“Ricky’s Record” with Ricky Williams | 1998 Week 11: Texas vs. Texas A&M

Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel. We're here to find the greatest games of all time energy and today on this beautiful podcast day, we got Texas versus Texas A and M, who was ranked sixth this year in nineteen ninety eight, and our guest, Ricky Williams. I can't wait, legend, maybe the greatest college football player of all time. Insane first reactions when I think of this second to last game

of the season. This guy's not even supposed to be playing this year because he could have got drafted number one the year before. Probably he's got forty four carries too much. It's like you ever see, uh we're talking about this? Is this ethical to put a running back through this? I in this tay and age. I guess I mean there was no ethics. This was ninety eight,

No ethics. Zero, ethics are new. We just discovered ethics. No, but it's like we ever see a movie and they have like a child actor and they're like, you can't do more than eight hours or whatever. There's limits. There should be over forty carries. I guarantee McCauley Culkin had more than eight hours a day, and that was also in the nineties. For sure. He also hung out with Michael Jackson, which would not be allowed in today's age. I don't think probably frowned upon, frowned upon, at least

probably frowned upon. This hits so close to the heart for me because in nineteen ninety eight I was like a little kid. I was twelve years old, and everyone always heard about bo Jackson, how this guy was unstoppable to sport athlete. And then you throw on these games every Saturday. And I didn't really watch Texas, but you knew Ricky Williams. Yeah, this guy was like averaging one hundred and ninety three yards a game, running up and down the field, jumping over guys, running over guys, out

running guys. He's like two hundred and thirty five pounds. He runs a four to three eight back in ninety eight, Like he's honestly one of the most dominant football players that ever played on Saturday. Yeah, it's it's it's it's insane, And I'm so excited to hear his story how he felt, because it's pretty It's pretty well known that Ricky loved college football and he loved a little bit of this,

right Yeah, he little little Mary Jay, little devils. Let us never hurt nobody, And we're gonna hear about that from old Ricky himself. But to get back to this game, man, like forty four carries two hundred and seventy two yards one touchdown in this game, he beats Tony dors sets record. He only needed like sixty eight yards, smashes it, and like the story is, Mac Brown says, I don't want you smashing it on a little run. You got to break a big run. He does it on like a

sixty eight yard er. I mean, it really is mind blowing. It's mind blowing. It's like when Jeter got his three thousand's career hit as a home run. Wait, Bogs did that too, pretty badass. Always back to a New York thing. Bogs did it in Tampa. It's not always New York. Yeah, and Bogs is a Yankee and a red sock. I was trying to bring some unity here, all right, we're bringing unity, you know. And Jeter, I mean, who doesn't. I mean it's Jeter. He's cool, awesome, Jeter. We know

you're listening. Come on, games with names, so many games to talk about. The gift bag? Is it real? Is it not real? Do you think he gift bags women on the way out? I mean he's a married man. Now, he's a married man. But we're talking about old school Jeter. I don't know. He seems like a gentleman. Have you ever gift bagged a woman? Absolutely? Not one weird thing. Just am a father of a daughter. A woman's leaving Julian's place and she just takes it back out. Entourage

Season four on DVD. What the hell the hell are we doing? It's always us movie Sam, the movie you're wearing. The movie Androge was good. It's not as good as the Joker. But let's go to let's live back into this day. In nineteen ninety eight number one movie Bugs Life. Never saw it. I heard it's great. I was I was an ants. I saw ants because of Woody Allen. Yeah, I love I saw Bugs Life recently. I was like half up, half asleep. Me and my daughter watched it.

It's it's pretty good. There's like it's great, it's and then I remember going to Disney World and they did they had like a Bugs Life ride or something. I haven't been in years, but I remember that was like a cool thing. But what what? What? Who did ants? Was that? That wasn't Disney dream Works? I think, yeah, I remember what too bad? Woody Allen wasn't attracted to Ants instead of his stepdaughter, and he wouldn't have been canceled. I guess only get an ants attraction? Jack. What do

we got? Yeah works? Yeah, Ants was good. I heard, I heard, I've heard Bugs Life is better. I guess there's like a lot of hidden stories. But or like what is it? What do they call that? Like there's a lot of metaphorically type speaking, there's metaphors, right, yeah? Yeah? Well number one song Doop Lauren Hell great, great great album. I mean I love Lauren Hill. I got to see her live in twenty twelve at like an SP's party and she I don't know, she's just fucking cool. She's

got a vibe there's that one song. I'm trying to think of how it goes because I don't know song names. Great, but I can start like singing the g give me a little of it. Well, I loved hearing the Fujis too. Oh yeah, ready started out, Yeah Fuji's yeah, babe. Well we'll have to get back to it. Get back to it. Remember this the powder. The Powerpuff Girls premieres on Cartoon Network. Cartoon Network at all the Bangers Dexter's laboratory, they had

Johnny Bravo, they they had some heat. I didn't. I wasn't a Powerpuff Girls thing, but I remember I wouldn't think that'd be weird if if he was, Like I was a Bubbles person, truly, I like bubbles. But did you I remember seeing like every we were like twelve at this time. Yeah, every girl had Powerpuff like backpacks. They were cool. It was like that was like a thing. That's what I remember. Final season of Seinfeld in the Air alrightp RP. Seinfeld went out. You know, look, Larry

David was gone those last two seasons. It was probably time to wrap it up. But one of the best shows, if not the best show. It's just all the time. It's like the Ultimate show when you have nothing to watch and you cause it takes me like forty five minutes a to find out what I want to watch, be another forty five minutes to find out what I'm going to order. If I'm having struggles, I just throw

on Seinfeld. You get in, you get out. It's great background. Oh, it's just especially those like seasons like three through seven, you're just getting heat. They're all it looked. The whole show is great, but those are like the we talk about that just pure fire. Viagra got the FDA approval earlier in ninety eight. You remember that Jake Gillenhall movie

which one Donny Darko. It was a rom come where he was like a Viagra pharmaceutical sales guy and Hathaway was in it and other drugs, Love and other drugs. Never saw it. It was fucking good. Jake Jillenhole rarely disappoints. I feel like he's got a great he's got like an underrated body of work. He's got, he's got like good stuff. I like. I like Jake Jonhall. He's got like an old vibe. Zodiac is great Zodiac. And then

then he had the neighbors he had. Uh I loved October Sky never saw it what it was like, such a like a feel good movie, like I'm gonna invent a rocket and get out of this coal mining town. Yeah, rocket viagra metaphors throughout this episode. I mean, real motherfuckers weren't waiting for the FDA approval. They were like, I got fifty to sixty boners less in my left in my life. I'm jumping on it. Yeah, you gotta jump on it. Who's waiting for FDA approval? They sell this

shit at gas stations. Well, now now this is ninety eight. We're talking. We're talking ninety eight, you know, and it brings me back Horny Goweed. Do you remember that shit? Yeah? I do. If I told the story yet about my dad on his anniversary, absolutely not. If it's related to Horny Goweed, we have not heard. It's related to my first time ever seeing a Viagara pill. WHOA. So my

parents it's their anniversary April fourteenth. So they're going on like a little weekend trip and they leave the house. And so my parents left the house, I would always go up and use their bathroom, you know, full just like living lavish in their bed. My dad runs in. I'm like, oh shit, my dad's here. He runs in, goes into like the closet and he's scrambling through the drawer, Like, what the fuck is this guy looking for? He goes out and I'm looking at him. He looks at me.

