"2003 AFC Championship" with Ty Law | Colts vs. Patriots

They were the stars around town. In my little hometown, everything shuts down when it comes to football, you know, you would think you would be at a floor to state game. And I'll equippa, because we got the horse, we got the fire Every time somebody scores, when you're in the town, you hear the fireworks going off. So

it was a real community type of feel. And you wanted to be out there, and that's what And I knew that that was my ticket, if anything, you know, to get out and make a better name for myself, better life for myself. And you did.

right now? And how the hunger do you still see guys from your area still coming out and balling out?

we played it with, we made it our own. They came and opened up a brand new stadium this past year and it's beautiful. It was beautiful. And guess what went undefeated for the first time. Let's go and man, it's been crazy. And they're working on the state championship right now in basketball, playing right now up by eighteen. So I'm keeping in touch with my guys right now. But Aliquippa is everything to me. Man, you grew up a Steelers here. Hell no, hey, I was out. I

grew look, I grew up a cowboy fan. Although I respect the Stealers and everybody in my hometown, they were diehard stealers and the only thing that used to irritate me is that when we played them after I got to the NFL, they wanted me to win. They wanted me to get five interceptions. I could in the game, but they want me to be on the other side of the score on the other side of the scoreboard and the loser bracket. That's how die hard the Pittsburgh Faithful is. But you know I was. I want to

do something different. That's why I didn't go to pitt Everybody from ala Quippa, you think about Mike Dicker, Tony dor Set, Drel Reeves, they wanted to pit I wanted to do something different. You know, it's nothing against Pitt, but I wanted to. I didn't want to be to try to be the next Tony door Set because that's what everybody was because I was, you know, running back and all that stuff touchdowns. But I wanted to be the first time law. I realized, you can't be the

next twenty door set. He's one of one. But I want to be one of one. And that's why I decided to go to the University of Michigan and just flip it up because a lot of the top athletes always go to Pitt or Penn State, and Penn State was out the goddamn question. I mean, you don't see nothing. You don't see nothing fucking corn fields and everything. When I was there at the time, you know what I mean, I thought I was children of the corner. I seen Malachi him up there. I was like, oh hell no,

I man, I was never going up there. I was scared. Never been out there.

is the game to go to the Super Bowl. We're playing against you know at that time, you know our arch Nyms is our rivals in Peyton Manning, you know the face of the league and you know along with Tom, so it was big and for me personally, I knew I had to go play like I had to get up for that game, you know these kind of games you circle, because I had to go against the great Marvin Harrison, you know what I mean, and Peyton Manny and I knew I was gonna get opportunities, so I didn't.

I was always afraid of being on the wrong end of the highlights. Man, I did you cause you gotta wait a week to get some redemption. And guess what, you can't wait no week then you lose that game. You gotta wait a whole nother year to get some whole another year and the exactly exactly, the low lights exactly, And I was not about to have that. So I mean I was extra motivated, you know, you know, for that game, and for whatever reason, he kept coming my way. I mean, dumbest shit ever.

Hell no, you can't give him space. So maybe if I attack right now, make him uncomfortable, Peyton to go like this and go elsewhere, you know what I mean. That was that was my job scrimmage exactly. When at the line of scrimmage, man, they started putt him in motion though. That was the that was the thing they used to do because I used to try to. I used to get him at the line of scrimmage. They'll put him in motion to short motions and stuff like that,

exactly exactly. It's crazy. You've been watching this dynasty. Yeah, look, I got to be honest. I only watched the first you know, I think the first three or three or four episodes because it's two parts on each one. But from what I'm hearing, you know, I don't like what I'm hearing. I got to really sit down. I've been so busy, you know, with Mabaka and just just keeping my head down doing me. But I don't like what I'm hearing what how they're making Bill look out, they're

portraying Bill. I haven't you know, seen it, so I got to see it for myself to get a real assessment. But just from a lot of people, I mean, I don't like it because he make him look look bad guy. I don't like that. We got to talk about this politically because we still love the people that produced it, right absolutely, But I mean it's I mean, it's crazy to watch some of this and and you know, I did a four hour interview for this thing YouTube. Yeah, I was in for.

