“2012 Pro Bowl” with Brandon Marshall | AFC vs. NFC

greatest games of all time. Today's episode twenty twelve Pro Bowl AFC versus NFC and our guest co host on Inside the NFL streaming on Paramount Plus. Of course, Brandon Marshall a dear friend of mine. You guys know them all from I am athlete to a six time Pro bowler to New York Jet, New York Jet. He talks

about the Jets all the time. And you know, we started developing this this podcast and Brandon's like, hey, you know, we gotta you know, I was like, we gotta have Yambie and He's like, yo, will you do my best game? And I said, well, what's your best game? And you know, I asked him, you know, if you clearly you didn't play in any playoff games now, so we had to scrape, naw scratch, and we found the twenty twelve Pro Bowl where Brandon Marshall had a hundred jack What do you have?

I think he had what is six? He had four? Four touchdowns. He scored almost as much as Julian on Riyah. This guy was on fire. Yeah, four touchdowns I believe one hundred and seventy six yards. Yeah, and I think eight catches seven catches. Amazing. There wasn't a lot of defense. Wasn't a lot of defense. But you know what, does the defense even really need to show up? Do we need a linemen? In the Pro Bowl? We can kind of just get the defensive backs and the wide receiver

seven on seven. Yeah, play with flags seven on seven. Now, we can't do that the Pro Bowl. Well, they're not tackling anyway. Yeah, at least they were kind of hitting this one. I mean it's gotten a lot worse over these last couple of years. Yeah, but my first reaction when I saw this game was man, d marsh turned it on in a game where no one really cared. Yeah, you're playing meaningful playoff football at this time. Yeah, this was twenty twelve. So you're about to lose to the

New York Giants. We were about to go to the Super Bowl and then lose the Super Bowl to the New York Giants and play in one in Indianapolis, and yes we lost. You you only made one Pro Bowl, but you should have made more. But you didn't tell you. I didn't make a Pro Bowls. You didn't go because I didn't go. We had to play in a Super Bowl. You got the money, right, they pay me. They gave me. You get either forty or sixty grand I got a jersey, but hot take everyone. Everyone wants to talk about it.

Never made a Pro Bowl. I got the jersey. Yeah, I got it. I got I got it. I got it. I didn't go because you were playing in the super Bowl. Yeah, we were playing in the super Bowl. So you can't. You can't go because they used to play it before and then they started going after and after you win a Super Bowl, you don't want to You don't want to go play in the Pro Bowl. No, be horrible. You want to go celebrate. Yeah, no, but on a

real thing, you know. B B. Marsh had an immaculate career, was in the Pro Bowl six times, which is a huge honor. And what if he had a great quarterback? How what was his career? Because that's when you're a wide receiver and you don't play with great quarterbacks, that's tough. You're you're a dependent player. You know, you depend on someone giving you the ball for your career to blossom.

Now you can. It's like if Daniel day Lewis only got to act with like Rob Schneider exactly, you'd be like, he's good, but I feel like he could be better without a doubt. Yeah, you know, like gangs in New York, Right, Leo, that's a little inside Joss, that's an inside joke. ASOV says, it's our buddy. ASAV says, it's Scor Sace's best movie of all time, of all time, which is a ludicrous take. It's a good movie. It is not Scor Sace's best movie. Who puts that over Goodfellas? Not me? Not me, not me.

But let's get our initial reactions to this game. It's a Pro Bowl. Yeah, it's tough to react to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I'd never watched. Highlights are fun. You get to see all these great players. Yeah, I mean, you definitely see so. Like the thing that stuck out to me was that crazy catch that Brandon had on the go route where the two guys collide on each other, he's on his back. It reminded me of the play in the Super Bowl. Malcolm Butler tipped that seamball. Guy

comes up. What's what was that guy's name? I forgot, but he goes out and catches the ball. Brandon had some really good plays playing hard, and that's the kind of guy Brandon is. So he he plays hard, regardless, competes hard and everything huge huge. Well we got Jackie that Jermaine curse when he had that big on the back catch in a Super Bowl, you know very much, Well,

does compare a lot to this Pro Bowl catch. So you know, I'm excited to have be on here and pick his brain about the ins and outs of the Pro Bowl because I've never been, Sam, Yeah, never been. You should have got I mean you you went and I didn't. I didn't go. You know, you had the ticket, he just didn't book the flight. When you'd rather be in the Super Bowl, of course, would you trade of course, would you trade one Super Bowl for like four Pro

Bowl appearances. What's the what's the value? Nah? You can't exactly ring, That's what I'm saying. Can't take away a ring? You know you don't play for the Pro Bowl and don't don't. Don't the fans vote for you? Don't know? Vans vote g in? And where's our fans in New England? Come on, guys, I need double clicks? Where was it? It was nowhere to be found? It was no better to be found. Let's go back. You can get a tweet from Casey Affleck or something. What the hell, Matt Damon.

That's a pretty big name, right doing Affleck. I'm over this. I'm over this is not Let's go back to January twenty ninth, twenty twelve. On this day, the number one movie in America was The Gray Revenge flick with Liam Neeson or in the Woods or something with a big wolf. I actually remember this one. This is I love Liam Neisson movies. Yeah, they're all exactly the same. You know what you're gonna get when you go watch them, but you're always entertained and satisfied when it's done. Yeah, at

least for me. You know, he's a classic Liam Neeson. We love him. Uh here, he's got a huge dong as well, does he Apparently? I have a friend's mom that dated him. Really yeah, I'm gonna have to ask her, asker, I will I text her right now. How big is Liam's pianis? He's uh yeah, he's great. Great, It's crazy. He's still just belting out action movies. He's gonna be on a walker soon. The Gray is named after his pubes in this movie, which he's really getting old, but

he's still kicking ass and we love him. Number one song in America, We Found Love. We Found this was I love that song. Great song. It brings me back to some love that I had that time. Yeah, a little bit hopeless. I think it was we, but it was you know, we we we found it. Yeah, and then this song came out and then we broke up. So Rihanna, Oh she's so cool. Jeggings. Those were Jane leggings. Yeah, what the what the hell? Yeah? I think Ninkovitch once again.

I'm gonna go back to Ninkovic's wardrobe. I talked about it in one of our episodes. I saw him wearing some jeggings once and he said that's how I wear them, And I was like, absolutely not. He needs to he needs to go back to lumberjack wearings. Here sketcher shape ups. Remember that everyone thought they were gonna get a butt because of the round curve of the soul of the sketcher. I don't remember at all. Yeah I do, I was. I've been in that world. I think Brady used to

wear some things like that. It wasn't a sketcher one, but it was like this, like a Kangaroo brand and like these moon shoes. I don't know. People people put anything on their feet these days to feel like they're they're doing something good for their body. F Dora's never rocked a for door. I can't put for door. It's too much of a fashion risk. I think I wore one at the Kentucky derby once, but that's where you wear one. Yeah, I went. I went to a race

and Kentucky and I did. I was at the Keenes Race track and I was the only person there that didn't look like a villain and Django unschained. Yeah, they really. They dressed to the nines. They dressed to the nines of the South, for sure, very much so. This time in sports. Djokovic beats Nadal in the Australian Open. This was this was Charlie Sheen's winning year. Why why do you say that? Because this was the year Charlie Sheen

started the winning when he was like, I'm winning. He left two and a half Men twenty twelve, I'm winning. Turned out he had HIV. So if your friends are really positive, check on. Like I was talking to friend the other day and he told me he was crushing life and I was like, you poor bastards. It is true. Anytime things are going too well, there's always something that that was. That was Charlie Sheen at the I mean

Charlie Sheen, that guy, epic career two and a half Men. Yeah, but he's had a couple, he's had a couple downfalls. He'll always come back. He always comes back. Oh dude, Spin the City was classic hot shots, hot major tune. Yeah, Like, we love Charlie, Love Charlie. What about what is Charlie Sheen on this show? Charlie? What was? Come on, dude, we love you. Money Talks with Chris Tucker. That's a great that's a great movie. Chris Tucker. I ran the

nineties I miss him. Yeah, it's hard where you can go? Went he went kind of rush hour money talks on Friday. I mean those were like he like left for a while. I think he was born again or something. It's some some religious stuff. Hey, more power to you, more power, well, less powered to us. We don't get to see your movies. I know. Sorry, Chris. I'm sure you're doing great. End of the Iraq War twenty eleven, and that's good. Kim

