“Double Doink” with Chris & Kyle Long | 2018 NFC Wildcard Game: Eagles vs. Bears

the Double Doint Game and nothing else. Eagles versus Bears our guests, hmmm, a little awkward. They both have the same last name, Chris Long Kyle Long. Are they related? I don't know. We'll find out. This game is crazy. I mean, this is brutal if you're if you're a Bears fan. First off, those winters are hard enough. They are very tough. It is a windy city, I believe Sam. I think that. Yeah, it's on the lake right, Oh dude, it' that's Have you been there in the I mean in

the heat of winter. I played in a snow game in Chicago and it it was so it as cold as it is and whatever everyone wants to say about it. Go into Soldier Field. It's got like the old skeleton of the old Soldier. They renovated the inside. It was so fun. It's such a cool game. There's so much history there, Defense eighty five Bears, Dick Bulls Bears. I mean, Chicago is a It's a great sports town. It's an incredible sports sown. It's an incredible city. I mean, I

think Ferris Buehler, it's Chicago, dude. That is an unbelievable So that parade, yeah, that was the inspiration of what I felt when we had our like Super Bowl parades. I was trying to be Ferris Bueller up on that stage doing the twist, doing this. I mean, Chicago being a great sports town. But then you have the Philadelphia Eagles, another great sports town. They're psychos. I mean we all think about the eating the poop in the parade or

the throwing of batteries at Santa Claus. I mean, psycho fans in Philly, whether they're killing Santa or eating feces. You guys care. They care a lot, I actual much. Some would say gotten a crazy argument over a guy he was making fun of my haircut all game long in Philadelphia. I thought it was a good haircut. What was he saying? I don't know. I had like these two like zigzags or something in the back of my head. He's like, hey, gentle man, you're not cool enough for that.

I'm like, hey, if you, dude, but uh no. But my first reaction to this game, we just go in and we just talked about how special Chicago is and sports. My first reaction is, is this always gonna happen to Chicago? I mean, they had the nineties Bowl, they had the nineties Bulls, but we're talking football. It's been eighty since the eighty five Bears. Yeah, eighty five Bears, which was considered one of the best teams of all time that

only won one Super Bowl. Did this team have championship aspirations? I mean they traded for Khleia Mack. First game, comes out, has a huge game, Their defense is roaring the year to insane. They got Mitchell Trubisky, who's the second pick overall in this game, played pretty decent. That last drive was impressive. It I mean, he did everything the team needed him to do to get his team into field. Goal range rolette situation, meaning the time is more important

than the points. They sucked down all the time as much as they wanted. They tried to get Parky out there to go out and kick a field goal, and the rest is he's set it up that double doink,

the hits the side, hits the bottom. Like, how do you the bad luck you have to That's literally like being on a flight that's going down and as you're going down, someone like punches you in the face, and it's brutal, very brutal, and it's and it's it's honestly, it's It sucks for the special teams of Chicago because all game long, the punter inside the five, inside the five, he was killing it, killing it Parky. He had some good field goals going into half. What do you have

three or four? Jack how many field goals do you have? Parky was three for four, hit one at the end of the first half to put him up six to three. So yeah, he was all right. I mean, he was having a decent game. And then you know they have the kickoff return by who is that Jackie? Twenty nine. I want to say Tariko. Incredible run, incredible run. Everything seemed to like, go right until the doink and till no, the second doint the second doing the first doink, You're like,

it's dwinking in. Yeah, the second doink it doinked out, Jackie, What do you got? That was Josh Bellamy on the Second Return. Josh Bellamy not to be confused with Bill Bellamy. No, of course I can't confuse that, Jock. I mean, who was in any given Sunday a movie we've referenced about, Yeah, five times. Let's go back. Let's go back to January sixth, twenty nineteen. January sixth, twenty nineteen. What were you doing then,

twenty twenty nineteen? I was. I was a comic on the road, just doing I don't know what city I was in at the time, but uh, I was out there. How about you? Twenty nineteen? That was a good year for you, right, No, that was the beginning of the end. That's true. Damn, that's right. That was Yeah. That was the year that we we got kicked out of the first round of the playoffs and Tom Brady left us. No,

not in twenty nineteen. The beginning. Oh yeah, I was like, I'm not going to tell him what but I remember it being good for him. But actually we won the Super Bowl that year. I did not. We had a lot in my career. You won the super Bowl in twenty We won the super Bowl in twenty eight So that's the thing. A twenty eighteen season ends in twenty nineteen. It's kind of like when you graduate high school. I always think about four, but I was really five because

I was on the four football team on varsity. So like you always, it's a saying, I don't know, no, no, we got it. We had a good year. We had a good year. This year. We were doing well. But what was what was going on in pop culture? The number one movie in America was Aquaman, which I did not see. Amber Herd's life has changed a lot since then. This was this was pre a lot of that. Yeah, it was, Yeah, I never saw I mean, the dude is a beast who what's his name? In Mamoa. Yeah,

he just he's like good looking, yoked, exotic. Yeah, he's got he's got it all. But I just never saw it. I never got in it, never got in it. Ridiculous trends fancy fancy. Doesn't that eliminate the purpose of crocs? Have you seen the high heel croc. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It's a pull it up. It's a crock with high heels. So it's it's ugly and it's uncomfortable. It's like having sex with an ugly person with a bad personality. Look at this, Look at that?

Who would wear that? Oh my, I wonder if they're comfy. They don't look comfy. That's that's gotta be. Are they hard to walk in? Hey? Look they're high heels. They can't be easy. But so but you would think with the high heel And I don't know this from any experience or any thing, but I'm just saying, you probably want something stiff to step down on, so you're not like your stability. I don't know that that's bad. It's a bad idea. There was the Marie Condo minimalism, which

annoyed the hell out of me. Because we're New Yorkers. Our spaces are small. You have a TV and a desk in New York you're a hoarder basically, that's our space. So the minimalism, that's great. If you're in the Midwest, you've got a lot of space. New Yorkers. We have to make do with small space? Got it? What does this even mean? What was this? Can you explain this to me? What is this? It was like get rid of everything that didn't have meaning to you. Yeah, I'm

a hoarder. I'm a hoarder. I'm a order Yeah yeah, it's I yell at my mom for it, like, mom, can you throw this way? And then I look at my place, I'm like that that's a ticket stuff from ten years ago. Why do I have this? I used to have a haul of Oates cover band. I can't I still couldn't throw it away. Oh dude, it's impossible. I just love my shit. I did a bit on Last Comic Standing Back in the Day where I said I used to dat a hoarder and she broke up

with me, which stung. I was like, the one thing she can get rid of it was and nor McDonald was one of the judges. He's like, that's a great joke, and I was like, norm lrip dog, No one was a legend. H So yeah, this was twenty nineteen and the egg on Instagram fifty four million likes? Do we have a picture of that? Jackie? Like? What? What was that that was so weird. I mean, the things that people like these days, and that's how divided America is is an egg is the only thing we can agree on.

It was the what was it? The color? Why was this so big? Jack? I have honestly no idea. You know, there's some white supremacist group that was like, why does it have to be a brown egg? Why can't we be a white egg? My eggs are usually white, right? You know? That was like a KKK talking point. This is a disgrace. What else? The fire Festival doc that

was solid. That was that was very good. I mean that dude, you remember that dude's face, the one who said he would suck dick for one No, remember the dude. I'm talking everyone remembers it. That guy was the man. Could you imagine spending a bunch of month and this is like in the heat right before twenty twenty and COVID and everything, so like festivals were like roaring, everyone's

going to this, Everyone's going to that. Could you imagine showing up to an island that looked like pretty much I don't want to say it, but it looked like like an internment camp. I mean, some would say it was like Nazi Germany. I'm just saying it looked bad and I'm not trying to poke. No fun, we don't poke. Can you imagine how much Jewish we are about Jewish? Can you imagine how bad the Holocaust would have been if jow Rule was promoting us. They're like, Jesus, this

is terrible. But it was jow Rule like ten years out of his prime. Yeah, yeah, he's still shirtless for some reason. But you're like, I don't. I did love that one song by John Everybody, lady. He had some good stuff. He had some good Oh dude, how about Uh? Do you ever see the clip of Job at the Bucks game where he's like are you ready? And they have a technical difficulty and he's like, uh, never mind. He had to like retake and are you I was like, ah, this is a is a bummer. No. I never saw

that one, Sam, I never saw that one. This is highlights from the World of Sports in twenty nineteen. This is the Clemson Trevor Lawrence versus the Alabama Tua tongue boy aloa the son that they said, right Jack, that was correct, Thank you, Jeckie. It's where they met in the title game Clemson won. This is the one time Alabama didn't get there in the last five years. That turned out to be an interesting game. Two elite quarterbacks in college that really haven't found their their run, their

