“28-3” with Danny Amendola | 2017 Super Bowl LI: Patriots vs. Falcons

pomp Man. Today's episode the twenty eight to three game Super Bowl fifty one. You're Patriots versus the Atlanta Falcons. Great game, great game. We have Danny A. Mondola born, raised in Houston, where this Super Bowl took place. It's gonna be a This gonna be a good one. This was a crazy game, man. I remember where I was watching this game. I remember I remember where I was. You were making a huge ass play fourth quarter. I

don't remember keep going. It was crazy, man, I mean this is I think a lot of us were rooting against the Pats here, a lot of us. I know. I thought I was like Matt Ryan's a new guy. Brady's He's finished. Belichick's finished, It's over. The Pat's rain has come to a close. And uh, you knew, I

you know, I didn't know because you look. You take a look at this game, and you have the Atlanta Falcons, the number one scoring offense, Matt Ryan, the MVP, Dan Quinn, the founder of that Seattle six defense that's over here, the head coach for the Atlanta Falcons now. And then you have the on the other spectrum, you have Tom Brady on the revenge game. He was suspended earlier in the year for what, like, what is it the flake game? What? I don't even know what that even means. That he

took some hair out of the ball. No, it's scientifically proven through the PSI when the temperatures are below thirty two degrees PSI drops. I mean, I watched a whole Bill Nye science guy. I'm gonna take your words for it. I have not seen that, but I mean this was this was like a heartbreaker for the Falcons. I mean the Falcons. Atlanta loves their Falcons. They they needed this. I've seen them. They walk a little differently after this. Matt Ryan just like was the MVP. This year he

was MVP. I mean, he was a dude. We were like this, dude's on the rise. You know what this was for him? This is like if the movie Kill Bill, if she gets the Bill and then he kills her. Yeah, Like like you're like, wow, all that for to just get killed? Yeah, That's exactly how it was. Sam and and he uh, it was unfortunate to see what has been the butterfly effect of Matt Ryan after this, But he walks differently now. He really does, he really does.

I mean this is it's like if you have sex with the hottest woman of your life and you can't get hard. That's what I think this was for him. This was the biggest night and he couldn't. He couldn't get it up. He couldn't he got it up for a second. For a second, You're like, wow, he's really he's hard. He didn't have access, no no blue pills. Yeah it'll kill that'll that'll kill you. Guys were blue pilled up in that in that end of the third to the fourth through overtime, we were we were raging.

You were raging, we were raging, rock hard, we were let's just say we were full dude it was. I mean, you were huge. You were huge that play you made in the end. I know some people say it was first down, you had other chances to get it, but that was that was some crazy shit. It was. It was a cool play. But what about that play with Julio Jones on the sideline making an insane catch. If they would have won the game, my catch would have been nothing, and it would have been a Julio Jones

catch for the Super Bowl. So you know, I'm super excited to go over this game. Let's go back though, back to February fifth, twenty seventeen. Yeah, what was going on? I was. I was in Boston. I remember I was. Actually I was playing a comedy called Laugh Boston. I looked it up. I had a weird month. I remember, I was. I was. I was on tour opening an arenas for Amy Schumer and then also playing Jewish Community Centers. Hey, So it was like a real up and down. I'm like,

a gig's a gig man. J c C needs love too, baby, Yeah, the j c C needs love. They do. Now, you were in Boston watching this game. I came back that Sunday to watch it in New York but yeah, I was in Boston. I wish you would have just got to feel. I'm so glad I got You're so glad I got out. You've never really felt this energy and probably your life. That's not true. Eli Manning. He gave it to me twice, and he gave it to you, guys, twice. He gave it to us. To Eli, he had the

blue pill. That game. Dude he was. Eli was like the dude he could. He only got hard when it mattered. Eli was like every moment of his life. He was just like, I don't And then the playoffs came, and so did Giants fans. Am I right, guys? Gosh, I hate the Giants. Oh my god, it's it's such a funny thing to have over Patriots. It's so weird that we have that, you know what. I respect the Giants. Oh they were bad as Yeah, I'm gonna save it. I'm sorry, I'm saving this for the Giants. Save it.

But all right, you were in Boston. You were in Houston. I was in Houston. We were both kind of working. Yeah, we were both working. Number one movie, Number one movie, the Lego Batman movie. Do you ever see that? I never saw it. Did you see it? I tried to watch you with my little girl for a while. It's just it's a lot and I don't really think it's for children, really, I really do. There's like a lot of like adult humor in there. I'm sitting there, I'm like, uh,

isn't that weird when they make movies. I remember I took my niece to see Ralph Breaks the Internet, and you know, at one point she starts crying. She's like, I'm scared. I'm like, you picked the fucking movie. What the hell? Yeah, this wasn't my first pick. Yeah, you know, that's that's a difference between uncle and dad. You let them and you gotta guide him sometimes. But we'll break that down another time. We'll break it down the other times. I never saw it. I heard people love it though

bad and Bougie that's a good tune. And how many times did you see an Instagram story of a girl with you know, doing the bad and bougie? Yeah? Was TikTok around then? TikTok was just coming out? Maybe no Jack, was this TikTok there? TikTok came out twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, so this could have been on TikTok it. None of us were on TikTok yet. Absolutely absolutely that was That was a big tune, though it was a lot of butts shake into that tune. What else some ridiculous trends.

How about the little salt big guy. Oh dude, he's huge. He's got like forty five million followers. He's I think more followers in Obama. How crazy? We got a fact check on that, Jack, I could be wrong, check check Instagram. It's it's because he just put salt on. Like if this was like nowadays, if he made his big hit right now during COVID, I would I don't think I would want him touching my food and then getting his forearm after he was just got a great forearm, by

the way, thank you. That's that's a that's a look at that forearm. It's a good Hey. You know what reminds me of I always wanted good forums. Remember the movie Over the Top with Slvester Stallone. It was the arm wrestling one where you don't remember that movie over the Top he had. Is that a big movie? No one else here seeing it? I love I love Slide, I love slid dude. I've just never seen that one. He was an arm wrestler and he was trying to get a new semi truck so he could take his son,

who I don't know. It was a great movie. We'll move on from that. We'll pull up Rotten Tomatoes show over the Top. I want I want to I want to know what we're working with here? S who else is in that one? Uh? Some young kid, the kid from one of the I don't know. David Mendenhall. Who do we got Jack? We got David Mendenhall. It's saying thirty two on Rotten Tomatoes. I mean rotten Tomato. You gotta pay Rotten Tomatoes to get a good score. And back then, I don't know. I love stallone, Copland, Rocky

creed All that he's a legend. What what else have we got here coming out? Oh? Wow? We had the romp him the romper for men? That's that wasn't a trend? Who had we have the link? Can we see this? The romp him a romper for men? I kid you not, guys, this is not did you ever do one of these? No? But I was with Rob Nikovich this past Saturday and he was wearing a pineapple romper at his barbecue, you that he wore, and then I would we had some Rhode Island. You know people over there that that are

Fromode Island. And I guess if you're wearing pineapples, that means you're a swinger. Wow. And then if you go to like a grocery store, why why is pineapple? I have no clue, But I guess if you go to a grocery store and if you see someone with the upside down pineapple in their cart, that means they're down. Really yeah, I gotta start going to the grocery store just just lingering in the whole foods. Dude, you better

put that pineapple upside down. That's you know some you know, some old ladies like, oh, look at that lovely pineapple. Sure she doesn't know, she has no clue, there's no idea what she let you introduce her? Uh? What the romper men and rompers to me is like if that's the last imagine being at the urinal on a dude. He's taking it off. But is it a one piece or is it just a two is? I think it's a two piece. No, it's a one piece. Not not for men, not for men, yeah, I think I may

have gotta go. You gotta have aye. The women's bath I have worn one, you've worn one. I think I have all right. I don't mean to shame here. It's all right. We don't shame him. This is a we don't we canceled canceling on this podcast. The game day, game day tweets, game day tweets. Day of the game, Julian tweeted game day hashtag won more, hashtag let's go. And this week of the game, Sam did not tweet or he probably got it scrubbed. I probably got it scrubbed.

That probably wrote something racist or misogynistic. And you know, hey, comedy is comedy. Hey, it's hard to pay those bills. I'm just, you know what, I just I'm trying to protect the future here. Hey, that aren't we all. Let's get into the teams. The twenty sixteen New England Patriots fourteen and two. That's pretty damn good. Lost one first four when Brady was out against I think the Buffalo Bills.