Jong Hill dies twenty eleven. Kadafi's killed. Bad time for dictators. Look at that, dictators are dropping. The ladies gone. Wow, Yolo, you only live once. Yeah, that was the Drake thing, right, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I said it a few times. Yeah, you gotta say Yola. Actually, I had a friend that got a tattooed in their lip. Really yeah, damn. I don't know what she was thinking. That's not a good that's not a good move. Nah. But it goes away when you get the tattoo in the lip. Oh really,

it goes away in like six years or something. Oh supposedly. Yeah. Oh that's smarter then. Yeah, that's where you do it. That's where you do it. You could get buried. Then yeah, oh wow, you're back in the Jewish cemetery. Hey man, Hey, So what were we doing on this day? This was twenty twelve. What were you doing, Sam? I was, I looked it up. I was. I think I was just started working the Comedy Seller in New York City, which

was was a big deal for me. I was. I was playing a club called Magoobi's Joke House and Timonium, Maryland when you Love God, God loves your back, guys. And I do remember that gig actually because terrible story, but also kinda I remember the uh. I was opening for a great comic name Gary Goleman, who's you know, many specials. Get a great HBO special called the Great Depressed, Big Patriots Fan by the way, And I remember opening for him at the time, and the guy who ran

the club, it's horrible as his father passed away. So he gets on the mic to start the show and he goes, h, you know, he's a wreck because of his dad. He's calling from the back and the god mic going, uh, all right, you guys ready to start the show. Rowdy Baltimore crowd, guys, quiet down, They keep going ah. He's like guys, please, he goes, shut up, Shut the fuck up, and then everyone's on comfort goes, sorry, my dad died coming to the stage. That's how the

show started. And you had to follow that. Yeah, how'd you do? Not? Well, it was a good weekend. Yeah, anytime you get tragedy and you gotta be funny, crazy, crazy, But we pulled it out. I've been back since. It's a good club. And and you were getting ready to play in the super Bowl. Well I didn't technically play this one. Yeah, he neither did your whole team. The Giants just destroyed you. They didn't destroy us, it was close,

but they destroyed your your spirit spirit completely ship on. Yeah, Mario Manningham, dude, sideline that was beautiful, was right there. Brandon Jacobs just a huge loved him, dude, and then Jpp. We always had a crazy defensive line man, Yeah, dude, the Giants d was that was like there? It was Spags, right, who's theirs? Yeah? All Spags always had the He had this saying that you know, I think what was on the edge crush crash crush chase. So those defensive ends

are always coming off that edge. So was ut no it let's get into these teams. Twenty twelve NFC Pro Bowl team. The coach Mike McCarthy. Hmmm, Packers, Packers at the time, he did win a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers in two thousand and nine. Feeling a little heat these days over in cowboy Land. Oh yeah, that's a tough job, that is. That's got to be very tough. I know, much pressure, but it's like, you guys, it's been a while. Cowboys have that that pressure where they're like,

we're the Cowboys. Yeah, but it's been it's been a long time. Yeah, it's been since Aikman and Emmett. I don't know politics, but this is what I think it's like. Is it kind of like QAnon? Well, no, he's the he's the president. Yeah, but the president really is just a puppet to other people, and that's really Jerry. Yeah, you know, like because Jerry really runs the shots there. Like if you're a head coach in Cowboyland, yeah, like

you're not calling shots. Jerry's gonna get on that phone and just say, hey, buddy, we're doing this and you can't say a word about it because that's Jerry. Yeah. Is that any did that happen if they need to do more cocaine. That seemed to be the secret of the success in the nineties. Bring back cocaine, Bring back to the Cowboys, Yeah, bring it back. Michael Irvin in there as a as a special coke game. Coach good Man,

Oh my god. Energy, phenomenal, high energy. I think we know why nine players from the forty nine ers, my childhood team. They I thought we were actually gonna play them because we won the AFC Championship and we after the game, he so QB in twenty twelve, Cap that was Caps Cap, Alex Smith went out, Cap came in. Hero. Smith had those tiny hands. Never trust a quarterback with small hands, Yeah, unless he's sending you a picture of his penis, because then the penis looks huge next to

the little hands. But that's why you can't trust them. You can't trust them. Eli didn't play in this game, but he was voted. Yeah, he was voted A replaced by He's also voted Super Bowl MVP. Thank you Sam for reminding me once again. Cam Newton was a rookie that took his place on the Pro Bowl team. Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Jimmy Graham, Clay Matthews Matthews another great football family, charl Woodson. Charles Woodson man, he played for years. These

are names. I mean, it's Pro Bowl. Yeah, AFC. They had Gary Kubi Kubi from the Texans. That's you remember remember that year they came. I think we played them in the playoffs. That they were good that year. Yeah, they came and tried to play us in the whole team, warned Letterman Jackets before the game, and like, this is the National Football League. Yeah, dude, get that shit out of here. We sat here and we saw them coming in on Leo Jackets. You just done them, That's all

it was. I couldn't understand it. Yeah, I couldn't understand. Go where you fucked them up. Nine players from the Patriots were there. None played because of the Super Bowl. Brady didn't play because he was replaced by Andy Dalton, another road rookie. Wow. Notable names Big Ben Rivers, Ray Lewis, Durel Reeves, Von Miller, a lot. I mean, these are this You're right, this is the Pro Bowl. These are legends man. The game twenty twelve, Pro Bowl, thirty six

first time Pro Bowlers. Wow. And I couldn't have been one of them. Hmm, too bad. Some bullshit things we remembered. Would you would you have rather played in the Pro Bowl, know wing you lost the Super Bowl? Or would you rather have gone to the Super Bowl and like that builds character and stuff? Or you still got to go to the Super Bowl. It's a fun experience. Family gets to have a good I mean, your family probably has

a great time in Hawaii too, I wouldn't know. But the things we remember, I mean, Brandon Marshall had a record setting performance, record setting. We also remember that it is the Pro Bowl and defense is optional, as it was shown. As we said, Patriots and Niners leat the league with nine Pro bowlers each. No penalty for the celebration. That was back when celebrating was illegal. What a dumb

rule that was. Players are literally getting CTE and the front offices in the NFL are like no dancing, can you? What a bunch of assholes. It's no fun league. They've gotten better, they've gotten better. Yea, the league has gotten better, gotten better, But this was crazy. Yeah, they remember, dare they not let them celebrate? Remember they scored the bobb and weave by the Rams back in the day. Yeah, the Dirty Bird by the Falcons. I always think of

the beginning of basketball when you remember that. You ever see basketball with it's like the long choreographed dance. You're like, oh, I want to see that in the NFL, just once. It's just everyone just doing like river dance A little bitch. Yeah, squeak a little bitch. Basketball is an underrated sports classic. Yeah. Those guys are geniuses. And David Zucker wrote it from Airplane and she and they are Matt Stone and Trey Parker. We love geniuses. Something we may not have known. Pro

Bowl has vastly different rules than in season games. Some examples, can't use a thirty four defense. You have to use a forty three. There's no blit scene. I believe you have to. I think you have to play zone. I don't think you can play man intentional grounds to point the blitzing and they're not playing you know, I don't know. I mean back in the All Star Games, back in like the seventies, Pete Rose took out a catcher and ended his career trying to avoid that. I guess we are.

It is something that will always remember. Pete Rose also ended his own career by gambling on his team. But gambling is cool. Win bet, win bet. Then one crazy rule more than one four pass thrown in the same plays allowed. I didn't get that. What does that even mean? Jack? Let me get a number crunch on that. Roger Goodell, speaking a week after the game, said, this is the kind of football we want to be demonstrating our fans, and you heard it from the fans. The fans were

actively booing in the stands. We're going to have to improve the quality of what we're doing in the Pro Bowl to consider other changes or even consider eliminating the game if that's the kind of quality game we're going to provide. I mean, yeah, it's it's an awesome performance for Vrandon Marshall, but I think fans want to see why have the game if there's not going to be defense. Defense is such a part of football. Yeah, I don't know.

It's it's a tradition. I'll give you that. I actually like all like the All Star things when they're doing the throw comps, when they used to have the fastest man they'd have. I love that's my favorite obstacle, Drew. My favorite part of NBA All Star Weekend was never the game, it was like the three point content. The dunk not anymore. The dumb contest has falling off, but three point contest is still Yeah. Can we get the dunk on the first dunk? I hate it? You should

only get one dunk? How many? How many chances are we going to give them? I don't know, Jesus, but you get as many chances to dunk as a woman will give Chris Brown apparently. And let's go to the segment, the gaming Corner presented by win Bet some of the relevant betting lines of this game. How much of a gambling problem do you have to have to bet on the Pro Bowl? It's jack? Did you have you ever bet it on a Pro Bowl? I've only done over unders.