wasn't in the locker room. It's a little bit different when you know, you know, you take yourself out of it. You've been a part of this journey. You've seen you were on the field when the hit happened, the drew. You've seen Tom's progression and how we used to get on him and you know him being like, you know, a young guy and just so hungry. You know, you've seen his like hunger to try to get out there on the field, but no one can anticipate he would

be the goat. And for anybody to to say they've seen that, it's full of shit because no one's seen that he would be the It's not even argument the greatest quarterback of all time. My thing is the greatest football player of all time. That's how I feel about Tom Brady. Who's the greatest quarterback? Tom Brady? And I

don't know, no, but you know what I mean. It's like, you know how some Jews, you know how some stuff is debatable, And I mean you can sit there talk about you know, hockey, you know Greg Gretzky is gret Sky, and then you got a whole lot of other guys music or the other guy that is, you know, making all the ways you can talk about basketball, it is always going to be a debate with who was better or Michael Lebron instead of just looking at those guys or they were great and they in their time for

what they did for the game. You got to add even Kobe in there, you know what I mean. If you want to put the thing on championships or best games, you got to talk about Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, regardless of what error that they was in. But there is a debate, there is absolutely no debate when it comes to who's the greatest quarterback of all time? You can say football player, because some people still think because of the Red Shirts, that they wasn't football players, you know

what I mean. But I think Tom surpassed that notion, you know, of being as tough and as resilient as he was taking the hits, getting up, talking shit, getting in people's face. He was just a different breed. But it is no debate whatsoever of who's on the mount rushmore of the quarterback position. You know, it's people that's having some great stuff done. Right now, let's talk about Patrick Mahomes. He's doing some great, great things. But to put him, for some to say, in Tom Brady category,

come on, man, too early, too soon. You gotta let it shape out exactly. He's doing some great things and great things, and he's unbelievable.

it's the new breed. But you got to start with Montana. You got you gotta get him first, you know what I mean. You got Terry, you gotta get got exactly then Terry Bradshaw, he got four. What will we be talking Original TV twelve. What will we be talking about right now? If Jim Kelly happened to win for Super Bowls in the row, he will be in the conversation. Unfortunately they didn't win. But I think certain people get a lot of kudos for going to the championship. But

you got to close it out, closed door. You got to close it that damn though.

That's all you can say is that, you know, that's the spirit, you know, hey, but me and Laurie looked at you like, bullshit, that's a hunted million dollars and may you're going back to the pine, big buddy when Drew come back. I mean, that's just what we thought from the business side of it. But when he was out there to play, all we asked him was don't don't blow it, you know what I mean, don't turn the ball over. He didn't develop into Tom Brady the

best that we ever seen in our life. At that time. He was still a young guy. You know. We had a run game our defense was phenomenal. I mean you, I mean, you're not going to put up a lot of points on him. We had like the number one, number two defense in the league, you know what I mean. We were like that. So I mean he got to, you know, come in easy, not as much pressure. But when it was time, that's when you kind of seen that something special about this kid is when in crunch

time as a young buck, he was cool. He was always real chilly. And then you start seeing him take more of a leadership role, a more vocal role, because he wasn't that vocal you know before. I don't think he was that confident to get up in front of the team. Got guys, you know, both guys like a Teddy Bruce kid, Willie McGinnis and those guys. They did. They did a lot of the talking, you know what I mean. Lawyer, you know, he was a big talker. You know, sometime you got to tell a lawyer to

shut the head up. Man, we're trying to go home. But he liked to get at you know the end of the speech. I normally hear this when he see it, but sometime I'd be like, lawyer, man, would you shut the head up so we can go home long ass day, you know. But Tom eventually became that person to you know, talk, and he gained everybody's respect. Man, so you know much love to the go. Was there a specific game where you're like, all right, we could win with this guy.