He pulls out a blue pill. He kisses it, puts it in his pocket and says, son, hopefully you don't know what this is until you're about my age. Wow. And it confused me. I didn't know what it was until like literally like nine years later or eight. I was like, Oh, that your first taste of pds. That was your first taste. Rodnie Harrison said the same thing to the locker room. He kissed the needle and said,

hopefully don't know what this is. Julian injected into his ass Yoh Sam, the banter goes here we go major global events. Now what do we got? Jesse Ventura the chin Yeah, was elected as the governor of Minnesota. Great cameo. He was great in the Predator. He was a huge step for actors, slash pro wrestlers getting into politics, and Running Man was running. Running Man's great. I love that movie. Schwarzenegger badass. That's like they're like paved the way for

like Hunger Games, right, I mean Running Man. I thought Hunger Games was based off of when I saw Hunger Games, it was off book. Yeah, well did did the book Hunger Games come out after Running Man? Who knows? Yeah? Running Man was a great movie. Schwarzenegger had had had an epic run in the eighties, oh eighties to like mid nineties. Another Governor Schwarzenegger, Another the Governator, the Governator,

and uh Man. Bill Burr used to have the best bit on on Schwarzenegger about like this, of course this guy thought he could get away with cheating. Like look look what he accomplished. You Like, look he comes to this country, he becomes an actor in a language he could barely speak. That was like the whole bit. Of course he thought he would just keep conquering everything was a I'm butchering the bit. But look up the Bill Burr Schwartzenegg, he's conan Yeah, man, True lies is one

of my favors too. Twins, Twins Classic. Then there was like another one off of Twins that was kind of like where he got pregnant. That's when Terminator the Terminators I mean, let's epic Terminator two hands down, it still holds up Terminator two. It's like a rare It's a rare time where the sequels better than the original. Is there anything else like that? Maybe god Some people argue Godfather too. I lean one, but two. You do have the nero am Pacino, but one your brando. I'm I'm,

i'm a I like two for Godfather. And then I also get like, I'm not trying to flex or anything, but I did you see top Gun two. This isn't going to be a flex by the time this comes out, but we are taking this in advance. When this comes out, everyone's gonna be like, yeah, we all saw it. Julian and I haven't seen it yet, so I am jealous, and I might. I might put out there it's better than the first, and I've heard I've heard it the better. I mean Rooster and goose baby, don't tell me, don't

give it away. But Val Kilmer does make a cameo, right full cameo. Fuck. I shed, I shed a tear. I love Val Kilma. I cried a little. Damn. It hit me in like it really did, because you know everything that he's going through. You know, it's his documentary. If you haven't seen his incredible val It's on Amazon. It's worth a watch. I gotta check it out. He's he's had a he's had a cool life. I mean Iceman,

Iceman is Iceman bro Let's get into the teams. We got the nineteen ninety eight Texas Longhorns nine and three, coached by Mac Brown in his first year. They had some big wins at Nebraska, who is number seven, and Texas A and m notable losses at UCLA number six Kansas State. Ricky Williams breaking the rushing record is really what this is all about. Though. That's exactly because we haven't seen a Texas team compete like this or even the teams that were a big, big time team since

this period in life. I mean UCLA's number six beating them, they beat Nebraska number seven. I mean college football has changed so much, but this is the college football I remember, and specifically with Ricky Williams running up and down that field with the Texas Longhorns, I mean he kind of reminded me of like modern day. At that time, Bo Jackson, Yeah even played baseball. Jack What do we on on

baseball guy. Ricky played four years of minor league baseball Martinsville, two years for the Piedmont bow Evils and then a year bo Evils, slow A and Bativa. Where is that? Nope, that doesn't That is the BA TVA muck Dogs and the muff Dogs. The muff Dogs, muck dogs. We have dirty minds here, Jesus, the muff Dogs. This is this is their celebration. Yeah. And a fun fact, I actually saw Ricky in his days with the bow Evils. Man, I think I got to meet Ricky. That was about

four or five. Oh wow, I just remember Ricky, your baby, bursting through the type baseball pants with those big old thighs. Yeah, he looks so strong. Oh my god. Yeah, a baseball polyester can't hold a dude like that. Not no, no way. Could you imagine himing some pinstripes. He would have looked beautiful. Oh but this game, in particular was the game where he beats the all time career record for yards with six thousand and eighty two, needed sixty three to beat

Tony dor Set. Goes out and does that on a on like a sixty eight yard touchdown, gets the record, wins the Heisman this year, was supposed to leave the year before, Like this tells you with all these these little stories you hear about him at Texas, which we're going to try to get into. This guy just love college football. Yeah, I mean, how do you turn down? Can you ever? Can you relate to this at all? Turning down a shot to go to the NFL, to

go back to college. I was never good enough in college to even think that way, So, like, no, it's crazy, And especially with what we're seeing nowadays. You know, you're seeing guys sit out bowl games that don't want to get hurt if they're not in a contending bowl game, so they don't hurt their draft stock or put the miles on them. I had forty four carries a game. Forty four carries. I mean, some notable names that just show us how different the game is too. Games different

and sores of the player. The player is different. I mean in a good way. Guys are getting paid, Guys are getting out there and making their money, and then you know that's what happens when you live in a capitalist government. Yeah, some notable notable names on Texas Major Apple White got to be one of the coolest names for sure. That the name you butchered, right, Yeah, I butchered that name when you gave a speech to the team. Yeah, what do you call them? Apple Wood? I called them Applewood.

I think we talked about it earlier, but they wanted me and Amondola during the Super Bowl in Houston to come talk to their team. We go in there. It gives me an insane introduction and I go thanks, Coach apple Would whole team fucking starts laughing. It was pretty bad. Quentin Jammer played against him. He was a stud or late. He played a long time. Gotta be one of the best corner names. Gotta jam you Jammer, great porn, great porn name, great corner name. Whatever you want the Jammer.

So the season narrative, Yeah, coming off a four and seven season, Ricky was pretty much the entire offense of that year in ninety seven, but also in this year, this year, they go out, they get a way better. They would have the were they're nine to three, go out and play in the Cotton Bowl win over Mississippi State. Ricky beats all the records, wins the Heisman, sends up off Mac Brown in Texas to come into what they become over that next period of time where I think

they got a Nattie or two. Uh. And you know he ends his college career with six five hundred and ninety two yards seventy five touchdowns. That like, just thinking about that many touchdowns hurts my neck. Like this dude played so much. That's three seats he had. He had more touchdowns in three seasons. And I know it's college and I had in my I think my whole NFL career. That's fucking nuts. That's too much. There's too many carries in college. His goal he wanted to play really good

at college level. Jewels clocked in at thirty six career receiving touchdowns. Thinks, thanks Jeck, just you just humbled me even more. It's impressive. I think oppressive. It was a third down guy. Yeah, you gotta move the chains to score touchdowns. Clutch guy, that's my guy. Three super bowls right here, dude, this super Bowl. Let's get over these Texas A and the Maggie's. Their record was eleven and three, coached by R. C. Slow Com. We got a pronunciation

on that jet. I believe it's slow Com, slow Com, slow cumb jammer of a premature ejaculator, a slow come big wins. They beat number two Nebraska. Nebraska got beat by both these teams twenty five Texas Tech, thirteen Missouri Kansas KSU number two lost to Florida State in Texas. What about this is crazy. This is the Big Twelve. They were in the Big Twelve at the time. They have some powerhouse teams at this at this time in the history of college football, and some huge names on

this team. Who they got, I mean Dante Hall, that's a name now the video game, the human Joystick, one of the best, probably arguably the best punt returner in the history of the game. Oh my god. He was fun to play with him. Madden insane. He was literally a human joy stick. Also got Dan Campbell. You know Dan. I don't know him, but I covered him this last year.

