don't use big words, neither of us. What do you say you or I understand? Understand? Oh, it's such a Bill all time?

All right?

What do we got here? Next?

On our next moment comes TV legend and former Pittsburgh stiller Ed O'Neil.

I had another great thesbian.

Oh, I mean I I four touchdowns.

Four touchdowns in sixty nine, sixty six, sixty six. I don't know why, but I did you see that one episode?

All right?

Because we've had him on all my algorithms have a lot of Ed o'neo and married with children clips. Great one where he's playing softball and pegs over there, like, no, that's not him, you know what I mean? This guy's like is that al Bundy? And she tells it this huge story about it. I just I fucking love that show. I love that show. That was That was such a fun episode for us. Choked me out after the episode Jiu Jitsu Champion Friends with the Gracies.

Man, Yeah, you might want to be messed with man.

That was so fun. All timer, that was an all timer.

All right, Let's let's go to.

Ed's story of his cup of coffee with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Let's do it.

This was not too long after I got cut. Yeah, so I was still following things pretty close. And you know, I knew all about frank O Harris and those guys because they came a year after I got cut. And when I got cut, I said I got cut. I had a cup of coffee with them basically that's about it. But yeah, so I was still, you know, sitting in the bar with my buddies watching these games.

Yeah, and glad I wasn't playing at that point.

Yeah.

Well you had to be vested because you got drafted with me and Joe Green. You got drafted with a lot of these pro football Hall of famers, and so you got to enjoy.

And it was Chuck noles first year.

Right, it was noles first year, and so you.

Got to you had his first training camp, and you got to know these people. So you get vested because you have relationships with these guys.

Huh yeah, I mean it was uh, you know, it was. It was very intense. You know you've been to those camps. I mean I didn't make a whole lot of friends. It was a job, yes, but it was it was fun. I actually enjoyed it. Yeah, as opposed to college. I mean, you know, I don't know why you would think it would be the opposite, but I actually enjoyed the training down there.

Yeah.

You know what people don't realize because I was a very similar situation as you. You were a priority free agent, so they sinned you exactly. I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the last round of our draft, which some would argue it's better to be a free agent because you get two years contract instead.

Of locking in for a third.

And you were a quarterback. I was a quarterback.

But the mental aspect when you're on the team and there's ninety guys, they got to cut it down to fifty three and you're sitting where you did you used to play the numbers game, You're sitting in training camp. Well, they're going to keep this guy. They're going to keep that guy.

Yeah.

I had a situation where, you know, I don't know if yours was the same as ours, but ours the Steelers they would put a board up and if your name wasn't on it, you were cut. So it's kind of a nice way to do it. You know, you don't see your name as this guy got cut. You know, people don't know you, they don't even know you got gut.

And it's completely changed nowadays. Nowadays, you'll be sitting in the locker room and they have this guy with everyone calls the Turk. It's probably like, uh, he's like an offensive assistant of assistant of another assistant, and he comes up to your locker and he taps on your shoulder.

He says, hey, head coach wants to see you. Bring your playbook.

Oh no, I had that. See they went to they went through.

When it started out, okay, they had so many guys, they cut the way I just mentioned.

But then if you got along some then it turned into.

Uh, oh, by the way, coach snow would like to see you in his office and bring your playbook.

That's what happened to me.

Geez.

Yeah, so but then there you know how nice they are to you when you're going there.

You know we're going a different route. You know, you're just not yea.

Well with me, it was, well, you never played outside linebacker and you're trying to make the team and learn the position at the same time.

That's hard to do.

I said, yeah, He said, well I think they I think I think I remember it as well.

You can go to the Eagles if you want to, and don't give.

You a good look.

We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down the PA Pike.

But I need to know right now, and I don't know what happened to my thinking. It was like, you're gonna what I want to drive a car Philadelphia.

No I said, I'm done. I'm finished. Thanks a lot. Wow, that was it, but I was.

Getting sick of it. To be honest with you, I played for two colleges. I had some knee problems, and I just I don't know what it was. I didn't even like coach as much. You know, I got I don't I like Noel.

He was well.

I didn't get to know him much, but he was a real gentleman, and I thought he was a nice guy. He was, but I had coaches in college. I didn't like it all in high school too. I had to start thinking maybe.

It was my fault.

It was to that point, Gee, I was finished.

I said.

He said, well, what are you going to do?

I said, I don't know, but not this.

And then I remember when I went to my back to the dorm room I had, you know, I had a roommate. His name was Clarence Oliver San Diego State. He made the team as a defensive back and he only played one year. I think he broke his back, but he made it. But I went in and he was like, what happened? What do you think?

So I was backing up and the guy came in.

You know.

They said, well, the car's out there. Where do you want to go? And I said, Pittsburgh.

I'm not from Pittsburgh, but.

I knew a guy.

I knew a friend in Pittsburgh. So I said, now I'm going to Pittsburgh. And he says, okay, we'll drive you to Pittsburgh. You know it's not too it's Latrobe. So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the way out because your cleats are there in the locker, and we got a lot of.

Swag for you.

We got great jerseys and T shirts and hats and shorts. And I said, I don't want any of that shit. He said, you don't want the it's good stuff. I don't want it.

I'm going to wear it.

I'm not wearing it.

I don't want the cleats either. I'm not going to use him anymore.

So he took me into Pittsburgh and I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived.

So I was trying.

I didn't want to go home. Yeah, it was what it was. So I didn't you want to go home?

You know, I mean, that was all screwed up.

I thought, I don't want to go home and have to explain this, so I said, uh, it was still in the summertime. So I directed them up a street and I saw a bar. It was a local bar with the door open the summertime, the doors no air, you know, the door was open. I said, right here, my friend lives right around that bar. Just drop me off here.

You sure, you know?

They kind of said, yeah, give me the bag audios.

So I went in the bar and it was like two o'clock in the afternoon, and there were like a couple of you know, locals. It was a local joint. So I walk in. I'm twenty three years old. They don't know me.

I'm a stranger in this neighborhood and they look like, was this good? I order a beer and.

They got the TV up high, you know, on the wall, and we're watching it and the the New News comes on and they're showing Armstrong walking on the moon.

Wow.

That's when I got cut. And I'm thinking, well, if somebody had a good.

Day, he had the golf club right, and I'm watching it, and then they went to the sports and of course it's Pittsburgh.

So they go.

Linebacker Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers and there's my picture, and these guys are in the in the bar and they look.

They go, you're at O'Neill.

Yeah.

Yeah, and they said, your money's no good here. Now they're all buying me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in the morning and some some car with some girl with a state hoopie pulling me over. You know, I don't even know my name at this point. And the guy looks in and I think I had my shirt off, and you know, that was almost naked. And I'm driving though, and he says, you know, I had my my drivers. He said, did you get cut today from Pittsburgh. I said yep. He said, miss can you drive?

And she said, I'll take him.

He says he knows somebody and he sapt letting him go because it was you.

Know, it was Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh Steelers. They love them Steelers.

Even if you got cut, it doesn't make any You're still part of the team.

You're still part of the team anyway.

That's my I don't think i've told that story ever.

That so you were a defensive lineman. In college, I played.

Mansome joker, middle guard, middle guard on defense, okay, and I played defensive end and I played tight end in college.

Okay.

You know I just went around like that.

So what was the you said that you mentioned you were playing outside linebacker in Steelers camp?

What was That's all you got? That's all they had for me. You know, I couldn't be a cornerback. I wasn't quick enough. I mean I ran a four seven forty in sixty eight.

