"The 18 Inning Game" with Hunter Pence | 2014 NLDS: Giants vs. Nationals

greatest games of all time. And on today's episode, we talk about game two of the two thy fourteen and LDS Giants First Nationals. We got Hunter Pence coming to the studio. We're gonna check out what he we had going on in October twenty fourteen, and then we're going to take a look back at each of these squads, and then we'll wrap it up by talking legacy and scoring this game. Check out Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter,

and TikTok. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts. Comment a game you want us to do, and rate and review this pod. Why are we doing this? This is the longest playoff game in MLB history at this time. Yeah, well there was one recently that was pretty long too. Was it was it longer? I think it was the same, right or was it longer? Eighteen innings? That's a great number. It was longer minute wise, but

it was also eighteen innings. Eighteen damn wow, that's that's good. Six hours, twenty three minutes. Six. You know what this brings me back to when I was a kid and you go to Giants games, you always wanted it to go into extra innings because it would be like nine to thirty ten, and then you were hoping to death that if it got too late, your parents understood and they wouldn't late, like make you go to school the next day. You got to like have a day of hooky.

It never went through, Yeah, never went through, But like I dreamed baseball. Yeah, as a kid, you're like, this is I get more my favorite thing to watch. You're at the park. You maybe getting another dog, You may get some peanuts, you get a foam finger. Like they cut off beer in the seventh inning though, did they they always do? I think do they reopening it? They have to reopen it for the playoffs. Why don't they reopen it? Everyone's sobering up? Is it because of safety?

It has to be because they don't want you to. They want you to sober up at least three and a half innings before you drive home, right, I guess right, Well, this game went eighteen innings, six hours and twenty three minutes. We already said that. I mean, you're a beara kid. You were a huge Giants fan. I was a huge Giants fan. There's still I mean, I know, you're like a Red Sox guy. Yeah, now, but you're still kind of a Giants fan. I'm still Yeah, I'm still definitely

a Giants fan. I mean that's part of what I grew up watching. Yeah, you know, so it was actually it was really cool. It's it's gonna be Actually it's gonna be really cool to get to interview Hunter Pence because I remember in his heyday, the guy with the long socks, fired up all the time, kind of tweaky, like he's like he was like a tweaker, you know, and and you know, we have to get behind that.

See what what made him? He's like tweak from South Park? Like, yeah, what about Squeak squeak from Baseball Underrated gem I low key love it. We need to do basketball on this show and get Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Squeak, scillary, squeak, little bit scillari. That guy rules a little bitch. You guys rip on me thirteen or fourteen more times. I'm out of here. Epic line. That's a great movie. Let's go back to October twenty fourteen, the number one movie

in America, Gone Girl, So Freaky. That was a good, good book and movie. I'm freaky though, Yeah, but I loved it. That girl plays. Who's the actress Rosenman Pike. She plays a really good thriller girl. Yeah she does like it's it's in her face, yeah, in and around her face. Yeah she's she's a good actress. But its just I feel like something. It just always like, is she not in a lot of these? I think she's in a couple thrillers. She's a thriller actress. She's got

a big resume. It's so freaky. Was in it too? Who Emily Radakowski. Didn't you see her? Yes? She was the like the college student love interest. I think, right, wow, damn, look at you, Jack coming out shooting from half court. This guy, he's he gets facts all across the board, is killing it. The number one song all about the bass at the base and Ben Affleck wouldn't wear a Yankees hat in this one. Refused. Wow, they made it sounds like he's a pretty bad actor. A good actor

would have been able to pretend to be anything. I have a little proof with him. You're a beef with Affleck. I don't. I don't know if it's beef. I just remember him calling into like a ESPN or doing something. He was doing some tour. Yeah, and it was when like two, it was in twenty nineteen. He's saying, oh, Brady has no receivers or no this, no that this guy.

I'm like sitting here, like, bro, we had drinks at the fucking met Gala together, and you're gonna go out and throw me under a bus like I'm out a good receiver. Damn, that's messed up. It's messed up, no respect, no respect. I thought we had something, man, I thought we were talking. We were doing Boston accents together him Matt, damon me, Like, by the way, doing Boston accents, that's just his voice. No, he's doing accent. Geez, that's messed up that And you know what I want to I

want to I want to be friends with them. I want to be cool with that. I respect that. I want to be no great director. But then he threw me under the bus. The town is a great movie, great movie. That's an epic Boston movie. But that is the fact that he can't weary Yankees. That you can think you could be Superman, but not a Yankees fan. Get the fuck out of here. A Fleck was now, Actually I'm back on his train. I'm back on you just got me off. Yeah, yeah, Look, I want to

be friends with Affleck too. He too the great. He's like a great filmmaker. All right, Well you got a better shot than I do. You got the Boston connect. Clearly, I can't believe he said that shit about you. I don't think he I don't know. You don't think he was. You might have been on the sauce he does drink. I don't know. I was just I was a little disappointed.

He's got no receivers. No receivers. I mean, he could have said he needs another receiver, could have said that you should go out on record and say that Matt Damon wrote good Wile hunting Alone. I think he did. I think he did. I heard that's what That's what we were talking about at the met Galan when we're all together drinking. You just said that Damon did the heavy lifting. That's that's what I heard. I think damn, he's probably gonna call me out and kill me right

now or something. Uh he take affleck oh, without a doubt, no doubt, no doubt you could take. He plays superheroes. You are a fucking superhero. Let's go super Bowl MVP. That's my fucking partner. Yeah, dude, hype man, hype man. I'm flavor Flavor right now. I'm getting you fucking ready to go. Let's dude. October third, BB King's last live performance. I love BB King. Yeah, legend in the House of Blues in Chicago. That probably had to be awesome. Yeah, I wish I would have got to go to that.

I don't know. It's the last one, the one you want to see though, Hell yeah, just to say you got to see him though, Just to say you got to see him him. I mean, I'm John Lee Hooka. I love me some blues. Ebola is popping off this and popping off. It probably isn't the right word, but uh, Ebola made a big splash. I remember. I remember driving down the pike and you would see the signs about like what is this ebola stuff? They'd be like, be careful of Ebola on like the traffic signs. You ever

did you see those? I remember that it was from a was a mosquito? A mosquito? Yeah, fucking mosquitoes. Dude. You know you make a dinosaur and you also can make ebola. Oscar Pistori sentenced to five years in prison for the murder of his girlfriend. That was crazy. Yeah, how did he only get five? Didn't? He got away? Then they redid it and he came back. He was the sprinter with with the medals, with the medals, dude, I think they he's not allowed to Actually was he

out was is he in the actual Olympics too? Did they outlaw that? I think they did because it's like aerodynamic in their I mean, he was blowing people out. I think, wasn't he? He didn't? He didn't medal. But let me look into what it's looking like. We probably can't use any of this and use it. Why not? But I murdered someone. We can shoot on him, all right, all right, that's the rules of comedy. You're allowed to shoot on bad people all the time. Wow. How about

this Baseball Hall of Fame inductee's list this year? Maddox Glavin, the Big Hurt, Frank Thomas, Bobby Cox, Tony LaRussa, and my man Joe Tory, New York legend Joe Tory. I thought he was the Dodgers, wasn't he the didn't he manage the Dodgers? Is that that guy? Joe Tory was the Yankees manager during that epic run, But didn't he go to the Dodgers for like a year? I think? Right? Oh, that's what he's known for. Dodgers he was known for he was there, oh two thousand and two. He won

four with us during that stretch. Oh man, And that was a damn good stretch. I met Tony Larissa a couple of times. We knocked back a couple over and at Strega in the water front of him Boston. He's he's a legend, He's a llegend. He's crazy. Yeah. And who's the picture with the mustacheckers? It was me and him and Eckersley. Damn, how cool is it that he's just known as the picture with the mustache ecuracy. He's awesome.

He's like good Hitler, He's the good mustag. You know, I mean that that thing's definitely a flavor saver, if you know what I mean. He's he looks, he looks awesome on the man with that mustache, especially in the era he played, Yeah, and in the A's uniform, remember he was in the age he looked those uniforms were are ready awesome. Then rocking the mustache, that was like pure eighties nineties just cool. Yeah, that was fuck energy.

It was fuck energy, no doubt. M VPS that year, Mike Trout in the AL and he's still killing it. He's still the m v P. He's still i mean, not on his team. They got uh, they got Otani, who's just on another level. But but it's crazy that Mike Trout might be the second most valuable on the team when he's a short fire Hall of Famer. Then you got n L m v P Clayton Kershaw still gray. It's still good. Yeah, good my young winners Kluber for Cleveland and Kershaw. Dude, Kershaw was dealing. He was, he

was unhittable. It was I mean, it's it was so cool to watch, except when it was in the postseason. The one yeah, one, Yeah, I just don't like to I'm not a Dodgers guy. I'm not a Dodgers guy either. I can't be a Dodgers. I mean, that's that's where I told them, I l a sports is tough for me. Well, I almost same, Like that's like the number one fighting, Like we fight all the time with those people. They're annoying. And also Lakers fans are fucking it. Other than Jack,

they're fucking annoying. Yeah, they really are because they they hate Lebron but then they accept his title and then then now they hate him again. Yeah, and they're just spoiled. They had like a couple bad years. I'm like, yeah, but you got those couple bad years because you got to have Kobe retire with you. You You got it. That's a privilege to have him only be a Laker. I'm only kind of a Lakers fan now because I met Jeanie Bussy and she's like really cool. She seems cool,

she's a sweetheart. She's I mean, I'm trying to get her on the podcast. I told her she's a badass man. I'm like, yo, come on the podcast. We would love to have Genie Buss on this pod. That's where I'm taking on, Like, I don't I can't stand the Dodgers, but you know, I like the Lakers. Have a really quick list. Lakers don't say you like him. Yeah, we have to acknowledge historically they are impressed. I mean, yeah,

it's they're fucking unbelievable. The Lakers franchise, fucking Lakers. All right, we're done with it. Fun fact, neither the Red Sox or Yankees made the playoffs this year in twenty fourteen, first time since ninety three. Another horrible year. Bad years. But guess what Yankees won in ninety six, so they don't have to wait that long. But yeah, this was Jeter's farewell tour this year in twenty fourteen, and I'll

give you that. Yeah, And I fucked with Jeter And it was crazy even to see Boston give him that ovation. That's that's why I was like, all right, Boston, that was pretty classy. They did it for Mariano too. They did not do it for a Rod last season for Bud seligas commissioner well Bud. Then pool Holes hits his five hundredth home run. It's seven hundred now so cool. I'm mad he's retiring. Pool Holes has more than pool Holes could be the home run champ if he gives

it like two more years. It's seven oh three right now, shits, he needs seven seven fifty five is the babe I believe? So let me double chack Bonds passed. The bay was seven sixty three, Bond seven sixty two. I was off by one. He could Poolholes could get there because he's still looking good. But it's crazy because he hasn't look good in years. I know there was a period where you didn't think you'd ever get to seven hundred, which but he did it. What were we doing in twenty fourteen?