legs and the league yet. Which that that brings up a point everyone wants to say, oh, well, you know they had good Sometimes it's the best ecosystem you're drafted to, and anytime you're drafted number one or number two, you're probably not going to a good ecosystem. Yeah, it's kind of messed up that you're the best and they're like, enjoy Jacksonville. You know, it's like it's a debt. It's it's very hard. Man. That's got to be very hard to be, you know. I mean there's guys that have

done at Peyton Manning he flipped a you know, an organization. Uh, but you know it's it's but it was tough, very tough. I mean, can you imagine going to a team that won one game? No one goes to the games You're coming from Clemson, it's lights out. It's like nirvana every time you go to a game in college. Then you got to go to Jacksonville and it's like the end

of Nirvana. It's the end of Nirvana and like the you know, I've never been to Jacksonville like that, but I mean I can only imagine, yeah, that there's probably like Applebee's and which could be a good lordest hit or misses the state. Let's be honest, it is Florida's got some banger cities and they've got somewhere We're like, ah, this this sucks. I got I got COVID in Orlando, and I'm lucky. That's all I got. Let's put it

that way. Oh my, I've never been more pro choice in my life than on a flight back from Orlando. Kill all these kids. I wanted to I wanted to suffocate one with my travel pillow on the flight. Oh my god. So what uh? We got these? We got these tweets? Yeah, we got tweet What did Julian tweet this day? We do not have a record of that. We have mine. What did I do? What was it? Can we do? Man? What did Sam tweet? The premiere of The Mass Singer was weird? Was that just the

game from pulp fiction? Is that what I got? That's that was fun? Didn't Gronk do the Max the mass singer he did. That show's got Range Gronk and Rudy Giuliani. That's crazy. They really, they're all over the place. Man Gronk does it all he does. He's an ever, a jack of all trades. Really, it was we just did Gronk beach Over in Vegas and I'm still recovering. That was two weeks ago. So let's get to the teams. So the twenty eighteen Philadelphia Eagles were nine and seven.

They were the defending Super Bowl True did they beat I don't remember. I don't know they beat them. Some of us have definitely blocked that out. I wasn't playing. I was actually at that game, and I was with Guy Fiertti and I was supposed to go sit in his box, but it was owned by the Indianapolis Colts. So I literally sitting with Guy Fiertti in the box and someone from the Colts organization makes me leave what

they made me leave the box? So I end up going into some random Why did they make you leave because you're a patriot? I guess, I guess, I mean, what does does Guy stand up for you? No? I mean Guy was trying everything he could, but I I think it was someone really high up over there, which you know, that kind of hurt my feelings, but it's messed up, dude. I met some dude randomly at a different box, literally sitting with random fans in another box

watching this Super Bowl. It was it was something I'll never forget. What about what was guy eating? Do you remember he was? He was probably eating? No, I don't. I was out of the box, Sam, I didn't have to sit with him. No, you don't even have any guy. Oh, does Jack know what he was eating? I believe it was that good Jules's Chris Ballard ring any bells That was a GM of the Colts at the time. Yeah, I don't know if it was him. I'm not going to put out no names there, but I definitely got

taken out, almost in handcuffs. And then honestly, and then another story. You remember Kyle Shanahan. We talked about him in a previous episode that was going on to the Niners. You know, I had a couple Grandpa's old cough medicines that game, so I was feeling kind of frisky. Go to the bathroom, which I thought all boxes usually have their own bathrooms, but there's like a you know, there's like a public bathroom for these boxes over in Minnesota.

It was a little weird to me. But I go in there and I'm taking a piss and this guy starts talking about the super Bowl the year before. I'm like, who is this guy? I'm a little you know, I'm a little hammered. I got a little, you know, a little buzz on, and yeah, you're an older jurnal, you know. And I'm like, all right, dude, yeah, And and I look over. He goes, you don't know who I am? And I go, I really don't. He goes, I'm Kyle Shanahan. Nice to meet you. He did the handshake midstream, not

mid stream, but like we were. We were leaving going to sinks, and I was like, man, I never really knew how you looked. And we played in the year before. He asked me some personal things and I was like, yeah, we'll see how it goes. That's a that's out of a movie. You're an oly urinal urinal to urinal Dick's ass full chatting chatting. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. So this is I mean, this was a crazy game leading up to this. So they're the champs that coming out

being Chams falls again replaces Carson Wentz. I mean that is it's like being an understudy where you're like, but I'm doing better. Isn't that weird? Well it wasn't. I think Carson Wentz this year he was having an MVP type year the year before, the year before, year before, but the only year he wasn't that good? Right, And and it's gotta be weird. Wentz is the guy who comes in with all the heat to Philly and folds is the one who brings him the super Bowl, and

and he leaves as Philly's child. Yeah, he's literally what is the brother the city of brotherly love. They love some big dick. Nick does he have a big dick? I have not been in the urinal with him, but there are so many rumors and talks, and this is I'm gonna I'm gonna get to a urinal and this is a different conference and different division, and I'm hearing this through the grapevine. So I mean, that's that's yeah, what we got. Kind of funny. He shares a backfield

with a guy named Smallwood. I really I think so highly of Jack. I think he's gonna come in and be like, we have Nick's dick. It is eight and a half inches. I'm like, wow, nice, good, good work. Jack. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up to a urinal next to Nick and be like, Nick, you don't know who I am, do you? I know you've got a big pipe whip the ruler I know. Julian Edelman, he says, you have a big dick, and they'll be like security. So this is yeah, the second season folds is that

to replace Went's super weird. They needed a win in Week seventeen against Washington for a playoff berth and they got it. So here they are. This is this is a crazy so many things aligning for Philly two straight years. Al Sean Jeffries. Yeah, Jeffrey goes out and has a little revenge game against the Bears. He was with the Bears before Darren Sprolls, a guy that we haven't seen in a while. We haven't seen, but this was in the heat of when Darren Spoils was Darren Sproles unbelievable

third down running back, crazy career, crazy career rants. I always got so mad that I had to play in his era because he always took the Pro Bowl for punt return because he was so goddamn good, you know. And then he had zach Ertz, who was clearly a stud for that team. The Chicago Bears, on the other hand, they picked pick to finish last in their division. Wasn't was They had Naggy it was his first or second year.

The very first game, they traded for Khalil Mack Kleio Mack, which everyone's like pissed at the Raiders for letting him go, but it makes that defense elite. They get on a crazy record. They have Mitchell Trubisky, drafted second overall in his second season, they get they bring offensive minded guy for Naggy for Mitch doing good things. They're twelve and four in the first year. I mean, things were looking to be pretty good for these Bears, like they were

going into this game probably feeling calm, confident. Won nine out of their last ten games, so they're getting wins left and right. And they beat the Vikings in week seventeen to help Philly actually make the playoffs. So like I bet you, they were already in. They probably little piss that they won that one. Good season for Trubisky by the way, three two hundred and twenty three yards,

twenty four touchdowns, twelve interceptions, three rush touchdowns. But you've said to me that you didn't like how much you ran. Not always, you know, sometimes it's it's it's great to have your quarterback run. But I like seeing the quarterbacks that run with their eyes down field. A Lah, Aaron Rodgers, a La, Patrick Mahomes, all, Josh Allen, guys that are on some elite teams that are playing at a high elite level. They have escapability, just like you know Mitch does.

Mitch has that ability, but they keep their eyes down field. And that's something you know, watching these games over the years with Mitch, you know he's gotten better over his year last you're being a guy that sat on the bench. Gots we got to watch Josh Allen in Buffalo. It'll be interesting to see what he does this year with the Steelers. I'm sure he's gonna be a lot more matured and hopefully he keeps those eyes downfield. Yeah, things we remember from this game, I mean it's named the

double Doink. Got you kinda gotta start with that. You remember that is probably one of the most painful ways to lose a playoff game. Yeah, having a pat type field goal to win in a city that when's the last time they've won a playoff game. It's been a long It's probably been fifteen years back when Irlaker was on the team. So like, as a good kicker and he's set up to win. I mean, was he a good kicker? I feel he was pretty good. I mean

he was a good kicker that day. He was three for three going into that last kick, and he made it before they called a time out and it went through. So that's that's suck the ice, the ice, the ice, the ice, the kicker, and it worked. Lady got out, dude, Einhorn. Parky had hit the upright. Yeah, six times prior to that that season, four coming in a game against Detroit. That's crazy. That's not good. No, And a lot of

this goes back. This game is in twenty nineteen, but a lot of it dates back to twenty sixteen when they cut Robbie Gould and had a revolving door of kickers. Revolving door of kickers, Connor Barth, Cairo Santos, Mike Nugent and the man Egen. Yeah. Ted Nugent's son is Nick Foles the most confounding regular season playoff quarterback. What do you think. I'm still trying to figure out what confounding means. Are you confused? I mean he's there, You're like, what

is he doing here? You know he there's some guys that just turn it on. Your guy, Eli Manning, he turned it on hard, really really hard. And that's what Nick did. And you know he's had some success and it's good to hear those stories. Guys that bounced around. I thought he was a really good quarterback in Arizona for a while. Then he didn't find his team finds this. I mean, that's what it's all about, is about these

types of stories. And I'm I'm I'm so excited to hear from the Long Brothers about these inside stories because they're both going to have some stories on on on Foles and and Chicago Brothers on opposing teams in a huge game. I mean, this is like, this is what it's all about, playoff game, posing team. How many times do you think they probably had this scenario back in the backyard with how he long over there with the ball in his hand saying, hey, you got to get here,

you gotta get there. Like they probably had this in there. This was this had to be kind of deja vui from like childhood? Who does how he long texts first? Which son got it to be the winner? Right? Or did they have a group text? It's got to be a group It's got to be a group text. Now it's you. Obviously, Mom's probably wearing that the half cut jersey with a half this long, half that long. You know, have you seen that? Those are always fun? Nice? But uh,

it's really only for it's not worth making. It's only for the parents. Really it really, it really is. You can only do parents. You can only do parents. And the crazy thing is it's gonna that's one of the best. They got to be close to one of the best families in the league. You got there with the Matthews, You got the Slaters, the Mannings, the Mannings, I mean, I mean the Harballs as coaches. That was pretty crazy too, horrorballs.