That's that's my number though. But you know that's fast. I was about two thirty.

Four to seven four seven, then two thirty. That's like a two sixty guy running four six.

And then I did.

But you guys didn't train for.

It like that. That was athlete, that was that was fast. Then, I don't know, you only had a couple for four guys in the team.

Well, you know when I did, I did it. I narrated the thing on uh Peyton Manning, you know that timeline and when I and it was so nicely written. I was very impressed with it. And this was not long ago, and I was struck by the fact that he was coached and you were too right. Your dad was a coach. That was a coach, and uh, I mean I was never coached. Not I don't think I was really ever coached. We just played pickup ball. And when we went to high school there was coaches there,

The game has changed now now.

That used to be the old That used to be the ultimate equalizer of the guy who will.

Even then it didn't work right.

Even then it didn't work right because you could hit a guy like on a reverse. Say they run around and you're in and you've got a clean shot, and instead of tackling him, I would hit him with a forearm and sometimes they wouldn't go down, you know, they'd spin and keep going. I mean it was like that, you know. It was just it was like Kamakazi football that you would have been a great special teamer.

Probably he's outside.

He's in the car, and I.

Still don't understand why he didn't go to the Eagles camp.

Different time, different era.

He's just he was a stiller yeah, he wanted to be a Pittsburg stiller.

He said, I'm done with this. I'm done with it.

Hey, thank god for all or we wouldn't have had l Bundy.

Ay Man, I'm glad that played out the way.

He's such a legend. That is a legend.

He's the best.

We'll be right back after this quick break on.

Our next moment comes from a Nuthouse East classic. Current PC head coach Games with Names listener and one of my former offensive coordinators, Billy O'Brien, joined us, and boy was it a treat. That was a treat. Look at the time that we had together and all the fun stories little Tom Brady Billy hu exchange on the sidelines because the taekwon Underwood's undercut freaking in cut on the inline. I mean, it's it's instant clue. Let's get into it,

How was it coaching him?

Yeah?

No, I I so basically I went from oh wait, wide receiver coach Josh Josh got the Denver job and Bill, I'll never forget it. We were my wife and I were going out to dinner. We we lived in Midfield and we were going to the to the mall to California Pizza Kitchen. It was like a place we would go and and my phone rang and it's Bill and he's like, hey, listen, uh, you know, Josh is taking this Denver job. Listen, I'm gonna make you the quarterback coach.

That was it.

I was like, Bill, I appreciate it. All right, see you Monday, See you Monday. Hang up, boom, just keep going to California Pizza. I turned to my wife and I was like, I think he just said I'm the quarterback coach. So it was just a great you know, that was a cool night for my family and to have the opportunit to coach. You know, obviously, what we believe is the greatest quarterback of all time when he when he first he was out on the West Coast and he came back for OTAs that year nine.

The year, the year.

Yeah. He I'll never forget this. He came in my office he said, look, I want to be coached. He's like, look, I don't want don't waste my time, but I want to be coached. And he was right about that, and I learned a lot about, you know, how he wanted to be coached, what he wanted to know. Like I can remember one of my first meetings. I was so prepared. I had this like book of like computer reports, and I gave him this. I'm like, Tom, look at this book, you know, and he's like, what is this? I want

It to him.

And so I don't know if Josh. I think Josh probably do the same thing. But like you know, he went to bed early. So if it was like, you know, Tuesday night for Wednesday morning, here's the game plan by eight pm, here's the game plan for third down by eight pm on Wednesday, you know red area eight pm on Thursday. You know what I mean for the next day. But that forced you to work, get your work done and be prepared. And then he would email back with Hey, I love this play. I love this play. I don't

That's really cool to hear, you know, And people don't realize Tom loves being coached. I mean, Billy Oh was probably so overwhelmed jumping into that thing because when I got there, they are like they already had three Super Bowls. They were already the Patriots, and that was like And I remember seeing him throw for the first day and I was like, man.

This is my fucker throw, you know what I mean?

When he was throwing, he threw through a two hole shot to Randy or something and Randy late handed like and like didn't even have his button, chin trap buckle like, and it just they looked like a They looked like pro A one. And to hear that he liked to be coached is awesome. I mean to the point where you coached where you guys are damn near fish fighting on the sidelines, you know, Billy Oh, can we get into that what happened there?

No hold on now, I mean fist fight. You were at practice.

You know how practices are once again going back to.

Brothers.

You really are with your with your assistant coaches. Sometimes you just want to slap this shit out of your brother exactly.

So like you know, you can remember practices like I when when Bill would you know, make us use the headsets or whatever or we wanted to use the headsets to practice for the game, and so you know, I'd be pressing the button and it wouldn't be like it would be screwed up, and maybe I'd be yelling at Donnie Brocher and Tom would be out on the field like you gotta press the button. You're not pressing the button.

You know.

So these little fight.

They went to the inner remember then they went to but I mean, these little things would come up. And so in that game, we Dion had gotten hurt, and like leading up to that game late in the week and we signed Taekwon Underwood, who.

Now is like the receiver or the receivers.

We signed him late in the week and we were driving the ball and somebody else got hurt. So Taekwon had to go in and we ran branch and he had the incut. He was the X and he didn't run a great incut. He kind of faded and uh, Josh what's his name in the corner for the Redskins undercut it.

Tom kind of looped it in there.

So we come over to the sideline and Tom's you know, ripping Taekwon and I can remember Wes like, all right, man, like let's move on, like you know, basically like we we all just got to move on.

Well, we were.

Frustrated because we weren't moving the ball all that game, Like there's a lot of ship that goes happening on the side.

So then it just became I don't want to get into all that was said, but like, hey, Tom, like basically like you need to shut the f up. We got to move on now because Grossman's driving the ball, We're gonna possibly go to overtime. And you remember who intercepted the pass to end the game was girod Mayo.

I was playing defense.

So but anyways, so he said, you want me to shut you shut And then it was just like to two fifteen year olders, like just yelling shut the f up back and forth to each other.

Came over.

I'll tell you right now, that was the brilliance of Billy Oh because he liked the fire guys up. And we all knew Tom liked to be fired up because we all know Tom plays better.

Pissed off, like that's the that's the truth.

And you know there's a lot of those Jedi mind tricks that I think that happened over there to piss him off because he played better pissed off.

You know we it didn't you know? You remember the next day. No one's like it happens. It happens over game day is like a battle day.

And I don't like making the comparison to the guys that do it, but you know, shit happens next day.

You don't.

You go, you see him at the coffee line? Eye, how was how's the wife?

You don't even remember? I remember?

Move on?

They don't calm t kettle for nothing. Those are those it's the heat of battle. Heat of battle, and we love Billy.

Oh.

Right after that episode we did that, he went out and had some big wins at Boston College.

He did doing a great job.

Doing a great job. He's converted us an Eagles fan.

Hey, and hopefully he's getting the funding from the pope. Yeah, yeah, he was pretty quiet about that. But I could see Catholics, okay, Catholics over there, those rogues and ship a lot of money over there.

In Il Baby, and I love when he came on too, because we were like, oh, we got some timing. He's an active head coach. We're like, okay, let's try to fit in the timing. And then like we were like, don't with the show, and was like, I'm not done. You want a Randy Moss story. You wanted this story, here's the story, here's one. It was like, that was the best best. He's so cool.

We gotta get him back on.