And then week was this when Garoppolo was qban. Garoppolo came in first three, he heard his shoulder and the Jacoby Burssett came in and we won that. He finished the third game, we lost, ended up losing to the fourth game, but no one could play because Jacoby broke his thumb or something that I don't know. You won the AFC East for the eighth consecutive year best scoring defense. Brady,

as you said, suspended four games because of deflake Gate. Uh. Yeah, I mean, damn, this is a speculation, this would be that this would be Brady's last run. Yeah, I mean this is crazy. I remember thinking, like, I guess Brady is done. Did you guys ever think that? Or no, you had a feeling he could have gone forever here. I was hoping he was gonna go forever. I was always you know, they train you over there to have everything like blinders on, worry about what's going on now.

And yes there was rumbles and talks of what's gonna happen potentially, But like, did he seem irked by that? Ah? I don't know. I don't. He's got He's got unbelievable partmentalization skills. So like, Brady's the same kind of guy every day when he comes in. Now there's a select few of people that know him, and he'll open up too but like for everyone, like Brady is like the ultimate leader. You know, he comes in. Did you have a rock of pineapple romper in the green room? I

don't think he. I don't think he did. Just why did you say the greenroom? I'm a moron in the locker room. Locker room? Hey man, it's that's that's your locker room, though, the green room is your locker room. True, you know, is there green room talk? There's greenroom talk because there's locker room talk. Yeah, yeah, all heard that. I would hope. I mean, that would be weird if you kept at PG in in this this year. Didn't. Wasn't that like a huge thing about locker room talk

in twenty sixteen with Trump and stuff? Yeah? I think so, the locker room talk. But let's let's jump over to the Falcons. Yeah, twenty sixteen Falcons eleven and five. They were hot. They lost. The crazy thing is both these two teams twenty sixteen Pats and Falcons lost to Seattle. Hmm, that's crazy. Crazy. Dan Quinn's second years as a head coach came over from Seattle, implicated that awesome defense that helped them partnered with that great offense with Matt Ryan,

Julio Jones, Momo, Devonte Freeman. Like this was a stout, crazy team. Little side note, Kyle Shanahan's last game was going to San Francisco. Does this lead into like does this This kind of made me think because I remember when Billy O'Brien we were in the Super Bowl in twenty eleven, going playing in Indianapolis and he was leaving. He knew he was leaving to Penn State. This was the collapse that they had going in from the third quarter in the offense kind of had it, you know, sputtered.

Was Kyle Shanahan's mind already in San Francisco. I don't know. Does this affect the team? Kind of does it? I don't know, but Billy O'Brien did it. We ended up losing that Super Bowl. It kind of reminds me of that. So this is the biggest comeback in Super Bowl history. I mean, that's that? Is that going through your head? I'm thinking the locker room, you're down I think twenty one to three, but then there's two and a half three minutes left in the third quarter, you're down twenty

eight to three. Is there a point where you were like we lost. Nah, but after that twenty eight to three, Y're sitting there like, we can't mess up anymore. What's the vibe in the locker room? You know that was a raw rock guy. You know it's gonna be a hell of a story. Come on, guys. You know everyone was pretty much focused in. You know, the coaches were doing a good job kind of settling guys down, like, hey, we were moving the football. We just need to tighten

things up. We had three things we had to do in this game that were like specific coaching points. We couldn't turn the ball over. We had a pick six and we turned the ball over with Legarrett Blunt on a drive going into the end zone or going into scoring area. We had to score in the red area. We didn't do that. We kicked a field goal in the first half, and we threw a pick six in

the red area. And we had to do well on third down, and I don't think our third down numbers were good by any means in the first two and a half quarters. So like we were playing the game the way we couldn't play to beat a very good football team. In order to combat a really good offense, you got to keep that other defense on the field, and we were not doing that. But we knew if we tightened things up, we played one play at a time like we were moving the ball. We were doing

pretty well. It's just we weren't finishing drives. We had one play mess up. And that's the thing with football. It's an ultimate team sport. Eleven men have to do their job at the same time for six seconds, and if one guy messes up, it could be a colossal fuck up. This becomes the fifth Super Bowl for the Patriots. Yeah, one for the thumb. Does this make Tom Brady the goat? He becomes the all time leader in Super Bowls for a quarterback. Belichick becomes the all time leader of Super

Bowls for a coach? Sam, is it annoying that Patriots are just winning and doing anyse things? As a New York fan, I think you're breeding some obnoxious kids in Boston. I think I think when you look at how much they've wont it's not just your fault. The Red Sox are winning, the Bruins, you know, the Celtics. The Celtics got yeah they got one, and yeah, I mean yeah, it's your breeding. An annoying an annoying fan base of kids who are entitled and expect greatness. I mean, I'll

put it this way. I'm Knicks, Yankees, Rangers, Giants. The Knicks losing throughout my childhood gave me a sense of humility, you know what I mean. The Yankees Yankees fans got too cocky because you kind of had that expectation. I think they I think they lost their stripes Yankees fans. Yeah, they've lost the stripes. They haven't. They haven't lost it. No, they're in first place right now. They're doing great there, they're rocking. But you know, uh no, Yeah, it annoyed me.

I expected you guys to lose. I didn't think you're gonna come back. I mean the fact that this Brady become the goat this game, right, I mean, that's the that's the crazy thing. He's probably the goat here and then he keeps playing it is weird. I thought he was the goat before though. On four. Yeah, because he did in a free agent era. He did it. He didn't he did in a free agent era like back in the day when Bradshaw Montana, you know, and Aikman when he got three these these quarterbacks a lot of

these teams were bought. There was no salary cap. There was like free agency was lacking, and and Tom went through two different you know teams. You know, he had the first generation Pats where he won three. Then this is his second with the second generation Pats. Then he goes on to win it, you know, in the future another one. So like, I don't know, that's a hot take. Everyone wants to talk about it, but I mean it's

hard to do it with different teams. What was I mean the energy going into overtime when you guys tie it, I mean that was insane. You're down, uh, twenty twenty eight to twelve at a certain point. So then it's like, all right, it's a two possession game, mister field goal. Right, so it's twenty it's twenty twenty eight to twelve. You have to do two touchdowns and to two point conversions, which is very hard. That's what people don't realize. The

two point conversion. Getting one is very hard. It's just for some reason, it's always extremely hard. There's less space, there's less area in the red area, especially on the two. You got guys pinned back ready to go at it to get two. That was pretty insane. But to have the blinders on, like I said, and guys believing if we just do one play at a time. You know, once we got that ball in halftime, we knew we

were winning. We knew we were winning. The only thing worse than the Falcons collapse in the Super Bowl was the Kendall Jenner commercial. You remember that, the Pepsi one whereas it's like the protesters and the cops and she hands a cop a pepsi. You know that's just and that's supposed to say. Everyone's like, oh, we could drink pepsi. This is like, this was the beginning of like Twitter really being like you idiot, what are you doing. They're remaking this one and Kiev where she hands one to

the Russian military and it really saves everything. I mean, the Jenners, they just they're there, world savers. They are world savers. Jenners and Kardashians. Yeah, everyone's trying to be like them. Everyone's trying to look like them, ever trying to be with them. This was kind of the beginning

of Kendall in the public eye. I feel like too, this was like her, Yeah, this was her her starting point and of her going on, and Kendall is the one that ruins basketball player's careers, right, I think so, I mean I think they all do. I think that's like the Kardashian curse, right, so Kardashian Jenner, Yeah, both of them. It's a slash. It's a slash hyphenated or is a slashed? No, I don't think it's Is it hyphenate? No, it's slash. It's a slash. It's definitely slash. But you know, yeah,

she dated book or who else did she date? She? I think they just ruined everybody. Simmons and Men's. Wow, that's tough. Blake Griffin. Blake also just played at a crazy physical level. I mean he's you know, yeah, but they started dating. Then he got traded to Detroit. That's tough from La La, Like, I'm not a big La guy. But Detroit, Oh, Detroit's actually pretty fun. I mean everything's pretty fun for you. You You have a good life, yeah, but you know Detroit, you go there, you feel American.