This is the head coach of the Detroit Lions who said, if we get him down or they break us down, we're going to try to get back up, and then when we're trying to get back we're going to bite off a kneecap. I believe that's the quote. He literally said to the media. A tough guy. I love it. That win too, from Dallas that win. The linebacker. I remember him. He was a good player. He was insane, and you always rooted for him because he was like the only Asian player you ever saw in the NFL,

for sure. And I'm a minority in the league as a skill position white guy, and then you see a guy over Asian, I'm like, holy funk, that's hell is sick. You went with white guy over jew your skill position jew get we get lumped in. I don't think there should be a lumping I think you should jew. That's how many other wide receiving Jews are there. That's the anti Semitism in the society. Yeah, most people just lump us in for our own I mean, if that's as

anti semitic as it gets, we're doing great. They're just lumping us in. We're like, you anti Semite, letting us fit in with the rest of society. Uh. Edelman when I I mean, I didn't know at first. I just oh Edelman and I was like, there's no way he's Jewish, and that looks that. I was like, ohit, he's Jewish. Yeah. I thought it was cool. It's gotta be we're talking current guys. Yeah, Josh Rosen, Michael Gunn got recently retired, Nate Ebnerbner, Anthony Fisker or first Ger Sorry, Ali, Marpitt,

Greg Joseph in the Hall of Fame. You got Marv Levy, Levy, you got Ron Mix Mix, Andre Tippett, tip Al Davis converted, Benny Friedman, sid Gilman. And then lastly, a guy we got on the wall said Luckman. Luck mean nice we got we got we got some ballplayers. You got some jews when we got some guys respect. So the season narrative for Texas A and M. They were ranked fourteenth in the preseason AP poll, lost an opening night to Florida State number two and twenty six year old Chris

Winky then bounced back. Yeah, he played. I think he went and played pro ball, came back. He was like thirty two freshman and he played for the what he played with the Panthers A bunch. Yes, I remember Winky? Yeah, yeah, everyone he kind of liked Twinkie. It's a fun name, it's a fun name to root for. You got Winky, Jammer slow Come. He took some good names apple Wood and we got a mctual sounding names apple White, fuck damn again dude, apple Wood, apple white Ape, my bad Major,

what a cool first name? Major? Holy shit? Things we remember clearly Ricky. I mean, this is really about Ricky breaking the records. This is That's what it is. That's what that's why we're talking. That's why we're doing this game. There was a last second field goal to win in this game, but we're talking about Ricky. Come on, there's other There's a lot of games where you went on a field goal. There's not a lot of games where you break the rushing record. Things we may have forgotten.

Texas was unranked entering this game. From nineteen eighty four to two thousand, they only had two ten win seasons. That's that's kind of odd. That doesn't sound right. Yeah, it just feels like a bigger program. They and then in what the two thousands to twenty ten's they they kind of they I think they stepped it up. They were They were pretty powerhousey with you know, Vince Young and those guys, and when Mac Brown, Yeah, he had

a long, great career with Texas. You know, you hear about Matthew McConaughey given halftime speeches and it looks fun hook him, right, that's what they always say, give him more the hook. That's McConaughey is a coole celeb fan to have gotta be he's like so cool, Yeah, Wolfe of Wall Street. You just picture the dazing confused. So do that at games? Certain games? Ago? Oh remember that though?

So I heard that was actually improv. That was actually for him to get in character for the scene, and they did it, and I think DiCaprio was like, Hey, we got to keep this. So that's what I heard. That's like when you tell a crazy locker room story and I'm like, roll the fucking cameras because you got some you got some epic stories. Man, Yeah, I don't got it. I don't even know what to say to that, Like, oh,

I'm sorry, I don't mean you know what. He's a he's a humble guy, so he doesn't like when I blow up his ship like this. But you got good stories. They're pretty good. You got some classes heard better I have liar, liar, I've had better, I've had better. That was that was a good movie. Jim nineties, Jim Carrey, what's your number? One? Like the most quoted one I use is probably dumb and Dumber? Easily and easy number one for me. Dum, dumb and dumber. Liar, liar, it

was awesome. Yeah, uh, big mask guy. Just the performance alone. Yeah, it's like Jim Carrey in the Mask is like Ricky Williams in this game. Just give him the ball and let him take over. Do you think any of that was in the script or he just said go do? I don't know. It's it's hard to write some of that shit. And I saw him recently in the New Sonics. He's fucking good. I love Jim Carrey. He loved Jim Carrey. Man, Jim, if you're a sports guy and you want to come

on games with names, we'd love to have you. Man, how's your burger? Why don't you eat up? I'll let you know. Remember when they're trying to feed him the pills. Pills are good, pills are good to kill a guy. Yeah, they killed him and they left him on the side of the road. Man. And then remember when they had like the at the very end, Oh sorry, my friend's a little slow. The town's eight miles that way for like the what was the sun tanning lotion girls or something? Yeah,

I remember, like I was like eight years old. I was like, hmmm, I would definitely not do that. I saw in the theater with my grandparents, and I remember they were just furious at me. I think my grandma wanted to see Apollo thirteen or something. It was something like tasteful she wanted to see, and it was like, please, Grandma, dumb and dumber. I'm like, it's supposed to be really good. And then, of course five minutes and they're like, what

what have we done? Polly want a cracker? Shout out to my grandparents who took me to Dumb and Dumber and it was not their cup of tea. Good grandparents, they were the best. They stuck with what you want grandparents. Yeah, all right, let's get to the gaming corner, presented by win Bet. Okay, so prop bet, are we thinking over under? How many times anyone can say hook them? How many times you can say, all right, all right, which one should we go with? Alright? Alright, alright? Is that the