It was cool to have him and Josh back like back to back. Brought back a lot of cool memories. Our next moment comes from a Vegas episode Las Vegas. We were in town for the Super Bowl, of course, and I had the pleasure of chopping it up with real deal Chiefs fan an snl vet Heidi Gardener. Boy, does she know ball? Certified ball noer? She is a ball nowher and.

A real Those Chiefs, those Chiefs fans, they know ball. Well, here's us talking about NFL locker rooms at halftime. Take a look.

Would there ever be a player that took a shower at halftime?

Absolutely not.

I used to think it was weird when guys would take their pads off. Some guys would take their pads off halftime. I like my stuff snug.

You got the sweat, would you eat it halftime?

Yeah, there's always like pickles for the salt so you retain water. They always have peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. That's a huge thing, you know, as Travis with crustables, they'd have sometimes they have chicken broth. If it was like a cold game, they have every kind of like power bar or protein bar or meal supplement bar.

Yeah.

They sometimes when it's like a you know, a high play first half, guys are.

Kind of drained.

Usually in the heat, you got to take in calories, a little more energy. Cool pregame shower, Oh, I shower like five six times before game because you you know, you wake up. I like to wake up shower. I like, I like hot water on my face. That helps me wake up. Then you hit the tubs, you know, warm up, do another shower, and then like you go do ball drills this that I don't like the sweat and then I'll do like another shower, a shower earth.

I like five six showers a day.

Also, day before the super Bowl, you're not practicing, right, like Friday is the last practice.

Day before Super Bowl is usually a mental sharpen sharpening day, So it's kind of like your walk through your dress rehearsal. Yeah, you know each team they're at a hotel, so they'll probably clear out the ballroom. You have the whole hotel,

That mental repea.

So when it's game time, the more you know the material, the more you can be spontaneous with your play.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean that's when like instinctively things happen. Yeah.

The showering question killed me. Does anybody take a shower at halftime?

Yeah?

No, I would have never thought to ask that.

Never, That is insane.

I would feel weird being clean and wet pads, Like when you get out of the pool and the shower you don't want to put your swim trunks back on.

Yeah, they're wet.

It's weird, and then you gotta go playing execute great question though.

Oh and then she was asking about you know, the Travis, the uncrustables and the food, what's in there. I know the Patriots were not an uncrustables team. I've picked your brain about this.

We weren't. We weren't an uncrustables team because they didn't.

Show up in the surf. There was the recent survey that broke the internet. Yeah, talking about how many uncrustables NFL teams consume, which is like it's like a you know, a small nation could eat that many.

They're delicious, but I don't think they're really good for you. We used to have like four different types of pbmj's. For me, we would have a gluten free bread with an almond butter and a strawberry preserve which was no added sugar, lovely healthy. You could get that in peanut butter or almond butter depending if you wanted that on

You go and pick what you want everyday.

No, this was every day before practice, and then they had them in a halftime and pregame right before practice usually so guys could get a quick calorie, get some carbs, load up for practice, you know, cause there it is a good, real well rounded snack with carbohydrate sugar, you know what I mean, for some for fuel, and then a little peanut butter gives you a little protein.

Which one are you grabbing?

I'd always mix it up.

I'd always go, like I get the healthy gluten free ones, and then I'd have like one multi grain, like I go healthy gluten free strawberry preserve almond butter, two halves of those, and then I'd take a real id take a hat like a bite of a multi grain peanut butter and like grape jelly, like shit. And I always like taking a little chaser, just chase I would whole thing Tom used to just eat. He would never eat the crust.

I remember that. I think I think he would just eat the white part of it and he'd leave the crust. Is this gluten free or is this like the he used to have the gluten free ones?

I believe Heay, we know a man killer. Trav loves those uncustables.

Oh who doesn't love it. If we had holds, we'd eat them.

I don't think I've ever had one. I never had one.

People love him, it's just we didn't. But there's something about a homemade one. That's why Maryann and all the ladies in the back appreciate you.

Shout out. Our next moment is sponsored by Corvis Vodka Shot a clock.

Here's the story of Thailand negotiating his contract with Bill Belichick. What's your best Bill Belichick story? All right, look, okay, okay, we know what all right?

Look all right.

So it was a situation where you know, I was going through you know, some contract, you know, some contract stuff before and Bill was like, hey, we need to restructure your contract.

And I was like, well it was just.

Gonna be like an extension, you know what I mean, you just save some some cap space or whatever, and I was like, you know, okay, But after we got it on down, I'm like, man, so that's a fucking paint cut.

I ain't saving me. No, I ain't saving me no money.

I don't even gott to send my age and this ship, you know, you know what I mean. But then we went through it, and then so he hits me and it was a good friend uh you know, on the team. I ain't gonna say no names. I can't put it out there like that. And he was like, hey, look, if you don't restructure this, man, we're gonna we have to cut your boy. I was like, well, I guess he cut ass.

I ain't giving your ship, you know.

I'm like, I ain't happen, I said, I guess, I guess I go tell my boy that, hey, bro, hey man, get your neck something like that, you know what I mean. But like I said, we were, well, you know, but that's Bill being Bill and out there. So we end up, uh, we end up working out our restructured. I said, look, I don't care about as long as I'm getting paid. The same thing is because I didn't call in and try to get no more money and even though a lot of stuff got blown out of proportion. We worked

Man.

He said, I can't draft you with that.

So I'm sitting there myself. People had me traject to go.

To the Detroit Lions at number I think they had the twenty first pick of the draft.

And I'm sitting like, you know what, after what I've seen.

Looking at Foxboro Stadium and seeing all these trailer parks up here, and I'm like, man, okay, that made me keep my agent even more because I ain't man y'all.

You couldn't even put me in a Marriotte.

You couldn't put me. You know, I'm thinking I'm about to go to the league, you know.

Rich call and get some room service and some ship like that.

Man, bruh. I was not trying to come to the wind just because of that. But when he told me. But when he told me that, what he tried to do is get into you know, a young guy's head. See what you think. That's the divide and conquer, you know, mentality, saying that you know you might want to draft me. You know I don't know that. But if you think I'm gonna go and fire my agent just because of what you said, even if I had my agent and I'm with you and you don't want to get the

I mean it's a production business, exactly, exactly business, yes exactly, you get paid, you get that production. But that's funny that he tried to ok Q, Oh you tried to go me twice. That's the Bill, want to give you one more.

Let's hear it.

Okay, since we're out there and everything gone. Now so now now I had a in my contracy. Oh god, damn it.

Shot a clock clock.

I mean we're talking Bill, you got you got thet girl, pineapple, we.

Got, were about to about to mess with Bill a little bit. Cheers. We love him, we love him.

Oh hell yeah.

So let's let's go to Bill's ass, right, So he is we drinking and thinking ship. All right, So Bill I had a contract, so of course you know, he came, you know from the Jessie you know. And at the time, I was the only person on the roster that was still in the Pete Carroll's contract. So I signed a big deal. I was with Pete. You know, Pete really went to bat and like I said, I earned my shit. But I was under that contract. So you know how

Because it's you had a weight had a weight clause.

Huh No, that's what's part of my reporting was I I gotta come on time, make weight past the conditioning test. Yeah, we all got that exactly. I got a million dollars from mine workout bonus million bucks. No, that was reporting bonus. My workout bonus was one hundred thousand, you know.

So that's what just in case they catch you, Just in case they catch you.

They save a mil Yeah. Yeah, they know you could do it.

That was enough.