You see nothing about nothing but American in La over Detroit for a reason. Yeah, my child lives here, sam my child. But if your child moved to Detroit, you'd be like shit, dude, I'd be so happy. Have you had Detroit style pizza? It's like square pizza. It is great pizza. It's really good pizza. I'm not I've had great times in Detroit. I wouldn't want to live in Detroit. Hey, man, you know it's the heartland. It's the heartland. Making sure

not to alienate listeners here. How many? How many? What if you got traded at the Detroit Lions, would you be happy? Who's the quarterback? Is this Stafford? Sure? Hey, I wouldn't. You'd rather the Tom Brady New England Patriots. Was Tom in New England when I got traded? Yeah, then that'd be Yeah. I mean it's different. It's different. I mean that's apples and oranges. Sam, all right, you know, work and living. I refuse to believe you'd be happy

to go to there's a crazy Hi. There's some nice areas, sure I've been. It's I've had great times in Detroit. I'm just saying Detroit rock city. Man. Yeah. How many memes did you see on this? A lot of? Man? Twenty eight to three. I still see it the scoreboard. They won't the date. The Falcons will never live this down. That's what's tough is like, we all know how hard it is. And by we all, I mean you to

get to the super Bowl, it's it's hard. It's very They make it to the super Bowl, and to lose in to be this close and to lose, that's that's honestly the worst as an athlete. Yeah, Like, you rather lose in the AFC Championship. Of course, you got to lose in the first round. You lose in the super Bowl, it ruins your whole offseason. You have a taste in the back of your throat that you just can't get rid of. He was thinking about top Matt Ryan was

picturing hoisting the trophy. You know, it was in his mind. You know, they had those T shirts a ready coming out, Yeah, before they shipped them to a third world country where they think the Falcons roughed you guys up. Yeah. And the thing is, we did see people start coming on the sideline, and I bet that fired you up. I mean we're like, what are we doing? What? What are we doing? You can't do that, but hey, I feel like Tom is also a dude that if you give

him any fuel, any anything, any fuel. Did he say anything in the locker room at halftime. No, he's Tom's He's got to stay level minded because everyone's watching them. Yeah, you know he and then sometimes when you're that like big, he can't. He can't go and raw rock guys all the time because it could make him freeze. You know, they get all scared. It's Tom Brady. The guys been watching them since they were like two, and then now

they're playing on the same team with them. And this was like five years ago and I can only met there's like kids that aren't even born five years into their career now that are playing with them. But it's nuts. Now, he didn't do that. It's been in the league as long as one of his teammates has been alive. Now, yeah, I think multiple, Yeah, it's crazy multiple. Yeah, dude's got a he's got he's got some durability pliability. I guess

I just picture him. I've seen too many football movies where I just picture him being like, you pussies need to make us proud, and you're like, but he doesn't. He doesn't do that. It wasn't like that. No, there's other guys for that. There's other guys for that. And did anyone talk up and say like, what do you got? You guys want to you guys want to be a disgrace that you guys want to lose to Atlanta. No, it's it's that's kind of raw rock college stuff. Oh okay.

You know in the pros, especially with the team teams that I wrote that I was on with the Patriots, they bring in good guys, you know what I mean. A lot of it is like the psychological the psychological makeup of a lot of these guys are like hard working dudes. That team guys. You know, there wasn't a lot of divas, so it wasn't really like that. It was like we have to focus up or you know, it's going to be a shitty day. How about Belichick?

What did he say? Belichick doesn't like he's very good at understanding what his team needs and when they need it. So if they're doing really well, he's going to cut you down. Wow, if you're doing if you guys are blowing a team out, well we could have done this, we kind of done we could do this. But if

we're doing it's a pretty good Belichick there. Hey, I was around him for a long time and yeah, and so but if the team is doing shitty like he's going to give you the answers what he thinks it is that we have to do all right, fellas, we gotta do this. We got to tighten it up. It's very this is you know, this is this is work, this is a business. This isn't you know the program or or you know the old movies, any given Sunday or that's a good one. And again it was Sunday Solid.

That was really good. Jamie Fox, Willie Steamen Beaman, come on, man, Willy Beaman, keep the girl. I like how that movie they had to be like this, like the Something Sharks. Yeah, because the NFL clearly will not like clearly not just doing blow and banging women and chopping cars in half. Remember the show playmakers, Yes, three end, Yes, well they did. That was another one where they couldn't use NFL teams because it was like dudes beating their wives and stuff

and uh, what's his name? That was the whole plot. First off, the tight end is gay on that show. That was all which like a little on the nose, but uh, the tight end come on, and then uh then uh the running back beat his wife and he's like it's a war on the field. You're telling me it can't be award home and you're like, yeah, of course you gotta you gotta not do that at home to a got it. I mean, if we look at

the track record, it doesn't look like it was far off. Yeah. No, it was a great show, didn't I didn't watch it was my makers back in the day. It was on ESPN. I think, wasn't it You remember that right Manney making? Yeah, cougars and then uh yeah, any given Sunday is great, though, great, that's a classic Pacino. Life is a game of it. See that's what I picture Belichick being like life is a game of inches, you know, which he wouldn't do. Nah.

He's more of like, we got a block, and he does this weird handclap like where or he is like a podium and he hits the podium with his hand and I look at that and I'm like, it's gotta hurt. It's gotta hurt. Every time he goes we had block, you had to tackle, and you're like, that's all we really, that's it. Yeah, And then we do those things and we end up winning, and it's like, oh fuck, it's

not that hard. It keeps it simple. You think of the movies and like Pacino in any given Sunday, he goes, he goes a little too hard on that speech where he's like, I made every remember the thing where he goes, I made every young choice a middle aged man could make. And you're like, why are you saying this far? This seems a little too much. Nah, But there are coaches like that that are you know, like who Billy O'Brien. Yeah,

he was a very hearty guy. You know, he's the head coach or he was the head coach of the Houston Texans and Penn State. Did they like that? You think some guys do. But you know then sometimes you got a guy making twenty million dollars sitting here looking at a guy yelling at him saying, hey, fuck you dude, shut up. Yeah, you know what I mean. So like it's uh, and we didn't have many of those guys, but there it's just they got cut. Probably if you

had an a get cut. It's just if they were going to invest in someone, it was going to probably be in a guy that's not going to be a problem. Distractions. But let's get over to the gaming Corner presented by win Bett. The betting lines of this game Patriots were minus three won that one. Yeah, over and under fifty three to one Patriots. What is mL money money line? Geez, I'm on a gambling show. This is a gambling segment. Are you a gambler? Not a big gambler? I don't

like losing money. I gambled once and we all saw how that went one hundred K down the toilet. Not cool. But let's do our prop bet. Bet with your heart. That's the problem. If you bet with your heart, you should be betting with your head, right, Yeah, I know your heart? You always? I mean, dude, if I if I bet with my heart, I'd never win. So but then the one time you try to bet with your head, you lose too. Do you think? So? Always? What's this prop bet going to be? I don't know what should

we do? How many? How many times you can say, hmmm, how many times will Danny bring up you gotta believe? Gotta believe any of those? You think he'll say that a lot? I think get them. I think we can get the over under has got to be three, okay, maybe two? Two? You gotta believe is a decent amount. Let's go with two. You gotta believe. Two. You gotta believes. Today we're gonna be joined by Danny Amminbrola A Mondola. I mean, before we talk to Danny A Mondola, Let's

take a quick break, and we are here. The most anticipated guest thus far here on Games with Names, the handsome, the clutch, the two time Super Bowl champ, one of the coolest dudes I know. I swear to God, Eagles BFFs, Eagles, Rams, Patriots, Dolphins, Lions, Texans. That's the teams he played for. Guys, he's played for a lot. They call him a journeyman. He's also got an unbelievable smile. Danny A. Mindola, Welcome to Games with Names,

presented by when Bett. How are you doing. I'm great, brother, How are you doing? Thanks for having me. You know I'm doing I'm doing better now that you're here. You know, Chris Long was good. I don't know if we're supposed to be talking about that on your episode because this is dedicated to you and Super Bowl fifty one. Is that Muhammad Ali wallpaper behind you? Yes, sir, Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah, we're in my Sturry no, Sam, That's

what he is. If you want, if you want to, if you want to be cool, go hang out with him for one day. I'm trying to. We got him on the show. I'm excited. I've heard so much about Danny from Jewels. I mean, this is this is an exciting game to have you on because this is the twenty eight to three game. I mean, you balled out in this game. Balld out. This playoff Danny being playoff Danny,

And this is playoff Danny being playoff Danny. About fourteen to sixteen miles away from the Woodlands where he grew up, born and raised All state baseball player. He may have played a couple of basketball games, don't know, played a lot of football out of five a school. Then he goes to Texas. This guy's mister Texas. And then he goes to play in one of the most infamous football games in the history of the National Football League in his hometown stadium and has what did he have? He

had four catches? What do you have, Jack Dola? Eight catches seventy eight yards, a tuddy and a two point conversion. And aw that was a big two point conversion too. You guys needed. Yeah, we were down by a lot. The best thing about that whole week was building a

bro jo in one of my best friend's garage. So every pretty much after every practice, Julian and I and Foxboro will go back to our house, one of our houses and play ping pong to where it's sick in the head, I mean, dip spit everywhere, shirts off, sweating, dusting, but nobody, I mean, we're in the basement in a Foxboro place. So we had to kind of duplicate that

in Houston. So I called up one of my best friends who lives like a couple miles from the stadium, and I was like, bro, he's meanwhile, his wife is pregnant, like eight seven eight months pregnant with their first child. We in fact build a bro Joe den in his garage so we can kind of emulate a regular week of practice for us. So we kind of turned his his garage, put a pink pong table in it, put a couch in there, put a couple of tables, and then next thing you know, me and Julian we brought

Gronk over there. All my high school buddies came over and we were just chilling kind of emulating a normal week, which was one of the best memories I've had from that game. But I mean, you guys saw how that game turned out. It was just a long night for us. We were running, we ran, we probably I probably lost ten pounds that game of just waterway just sweating. I got.