McConaughey thing. Yep? How many times can we get that? I think three is reasonable, three and a half, three and a half you can hit four on that. I don't know. I'm a confident guy. You're a confident guy. But I'm a humble guy. You just had a couple of minutes ago. So my confident, I'm a humble Well. I don't think they are opposites. I think I think you can be a confident, humble guy. Khaky is the opposite. I think you're I don't think you're cocky. I teeter

at it sometimes you teeter it. But the greats do. You're a great player man. Alright, alright, alright, let's feel they couldn't take it, so we went to McConaughey. All right, all right, I didn't even mean to do that. It was just subconsciously in my head. But let's hear from Ricky Williams. But before then, let's take a quick break and we're joined. Sam By, arguably the best college football

player of all time. A San Diego native. Yeah, Heisman Trophy winner, dual sport athlete, A lot of people don't know, loved baseball, played in the miners, an Austin, Texas legend when it was legendary to be in Austin, Texas. I mean, we haven't had that in a while. Right now. Uh, he's got a statue. He's a beast that the new Orleans Saints traded literally their whole draft to draft him because he was that good of a football player in college, and everyone knew it was a non miss. He's not

going to be a bust. He has an incredible story, you know, as a pro as a kid in his upbringing, as a college football athlete, and he played thirteen years in the league and was a beast in the league. Just didn't get to play on the best teams we got Ricky Williams. Man, thanks for joining us. Oh, thanks for having me. This is a pleasure, dude, The pleasure is ours. We were just talking nineteen ninety eight. Like when I was a kid and I played running back

as a kid, like you watched every Saturday. It didn't matter who they were playing, It didn't matter how many people were in the box, it didn't matter anything. You knew Ricky Williams was going to break some tackles, outrun people, jump over people, and get the ball about a million times, just as he did in this game where he beat Tony Dorsett's record, Like your dream. Clearly I've heard you talk about it. You you you loved college football? Was

that that that was your thing? Yeah? So I mean you mentioned I was a two sport athlete, as I grew up in San Diego watching the Padres, watching Tony Gwynn best swinging that that was the best swinging base that was. That was an era in baseball in the eighties where it was like Gwen in the n L and Wade Bogs in the a L. And it was like the two sweetest swings. Yeah, that was Giants fan

Will Clark, Sorry Clark, that's a great one. Clark and Barry bro Barry was a fucking beast dude that he would see one pitch, He would see one pitch a week and then be a dinger. I don't care if he was on anything. That was the best baseball player of all time. If we're talking sweet swings, you can't leave Ken Griffith one of the prettiest swings. Yeah. So again this is I love this, right, Sharon, going back

to these days. But yeah, I grew up a baseball fan watching these guys, and so I wanted to be the next one. And then when I was about twelve, I started watching Notre Dame football on NBC, and I got the bug for just a college football tradition, and so I decided. When I was being recruited, I told all the baseball recruiters, I'm playing college football, told all the college recruiters, I'm playing minor league baseball, and so

I was able. It worked out. So I took the scholarship to Texas, but I had to give it back when I got drafted, because you can't be a professional sport and an amateur athlete on scholarship. So the Phillies drafted me in the eighth round and paid for my education, and all throughout college I spent my summers playing minor league baseball. But I was just much better at football, and so eventually I had to let go with my dream to be a baseball player and I stuck with football.

But my dream was to be the best college football player I could be and then go play baseball. But I just kept with the football thing. Well you accomplish that. I mean, you look at these numbers. Can we get these numbers real quick? Sorry? I haven't got them off the top of my dome. It was a long time ago, dude, don't worry it, dude. And I played a lot of football too, So you get hit in the head, you forget I do a lot of I do a lot

of drinking. But uh so I'm right there with you guys, not really, but uh you uh, Ricky, I mean, you have this historic season in college and you could have probably been the first overall pick in the NFL draft. But you come back, you come back to college. What about it? Were You're like, I gotta do it again? Uh? You know again. I always wanted to be a college football player, and so for me, leaving college early didn't

make any sense. But at the end of my junior year, my coach I recruited me, John Mcivit got fired, and so I seriously started thinking about going to the NFL because who wants to be at college with the new

coach and all that stuff. And two things happened. The first thing was I was talking to Mac Brown, who was a new coach, and I pretty much decided I was taking off, and he said, you know, I know you're probably leaving, but you've been here the longest, so I'd just love for you to give me a heads

up on what's going on with the team. So we spent about three hours used to media share and everything I thought and felt about the team, and I noticed the next day when I went to the facility, you know, probably half of what we talked about he already started to implement some changes. And I felt empowered as a leader. So that got me, you know, feeling like coming back

might be a good idea. And then that same week, I was flipping through the College Football Almanac and I flipped through to see all purpose yards, and I noticed that I was thinking fourth or fifth. But I did the math, and I said, if I have just a little better season than I did as a junior, I could have the most rushing yards ever in college football history.

And that intrigued me. And then I flipped a couple more pages and I got to total touchdowns rushing touchdowns, and I saw, if I had the same year I had as a junior, I could have the most rushing touchdowns and total touchdowns in college football history. I was like, damn. Flipped a couple more pages, got to all purpose yards. It's the same thing. I did the math, and I said, if I have a decent year like I had last year, I could be the you know, all purpose leader for

all time. And I thought, man, I have this opportunity to be, like to have this triple crown and it was so intriguing, I said, I got to take a shot at it. And so those two things really were why I came back for my senior year. And that that shows you kind of competitor Ricky Williams was. I mean, you set a goal in college and you went out

and achieved it. You honored even through a coaching change, your scholarship, and you went back and you did what's best for not only you, but like you helped out Mac Brown. You you propelled mac Brown into probably you know, the best stint that called you know, Texas football's had in a long time, if not ever. So when you see these these running backs nowadays who were on like these load managements and they they don't play in the bowl game, like you got to be like, man, that's

that's got to be crazy, y'all. I mean, I can understand the load management part, kind of it's not me, but I understand it. The sitting out bowl games, it is hard. I have I have a hard time with that, you know, And it's me though, it's not them. I'm just old school. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big fan of

amateur sports. You know, the word amma, amateur comes from love so this idea of playing for the love of it, you know, and to me, I couldn't imagine sitting on a bowl game, like damn, we're talking load management, but it's forty four carries too much. That's insane to me. You carry them all forty four times in a game? Is that in? Is that crazy? You know back then it wasn't crazy. Today is crazy. And that's one part. The other part it depends on the game. You know.

There's those some games where you might need it, but to do it consistently, that's too much. Do you get tired? You carried the rock forty four times and like you were still outrunning people like, do you ever get tired? Well, I mean I was tired, but mainly because that was the last game of the year. So I've been carrying the ball, you know, for two thousand yards going up to that point. So it was a lot going through the season. But the nature of my game was being

tired was part of my game. I mean, to me, that's why I got an unfair advantage because if I'm tired and the defender's tired, he still has to tackle me, you know. And you saw that people couldn't tackle you and I never always remember, you know, he was like

the pinnacle. Like there's like these bowling ball type running backs, especially like and I'm just going to correlate it to the pros and where I was at, Like no one ever wanted to tackle, especially when it was cold, guys like him, Like you get these big guys that run low, great pad level, built in pad level, and then you got to see him in the middle of the hole and once they break through, like and that's what you saw with him. I don't want to go to Trader

Joe's when it's cold. I mean, I can't imagine what you guys went through. I mean it's insane, okay, And he would break a tackle in like his open field and then he had the like the speed out run. I mean, it's it's pretty much insane. And can we talk nineties late nineties football fashion. Probably the swaggiest dude

ever out there. He always had the cut. He had the cut, the cut hemmed jersey, you'd have like the spatty cleats, you had the baby dreads going on, like you were like an innovator and like now it's getting back to that, Like everyone dressed like that in practice like you know, you always like try to swag out in practice with the game. You never, like Ricky Williams actually swagged out throughout and created like pretty much swagged for now. You have to be Ricky's level of good.

I mean I saw a guy in the one train the other day and it cut him shirt. He did not have Ricky's physique, so it didn't work. But when you have the skill to back it up like Ricky did. I always say, like Eddie Murphy, you know, delirious raw he wears, you can't wear that that outfit as an open micro. When you're Eddie Murphy, you can wear that outfit. You got to have the swag and the skill to back it up what you had because you were a great player. Well, I think is all part of the vision.