To come in and like I said, I was going to pass the conditioning. Say, I'll give a damn if I had to sit in a sign for fifty hours straight, I'm gonna get that damn bonus, you know what I mean. But it was one hundred thousand. So you know when I came in, I got the Uh. I came in and got my checks, you know what I mean. At the time, you know, you got direct direct deposit, but you get your receipt. So I got I got one. I'm like, where's my damn where my other with my

Jet for you guys. That's a little child, yes, yes, profession exact, yeah exactly.

So now he said there, it's like no, I'm like Bill Man, all right. So I called my financial advisor. I was like, Yo, did that million clear yet?

Not yet?

So you know, I went out, I left and I came back. So Bill know me. So I'm coming back in and bearsh He was like hey, he said, he's in there. Bill had my contracts sitting on He had my contracts, sitting on the laid out laid out highlighted he had to ship highlighted, saying, hey, it has to be approved of this da da dada language. I'm like,

Twenty now huh oh yeah, unexcused absence, Yeah, so it.

Was it was a thout. It was like it was it was it was it five thousand? Was it five thousand? Yeah, it was five thousand. So I said, as far as I'm concerned, I got twenty practices. I'll be back at at uh, on day twenty one to get that six million salary. I'll be back for that. But if I'm lose on a hundred thousand'ma lose this shit, legit. So I was. I was gone, you know what I mean. So eventually Bears called me down the phone, bring your ass down here. Got it out all right? I said, Bill,

Principles off.

So he told me to come to go to the game because we were playing down in Washington.

So you didn't practice all camp.

No I did.

I was gone for three days. I left three days is because guess what? Because what the million cleared?

Okay, that was clear.

That was in the bank. So as far as I'm concerned, I got one hundred thousand dollars right here. That's out there, and to me where I come from, that's a lot of goddamn money.

That's a lot of money.

Anyway.

That's the kind that you.

Don't get a financial advise. You get him a million, but you keep a hundred thousand yourself. You know, you don't do do what you gotta do, you know, that's that's the pocket change at that time. You know, when you get there's a lot of money, but two things. So, like I said, where I come from, that's life changing. So for me, I was like, I'm not that guy. I'm gonna leave and I'll be back. But they also had the status of who I was too, so I knew that as well. So do what you gotta do.

And everybody hot dogs on sidelines, laughing and ship.

So he puts me in.

So now all the guys on the other side, they're really going, you know, they trying to make it. I'm getting cut and all out, like man, you know that williing It was clown and laughing. Right. So we comes back and next day he had to come in. On Monday, I didn't even take my stuff off. I was at the I was at the table eating breakfast, stealed my clothes on. You know, Bill came, but I would envelope. He saturday into me. It's like fucking asshole. So I

Me three days freaking Bill.

Hey, Hey, hey, hey, hey, that's Bill for you.

Though, Tyla, that was he had the nuthouse jumping. I know those talks with Bill Way too.

Well.

I don't envy you for those. I'm getting secondhand uncomfortability.

He knows what he's doing too.

He just grabbed a raw handful of checksmen. Think about it, Corners you in the lunch room.

Yeah, just think about it. This guy's like a This guy's been doing this for forty years. He's like a sixty year old man. You're like twenty three years old, just got out of college, and you're trying to get negotiating with the fucking guy that has done thousands of these contracts, just waiting for you to slip up. Hey, fu fucked age. We don't need the age, which I'm joking, joking. You never said that. We'll be right back after this

Times regular unbelievable, not just.

In Boston, but we also had him here in the Nuthouse, West Cross Country.

Trip, Earn Dog. He's man, he is our guy.

Well, the smartest guy we know, one of the greatest player personnel guys. Low key, he wore so many hats. But here's Ernie's take. And when the Patriots knew Tom Brady was going to be great, do you remember the scouting process when you guys were scouting Brady?

You know really it was Yeah, the number one thing you want to see our football player is what does he do in the games? I mean it's you know, that is it's kind of a bottom line business. And when you get somebody who goes in and plays well in the games, that's what gets your attention. And we had, you know, one one person you never knew, a great guy, Dick Raybine was our quarterback coach, who unfortunately died during

He always to talk about that. When did you know he was a killer?

You know, when I first Tom's rookie year in two thousand, he was like he was with a third string quarterback and he was not gonna get in the game. I mean, you know, unless you say, look, if you have two guys get injured in the same game, he can get in.

But it wasn't gonna happen.

And after practice he would go he would go grab our young rookie tight end Chris Heisman and take him over on the side and make Chris run patterns for him. But it wasn't just running patterns. Tom wanted to call the play. It's third and six, all right, iights, this is the play.

We're gonna run.

Call it out, you know, just Tom wanted to put himself through the situation. Here's the way I'm gonna call the play in this situation.

It's not just.

Let's just go, you know, go run around, play catch. You know, he has to think in a game, thinking situations. And you know, and I always figured if a player is gonna stay out light after somebody, should.

You know, honor him by going over from watching. I'm just standing watching this.

You know, this guy, he's really trying to get ready to play, even though he has no chance of playing this week. And of course Tom's the guy if he wanted to get in the right stance. How do you get in the right stance. You practice it in front of the mirror.

You just do. You know, being.

Obsessive compulsive can get you in trouble sometimes, but you can also lead to great results.

And that's the way I kind of look at that.

You know, Tom is the ultimate obsessive compulsive, you know, among players, because he's not you know, Tom Brady didn't just drop out of the sky a Hall of Fame quarterback.

He made himself into a Hall of fam quarterback.

And when people would tell me at the draft, I work hard as Brady, You're for of shit. You have no idea what you're talking about.

And that's the.

Correct I mean, I got there.

He already had three super Bowls and he was still flying in a coach week eleven to work on his little fundamentals after a practice.

Hey, but you know what.

That was when he he was a four. You know that that's what people don't see.

They don't see, they don't understand. And that was kind of like when I was talking about being impressed with Peyton Manning warming up before the game. When it's football now, I mean, it's dead ass serious every time. Yeah, there's there's no You don't take any plays off in practice.

He never did, never did.

And you know what he would if if you ran around first time he told Joe's we really want to do it this way, and then he expects you to get it right that second time. Hey, if you might not quite understand the first time, that's not a problem. Screwing up after we explained it to you, that's a problem.

Put him in the hall.

Put in the hall, right, gotta be. I just watched that that.

Uh. I just saw another clip of him explaining his cards about the Malcolm Butler catch. Another one, and we were practicing that days before. Whin's your super Bowls? When's your Super Bowls? Next up, Uncle T, Uncle t Man, Uncle Ter. Here's the four time Super Bowl champion talking about how heated practices got back in the day, back in the diggity diggity day day.

Why in practice one day I threw a pass and for some reason he mad at John kob or something. He came through and he decked me, knocked me back over, ask kettle, helmet flew off. Practice practice. We practiced in full pass. I found the football and I got a bound through it. I've tried to kill him. Nobody Chuck Noble's probably he didn't mind it, but I have to shit knocked out of me.

Boss pissed.

He came over and I say, let me tell you something.

Mad Dog.

You may lose with me, but you'll never win without me.

Got that and I walked over us, steaming tip my helmet off. Y'all sit on your helmets and practice, and we did. I said on my helmet, I'm over there and none. I'm mad because nobody got in a fight. Nobody fought for me.

Maybe that's it.

Nobody gave me shit.

I don't know when I'm over by myself and here.

Comes mad Dog.

He comes over and he kind of had that high pitch.

What what that guy give me that saying? What was that saying?

What are you talking about?