This is a huge football family. I'm excited to get these guys in things we may have forgotten, that we may have forgotten that no one wants to talk about. The number one thing that comes in my mind. The ball was deflected, ball was deflected. Parky, Parky got ran out of town. Ball was deflected. Yeah, but that that gives the tip It hit just the tip. But that could really mess up to what is a trajectory? Is that right, Jackie trajectory? Yes, thank you jack. It could

really mess up the trajectory of the football. So like, I mean, is it the kicker's fault? Is it the left tackle's fault? Is it the left wing's fault? Is it the center's fault for giving him a good jump? I mean, whose fault is it? We're gonna ask these Long boys whose fault was I picture? I pictured them fighting for their dad's love, like a succession. Just picture how He Long being a monster. And there's a there's another Long too. There's another Long kid. I think he's uh,

he's in scouting. This was what we got Jackie weird one. But this was how He Long's fifty ninth birthday. Wow, the day of the game. How He Long's fifty ninth birthday looks great? He looks, dude, how He Long He's had. I mean, can we get Howie on the show? Screw the Suns man, this is the Rocks instead of a game. Let's watch a broken arrow and have and Howie Long on the show. Wasn't he in another one? He was in a couple of movie fire Starter. Look at Howie

Long and John Travolta on together. Let's make it happen. I think we can make that happen. Was that Christian Slater? Was it both of them? Both Slater and Travolta. That's a nineties heater. That's a nineties heater. Travolta was on a Kick Boy right after that, was right after Pulp Fiction. Yeah, because he was he was He was dying for a while and then Pulp Fiction re got him. Thank you Tarantino for bringing back Travolta. Parky went on the Today

Show after the double doint. That's that's why you're doing a press tour after that. That's that's brutal. That's one of those kind of games where you want to hide for a while. Yeah, why are you going on the Today Inghorn and Finkle. You might have to change, did Matt Lower I say, don't worry. Things are about to get way worse for me than they are for you. I don't know. Oh, and now this is the part of the show where we go to the gaming corner.

Presented by when Bett. The relevant betting lines. The spread Chicago minus six and a half, six and a half. You know how many points that is in the league. That's a lot. That's like, that's pretty much a blowout if you're getting that many points on a spread. People

did not believe in this Eagles team. They didn't. Well, they were like that they had to win to get in, right, they had to win to get in a couple of times that NFC East has always got like a seven and ten or a seven and nine team that sneaks in and they're always giants. Did they're always in the NFC East? They are, Yeah, they really are the giants. And Philly have done it twice where the vision is always a blood bath. Blood bath. Yeah, Finals over and

under forty nine. That was clearly under. This was a defense, a stout field position game. Once again, the Bears punter was doing very good. Well. We got Jackie weirdly eleven plays of fifteen yards or more in this game, even though it went way under the total. Wow, eleven explosion plays and they still didn't get close to the under or over. What should we do for the prop bet this week? Once again, guys, our prop bet that we

always have. During our interview, me and Sam, Sam and I we go over something that we can do say have the interview, We say and we make like a line on it. Right? Am I explaining this? Right? How about this? Can we get Can we get Julian to say brother versus brother fighting for Daddy's love? How many times can we get him to say that? Will that ruined the interview? No? I think I can get that. Get that out. I think I can get that brother versus brother fighting for Daddy's love. Let's can we get

that twice? Can you say it two times on the interview? I think I think I yeah, I'll take out. I'll take the over. I'm taking the over on that. What he taking? You taking? I think I'm taking the over. I think you can pull it off. I believe in you. All Right, we're gonna hear from Chris Long and Kyle Long, but before that, let's take a quick break. Welcome fellas to Games with names. We got Chris and Kyle My favorite Long other than Howie Long. I mean, how he's

a bronze medal is still pretty good. But what'd you say the bronze medal? If I get the bronze medal and the Long family and you know, actually like there a scouting brother, yea scouting brother. Yeah, he's got the long He's got the long play there too. Off the podium. Yeah. So we're joined here with Chris Long, my dear friend, former teammate to time Super Bowl champ, second pick overall in the two thousand and eight draft, which means he

got paid a boatload of money. They didn't have that cap thing on, So this man has made a lot of money. Walter Peyton Man of the Year in twenty eighteen. Chris was that? Am I right? Yeah? Sounds about right. This guy's got a water a water charity where he feeds and delivers water to countries on cross Quench Quench Quench, you know, we quenched the thirst of these people. And he's the host of the green Light and Amazing podcast.

We're also joined by his studley brother, a man that I worked out with in twenty twelve when he was coming out for the draft. He went and played baseball first, committed to Florida State, decided for some odd reason we'll leave it at that, that he didn't want to play baseball, wanted to use that six foot six frame, three hundred and twelve pounds of solid muscle to try to play in the National Football League as a professional lineman, to

block people like his brother, dear friend. He was drafted twenty. Uh, well, were you drafted twenty? You had twenty exactly. He was drafted really good twenty twenty, which was well above where my dad had fooled me into thinking I was gonna go twenty. You can do the doubter tweets. On draft day, Dad had me convinced I was a fourth rounder. Yeah, that happened. You get drafted. Dad had me convinced I should play offensive line in college. He's not, I mean

he's not. He's not an idiot. He's very he's a very humbling figure. In any way, we weren't as lucky as you. We didn't get to have the ball in our hands jewels, so we had to be Uh. Everything was dictated by a guy who had his hand in the dirt from day one. And yeah, when he when he saw us kind of hit puberty, he was like, oh, yeah, Chris, you're going to be this, Kyle, You're going to be this. Yeah. He had a slotted Yeah, well that's good. You guys know, you guys know why we have you on here to

what we're talking about? Games with names? No idea, games with names. What's the game? The Double Doint Game. Do you guys remember this? I am very well versed in the Double Dont Game. Yeah, yeah, I remember that game. We're going to take a look at some games that we've played in together, and we are going to discuss from our perspectives. Is the things we're going right. This is the premise of the show. This is the premise of the show. Games with Names, guys, the Double Doint Game. Yeah,

we want to get you. I'm happy. What's the first thought you have from that game? What's the first thing that comes in your mind? Honestly, it was talking to your buddy, the the the lineman that was lined up for field goal block, because okay, the way this thing went down was we drilled Trubisky on like a third down, backed up, and he hit this beautiful throw a floater over the middle of the field between the hashes, and

now they're set up to win the game. And you know, like, our team's pretty good, but we weren't sure that we were going to beat the Bears. There's a really tough environment. They're lining up for a field goal. This game is about over. I think my career is pretty much over. And your guy across across the line from me, I can't remember his name, was like, hey man, think about it. You'll be on vacation next week. It's all good. And

he was really trying to cheer me up. Let me give you ten seconds later, right that, you know, we're looking up at this thing floating and doinking and dunkin again. And the thing I remember and I'll never forget was getting to the locker room and hearing from Trayvon Hester, who's an unheralded guy, you know, unsigned cat he was on special teams that he tipped the ball and none

of us knew that. We thought Parky is his name, right, that he just playing shanked it, but Trayvon Hester got a hand on it, and we didn't learn until we got into the locker room. But by then Parky was like already on the hit list of ten thousand. Unfortunately for Cody Parky, He's gonna be infamous in the city of Chicago because of the fact that, as we all know,

fans are educated, but they aren't PhD educated. In the situation, they're not going to understand the nuance of a tipped ball that doesn't go on the statue, but in film, when you look at it on Monday, you're gonna see it. We're all gonna know he probably could have hit it more square though probably true. I mean, yeah, it's forty three yards in December in Chicago. It's it's a bit, you know, it was forty three. Forty It was a longer field goal. It was not I thought it was.