I will never take a side. I'm a full transparency respect. The spread was NFC minus four. That's probably because we had nine Patriots in the Super Bowl that game. Wow, they lost that one over and under. They were busy losing a much more significant game. Yes, they were so Samuel over and the mom says, when she's mad at me too, she goes Samuel over and under was seventy two. What was the final score of this I think that went over. Wow, fifty nine to forty one. Yeah, see, yeah,

it's tough, but I'm excited to hear. I want to hear the inside stories from from Brandon about this. So many stars in one place, that's kind of to me. The cool thing about the males, that's what that's what'll be the huge thing. But let's get back to our

prop bed. Each week, every week during the interview, we come up with something that we have to either say a certain amount of times, have our interviewee say a certain amount of times, or flub someone up with certain amount of something where we got to come up with that prop bet. What do you well? I think I think we got a good one for both of us this week. For you, how many times can you mention that you played in the super Bowl that year? How

many times can you mention that during the interview? Do you think? I mean, I don't want to be an asshole, but I'll go three? Three, al right, three, I'm gonna so. And then for me it's how many times can I say Aloha because of Hawaii? All right? I think I could pull it off four times? You have to because after a good play you'd be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna hit four on lo, I'm gonna hit three. We'll see. I'm taking the over on both. Actually, I'm gonna take

the over on yours. So you're gonna have to say five. Okay, I could do. I'm gonna have to say it four. Well, Aloha means hello and goodbye. I can say it twice there. I'm strategizing here. It's like shalom. It is like shalom, a hello and a goodbye. All right, Well, we're gonna hear from Brandon Marshall right after this. But before that, let's take a quick break and we are joined here with my brother from another mother, six foot five, two

hundred and twenty pounds. Listen, Yeah, in shape, in shape, shamee looking like a tight end. This guy right here who's coming onto our podcast. Brandon Marshall had a thirteen year career. Yeah, he had nine hundred and seventy receptions, nine to seventy twelve thousand, three hundred and seventy one receiving yards. The craziest thing is he had eighty three touchdowns insane and eighty three touchdowns coupwall pro six time pro bowler. That's why we were actually talking to him.

Because we were going to discuss that MVP performance at the Aloha Honolulu Pro Bowl. Oh wow, that's what we're here to talk about. This is the game with the name baby, this is the game that we're talking about. You chose this one. This is a shocker. You know how many Super Bowls I played? Him? You're going to pick the Pro Bowl game over the Super Bowl games? Well, Brandon, you know I didn't. You know, it's tough to how many playoff games and Super Bowls did you play in?

Let me google it? Hold on, Nah, this guy right here, my guy right here. He's going to be a future Hall of Famer. He was a beast. I saw him first hand demolish my team in two thousand and nine. I think he had like thirteen fifteen catches, two touchdowns on Lee Boden I think was it Lee Boden Man. I don't even know, Bro, you don't need to see.

That's how good he is. He doesn't even know. But we're joined here with Brandon Marshall to talk about that twenty twelve Pro Bowl where you just went absolutely bananas in the game. What is Pro Bowl Week? Like? I've never been to a Pro Bowl. I was never that good. You know, I don't know anything about it. What's the Pro Bowl week? Like, well, first before we jump into this Pro Bowl game, Like, tell me about this? What is this? Games with names? And this set? Like where

are you guys in? You got win Bet back there. They gave y'all a sake. It was definitely presented by win Bet. This is games with names. We take. We take the hottest games, important games with big names, games that you can name, I mean the names of the people in the games, and the games have names. Yo, this is so dope, Like is this like a set of bar Like where are you guys? We are in Chinatown? We're in Chinatown in New York. Yeah, wow, dope, this is super dope. I love it. Look anyway, so we're

gonna pick this. Uh, I'm still disappointed that you chose this Pro Bowl game and so it was a dope game. We're going to get into it. I have a lot to discuss, but we we could have chosen you know, all those playoff games and and and those a couple of Super Bowl and played Brandon, Yeah, you didn't play in a playoff game. Really, See, this is this is the ship we talk about. You know, like we get a lot of hit it's the head. You forget a lot of things. Damn. He doesn't understand the football thing

like you. He said he had nine hundred and fucking seventy catches, and you know it is taking a big guy. He can't even remember. He never played in the fucking playoff game. He remember? Talk about you talk about games with names. Let's at least that's what we should be talking about, all them damn games I didn't play in. That's what I'm That's what I'm upset about. Now. This is a this is an hour game now, one hundred and seventy games and eighty three touchdowns. I never played

in a playoff game, Jay, Ever, that's a problem. I never played in the Pro Bowl. That's why this is like a really interesting one to me because I just I'm interesting. I don't know what goes on there. What goes on? Brandon? How many Pro Bowls would you trade

for a Super Bowl appearance? Six time Pro bowler? So so, six time Pro Bowler, pro I'll be honest with you now, you now you enter enter in to the debate of would you rather take, you know, a Hall of Fame career or a Super Bowl, right, And I'll be honest, right, I think at the end of the day, when you walk away from the game, the most important thing, it's the relationship with the guys. Right, Like Jewles, we never played together and we never were teammates, but he was

my all time favorite wide receiver in the game. One of my top five players that I've ever played against or to me. You know, when I look back at the thirteen years I played in league, I look at like dudes that I love. Jewles is top five for sure. And I told him that back in two thousand and like eleven, in twenty twelve, I walked up to him, asked him for his jersey. Jewles was nobody at the

time I did this. Jewles was nobody for real, right, And I just saw this dude playing punt return, kick return, playing defense, playing wide receiver. He had this damn this the tenacity about him. Right, that's right. But look at the bond we've been able to make an established since that moment and now being you know, teammates on inside the NFL. So the relationship is the most important part. Now it's it's over. You know, I'm thirty eight. Jules is what how are you thirty six or thirty seven.

I'll be thirty six here soon. So he's thirty five. Jules is young. Bro, Like, I got my body. I feel good. Jewles don't think I got my mind. I still got my mind. And then also I'm able to take care of my family. So I if I'm being honest, I'm going to take the career over the super Bowl because you know, I think that I was in position to take care of my mom and my brothers and my sisters, you know, take care of myself, create generational wealth.

It's extremely tough as a competitor, you know what I'm saying, because you know, I'm the only one that sit around Jewels and those guys in there and they're like, ah, you never made that playoff. You never read a playoffs. I have to eat that for the rest of my life. But at least I'm eating that with you know, Lobster and State Baby. But he never went to the playoffs. But you did win an MVP at the Pro Bowl, which is impressive. Brandon. This is impression. Four tugs, four

tugs in a game that no one tries in. I mean, like, this is insane. So here's the deal. Let me tell you about the Pro Bowl, Jewels, the Pro Bowls dope because you know, I just remember every year sending around, you know, right around week ten or so, you see all the fan votes coming in and then you start seeing, you know, hearing the chatter you know, if you made it or not, if you're alternate. And I think guys enjoyed that moment because it's really again getting that respect

from your peers, those relationships around the league. People you have coaches, defensive coordinators, have other players saying this guy is good. And I think that's the ultimate sign of respect, is when you get those type of nods in any sport from your peers. Right. So that's what's cool about the Pro Bowl. What else is cool about the Pro The Pro Bowl? Excuse me? What else is cool about the Pro Bowl? The first Pro Bowl or two, you get an opportunity to you know, show your appreciation to

the people that help you get there. Right, That's that's the coolest thing about it, right. I meanber my first Pro Bowl, I brought thirty people out there. You know, I took the money that I made from the Pro Bowl and I said, invest that in bringing the people out that helped me get there. My college wide receiver, coach, my little league you know, mentor and coach and trainer throughout high school. You know my mom and dad, you know, my couple of my teammates, a couple of my coaches.