You know what that saying? You threw it about?

What you said?

What what was that? You said?

Huh?

And he had his tooth missing, and I said, I know what you're talking you.

You said, tom Bob, we're gonna win, may lose, I said, And I got to thinking what did I say? And so he sat down the next thing I know, it's like, hey, pull up a chair, pull up a helmet. So we started going, Okay, you knocked me down. I got pissed. I hit you with the football. You came at me. I pointed at you.

And what did I say?

He said something about you're gonna win with me? Oh no, no, no, you may lose with me.

Yeah, that's it that. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna lose with me.

No, I'm not gonna lose with you.

You may lose with me?

Then what.

And it took us thirty minutes, but you'll never win with that?

But that's it. Yeah.

Yeah, Oh I like that.

I like that.

I said, well, I like it too.

That's an original.

Yeah, And to this day that was always of course, he passed away. God bless Joe Green will say bon Bamber said, you may lose with me, but you'll never win without me.

Man. It kind of became the theme of their defense.

They used to use it all the time.

You know what is that not football right there?

So you guys get in a fight, Yeah you want to, or you guys, there's something.

That happensre's a disagreement.

That same thing happened to me and uh Gilmore. Remember Stefan Gilmore. We just signed him. We just signed him, and I was pissed. They gave him fourteen million dollars. I'm over here, you know, we just want a super Bowl. We're on our second you know, we got super bowls? Like they paid this guy fourteen million dollars.

Been routing over how many years?

It was fourteen a year?

What?

Yeah, When Stefan Gilmore came to the Pats, he was the highest paid corner, which he's a He was a fucking stud and made me a lot better. But I was pissed the first day he came in. He was a buffalo bill. You know, I wanted to show him first day of pads, this is how we fucking practice here. He kind of hems me up on a flag route. We get into it, I take his helmet off. I started punching him. Belichick goes, you too, get the fuck off the field.

Hit the showers, really, so we have to. It's first day of pads.

You gotta go shower with the guy.

So it was the first fucking period, Uncle Terry. It was the first period.

I didn't a water hole was outside.

But just like you and your teammate, you guys were, we start walking back and we're pissed off at each other, and all of a sudden, you know, we get into the locker room and.

Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's one of those things.

Where when you go back out to practice because they told us, get out, which was the best. If I would have known that, I would have done that so many more times. Get out of practice, training, camp, practice, first day of pats.

Get the fucking I started doing that, smartened up, going.

Up against the steel curtain every day in practice. Unbelievable.

You may lose with me, but you'll never win without me. Harry put that in.

A T shirt.

That is fucking of.

He's he's such He's so good at storytelling and and sayings that guy aspired to be him.

Terry's always got a good turn of phrase. He always he was dropping serious.

Knowledge and in the accent tops everything off.

It does, it does.

There's nothing like.

Having a hillbilly accent. I think I've heard him call himself a hill billy.

Oh, Terry will say it.

I don't know.

I'm pretty sure, but I mean, I think it makes you that, it makes it makes you funnier and Terry Terry.

People get the knock on Terry was because of his accent. I think in the pros but that's what I mean. But in that underestimated underestimated him. Look at him now, he's an American treasure.

What a game.

The reception, Oh, that's a great episode.

We can't do a best without including our old Powell, Robbie, g Robby. You know, here's Gronk and I talking about Cam Chancellor and all those ferocious hits. Yeah, I remember that play. Everyone talks about a concussion.

He got concussion that play.

Remember they got hit by Cam Chancellor.

That explains everything, Joe, can you walk us through that play?

Yeah?

I mean on the punt return before that, I took a hip shot, so I returned the punt. We went into no huddle right away because we knew there was what seven minutes left, and you know, we kind of boosted the urgency. We needed some kind of spark on offense. A lot of times you get in no huddle it you know, it gets the offense going, you can move the ball, keeps one defense on the field, you can get.

Some plays called.

So we went into no huddle and then it was this third and fourteen and I'm already fucking. My hip is tugging because I took a hit pointer on the punt return, so in between plays it would be tugging, and then your adrenaline kicks in right before play.

It was, you know, ten f stalk.

I think it was triple left triple in which you know you got the the in cut the under. We were flooding the zone and I had the deep end on the back side. And you have a quarterback clock in your head when you're running routes, especially if you're

Still running, and I'm still running.

And so Tom, he had to do something, gets into the pocket, steps up and it's late in my head, so you know you're about to take a fucking hit. So he zips it across the middle. I'm probably halfway in between the field, so you know, there's a there's there's a shark lurkin. That's that middlefield safety. So you

I was good.

I braced myself for the hit. So a lot of people think I was knocked out that play because of how I tried to get up at the end, you know, but that's when the adrenaline kicked. My hip pulled. I tried to get up in my hip pulled. If anyone who's had a hit pointer, you had hit pointers. When you get that hit pointer, it singes on you and it pulls all those muscles in your hip.

So like when the.

Adalin's down, that thing just starts singing on me and I'm like, oh, and everyone thinks I can't get up because I'm staggered because of the hit, which it was a fucking hit, and I felt the hit. Don't get me wrong, Cam chancers a fucking dog, but it was because of my hip and there was no concussion. So everyone out there, oh, the concussion wrong? No, dude, take a little tea spoon of cement, go up, You pick up your goddamn self.

Yeah.

Toughness, toughness, Rob.

What's funny about that play is when we were doing your documentary, we tried to license that footage for that k It's a big play to get into the NFL.

There was no penalty called.

There's nothing, There was no fine allowing legal play in the eyes of the NFL. We tried to license that footage for the documentary. They go, no shot, that doesn't represent the NFL, so it was never in the movie.

No flag though, no fine, wild.

I didn't need a flag, It didn't need a fine.

Let me use it, let me use it, Let me give you the money I'll put in.

The movie Football.

They said it didn't represent That was a heck of a play by you.

You remember that by Cam Chancellor like that and to make that catch and the hold on to it, you know how hard that is.

And I remember him grunting too. He grunted when when we when we hit. You know, sometimes you hear somebody ever hear something.

Guy goes, he's like.

I was.

I was like.

I remember, I was like, ouch, still feeling it. Nah, I'm joking.

It was my hip, my hip NFL spotter. The rule came in place after that hit.

I want Cam on the show me too.

And how can we forget Nicky Glazier for stopping by Nicky the Old nuthouse?

Huh?

I mean, here's us reminiscent of our Brady Roast experiences. I've watched Roast for as long as they've been around, and it kind of they kind of like chilled for a while since this whole you know, twenty two and twenty and how the world is kind of changed with the.

Worst sensitive Yeah, And I felt like it.

Kind of like the Roast we were on, there was like no holding anyone back. There was wild you know, what I mean. Everyone was hitting every joke and it was kind of it was it was it was like comedy was almost coming back.

I felt that too.

And I don't know that like if we would have submitted that script of what it ended up being to Netflix prior, they would have been like, no, we're not letting you do this, like there was I'm sure Netflix perused what was going to be said, but they weren't really I can't imagine anyone green lighting what was said that night. And even sitting there that night, I was thinking, oh, man, tomorrow, it's going to be like they went too hard. This was uh you know, did they did they cross the line?

Too far to me at the time.

It was pretty it was.

It was great, but it was great for like for us like the athletes, when the civilians on the stage, when we went up there and when Kevin led it off. It was good to see Kevin like that was a teammate move. Like he showed like where the bar was set when he came out.

Oh my god, so to relieved to.