What were you doing? Geez? I was a road comic. I was just doing the road I guess. I this was before I just right before I take my first comedy special for Comedy Central a half hour. Uh, and I didn't. I did an album and uh in Boston. In Boston, Yeah, I did a special there. I remember I did a very pere uh. Fuck. It's right across from the wilbur I forgot the name of the venue, but it was I remember. I got pure silence because

I did a Boston bombing joke. It was a terrible too soon, It was a terrible I said something along the lines of I was like, I was devastated when I heard about it. My first thought it was me and my brother. We don't do anything together anymore. Silence full. I had to save it. I saved it, but I was like fuck. I was like, you can't not take the risk. But how about you? You were You were just lost to the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs forty two

to fourteen. We just got blown out by the Chiefs on was it Monday Night football in the king in the Chiefs Kingdom or Arrowhead? They blew the socks off us. This is the game where Garoppolo came in and like the question was to Belichick after the game, are you thinking about benching Brady? And that's why they said We're on to Cincinnati. This is the onto Cincinnati game. This this is the game that single handedly sparked our season

to go on and win the Super Bowl of twenty four. Yeah, Trent dolper I believe said that you guys might not be good anymore. Yeah, Trent, Trent's eating those words so many times because we went and won three more after that. Yeah, fucking Trent. He's actually a smart guy. Is Trent Dolver the wor first quarterback ever to win a Super Bowl? Let me check on that, But he's the first one that comes to mind. Get the fuck out of here. Don't you ever say again? Jeez, Kyler, you eat that? Yeah, jeez, man,

I mean Dilfer is close. I mean he's top four, top three. He's a Super Bowl champ, though he is Joe Flacco. No, Flacco is better than Dilfer Flacco, but they're still Deller for when he backed up Phil. Yeah that since he just came in for one. What's the key ingredient to having those quarterbacks having a defense where it doesn't matter exactly all of those teams? Cheez, let's go into the teams. Let's do it. Giants eighty eight and seventy four second in the NL. I believe they

lost to the Dodgers. Yeah, to the Dodgers. Ugh finished six games behind the Dodgers. Yeah, they were coming off a season where they finished third. They had a letdown season after winning the World Series in twelve. Uh, they also wanted in ten Bruce Bouchie. Oh bouch loved Bouchie. He was always a cool dude. He was the manager All Stars, Hunter Pence, Bumgardner, and Tim Hudson, key players, Buster Posey, the catcher, he had the silver Slugger. He

was a badass. He was pretty good. He was pretty good. He got taken out. They changed the rule at the home plate for him. Remember when he got taken out. Madison Bumgardner, the countryman, hitting dingers, throwing shutouts, and then big time Timmy jim linsegum guys like five five foot two and was throwing gas. Let's go the Nationals. What are the Nationals? He looked like young Mick Jagger and he's throwing like one hundred and two. It was fucking crazy.

He was tiny. Can't forget Papulo's interval on that Giants team. Oh true, big Panda, good cat Panda and the Nationals. Yeah, ninety six and sixty six. They were first in the NL East, picked to win the NL East. Manager Matt Williams played as a Giant. Remember that I loved Matt Williams third base. That was the years. I used to love him. First manager, first year as a manager, he won Manager of the Year. This year they're all stars. Jordan Zimmerman, the guy who's throwing that night. Tyler clip

Yard he threw. Let's go back to Zimmerant. He threw a no hitter in the regular season finale. Wow, no, no key players. Anthony Rendon, he was a Golden Glove winner. Ian Desmond twenty four homers and ninety one Ribby's young Bryce Harper, a young young I was watching that game. Yeah, he was a young boy. Yeah. Steven Strasburg, remember him, he was He had always he had the arm problems.

He was a so Yeah. I remember he got the gas gas and then it took him like three years, two years to get back and he got gas again. Remember there are guys like that. Like remember like when the Cubs had Mark Pryor and carry Wood and it's like sometimes it's just hard to keep that arm cooking. It takes a lot to be a power pitcher, dude. Those it's gotta be hard when you're just throwing something as hard as you can all day, all day. Yeah, Like I I throw, I went out and like picked

up the glove and just played catch. I couldn't lift my arm for like two two weeks after. Wow, I'm scared just because you're you go out and you feel you're feeling it, you're throwing. Oh, I could throw this thing pretty far. Let's do some hard nineties. Let's do some ninety yards or ninety ft feet throws, because I was always the thing you had to get the ninety feet. Yeah. Couldn't lift my arm the next day, damn. Yeah. So

the game was a picture's due. It was Zimmerman and and Tim Hudson, who had a kind of a shitty record that year. I think I think it was like not thirteen no run support, no run support because the era was sick. But uh so this is a complete pitchers dual. Pence was thrown out trying to steal second in the second inning. Our guest, uh. The National scored in the third inning to go one zero, no score until the top of the ninth. The Giants rallied late with a man on first and second. Good old Panda

Sandoval drives in the tyne run. Posey was thrown out at home trying to uh take the lead. There. Cabrera and the manager of Matt Williams. Both were rejected in the tenth inning. Love it and then the Brandon Belt home run Flcondly, I'm like a manager getting ejected. It's classic because it's it's it will energize the team. I think it's the dumbest thing ever, too, Like get out literally, like that happens in no other sports. I've never seen sketball.

What happens basketball? Yeah, tossed, yeah, but like it's not even like a penalty or anything. They like it's like part of strategy some of theTimes, like shit, the boys need to pick me up. All right, Hey, fuck you, you're out here and the guys are rallying behind them. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous thing, but it's I mean, I used to remember remember old Loop Panela. He would just come out and kick dirt on people,

and I'm like, this is amazing. Old school guys are the best because they would do like the little tedious thing, like the most disrespectful, Like they would spit right next to him where it didn't hit them, but it was going towards them, but they would keep eye contact with them and then if and then they would spit again in if a little it got on the umpiece. You're out here. The dirt on the shoes is like, it's not a manly thing to do. You know, these are

like bulky men. You're like, oh fucking I'll ruin your shoes. So weird, you know, at their white cleats. We were fighting righting things we might have forgotten. Jordan Zimmerman, he threw a gem eight point two Indians, pitched only three hits, six strikeouts, one earned run. Uh. You know Immerman uh pitched a no hitter six days earlier. We covered that this was a pretty slow game. Look at the stat lines. Yeah, Bryce herper oh for seven at bats? Yeah, crazy Tim

Hudson seven inchine pitch. And Hudson wasn't like a pure strikeout guy. He was kind of like he'll find a spot, he'll throw a nice sinker. Yeah. Posey was three for six, that'll get you the haul. Yeah, oh he was. He was a fun ass player, Buster Posey. Oh yeah, I love I love catchers. It's such a it's such a gritty position, you know. Yeah, you he wasn't your guy. Don't tell me of an Affleck level story about Posey too. Yeah, I don't have an Affleck level story with Posy. He

was never your guy. I like Posey. I mean he's like the team general, but you could tell he was probably like I don't know he he remember he got hurt at at home plate. Yeah, they changed the rule. I loved that. I loved that. Damn. I love watching guys get murdered. Yeah. Hell yeah Pete Rose in the All Star Game taking a guy's head off, Like that's the most action I was a football player. Contact. It was awesome. It was an awesome rule. But you can't

fault him for that. It's the Buster Posey rule. I know. But was he complaining about it or what? Yeah, he broke his leg and then like he said that they changed the rule. You can't take out the catcher no more. Damn. It doesn't mean he's not a great player. And then I have he's a stud, stud but his catchers were always my fave. Like I was a huge war Hey pasad a guy growing up. He was just but he was my I have a shirt one jersey for the Yankees.

The hoar he Pasada man Benito Santiago, Yeah from the knees. Yeah, throwing out guys. Oh guy, Pudge Rodriguez. Pudge pudg is a lovable guy. Everyone loved punch. Oh my god, he was the most incredible defensive catcher I ever saw. It was lights out. I loved. I loved baseball catcher. Catchers. It's a there's they're always like the hardy guys. Both catchers and this one played all eighteen innings, all eighteen They had knees savers. Let me see if he there

was wearing them. I don't think they remember. It became a thing when knees savers came out. Guys wear them. But then the real catchers wouldn't wear the knee savers because they gutted it out. Dude, gotta be very pliable if be a catcher. I mean they gotta got on that TV twelve minute. That's a tough that's a tough eighteen inans eighteen. Ugh the finals. He's too good a hitter to take out. That's the thing. You can't take an an. Can you change position? You could, That's what

you could do. You could change someone on like first, put buster at first, because you're gonna be scooping and scoring all who hit the game winner? The first baseman? Yeah, belt and belt belt was Brandon Belt apparently huge dong. What are we doing over here, guys, looks like we got one pair of knees savers? Sorry, okay, who who's wearing knees savers? My man on the Nationals? That would be hold on, let me get his name here here. All right, Well it wasn't Puster, so all right, I

like him more. I guess I'm just glad we didn't have like two beefs in one episode. Man, because Affleck's gonna be hearing about this. No he's not. Oh it's this will get on his radar. Yeah, but New England sports legend having issues with Affleck. This is news. This is a news story. He's just gonna big league me. No he's not. Yeah, dude, we get you know, big league We need more receivers. We have no receivers. He's gonna big league me. You know he's going a big

league v Julian Edelman. I've had fourteen surgeries, blood sweating, tears for his team and he's just gonna just throw me under the bus. It's all right, Matt, I understand. But you know who never does that is Giants fans. I mean, I think Amani Tumor is one of the classiest guys I've ever seen. I love me some Mike Hilliard. I love I can go on and on about Giants wide receivers. I think they're all uh classy. Mario Manningham, U Plexico. We love you all here in New York. Yeah,

you know, Giants fans don't do that. One little comment about Nies Savers and we end up on Mario Manningham. Somehow that was Wilson Ramos by the way, my bed. The final score was two to one. The Giants go to up in the series two zero. Uh, let's go to the gaming corner presented by win Bet. What what's our prop? Beck gonna be? Hum? I got a good one? What do you got? How many times I can get or you group effort? How many times we can get out? Uh?