And the first night we were there, we went to dinner and I went around the table and I just told everybody, I said thank you, because if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be right here, literally right here in Hawaii. So that's the coolest part. And then also it's extremely cool is being at that hotel and it's just the private hotel where you have all of these legends sitting pool side, drinking my ties, eating chicken wings and all the banter is unbelievable. Peyton Manning, that's when

I fell in love with Peyton Manning. You know, Peyton Manning is that guy. As far as Pro Bowl, he runs everything. And there's no NFL or no, you know, there's no Players Association running anything. It is Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning goes out there, he's running the meetings, he's he goes up there, does an hour skit. It's unbelievable. He's doing characters say that again. Peyton's doing like characters by the pool. So the first night you get there,

the first night you get there, everybody comes together. So you have the AFC in the NFC. Back in the day, it was the AFC NFC coming together. Now it's mixed, and I had an opportunity to do both formats in the Pro Bowl. So now you have everybody there and Ray Lewis is sitting over here. You know, you have all these other quarterbacks excluding Tom Brady. I don't know why the hell is it tom Brady go to Pro bowls? Bro Is he is he better than everybody? What he's

usually playing in the Super Bowl. You don't go to you don't go to the Pro Bowl if you're playing Super Bowls, Brandon, you know it's there was a couple went to ten. He's been to ten. Hey, there was a couple of years. You're just there's a couple of years where you guys didn't make a Super Bowl and he opted out of going to a Pro Bowl. But anyways, all these quarterbacks are there, excluding Tom Brady because he thinks he's better than everybody. Now, I love Tom Brady,

He's to go, but and he goes around. He just makes fun of everyone, man, and it's pretty cool. He makes the fun. He makes fun of the commissioner, he makes fun of Ray Lewis, he makes fun of you know, Brett Favre, and that really sense. He makes fun of you. Well,

I didn't have a big enough name. My all time Peyton Manning story at the Pro Bowl is this, and this is the reason why I went so hard in the game that you want to talk about today, my very first Pro Bowl playing two thousand, I want to say it's two thousand, two thousand, two thousand and eight. My first year was a rookie, had around with thirty catches that was trashed. My second year, I should have made the Pro Bowl. But then they put Ocho Cinco

in a hitting me. You know, they always make you wait a year, right, So I had like thirteen hundred yards. Oulto had like nine hundred something yards, but he had the bigger name, so they put Ocho in. My third year, I get it done. We get there. It's Jay Cutler's first year. We are number two in offense, number one

in office the entire year, number two in offense. You know, at the end, because Drew Brees the very last game, through this last play the game did something crazy and they end up beating us by a couple of yards or whatever. So we're we're young, we're crushing it. We get the Pro Bowl, nod together? How do you get the Pro Bowl? Do you? How do they tell you

made it? So it's it's like this on you know, you're watching ESPN, right and and they literally go they go through this little you know program, this little broadcast where it's like at the wide receiver position, now you have Reggie Wayne and you have uh, Antonio Gates at tight end and blah blah blah blah blah. So you're watching it. But what happens is when you get a

little older, the teams will come to you. So you'll have you know, like a Patrick Smyth, who's head of PR for the Denver Buncles, walk up to you and be like, hey, b you made it. Well yeah right, So so that's how you know. But this first Pro Bowl, I'm out there and uh, you have Peyton Manning. You know it's Peyton Manning. Bro I'm sitting in there. You're sitting in there with Peyton Manning. You're sitting there with Ray Lewis. I mean, what other legends did we have

back then? You have Troy Paul Lamarlu, you have freaking d Reid Pelisberger. Roethlisberger didn't make it that year. I don't think he did, know. I think he threw you a touchdown the first Pro Bowl. Bro, we're sitting. We're not at the games with names. Bro, you know you made so many I lose count. Yeah, we're not at the games, hard bro. So anyways, I go out there and I'm out of shape, right, I'm probably I'm not too twenty, Like Jewel said earlier in the show, I'm

actually like two. That's the first time in my career that like my metabolism changed, and you know, eating chicken and McDonald's every day, you know, start really affecting me, right, like before I can eat. By the way, that's that's terrible for you. Well, no supersized me. It's holerible for you. Yeah no, bro. But here's the thing. I made the Pro Bowl off of that diet. Okay, that's that's incredible.

That's that's the documentary. Every day every day after practice because I was single, and I would go home stop right there at the McDonald's. I'll get two spicy chickens sandwiches in a triple thick chocolate milkshake. Oh so we got that boom and so what you're season is that McDonald's. You said, that's yeah, that's McDonald's triple thick chocolate milk shiit. You never had one broke, no, but you get the

spicy chicken there. Yeah, the spicy chicken was awesome. You never had the spicy on the lettuce, just male lettuce, right, you know, look, he knows, he knowsny spicy chicken. I didn't know that was a McDonald Wendy's got a great chick spicy chicken. Come on, let's get to the games with names. Come on, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all long, Oh my goodness. So anyways, look, I'm out of shape basically. You know that off season, I took a month off. You know, you have this month off before the Pro Bowl.

It's the Pro Bowl, like with Jewels said, nobody's really playing out there. So I'm chilling, and uh, I'm balloon up to like two forty two or whatnot. I couldn't move And then so I go out there, Jewels and we had this little dart route. So a dark route is not a slant. The slam is like take three steps and then w across the middle one step. A dart is one step and then you come to the middle and he's going to at you and you can

make big gains off of that. So Peyton Manny loved these dart routes when you get down in the red zone. So I'm out there with Peyton Manning and in my head, I'm like, yo, this is a this is a picture. This is a picture moment, a photo moment. So I need to go out there. I want to score this touchdown. I'm gonna be able to tell my kids that Peyton Manning threw Brandon Marshall a touchdown. So we're out there.

We had this amazing drive. I didn't contribute to the drive, by the way, but I'm out there in the red zone. They put the big boy in so he audibles. He throws the one yard dark, the one step dark, and I dropped it. Bro When I tell you, Peyton Manning gave me the death stare. Bro Like, it shook and shook my whole Pro Bowl approach and experience. Man Like, he looked at me, and I was like, holy shit,

this is real, right, because Peyton Manning like that. There was other cats out there not really playing Peyton Manning. When he came out there, he wanted to win. You talk about the ultimate competitor. So he stared at me from that from the one yard line all the way to the sideline bro in the Bro Bowl, like I will never throw you the ball again, that type of look.

I get to the sideline, Jay Cutler sits next to me, I got my head down young right, and he's like, holy shit, you just pissed off Peyton Manning's ball again. So anyways, to did Peyton Manning? Was? He probably the reason why you didn't go to the playoffs. He probably told all the playoff contending teams do not have this guy on your team. He might drop a dart route. Is it Peyton Manning's fault you didn't go to the playoffs? No? No, yes, not because of that, but because we were playing actually

really good teams. You guys, man, look at y'all schedule. Look at the Patriots schedule. I didn't play. There was some of those those runs y'all went on. Yeah, Brandon, do you know how the schedule is made. I know, I'm just messing around. So the schedule is made. If you are the number one team in your division, you play all the other number one division teams, so you're playing all the first play teams, and then you play a different I don't know. I'm just explaining this. It's no,

it's not. That's not how it's done. Did you ever do you ever talk about this moment with Paydon later? I have not spoken to Peyton about this. I saw them a couple of months ago snowboarding and we had a beer together up in Vail, Colorado. His hit is so big. He had this big ass helmet on. How much would be if you tossed you a beer and you dropped it? And he was just like, never again, dude,

never again. Hey, listen, listen you one thing. One of the things that we have to understand about these ultimate competitors. I would put jewels in there, Julian Edelman as an ultimate competitor, you know. But like talking about some of these goats when at the quarterback position, whether it's Tom Brady is Peyton Manning, they remember everything right, like whether it's in practice, you know, because they're not getting as hard as you guys are. Listen, don't let these football

players give you an excuse. Some of them just need to sit down to get some help and talk to somebody. But but but look, no, they're not getting hit as hard as we are. By the end of the day, they remember everything. So I'm sure Peyton Manning remembers that if I would have dropped that beer. I'm sure would it came up. If you throw me a beer, you know, after skiing snowboarding and I drop it, I'm sure it will come up in discussion. But that's the reason why.

That moment is the reason why I started training after I got knocked out of the regular season. Tough season, so I had a month to train, right while I was watching Jewels catch touchdowns and become the greatest wide receiver in playoff history. You know, I'm out there watching and then I'm like, oh shit, let me go get a run in because I got the Pro Bowl, right, So that was the reason why. So now you fast forward to this moment. I think I was playing for

the Miami Dolphins. What year was that Jewel twenty twelve? Twenty twelve, so twenty twelve, and what ended up happening is you know, you know, I think a lot of guys that really want it. They're searching for something great, right, searching for legacy, their searching for their names to be sketched somewhere in football history or basketball history. And for me, you know it is it is tough. If I'm being honest, I I'm learning to live with not making the playoffs.