Be he said, oh he said that. I'm like, all right, I'm good.

What was the line he said that made you like.

Where's the Brazilian jiu jitsu stuff?

He was bringing it right away, yes, and he was showing you where the threshold was, like where we're willing to go.

Absolutely I felt that way too.

He was the best man and just like commenting after everyone set and like showing credit where it's due, like he was really a team player that night, where on a night where it is competitive and comedians aren't usually that generous with each other of like giving each other accolades, and.

It was just it just it felt.

But the roast is weird because you didn't know what other people were going to say, what other jokes people were doing. None of us had any idea what the other people were doing. So you're writing something like can I get away with it? Am I gonna be the only one who addresses this thing? And then when I heard you were doing an Aaron Hernandoz joke, like.

I guess it's on the table that open world to me.

No of course it was jokes, and you know, I think anything can be Jokes can be made about literally any topic. It's not like you're like making fun of the victim, like there's a certain way that it shouldn't be done, and that's not the way it was done

I'm sorry.

I want to include Drew and that too. Drew was amazing.

He was the first one to go out, so that's big ball baby killed.

And him just sipping that wine being so calm and cool.

I mean, it makes sense why you guys kill because you are used to these high pressure situations and maybe you would say that wouldn't have prepared you at all for that, but I think it has to. There's there's no way, like, how did all three of you kill like that?

It just doesn't make sense, you know.

I guess for myself and I want to ask you about your preparation process after. But for me, we saw each other at the store. Yeah, and Jeff was awesome to let me do the back ten twelve minutes of his of his set at the Comedy.

Store, which good for you doing that. I was so terrified.

I was shaking telling my jokes like this and I could barely talk. Thank god, there was like fifteen frat dudes from Nebraska that knew who I was, that loved football, so I felt comfortable.

But good for you for doing that, because that's not easy to do, and no one wants to go run their set around town. But when I heard, like, I go, where's Tom running his set? And like he's just practicing in on his plane and stuff because obviously he can't go out to clubs, it makes sense.

But I would be plain.

I so scared to go do it for the first time without saying it, because I went around a lot to clubs to run it so good for you even going out?

How many minutes did you go out and run it?

Just once? Just once?

I that one rep was everything for me because then once you got to the once we got to the roast, the only people that we really could see were people we knew. Yeah you know, and yeah you see Kim Gardashian, but like, oh yeah whatever, But like I saw like coaches, I saw friends, I saw so like that made it more comfortable for me. Yeah, I wasn't looking past.

That, Okay, I you yeah, you destroyed. But then I think we all entered this part where like we would get on, we'd be nervous, and then the first laugh you get your calm like you like, and then you guys kind of like would lock into it and get excited about oh my god, they don't even know what's coming up.

Because I could.

See you guys, you and Gronk specifically having jokes land and then getting this like kind of like oh yes, I got it, like and then hitting this stride because it's it isn't.

It a great feeling?

I mean, I have so much respect for you know, comics and the comedy life. I mean I've gotten a note a little through Sam Moreau because we started the show.

And Sam was, yeah, yeah, that's right, Sam so much.

And so I would go hang out with him at the cellar and see all the other guys and kind of get a little in of how comics really are. Yeah, and you know, like, well, I think you guys are brilliant.

I can't write. I'm not a good english person, so you would be able to.

But you wrote some good English person.

Here football fun, But.

It's you.

Did you not have a moment during your set where you were like, and I wrote that one was.

That you did? Wrote wrote a couple of your jokes?

Write a couple?

Did you write we wrote the Hernandez joke?

Didn't we came with something similar?

Okay?

This is.

Yeah, Okay.

Sam, Sam was in there with us, and Okay, Joe helped us out. He was awesome.

It is a team team as well too.

I'm not like at this and so I had to have I had people.

I had a team too, so everyone does.

I would basically, so how we how we did our jokes was I would tell a bunch of stories to our room of like things that I thought were funny, like how it was in the locker room or the shower thing, or you know, taking a piss next to Gronk and like because it was comedy.

Every day when you go when Gronk was wrong, I take a piss every day.

Gronk would look over the stall and look at my dick and say, like, man, you're looking good today.

Like every day, but naked.

Like like I would tell these stories and then we would formulate a joke. They would formulate a joke. It was crazy, It was It was so fun.

Were you know of us?

Yeah? I was very nervous.

Yeah, I was like, did it feel like Super Bowl nervous?

My first Super Bowl was probably similar because it's unknown, but you know, football is the same and I'm comfortable with the game, and I was in the mindset, you know, you do the same thing that got you there.

You'll be all right.

Yeah, so you're you're nervous for a super Bowl, but this is something that's like completely outside the comfort box.

Like I don't know, like you say yes right away when they asked you, or were you like let me think about this.

I said, no, you did Yeah.

I was like, no shot, And then what made you do it?

Something didn't hurt? I was like, all right, maybe I'll do it.

Yeah, yeah, but I was I was scared, you know, like that's that's that's very.

The relief when it was over, it.

Was relief, but then it was also like I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was really you know, we just did a we just did a live show in Boston. Oh yeah, I saw that Wilbur at the Wilburg.

Yeah you before.

I've been there a lot.

What a great room room. Yeah, job.

It was so fun and like I was less nervous for that because of the roast, but I was still nervous for that. But I still had like I had a rep at being in front of people.

Yes, and even though it was completely different.

You don't like talk in front of people often.

But I'm I'm it's a new world for me because man, I think she was m VP of that whole thing.

She was the greatest roaster, greatest roast set of all time. Midway through the set, standing Oh had the forum like the roof was about to blow off.

Electric Good, English Person Good.

And the Golden Globes.

That's soon January seventh, coming up, Niki.

Nikki Nikki or Team Nikki.

We are.

We'll be right back after this quick break. Drew Bloodsoe rolled up, and boy did he bring plenty of wine to break down the Brady roast. That's right, here's us raking our top roasters.

Got it.

I want to hear your guys' top five roasters from last night?

Well, are we going to include Tom?

No, Tom's not top five?

Yeah?

Tom minus Tom minus Tom let's be People.

Say he had the best joke of the night.

Which one the I don't I'm gonna butcher, but the essentially Kim's worried because her kids are home.

With there that was pretty good.

One. That was that was solid.

That solid.

I didn't want to get in making out with your kids because I thought kids were off limits.

That was yeah, right, yeah, no, that's yeah. That was that was the That was the only rule they told me yeah, I'm like, well, obviously I'm not gonna make fun of them, but.

He's we're talking about Jack got a good kid.

Yeah, I wanted to do a a couple I want to Thanks for stopping me.

All right, So I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna be nice and throw you in their jewels. And I think you deserve it.

Nice.

I thought you. I thought you fucking crushed Nikki maybe m v p h. I dude, she absolutely killed Tony Hinchcliffe and good Schultz was Schultz was great and he and he had to and he had to back clean up man.

He had to.

Uh yeah, yeah he had and he brought it home. He brought it home. And then I don't I mean, Kevin's the host, so I don't get.

Get in there.

I guess what he did was set at the beginning. I guess kind of.

I mean he did was off limits. Yes, he did.

He right away. I thought I was sitting there like, oh ship he did that.

Yeah, so I and again I haven't watched this thing, but you were. You were sitting closer to it, closer to Tom. I've heard from a couple of people that he looked pretty damn uncomfortable.

At Yeah, he was getting like I love you from his like sisters and stuff like He's like.

Stay strong, but I think you know after but I think, but I think you're right.