I don't. I don't think it was forty three. It was like thirty seven. Check it out. Google it. Yeah, I mean you could Matt check it out. But you're expecting you're expecting him to make that well. I mean, at that point we had, we had put ourselves in position to win the game. It was forty it was what. It was that big cause it was forty three. It was that big country ass dude. It was. It was therat Brad. Brad sal was like, so hey, man, it's gonna be all right. Man, You're gonna be on vacation.

You go be in Turks and keikos next week, big boy, Chris, I'm thinking the fucking Mosquitoes. I have a lot of practice that going on vacation early for most of my career. So I mean Will Ferrell and east Down, Yeah, actually fucking Schaefer. What I remember, visc is, what I remember vividly is a sense of guilt that I had because my teammate was taking a beating uh nationally in the media and locally in the media. And there were there were drives that there were drives in that game as

an offensive lineman where I didn't finish a block. I was you know, I let off. It wasn't a championship effort for whatever reason. You know, there are plays that you always want to have back, even in Super Bowl wins, jewels, there are plays that you wish you could have back. Chris, Chris, wish you could have back. And unfortunately that game happened to be a loss for me, and it happened because

of the Parky kick. But I know that there were four minute drives, opportunities to bury the Eagles, and we didn't take advantage. And that's how it goes. You know, even if never you win a game or you lose a game, you never think about the things you did well. You always think about the things you didn't do well, Like, I don't know if that was ever your case, Chris, Do you ever think that? Are you always always right? You're always thinking about the worst stuff. I got a

quick question. Did mom come to the game? She did? And everybody she had the split jersey jersey she had split had the cool, you know, tacky embroidered jackets. But I still make fun after it with the gemstones and ship gemstone man Megsanti, I've seen the pictures. Did not have a bedazzled Chris. How about you want to bet let's put a hundred bucks on it right now? Put your baby on it. I don't put the baby? Was

your was your was your dad there? Yeah? Dad was there because I vividly remember after the game Ashton Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher, So, Ashton Kutcher was at the game because he's a huge Bears fan. But I gotta tell you, Ashton Kutcher takes Ship like harder than the players. Bro Like, Ashton Kutcher was in the tunnel. It was like, nice to meet you, Ashton, and he was like, well, fuck, my life's over, and I'm like, dude, like my brother

just fu. I didn't get to meet him because I was so he was he's a big time guy, and I was kind of like, fuck, I was bummed out too. Yeah, he spoke to him hilarius that Ashton Kutcher said, my life is over said that his said that, you know, and it's kind of like as a football player, like you're like, my brother just got his heart ripped out, bro,

Like you're gonna be good now. We're all standing there tapping it up right, like in the tunnel, the buses are all there hanging out, and it's the end of the season. So yeah, I hated that. I hated that for you because y'all's team was pretty good. You were probably I don't know a little bit. It wasn't a good matchup with the Eagles team because of your defensive front. You guys had a very stout and skill the defensive front, with the spearhead of it being Fletcher Cox. I mean,

that's and I had to do. You want the Cox to be you want Fletcher Cox to be the spearhead. He likes Cox bean, spearheaded Cox goes in first, speary Cox. Both your legs are incredible. You're making me feel terrible about my physique, right, look at that holy craft, they go all the way. That's just they're fighting for daddy's love, just like versus brother there doing for daddy's love. Yeah, exactuals you get it, he gets it. No, honestly, I'm good.

Dad loves me. I'm good. Dad loves you. We're good. We don't need to fight over We're never going to be. We're going to be. So is there a tech thread with you, you two and your dad after the game or do you text each other like how soon afterwards you guys talk? You go first because different the dealings with our dad. My dad wears many hats for me because he is my he was my best man at my wedding. He's my best friend. You see how he's trying to win that. He goes he was my best friend.

He was my best man in my wedding. I have to no, seriously, though Christ can attest to this is what he did. This is pretty funny. Let me finish, go finish, and then I got I got a bar. Chris can attest to this. I love dad and he'll talk to me like a friend, and then he'll talk to me like a rigid coach. The night before with a ninety six has chopped spin inside third step, watch stutter underneath from ninety two, be careful around Pile's around

fifty six. He's a dickhead. That'll be like Chris. You know, he'll be texting me about Chris with his number without even meant that, like stuff like that, you know, not that you're a dickhead, but stuff along those lines. And then after the game, it's a really good blend of get the coaching out of the way quick and then how are you doing? Like how are you feeling, how's your body? Do you need anything from me? I can fly somebody out to work on you tomorrow, like that

kind of stuff. Jules, Yeah, but you know that that's that's a good dad. He's a great Who got the text first? Did you get so Kyle get the text first? Because Kyle text him first too if I was out of the well, yeah, I mean, because you like him more and so does my dad. But also but also the fact that Kyle's the younger guy. And Kyle's like, respectfully, like you're you're younger than me, and I'm a child.

I've been there, I've been through it. And Dad's like, you know, kind of that oldest son thing is, like, I don't worry as much about Chris. You were born in the forest son, like like you know, so I think Kyle being younger and coming up in the league and not having the same you know, kind of experience I had, Like Kyle was definitely getting the scouting reports first. But here's what's fucked up. I didn't make that my best man, and you knew that, and then you did

that like to try to wasn't a move. You cucked me, bro, It wasn't intentional. I was probably baked as made the decision. Guys, guys, it's just brothers. I never thought about that until now. I was probably on a golf course and I got a text from my wife that said, you need to narrow down your list and you need to get who the fuck is coming to the man. And I'm like, anywhere this picture. Let's get into this game. Let's get into this game, guys. So defensive battle, yes, first quarter,

I mean, no real big highlights. You guys are just kind of going back and forth. There's a couple of field goals here, Parky. Actually, you know, he actually had he made some decent field goals before the double doink. Yeah, so like going into this thing, he was three for three right right before that, I think he was nails. Yeah, it's three for three. Nobody talks about that. You know, no one talks about that. No one talks about that.

You guys are twelve and four this year because at the ending, no one talks about you know, no one talks about what he had for breakfast. He might have talked about it on Good Morning America, but you know, I didn't watch it. Yeah, he did talk about it on Good Morning, Good Morning to Bear. I didn't watch. Yeah, he was That's the best defense though, Like, because you guys were the Bears, weren't supposed to be anything this year.

You guys had a second year quarterback, first year coach, and Naggie like and watching this game, Mitch didn't look that bad. He looked pretty good. He was making some throws. The defense, was it the best defense you've played with in your career? It was the best defense that I have practiced against and played with. Yeah? Absolutely? Why? How

how so? Uh? The I would say the polarity of the front with Khalil Mack on one side, with Leonard Floyd on the other, with a Keem Hicks anchoring the interior with an unheralded run stopper by the name of Eddie Goldman who was an absolute world beater on first and second down on inside run. The second level was Danny Trevathan and I believe it was Roquan Smith's years. On the back end, you had Kyle Fuller on the on on one side, you had Prince ol Lamara on

the other. On the back end, you had Eddie Jackson who was out of Alabama and he was an All Pro. He was putting up better than Ed Reid numbers from a productivity standpoint in that year. I'm not saying he's better than Ed Reid. In that year, he was putting up numbers like Ed Reid. It was fabulous to watch. And and then and then we played the Eagles and they were more physical defensively, and that was the thing

that did is same. Now, did you go into this game, did you have in the back of your head like because the Eagles every year that you know in the AFC or NFC East, they're always like sneaking in. They

beat up each other all throughout that division. And then some guy, some team comes in nine and seven ends up going on a run just like they did the year before, Like, did you guys have that in the back of your mind, Like, Oh, this team's actually pretty good because you guys were you guys had the game in control. We we truly believe that it was our destiny to not only win that game but went out. I mean, we were thinking, there's nobody that our defense

can't stop. And to a certain degree that was true. The thing that ended up biting us was we were a little bit cute and got to have it situations. The whole stadium knows you're gonna run the ball. We got a little bit cute at certain times and turnover and a lot of coaches and a lot of coaches are guilty of that. Nowadays, it's not a one guy thing.

And we didn't execute in the four minute situation. And I'd love to discuss it further here because I haven't rehashed it since we were well right in the four minute situation? What was the situation? Explain situational football to us. You know, you know what they say. I don't remember what you said, but I remember how it made me feel. That is how I feel about it. My girlfriend says that, yeah, that's the four minute situation. Uh in a nutshell to me.