You know. I think to be a great athlete, you got to have a vision of that great athlete in your head that you're trying to work towards. And for me, the outfit, you know, the costume was a big was a big part of that image. Look good, play good, feel good or what was it? Look good, feel good, play good exactly? Frimetime baby, Yeah, it's real. Can you talk about getting drafted into some of the teams you

played on, you know, the Saints, Miami. I mean, what were those experiences like for you, Well, Julian said, it really there's so much about fit. You know, Like to me, if you get drafted, they've scouted you. You You got talent, But I think the next level is finding that system where you fit. Part of it is the scheme, but also part of it is the personnel. And I think it was close. It was really close for me in New Orleans. And I think when I the time I

got traded to Miami, it was the peri fit. It was a team that played hell of defense. They had a pretty good quarterback, pretty good receiving corps, but they really wanted to establish the run, and I think, you know, that was a sweet spot for me. New Orleans was close. You know, we had a great defense. When I got drafted.

Quarterback position, we had two guys named Billy Joe, and we didn't have we didn't really have anything else on offense, and so it just and I think also coach Dickert was a little bit old school in his hiring of coaches because our offensive coordinator, he just believed the old school you know, run the same play and make him

stop you you know, and that didn't work. I got to I got to I got to Miami North Turner, who is in my mind offensive genius, especially scheme in a run game, and he just he saw what I did well and he used motion and schemes to make sure that my talent was was could could could accomplish things on the field. And it worked. It worked. I got to. Then I stayed with Miami, and I was versatile enough that I could find a place to fit.

You know, Ronnie Brown was drafted in two thousand and five and we started running the Wildcat, which was great and kept us both on the field. And then my last season I played with the Ravens. And you know, I see this a lot, but I see it's really difficult late in your career, especially if you have some success, to go to a new team. Because you know, I was in Miami, we went through the ups and downs. Like everywhere in Miami, it was just everybody knew me,

loved me, appreciated me. I went to Baltimore, it was like a whole new Like I had to start over at the beginning. You know, I was almost forty, you know, I had to start over at the beginning, trying to like make a name for myself, improve myself, and that's a lot. It was a lot. So I ended up only one year in Baltimore and I decided I'm ready to do something else. I completely agree. That's half the

reason why I retired. If I wasn't gonna play there, I don't want to play anywhere else because I want to learn a new scheme. I don't want to go learn the new lunch ladies, the people in the building. Like, you know, you become family with these people, and then you got to re establish yourself, you know, and people do shit differently. You know, they may not get this

at you. They may not like I completely understand with that, especially when you get older, Like when I was older in the locker room, like you got a lot of young players, and there's different like like our generation was completely your generation was completely different than the one before, and and vice versa. You become the older guy. It's like, maybe it's time for me to get out. Yeah, you know, I don't do that dance. I don't you know this, or I don't I don't, I don't. I'm out on

my phone all day. You know, it's crazy how different it changes each like every ten years in that locker room. But let's get back to the Texas Texas A and M game. Like you guys were on the verge, you guys had. You guys were four and seven the year before you completely balled out. But this year, you guys are nine and two. You're playing against six ranked at Texas A and M. It's pretty big rival anytime two Texas teams are playing, it's pretty big, right, It's a

huge rival. I mean Texas Texas A and M has been the biggest rivalry. It's bigger than Texas. OU it's a bigger it's huge. Thank you for clearing that up for you know, a West Coast guy, a New Yorker like this game. So the game plan was just give it to you and let let's write it off of you the whole game or what well the game plan was coming into the game. I think I needed seventy two yards to break the record, So I think Coach Brown's first thing was break this record and then win

the game. But he knew if I break the record and everyone gets excited, it's going to be easier. It's going to be easier to win the game. So I remember that first quarter. He might have given me the ball like twenty times or something. He just kept feeding me because he wanted to. He wanted to get that out of the way so that we could focus on the game. Yeah, and then then the one you broke it. What was a sixty eight yarder where you dip out,

they didn't have the edge. Then you get in, you split, you come off the butt of the blocker, and then you have the open field running ability to break the tackle and go. And then you get it down the sideline you cut back like it's crazy. I heard his story. Did mac Brown really say you better break it on a long run? He did, but he always says stuff like that. You know something I read that you said, Julian about a receiver's job is to block in the run game. And you know, and what I love about

the play was a sixty yard touchdown run. What I love about the play was, you know, coaches say, if everyone does their job, every score should be a touch every place should be a touchdown. And when I go back and watch that play, every single person on the field did their job. Okay, it was just a regular lead play to the left line, did a good job isolating the defensive lineman. My full back did a good job hitting the outside linebacker. Okay, you know, the play

side receiver take most dangerous men exactly. He came down and then what the coach said to the running back, We're leaving one for you. Okay, Kwame came down, crack the safety. The little corner came up, bounced off my shoulder. I was out in the open field, okay, running down the field. Their backside corner, the fastest guy on their team, took an angle. Okay. Our backside receiver chased them all the way down the field, pushed them out of bounce just enough so I could cut in and get into

the end zone. I'm telling you. It was everyone on the field how to do their job to make that play work. And that's a beautiful thing about football. It's the ultimate team sport. And I always remember what he said. You know, the receiver comes in, he cracks his safety. And they always say that specifically because they always say the corners the worst tackler. That's the worst tackler. If you get tackled by the corner, they're gonna be looking and they're looking at you sideways. But uh, it's it

really is true. But the thing with like watching Ricky play like you were not only like there's there's certain guys that were athletic freaks that they go in and they just try to run through the hole like you were able to do that, But then you were also able to, you know, squeeze that double team to the next level, cut back, always find the right hole, and there's a letter's players that can do that as well. But like the great ones, then after that is the

ones that go out and break the tackle. The safety doesn't make the tackle. You go and make these explosive plays, and you just see that all the time when you're watching Ricky was fucking it's insane, Like it's a childhood dream to even get to sit and talk about get to talk football with you, because, like, I mean, you were that big of a deal and you still are to this day. You are. I gotta ask you, Ricky. Was McConaughey big in the Texas circle yet in ninety

eight or was he not your guy yet? He was biggest in ninety eight because he had something to come out and be proud of. So before every single game we were, say at the hotel, but every time, every night after the game, I come home and then there'd be like a twenty minute voice mail on my uh on my on my answering machine from from from Matthew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did he used to say? Alright, alright, all right?

Did he ever liked he? Did he ever say any of those all right out out all rights in the in the voicemails, like did he just have fool McConaughey, Like it was like real, it was real speaking from the heart of like motivational speeches, and you know, he's he's a really intense dude, Like he'll get close to you, like this close and looking right in the eye and say what he has to say to you. So it was.