I think Kevin set the bar that Okay, this is where we're going. Yeah, and then you know, how about you?

I agree with everyone I agree.

With.

I also like I liked Gronk, you.

Know what the energy Yeah, and like he and I was and I listened to Gronk.

He was he was practicing his.

Well you can go Gronk instead of you. I mean, if you vote for yourself, that's but you gotta get Drew.

Yeah, Drew either Drew you going up there and you set the stage with the glass wine like a fucking what a Debonair kind of persons A guy on Friday.

De bony very slave and the boner, uh, very slave and the boner when I walk up with uh the uh.

The wife joke was pretty funny.

That was awesome. Twenty eight years, twenty eight years the mirror, the mirror act out with them and doing the dog sea.

Definitely you called it out.

Now.

That was that was that was that one was not my joke. That one came from the Riders. But it's like, first of all, it's great plug for the winery.

Amen.

But then I was like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna give him the old blue steel, like.

Yeah, when you're around in one blue steel, Yeah, dude, he was, he was.

He was blue steel year round.

Bums.

He's still chunk steel.

So who's your five?

I got?

Dude, if you don't kiss my ass a little bit, then I'm fucking walking off.

I got blood cell, Thank you appreciate that.

I got. So can you put mine is red please?

Yeaheah, yeah, I'll go yours is red.

So I can see.

You got gronk.

Yeah, yeah, you got gronk.

I liked uh. I thought Nikky Glazer was hilarious.

She killed, she absolutely killed.

I liked shol the eight ring joke, Yeah, so funny.

And I also, I mean, like, obviously Jeff Ross crushed, but but I also couldn't have put him in the host category a little bit.

But you know, but Jeff is Jeff is a pro edit. It's expected, but he also he also has jokes that are great jokes that don't necessarily kill you, right, he didn't didn't He didn't like these people were killing people.

Dude, I don't know what. I don't know what the fuck I did to Sam Jay too, Like, dude, she got after me.

Jesus I forgot about Oh my god, dude, she fucking buried me as she hurt my feelings. I cried, No you did. I didn't cry. I'm killing I'm kidding, And.

I like Tony the ikind of Actually I'm going Will Ferrell, oh heck, yeah, well yeah, I love Will Farroll. He can go up there and and bomb. But as Ron Burgundy, I was. I was just sitting there like it was a movie.

Did he he could literally walk out there as Ron Burgundy and just stand there and I would probably laugh for five minutes.

I'm sure he. He could have just went out there with no preparation.

Just bullshit it No, it was. It's genius stuff. So you know, I will tell you one thing. One thing I was that in the whole thing is I was really looking forward to Thom Cigar and Bert Kreischer, and I thought they're they're set together. I was like, non, no, no, let these guys go. Was scripted. Man, these guys are the freaking funniest, fre so funny, and I felt like it was a little too scripted and set up between the two of them.

I think they they I think they started running out of spots.

Oh gotcha, the you know what I mean, because they started.

Like Bill Payton, right, everyone starts coming, and I think they all came with him like the last three or four days or.

Committed right, all right, all right, bottom five, we'll keep it.

At the top five.

Okay, good, what do we do?

Maybe too far?

A joke of the night or joke.

Kevin had a lot of those.

Kind of.

Okay, I'm trying to recall all of them. But now I I think the Antonio Brown bringing Gizelle's Oh yeah, that was that was I was like Jesus, because you know, I mean, we're sitting up there right and everything's funny, right, but you know there's gonna be cameras on us.

Right.

That was one where I just went like, no, I'm not laughing at that ship. I am not laughing at that ship. I'm like putting my head down and I'm uh, yeah.

That's what we got to rewatch it to see what I I hope I didn't fuck anything up.

Yeah. But the other thing though they did, they did say because when they go back and like when they do the like the Comedy Central ones. I was talking to one of the producers. Apparently those deals go like five hours, which I want to go to one of those. I'll set in the audience, but they cut it, yeah,

keV set the he set the stage when he started throwing out Brazilian jiu jitsu right away.

Yeah, I mean I.

Was like, yo, okay here because then it made my jokes not as bad.

Yeah, all right, thank you, thank you exact Yeah right.

The data way of Michael Vicker humans was.

That was great?

Who is that? Oh yeah, that was a great one.

What they call him? They called him the.

Like the next gen skinhead because he found a way for immigrants to beat each other.

Up, or put immigrants in cages.

Put immigrants in cages and.

We're still Brazilians that are half their purse.

Yes, yeah, dude, man, that was a fun night with Drew.

Was awesome.

He was a good sport. He was a great thick skin.

You gotta have some two sea thick skin, you know, th h I C C.

That's two c thick skins. Facts.

I remember you rolled up into the nuthouse fresh off around at Riviera, fresh off the line. He came in here and brought the party and wing it.

You and him throwing it in the back after just he was just ripping it so cool.

Had not lost any tightness, he hadn't lost any of it. Drew killed it. He was the man killed it.

Okay, what Matt light moment is just enough?

Also from Matt Light episode, here's the story about Matt and Bill's exchange of the famous email.

The most treasured thing that I own in my life is an email exchange between Bill Belichick and I. You ever get an email from Bill Belichick ever in your history of text message? Okay, but never an email. I've never spoken anybody that I've ever played with, or it came after me or before me that's ever received an email like Bill doesn't do human stuff right, Like that's like a that's like a like a human thing to do, like send an email. I got an email.

What was his email saying?

So I was a rep right and I was in Hawaii.

The way, let me let me pay the picture for everyone out there. Light was a rep, a union rep. And Bill took all the everything out on the reps because they represented the union. And he hated like the time limits, like you guys, figure.

It out what this fucking ship.

And he couldn't do anything to us because he had VRABEL on myself. But I get home from Hawaii, long ass flight Hawaii. It was the union meetings were there, and so when I was the guy that they got him changed, I passed the resolution saying if I want to go to Hawaii, I.

Go to Hawaii.

I don't want to all the way Hawaii. Why don't we do this in the States. We got all these you know, and dude, I think half the island wanted to kill me because that was a big revenue. But anyway, neither here nor there. I get home and this is like way before you know, we live in this crazy time now where like we think it's always been the way it is. I mean back up ten years ago. Man, I wasn't checking emails from my cell phone.

I had.

Makes sense, Yeah, but you've got somebody.

That will.

I never know what she's doing that, what is she doing?

What does she do?

I don't know.

So I get home, I got Jay, I've got whatever it is, like Microsoft, whatever, and I get on my thing and I'm checking my emails and there's an email in my inbox Belichick Commo Bill and I'm thinking to myself, you know what I thought immediately, Thank God, finally one of my offensive linemen is busting my balls all the stuff I've done and nobody's really come at me. And then when I read it, I was like, coping, you son of a gun, because he's the only one smart

You spent six hours trying to forever, dude, forever.

But by by the way, you know how it is.

Man.

You find one and it says it works, and you test it and it doesn't work, you'll pay for something. I'm like, this is stupid.

Anyway.

If id one sent Coping an email walking the next morning, and I'm ready to go toe to toe, but you know, I'm never going to admit the shit. So when I walk past Copin, immediately he's like, you send me an email, didn't you? I'm like, did you send me an email? I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's like, you know what I'm talking about. I'm like, no, I don't know what you're talking about. Because he has to admit first what he did, and then oh, okay, let's

Right.