That you think of baseball during sex to delay orgasm. He's a baseball player. He must have heard of this. He's got the baseball to not come. You just try to stay in the sexual moment. I'm down. What what? What? What's the What's what? How many times we have to hit it? We can hit it at least two five, I think without making it uncomfortable. So that means we're hitting it three times. It is two five, it is according to Jack. All right, we're gonna be joined by

a hundred pence. But before then, let's take a quick break and let's welcome Hunter. Appreciate you coming. What's happening, Sam, And I'm doing aw saying this is quite an awesome little set you got here. Man, I'm pretty pumped. You got Jordan, you got like all the classics. Man. I'm feeling like a champion just sitting in this corner. Champion, champion, Yeah, I know, but I mean it's just like championships of everything. I mean, you got the John Madden over here. This

is sick. This is fun. You know. We got Brady and Belichick loving each other up, which is yeah, you know, that's that's just love. That's got you see that one, that's one of my favorite. That's the Remember when the Giants took the the bye week boat trip before the playoff game and then they got knocked out up top with Odell and everyone. Oh dang, I remember that actually, oh man, Yeah, I think the Cowboys did that too.

It was like that Romo had a bye week or something and went on went on like a vacation to Cabo. It sounds right, I remember that sounds they haven't won a play off game, so it seems focused. Was that when he was with Jessica Simpson or something. But did you go on anything? No? Absolutely not, absolutely not, Like you weren't allowed to curfew, right, No, you didn't have curfew. But football is different, you know, like we you have to prepare all week to be able to perform once

a week for three hours. So you're you're putting all your eggs in that basket, you know what I mean? So like you, it's so different. It's so much time to think about such a small window of time, right Like even like in baseball, you play every day, but when it comes to the playoffs, it feels like it

takes forever for the game to get there. Like you're just thinking, I can't imagine a whole week of just being in your dome that you know, you can't afford to slide, you know, a couple of games here or there, because every game is rather important. That's why my respect level for baseball players and their competitive stamina is fucking outrageous. Because I had I loved baseball, I just had way too much add I was a kid picking daisies, running around.

I couldn't I couldn't focus, and for someone to have the ability to focus, and it's crazy, we're getting into the game where you guys went like twenty five innings whatever, eighteen. It's so funny you bring up the add because I was like ten and we were doing baseball and we had the counselor the guy, the guy in charge. I space out at shortstop and he just sees me spacing out. So we just this is the day where you could just zing a hardball at a kid's face, just zings

me in the face, bloody nose, unconscious. And they was like, you got to pay attention. I was like, I fucking paid attention. After that, you got to pay attention. After a guy will fucking throw a ball at your face, you definitely learn, you know, that's that's a quick way to learn. You know, you can tell your kid, hey, don't touch the hot stove, but until they burn their hand, they don't really know what you're talking about. Yeah, child

abuse is good. I'm not saying first, I'm not saying child abuse, but like I guess I have the memory as a kid like. My parents were like no, no, no, and I just didn't understand it. And I was like, oh that's why they said, Yeah, when I learned from the pain. Yeah, sometimes I wouldn't. I wouldn't say throw baseball as at kid's face or burn your kid's hand. No, no, but experience is the best teacher. I guess would be

my You know what. The crazy thing about that is what my dad actually has thrown a ball at my face. I charged the mount on him when I was fourteen years old. I was pissed off. We were doing VP before a game. Charge the mount he won to me, went to the game with the bloody jersey. Yeah, and I learned never to to charge the mount on my dad. So you were actually charging the mountain. I charged. I was going to attack your dad. I tried to, but yeah, he's he's uh your Robin Ventura, he's Nolan Ryan. He

beat the shit out of you. Yell. It was crazy, but that's that's definitely that's the way I lived too. My parents were like, if you want to touch the stove, go ahead, touch the stove. You're gonna find out why you're not supposed to touch the stove. Yeah, so I had a My brother was four years older than me, and like when I when I was growing up, like he was the legend. He was the best player, and like my dad would have me catch him, so like and we had like a tramp we didn't have a backstop.

We're just in Texas, and he just puts the trampoline. He's like, use that as a backstop, and like he's going so hard, like I'm scared, and like he's like jamming, breaking my thumb, but like it's ricocheting and hitting me in the back of that. Yeah, and we're like, Dad, I don't think I need that the trampoline as a backstop anymore. Hey, it'll teach you how to block the ball. You're either tough or you're not right, like catch the ball. You can't back away. But let's let's get it. We

went off topic. Let's get into some of your accolades. My accolades, all right, Texas born and raised, played at UT Arlington. Yeah, Texas, Texas Arlington. Is that sound? We're not out of that Texas. Where's that Texas Uta? Yeah, it's in Arlington, Texas Arlington. I gotta get that. So it was like it was like a block away from my high school, was it? Yeah? I also played a year in junior college at Texarkana cheu coo guy. Heck yeah, baby.

Was that annoying to play so close to high school with like with everyone hitting you up for tickets all the time. No, man, I wasn't that popular UT Arlington baseball games. There's not that many fans there. It's not a University of Austin. This is yeah. But what's what's crazy is there was like three extraordinarily successful big leaguers on my team there. Who oh man Mark Low who was like a bullpen pitcher. He was with the Rangers when they went to the World Series. He was with Seattle.

And then Ryan Roberts, who was known as the Tatman. I don't know if you remember these you know these days, but he was had some good years with the Diamondbacks, played for the Yankees a little bit. But yeah, all three of us were went to ut Allington at the same time and both had all three had long careers. See, you could tell he's a good hitter because the way

he's looking me in the eyes. He's got a focus that like I can see him focusing, so that's what I picture your eyes looking like when you're looking at them. Our focus is improved. You see me play like, it's like twitchy. I'm a little everything's unorthodox. The high the high high pants. What's up with that? My all my boys, I told him you're coming on because we're all fucking we're all Giants fans. They're like, ask him, why is

he wear his socks like Babe Ruth. So I always liked him like high, just because it was comfortable, like when you're kid like and I had like these long, lanky legs. I could never get them to like really fit, so just pulling them up was just comfortable. And then it always annoyed me that it tugged on my knees.

But there was one day like, so, you know you're sliding or whatever, you're running, the fields aren't that soft, like, so I'm just like ripped bloody everywhere, right, And the pants with the Giants at the time were these like rubber bands that were just squeezing on a bloody open wound and on both of them, and I was just like, this freaking sucks, and like I just I need some relief. So I was just like I'm just gonna pull it up above my knee and then pull it down, and

it was like it felt so much better. And then all of a sudden, the pants weren't tugging at my knee. I felt faster, and and I was like, ah, no one's really gonna notice, but this feels so much better. So it was just some relief. But then I was just like I just I always mess with my team, like cause I I just I just like to talk shit like I'm just like, you know, I had a home wreck, and like I don't ever like show up the opponent, but when I come into the dugout like

I lose my mind. I'm like eat shit like whatever, you know. And and so I always called myself super speed, like I loved being on everyone complain Oh man, I gotta run to you know, I gotta score. From first, it's I loved it. I was like, I was like, I'm fucking super speed. I'm wide receiver speed. So like that was just my I was just messing with them, and I was like, super speed needs to be in wide receiver pants, and that was kind of the thing.

So it just started with bloody knees and then it just felt more functional, dude, It's so crazy what the mind does for an athlete. Like before you had to wear pads in your pants, no one was wearing like I didn't wear pads in my knee pads, thighpads in my pants my first like four years until they mandated it because like you're like, I don't feel it. You feel faster, and if you feel like you're faster, that's enough.

You're faster. Mental it's all men. So you didn't, so they mandate you have to have to no now and they have to be over your knees. Why would they force you to do that because they think it's gonna like they think it'll help you not tear an aco. I don't know, no funly bro dangna. But we love

the NFL. We love the NFL, So there's nothing because just to me, like for instance, like I guess there's like for me, it's like function is what mattered the most about it, like and also like feel like you said, if it gives me a mental edge like whatever, like looking sweet sometimes makes you feel a little better. I would always like try to add some like some random flare for the playoffs, just to feel a little sweeter. You know, what was your flair for this game? For

which game? For the eighteen inning l DS man, I don't even crazy, I think I don't even remember. I know. I think in twenty twelve, I was like unbuttoning a couple extra buttons because I'm naturally a nice guy, and I like when I take the field, like I have to become a different person. You have to be a little mean, like you have to have a little killer in you. And so it was like to like turn that on. I think that year I put like I did, like the little tight wristband around my bicep to just

show off ultra bicep. It will get you vascular when you cut the circulation. Yeah, so I had that like up here for that ageen digit. Yeah, that eighteen A game, man, that was interesting. That was like we talk about this like sometimes you think of baseball during sex to delay orgasm. This is the game talking about eighteen innings picture duel, you know. So I was thinking about it a couple of times. I have a lot of thoughts on this game,

but I want to hear y'all's questions. So do you do you ever think of baseball to delay orgasm, by the way, is that just No, I don't even think about baseball as a delayed orgasm. No, you've never heard about that. You think of baseball during sex to last longer? Oh that's how you bore yourself. Yeah, okay, you never heard that. No, he probably gets fired up. He's like, man, he's all you can't think about it this. Yeah, he's rock hard. Now I think a weight thought. I mean

definitely wouldn't like turn me on. I'm not like, ah, baseball, Yeah, this is sexy. Do you do you do it? Or no? I have I have Wade Bogs in my head and Yankees pinstripes and it's just like that weird lefty swing and I'm just like, I'm hard as a rock. I stay good. No, never heard of that. I've heard of it. I've heard of it, but I've never I'm sure of the opposite though, Like I got a like hyper focus to actually get off, like it's like an effort. Interesting. Yeah,

I mean you are a competitor. That guy's got, Like I said, competitive stamming the lock in competitive eighteen inning game. I mean this was like I got a question the way to it. Let's lead into this so you get traded to the Giants in twelve. Yeah, he was on the Astros. H I was on the Phillies. Phillies, you drafted Astro drafted Astros trade to the Phillies twenty eleven. Probably the best most talented team I was ever on. It was like Roy Holliday, Cliff Lee, both side young candidates.