It was a treat, you know, it was. It was just a special time in my life of when you put so much work into something and you finally start, you finally start to see a payoff. There's there's nothing like it, dude. He was on all the Sports Illustrated I mean I remember, I remember, I Mean, he's a huge deal. And there had to be some other who else did anyone Did you get close with any other celebrities, Texas people, or had to be someone else. I mean,

we all know McConaughey's big ut guy. Anyone else like call you after you broke this record, that's I mean, there had to be some people. Ah, there was a lot of people. You know. I was hanging out with the time, going way back, hanging out out with Dennis Robin. He was really big at the time, you know, and people knew a classic positive influence on any exactly. I mean, I'm telling you we hung out at the super Bowl

right after my senior year was in. It was in Miami, and we went to we went to a party and he's like, hey, once you come hang out with me, and I just remember taking Cholesi Yaeger and that's all I remember. Next thing I knew, I woke up in this room and I was like, I have no idea where I am, and you've been Roman, I was. I went up like I opened the door and I went up the stairs and I was right on Miami Beach. You know, he rented out he rented out Air Clapton's

apartment and somehow that's where the party ended up. And I missed it because I passed out but if you kept hanging out with him, you would have woken up in North Korea. So consider yourself lucky. Actually that might have been interesting, But that's awesome. Brodman's the bigger anyone else from that time period, not that I can remember. You know, I got really close with Dan Lebotard uh so before. I mean, he's not like, he's not a super famous person, but that was really we love Lebatar here.

That's probably the most the most meaningful relationship that I and it wasn't just hanging out with the famous person. You know. We were like best friends. And it was amazing when I got traded to Miami because he lived in Miami, so we got we got really closer and were able just to tell some really cool stories. And that was that was probably my favorite thing that came out of that time. Was is that friendship you also,

I mean, you dig play behind some insane lineman. You got to give the hogs who that in the ninety eight line. You had Ben Adams, Octavius, Bishop Russell GaX GaX Camp, Jay Humphrey, Roger Russeller, Leonard Davis. That's the law firm right there, and none of them went to the NFL. But that's a great college. Leonard Leonard, Actually Leonard played in the NFL. He did play in the league. Yeah,

Leonard played for a minute. You know, when when I went on my recruiting trip to Texas, I remember I was walking over there showing me the door, and I saw these four humongous guys walking towards me. Okay, and I said, who are those guys? He said, those are the offensive linemen and they're all red shirts. So I knew that when I came as a freshman, i'd be playing with four of those five guys throughout my career.

And I think that had a oh well not I think I know that was a major part of my success of just having this running behind the same guys all four years of college. Any crazy like Jesus Shuttleworth treatment over at those like frat parties or anything, you

know what I'm talking about. Yeah, honestly, Like, you know, my my head coach the first three years, John mcavick, he was one of those like by the books kind of guy, being I think being from California, I didn't have like the wealthy guy from my hometown to like take care of me. So I just was out there, you know, doing my thing, and there was a lot of adoration, but I didn't really get close to too many people like that. Now I read you started like

there's always everyone's pretty public that you smoke weed. Yeah, I think it's I think it's I think it's well documented. Uh, you didn't start until what your senior year at college? Senior year at college? Now what made you? Because I'm going to open up a little bit and I'll tell you what happened. I started smoking weed in like the sixth year of my career, and it's because some shit was going on. But I want to hear if there was something that propelled him. There was shit going on.

So so so back back to where we started. When I came back from my senior year, I had all these goals when the Heisman break all these records. Okay, So I come back and first game, first two games, I kill it. Then we go to Kansas State and I get shut down like twelve twelve carries for like forty yards. Also find out that my girlfriend is now with the quarterback. Okay, so which quarterback is this? Major? Apple White? He was our he was our starting white.

I'm glad you messed up his name at that speech. Oh yeah, so you that guy. I'll tell you story after you tell me that. Don't actually screw that. I don't, but it's a long time ago. But it's just one of those things where I was like, how do you do that to your teammates? She was she was pretty bad anyways, so I don't blame him, so, you know. So I was just going through this and I was thinking,

like why did I come back for this ship? You know, I was in that place where I was thinking I could be making millions of dollars not worried about this bullshit. Now I'm back here, I have to deal with the quarterback giving me the ball, that's sleeping with my girl, and now I'm not going to break all these It just was bad. And my roommate was a smoker, and he's like, you need to chill, and so he brought out he brought out his bong and he's like here

and so like an anti drug commercial. I mean, I had smoked before, but it was just hanging out with the guys. I wasn't a smoker, but that was the first night where I smoked. And I remember went upstairs in my room and I wasn't obsessing about the girl or the quarterback or the bad game. I just was good and I started actually thinking positively about the future. And I'm not lying to you can look at the stat book. After that game, back to back three hundred

yard Russian games, I just started smoking more weed. I feel like it would really up my game. It will. It will because I don't react to it like you, Ricky. I could drink and it quiets the voices. I smoke weed. It's like I had to party in my head and only the worst people showed up. It's not good for me, you know everybody. That's the process, though. You got to get those voices out, because they don't just disappear. If

they're in there. You got to get them out. And sometimes we bury them, and you smoke, you get become aware of them so you could do something about them. Because to me, you know, especially as a football player, I was trying to push all that shit down. When I finally like looked at it and let it move, then it was gone and I could focus on what was really important. Different perspective, and it was the same with me. I've never told this story, and I've actually

never told anyone. Really, I I tooke, you know, but you know, I was going through some shit. I got arrested. It was like my second year in the league or fourth year league or something like that, and like a lot of shit was just going on, and exactly what you said, it gave me the ability to slow down and and and just kind of look at things differently and put the pieces together, and also like relax my mind because my mind's always going, like I'm always thinking

I'm gonna get cut, What's gonna happen here? My family hates me this, that. And once I started smoking, my buddy did the same thing. He's like, yo, oh, bro, you need to relax because I didn't smoke. I didn't smoke until I was like twenty seven, twenty six, twenty seven, you know what I mean. I mean I dabbled, but like I wasn't like a smoker, you know. And so then I did that, and it was exactly the same thing that you felt. It gave me a chance to

just like reflect. You know. It's like the saying that mister Kraft told me en Rabalitov. It's Hebrew four, with all the bad, find the good in the bad, and it's kind of you feel that, you know what I mean, you see that kind of perspective if you do it right and you get in a you know, safe environment or whatever. You know, Sam, it may not be that for you, but I felt that exact same thing. And on Applewood or apple White. I could tell a quick story. He invited me to talk to his team. We usually

used to coach Houston, and we were in there. We were playing the super Bowl and we were practiced using their facility, and he's like, Yo, Edelman, would you come, you know, come, let's go speak to the team. And he gives me this huge introduction. Yeah, this guy, that guy, And I go, oh, thanks, apple Wood, I appreciate it, like I fully botched his name. The whole fucking team starts laughing, boss busting out. It's supposed to be like

an inspirational speech show. I'm clearly not Matthew McConaughey when it comes to speech. Get that's karma coming full circle. That's what he gets for banging Reggie's girl. He gets the botch name and embarrassed in front of his team. That's what I say. Now. But Reggie, I mean, I think, why do I call you Edgie, Holy, you're watching my name too. Hey, it's all that's how karma works. Ricky, Who have you slept with? Who was a close run in the past? No, Ricky, Uh? I mean I think

you got really unfairly vilified by the media. You were ahead of your time in a lot of ways, you know when they really kind of played it out like you were a burnout. And I don't think that was fair to to do to you. Well, I don't. I don't look at it that way. I mean, they're just doing their job. They couldn't understand what was going on with me, you know, they're they're the media, like they're

covering us. You know. I just see myself as like a real warrior, you know, I wasn't just like fighting on the football field like I'm fighting in life. Real To think you were ahead of your time in that way, I don't think there were people that were as open as you were about this stuff at the time. Then the nature of being ahead of your time is you're always going to be misunderstood. I mean that that's what it That's what it means. That's that's that's that's a

saying right there. I'm a big saying guy like Jack, I want you to cut that up. That could be like a neon sign. Man. Fuck, that's good stuff. It is. Man. Uh I'm thinking about that saying I'm sorry, No, you're good. Good. We try to keep it like conversational here, you know, and sudden this is more of us just laying it, laying it all out. I want to you know, you talked about how we've talked about environment and ecosystem. How badly would you wanted to play in a system like