I remember I got four ivy total of the whole game, two before and then two at halftime, and I got one of those recently, but it was for a hangover. But those work for hangovers. Now, how come there were? How come there was? How come you were so tired in this game? Why? Why? Why? Why would that occur? Aren't you guys like and how were you guys prepared

for it? Danny? We were, Well, we knew they were gonna play a lot of man coverage on you know, second third down, so we knew we were going to be have running routes as opposed to sitting down in zones kind of working at a slower pacing zone route. So we knew we were gonna be running all night.

But thank god that the halftime was so long. I guess the halftime is twenty minutes as opposed to whatever the ten eight minutes we get at a normal game, because I was in there, I got I got a bag, and I said, we had enough time to get to get two bags of ivy just to get all the liquids back in. But we were running all all night.

And then also with the amount of plays, I think we played what one hundred and five off offensive snaps, which an average is usually like sixty, So we had to go out and pretty much sprint one hundred and five times. Is that because your defense was getting killed? Well that no, it was because our defense was getting the ball back for us. Remember in the second half, Oh right, they were getting us the ball back, so they were keeping their offense off the field, and it

lined up where we had to run a lot. What do we got, Jack? Ninety nine offensive snaps? Ninety nine offensive snaps? Jack, Danny, I'm curious. I mean, you're you're back home for this big game? Was it? Is it stressful having all your friends around that week leading up to the Super Bowl? Maybe a time where you want to mentally prepare. It was probably it was a close. It was my close. So it was like three or four guys that came over and that's pretty much it.

But you know, it swept for tickets though. Oh man, Yeah, I bought as many tickets as I could. I got thirty seven tickets, and we had to pay for all of them. And I didn't make any of my friends pay me. I just kind of gave them out and hoping it I ended up in a ditch somewhere one day, they're gonna be there to pull me out. But uh we uh we have you ever kill a hooker by accident? That friend has got to help you, barrier what I said, I got, I got thirty seven, thirty seven motherfuckers. Yeah,

I don't forget. But yeah, another thing to add on onto why we were so spent that night, tired, just because the way the swing, this, the way the game flow was going, we were we were down by a lot. They were running the ball, you know, their receivers were chilling.

We were down, so we had to we had to throw the ball, spread it out, throw it out, try to get chunk yarders plays and and you have we our most comfortable set to do that in was you know, three white outs, sometimes four white out sets, so we could stretch the field and make chunks. But yeah, we were I remember I remember somewhere in the third or the fourth quarter, was I we had I mean your face, you know, you're covered in snot like nob he gives

a shit about anything. You're bleeding, like you like Julian had dip all over his beard, like it was like eye black was running in your eyes. Like it was like nobody gave a shit except let's get to the next series. Let's hit to the next drive with as much energy as we possibly can. Do you remember any specific scouting reports about this defense that was so damn stout in that first half, even though we were kind of moving the ball and we turned it over twice.

Do you remember anything specifically in the preparation. Well, we knew that we knew they were going to play a lot of Cover three and they played that Seattle defense that we faced the year before. They had dan Quinn. Dan Quinn, they had the same coordinators they had. They had a big, a big down safety presence with Pool. I think thirty seven was the post safety. Uh we weren't. We offered Alford was their best corner who matched up on Julian all night. And then they were down true

font who got injured previously in the season. So they put thirty two in I can't remember his name, and then Pool was in the slot number thirty four, who we felt we matched up. I thought I matched up great against and and they were a good team. They they you know, they they prided themselves on, uh stopping the run with the down safety. So they're going to play a lot of Cover three. They're gonna leave some open gaps if we could get to them in the

passing game. And then once we start spreading them out, they started switching to more you know, two man, a little bit more post safety man coverage when we started running a lot of passing plays. So let's get into the game. So the beginning part of the game, first drive will be three and out. It I don't even remember three out it. I feel like it was a

shitty first drive. Yeah. I think we three and outed like the first three, three or four and we're no. Then we started driving, right we started off, Yeah, we started off fairly slow. Yeah, well the first quarter was scoreless entirely. Yeah, it was scoreless. But what were the three things? Do you remember what Bill used to say at the beginning this game, the three things we needed to do to do in this game to win this game.

Play smart, specifically smart, tough, fundamentally sound football. No, remember he I mean he did definitely say that. He always said, Remember, like, all right, this game's gonna come down to three things. Oh yeah, third down, you're gonna have to do good. We're gonna have to score points in the red area, touchdowns, and we're gonna have to not turn the ball over. First half, what we do all three of those things. We turned the ball over pick six in the red area.

Then we go and freaking we're driving into scoring territory and Legarrett you know, got smoked and you know, fumbled, and then we were just turning the ball over and we weren't scoring in the red area. What did what was going on in the locker? I black out during games, so I don't even remember what went on in the halftime. So do all your fans in Boston. By the way, he's from Boston, he's from Situate. Oh is it not really? But kind of yeah, So yeah, you're down by this much,

it's twenty one three. Yeah at halftime? Yeah, there was really not a whole lot. Do you could say, I mean, there is there's two things that what is one thing that you hit that I remember, what is one thing you would always say? Well, what is one thing that you always say that I made up all the time? I mean, gotta believe. I couldn't hear you what I made that up? By the way, what what made what up? I made that up? What did you make up? Gotta believe?

Who's gotta believe? Though, Who's gotta believe? We gotta believe? So is that what you said in the locker room? You're just like, Oh, you gotta believe. This is what we gotta do. Believe? What were you specifically doing in the locker room at halftime after getting ivs. There's two things I remember being in the locker room after I got my IV One coach said it's gonna take a lot more than what twenty four points to beat us tonight. And then the other thing I remember is Julian walking around.

I'm pretty sure he had his shirt off for reasons. I'm not sure. I don't know why his patrio off at this time, but he was it was hot. He was saying, Oh, this is gonna be a hell of a story. Boys, this is gonna be a hell of a story. Wow, that's awesome. And what would I say after that, it's gonna be a hell of a story. It turned out to be a hell of a story. But then I would also say my my infamous saying that I made up. We gotta believe, Yeah, we gotta believe.

We'll kind it. But uh, there's no chance you made that up, fully made that up. So yeah, I mean, I love that you're being robber in the locker room, that you're being positive. That's such good energy, you know, But once it hits twenty eight to three, is any part of you like, maybe this isn't our game? Is it any part of you thinking that? Or no, don't lie, don't lie, Danny, don't lie. Danny. Haame's on the sideline saying, what the fuck, guys, this is gonna be the worst

offseason ever. We're not even gonna get to do anything. Jesus Christ, I'm probably not even be here next year. What were what was really going through your mind? Danny? Give me the real shit. I want to hear this fantistically one guy and your team had to be like

you blew it? You blewed like that was probably Chris Long. Honestly, yo, we were we get I mean, I've been down in games before, and I've gotten you know, killed in games before, but I was like, this is the super Bowl, everybody's watching this, and we better scored just so we don't get run out of the building, honestly, because we were down by so much. And and I remember it was I think it was like a I think it was four.

It was a fourth down in the third quarter, and I had caught it out like a ten yard out as ghost right, so it caught a ten yard out on the play, And I was like, it was at that point, was so tired, and I felt like my back was completely against I thought I was digging myself out of a hole. And at that point, we're just

trying to focus on one play after another. Just don't don't fuck up so we don't have to hear that shit from Bill and we could keep rolling and and that that that goes to show you the strength of the football team. Like that's how a lot of guys felt. A lot of guys were like, you know, we're not We're not out of this thing yet. That's how most that's how the team felt like it's gonna take more.