Cole Hamil's was our three and Royals Walt was our four. That's insane that Coarl Hamil's was a three. Yeah, Cole hamils was a three. That's insane. And this is in his prime. Madson is our setup guy who's like an elite closer. World Series Champion closer. Brad Lidge is our actual closer. Yeah. Like our team was like absolutely insane. It was like Brian Howard hit forty homers that year. Utlely yeah, uh you know me and my prime, Like it was that team was insane. Did it hurt to

get traded off this stacked team? Uh? Well? The next year so we were like four games out the next year, and I remember Howard and Utley were out, so it was literally just me, j Roll, Victory know, Ruiz was having a heck of a season, but we were missing Utley and Howard. Yeah, well luckily you were in Philadelphia, which is a very forgiving fan base. Yeah yeah, yeah. We were four games out and so it was super weird,

Like I did not expect to be traded that. I was like, dude, we're gonna We're gonna come back, We're gonna win this division. We were on like a streak. We're getting to Utlely, We're getting Howard back, and they trade Victorino, they trade me, and like I was like super shocked. How does that go down? Hey, yo, Hunter, you we gotta talk to you, dude, bring your playbook, Like what is that? What is it? What is getting? Do you get traded? How do they is it your agent?

Did you find out from your agent first or the manager give it to you? This is super weird. Like so the night before there was like a fake Twitter thing where they were like just all the Giants fans were like, we got on our pants. We traded that like as a fake thing the night before, And I was like what, Like, so I thought I was trading and I was like, no, You're not trading. And this is like kind of pre Twitter. It's like this is like the beginning of the beginning, like it was like

it was like a troll. They were like trolling me. And then the next day, you know, so that happened. We had an off day in Washington. The next day, I wake up and ESPN starts saying Hunter Pence traded to the Giants. This is how you find out. I see a ticking and I'm like, it's super weird because I'm like, you know, I'm headed to the field with ty Wiggington a couple of the teammates and they're like, hey, man, it says you're traded. I was like, I haven't heard anything,

and so I'm like, what do I do. I was like, I guess I go to the field. So we're all in a cab headed to the field and I get a call from Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, the GM at the time, and he's like, hey, look like I just want you to know, like, you know, we've traded you the Giants, but like we don't want this to be you know, we want to talk to you whenever you become a free agent. Like so he was actually super cool. How

many years do you have on your deal? I still had the next so it was like I was going to play this year and the next year arbitration. How do you feel about them saying that to you, we still want to work this out someday. It actually made

me feel a little better. But I was definitely like when I first got traded, like I was like having nightmares and like waking up thinking I was still with the field because I was like I was so set and I'm a big like like like psychology guy, like I do a lot of mental work and I and I'm a big like like cerebral like thinker, like I

believe our thoughts are really powerful. So like I remember that year I was reading this book like Think and Grow Rich, and it was like talking about your affirmations and emotions, and I would just be on the bus with the Phillies, like even when we lost, I was like, I'm a World Series champion right now, right now, I'd try to fill the bus with my thoughts like everywhere, like seeing it as a Philly. And then when I got traded, I was like, what the It was super crazy?

Is that where? Because I heard you get you you were the guy that gave pregame speeches in SF and it came from Yeah, I honestly I believe that I summon like a like I believe that I built such thought momentum that I was just like guided to say the right thing at the right time if I was just bold enough to do it. Yeah, and so like

it all just kind of unfolded. It's this weird path of like like knowing when to say something everyone like getting everyone to chip in and at the end of the day, like unless you're about it, like you can say and talk to your blue in this face, but like if you're not that dude that's like about it and like means it and like like they're not gonna really care or listen. Goes with that. Actions are just dreams boys. Yeah, you have to act. You have to

be it, Like I gotta be it. And I was literally like just I had like thought it, thought it, put in the work, done the action. Like just like I all I could would think about, like all day every day, like while we were in these runs, is like I love this team. I love this game. We're gonna win today. I would just like repeat that over and over and over again in my mind. You know the team. You always need a guy like that too, Because I was quite the opposite I was like, oh fuck,

we're gonna lose. We're feeling complacent. This guy had a terrible practice. What the fuck are we doing. I can't sleep at night because we didn't get this play call in right at practice. You know, so you need to we're seeing all the worms and not the apple. You got it, you know, but you need both. You need both because you need you need an asshole to let motherfuckers know like this ain't acceptable, and you know, but you also need guys like Hunter were, Hey, you need

the optimism, you need this, you know, the mindset. So I think it's a good contrast. We always had those kind of things, like I was always the bad cop when Tom was be the good cop because Tom couldn't be the bad cop because if Tom was the bad cop with some guys, they'd shit their pants, you know what I mean. The guys were watching them when they were two years old. They come into the locker room. Tom says, hey, dude, you got to get to your depth on this route. The guy's like, oh shit, he's

never gonna throw the ball at this. But if I go up to him say, motherfucker gets your route, then he doesn't know it's coming. From Tom and we can all play ball. Pisses him off, then he goes and plays his best ball. So absolutely, Like I actually do think that you have to have confrontation, yes, like if you actually care, Like it's like, what's your intention behind your action? Right, Like if you're like, hey, motherfucker, you got to get to this ball, it's to make the

team better, Like it's to make him better. It's not like it's not like, hey man, I don't like you. It's like no, like like, let's fucking tighten this round. I know if I'm afraid to address that or confront because there's a lot of egos. It's it's it's it's professional sport people that don't want to think that they ever mess up. But someone has to know. You have to have like you have to have some asshole in

the fucking clubhouse always. But how do you walk that line between being the asshole and being like this like enthusiastic motivator. Yeah. I was not that great at being the asshole, but I did learn how to approach things properly, right like or work on it, or get the like have the right good cup bad cup. Like Buster didn't mind being the asshole. Yeah, you know, like he didn't mind. His name is literally Buster, you got to be the assholes, Like well, I mean, but you know when it's coming

from Buster, like he was crazy man. He sees so everyone, what everyone does, he knows what everyone's doing. Is able to manage his wife, his kids, Like it's just insane what he's able to accomplish. But he would like know what every bullpen pitcher was doing, what every position player, Like he would get mad at Belt for never trying a new bat. He'd be like, dude, try a new bat, Like you've someone in the same bat for eight years, Like you know, just like little weird things like he

knows what bat you're swinging. He knows how you're stretching, when you're stretching, what time you went to the training room and he didn't even get there in time. It's like, yeah, it's it's leadership. But yeah, at the forms of different leadership at the end of the day, No, I think you're right. It takes a balance and you can't just have all all good, all good like like and if I even went into the message of my whole speech, that's a whole nother story like the one in twenty twelve,

the one that I think actually had an impact. Yeah, Like which one was that? The one in twenty twelve in Cincinnati. But do you remember anything from that? I remember. I remember the message, like the main message of it, and basically it's basically SCIENTI from the demon. Yeah, it's dimmed from the demon of losing in twenty eleven and

feeling that pain and being on like the best team ever. Yeah, and like everyone on that that year was like in two thousand and eight, this, in two thousand and eight that, because that's when the Phillies won the World Series. And then like you know, I'm here on the Giants and the like in twenty ten this and twenty ten that, and this is what the Red Sox did, and like when they came back, and I was like, I don't

give a fuck what they did. Yeah, your team, Like, it doesn't matter what you know, what happened in twenty ten, two thousand and eight, It doesn't matter what the Red Sox. All that matters is what we in this room decide, because it's right fucking now. And I was like, I made my fucking decision. I don't care if we have to win one hundred games in a row. I'm going out there and I'm giving everything I have because I want to play another day. I fucking love this game.

I'm not ready to go home. Yeah, I want to run through the fucking wall me too, Like it wasn't and so like I guess, like when I look back on it, like what does that do? It frees you from trying to force it, because I remember in twenty eleven, everyone's like, oh, I'm gonna be the guy. I'm gonna make it happen. But you can't force things. You can't try to force yourself to be the guy you get in rhythm when everyone's like I'm just gonna give what I got and that's enough, and I'm gonna if a

walk happens here, that's enough. If it's just like going and diving for a fly ball down the line, like that's my moment. Like just be in your moment and take care of your business, and we're gonna do this together because like we want to be here, we're not because you're trying to like be the hero versus just be yourself and like it's like, fuck it, I don't care what anyone's happened. Like I've made my decision. Yeah, it's such a good reminder, like you're here because you

love this too. You don't get to the level you get to without the work and the discipline of love for the game. So if you think, like, shit, i would do this for fifty grand a year and I'm getting paid way more than that, let's fucking go out and have fun. Yeah, you know, yeah, Yeah, it was like, remember how fun it is to be here, and like, yeah, how do we get our best selves out there? And you got to free yourself from the fear of like

what could we lose versus like this is what we have. Now, what what's Brian Wilson doing when you're giving these speech? Brian Wilson was amazing, uh, and he was hurt this year, but he like he brought a lot so like, honestly, a lot of the speech came from a conversation with Hobby Lopez, who's won four World Series side arm Lefty, one of the greatest communicators. He was kind of a good bad cop. He was a guy it's like, ah,

we're not fucking doing this, We're not. And he was the one that said if we don't say something, we're fucking dead because we were down oh two to the Reds. We had to play three games there. They hadn't lost two in a row since like April. Yeah, this is October. Uh And and he's like and he was like, it was the same feeling that we had with the Phillies in Game five, where everyone was just kind of like hahaha,

like kind of quiet. Yeah. And it was him and Scutero and Wilson, and I was like, well, I'll fucking say anything. Let's go like what do you want to say? What do you want to say? So I kind of collected like some of their thoughts, and Wilson was like, he like got on board. He's like, you're fucking right, Like every breath I take, there's a win every hemoglobe in every he was like, He's like, all of the fucking all of my chromosomes, every cell of my body

is coming to help you win. Like he was just like, I feel like a lot of you guys got your energy from Charlie Sheen Tiger Blood. I feel I feel like I feel like Brian Wilson. He was like straight comedy, but he was yeah, definitely Charlie Sheen, Tiger Budd even though I don't know if that was out yet and in a mixture of like Will Ferrell, it probably was out. I used to watch Brian Wilson's YouTube videos with the machine. Oh yeah, that guy. You sure that was Burrel? Was it?