I haven't gone back and watched the game, but it was one of those things where you're walking off the field and the punt team's coming on the field and you're thinking, that was the opportunity that we just pissed down our leg and now the Eagles are going to celebrate in our field, and they did. They had their ski fifty yards ski masks. The dv Jole just doesn't like some of this stuff. It was terrible stuff. It was terrible. What do you mean I don't like that

kind of stuff. Well, let me finish. We're in the game here, we're doing games with names here, Jeels, I gotta stick to the game. I'm just saying. But he doesn't like the dog mass thing. Dude, I mean, I hear you mass stuff. But here, here's the deal. We you guys did the club dub thing. Here's the rule in pro football, Like, if you have a thing like and you get beat, people might do your thing, but ours is in the locker room. Well, we did it in our locker room on our fifty yard line. Maybe

we did it on the fifty yard line. That says, BS, I'm still gone BS. Well, maybe you guys can get us back next time. Emotional damage. No. I just thought Kyle's an extremely physical player. He always was, and when we played them, I just didn't think they were physical upfront.

And I said that out right. I don't say that often, but I kind of said it because I was kind of pissed off for Kyle because I was like, they have good players, but their scheme wasn't physical, Like they just didn't have a physical, like kind of downhill running again way about them. Yeah, because as you know, Jules, like your scheme is going to dictate how the personnel plays. Sometimes, you know, if you reinforce things through scheme, you know guys are going to be what you want them to be.

And I just didn't feel like they were physical in the run game enough. Now Kyle is because Kyle we had the same running plan that we did two three years prior when we had Jordan Howard in the backfield. He was a he was a Pro Bowl running back behind myself, Josh sitting, Bobby Massey, it was a Cody white Hair. It was it was a really good interior three tough group and there was nobody that we couldn't line up on an ace and deuce. You know what

I'm saying. There, there was nobody that we couldn't do that to. We didn't have that. So an ace block and a deuce block are examples of combination blocks in a gap scheme play. So you've often heard the term power in the running game. Power is where there is a pulling guard and the guard is right next to the center. He pulls to the opposite a gap and

he swipes a match off. He strikes a match off of the deuce tight to the deuce, and he hits the linebacker and that should spring the running back who is being sometimes led blocked by a full back, sometimes not jewels. These are these are personnel discussions for you, But I think power schemes, deuces and aces are a staple and every run game you watch in the NFL sometimes you see power with no pullers. It's the same concept as just two deuces instead of one deuce and

a puller. That's what the Cowboys running back to Zach Martin. Travis Frederick made that famous in Dallas, and guys like EMMITTT. Smith patient runners have made a living being visionaries quite literally with their eyes and seeing things that hit in the holes with patients. And I think, you know, as far as like a defense is concerned, we'd rather have like a standard power because I'd rather, you know, be able to see what the pullers doing, have a tell

that way strength of the play. Yeah, and you know, a team like Dallas who can run that either way with a really good back is really tough to defend. And a lot of teams now, so that's gap. A lot of teams now are running this zone stuff week.

So they line they line up three tight ends on the right side, Sam numbers, They line up three tight ends on the right side, and they pound the right side, pound the right side, and then on the third play they fake get they roll out with a Mitched Trubisky type guy or you know, a Baker Mayfield who can get outside the pocket and launch it downfield. I don't know if Baker's arm is quite there right now, but I don't know who. He's definitely not our guy too.

In Miami. Okay, okay, let's not okay. There's people down here a fucking you know, they're own bath Salts tweeting me about Miami, New York two point zero. Anyways, No, where's Baker right now? What team is in He's still with the Browns technically complaining in Cleveland. And I don't blame him, Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, that's gotta I know Deshaun Watson's good, but that's gotta hurt. That's definitely gotta hurt. I heard their second string is Harvey Weinstein,

so that's really gonna hurt. But uh, I don't know what he'll be playing, but uh, I want I gotta ask you, Chris, because you know this team with the Eagles, Now, once they missed that field goal, are you thinking, like fools, he's our guy again, We're gonna do it again. Is that in your mind? Like this is meant to be the way they missed it. It's interesting because Jewels like you've been through this. I think one of the that makes the Pats great is it's not that they're great

any given year. It's that they're gonna be great every year. They're going to figure out a way to be great every year. Like and that takes a lot. You could tell just by being there one year. And then like more specifically, when I first got to defend a championship because I never got to defend one in New England. Like you realize the challenges of coming back and doing it again because there are so many outside distractions. There's so many guys that just got the bag, whether it's

on the field, off the field, they got paid. There's so many guys that just became stars, you know, like winning a super Bowl. It's like it's like, you know, it makes all these little kings, you know, like all these guys are walking around like all of a sudden, we're hot. Shit. I saw that in Kansas City, you know what I mean. Yeah, and so, and that's not saying anybody in particular wasn't ready, you know, more than anybody else, but it's just a general vibe. And uh

and it's and that go ahead, Jules. Well it's it's it's very tough. People don't realize when you become the sheriff, you're everyone's most wanted, everyone's super Bowls. Each week, when you're the defending Super Bowl champions and we're seeing that, you know, everyone wants to say, you know, we got dynasties coming here and there, and and that's why it's hard, so hard to repeat because people get paid off of

beating your team after you win a Super Bowl. You know, coaches get paid for beating your team after you win a Super Bowl, and that that target is hard to play because the league's so fucking smart. You guys know that everyone can scheme for everyone, everyone's got good players. Teams are literally constructed now to beat teams. I know the bill, the Bills quite literally were chasing. The Bills,

were chasing the Chiefs, and then the bill changed. You know, It's like, yeah, you know, it's like an arms race. It's like in the NFC West when when you've got Kittle and then they draft the kid in Arizona, Who's who's the Clemson kid that's supposed to be able to cover him? Like you make these picks in division now to defend players. You alter your scheme and division to beat a team. Anyways, I just think what Jeweles said is really true, and I didn't realize it fully like

people tell you, but until you experience it. In twenty eighteen, that was one of the hardest years for me. And I've been on one in fifteen and two and fourteen teams like my whole career, Sam so like this was the first eight years of my career, and nobody watched us play like bad teams bright So yeah, Kyle's not consistent for me. I was in rehab watching it. So anyways,

this this fucking this year was tough. We were like four and four at one point or four, and you know, we were the city and Philly's really tough, like Philly, they're hard on you. Oh. I remember I did a gig in Philly recently. I'm at a diner. The way he puts the thing down goes go Eagles Like, that's how intense they are in Philly. That I remember I got this was me. I'm a Giants fan, so I

remember buying on the street. They were like, you know those guys selling those shirts that trash the other teams. I got an Eagle Sucks shirt, so dumb I am. I didn't check it. It It says Eagles sucks. No, not Eagle suck. Eagles suck. Now. I just look like a moron when I wear it, So basically the shirt is sold to make you look like an idiot, which is Geene. Yeah, I got duped by probably a Philly fan. That's so great.

They're the best fan. This guy doesn't know grammar. Look at the they're the best fans ever for shit like that, Like they're just childish in a good way. And then like and that year, but like we saw the other side of it. You know, you come off that honeymoon where Nick Foles has a statue, Doug Peterson's a legend, all this stuff, and like how quickly it changes. Nick Foles has a book in my locker and shit like that. But you know, Carson Wentz comes back, He's he's not himself.

He was never himself after those injuries. He's still trying to find his way. But Nick came in again late in the season for Carson and Eddy, we really rallied around him, Like we had to win a couple of low scoring ball games late in the season. We go in and we play we play the Saints. After that game, in fact, and I got to say, had we beaten the Saints, and Jeweles knows, like it makes nothing for you to say, what if, But like we were we

we could have played with them. I'm not saying we could have beat them, but that's like, that's how tantalizingly close you are. And we went to New Orleans in a game that we lost early in the season down in New Orleans forty seven to seven. Sean Payton ran the fucking score up on us. I don't blame him, uh,

But then the second game we come back. This is how much our team changed, and we really had him beat al Seon Jeffrey drops the ball in two minute drow We're going into score and go on to play in the NFC Championship, and it's picked off and that's the end. Are in the red area, I mean the balls, it's one of those like right in it's like low red,

you know. So so anyways, and it wasn't just that they had a fake punt and shit like that, but it just goes to show you how much a team has to adjust and change, because you're almost shell shocked when you come out of the gate. You're like, fuck, this is really hard. We're five hundred people hate us. And then if you're good enough and tough enough, which we were, we found a way to get back on

the horse, but not quite enough. The season. That's the NFL season though, like like you said earlier on the year, explaining to Sam, like you lose to a team forty whatever to seven when you play them in the playoffs, it's a completely different team. The team in those first four to six weeks is learning what their team can do well. Then those next like five six weeks, then you're sharpening those things for the end of the run, and then you go and see what it gets you

in the playoffs. Now with the butterfly effect for you, Kyle, after this game, I know it was. I mean, it was a shit storm in Chicago about Parky. Good morning America this. But did you guys have some kind of confidence going into the next year, Like, Hey, we got Mitchell Cherubisky, We're gonna have a second year head coach, Matt Naggy who who we didn't expect. You guys weren't expected to go twelve and four and be in the

playoffs that year, Like, were you guys confident? My next real, my next real memory of that offseason was the Walter Payton Man of the Year, the NFL honors. I went to to watch Chris accept as award and Matt Naggi accepted Coach of the Year, and I saw I ran into Matt at the bar, and I really like Matt Naggy. I've said some salty things about Matt Naggy, but I fucking love the guy. I would have blocked my ass off for him, and that tells you everything you need

to know about him. I think the double dooint got us all into our heads a bit, and you could see it when you return for voluntary Uh you know, everybody was there for voluntary stuff obviously, as well as like I'm gonna exaggerate, I'm gonna say, thirty kickers for Rookie Mini Camp showed up and the only kicks that they took, the only fucking kicks that they took were from the forty three yard line. And I'm telling you we were or whatever it was, forty three yard lines.