I'm learning to live with never ever competing in a Super Bowl. As an athlete, as a competitor, all you want is a chance. That's all I ever wanted was a chance to get there. So for me, it's like, Okay, who am I as an individual? I want to be one of the greatest wide receivers, right when we talk about you know, me in my place as a selfish player. But as a team, what do I want to accomplish? I would love, you know, some of my team goals was,

of course super Bowl, multiple super Bowls, right. And then also I looked at these quarterback wide receiver duos. I wanted to be, you know, the next Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison. Like I studied them, right, I look at their stats. I have this beautiful picture of Jay Cutler and after our first touchdown and our heads are together, and I said, okay, now we have one hundred and one hundred and twenty more. And basically before that game

or very first touchdown, I walked up to him. I said, Yo, let's go crush Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison what they've been able to do as a dynamic duo. Right playing against Seattle. I think it was like Sunday night football, Monday night football, seventy seven yard touchdown, boom, come together in the end zone and we shared this moment. It's this beautiful picture and it's a beautiful painting. So anyways, I walk into the stadium that year, all right, I'm

in Hawaii and knocked out of the playoffs again. Aloha Stadium. Oh my goodness, Loha Stadium. A lot of greats was there. And another cool story is actually was the MVP of the Hula Bowl my senior year in college. Yeah, so it's like Hawaii has always been a special playing eleven passes, three touchdowns at Alhas Stadium, Love Stadium, You did your work? Yes, what are you talking about? I just I just that just kept popped up in my head. You didn't remember

that you didn't remember that. I remember Hubble, keep going, keep going for interruption. So I walk into the stadium pre game. I don't I mean, I didn't even walk in the locker room yet. And I look up and they have all these other MVPs up there. So if you actually do a quick search, maybe Jay right now or someone out there. I know, Sam might be somewhere behind the screen all the MVPs of the Pro Bowl. But I look up and you see Jerry Rice. I think you may have seen Chris Carter, you know, maybe

at John Elway or something. I'm like, oh my goodness, those are legends. I said, I want that. So I walked in, I saw that, and I you know, went through that month of training because I didn't want Peyton Manning or whoever to look at me like that again. And I went up to Coach Koobs, who was our head coach. Coach Kobs at the time was uh at the Houston Texans and their coaching staff, you know, were coaches for the Pro Bowl. I said, hey, Coach Coobs, you know I'm going to go get MVP. He said, okay,

I got you. And so what we were doing is I go out there. He's like, hey B, you want to come run this double route. It's like, yeah, no problem. Hey B, you want this go route, Yep, no problem. Hey B, you want this favor oute, Yep, no problem. And it was just a magical moment. You know. Even there was one catch. If you look at it, it was like tip three four times, I'm laying on the ground, I kick it up. It was like it was like a poor man's Julian Edelman Super Bowl pitch right, like,

but it was dope right. It was one of those moments like how the hell did that happen? As magical and so it was pretty cool. But the biggest takeaway from that is like when you lock in, when you say I'm gonna do something right, you have a better chance of doing it right. Like if you say it, you write it down, you believe it, you have a good chance of doing it. And it's all about mindset. It's all about you know, how you approach things. You got to be positive, you know, the same thing like

Jewels talked about. You know, there's been a couple of games where I had ten catches, fifteen catches, eighteen catch, twenty one catches. This game, ever, you know, not well this is the greatest game ever because we're on games with names, but a legendary game playing against the Coast, I had twenty one catches and I go out there right before the game, I walk up to Michael Smith, who was on ESPN at the time. I'm like, hey,

now he's that paramount. Plus I'm like, uh, I'm like, hey, Mike, I'm letting you know right now that this is gonna be the best game that I've ever played. And then I go out there and have twenty one catches. So I say that. To say this, it's like you should have said that every week. Damn, You're right. That would have been crazy. Dang, I might have one catches a game. I might have been in the super Bowl if I sit it every week. Dude, I just figured out you

could be like Jesus, whatever you think happens. Wow, you know what I want to be right there sitting next to you. Guys, I'm going to zoom in the zoom. I don't know if you can. Then you steal all our thunder with that cool hat. Oh so you don't want me to do art, I'll stay right here. Then you wrong? You do you remember who threw the the touchdowns in the Pro Bowl. You had three of them. Do you remember who you? Andy Dalton? Yeah? You have

you are you are? You guys are cheating, said Ben Roethlisberger. And uh damn the other quarterback? So Andy Dalton, Ben Roethlisberger, and then you had was it? Was it Philip Rivers? Oh? Three p it was Philip Rivers. It was Philip Rivers. Wow wow, Yeah, that's well. Who is the baddest dude there that you when you was it that? That's not a quarterback? Who is like a guy there? That was like, that's a guy as far as ballplayer swag, how he held himself? Who was the guy that you're like, yeah,

he's here, he's him, He's definitely him. I mean it would have been Tom Brady if he showed up and didn't think that he was better than all of us. But since he didn't show up, I would have to go with I mean, Peyton Manning. I said, no quarterback, Brandon, no quarter athletically like team got another guy. Know, I barely listen, you know, I barely listen. Look ray Lewis, ray Lewis, ray Lewis one of our teammates right inside the NFL. Hey, there's so many guys out there. I mean,

you're out there with the legends. I mean Adrian Peterson, You're out there with Darel Reeves, You're out there with you know, Troy Paula Malu was cool, didn't say anything. You know. Ed Reid was super cool. You know, Bob Sanders, some of those guys you don't even remember. You know, all of the wide receivers. That's the cool part too.

As a wide receiver. Now you're you're out there and you're seeing Reggie Wayne, You're seeing you know, o Cho Senko, You're seeing Terrell Owens and all those guys and how they approach things. But if I had to pick one, guy would say, it's ray Lewis. Ray Lewis, I I I understand why they won. He won two Super Bowls.

I understand why he's ray Lewis. That same year that first Super Bowl, like guys don't really want to play, right, ray Lewis comes in the locker room right before the game that first Pro Bowl and he has his pass flipped up. He has like his little turf shoes on noe cleats, So we're thinking he's going to actually pull his past his jersey down, put his cleats on later, and come join the join the guys. So we've got Jay Cutler and not standing around, and he brings everybody

up and it's the Pro Bowl. We're like, bro, we're just gonna go out there and just run through, you know, go through the motions. He's like, we're not doing this. And he gave us this passionate, this unbelievable uh speech, and it's like it's the Pro Bowl, but he he made all of us, you know, feel like we can run through the wall. Jay and I looked at each as like, holy ship, let's go play football. Right. We're like at the Pro Bowl, right, And rabel Lewis never

end up playing. He did that because he wanted all of us young boys to go out there and uh win the game so they can get you know, extra twenty thousand dollars. So the loser at that time got forty thousand, the winner got sixty thousand. So Ray loosed

thirty seven people out there. You want to win this, yeah, but but but look at the end of the day, you know, look, the forty thousand would have covered that, right, Like the forty thousand budgeted for the loss like the forty thousand when to cover that was going out there have a good time. It wasn't even about the game. But that's what made ray Lewis so special. It was

like He's like, no, I needed that extra twenty. So what he did is he tapped into that ray Lewis coming out and the raw raw speeches and all that. Did he do award dance? Oh? Absolutely? He did the word absolutely percent. You get mine my hair? Right? Man? How's my hair? Put my hat back on? Can y'all see me where you guys at? You guys are frozen? Kids were frozen. Yeah yeah, but we're still recording. Hey,

you got to you gotta battle through the elements. We play hurt over here, baby, any fun like Nighttime Stories? Was anyone like acting a fool out there? Anyone hammered or anything like that? Absolutely? I mean you had guys like showing up drunk to the practices. I was one of those guys. Man, Like every time I went over, I had my lady with me, so I wasn't out

and about like that. And in the reality the night the night life over there during that time, it wasn't cool Like I went out one time with my family and it was so lame and boring, which said a lot about the guys that was going. I was like, man, you guys are so desperate. You're going to these bars, these clubs. Are you kidding me? But yeah, you had guys, I mean half the team coming to those practices smelling like liquor and drunk. I mean they had a good time,

and that's what it was about. I love it. Well, so you you go off any Herk's coming from being selected MVP in this game. Oh yeah, I still have the car Ooh yeah car. Well you got a car. It's a Tahoe. Yeah, we got a tahoe, you know, and I gave it to my mom. You know, it was awesome at the time, right because I think I was still in my first contract. You had an MVP of the Pro Bowl back then, got a car? Now, do you have to pay taxes on that car? Absolutely?