We knew that we had to pick up some things, of course, but like we were driving the decently and we When you play in the Super Bowl, the rhythm of that game is tough, right, Yeah, Well, the whole time I'm looking at the clock in relation to the score, and I think it's it was like it read three fourteen and we were down by sixteen, and I was like, and we're moving the ball a little bit. I think

we got it. We just got the strip sack. We're I think it was like maybe high, like you know, high two minute mark, and I'm like, shit, if we score here, we're gonna get to two and then all we got to do is get the ball back right after that and then we'll be set. So I was like, the time in my mind was working out, but then you have to the time in my mind was working out that it's it was going to come down to the wire if we did everything right, and but you had to get too too. You had to get two

point conversions and those aren't easy. Well, you know, you remember we never put more than two more than one two point conversions in that week, and for whatever reason, we had two two point conversion plays, for whatever reasons, the first time we ever did that. So we got to actually the practiced. We got to ect. I know, so we usually we already know the two point play.

It's probably something that we haven't got to run, y acause only run a handful of them a year, but we we for whatever reason, I thought it was so odd preparing for the game that we had we had installed two two point plays. So I'm like, oh shit, and then it comes down and I'm fucking laughing my ass off, like and the last the second, the second two point play was to me and I was like, we practiced it. I don't even know if it really even worked in practice, so this is kind of like

hit or miss. So it was like, but I'm like, these coaches are getting yester that my theory on this Sam is the guy on the wall right behind us, Ernie Adams. He actually cracked the simulation that we're in and knew that it would come down to two two point conversions because that's the kind of guy Ernie Adams is. Let Bill know. Bill then therefore made the team put in two two point conversions, and Danny scored the game winning two point conversion to get us tied to then

go into halftime and or overtime. Overtime, he is to to Belichick what text Winner is to Phil Jackson. Is that fair to say? Basically he's that influential in the Patriots culture. Ernie, Yeah, do you have any stories about Ernie? Bill? Bill built Ernie his own private press box on the visitors side, and it's like this little tiny two seater that Ernie sits and watches every game. But it's like an Eagles nest, like Ernie Ernie and the Eagles nest up at the top of the top of Foxboro Stadium.

Talks a top of Gillette. Story Wise, I didn't really interact too much with it, and then they had to have built. I was just I was just so nice. I was just super nice to him, like he you know, he didn't say much to me. I didn't say much to him. I usually dap him up and be kind of awkward with him in the hallway and then he'd crack a smile so he'd be Uh. He's definitely a football mind and has a lot of perspective on the game.

Do you remember him always bringing in a fucking huge hairloom tomato and that's what he would eat only for the whole day. He would sit at the table by himself in the cafeteria with no with a forking knife. Thank god. He would fork and knife this thing, a little pepper, no salt. He always stayed away from the sodium and he would eat that thing. And I would just sit there every day and I'd walk by him, like, Hey, already,

how's the tomatoes, ego, they're in season? What so there's four forty eight It was five fifty six lest in this game. This is when Brady hits you six yard touchdown, Danny. I mean, like, what are you thinking you get that touchdown? You're down eight? Yeah, well we're down touchdown in your home field. We were down, and I remember we got a I got a we audibled. I guess they they went to cover four. Uh, they moved uh the slot player inside a shade, and we knew it coverage we

were getting. And then tom uh signaled Gotti to us or which was quit basically a fight guaright out and to go on the outside. And it was, honestly, it was like, I was pretty I was pretty embarrassed that I fell down and caught the ball. That was the first thing that went through my head. But then I was so thankful that I didn't drop the ball because I was like, I remember just turning around. It was

ball was coming fast. And then we were down and tired, and usually you don't celebrate or do shit when you're so when you score a touchdown and you're down. So I just kind of ran back to the huddle. You know, I knew we were going to go have to go for two. I already knew the play. I think James White it was to play the direct to James White. After that he had a big game too. Well, yeah,

James White. James isn't he unsung hero? James White, No doubt, He's one of the best teammates, one of the best players, great running back. This guy looks like Marshall's fault some days and on film and he's just he's amazing. What did Tom say anything to you after that play? No, we were just head head was still down. We're still cruising. We got a lot of work to do. We got to come up with the ball in eight points and

in a couple of minutes. And Julian would always say it, I remember the first I first scored my first touchdown of the Super Bowl. Well, Julian's played in a lot of Super Bowls over the years, and you know, a lot of battles with the Jets, I mean side of the Giants, and he would always tell me, does it. I don't care what you do. He would always, I don't care what you do in this game. It doesn't count of wish you win. I'm like that. And then

it didn't hit me until we lost. I lost the Super Bowl after a couple of years later, and I was like, yeah, this game is nobody remembers. The people who lost the Super Bowl just went like the prey. They put whatever team wins on blast, and rightfully so, but yeah, yeah a lot of so. So you score that touchdown and then Falcons get the ball back. Julio Jones goes up on the sideline makes a freaking insane catch. Are you sitting there saying, oh fuck, did we just

lose this now? Yeah? Yeah, Like what did you think about that? Got that catch? Oh? Unbelievable this. I was right on our sideline too, and he was double covered. I think that damn to some form of too high but double covered. Matt Ryan obviously funny about only where he could catch it. He jumps over to cats and then sticks his toe in the ground and I'm like, that was the sickest catch I've ever seen in my entire life, and they're about to run this clock out

and we're completely fucked. So uh yeah, I thought that was so soon. And then you got that we we felt like we got the extra life when Trey got that sack and then they had the hole Dean and then they kind of fucked up a wet dream with that whole play calling. Sequinshaw. Yeah, well they try to, you know, instead of running the ball, and then they got behind and they tried to make a you know, a chunk play out of a five step drop, missed the blitz, and High Tower comes out with a big

sad play of the game play of the game. I mean, yeah, this was I mean, this is when things went downhill. I mean this is like, literally, Matt, I don't think Matt Ryan has recovered from this moment. It's it's he's gonna We're gonna find out this year maybe a new new territory and new environment will help him get rid of those demons of the old nineteen or Super Bowl fifty one, so fall out, So I have to ask you, Julian makes this catch with two twenty eight left. What's

what's going through you ahead? When he makes Are you thinking that he didn't come down with it? No? I knew he's covered in like that was a gut of a movie. No, yeah, red shirts on Julian. It was the It was better than the Julio catch. The Julio catch was like pure athletic ability, looked like a like fucking amazing catch. Julian was just pure grit and just that ball's not hitting the ground no matter what how, no matter who kicks it. Like the cover. The route

was good, the coverage was good. The rout was shitty, Danny, the route was shitty. I would have gave him a little you could have gave I rounded it like a banana. You're on fucking page night. We were on ninety nine by then. It was bad. I didn't need the cushion up. I didn't give him a sellout to the out? Is it? You could have given't that the worst nightmare of your life when you're running a scene versus too high in the in the safety or in the in the cover

corner looks back at the ball before you do. I think there's a couple of different ways, though, because you know, he he knew what you were running obviously, you you know it was an off. It was a uh well is it a Scene Reid kind of thing? Beam read? I think it was bunker bunker, Yeah, So you could either go to the post or cross. You got two man, you could have gave him a little bit more outside. I liked how you kept your speed though, because it's

hard to give him something and then still keep your speed. Uh. He made a pretty good play. He turned around, he was ready to jump for the ball, and he made the best play he could. But the fact that I watched it, I've watched it over and over obviously, But the fact that you you jumped off one foot and then you're in the air and in your mind you had already redirected your body, and then you already you came down and redirected your body the other way when

you hit the ground. So you were jumping one way with anticipation to do one thing over here, and then by the time you had hit the ground yet you had already decided that your foot was gonna go the other way, which was impressive to me. And then the fact that that did, I mean, is an amazing catch Bro, amazing. Did I say any do you remember? Yeah? I mean communicate after that. Yeah, so I remember remember I said, hey, did you catch that? And he goes, yeah, I caught it.