Uh yeah, thirty seven. Thank you. This could have been a reality show, by the way, this could have been like all the vets are sitting, all the vets are there, like, guys, we're good, we are a good team. Do we just got to forget about it. Just flush it, you know what I mean? Just flush it. I remember the opening meeting was about it. Yeah, but that's the whole thing

is like you got to move on. But here's the thing, dude, And it's the same fucking thing with Super Bowls, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, and coaches don't know how to handle this, how to make people forget about something. You don't make people forget about something by saying, forget about this guy, Just hand us a bunch of next year, see you guys in July, or just flush it. I always did Kyle did I mean Chris? Did Bill ever make you forget about anything? Did he? And maybe that

works because you don't remember. I think he fucking got Did Belichick make you forget? Well? If Belichick did a good thing of like knowing when knowing his team, if his team was doing well, he would cut you down if his team wasn't doing too well, Like in the Super Bowl in sixteen, he wasn't in there raw Ron, he was in there like, hey guys, we need to do this, this this, Like he can read the vibe

of a team, which I think that's huge. Andy's he does preach that like short memory shit all the time, like it doesn't matter if you do good or bad, it's it's on to the next play. But it doesn't happen by raving about you know, like when we came back in eighteen, everybody in the building. We had like banners that were like forget about it kind of things like that. I'm not saying they were like forget about

it as explicitly, but like I can't. It's fucking hanging above the cafeteria that I'm supposed to forget about this thing. And now I'm walking in and we're all and everybody's tight in the ass because they're like, you're expecting that we're going to have this Super Bowl hangover because the first meeting of the year is Hey, it's about all these teams that have them. We're not going to have that, and we're going to do it by forgetting. That's not good.

And it's the same thing with the double doing thing or coming back after a tough thing. Football is like short memory, and you said it. Bill was real good at this, Like Bill come in at the half. People are always like, man, that speech must have been fucking crazy. Twenty eight three. I'm like, yeah, in a movie, dude. Bill was just down there like telling us what plays we fucked up and how we were going to get

back in the game. And that was it. Well to any woman listening that pace to have a short memory, yeah, and to get over things. Yeah, it does, but also for the men too. I want to be I want to be really fair. Sure, sure, but none of us are having sex with men, So mostly for the women, I feel like Bill's first for I feel like Bill's first few words when he walked in the log like, you know, everybody's sitting in there waiting for coach and Sam like these guys will echo this. It's quiet, it's

kind of awkward. The offense is on one side, the defenses on the other. There's a whiteboard for each for each segment of the team, and the kickers are in the shower like you know, beating their dicks or whatever, and your kickers. So the offense and the defense are in there looking at which plays they liked, which plays

they didn't. And then the head coach comes in from the back with like head of security, right, you know uh, And I feel like the door swings open and Bill Belichick, you guys are down a ship ton of points, and he's just like, right, everybody, chill the fuck out. I mean that was kind of it. I mean, and that literally we've had coaches that we've all had coaches that bust in and the door flies open and it's loud and there's a fucking sharpie flying. Yeah, dude, Okay, well

I'm not you're having a conniption right now. See Bill is an information guy. He's gonna give you the information that he thinks you need to do better. I mean, but do you ever remember in like team meetings when he would hit the he would hit the like thing. I always like, I sat so close. I thought like he would break his hand because he would hit it so hard when he's going over a point and we got a fucking block, Yeah we got to tackle. Yeah,

he was karate chopping that fucking podium, dude. And I just used to sit in that meeting so afraid. I've never drank so much fucking coffee in my life than when I lived in New England because I just didn't want to fall asleep in meetings or like be late to anything or whatever. Because the whole it's very unique

in New England. Like I played a bunch of places under a bunch of coaches, I mean, or Saint Louis a bunch of coaches, but nobody ever met with the whole team as much as Bill did, and the pressure and the like paying attention to the head coach, you know, as he breaks down, you know game film from Sunday. Usually that's done sam in separate. You know rooms where

de coordinator's gonna take defense, offense is gonna go over here. No, no, no. And that really ups the accountability because listen, I really care what Jeweles thinks about how I played. Jewels probably cares about how I thought he played. Like that's that's a layer of accountability that you don't get. It's also teachable moments that you know, if I'm sitting in the defensive line room and I don't hear what he says to a special teams guy or to an offensive guy,

I can't learn that lesson from my seat. And I think that's one of the biggest things in football, is like you better learn from other people's mistakes too, and you better know what's going on in the building. You better know the temperature. And everybody knew the temperature, and people like Tom got it from Bill, people like Jewels. I saw Jewels get it so bad one time. That

shit was so funny. I don't know Jeels. It was a Steelers game or something, but it was fucking so funny because I was like here's one of your best players. Here's a guy who's been here a long time. Here's a guy who's a fucking legend in New England. And Bill doesn't care, you know, because today it's about do you remember what he said? Can we share it of a Jewels? Go ahead? I don't care. I mean it was I don't remember exactly. I kind of remember it. I was I was back in the back row flinching.

It was something like it was like it was, yeah, I was like in the back like I fumble the ball that game. He I think he fumbled a ball and Jewels and he did the whole like, we get it, Jewles, you know it's all about you and all this shit and fucking just laid into him. And obviously everybody in the room knows it's not all about Jewels, and we know that Jewles is a great teammate and we'll go

to the wall for us. But you know, Jewles makes a mistake, and what that does is that provides a kid who's the fifty second man on the roster an opportunity to learn from a mistake without him getting yelled at in front of the room. Jewels can take it, Tom can take it, you know, like guys that have been there can take it. And you got that idea real quick. Was like Bill's really fucking smart about chewing people out. He's not going to crush somebody that's not

ready to take that coaching. He uses guys like Tom or Gronk or Jewels or you know, you know Soldier, somebody has been there a while that he can get after. And you got to learn from that. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, he was a great football coach. That's a great coach there. What were the differences in the Super Bowl run in New England versus Philly? Like what plus is minus is?

It was so much funner in Philly. You see, that's see only the only fun only Patriots fans are hung up on this, and Patriots are hung up on this. You think all the championships, they'd worry about them, fucking like drink and eat and like our meetings and like no one said that, No one said here here's the thing, Jules, I got a teammate smile and practice. What is where did this come from? Who said that? Lane Johnson? What

did he say? He said, I will he was on part of my take, which you know the deal on part of my take, like they want you to say something, they try to walk you into saying something. And Lane essentially said that he would rather have fun and win one super Bowl than win five and have no fun, which, like you know, obviously Lane was was was thought the option was still open for us to win another four,

you know. So he was just saying, I like, I like the Philly way of doing things, and and I think there's this Patriot way that gets blown out of proportion, Like it's so fucking scary and tense up there. Like the coolest guys play for that team. Man, there's some great teammates. We had a lot of fun, dude. The biggest difference for me was just you know, you're a part of something new in Philly, he said, meeting meetings. Yeah, meetings is the fucking meetings and walkthroughs. I mean it's

a lot. But we had a hell of fun. We had a ton of fun, dude, so much fun when you were there. That was a great year. Chris was but I here's what I hear what he's saying. I mean, Philly hadn't won forever. That's the fun part. It's like Patriots, it's a dynasty. It's a dynasty, and like listen. Admittedly, you know, my role in New England was I was

more of a role player. You know. The first couple of games of a year, I played a bunch of snaps and the defense changed a little bit and I became kind of like doing some other stuff and that was totally fine. But when I got to Philly, I was doing kind of what I love to do. So it was a lot of fun for me in Philly for a lot of different reasons, and a lot of fun in New England. Every program is fucking different, and

people freak out about this thing. New England is one of two very unique programs in the NFL, and they've also had an opportunity to build their culture over twenty years because of that guy Tom Brady and Bill and guys like Jewels and so that's a unique guy Like Chris Now come in and a cup of coffee and get a super cup of coffee and I'm out, Yeah, you get a Super Bowl. There's a different energy though

in Philly. I mean, like New England, Boston, they got accustomed to winning too much in every sport, and then in Philly, the dude eate horsepoop, Like there's a different No one's eating horsepoop in Boston because they're spoiled. Yeah, they are spoiled. They're spoiled fan base who would never