New England. It'd have been like I would have killed it up there, just you know, people from the outside day because all of the especially the cannabis stuff. People I think they misunderstand like my game, but like I'm

a killer out there. You know, I'm a competitor, and I just I love playing against the Patriots, and I was fortunate enough being a Dolphin, I got to do it twice a year because like you know, you knew you everybody had to get up for that game, and you knew every time you play the Patriots, they're going to be over prepared, over prepared. So it spine. I mean with the saying what they say in football, if you ain't cheating. You ain't trying, so I get it.

I think we got Eli to say that Bill's a cheater. I think we did fucking Eli. Great guy, no American hero. Tell us about Heisman your company. I want to hear. I want to hear about this. We've been talking about it already, and I just want to say thank you for sharing your story, because that's really what Heisman is about. So many people they hide how they utilize cannabis, and there's so many people out there suffering and that they

don't even realize that shit I could get. I could get relief from what I'm dealing with, or I could get perspective, or I could get insight because everyone's lying about using cannabis, and so you know, a big part of the brand is really creating a platform for people to tell their story. You know, it's funny because yeah,

we're a cannabis brand. I think of it as a lifestyle brand, but just living a life where you're utilizing cannabis to take yourself to the next level and telling that story, and that's what I'm really passionate about and that's why I started this brand. Well, it's very clear that you're passionate about it, and it's and it's also

clear that you know you think outside the box. And the way you broke down your story like I wasn't going and telling my story that I smoke weed, like it made me feel comfortable enough to let to go out and and I like share that with you because you made it feel like it's not bad for me to do that. Yeah, and I guarantee it lot, No,

I guarantee it. I mean, I know you're not thinking about it this way, but a lot of people who watch this, you know, are probably going to be more comfortable either trying it, using it, or coming out and talk sharing their experiences with Because when I was going through everything I was going through, there was very few people that I could relate to that were going through a similar experience. And so as I went through it all, I took it on myself to be that person for

other people. And so you know the fact that you felt comfortable enough to be real and share your story like that's amazing. So thank you for that. Well, see for athletes, this is big. For a comedian, no one gives it. No one's like, wow, he really that was really cool? He shared he did drugs. No one cares. But I really think your honesty was so refreshing for the league and I think good for the sport. And it's funny that in some ways you were portrayed as

not maybe not a positive role model. I think time has shown that you were. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean time. That's the value of time. You know. I was young. I was trying to figure it out, and all I knew is that I just keep swinging, I keep taking a shot. I'm going to figure it out. And I stuck with it. And to the NFL's credit, they gave me an opportunity to come back and you know, clear my name and leave the NFL lead my career with dignity.

So at the end of the days, it's a wonderful story that I'm still standing to be able to tell it, and you're still working, and that you have a new thing with Heisman, which you know everyone should check out. Everyone's got to check it out. Man. We appreciate you coming on to games with names presented by win Bet and talking about your story, talking about the game you had to break Tony Dorset's record, which is still insane. Go on win on a last field goal against Texas.

Aggie's win the Cotton Bowl propel mac Brown's career. Also like getting all the messages from McConaughey. I mean, it's it's it's awesome that you gave us all this inteling and telling us your story. Man, and major major Applewood, fucking Major Applewood. Can't you guys would have win ten games if you didn't do that messed up man chemistry. It's all. It's all good, Minor apple Wood. More like, this is the beauty of lifestyle. I don't think I would have been motivated to I go on a tear

like that. You know, maybe it's maybe it's exactly what I needed to find cannabis and to be here telling this story. So thank you Major apple White exactly. That's a whit of wood. What the hell? I don't even know his name anymore. He said it so many times. I'm confirs. It's it is what it is, man. I appreciate you coming on, dude. If you ever need anything for me, give me a call. Bro. Yeah, I'm in La too. We should get up sometime. Where do you live?

I live in Manhattan Beach. I live over in like West Hollywood Flats Beverly Hills area perfect well at the link up. I love the South here. I lived in Hermosa for a couple of years. Yeah, I love it down here. It's it's just my kid lives in Laurel Canyon, so it's fucking far. I can take take me two hours to go see my kid and drop her off at school. Like I get it, you know what I mean. Yeah, but well, thank you so much, Ricky. This is great. Yeah,

of course you guys have fun, all right. I appreciate you. Let me up. What's the legacy of that game? Just that Ricky Williams is a badass. I think he's not like your traditional badass. He's like the badass that is that that goes around and like does a bunch of mitzvahs and like he just like once, we've had some

good fucking guests. We've had some damn good guests. Like just some really good guys like same thing with like Megatron, kind, soft spoken, humble legends And even when we even tried to get him to bag on apple Wood, he couldn't. It's probably for his best mental health wise that he's not still mad about that hookup. I mean, if you're carrying that ship with you. You're probably smoking bad weed. You know, this is this is what this is the

chronic I'm not over it. You know, well he must be smoking that chronic that he did get over it, because like he basically told it, like yeah, I don't I don't blame that he did, you know, Yeah, that was a very rock rock and roll at it. Dude. That was like remember George Harrison and Clapton what happened?

He Laila, he takes his woman and uh yeah, I don't think that was her real name, but he but that was the song about her takes her and and Harrison's like, yeah, it's rock and roll and that that's exactly how Ricky Williams handled it. Rock and roll. We're just said rock and roll. Did we settle the prop? Bet? I don't we get you. You were definitely on dir. I think we said three five. I think I counted two. I don't know I counted four. Then we just nearly

got over. Oh so we're over. Yeah, Jules had two back to back right there, got it? I was wrong right right right, all right? Then never, damn it, we got it. You got it? So, like, how much is the position the running back. How much has it changed? I mean, this was the error of the running back. I mean, you think how rich the sport was. We've talked about it. Edrin James I believe was in his

draft right. Uh, we had Marshall, we had Eddie, George, Ricky Williams, I remember Priest Holmes for a few of those years. I mean there was some running back. Davis troll Davis, there was some just Sean Alexander bettis bet the bus. I mean, the game change. This is ground and pound. Let's let's ride our Let's ride our guy until he can't ride. Yeah, I mean, and that's clearly

what they did in this football game. Forty four carries and and you just saw like how gifted Ricky really was when he said, and it's it's a mental thing. It's not just a physical thing. When other guys are tired. And if I'm even a little tired, I know if I'm tired, I know he's tired. So and I know he can't tackle me if he's tired. Yeah, Like I'm better conditioned than he is, and I'm better than him, so he's not getting me. Like, and that's people probably