And I was like, oh, yeah, he caught it all right. Once you said that, I know you caught it. Very next play, very next play, they hit Dola on the crosser? Was the crosser like for like a twenty hourd game, was that the next player or was the next third down? It was? It was I think it was close to the next place, so we might have very next play it might have been. Yeah, we had a cross And then at that point, Bro, I felt like the water

the dam has broken. We were we had so much momentum and these these guys were getting so tired conditionally that we're not. They weren't ready to follow us around for whatever how many minutes we played, you know, seventy five minutes, but they they we were running so much. We were in better physical condition. Yeah, and that's and that's one of those things where we used to have to run. We were at we would condition. We conditioned that week of the Super Bowl and everyone's sitting here like,

what the fuck are we doing? Why are we conditioning? And like once again, Ernie cracked the simulation. Knew that we needed to get more sprints in because we were gonna have a fucking ninety nine play game going into overtime. We win the toss. What were you thinking? Game over game set match? We got this or what? Yeah? And there was no doubt online we were about to and I think we went. My favorite drive of the game was to fit my favorite one because I think every

skilled position, every skilled position person touched the ball. I think I think James, Malcolm James in order. I had the third. I think Julian had a crosser hug you had to come back, Martellis had a catch or a I think it was a. He had a big PI. He had a seam in the N, a P, I, a seam and then a PI and then we give the ball to James to close it out. I mean, everybody touched the ball in the last drive, which it

was was so sick. And do you you remember the first person you talked to after the game was over. Did you guys connect quickly or what happened? It was madness, right? We Uh, it was madness. I can't remember. I blocked out. I ran around like through my helmet. Uh, just grabbed anybody I could. I remember Julian tackled me full on game tackle. And then I linked up with my I got a good picture of that. Yeah. And then I linked up with my mom actually right after that and

had a great celebration with her. And it was it was awesome, man, it was awesome. Yeah, definitely amazing to be in the hometown for that one. And and I had played in that stadium probably ten times before, but for whatever reason, I that stadium looked so different to me that night, Like I'll never go back in there and it will be the same feeling as that night. But that's crazy. Any any good post super Bowl stories that you have, Danny. Let's see, I got a couple.

We might have to edit a couple of these. Yeah, I got one. I remember after the first Super Bowl we won, we went to this Harvard Harvard party. We go to this Harvard party. It's like this where I expect the Patriots to go. You guys want to go somewhere crazy, I'm thinking Cambridge. No, this is the night before the parade, so we were stuck in Boston. So we're stuck in Boston and we're like, we got like a Phoenix party, Like I think it was Julian's brilliant idea. Anyway,

We're like, we got the Phoenix Club. They won't have us to come out tonight. I'm like perfect. So we go get some sushi. Completely we're blocked out at sushi. We're walking around. We go to a club. We helped the car. Remember a car in the snowstorm. Yeah, the car gets stuck. Me and Daddy get out of the

car to push the car off the freeway. This little old lady like in the middle of the in the middle of the freeway, like going on it on your way downtown, but just rescued by two drunk Patriots too drunk the super Bowl winning page afterwards you rescue a cash from a tree, which is amazing when you're in that. Say, that same night, we go get sushi. We're ripping it.

We find a guy. We go to this little club before the Phoenix party, right, and we find this guy and we have we have probably thirty bottles of champagne at this small little venue and all we're doing is pouring him on each other and then breaking the bottles. And we paid the guy just to clean up the bottle, all the glass. All he had was a broom in a in, a in a mop, and a in a bucket and he probably picked up thirty five bottles of champagne. We just broke in the back of this bar. He

was picking him up. And then we go to this Harvard party and we walk in and then all these you know, kids are upstairs and it's like a huge uh like fit you and there it's I guess like I'm the right house, but it's like you can rent this house out. And they're all like like cameras action, and it was it was insane. I go up. I actually, uh, I'll skip to later that night. We were we were leaving stories too. I got I had to get out.

I had to get out of there, and uh wow and uh juwe I go upstairs to tell Julian that I was I had to go and and he's he's sitting he's up in like this mysterious, mysterious psychedelic bedroom and he's sitting on the bed with his shirt off and the sunglasses on, smoking a Marlboro Red and he's got like fifteen chicks around him just and he's telling like the same stories we're talking about right now, like just old war stories and the's and I'm like, hey, Joels,

I gotta get out of here. He's all right boops. After that, I saw him at the Prey the next day. My favorite part of the Marlboro Red. That's of course you're going with the most aggressive cigarette. Oh that's amazing, dude, I love that. That same night, I will leave it at that. No, come on, don't tease us. We were at that club and some guy he's got a phone. You remember that. I don't remember the guy with the phone. I grabbed the phone. Oh this is like, dude, whears

my car. You guys sharing to pieces together. It was it was it was a It was an awesome night. And and you know, getting to get tell him about getting to the parade in the morning with Officer your office. Yeah, we we had a police escort, Like we were supposed to go back to Foxborough to take a bus back. We ended up staying in the city, hopped in a cop car, lights on, went in the to this to the parade in a cop car, going through all these

lights and stuff. Literally drink drinking champagne, drinking champagne in the back of the cop furst. I don't know if we've bought my howks with the most aggressive police. Unless you play for the Patriots, you can literally do whatever you want. We'll have to blink out the name. What uh? I want to have a go ahead. A couple of questions about you got you guys and your romance. I mean, so, first off, who's a better quarterback between you two? He

played college quarterback. That wasn't for me. I kind of gave that up at like eighth ninth grade. I was like, there's too much decision making you this. I just kind of want to run around on the field. I just want to black out and get in the back of a cop car. I don't want to I don't want to read schemes. That's but you both had big throws in big games. Yeah, you know, we we played a lot of baseball growing up. His dad was, you know, very strong influence on him as a coach, and same

with me. My dad's a high school football coach. So we were active. Man. We were in the gym, in the cages and on the field every single day growing up. As a kid. You just toss them wall you catch one ball, you got to throw it back, so you might as well make it nice. So that's kind of how we grew up, and we both you know, I got a couple. How many touchdown passes you have in the league, Jewels, I mean, I got Jack. You got one for six, one hundred and twenty eight yards and

a touchdown. Julian, you have a one hundred and fifty eight point three passer rating. Yeah, correction, Jules has two two touchdowns and one hundred and fifty eight point three passer rating. One the Philip dor said against the Eagles, Danny you have one TOUCHDWN. You know I threw a touchdown pass to Danny Mondola. That's amazing. What was the divisional round? Yeah, that was ironically we practiced that play

probably ten times and was the only play. Only time it worked was the only time it ever worked was in the game. Danny, you're three for four passes, eighty three yards, two touchdowns, one hundred and fifty six point two passer rating, both insane passer ratings. Hey, you know, that's that's what you gotta do. Like you said, you catch you, you gotta throw it back. Yeah, is Julian's locker. The smellius in the locker room. No, without question, bro,

without question, he had every single game and practice. I think he disposed of his gloves, but he keeps the gloves like in his locker, like in the open part, and there's like four hundred pairs of glove like smelly old ones in there. And he's like, he's like he thinks he's Willie May's Hayes, you know, like who steals second base and like has to pit it against his wall. I'm like, dude, you caught three passes yesterday and practice, like you don't need to save the gloves and frame them. Right.

It's so since Yeah, he's a complete yellow shirt yellow shirt. Yeah he's He wore the same yellow shirt every day he played football, Like we get it. Kent State, Baby, Kent State was a reminder of all the people that went to Alabama, the big schools like Texas, Tech, Tech whatever. It's like, Pop, I said, Buddy, I am what I am, Kent Steak golden yellow baby. All right, Dola, any last thing regarding what would you name this game? What would you name the game? I have no idea. The twenty

eight three game. Is that what it's known as? Right? Now I think it's twenty eight three. Yeah, I mean to me, it was just a Houston blur. It was I you know, I have a couple memories in my head, seared in my head, but it was just a blur to me. It was like complete exhaustion by the end of the game, Like all I wanted to do is get a cocktail ready to go and party it out. Danny, what's your drink? I drink? I like vodka, Little Tito's

from Austin, shout out Tito's. But yeah, an he likes bud Light Seltzer too, right, But we love bud Light Seltzer and bud Light Seltzer's are I'm obsessed with bud Light Seltzer. I'm just saying, you know, anyway, keep an eye off with my whiskey. Bodegga cat which is coming might be out by the time this comes out. So Bodega Cat, Bodega Cat. Whiskey. Yeah, you have a whiskey coming up coming out. Man, you're gonna like it's really good,

all right. I love I love a good Tito's still good Tito's Martini man loose, Yeah, the goose will make you loose. Yeah. The goose will make you loose, all right, Dola, We appreciate you, appreciate you. Thanks for having me. Well, that was a great interview. He was awesome and I felt the love between you two. It's it's a it's a romance that we'll go down in history as one of the best. I think it's special. It is very special. The thing is when you get to go to work

with people you love, that's that's fucking awesome. You know what I mean, everyone in the room we feel it, right, we feel that, you know, And that's the environment. Once he got traded, it was like, yeah, we wouldn't want another super boar, but it was like not the same. How bummed were you when he got traded or he signed somewhere else or I don't know, sign he signed with Miami? That Miami, yeah, Miami. It everyone gets cut traded. You're happy your friend gets a good contract. Happy he

got a good contract. But selfishly, I was pissed off because, like he said, we're not gonna have the ping pong anymore. We're not gonna have bro time get to cut to you like playing ping pong ping pong against a wall and just hitting it by yourself. No, I didn't force gump it. I didn't force Gump, but I had to recruit other players to play. But then I became the sheriff. But deep down in my heart, I knew I wasn't

the sheriff. Danny was always the sheriff when it came to ping pong, so like it was like false hope, you know, beating up on all these little slappies left and right. But deep down in my heart, I knew Danny would come here and scrape me. I needed that. I needed that competition. Yeah, and you guys were both like bruiser wide receivers. Yeah, he was. He was a He was a very tough, tough football player. Man. He he also had probably the best hand eye coordination I've

ever seen. I mean, you could throw anything at him and he can't be looking. He won't be looking, and he can snag it somehow. This that, a lighter, a ball, a fucking a can, a dip, a water, a beer, anything. He could do like some sport catch trick, catch on it, Like that's just how like cool he was, Yeah, you know, and then wave his hair, but whatever, that's just that's Danny. Yeah, dude,