He would because he actually he would just do that at parties. He would just put on a thong in the head and he would just smoke a cigarette in

the corner. By the way, that's the scariest dude. Girls home from the bar, and then and then just yeah, times were crazy before cell phone pictures and cameras, right, b Yeah, Like, yes, I've heard some Pat Burrell's stories, trust me, because I grew up in the area and there's some girls that I know that were from that that used to hang out with a lot of the giants games and exactly what you said I heard, Well, won't get I think he did it for a reaction. Though,

like I I've never seen this. I just had a lot of friends that were friends with Burl and would just tell these stories. So it's like, I can't say that any of this is true. It's just what I've heard about Burl from some of his friends that like love him, and they just say that he's just just a wild character and just loves to get reactions out of people. So you guys were a fucking pretty that like, that's a fun team. It was a real fund and that probably helped. So, yeah, it was in Pablo and

his heyday. These guys were crazy, man. Yeah, at a bunch of it looks like a movie like because you're like just the look of like Lensicumb and Pablo, like they all look like a movie character, you know, in like Major League. There were rock stars, man, and they were they. I would go out in the Marina when I come home to go visit my friends, and I was playing on the Pats and you'd see a fucking just flob of people around like a bar. I'm like,

what's going on over there? Like the giants are over there? Well, Lins looks there. I was like, nah, Tim barely ever, Like he was like he's kind of I think he hit me up. Well someone hit me up with his name on Twitter and it was verified, but I don't think it was him because he kept on like hit It was weird. It felt like a weird interaction. He asked you for dick picks and you were like I don't think this is Tim Linsey. Come, that's not Timlinz No,

But is he a football fan. I don't because then if he's not, then he's definitely it's definitely not timlin He's not hardcore football fan. I don't think. I mean, I think he maybe watches it. Like he's kind of like a Seattle guy. He's different than you would think, but like, well what you like, I mean, Timmy was Timmy wanted to be by himself. He's kind of social anxious, but like he's one of the biggest givers. Like he's like the softest, sweetest guy. He was like the craziest athlete,

like he could. He bought Like when I say biggest givers, he bought you remember those little things that you could scoot around like that the hoverboards or whatever. He bought the whole team. He bought like fifty five of him and just gave him because he loved him so much. He'd be like running around on on one foot, like dancing, like he could just do like all sorts of crazy

gymnast stuff. But like he was like the nice, friendliest, like didn't want to like bother anyone, wanted to just hang out his room play video games and smoke weed like and that's like all he wanted to do. But when he got into competition, he like fucking could not lose. Like he was just like he wouldn't even play video games against anyone because he's like, I'm I can't lose, Like if I lose, it's it's bad. And so he just like wouldn't ever play against anyone but the computer.

So it was like this super nice, the nicest guy you ever met. Like he's like literally on top of the world but afraid of the world. But then when he takes the mound, he's like he's five foot nothing, one hundred and forty pounds, but he's like this ultimate killer. He just becomes a killer. Yeah, like you're fucking staying there and like I'm gonna I'm gonna strike you out, like I'm gonna whoop your ass, and just that competitive

spirit that killer came out in this little sweet soul. Yeah, dude it And I didn't know he was a gymnast, but that explains everything. Why a five foot nothing guy he's not actually a gymnast, but he could just do acrobatic Yeah, but that's just that leverage strength and that athletics, like functional athleticism is huge to get you know, make that kind of power being that small. Let's get to twenty fourteen. Okay, you guys are on a nine game

winning streak. You're in and you're playing it getting ready for this game in the NLDS Washington National Washington Nationals. Now, what do you what's your mindset going into this? Like, are you guys thinking, you guys are you're going to the ship or you guys pissed off from the year before when you didn't get there because they went to it and you guys went to it in twelve. How what was your approach going into this series in twenty fourteen. Yeah,

so let's rewind twenty fourteen. So basically twenty twelve we won the division, like we took off with it, right, Yeah, that's that's a different animal. Fourteen we have Bumgunner, I

think bum Gunner versus Kershaw or something in LA. They're looking to win the division and crazy clutch game like like we didn't score anything for Bomb, he gave up like one maybe two runs, maybe even hit a solo homer and lost like two to one, and like LA's going nuts on us, like they're like flicking us off on our bus, like we can't barely get out of there, and so we lose. We lose the division in LA with our guy on the mound, and we're just like

everyone's down. And I knew we were gonna eventually, like we're gonna eventually get to the wildcard game, right, So I'm talking with Vogue and he's like, man, we just fucking don't have what we had similar to you, Like, he's like, we don't have what we had in twenty twelve. I was like, no, like we had when we came into spring training and we were like one fucking step closer to the World Series, Like all that matters, Like our only goal is to be a World Series champion.

And guess what, when we make the wildcard, we're still on the path and now we get to celebrate more. There's another game, Like it does not matter who won the division, it matters what we do in the playoffs. Was kind of like my mindset, and he's like, yeah, yeah,

but we just we aren't. We aren't that team. And I was like, we have to make sure that when we win this wild card, even though we just took this gut punch that we realized that it's how it doesn't matter how you get A to B, we're going to be and we have to fucking celebrate this and realize that being in the playoffs is not guaranteed and

it's a fucking accomplishment. So I like, and that's when the whole hundred motherfucking pence because like they brought in live cameras while I'm saying this to the team and I'm dropping, like all my f bombs can just get in the f bomb zone and uh and I'm like and and basically I'm like, when when we finally sealed our deal, we were going to Pittsburgh. I'm sorry, this isn't the Nationals, but we're going to Pittsburgh. And I'm like, hey,

they're pitching their ace. They pitched Cole to try because they could have won the division on the last day, and I'm looking for any mental edge. I'm like, look, they're gonna be pissed that they have to play the wild card game. They've lost a couple of them. They're gonna we're having to play on the road no matter what. But they're so we're gonna face Vocas, not Cole. They the Cardinals end up winning, the Pirates win, so they end up falling to the wild card. I'm like, they're

gonn be pissed about this. We got to go in there like hell fucking yeah, Like we got bum ready, we got our ace ready, and like we're gonna fucking burn this city to the ground. Like like so we were all prepped and ready for that game. It'd be great if you actually just burn the city to the ground. I mean it's it's a it's a metaphor for like like literally understand you a couple of cities down. Yeah, you played with that same energy. So and I remember Jake Peev like he was like afraid of all the

fucking the you know, the turbulence. You get a lot of turbulence in the summer, and the fucking planes doing all this. And we're landed into Pittsburgh and Pee gets up and he screams, the holy fucking they're worried about is if there's played Lynch Pittsburgh is fuck God damn, this played off the ground. I'll never forget that. And we were all like hell yeah, oh yeah, Jesus, you just got to look at the flight attendant as long as they're not freaking out. I mean, that's my that's

my trick. If you see where you get your faith is through the flight attendants. Absolutely, if you see if you see them doing like one of these, I'm like, fuck this ship, we're going down. But as long as they're as long as they're looking cool, good dude. We had a teammate once and a story just broke about it.

We signed this kid. He was like a guard. Yeah, in the middle of the season, we were banged up, and they bring a group of the guys in like the leaders to talk, like, all right, guys, this guy's got like a like an insane case of add We got to be on him because we need him this game. He needs to perform like it was a division round, and like just to be sure, guys, like this guy's he's a little weird, you know. So he goes out and we have him, he practices, he's all right, I'm like,

all right, we'll see what's up. We get in the plane and like he takes like crazy medication for this add stuff or whatever, and we get up and he's he go he has like a reaction or something, and like he's trying to get out of the plane. First week on the team, trying to get out of the plane, our trainers go and get Will Fork or I think it was Will Fork or someone like, yo, we need you to get hold this guy down. They had to like put this guy in a stray jacket. We had to.

We flew back, dropped him off. It was fucking while we're in the air. And then one of our other teammates, Patrick Chung, he doesn't even fucking like flying. He flew back when once we flew there, he wouldn't fly back with our team plane. He flew back commercial because he thought there was like an hex or something on the plane, and so we got I mean, it was a fucking it was a ship storm. He's doing this shit on like on the adderall he's still taking I don't know

what it was. He was on some medication with the motherfucker like they were holding him down, belting on, turning red and he's like a three hundred and ten pounds of flight on the flight's try and get out of the plane. We had to like tranquilize this motherfucker. It was it was crazy. I don't know. We used to take I used to take adderall before it. Fights with my ex. I know she would kill me if I

didn't take it. But but if I popped an adderall, I'm like, I could fucking I could be like Bradley Cooper and limitless and I could hold my own you find angle? Do you know what I mean? I know that what adderall is. It's the limit. You focus, You focus like a motherfucker. We can't do it. We couldn't take adderall. NFL you have to have like a TU, and do you not allow to take adderall? You have to? No, it's it's really tough. Like it's guys take it, but

it's tough to get the prescription. You got to go through the NFL doctors. But you said you had a d D. Yeah, but I had too much add even go through the fucking procedures to even do that. Ship Like I couldn't even take it to the procedure. Yeah. No, there's a lot of baseball players that get the TU or whatever. I never had one. I just I looked like it because I drank so much coffee, but I was twitchy. How much how many coffees a day? A lot? Man?