eat horse Can you admit that? Jewels that New England if you're a seventeen year old, all those little seventeen year old kids that you meet with Tom Brady jerseys on and shaggy hair and Nantucket nectars in their pockets, all those fuck all those fucking kids are spoiled, and no offense to them. But they've been sports fans. They've been spoiled maybe and Drew bledsoe wearing Patriots famly to eat horsepoop, but Tom Brady fans never. I feel that way about h I feel that way about Chicago to

a certain extent. When I got there with Michael Jordan and then Patrick Kane, the Blackhawks were winning every year like they were the top of the town and every sport. Yeah, it kind of raises some pressure for you as other teams, doesn't it, Dude, Like the coups on. So when the Socks won US A World Series, or the Celtics they won, or the Bruins won, and you felt like a you know, he wouldn't know that his team, as New York has won. Well, that's a pretty good run in the nineties. But it was,

you know, like it gives you that pressure. I hear the Bears haven't won since the eighties, right, eighty five eighty five Bears, So it was the January of eighty six. Would you get that fast? Sport's different, like I think, like you look at Pittsburgh. The Pirates fans are starved. It doesn't matter if the Steelers win. Like I think,

every sport does carry its own weight. You know, when I was in Saint Louis, the only time we ever felt pressure was when the Cardinals won the World Series because there would be more people in the stadium because they would be getting honored at halftime. That was it. So like I can tell you that it doesn't always work that way. But yeah, in a city of like champions and shit, yeah, like Boston's had this great thing going and if you're seventeen and you're a Boston fan,

you're fucking spoiled. Welcome to like the real world now, and Brady needs it, man, how about that Saint Luis pizza that with that provel cheese. That that's the where do you stand on that? I hate that ship Emos. It's pretty bad, right, Yeah, dude, I can admit that. And that's another thing. They want you to buy into all their customs where you play like, I don't know, Jewels probably buys into all the Boston customs. I love lobster kid. Who doesn't like it? I love lobster kid? Yeah,

but that's lobster is good? Is good? Toast rays pretty good? Though? Sam? What toast? RAVI always pretty fucking good. It's good, but we're going but put it against lobster Yeah, no question. It just occurred to me that if I played for the Red Sox, me and Jewels would have been best friends and being town you would have just been fucking well. We were on the verge of becoming. But can you imagine, like if I was a left handed pictures both skaters. I just my dream was to be the American show

Hey of Tani in Boston. That would have been really cool. But it's way like I'm a football player and I'm retired now. Dude. When I first met Kyle, I see this like six foot six three, leaving college about to go to Oregon about to go to Oregon, and I saw him do the ladder drill. I'm like, this motherfucker was about to be a beast just off the ladder drill the first thing I saw him doing. He could

do a ladder drill. And these linemen have good feet, but he had such great quick feet at like three point thirty, Like, what the fuck are you doing pitching? Why were you ever pitching? Because he was good at because he's fucking He's like, hey, you know he's got magic powers, dude, like anything ping prow And I forgot about that, uh, And I mean probably in like two thousand and seven, I was like ninety six ninety seven from the left side. Who and you were drafted by

the White Sox, right, Yeah. My dad told him, don't draft him, he's going around. I was a twentieth twentieth round draft pick. So they did take a shot. They gave me a good signing option and I said no, my dad and I said no, and Mom yeah, And I went to Florida State. I had a dui before the spring. How about the Yankees Chris picked me up? Yeah, okay, so the Yankees came in town to work him out

in high school before school, before school. It was like, you know, like school was later or something that day and Kyle had an eight am work out with the Yankees, and Kyle, would you come to the top of the stairs you had overslept? That goes, Hey, Kyle, and I come to the top of the stairs. He goes, Yankees just called. They just left you overslept and what and

you go. Kyle looks down supposedly from the stairs, and I was like no. And there was like a solid forty five seconds of Kyle going no and Dad going yes, just looking up the stairs going yeah. He sucked it up, and it was like he loved you the night before. He didn't want you playing for the Yankees. You know what, I could absolutely a see that guy's Boston. He's a Boston guy. He gave you nitquell. He is a town and I probably gave you Nicol a couple of times

the Red Sox. No, Kyle was Kyle was the best. He's the best. I'm not exaggerating. One of the best athletes I've ever played with or seen. Sweetheart, Sweetheart, dude, he just can't agree athlete. I know you're going to be an eight year pro after I saw the ladder. I've never done the latter drill since Jewels, so I appreciate either. And he all right, let's bring this back to the Double Donk. Any last thoughts on the Double Doink? You guys got anything else afterwards? A quick story this

that nothing on the Double Doink? Anything on the Double Doink? Something? Yeah. The ride home from the Double Donk, I set the fire alarm off in the plane, which is not a good thing. So so we we can vape on our plane a little bit like we were doing a little vaping their jewels, you know, in the back and uh, you know, like I had hit the pen a little too hard, maybe, you know, because the fire alarm wasn't going off for a while there. And then I went

in the bathroom. Everybody was asleep. I go ba to sit in my chair, and all of a sudden, it's like bing bang bang, like one am on the way home from Double Doink. Bro, it's the only time our guy dom our security guy, who I could do no wrong in his eyes, actually looked like he wanted to kill me. So thank god we won that game, because I would have done the same damn thing had we lost it. And that would have. I'm surprised you guys were Cody Parky's flight back. He hit the pen and

he just missed it. It not you know, it's funny. It's funny. We were at home. So he was on the first thing smoking to the studio in New York. Actually, his agent was on the phone call that that evening. I'm sure Cody to get to gm A. He got to tell his side of the story. I thought it was super fucking unfair that there's all these Chicago fans with their hot dogs and their mustard. They were just screaming about him, like sending him death threats, and Trayvon

Hester blocked that kick. I just want people to know that he did. What were you thinking? So they iced him before he hit it, and then he hit it. Son, he did hit it. He drilled it, hit it so what And then the ball was flying true off of the hand the supposed tip which I didn't notice, and the ball was flying true. It hit and then it bounced internally, so it's like, oh, it's still for momentum, it's going inside the Upright's good? And then it went dun dung. It was really yeah, it was more of

a dong than a doink. It was like dong, you know. It was like that church bell, like when there's about to be a shootout in the old western town where you hear that one church bell and then it's like somebody's about to die about this. We should rename the game the dong game, the double dong, the double do This is the long dong game because there's two lungs. Yeah, and there's two dongs. And I used to walk by Chris all the time and he'd always say, they didn't

call my name is not Chris Long for a reason. Wait, double negative. It definitely couldn't have been the double negative. I didn'tive he's a penis thing. I didn't get that gene. His middle name is thickened. Nah dude, Nah dude. Naming kids is hard when you have last name long like it is, you know, a really big Willie Nelson fan that's off the table Willie Long. You know, like that's a lot of pressure to live up to that. It's really hard to name a kid with the last name Long.

So my dad just named one of us Howie. Waited until the third one and he named Howie Howie. Yeah, that's great. That's that's the real long. He works for the Raiders, right or something. He's awesome scout right. Yeah, he wasn't a scout. He was in scouting for eight years. And he's been selling premium seating for their new venues since they started the planning stages. And the guy is a monster. He will sell fucking salt to a slug. Dude. He is out there golfing, he's at the casinos, he's

at the pool. Party's in a suit like talking to fuck like he's that guy. He's moving a shaker. He's a mover and a shaker. That's so weird that Vegas as a football team. Yeah, and that venue has so many like you're gonna perform there, dude, And I'm gonna go, and my brother's gonna sell me fucking tickets to it as long as I'm in Vegas and not Reno. I remember doing a I did a week long gig in Reno, and I think my opener was, man, I've never seen fake tits and oxygen tank on the same person before,

but well, eventually those were built to last. I feel like exactly, No, Reno's rough. Vegas is all right. Vegas is all right for like two nights, right, You guys don't stay there though, you get there a night early and then you're right out right it did and get out. Yeah, And some teams will do two day West Coast trips, which I love, but coaches don't like it because I mean, it's all about them, you know, they you know, it's all about them. They want to get in and get out.

And coaches when you go on the road, you ever notice they tell you to stay in your room and be and then they go out and get drunk and have dinner. They're the first ones off the elevator when you're going to your room in their street clothes, ready to go somewhere. Yeah, but we got to go sit in the room. We can't even like walk around, So that's not fair. And they give you fifty two dollars in an envelope. Fucking life. Ain't fair, dude. The conduct

detrimental to the team. Yeah, no question. Are any guys gambling in Vegas when you're there? Yeah? Not me. I like gambling. I I like betting games loves gambling. And we are both brought to you by win bet. I got to see jewels the last time I got to see him was at our headquarters. Me and him are teammates again, dude, so I didn't see him enough, though. It was a little disappointed. That's where I got the invite here. What do you mean, well, he made it

clear that I'm the favorite. Yeah, he is the favorite. But you know, like Kyle, now that you're saying repeatedly, now that you're out, you gotta bet some football games. I'm down to gamble. It's really fun. I don't know anything though, it's really fun. Hey, I want to thank you guys for coming and sharing your stories. It was It's unreal to see you both. I've never really talked to you both at the same time, I don't think, and I've known you guys for like probably ten fifteen years.