I'm sure you guys did damage on that town. I'm picturing these knights in the cop car, messed up meeting chicks. We had a lot of fun. Boston is a great sports town to live and be a professional athlete. And I'll tell you that right now. Yeah, it was fun. A lot of thick Boston accents coming out of your hotel room. They are home. I guess that was always jewels. It's crazy, that was the thing. Jeweles and dola a dola, Hey, jewels. The women. So with the prop bet, I think you

got it out of him. They gotta believes, do we do? We hit that jack, We got five gotta believes you really dragged it at a dola there, So we cashed the bit. We cashed it. We cashed it, dude. And just just for everyone to know, I made it up. Don't let don't let don't let that little uh, that Italian charm just come off through his voice. And if you're watching this through his little, uh, little eyewink, don't

let that fool you. I made that up. Italians and Jews have a weirdly similar energy at times, don't you think over protective mothers? Yes, uh, Italians a swaggy Italian is very similar to a swaggy Jew. Yeah, but they're always a little better looking. I think they're always a little better like they do have You're a handsome fella, yeah, but I mean Danny's better looking. You gotta call a spade a spade his choice, you know what I mean?

It is what it is. If I was a gay man, I'd be happy to be held down by either of you. I'll put it that way. So what's the legacy of this game? I mean, James White, we talked a little about him. We should have probably talked more about him because one hundred and thirty nine total yards, two rushing touchdowns, game winning touchdown by the way, one receiving touchdown in a two point conversion. I mean, should he have been

the MVP? Should have been Brady? Does it matter? Because it's a team game, and that's really all that matters at the end. It's a team game. But that's what

like these championship teams have. They always have these unsung heroes, and that's the kind of guy James White was like he was a beast, not just a beast, but in meetings at work with this demeanor, with this attitude nothing ever fail one of the like just calm, cool, collect guys I've ever met my life, and it rubs off on guys, and that's a that's a form of leadership when you have that for younger players to see, like, oh, James White isn't bitching about having to do ten extra

half gasters. I can't say shit because James is doing it. And then you see it shine on the biggest stages of all time with guys like James White, past you know, past guys like Shane Ververen, the Danium Mondolas, the Chris Hogan's, the Malcolm Mitchell's, Everyone's got their part. High tower, high tower, I mean unsung hero unsung heroes, Trey Flowers. Big play, big play. Yeah, a lot of guys have to make plays in order to win those games. This is a

tough one. We've talked about it, but it's a tough one for Matt Ryan. It really is. Uh, I mean, twenty eighth to three, It's tough. That's the name of the game. You You'll never forget that, you know what. I honestly feel bad for Matt Ryan because he had an incredible season, unbelievable year and I actually used to watch game film of this guy. So I've always kind of liked Matt Ryan because we were in the same system in college when I was thrown when I was

a quarterback, he ran the same offense. My offensive coordinator was his offensive coordinator at Boston College, and so I always had a fan Like I was always a fan of Matt Ryan. Obviously not on this day, but to see the ripple effect of what this has done to that team, him specifically, I mean, you don't want to see that on anyone. He's a stud, he's a great football player, and to see, you know, these last few years after that, it just seems like it's kind of

messed with his psyche. Yeah, you know what I mean. You know how much time and effort I do, because you know, you're a professional athlete. You know how much time effort, how much he cares about what he's doing and trying to get to where he's trying to go, and to see it not always get there, and to see guys not be able to get back to the dance again, like that's that's that's sad. I feel bad for those guys. You know, it didn't happen in my career.

I've been fucking lucky that I got to play with where I got to play with, who I got to play with, under people I played for, you know what I mean. So he got lucky in ways too, having you know, such a great offense to throw it to. So, I mean, just because they didn't win doesn't mean that people won't talk about Matt Ryan is having a great career. He's an MVP. Yeah, but no he probably they're not

going to talk about that. Yeah, maybe not. You know what I mean, that's just winning, winning something And what did he say? No one fucking remembers second place? Yeah, it's it's and this is a podcast to celebrate both sides, and I'm celebrating Matt Ryan. Right. People remember second place? Sometimes? Do they? Nazi Germany? They came in second, right, they're the bad guys, but we remember them, Sam, you got one on me, all right? I mean you remember them

because of this game the ground. Yeah, I mean, look, there are great players who never won twenty years down the road. You know, when there's like robots fair enough, if they're talking about it, are they gonna be talking about Matt Ryan? That's when that's when we don't watch football players anymore. We watch football teams, and maybe there'll be a robot that blows a twenty eight to three lead in the Robot Bowl and we're like that dude was so close to being an icon robot, but he wasn't.

But he wasn't, But he still has opportunity. I'm I'm looking forward still playing He's but he's what is he an Indie? I think that's gonna be a good But is he starting Indie? Yeah? He should be. He should be starting in Indy, and I think that could be a good matchup. You know, Indy needs a quarterback. The Wentz thing didn't really happen the way they wanted it to last year, but Wentz played pretty good. Yeah, Jack, who is it Peterson or what's his name? Who's the

head coach for the Colts? Samy? Frank right? Frank right, Like he's a he's a good quarterback coach. I'm I'm I'm really really interested to see where this goes with him and Matt Ryan going into this year with that run game, with that great defense that the Colts have. So yeah, and there's literally no distractions in Indianapolis, So there's I've been there many times there's nothing to do but football. So Saint Almos, Saint Elmos Steakhouse is great.

That you can't go there every night, No you can't. But if you have like a cold or something, you go and get that shrimp cocktail. And they hate They put so much goddamn fucking horse radish in that thing. It blows your socks off. Legendary horse radish. It's too much, almost like I do. I like it too, but like, yeah, I want to enjoy my food. Well then don't get a little less. Put a little less sauce on it. And that's what I'll have to do. Easy solution, let's

less sauce. Has Atlanta recovered from this as a team? God? No? No, I mean Braves won a championship last year's World Series. Different sport, Bulldogs won. It's football is different. Why. I just think the Falcons the energy They've never won, They've never won a Super Bowl. No, right, the energy is different. I remember I watched a playoff game there in a bar was Falcons versus Giants. I think it was the year that they beat the past the second time. And

I'm wearing an Eli jersey in the in the bar. No, one said a rude thing to me, and I was like, who are these people? You're supposed to insult me? I'm a visitor, you know. Everyone was like, oh, hey, how are you? I'm like, fucking cowards. Typical New Yorker cowards look at him, Typical New Yorker just just wants he just craves coldness. I was like, when no one spat on me, what do you guys? Soft do that? In Philly, Philly, they would have torn my head off Philly, I mean Philly.

I was like, I'd be scared to do it in Philly, Boston, you know. But Atlanta. I was like, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Crazy? Thing? Is what year was it that Atlanta went to the Super Bowl with Chandler as the quarterback and the dirty Birds? Was it? What was that? That was the nineteen ninety eight season. I went to the playoff game where they beat the forty nine ers in San Francisco. Didn't they beat them? There were Jackie twelve thirteen year old Julian Edelman,

I was there were you rocking in Jersey? Uh? Nah? We didn't have like my parents didn't. We didn't spend money on jerseys and shit, I had to eat like bags and baseball bats and shit. You know it's nice. So like, well, we got Jackie. They're saying that game was at the Georgia Dome. At the Georgia Dome, did they play in the regular season? January ninth, nineteen ninety nine? Did they play in the regular season? The regular season? They did? Where they played in the Georgia Dome again?