Like like six? Like easy? Yeah, easily? Wow? Just coffee, or I'll do a pot before I go to the coffee shop, like a soda, like a pot of coffee at home, I'll do like a ten cup pot of coffee. Like the whole thing is. I'll drink the whole thing. And they go to the coffee shop get two espressos. Like I'm like numb to that. Do you do you have? But doesn't that make you have your pist during the game? I mean, yeah, I piss in between every inning because

I'm also hydrating at the same time. Yeah, there's a there's a bathroom in the dugout, you know. Yeah that makes sense. I didn't know. Yeah you don't think. I guess other sports you don't have that. Like football, you don't have that. You have to like leave the field. Oh damn, you can't go to the bathroom the whole game. I piss on, I pissed. I used to piss on the sideline. Really actually had a teammate ship on the sideline. We gotta do what you gotta do to play, right, dude, Yes,

you do it. It was like you get these two little like intern trainers that like come out and put towels around you. You see a fucking New York Jets fan, like motherfucking you laughing, like you're like pissing and ship, Yeah, your asses hanging out because your pants are so hard to put on, and ship you barely get your dong out because like it's too tight, and you're like, oh shit, that does suck. It does not sound like fun. It sucks.

How much do you hear fans while you're playing. I don't hear them as much in the game, like it on the sideline when we're like in between drives here and there. It depends on the game, you know, Like if we're playing like a scrub team, you'll you'll hear things because you're already blowing them out, you know what I mean. But like when you're in the in the moment, when you're on the sideline, it's like it's procedural. You have to go through the assign I go through my

plays of the previous drive. I want to sit and talk with Brady and what he's thinking for the next drive. Then you go meet over with the or the quarterback coach McDaniels and the receiver coach. It's like it's all like what are we doing? How woul do we get better next drive. Can't think about that shit. You know what, what's some of the coolest stuff that's ever been like accomplished in that part or like like for instance, like cause like I love like watching sports for inspiration and

just seeing you know, you're inspired by the moment. And I remember, this is a weird one, but I'm a tyrend Matthew fan, And like when Kansas City was losing and their Super Bowl win, they were like down I think twenty one or something like quite a bit and matt and there was something that happened and Matthew just like lost his mind and I was like, oh damn, this is fucking awesome. And they obviously, like from that moment on, the defense just locked it down and they

came back and won. I got to who did they beat, matt Niners? Yeah, But like I do you think that that had as big an impact as I thought it did? Did you see that game? Did you which a game? Was it? The Super Bowl? With the Niners and the and the Chiefs Niners? Chiefs? Mathis Matthew Tyrone. I think that's just players making plays in big time situations. That's subconsciously in his head from his preparation. That's what I believe.

You know, everything that he studied in the game, something went wrong and he was just like hey, yeah clean it. The or then the like the information he studied all week. The more you study and the better you practice, then

it's subconsciously in your head. I feel so. Then maybe it just clicked in after something that they talked about, or they got a tendency breaker on something, or he knows the snap count when the does something like this, like there's little shit like that that he probably could have got a hold of that gave him. Yeah, because it like it switched right after that. So what has there ever been like something? Yeah, so it's been. I

would like to hear some of those stories. Yeah. The super Bowl in fourteen, crazy same year, uh against Seattle. We put in this play on the game when it like on the last touchdown I scored. It was the ex return. All week we were preparing for like a different coverage in the red area, cover seven, cover four.

It's like a zone type of thing, and they were playing a lot more man post safety man where they do one cheat, they'd have the safety go over to Gronk, they'd leave me backside one on one and so we put in on the sideline. Yo, let's do ex return. We'll do a spin on the front side and you'll be the first read. And we ended up scoring on it. So you know, that's the kind of shit that happens. That's the collaborative effort of what people see each and

every drive. Like that's what happens on the sideline. So you prepared for one thing and then you kept it fluid in dynamic to the moment, which is like something that a lot of times in baseball they miss out on being dynamic. They'll give you like a game plan as a pitcher and it's like this batter, you know, it's cold here, come here. But then like a hitter could be like like for instance, I don't know if you'll watch the game last night where gen Carlo just

hit that that cutter away. Yeah, like one he was sitting cutter the whole at bat. Yeah, and like if Hedges could have maybe seen that, like you know, just like his his takes kind of showed it and he painted he put it through. I mean Francona said he left it up, but it was painted away. It was like middle of the plate, you know, not down, but yeah, there's no way you're hitting that unless you're completely looking for and that's what gets lost if you're not staying dynamic.

And yeah, it's cool that it's similar in football. Let's let's get to the game though, I mean, this is an eighteen inning game. Zimmerman is is we haven't gotten through our first Well, all right, that's what this podcast really is. It's it's honestly, we like the conversation with the people about, you know, their career and what they do and leading to the game. I think it all matters. Yeah, you want to cover everything, but I mean this is

this is eighteen innings. Zimmerman is dealing on you guys. I mean he is in the zone. We found out he's not Jewish, which we were bummed about. Maudulian never talking about it. Although let's just let's just say if Kanye here's the name, he's not going to be happy. So is he one of us? We don't know you but Kanye, but uh, he's He's dealing on you guys. I mean, is this is this tough as a bat?

Or is this in your head at all? At a certain point, I think every at bat is like compounding on it, on it, you know, on top of the other. So you're just like you're just getting ready for each of bat and he just keeps getting you out so like you know, but our pitching was keeping it close. So you just like keep moving, keep moving. Stand in the moment, Stand in the moment. How do you a vet?

He's like, what thirty eight here? Yeah? How do he was you know, smoking mirrors, throwing smoke bombs up there and yeah, that was his joke that he would always talk about smoking baby keep doing because it was like turbo sinker. It wasn't really fast, but it's just freaking smoke bob. Yeah, and he was so good at it. Amazing, amazing leader. Tim HUD's an amazing career. Yeah. I remember when he was on Oakland and it was like zto

Molder and I loved the way he did his hat. Yeah, always had a cool hat, like it was like a little box here. He had to get a little you know, if I can, if I can give a cool story on Hudey. And once again, we're not on on with this with this. So when we first get him was in twenty fourteen, and I remember we were like five innings in the game and someone gets like a blooper or he walks a guy like someone gets a blooper

or whatever. And then and then like we may be like something happens like just the weakest run ever scored and we're losing one to nothing in the fifth and he comes in and like this is like one of his first games, and he just freaking fires his glove into the thing and I'm like, oh God, like he's pissed at because like we it was like kind of bad defense or something. It's like, oh, he's pissed at

aut hees fuck gosh, what bad? Pick me up? And what he said his bad Like that was not his bad, and it just like it got us all fired up, like because we had never seen anything like that before and it like changed all of our pitching staff when they saw that that like that that he took the l instead of blaming you get, yeah, he was like my bad boys big bayup and like yeah, and it was like totally not his fault. You know. That's I'm a big Hudson guy. Even more now he points He

doesn't point fingers, he points thumbs. Yeah, my kind of guy. He's a thumb guy. He also is a dude that didn't get a ton of unsupported a lot of his and he always had a good yard. Dude, he lit up a room like he was just a funny like would just tell the funniest stories, was always laughing, Like you want to talk about like the John Wayne of baseball. It's just like fucking coolest shit man. You always have that. You always have a guy that's just cool. Yeah, regardless,

he's just cool. Yeah, Like everything he did was just fucking cool and awesome. So you guys are in, you know, kind of a picture's duel. How do you how do you how do you keep that stamp? Like? Does it bum you out? Does it frustrate you? Or like you said, you compound it? Are you just waiting for the so damned to break? So let me give you the cool

story of this whole game. So you know, me and Peepe were always looking for things to just like latch onto and to just go like just go bananas and the dugout because like we believe in like energy because it can get stale. And Zimmerman is just freaking dominating us and like all of a sudden, I don't remember exactly when but they pulled him out in the ninth inning. Yeah, and it was back when pictures would go nine in.

It was like just a walk or something to Joe panic, and like it was like kind of a borderline even Joe panic. Joe panic got a walk. He gave him the panic button. Yeah, the guy gave him the panic button all of a sudden, and so they have their closer. Was like a one something era, like, uh, I don't even I should remember his name, but I don't remember exactly, but I remember that like the last two months he like hadn't given up a run. He was like lights out.

But we still like when they took him out, we're like, he's not going to finish the game. He doesn't want to win. They're scared. We can start screaming this it's like this is our game. Now he's coming out. Was this before his his dinger or after before you said before who's dying? This isn't this is the ninth This is nice. We're down a run like it's like one nothing. Yeah, but doesn't do's a double. He brings the guys it's

a double or something. So but they they it was just it was just a walk to Panic, right, and then I think, I think, uh Buster hits a single. Once they bring in Stop. I forget what this guy's name was, but uh Buster hits a single. Panic gets like first and second, and and then we had like gone, you know, crazy, and then Buster hit or Pablo hits the double and Buster gets thrown out at home, so

the ending ends, but we tied the game. And then that's when I think, you Smiro Petit, who, by the way, this was like the unsung hero of this whole playoffs in twenty fourteen that nobody talks about. He threw six innings, didn't give up a run, extra innings, like like, I mean, you smile Petit. That season he had he broke the record for the most perfect innings thrown of all time. Yeah, and you know what it ended on. They gave him a start. This is during the season. Nobody really knows this.

I still have nightmares about it. They give Yusmiro Petite a start and he goes eight and two thirds. They pinch hit Eric Chavez, who every single hit he had gotten was the other way against US the whole season, and so at ninth inning, two outs, perfect game online. This dude's already broken the record. He did it all from being a bullpen guy, like just mop up innings and then just like he ends up having a great career. Still no one talks about because he has no sauce,

no like, no flair. He just like calmly, whoops your ass, It throws eighty nine miles an hour and just dots everything little movement, just like he's just like this dude

that play has a dip in plays cards. He's like just the ultimate teammate, always happy and so sure enough, I screwed over like two steps to the right perfect game right here, like we've only seen Matt Kaine in San Francisco, and Chavez leans out on a curve ball and flicks a top spinner in front of me, and I felt like, you know those dreams where you can't run.