misunderstand that he's he's a dog. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The media really portrayed him as not that, like he's just Oh, this guy that goes and does this and does that, he just smoke n bro. That guy was a great football team or a football player. And it seemed like, like I've heard through the grapevine, he's been a great football team, worked his fucking ass off. You know, he gives a shout out to every single guy on that big ass long record breaking run. You know, Oh,

the backside receiver came and made the block. Oh my receiver came in, got the force. My full back goes in, blows up the whole like given his praise to all the guys, like not just being that asshole that says I did this, you know what I mean. That's weed too. It's like it makes you kind of it makes you introspective, kind of coke. If you're a coked out guy, you're not giving credit to that whole that whole team. You're saying that was me, that was me. But no, that's

that's the weed talking. We were like, yeah, I'm his own, Yeah it's my uh I had I was trying to do a little scarface. I'm the back guy. That's pretty good. Everybody knew so bad guy to sight, that's a fucking bad guy. I'm the bad guy. Class. That's all I got. Class. That was pretty good. I mean it took a lot to take down Tony Montana. Not as much Ricky Williams could have withstood those gunshots to the way he ran

that dude. No cocaine though, weed Tony Montana. That's one of the old time Like you were dead for a while. What what are we doing? Yeah? But I mean coke can do a lot of things, but it's mostly like I'm the ship. It's not like I can withstand your pubs. The world is yours. You did, Manny, dirty dude. I am a political refugee. I came with a cold Reggie. I feel terrible. I got caught. I don't know what where Reggie even came from. That was bad. Look. That was a bad look. I fuck him up, you know,

as a coast. I'm trying to pick you up. But that was rough, dude. I heard it twice. That was apple White. That was yeah. Apple White was the guy who was handing the ball off to Reggie. Ricky. Now you got me doing it, handing it off to Ricky Williams the best college. I didn't even know who apple White was when I there. Can you imagine if Brady banged your girlfriend and then you had to see him every day? I think if it was that that way, I think it would probably propel me into getting a

better girlfriend. Because it's tom that means we're on the same stratosphere of That's that's my thought process behind it. I I'm just thinking Ricky Williams right now. You know, I'm thinking outside the because this is you know, this is good for it. Yeah, I never know. He seemed like an awesome dude and coolest dressed guy. Who else was cool? Cool dress dudes, cool dress. Randy Moss was a cool dress Randy was like Randy was swaggy early

in his day. But the cool thing about Randy is he'd always keep his he'd pregame, he'd always put his gloves on his face mask. He'd always and he'd be danged, they'd be dangling from his face mask, and you know, you'd be talking to guys and that was like, So I started putting my shirt on the face mask too, because Randy did. Michael Vick was always swaggy with his

own cleats. It was the dope strap cleats. Yeah, insane Jack Lambert, Yeah, I mean that's just old school nitty gritty like eh with the neck roll, beist mode, pist mode. He just had the well he always had crazy tint. Visors Andy had his own stuff. He had his own clothing always remember pist mode. Yeah, and the dreads out the back. It was a cool look. Alvin Kamara, he's he's pretty swaggy. I think he's got like diamond teeth and then he has like a gold mouthpiece that goes

over the diamond teeth. And then he always has like cool cleats, like awesomely painted or colored cleats. And the Saints Black and Gold is like, if you do that, you got to save your money because you don't want to be handing over a grill to a pawn shop. That's a rough look. You know, you got to make sure you got money saved if you're doing that. But hey, Jack, did we forget anything. We were pretty good this episode when we were talking Arnold, he and Devido linked back

up in ninety four for Junior. Yeah, when I looked off, one of them was pregnant, right, Yeah, yeah, Arnold, Arnold. Yeah. We also talked about Running Man release date nineteen eighty seven, Hunger Games Catching Fire release date two thousand and nine, so running Man way ahead. Texas went on to win the national championship under Mac Brown in two thousand and five. Yeah. Surprisingly, damn. I met him. I met him once. I did a thing with this production company. They're all really cool, he was,

he was, alright, he's a legend. His son is a great director too. Up in the air. What else, Juno. He's done a lot of movies. Oh, thank you for smoking. That's a great one. I was going to say Private Parts, but he turned down directing Son of the Beach, another Howard Stern project. I was wrong there, Ivan Rightman recently passed away. Legend right Yeah, Ghostbusters the Regionals, Yeah, I

love those. I speaking of other classic comedies we mentioned, and it was the Hawaiian Tropic Girls on the Bus at the end classic. Also got to give some sewan to Leonard Davis on who was blocking for Ricky all those years. He ended up having an eleven year NFL career, played for the Cardinals, Cowboys, Lions in forty nine ers, and then Ricky mentioned that quarterback room when he got

to New Orleans. It did, in fact have two guys named Billy Joe, Billy Joe Hobert, Billy Joe Tolliver, Danny Warfel and Jake Delone Jake Time, the hometown guy down there in New Orleans. And then lastly we mentioned, uh, some George Harrison tunes there at the end. That was something in which he wrote about Eric Clapton dating his ex wife. It's rumored to believe or in Clapton. I think Tyler is that correct? And Clapton played on it. Wow, is like you took my wife. You can do it.

You can do a little number on my tune. How about that something in the way old Clapton. Let's name the game, all right? Then the game is the run, Rooky run or Rookie breaks the record, something like that. What do you think Ricky smokes the record? Ricky smokes the record. I like it. Gameplay. I mean this is just old school nineties football ground pound mono E mono, big play here, big play there, gameplay. I'd have to say it's like a seven. Yeah, I was gonna say seven.

It's seven. Yeah. There's two good football teams could be some recency bias because you know, it's a different generation of game, you know what I mean, these guys ground and pound. What do you think for star powers? Not? We can go too high here, can't. It's just Ricky Well. I mean you got Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell, Dante hall As. We said, I mean, but I think we gotta go like five to five. What do you think is that

even high? Yeah, we can go five to five. But it is the best college football player of all time. But I mean, he's he's it's five to five. We've had Pro Bowls. I mean, this is the high stakes. He said, this is the biggest it's the biggest rivalry for Texas. He said, he said it's big. He said it was bigger. Did he quote bigger than Oklahoma. That's what Ricky said. Yeah, I was surprised. Kyler's shaking his

head though I likes to go keep it low. Yeah, I mean Kyler, he he I forgot he went to Texas and broke the record for rushing and what do you say, steak six? Yeah, steaks are about I'd go seven.

You gotta give it seven. This is that's a big rivalry. Okay, you get these Texas fans that are gonna be listening to this, they're gonna sit here and say, these fucking Coast people don't know shit, and we don't, and we admittedly don't, and we're doing our best to brush up on college because it's not either of our strong suits. I would say. But I'm learning, I'm loving. We're learning a lot, as long as we learned from it. The name Ricky smokes the record. I mean, that's that's the

best thing on there. Yeah, you gotta go seven at least, right, Yeah? Seven three? Seven point three? What's that? Give us a total of a six point seven total? All right, Well, this was a fun one. Ricky was a great guest. And that's all for this episode of Games with Names, presented by win Bet. Thank you for listening, and thanks to all our sponsors. Make sure to follow us at Games with Names on all socials, write a review. I'm Sam Morrel and I'm Julian Edelman and we'll see you

next time, folks. And Ricky Williams cool guy, cool cool guy. All right, folks,