Dang wait wait September twenty seventh at Candlestak Park beat the Giant or lost to the forty nine ers thirty one to twenty. What year? This was nineteen ninety eight, the year they won this? They went to the Super Bowl? Who they who beat them? In the Super Bowl? They they lost to the Vikings. No, no, no, they lost to the Broncos. Broncos. All right, this one's for John. Remember that was that? This? That was the second Lway you're right, or the first. I don't know the owner.

I just remember after John Lway won, is like first Super Bowl that the owner came on after collected this the Lombardi and he goes, this one's for John. That's what I remember. It could be Compuy no a Niner guy. I know, but in terms of respect, I mean, yeah, you respect the hell out of him. He was a monster California kid, went to Stanford. I'm from the area. But like I, I didn't like the Broncos and I still don't like the Broncos. Yeah. They beat my ass

in the AFC Championship twice. Yeah, in fact, I hate the Broncos. We always prayed if when we were going to those AFC Championships, for just a fucking snowstorm something crazy, because we're gonna be in Denver. It's gonna be cold. The altitude fucks you up. No, every time we go there, it's seventy five and Sonny like, what the fuck? We wanted the elements in our favor. Yeah, we're like a beer in Denver. You have a e three beers. You get fucked up from that altitude. Yeah, it'll get you. Yeah.

She's like on a plane. Yeah, but you're on the ground. Plane drunk is good, though. I don't really drink on the plane never. No, it's a good place. I know what I do do on the plane though, you vabe. No, I don't babe everyone. No. I like to snack. I'm a snacker, all right. Well, comforting snacks. What are you doing? Like, I'll go to all like pre pre flight, I'll go to the store. I'll grab like a sour candy, a chocolate candy, like a bag of chips, like a vitamin

water zero. We'll have to blank that out because they're not a sponsor. Uh. And then I always like try to be kind of like, oh, I feel guilty for getting and all that, and then I'll get like a trail mix you know, so then you even read the calories and a trail mixer, you'll think you're being healthy and I'm just like, I'm just picking out the M and M. This isn't good. No, this is unhealthy, terrible,

But uh, Jack, do we forget anything here? We cashed our prop bet ninety eight was, in fact John Elway's fifteenth season. Another stat correction, Danny is in fact better looking than Julia m s. Dealer's choice, it's Steeler's choice. And our last stat correction is we talked about Ernie Adams enjoying a tomato for lunch every day. It's pronounced heirloom, not hair loom. I wanted to say something about that, just clearing that up. Yeah, And then one last one, Jules,

can you define bro jo for us? The bro jo is like a dojo, you know, like where the karate kid and they like used to train and stuff. I don't know why you're asking him to define this. We all got it. The ojo is where a bunch of bros do a lot of activities. It's one of those I've heard about every bros suffix in the book, but brojo is new. I hadn't heard that until yesterday. Brojo is I mean that's you Stick around me, buddy, you'll get a lot of bros. It's like if Cobra Kai

were the good guys. That's the vibe. That's what it is. That's what No Cobra Kai. We're like straight, but you're more interesting then what's the good guys in that? Again? Danny his name was Danny, right, yeah, Daniel Danielson. But what they have a name for their dojo? What's it called? Right? Oh Miagi? Yeah, But they're that's the thing. They're a little more boring. Cobra Kai is cooler. But I literally so, I'm driving to San Francisco, yeah with my daughter to

go see our parents. We always I drive from La to San Francisco. I like driving, I don't know. We pull over and what are those trees called the Karate Kid tree? What are they? Jack? Is that a bond? Yeah, it's a Bonzei tree. Me and my daughter went, we saw these Bonzeie trees. Picked up a Bonzeie tree. I was trying to explain to her about karate Kids. She's five years old. She's like, Dad, this is just cold tree.

I'm like, well, you're gonna learn about this and we're gonna take very good care of this, and we're gonna nourish this plant, and it's gonna be something like in the Karate Kid. She looked at me and said, can we go get chicken nuggets? I said, all right, let's go. That is That's a tough one to explain it really not yet, You're like, hold on, next up Weekendo, Bernie's let me break it down for you. Revenge of the Nerds.

What do you think? Oh my god, dude, that's by the way, well the Karate Kid, I mean they just had a remake with Jaden Smith like ten years ago. Right, Yeah, it was actually pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Do you see it? I did not see it. I've watched Cobra Kai. Though I tried to watch it, I just

can't do it because they're too hung up on high school. Still, yeah, it's a little weird that forty eight year olds are like, remember that thing I said to you senior year and they're like, yeah, of course, and you're like, yeah, you don't. That's insane saying anyone that remembers that. Yeah, that's gotta be tough. That means they haven't really, they haven't grown.

They haven't grown. Yeah. It's also weird that Ralph Maccio has just like a super hot wife in that show and she's like, please fuck me, and he's like, I can I have a karate tournament. She's like, you're fifty three, dude, what do you please. It's like crazy, I'm watching the show, like, dude, fuck your wife. Oh yeah, you gotta gotta fuck that way. You don't movie, you lose it. That's what That's what

we say here. Well, twenty eight for three. That's the name of the game obviously, right we're calling it twenty eight to three. It's got I mean, what the comeback that Danny call it the Houston Blur? I mean, I don't think that's it. I don't twenty eight to three. Yeah, I think we gotta go with twenty eight to three. Let's score this bad boy. What's the rubric for this bad boy? Steaks? What's the super Bowl? What's the rubric? I go, I go stakes ten? It's a super Bowl.

I mean steaks are ten? Yeah? So star power is time time out. If steaks are ten here, I don't think they could be ten because the eighteen to one super Bowl should be a ten because that was an undefeated season. Gotcha, So we're going that's fair because that that's got to be the ultimate undefeated season. Star powers up there too, though, this is this is a lot of names. I mean you got you got hall of famers on both sides. I mean Juliobi, Hall of famers,

Tommy Don't we got Dolu Dola. We got a lot of defensive players like high Tower, A lot of names. What are we thinking? Like? Nine? Uh? I want to say, I mean it is Atlanta Falcons though you know so you're not You're not that. I don't think it's nine either. Falcons drag it down because the Pats these are huge names. Seattle't know. I what you gotta you gotta deal this one. I don't. I was in it, so i'ld go eight five just because the Falcons, like I think, I think

we're doing like a Pats versus Giant super Bowl. There's bigger names in that. That was a you know, this book was like Strayhan, you know, there was still Tuck. You know, I think I think the Giants had bigger names than the Falcons. And then we also look at some of your other super bowls, like the Seahawks had huge names. Yeah, yeah, that was I mean, we were defending super Bowl champions. You look at other you look at other Patriots super Bowls, and I just think you're

dealing with bigger names. No fly Zone, what was theirs? What was the Seattle Legion of boom See? I should know that, Like, what are we dealing gameplay? You gotta go high, I think, dude, gameplay. That's I mean, it was a hard, fat, hard fought battle in the beginning. Then, you know, I mean, if you're you're if you're a Falcons fan, you got to give this a one. If you're a Patriots fan, it's a ten. But it's like if you're the rest of America, you gotta go toward

the Patriots because it's an incredible super Bowl that. I mean it was. It was very biggest comeback in Super Bowl history. And it's like, low key one of the biggest comebacks. And nah, there was a couple thirty five os. Yeah, what do you think. I gotta go at least nine overtime in super Bowl history, first overtime in Super Bowl and five nine to five? Is that crazy? I go, I go nine. I think we're looking at a record here. Yeah, that's a record. You gotta give the name. I think, Yeah,

it's another high one. I mean, there's a high twenty eight to three. I've seen it, mean so many times in so many different ways, and so many different cities, and so many different worlds and so many different galaxies, planets names in eight names and eight names and eight What do we got there, Jackie? We're coming in an eight point seventy five. That's a high score. That's gonna be a high one. Eight seven five, that's if that's an eight seven five, man, what else is That's that's

the greatest comeback in sports. Let's you know, it was. It was a shocking game. It's that's that that goes to the integrity of the art of scoring these games with names, we can't. I don't care if I was involved in it. There's no I don't know if there will ever be a ten, Sam, do you. I don't think a ten can be hit. I don't think he can. Maybe by Julian on a dating app named Rayah, but other than that, I don't think it can be hit. Uh. Rian better be paying us for all this stuff that

we're giving that. Uh, that's all for this episode of games. You're supposed to even say that. I don't. It's supposed to be like hidden in it. Oh, I don't know. We're probably gonna be kicked off now. I'm sorry. I'm off Ryan. Now I could be seeing someone. Yeah, I don't know. Well, Uh, a ten by Julian in a bar. I saved that one. Well, this hasn't been Games with Names presented by win Bett. Thank you for our sponsors to the listeners. UH follow us on social media at

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