It like literally felt like time slow down and I just couldn't run, and I like dive and it's like three feet probably the two steps that I took the other way away from me. That was the end of his perfect game and his perfect run. And I'm still upset about it. And he's one of the greatest one he probably he probably didn't he's probably the kind of guy he's like he definitely didn't blame me at all, but I still to this day and like, dude, he's

just like he's an unbelievable human. Just you know when that's the cool. And he goes in extra innings and gets those six against the Nationals, who were like the best team in the league. They were like the Seed just shut them down for forever, like we just kept not scoring. He kept shutting them down, Like you had a double in the twelfth I think it was, Yeah, the leadoff double. Is that a double got stranded? That must have been tough because you're like this has been

going on for so fucking long. I mean that was like once again, that was a whole team of pointers, like no one's ever like you didn't get me in Like everyone was just like let's go, let's go, next up, next up. That was just it. When did you when did you know you guys were getting there? Like when did you know? Did you know that you guys were gonna come up with this winner? Did you? Or it's just kind of like like like, I mean, you're just

so exhausted. This is where I you know, the whole new runner at second Rule and the regular season I think is good because we play one hundred and sixty two and like it gets so hard to hit because the relievers are coming in fresh and you're just like exhausted, and I just kept running up trying to eat bananas and like protein bars whatever, But just is there coffee

brewing in the dugout? Yeah, there's there's coffee, there's water, there's whatever, But like there's nothing really bringing you back from this. You're like dead. Like when Belt hit that home er, I was just so relieved because yeah, I just had nothing in the tank. Yeah. And by the way,

I'm gonna back up a little bit. After we beat the Pirates, I remember Huddy said this, and at the time I was like, oh, no, like you fed them, But like I think it actually got it helped us a lot because it kind of pissed off the Nationals and then they were I felt like they were like

trying a little bit harder. But like whenever they asked Huddy like this question, they were like, you know, you're going up against the number one seed they won one hundred and whatever games, and like, how does it feel going to against to theam He's like, yeah, they're probably the more talented team, but the playoffs is what's in between your legs. And we were like, oh shit, I was drinking my bad like like and like he's like

I had to. I had to show up when I pitched after I said that I could let you guys, don't it was just like swinging so hard, trying to hit homers like it just like it kind of like weirdly worked out for us. Yeah, that's some Jedi mind trick. Shit. Yeah, he felt bad about it. We're like, sorry, honey, like why did you do that? But it's alright, man. So you guys, you get mad when you give bulletin board material.

You don't ever want to give bulletin boar. And he didn't mean like if you know, Hodey, he was probably just like he had one. He was drinking, he was pumped, and he was just like, you know, because he was kind of the guys that just had you know, just like had the guts, had the balls, and like fucking called him out. Well, you guys officially have bigger dicks than the Nationals. Nah. I wouldn't say that they ended up one in twenty nineteen. This series, you had bigger

dicks we got we got it done. It was it was you know, sometimes it's your time. Yeah, that's pretty cool. He said that. You didn't even know that. That's about No, that's fucking awesome. It's probably gonna be mad that I brought it up. I'm sorry, Hoddy Nah didn't get it. That's only gonna make you cool. The veteran doing that is pretty badass too. I think that's that's pretty cool. So anyway, Yeah, basically belt hits the Homer. We get that w and then the other felts got a belt.

That's how they got a belt. I remember when they brought him up. Yeah, wasn't he was a farm he was farmed to the giants, right belt. Yeah, I remember. He's a Texas guy. Yeah, it's a University of Texas. They had a lot of hype. He was like they hyped him up when they brought him up because I used to like, I used to read here and there about you guys, because when you're on the East Coast, you don't get it's fucking twelve o'clock when you guys come on, you know what I mean. So it's so

tough and you guys go intill one. We got practice at seven. It's pretty cool you followed us though, because you know, we always we always followed obviously, we all Patriots things. We're a legendary our our strength trainer is the biggest Patriots fan of all time. And and so like I love to like talk shit to him. That's like my ultimate thing. And like because like all you

would do is like Brady Brady. Brady's the greatest. He'd have these huge Patriots flags and and honestly, I I at one point, like I used to like not root. I was like always rooting against y'allah. And at one point I was finally like, you know what, this is freaking badass what he's doing. And he gave me like the TB twelve like pliabilities, like Hunter, are you working on your pliability? Man? You got he would tom would hate the amount of coffee that you does. He never

touch coffe He doesn't like caffeine. It's bad for the muscle playability. Oh, it is very bad for the pliability. Okay, baby, all right, he doesn't need tomatoes though, well it's got an inflammation factor for his blood type that could not make his muscles pliable. So I'm not even anything is there was like a was it. There was like a thing that he did that I watched where he was like getting onto you for lifting weight. She's like, why

are you scared? Why are you lifting weights? And you were like, you don't have to take hits, Tom, Yeah, you know, like we'd always get in. So I would do a lot of the TV twelve stuff because it's it's really good stuff if you you follow it, and with the soft tissue work, the diet work, but I would incorporate it. I wouldn't go balls deep, you know, like I'm doing this and this only because I had

a different opinion on you know, that specific issue. You know, I needed to have muscle mass on me because I'm an explosive athlete. I'm not taking seven eight step drops and then delivering a football very hard. Can't do it and they get murdered in the pocket, I understand. But when you're exploding in out of cuts, like you gotta work those kind of things, and you know, nothing like a squat squat is what ultimately works you the best.

And he would get so mad at me because it does leave you vulnerable to getting hurt in the weight room. But you know, you got to you gotta do business as business is being done. Need that squat? Yeah, dude, so I got a sweet butt. Are you a no caffeine guy as well? Then? No, I drink caffeine. No drink drinking. Oh dudd I like caffeine. I gotta be on. We have a good guest like you here. We got

to get uh to the bottom of this too. By the way, when you get traded from the Phillies, they did a babblehead now four Hunter Pence, did they at least send you a bibblehead? Yeah? I got I gotta did it. It's like all the weirdest things happened to me. I don't know that it's where like the whole Hunter Pence signs, probably, but it's like I had a bibblehead

day for a team I wasn't playing for. I won, liked the I won like the what is it the Roberto Clemente Award for the Giants after they released me. I wasn't even on the team and got like the good guy award. Uh, it was cool. That's an interesting conversation. Yeah, interesting conversation with far Han. He congratulated me, super cool. What would you name this game? Which the eighteen What I name that he has games with names? We need?

We need y'all give games names. Oh yeah, I mean, man like I'm trying to think of some some punch. What was alt you said? You said you and uh youwan was this uh published inable that had had something an energy that you connected to you said it like a couple of seconds ago or a minute ago. Me and peebe where we try to like we would try to get like yeah, we would try to use anything to mentally get edge and like and like rile everybody up.

So the mental edge game. Uh no, no, because like because belt Like I remember he hit that homer and it's like the bat was too hot, like he's just like I don't know. I would just call it the belt dumper because he had a big, big booty and and like the only way you can hit a homer in the eighteenth inning that far is if you have a big dumper. That's true, that's where you're keeping the backside into it. The belt dumper. Damn belt dumped on. The belt dumper is a great name. You win this

game eighteen innings? Is it? From there on? You guys are like, this is a team of destiny. We're going we're gonna do it well. So now like obviously we threw bum gunner in the in the playing game, so we're getting We won two in Washington. We're coming back to San Francisco. Bums pitching Game three. We're all pumped. There's like a weird like bunt play or something, and Buster calls to go to third. Bum throws it into you know, left field, and they score a couple of runs.

We end up losing with bum pitching. He always struggled, didn't He always struggle throwing it to first or something? Was that him? Not really, but he was like the most he was like the most electric pitcher that was like deadly accurate, could hit dingers. And then like I remember, was it him or was it someone else that they struggled throwing the ball to first? I think that was a felt I felt, Yeah, it's just like, you know, it's crazy. I felt would like run it over to

first because he just could not do that. No, bum was actually pretty good, but it was like he needed to like make a like crazy play. It was like turn spin fire and he just And it's funny because the reason I bring this play up, and I remember it because once again, this is where like I really enjoyed this team and the camaraderie that we had. He's like, you know, Buster told you to throw it to third, you know, like, well, how do you feel about that call?

He's like, well, he didn't throw tell me to throw it into left field. You know. It was just like, oh yeah, it was fucking it. Once again, he pointed at himself. He's like, you know, I threw it in the left field. I could have made the play, and and I didn't and and but like he stayed calm, we didn't panic. And I was a great teammate. Bum. He was pretty good teammate. Hell yeah, he became up big. He was he was something. Yeah from from North Carolina.

I think it's North Carolina. Might be messing this up. I'm not sure if it's South Carolina. Yeah, he was like a difference. But he would be at me for not knowing that. He always came up big. Oh yeah. He was a monster. And he could hit. Yeah, no, he could. He could hit. It's embarrassing because he like he could hit the ball farther than any of us, and like he would like come in and pinch hit and get like these clutch hits and we're just like, how the hell do you do this? Like he wouldn't

even practice. He didn't he didn't take me. I mean sometimes he would just to hit the homers because he was wanted to see how far he could hit it. What a stud He's just a he was just a cowboy. He cared more about being a cowboy than anything else, you know, with like legit, like he would be like roping, Like we went to Arizona and was like on a horse and didn't get hurt doing something like that a little bit. I think a couple of times, like yeah,

I hurt doing biking. He has some motor motor biking, and that he hadn't been he hadn't been the same picture since he did that, I don't think. I don't know if that's the reason, but that sucked. That sucked. Man. It's it's awesome to have you in studio on games with names, telling us all these awesome stories, you know, getting to know you, knowing and knowing the competitor and the optimistic kind of leader that you are. I didn't know you were like that necessary. I alway knew you were,

you know, the fucking let's do it. But like, I didn't know you were like this, and it's a it's a pleasure having on here. Man, thanks for having me this great great stories. Appreciate you, Sam, thank you all for having me. Man, you had any plugs you want anything? Not really, I mean I'm a guy happy to be here. I mean my uh my wife would probably be like, you know plug Pineapple Labs. So Pineapple Labs. She has a coffee coffee company or else we do the Pineapple

labs dot com. If you want to try some of our coffee, we gotta we gotta get some of that coffee in here. And I want to put into something. I want to bobblehead and we're gonna Phillies, the Phillies one and then I'm gonna put a little SF Giants on there. Thank you Hunter pens Man energy. He was great. He's he's got like that just straight energetic, optimistic, everything is gonna be okay. Kind of attitude would you need? I?

I you know, I was not a pro athlete. I think if I was, i'd want that guy in my have to yeah, because I was quite I wasn't the like he kept on saying, I would I wasn't as bad as what he thought I was. I would just be the guy to call people out if they were, you know, not doing their ship. Yeah, because if you don't, you know, you could say you're gonna be in the moment all all you want, but if you're not doing a little ship, he ain't gonna be in the moment. Yeah.