So technically it's not free. Yeah, it's not free. Well, hey, listen, I saved what forty something thousand dollars fifty thousand dollars, so I was able to give my mom this, this, this, this tahoe And it was good because I wasn't on No, Yes, I was. I just signed my first big deal, and you know, she needed a car and uh and I was able to just give her that And that was the hottest thing out from an SUV standpoint at the time. Now we're what ten years later, eleven years later, my

sister's driving that cars. It probably has about fifty more miles left in it. Jules, you were a Super Bowl MVP. Did you get a car or anything for that or no? No, they give you. They give you like a metal ball. That's pretty much it. I'll take that though, Like that's a good question for me, Jay, Would I take the metal ball or the Tahoe? I'll take the metal Ball. Wait, our boy Jack has so what do you got? Jack? Looks like as of twenty nineteen, Pro Bowl MVPs were

getting a Genesis G seventy. So they went from Tahoe to Genesis. They just they just went to Genesis. A little fun fact from our boy Jack, I like Genesis. Maybe Genesis will come in and partner with games with names. Maybe maybe. I mean, that's what a true professional man who developed? I am athlete? What else? What do we just develop house of athlete? Yep? This guy just entrepreneur stud fashion Icon, hair icon ooh and business extraordinary Brandon.

Can you name? This is games with names? Can you name the name of every quarterback you played with? Nope, it was like seventeen bro eighteen. We got a lot. Let me do, let me try, want me to try? Yeah try. When you say played, what you mean threw me the ball? Well pro Bowl aside, We'll say, okay, So, uh, year one you had we had Jake the Snake, Plumber you had I liked Plumber, Jay Cuttler, you had Kyle Orton, and then there was a couple of guys that you know when guys went down and we had like two

guys or there's two more quarter Chris Sims. You caught a ball from a semi Yeah. Baby. Every but every morning, every morning, Chris Sims and I would would be in the facility, like six in the morning, you know, in the training room, Mark, not in the training room, but in the weight room in the indoor by ourselves, and you know, I'll run a couple of hours, run like two miles, I'll do my little lyft and then he'll be doing his thing, and then we'll go into the

indoor and he'll throw me a bunch of balls. But it was more so for him because he was coming back from this like spleen injury, this big injury, and so he's trying to get his core back right. So he'll be throwing me balls from like a BOCI ball, standing on balls, throwing stuff. So we did that every morning the entire year. But anyways, Cayle Orton went down right before the Redskins game. He came in. I think he mayn threw me like two touchdowns, I want to say,

but you know you have him. And then there's another quarterback that threw me a ball in my Denver days. I forget his name, but there was another guy, So we're gonna count that as a win. Then I get to the Miami Dolphins. You have Chad Pennington. You had Chad Henning, you had Matt Moore, you had Tyler Thickpin. I believe those were the guys that threw me a ball. Then let's get to the Chicago Bears. You had Jason Campbell, you had Josh McCown, Jay Cutler again we put the

band back together, and you had Classing Jimmy Classon. Yep, we had old Jimmy Yep. Not there Dame, and I think, I think, I think, I think, I think I think that was it. I think that was it for the Chicago Bears. And then I move on to the Jets. You had gene O Smith, you had my my, my favorite of all time, Ryan Fitzpatrick. He threw me a ball and made favorite because, like I said earlier, as a player, you just want an opportunity to to to be in position to win. You just want an opportunity.

And he gave us the best opportun unity he I mean, really couldn't he didn't have. You don't know Ryan Fitzpatrick for his arm. Actually we look at his arm and be like, oh my goodness, you know, how's he in the NFL? Most people think that, right, A lot of people think that it's crazy because he's actually gotten better as a He got better as a thrower, you know, his last five years of like a seventeen eighteen year career is crazy. But he just put us in position.

Man like the way we communicated, the way he led the team. He met everybody where they're at. Everybody loved them, Everybody rallied behind him. You know, my quarterbacks experience was up and down. Just name Look how many quarterbacks I named before I got to Ryan Fitzpatrick. So we talk about quarterbacks leading the way you talk about quarterbacks, sitting down with Eric Decker and saying, Eric Decker, this is how we're going to get you involved in You know,

you're my god. It's my package for you, sending over little clips all day at night voice memos. This is what we're going to do. Hey, Brandon, we're playing against the Patriots. Every time you have your left foot up, they're going to play like this. So this is what I want you to do this week. Right? And if I pat on my head and then we go out and we smoked jewels in them boys, right, So you

know he was that guy. That's why I love Ryan Fitzpatrick. Man, he's one of my all time favorite teammates, one of my all time favorite people in the whole wide world. You want me to keep going? I think that was it. Yeah, Russell Wilson, you had Eli Manning, and I think that was it. And then I went to New Orleans. I had a cup of tea in New Orleans with Drew Brees coach Peyton, thinking that I was gonna go to the playoffs for the very first time. Right, So there's

actually fun fact here. So twenty eighteen, I'm playing for the Seattle Seahawks. It's not going well. Still beat up a little bit. Get to the trade deadline. Coach Carrol brings me to office, like, hey, beat, we've got to cut you. Man ain't working out. But don't be surprised if you go to New England. You know we you know they should be calling you. You know, we thought we were going to trade you to New England. I think they wanted me to potentially come in and play

tighten or whatnot. So I'm like, all right, cool, that might even a good landing spot. And I end up waiting a week. Two weeks go by in New England. Never called. Oh my god, he would have won a super Bowl. He would have won a super Bowl that year. That's the year I won a super Bowl. Yeah, we won a super Bowl that year. Oh my, oh my goodness. So anyways, I get to New Orleans. I call Bill par Sales. I'm like, Bill, can you just get me

a tryout? I know coach Payton. So anyways, I actually go to Detroit with your guy coach Patricia, mate Patricia, and I'm like, it's over. This is year thirteen. I'm like, shit, man, it's over. You know, I'm thirty catches away from a thousand, you know, a couple of catches away from one hundred touchdowns, never been to the playoffs. You know, I'm tired of watching the super Bowl. I think you got to make

a comeback. Bro, it's been three years. If you make a comeback, I'll make a comeback, all right, sure deal? Maybe maybe Giants. You only with the Giants for one year. Man, you only played five games trying to go to Giants. Jones, figure it out, day old Jones. I like Brian day Ball. Hey, Dave, Yeah, we like Brian day Ball. But I think if if I wasn't making comeback, I'm going to Denver, I'm gonna play with Russell Wilson, sure for sure. Anyway, Huh who

you had? JP Lossman? That you forgot? Patrick Ramsey and Bryce Petty? Remember him? He was with the Buffalo Bills, right, poor Bryce? Yes, poor Bryce Petty. Unbelievable, Brandon, If you could have played with any quarterback, who would have been so? I mean, I think everybody want to play with Tom Brady. You know, I think Tom Brady will be at the top, right. You know, I just love how you know, he's always going to do his best for the team. You know,

it seems like he meets guys where they're at. You know, guys love him. I mean even now, I've only been around on a handful of times. But if I message him, they'll message back. I do have a legendary story about Tom Brady. You know, maybe you share later, but he's just an awesome guy and so and then it needs

to go. So I would legendary story. We want to So the day I asked you for your jersey, you guys came to Miami and I walked up to you and I asked for your jersey, but I also asked for Tom Brady's jersey, right, And Tom was based like, yeah, yeah, I can give it to you. But you know, uh, you know Bill and the guys, they don't like us exchanging jerseys. After the game, I have to send it to you. I will go inside, I'll give it to our equipment manager and then we'll have it sit to you.

I was like, man, I know by neither game warned, don't send me no bullshit, Tom, Like, I don't want you know, something that is in game war and want this one said I got you, I got you beat right, And at the time, like, you know, I'm not that guy. You know, I may be top five, top six receiver at the time, but I ain't that guy. You had Fitz Jerald out there, you had Andre Johnson, you had a couple of guys out there. But Tom recognized me.