And now as I'm walking out, we get done running, right, and I'm walking out for the day, I can't shake it. I'm like, he's not messing around. So I see Bears and I walk in his office and I'm like, hey, man, cause if it wasn't Coping, there's no one else smart enough. Bears must have sent it from Bill's email on behalf of someone else. And the minute I say something of the Bears, he's like, oh no, Bill, send you an email. I'm like, come on, man, not my first rodeo, right.

This you gotta read it, read it.

Get in there, man, text me and I got big fat fingers. So we've never had a conversation Bill Belichick, and I've never once spoken about this ever, so by I never break this out. It's one of these things that it kind of has to be in person, right, Okay, So here we go, here we go, all right, So just so you can see this, Saturday, April seventh, two thousand and seven, at two thirty four pm. Okay, so

It's a good crew.

Yeah, no kidding.

Yeah.

I got asked by a Hawaii about whatever I gave the typical you know, do your job speech. Right, Hey, Matt, just read this quote from you dot dot dot what the fuck question mark? And by the way, so you see like when I see this, like that's got to be coping. They're messing with me. That's not real. And Bill doesn't send emails. We have over fifty guys here working out today, and the one who isn't here does all the talking about how important the off season is.

Coach B.

I thought that was awesome. That was a way to go right. First of all, allow me to apologize for not responding earlier to your prior email. It has been my experience limited as it may be that a reflexive response does not serve anyone well. Thus, I felt it necessary to permit time to militate a more measured philosophic response. As you are certainly better aware than anyone. We, as human beings, are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a

Seem like that big of a deal.

I had no idea that this would be the response to that gibberish. And I gotta tell you, this is one of my favorite things in life again. April eleventh, twenty seven, twelve forty five pm. It's like a midday email, midday weird concluding remarks. You're gonna love this, Matt. I need some time to let this one settle, but I'll start with this. Why don't you consider dedicating yourself to having fewer mistakes and not leading the team in once

Sincerely, respectful yours, Bill Belichick, head coach, killing purchase.

That's it, man, That's all I need in life, and we've never once acknowledged it.

Bill doesn't do human stuff.

What a quote?

What a quote? He's doing human stuff now.

Real damn human Instagram for crying out loud.

Yeah, you see he probably he's probably doing this all in the grand scheme to prove fucking Matt Lighte wrong.

To have an email fifteen years from fifteen years ago? What do you have an email from three weeks ago?

Probably?

Well?

Do what that you?

What's that? What's that at? Like? It's not a hotmail? Is it at Patriots dot com? What is it?

What is Bill Belichick at?

Did you have? You have Patriots emails?

I think so, but I didn't use it. You had all that, but you could age it.

That's awesome.

The mail room was crazy too, no way, Oh, like letters and stuff, crazy.

Fans, fans sitting in the wildest things.

I remember when you're younger, you'd want, you know, you get a couple of pieces of mail and you'd.

Be like yeah, making it, sign.

A couple of cards, give him back Kevin Fault. When we get we were in the off season. I was covering from some growing stuff. He would take his mail and while he was getting treatment, he would sign his ship and give it to, you know, sign.

Beast.

I also saw a man by five thousand dollars worth of.

Lottery tickets scratchers and scratched them while we were both rehabbing, something about five thousand dollars for scratches.

A lot of Kevin Kevin Falk did that.

No IoT who it was, but I kind of know who was. But am I gonna put him a glass? Here's our last clip here and one.

Of the coolest things we've done on this show, go into the Hampton's and getting to interview John bon Jovie, oh Man over those old giant stories and super.

Bowl twenty five.

The wide right.

Twenty five sounds right, yeah, white right five, you're right, yeah, super.

Bowl twenty five. Here's the time John.

Bon Jovie told us about taking a young Bill Belichick on tour. One of the relationships I'm so fascinated to hear about is with your relationship with a young nerdy Bill Belichick who's thirty years old at the time.

What was Bill like when he's not you know, looked at like the Vader.

Looked and right, It's like I've only ever seen him on the other side, even with mister Kraft, who now is a dear, dear, dear friend of mine. He says, you don't even know the other side of Bill. Like I only got to see Bill when he would allow me to come to camp, right, allow me to come to the games and all the access that I had. But after the small talk and the stuff, what I saw of his professional side stopped there.

Yeah, all right, I was allowed to come to a.

Meeting here and there whatever, Right, But you know what I mean, my professional relationship. The reason why I had access for so many years, for so long with those people was because I.

Knew when to leave the room. I knew, I always knew to leave the room.

But going back to the fun, young Bill Belichick with his first wife, Debbie, who I knew very well back in you know, the Giants, and then in Cleveland and everywhere else where he went, even to the Jets. He came on the road with us. Like few people know that he was a closet drummer, and Tico gave him some lessons and we bought him a kit and he was trying to learn how.

To play the drum.

Bill knows how to play the drums well enough.

Yeah.

Did Bill ever make it out to the China Bar.

I don't know if the China buck but U. But he would come on the road with us, like especially in Europe where he could come and hang for a week at a time, you know. And we were playing this massive stadiums and I had written a fan letter to Mick Jagger and we were playing the same stadiums as the Stones. It was ninety five and I said one of the bucket list items is I want to open for the Stones. And the response was, well, you're playing the same venues and we certainly ain't going to pay.

I can picture. This is a sin.

Was a great college football player who could have been like a Hall of Famer. And Bill saw him and immediately went over to him and said, great to see you. Blah blah blah because he played with Jack Ham and some of the great Pittsburgh Steelers, and Belchi could now feel at home. Yeah, and he was with us, and

It is true. It's all true.

Another beautiful anecdotal story is ninety six. He was the decoordinator at the Pats. Pats are playing Green Bay in New Orleans on the Saturday afternoon, walked through stadium was empty. I got to go to walk through. I might walk through and mister Kraft comes over and he says, tell me more about your friend Bill. Tell me more about Bill, and I start telling that his family life is this I don't know if it resonated or not come two thousand, but it may have. Okay, I'll just leave it at that.

We could walk back to the hotel.

So we stopped at a bar on Saturday afternoon before the fucking Super Bowl. We had a couple of those big sugary hurricane drinks.

Yeah.

Yeah, there was a picture on his desk until he left the office of US drunk on this curb in New Orleans the day before the Green Bay Pats Super Bowl.

Wow. Who says he's not that fun?

He was a lot of fun.

Who says he's not sounded like fun to me. So it really wasn't. It wasn't Bill or Tom. It was John bon Jovi. The secret sauce not at all behind No, No, the Patriots.

No.

The only thing that I wanted just the world to know is that Belichick worked harder than anyone, and he knows how to play as well as anyone.

Yeah, that's probably the bottom line.

I mean, he's definitely he's one of the most I always tell explain to people that he's not usually.

Football coaches or old football players.

He's like a type of person that should be a military war general, yeah right, or some kind of leader in a like a way bigger society type thing that became a football coach.

I understand that you're right.

He should have led armies or could have led army he could have, yeah, or navies, as I think he loves a navy.

He's a big navy.

I know that.

I know that.

Yeah, I think that that's a very good point.

Drummer, Bill who Belichick, I love it.

Well, what a great year, what a.

Year, What a year. Thankful for you guys. Great job, guys, pats on the backs. But let's keep it up and keep getting better.

Amen.

Happy holidays to everyone out there, and I hope you guys have a great year. That's been another episode of Games with Names. We'll see you all in twenty twenty five. You know it's the biggest year the next year. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Comment game you want us to do, and remember rate and review. Remember to follow Games with Names on YouTube.