It has to be a dude who's an all star like Hunter Pans to deliver that ship. And I love this help aspect that he's talking therapy to a bunch of ballplayers like the Upper West Side. Jewing me is like, dude, this is speaking my language. You know, it's fantastic. Dude. I couldn't believe the amount of coffee he ingests, a ten cup on the way to more coffee, two double espressos, and then probably just potting it down at that's a problem.

That's a caffeine problem, dude. He his tolerance, like he probably choose caffeine gum in between like his coffees just to even feel anything. Well, that's what they're known for in San Francisco, tolerance, very liberal people, a lot of tolerance. No, he was a he was clearly a coffee lunatic. I've never heard of that. I mean, that's that's for an athlete. Is that was anyone in your locker room doing that that much coffee? I was doing like pre workout drinks

and stuff like. I would hit a coffee, but not like that here I would and then I would stop drinking coffee after like one or two because I couldn't sleep. Dude, I do. I was on the road last weekend, and I'm so tired by the end of the day, and so I have to do coffee to get energized. But you know, some of these comedy clubs don't have coffee. So I just in my ride or I'm like, I need Colbrew in the fridge, Colebrew at eight thirty pm. I'm up till six thirty. Then at least I was like,

I was like, I fucking hate myself. We should have asked him, does he like coldbrew? Colebrew is like crack, dude. That's it's not a good idea. If you smell a cold brew in the morning, I just instantly have to just empty every valve. Yeah, I just I'm dumping for hours. Yeah, it's fucking outrageous. I mean, this is called the belt dump right, the belt dumper, the belt dumper. It's appropriate. What's up, Jackie. Dan Campbell noted coffee Guy one of

our favorite guys. His morning coffee routine too low, large ice coffees, four shots of espresso in each. He looks like a guy that drinks coffee. I used to hit diners with David tel and we'd be like four am and we'd be leaving and he would order a large ice coffee to go, which I've never seen anything like in my life. He would get a ice coffee in the diner, this big four in the morning and go to sleep all night with Yeah, up all night insomnia. That was it? You know? Did we hit the prop Jackie?

But settle it. We hit it. We got it out of the way early. I counted three. We even got him to say it was Kyler takes issue with the way you're scoring this, but I think the time said is the game and then we went way over in the end anyway, he went back to it, right. Yeah, we don't make these. We just embrace them. Bro. We don't make Actually we do make them. We make them. We make them too. What's the legacy for this game? The longest game ever in the history of the playoffs

except for like one. Yeah, up to this point, w was the longest eight anywise, yes, hour wise, no, inning wise, it's still tied, right, Yeah, I got a little clarification on that one longest at the time, inning wise, it is still tied. Now. It is the second longest Red Sox Dodgers Game three of the twenty eighteen World Series eighteen inning, seven hours, twenty Minutesesh. Christ, that's too much, way,

too much, too much baseball. It was a playoff game of attrition, it was part of a World Series run. It's what's the lasting image? For this lasting image is belt dumping one? Yeah, for the homer taking one or took one yard, right, I get. I mean that's the lasting image, and then it propels them to go on

and win the World Series. I mean, if you go in through, if you go through an eighteen inning game and you get out with the win, I can only imagine the confidence that's being brewed in the locker room, especially if Hunter pences in there, you know, giving them pregame speech and brewing coffee ruined speeches. I mean, I think that was probably what slingshot at them. For sure. And this is you know, a team that I think

you got to say they're a dynasty. I know they won two years apart, but it was twenty ten and they won in fourth. No, they won three. They were in ten twelve and this was for fourteen. So that's what I'm saying, this is a dynasty. What's the rule for a dynasty? Because you've been a part of one, it's three and seven years that make you a dynasty. Three and eight years, I would call a team three in seven is a dynasty three and seven. That's fair. Yeah,

I mean that's a dynasty. Is just pure dominance and you're dominating the sport. Definitely. I mean what we do fourteen, sixteen, eighteen, but then we went to we lost in seventeen in the Super Bowl, and then we went we went far into the playoffs every time. So yeah, we were definitely And so were the Giants shints they were they were owning the MLB at this time. Yeah, it was so cool to see. And I've said the Warriors are I

think undoubtedly a dynasty. Dude. San Francisco has had some dynasties. Now, yeah, what a what a sports town. It's a sports town man, it's they have cool teams to root for. I mean, the Niners are a cool team to root for. We just haven't got it one. There's no Sharks love. There's a big cult following of Sharks. Sharks fans out in the in the Bay. Now those colors, I love them. They're good colors. I had a Shark parka when I was like they do in ninety five. They were like

an expansion expansion team. I got it at like a good Will. It was dope. There's like five sizes too big. I got to wear it for like five years. It was amazing. Well, this is not exactly you know, this is not necessarily the exact game, but these types of marathon games definitely contributed to the changing of the MLB

extra innings rule. I mean, he even said in an interview, He's like, man, I wish we would have had the guy on second rule, because especially in the playoffs, they gotta get ready for the next week, they gotta go out and play. That's such a disadvantage if you're playing six and a half hours of baseball and then you have to get up and do it again, and especially if it's in like an e limb game and they got to go play a fresh team that'd be gnarly.

That's tough, that's so tough, But it make the journey so much more fun if you went and won it all. Yeah, if you think about it, well they did, Yeah, they did it, Jack, What do we forget? First off, Madison Bumgardner Hickory, North Carolina. Hunter couldn't remember where he was from. U. Sam, you were talking about Tony Romo taking that trip to Cabo. You were right. The two thousand and seven playoffs, he and Jessica Simpson. Jason Witten was there too, are wonderful

Jerry was there. Who knows the Cowboys thirteen and three went out the next week and lost to Eli Manning. Yeah. Well, we all love Jessica Simpson here. Thanks for softening it up Romo and getting them ready to lose to my big blue wrecking crew here in New York. We also talked about how legendary of those hundred pence speeches were. Good news for you fans at home. You can get your own for two hundred and fifty dollars on cameo. Oh you can, yeah, hundred pence pence on cameo fifty

little is that rate? Is that a good RT? Is that it's a little steep. I think, yeah, steep to get some comps. Let's get some comps, Jackie. Maybe maybe we'll start a cameo. Yeah, that's about it. Heck on an episode. Let's name the game the longest game, nah, because it's not not anymore eighteen innings, because there's other eighteen in the nap game. The nap game is that, Kyler. That's pretty good. It's not bad. You can take you fully could have took like a two hour nap. The

two for one. I think it's the belt dumper. I think Pence deemed it the belt dumper. Yes, it's got to be the belt dumper. Yeah, I love that. That's actually I'd say that's top. Sounds like what you do after you eat taco bell, but it still works. Yeah, what are the steaks? The stakes are the playoffs? It's high it's not world series, but it's not world series. It's it's uh seven to five, all right, that's fair, right, Yeah? Eight? I go eight because it's but they had they had

two wins. They were up to Oh you think it's I oh really all right? Fine, so seven to five seven five star power. I mean hall of famers in this game. Posey's a Hall of Famer, isn't he? Let me check real quick, little Bryce Young Bryce Young Bryce Young Bryce, He's probably a Holly. They always I love, I love the giants, like the Brian Wilsons and the bum Gardner. Bumgardner had an unbelievable career. Maddy Kane, he was in there. I would say eight eight five seven

five seven five? Does base Are we doing this because it's baseball? Because I feel like there's a lot of World Series champs in here, There's a lot of names in here. I think the fact that it's the MLB at this period is hurting the star power. Am I wrong? I mean, you like Socrates, you know when we're wrong. I don't know if that's being too harsh in star power? Yeah, I mean Tim Hudson's a fucking star. Yeah he's not a Hall of Famer, but I think if he's on

better team. They had three. I mean, is linskmb lynskeymb is Lynskum a Hall of Famer? Probably not because he didn't have the long long but he had three. He had three. He had like a bunch of cyngs. No, I mean he's he was great. I just I don't think he's in the hall. He did it long enough, not yet. At least Hudson just missed. He missed a lot. Yeah, he only got twelve votes. That doesn't look like anyone officially. Yeah, but there's some futures for sure. Alright eight eight three

eight three eight three. Yeah. Gameplay I'm going low as ship. I'm going like two five. This gameplay is stunk. It's a defensive battle. This ship was like AMBI great pitches. Yeah. Uh name, I mean it's it's a funny name, so we have to get points for it's being a funny name. But it's not an iconic name. So my name, I go like four five, five eight, five eight. Al Right, got to give the Bay Area boy the nod five eight, I mean, not one of them is a great name.

So we're going but we're scoring it for humor, not for like, you know, it being an epic name. Right, so I respect five eight for it being funny. The total comes out to six. I think that's fair. It's not a World series game. It's also just not it's he made me think more of the game than I did before talking to him, because I felt his energy

and I and I like that. But I just don't think it's I do think we might be hard on steaks, is I mean, seven to five might be stingy, but not really when it goes to the World Series, I guess it's not a decisi. It's not like, it's not a seven. It's not a game cheven. Okay. So then that and they were up to oh fair enough, and we're talking to a footballer who no, they were up one. Oh, they were up one. Oh. They win this one, they lose the next one. Yeah, I mean I think it's

pretty fair, all right, I hear it. We gave the miracle in Morgantown a seven to five. Also my Big West Virginia, we give Notre Dame TBT a seven flat gameplay wise, Lakers Celtics two thousand and eight finals got a seven. Also on steaks. Yeah, on steaks, my bad, I said, gameplay Wow, we're whack fuck. Why are we whack seven for Celtics? That was There's no way I gave it a seven if it's a lower score for basketball from the game was it? It was the wheelchairs?

Wheelchair game was what like Game two the thing went to seven. He is he is biased because he played in the NFL, where every playoff game was winn or go home, So I get his bias. I just like the up the annie. I like. I like to feel. I want to feel the heat. I want to feel the stress eating at the back of your neck. I want to not be able to sleep the night before do or die. I love it. I want I want. I want to feel closed. Yeah, I want to feel you. I want to feel you inside me. Dude, do you no?

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