I feel good, Tom, Tom, beautiful teeth, eyes here, I don't even know what here do he had you can get lost? Then, yeah, man, Tom recognized me. He says he's gonna give me his jersey. So that was like two thousand eleven, I want to say, So that's like twenty eleven in Miami. That was so eleven years ago, easy, is that? So? So anyways, that young listen, I'm waiting the next week. It never showed up. Two weeks, two never show Tom Brady hasn't sent you a jersey. Hold on,

hold on, six months go by Jules Jay. The jersey that it come never showed up. So now I have this grudge against Tom Brady that I'm carrying every single year, year after year after year. You know what I mean. I got this legendary jersey collection. I got some of the best guys. I got kickers. Bro. Most of these guys that y'all see with all these jerseys. I know Aaron Foster have this legendary jersey collection that everybody's talking about. Bro,

he don't have kickers. I got all the great kickers, man, I got everybody. So b when Tom, When Tom left New England, I went to his locker and I stole like three pairs of his cleave set he wearing games. I was taking like I took a couple of jerseys. I think I may have taken his deodorant a couple. He used to have his smell goods and I would always cover and steal a little shot of his uh perfume or his pull oon. Tom Brady always smells great. I'm sure just looking at him, I can tell Tom

always smells good. It's weird. I'm like, Bro, how are you smelling good? Rump practice? He goes, yeah. So with anyone getting in there grabbing jockstrap, I mean that still got value. I'm sure it's Tom Brady. Nobody wear well. There's a few guys in the locker room and still and I used to wear a jock You you wore a jocking what I wore a jock and I wear nothing else jocking, just pants. I just wore pants, bro, that's his pick. I couldn't do that. Why because I

mean then then we're all over the place. You gotta do adjustments to the right, like the left like that. No, I'm not hanging like that. Very average. Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm like a are you a grower or shower? I would say, I'm definitely a grower showing nothing. I'm a grower too. What about you, Jay, you look like you look like a sad I'm a grower too, grower. I heard rumor that black dudes aren't. I thought they're just show they show everything they got. That's what that's what

you heard. That's what I heard. I mean, that's what I mean. Yeah, that's that's the rumor on the street. Well, I mean the rumor is like that, you know they pack it, we packing. That is that is largely I did shower with a lot of guys, largely Hey Jules, Hey Jewels, No, we can't. Are the guys that I was about to say, what are you gonna say? No? You know, you know, the guys run the league and they gonna see this. They're gonna watch, they're gonna get

on us, they're gonna text us. But like I was gonna talk about the locker room, you know, like we all shower together. But let's move on. It's true. I mean they've been doing it for hundreds of years, athletic time on tradition. Huh time tradition to time. You just can't be national geographic bird watching in the shower. That's like the rule. You just can't be seeing someone though. We were like, holy shit, I can't not look there is there is a couple guys where like it was

so big. I like I looked at myself and it humbled me as a man. Wow, you accidentally blurred out, WHOA look at your dong. Sam. You can't come in a locker room and have wondering eyes, bro, that's true. No bird watching the game. And here's the here's the weirdest thing, right walking in the locker room and now you have thirty forty networks or men and women on the beat. The weirdest thing is like wondering eyes, right, like when you know what your team makes you comfortable? Right,

these are brothers, right, Like we're cool. That's easy, you know. Yeah, like Brandon. It's cool if Brandon looks at my Dick Waller in there each other, Yeah, that's the cool thing. And if he touches a little, it's cool. Your brothers. It doesn't matter as long as we have socks on. Sam. Hey, Sam, stop entertaining this, stop it and start calling you Jay again. Stop ouch Hey listen listen, Jewels. Isn't it like the

the Wondering Eyes Bro? The media? Yeah? Yeah, the media, because the media comes in right after games and like you're changing. Wow, there's like men, women, kids, It's crazy. They were just animals. Just don't worry, they're just changing. Yeah right, yeah, that that's that's that's when I kind of get a little insecure. I like, you know, cover up a little bit. Well you know, did we know? Anyways, listen,

let me finish this Tom Brady's story. Yeah. Let me get get get let me get my guys back on track. So anyways, six years ago by still nothing right. And now you know, every all season I'm in my man cave and I got all these jerseys. So every time I walk in there, and the all season, I just trained and came home. That's it, right, And so spent most of my time in this little dope little pool hall that that that we built. And I have all of these legends, all these guys that we talked about,

uh in these Pro Bowl games, They're all there. So I'm looking and I'm like, the only thing I'm missing is Tom Brady. Actually, I even have the last Randy Moss jersey, the last jersey he wore as a Patriot. Right. I went up to Randy Mam, I was like, hey, can I get this jersey? Like he didn't really play that's when he and the team and Bill was beefing, I guess, And it was actually in Miami. That was

the last game he played in. That was the last game. Yes, And so I walked up to can I get this jersey? He was like, hell, yeah, you can have this. Shit, I ain't wearing this again. So I had that, but I'm looking, I'm like this one spot, where's Tom Brady? And it just never showed up. So I carried this grudge for a very long time. Anyways, fast forward. This could turn into the song stand by eminem right here, yeah, here we go, Here we go. He's so fast forward

to the beginning of the pandemic. Right, everybody's at home, working out, doing exercises, riding their bikes, cleaning out their garage, just doing you know, yard work. So I happened to see all these guys and ladies doing their work in the garage, like maybe I should do that too. So I go out there in the garage and I have boxes all over the place. Every jersey that I've ever won on, every touchdown that ever caught, I have those balls,

those cleats. So if you're a thief for that kind of stuff, every yeah, Because when I first got in the league, I heard you're listening. When I first got in the league, I heard this legendary story by Emmis Smith. He was like, look when when when you know, people call me in the community, or non profits called me in the community, They're like, hey, can I get some sign you know? He wanted to send something that was actually game used, so I was like, oh, that's pretty dope.

So he kept everything. So that's why I kept everything. So I have all these boxes that I was about to organize and go through started a pandemic. I get to this one big box and there was this little FedEx box just sitting there opening up, hoping that was going to be like some check, some money from maybe some deals marketing deals that I never you know, opened up and it wasn't it was something better. It was the Tom Brady jersey. And he said, hey, be you're

a great player. Look forward to seeing you continue to thrive. Tom Brady said, oh, my goodness, that makes your weak made my week. Bro. I fell in love with the guy. What are you talking about? I know he got me too. There's something about Tom. There's something about like just because like the type of person he was like this whole time, Like he sent the jersey man like the years, this back then, and you just missed it. I missed it. I missed it. I don't even know like I missed it.

I had the jersey all of these years, Tom Brady jersey sitting in my garage right. So it's just like it shows the type of guy he is, Like he's a man of his word, you know. You know it's hard to find that, right, Like, yeah, that's a big deal. You know, Hey Tom, can I get your jersey? Sure, no problem, I'll send it to you. And then you don't get it. Oh he's a scumbag, right, you know that? And that's what a lot of people don't realize about Tom.

Stand up, gentlemen. Everyone wants to hate him, and everyone hates him until you meet him, right, and then once you meet him, you're like, damn it, I like this guy. It's fucking shame. I've heard that story so many times from people when they go, yeah, I fucking hate Brady da and they say they meet him and they're like, I love them. But I think the world go see, yeah, see there you go, because I think like the overall

consensus on Tom Brady has beloved, is loved. Like now, in the football world, you know, you know I don't. I'm not a hater. I love Bill Belichick, I love you, I love Tom, I love Grunk, I love that on the field now, I'm coming at y'all. But at the end of the day, there's a lot of people in football that hate the Patriots, right in the football circles. A lot of people hate Tom Brady. A lot of people hate Bill Belichick, right, Robert Kraft r KK right.

But look, I think that's just the football world. Outside of that, I think that you know, the Patriots and Tom Brady is beloved. I mean, people root against greatness. I think if you're a diehard fan of something. You want to see other team win, you know. So, I think a lot of the hate on the Patriots is when teams are dynasties, they get hate. People hate on the Yankees, people hate on the Pads, people hate on

the Golden State Warriors, you know, bulls. Yeah, it doesn't mean that you don't love them when they're gone, when they were tired. Like I'm a Knicks fan the nineties, I hated Jordan of course. Now I'm like, he's the goat. I mean, what can you say? So, you know, I think you just need time. And Thomas played for so long that time has passed and he's still playing. That's right, that's right, that's right. You can'tnot respect it, That's right, Brandon.

Is there anything else on the Pro Bowl? Anything else on the Pro Bowl twenty twelve? MVP performance four touchdowns, one hundred and seventy five yards at a Loha stadium, at a Loha stadium, goes out there, sets the record, takes it away from Smith. Was Jerry Smith, Jerry Smith, Jerry Rice, What are you talking about? Jerry Smith? Jerry Right, Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Smith, Jimmy Smith. No, Jimmy Smith had the record. Oh okay, okay, okay, I thought it was Jerry.

Remember Jimmy Smith from the the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bro, he's a Hall of Famer. We need to recognize a beast. Beast. What number was he? Eighty four? Eighty two? I believe eighty two. Yes, I knew it was an off brand number. Usually you know what I mean. Yep, man, Hey man, I want to thank you, bro. Yeah, I didn't say another. I got to say Aloha, goodbye, Aloha stadium. I think we hit it. Uh. Anyway, Brandon, You're so great to talk to you, man, thank you for coming. It's great.