Come fucking visit us, or let's get on the books for a hang, dude, this is I mean, let's take our skateboards and go somewhere. It's a long time coming. Wait, finely, will I appreciate you guys? Come coming on. Why don't you stick around for a quick second so we can get all this audio dialed up? Sammy, where can I find you? Where can I find you? Socials And it's just just just my name, m O R R I L. I'm gonna just crush your socials. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm

gonna do it too. This is cool. I've seen your stuff before. Now we got to All I do is all I do is listen. He comes in yesterday, he's all bummed. He's like, man, fucking Instagram. They always take down my ship when I use anything about pornography or would they do that? They're killing my pedophilia. Yeah, they like four new pedophilia. You are my genre, pedophelia. That is my genre. Okay, appreciate you guys. What an interview. They were great, man, A lot of a lot of

in depth stories. The vaping story is a is a classic. The vaping story just just two brothers fighting for their daddy. You hit it, We did hit it. We we hit we you it was you. You went in. It's team thing. Okay, this is the team thing. I appreciate it. I mean that was is the double is it? The double doink game? Is the double dong game? According to Chris, it sounded like dong. Yeah, Well, be careful googling double dong because

you don't know it's gonna pop up. Absolutely not whoever, whoever would have thought reminds you of the two girls in one cup. We got to get the two. That's a good game to break down. Two girls won't go. We get them on and they're just like, yeah, we ate poop. Fascinating. Now, who really won this game? I mean, Chris Collinsworth named it the double doink. We're over here talking about it, but it's clearly the double dong, the

double dong. It's the Eagles one. But I mean the the tip is really the win, don't you think the what the tip on the on the kick? Yeah, I don't know. It didn't look like I mean, I guess, but I'm thinking outside the box, the butterfly effect, you know, hypothetically speaking, if they would have won this game. As in the Chicago Bears, is Matt and Aggy still there is Mitchell Cherubisky still there? Are they? Are they forming something? Do they gain a confidence? And confidence is huge in

the in the NFL. When you got a confident football team, that's when you start compounding good things one after another and that's how you get championship caliber stuff. And that didn't happen, and you look on the other side, Philly they won the game, but then they go out the next week, like Chris said, and they had a shot to win, they couldn't do it. And if they win, they're playing you guys again, right, was it it was us to go to the ship? Yeah, well that would

have been crazy. Yeah, Nick nick foles again against the Patriots, a nine and seven Eagles team in the Super Bowl. I'm telling you that I think it was jack. What was the score of the What was the Giants when they went to the Super Bowl and eleven? Didn't they sneak in like that too? Nine and eighteen or nine and seven or a ten and six? Yeah? What were we believe? They were? Not and seven? Let me I love it. That's a NFC East Just a bloody sneak in and let's play some good football at the end

of it. But uh corrections. Kyle was actually drafted in the twenty third round. He said the twentieth he was trying to scheme a couple, you know, forward, just to maybe you know, I don't think Kyle would do that, because of course he's the more humble, longer the two. That would definitely be a Chris thing park. He went on the Today Show, We found that not Good Morning America, So we were wrong. It wasn't. We thought it was Good Morning America, GMA. No, that was a Today Show thing.

The Bears had four kickers under contract in five at rookie mini camp that offseason. Wow, that's a lot still he said thirty. I think he was going for hyperbole. I don't think it was definitely hyperbole. Yeah, but but but yeah, that's a lot of kickers. Didn't Tampa Bay do the same thing or what? Remember a couple of years ago? Was it a couple of years ago where they were they were going out there and they held like a tryout for random people to kick if you're

brought out. They brought back my Martin Grammatica. Everyone showed up. Didn't brother was the other one? What was his brother? Yeah? He did Martine Grammatica, and then there was the other Grammatica And didn't he tour his acl doing a celebration after nailing like a fifty three yarder, which is like, I guess it's the time to do it, but it's it's still a bummer. I remember Kevin Brown, the pitcher, I think it was Kevin Brown got injured opening a DVD.

Remember that that's a rough one. There's always those weird injuries in baseball. You hurt your wrist doing something. Yeah, opening a DVD that's like that dates you too. That's like it's like now you just download a movie back in the day, like maybe in the eighties dudes where they were fucking up their wrists with a laser disc or something. You know, Now you could just get a seizures from your video games, which I do believe. No, actually a picture he got arthritis in his wrist from

playing too many video games. That makes sense. Think about how much do you ever just like realize how much you text? You're just tighten here. Yeah, I'm on the TV twelve thing where they, you know, work on my playability flexibility. You know, I drink a lot of water. What kind of water do you drink? pH? Water? Of course? Whoa out line enhanced nine point five pH just keeps you going. It's delicious. So what do we call this game? I'm going double doink still, but U double dong works too.

I like the double dong. Let's go double dong. We call this double dongle. Let's let's score this. So should we start with steaks? What I mean, this is high stakes. It's the playoffs. Was this a divisional round wild card? So they would have had two more games to get to the super Bowl? M So, I mean, yes, it's a playoff game. It's like, what a seven out of ten? Where do you put that? I'm putting that at like a sixty eight a D minus sixty eight. Al Right,

I mean playoff. But it is the playoffs. It is the playoffs. But it's an early playoff game. I mean, we're gonna have eighteen and one super Bowl with Patriots. We're gonna have so we're going out of one hundred here, So out of ten out of ten, six point eight, six point eight. Alright, star star power. Well look what I mean. Nick Foles is coming off Super Bowl MVP. You got to give him some respect for you got

to give him respect. You had a Bennett out there, you had the both the long boys, you had you got Mitch, you had a Jeff Jefferies, Golden Tate, golden best name, best name in the NFL. He sounds like one of the outsiders or something. You're like, this is pony boy, this is Golden Tate. That's that is a really that is a it's a dope name. I've always thought that he's a great player too, and he got traded there what four weeks before war goes out? Makes

a big play, ye star power. I mean, I'll give it. What do you think. I mean, Trubisky is the second overall pick. But you got to look at quarterbacks too, and we're doing a game this big, and you know, I mean, this isn't the Patriots versus the Saints. No, no, no, so that we have to we have to have some seven Yeah, I think that works. You know, we'll give them a flat C, flat sea and star power game play. And you got to give star plower. Also, defranchises, Eagles

and Bears are both legitimate franch very big. See, yeah, that is that is very true. Eagles being you know, a tough Philadelphia brotherly love. Everyone knows about how crazy their fans are. The Bears over here with all the tradition of great defense of Super Bowl and eighty five almost they say that's the best defense of all time with the old forty six the Bear defense. So yeah, we had some star power gameplay. What do you think? I mean? It was a good game. It was definitely.

It wasn't like defensive battle, right, So it's not like we had some good special teams plays by the punter. He was nailing them inside. We had a good kickoff return to set up the last losing kick of course by Parky, which is terrible. But it wasn't like a It wasn't a lights out like a high scoring game, and that could be. You know, I have a little bias because I'm an offensive guy, and as a as a fan, I just, yeah, defensive battles are cool. I

want to see some touchdown. Yeah. I mean when you're in a team a team game in the playoffs, which is very common because you're playing great football teams in the playoff, it's gonna be tough. I would say the game play was probably, you know, seven to three seven. I was gonna say seven too, so I'm won the same wavelength seven We'll go seven to yeah, seven too. I mean even that might be generous. It was like a bloody whatever, let's leave it. Yeah, give them, We'll

give it to him. You know the Long Boys they were in there, led Dot and tears, brothers fighting for their father's love. You know the name double Dom, double Doink, whatever whichever way you put it. You got to put some respect on that name. It's a good name because everyone knows about it. Like, yeah, when we said like they didn't even know what we were doing, I don't know. But we're doing big names here, Like it's not the Malice of the Palace big, it's not the eighteen and

one Patriots big. You know, it's it's the double Doink. It's a double doink. It's it's respectable. But we can't put it in that category. You can't, but it's still a good category. It's still a rememberable game. It's still a game with names. I go seven, I go seven to one for the name. I agree. What's our total with that one, Jackie, This one comes out to a seven point one five as an average. As an average, so the total will be an average, So seven point

one five on the Rubic scale of let scoring. The Games with Names brought to you by wind Bet. This has just been a fun This was a fun one. That was a great one. The long brows are awesome. Just the first time they revisited it too, which is pretty cool, of course. I mean, you know, we're the podcast to revisit the best games with the best names. That's it for this episode of Games with Names, brought to you by wind Bet. This has been a really

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