Eisde hold On, hold on, hold on. You asked me a question. Can I answer it? You said? Do I have anything else? What else we got? I thought you were done? Bro, hold on, let's go back into history books right now. I can go back too far. Gail Sayers two times, Joe Namath, Kate, keep going, O. J Simpson that you brought up Jay Slash, Sam all right, Walter Payton, Okay, Phil Sims, Phil Sims, Bill, what'd you

call them? Mister Simms, Mister Simms, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Randall Cunningham, Jim Kelly, Michael Irvins, Michael Michael, Playmaker Marshall, Maker, Jerry Rice, Golden Moon, Keyshawn Johnson, Todd Ty Law, Pat's Guy what, Ricky Williams, Peyton Manning, Derek Brooks, Carson Palmer, Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitzgerald, D'Angelo Hall. And there it is Brandon Marshall sketched in the NFL history. You're gonna be in that room, right the MVPs of the picture of

you in the room. There's a picture you said, there's a room over in Aloha Stadium. There's listen. I know one thing. When you walk into Loha Stadium and they had those m vps going around that Ring of Honor, my name is up there. I'm hey, listen, I didn't make it to the Pro Bowl yet, I mean, to the Super Bowl yet, make it to the playoffs yet, But I am a Pro Bowl MVP. Baby, you baby, you're my m v P. Oh. I'm blushing. See you just have a way with way with way with words. Bro.

It just makes me feel so like I just don't even I really have terrible vocabulary, honestly. Yeah, but yeah, but but you make up for it when you do like the sounds and stuff like, oh yeah, like coach Gruden and you know you got I hope I'm not like coach. Similarities with Julian's emails, they're very tasteful. Brandon, thank you so much for coming on. Man, it's great to meet. Yeah, all right, Jay, Sam, Sorry, no, I love you. Gonna live this down. No, No, Sam, appreciate you. Bro.

This was awesome. You gotta come come out out the cellar. He's about He's doing a Netflix special too. Oh man, that's dope. He called you. J I love that. What what what is the what's the legacy for this game? Eh? I mean, it's it's cool that he lit it up, but it's not like a legacy game really. It's just it's a cool game. If you think about it. You have so many incredible football players like in that generation.

Just like he said, a Peyton man named Ben Roethlisberger was no. But it just in general with the Pro Bowl, that has to be an insane, like real moment when you're around those kind of guys. I wouldn't know, of course, but you know what I mean, you were around a pretty big quarterback. He Kep. Yeah, he kept on saying that, he kept on bringing up Peyton, this Peyton that I'm like, yeah, that's pretty good. And then I was thinking to myself, man, I had a pretty lucky because you look at that

quarterback list that he went through. Yeah, that's that's not a lot of quarterbacks. That's tough. And it's funny. It's like watching two dudes who both have good lives. But it's like, you know, the guy who's like married with kids and he's happy, and then the guy who like has sex with a lot of hot women. I don't know which one is which, oh I do, honestly, but uh, you know, it's like two guys who are like, ah, the grass is greener, but you both had incredible careers.

It's just different careers. Well that and that that goes to show you how great of a team sport football is. Of course, because individually, Brandon Marshall like phenom. He was insane. He was a top he was like the best receiver a couple of times in his career of like the whole year. Yeah, like in the league, and he's always like top five. And imagine if he had you know, imagine if it would it'd be insane. We do. We can't imagine what happened with Peydon. That's that's what I

learned from this episode. Never drop a pass from Peydon, no matter fucking when or what. Cat that ball. I remember something very similar to that. It was my first pass ever from Tom. It was OTAs and they put in a package with four receivers of a four wide group, and they gave me a play. And this was like, I never played receiver, but they created a package for me, and they're like, all right, let me get in. I run like a hook route and Tom darts it on me.

And I tried to run before I had it because I want, you know, I wanted to do something with it. Dropped the ball. He goes, catch a fucking ball, Julian. I went home and cried. I went home and cried, not like I was. I felt pretty shitty for like four days, you know. And that's tough because you're competing in training camp and all these camps and stuff. But like when you're hear like Tom, I mean, I was in eighth grade and this guy was winning Super Bowls.

I was like, hey, I'm Tom Brady on the asphalt to fucking school and this guy comes out me and says, catch the fucking ball, Julian. There could have been rookie or something. I was so humiliated. I felt so terrible. It was like the worst feelings. So you never want to drop, especially quarterbacks of you know, Tom's caliber, Peyton's caliber, because they won't throw to you. A huge part of his trust. Sure, and it took me so long to

earn his trust after that fucking play. It took me like three years during the doghouse doghouse, not even a paw out. But you know, well, uh yeah, this was a crazy, crazy game. I'm glad I hit the Aloha prop bet too way over? Yeah, not way over. I think I hit at least six, So I wasn't able to sneak one in out of the gate, and I knew I had a kind of froze on us come from behind victory. Did you get scared? Know? What happened was we didn't open with the with the the game,

so I couldn't find a good opening. Yeah, we definitely going forward. We're still very new at this, but like we got a we gotta shape it up a little better. I bet we'll figure it we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. It's funny to me though, when when I'm watching you interact with them. Yeah, like the athletes. It'd be so similar to like if we had comedians on here and I had to interact with them. Sure,

I could just see like, uh, can I ask? I can see you going through your head like I'm getting accustomed to it. You're trying to learn the guy. Can I throw in this joke? Can I make a dead baby joke? Exactly? Jack? Do we forget anything? I think that was a pretty clean up. We cashed our prop bet with six alohas. Brandon indeed never made a Super Bowl despite what he said earlier. We had a little JP Losman talk, which is always good. He's now on

the staff at University of Oklahoma. And then when we were talking Dix in the locker room, we forgot a memorable moment when a Fox broadcast called Vincente Shanko the tight end on the Vikings naked it as Lou and they had to cut away real quick in issue an apology full Jack. Yes, Fox said zero point five seconds it was on screen, but that was plenty of time for the Internet to catch that nice and Jimmy Internet.

I still remember someone was calling him the equipment manager after that because he was packing shout Out in Santa And then Jimmy Smith was indeed eighty two and held the previous Pro Bowl record of touchdowns touchdown receptions at three. Thanks Jack. What do we name the game? Does it even deserve a name? Or do we just call it the Brandon ball Out Bowl? I love it, triple B Brandon ball Out bull No, Brandon ball Out Aloha Bowl. Yeah, you gotta throw some Hawaiian in there, because that's the

tradition of the Pro Bowl. Love a Hawaiian pokey bowl? You ever have a poke bowl? I don't love pokey bowls really. Yeah. They're solid, they're good, but it's not like like, to be honest, would you rather have like a chicken taraokee bowl or a poke bowl? Depends on the mood depends. Would you rather have like a short rib or a skirt steak like rice bowl or would you have a poke a different things, but it's still something protein with rice, I get a bowl. I like

my shit hot. I like hot food. I love sushi, don't get me wrong, but the sushi's got to be on right. I gotta be in the right schedule. I gotta be in the right mood. I don't know fair enough, all right, I take it back, Fuck Pokey, fuck me too. I'm a piece of shit. All right, let's score this game on the rubric right here, Julie steaks, I mean no steaks, really, I guess twenty grand that's the steaks. I will give one for a steak. Yeah, I say one,

because twenty grand is not nothing. But to these guys, it's probably not crazy money, you know. Yeah, like you said, they probably spent the dinner. Yeah, exactly on drinks. Star powers are ten star power we had gameplay point five. Yeah, there's no real defense. Zero. We can give it a one. I mean, the offense is pretty damn cool. It is cool. Is that even low? Because the offense is so cool? But I guess it's not like now one is good? Name is five? Is? I think four? Five is high?

Let's go for lower lower. Let's go to two. Yeah, what's that make our grand total? Jack, looks like we got an even five, even five that's going to be on the lower side for the show. Oh it's three point three point five the low that direction three point five. Thank you, thank you. Star Power really saved this one. I mean, or we're looking at a at a at a turd, so but it was. It was good to hear the perspective of what really goes on at the Pro Bowl. A lot of drinking, a lot of fun,

a lot of skits from Hayton Manning. Of course, I mean, this guy, we can't get him off of skits. We see him on ESPN, we see him on every commercial. You know what else, We're gonna see Him're gonna see him on Games with Names here in the future. Way can't wait. And that's all. Well, thanks for this episode of games. I'm thanking them. That's all. You're welcome for this episode. That's all for this episode of Games with Names,

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