He's a super Bowl caliber quarterback. Now it may not have been that first seedson that first super Bowl, but somewhere along in this two thousand and three season, I mean, you guys started, you guys were fourteen to two. I mean, from the time that he won the super Bowl and became this big phenomenon and you know, everything that had happened and transpired during the season, you've seen it right there. He came in the next you know season with a

different type of confidence, different type. No, he didn't let the fame get to his head to where he wasn't willing to put in that work. And he did that because I'm telling you, I think, I know we gave him a hard time because we didn't trust you yet. You know what I mean, you just you just got here. Yes, you're our teammate, but it's our job to talk shit every time in practice and put it throw it back in your face. You know, we was all talking at

all times. He throw that over here. Sometimes I wouldn't even pick it up. I just backed the mother's bucker. I ain't gonna throw that bullshit. You know that's a pick. Come on, man, William McGinnis is Addy Rabel, I mean Rabel, wass man. It is nothing that is off limits, you know when it when it comes to you know, Rabel in his answer, whatever he might say, you know what I mean, as long as they ain't. You know, it might even be on a borderline personal, you know, for rape.

You know, he might say something about your mom and your sister. I mean, just anything. But that's how he motivated, you know what I mean. And and like I said, he would just touch that line and back up off of it, you know what I mean. Rabel was the guy that passing out the damn drinks before practice. Cold as hell. We used to have to drive, see Jude, you you came in when the when the house was built,

we had to drive the practice. Man. We in there a bunch of like a little bunch of Pop Warner kids would show the paths and hammels and benzes and ship going to practice. You know, everybody got their little Rabel got the flask over. Everybody go take uswigs next thing. You know, everybody keeping something in the car. So we out there as cold as hell. Cold cold sounds like you today. Oh yeah, Mike Rabel, thanks man, you know

you inspire me. Oh my gosh. I used to be in that training room and oh, Jimmy Whalen used to tell us all the stories. The stories he tell us, the Rabel stories.

But Bill always say you on your own, so we'd roll the coverages as we give a look. But I was always, you know, basically man or zone playing man, you know what I mean. So I just had to keep myself in that type of shape. And I was always one of those guys that can get a little fick shell shit. I gotta I gotta keep on I gotta keep on running. So I did that every day, and then on Thursdays, I ran the whole stadium. So I would do that before practice, sure before before, I

do that before meetings. I'm already lathered up before meetings. Some people come in and get a little lift in, get breakfast before meetings, or do it in between. I came in at six thirty in the morning every day, you know, and I'm talking about legit, you know, four to five miles, and it was like it's four and a half miles. I did with my car, same route up and down, and Thursdays, hit the whole state, in the whole bottom row. You got to hit every step,

do the whole run. But Friday, massage, Saturday nothing, game time. Sunday, fucking.

Rabo was a coach. Bruski was that quarterback man. It's like I always tell people I would I wouldn't be where I am today as a as a Hall of Famer without that. Damn Teddy Bruski. No why, I ain't know what the hell was going on. I'm like, who I got? Give me him? Brusk be like, hey, Ti, you got anymore? We're doing this because I would never come into the huddle. So if you watch the you know, old films, you will never see me going in the huddle and everybody run back to her. Damn it I'm

too tired. I just ran you know, nine nine nine routes because if you're playing bump and run, people would always just run you off, you know. Man, So I was fade fade. I get so many of them a game, because you know, I'll cut the route off and it converts to a fade. So Bruski would I would look, He'll tell me you got this, you got this. If I'm sitting there, I go like this to brew when did I'm tired? He'll call the cover too, just to give me a break. And he come back to the

sideline romos to get on him. Bru What the fuck was that? He like, fucking tie was tired, you know, and he said it's it's on me, And so I was like, thank you, Bruce. You know. So there we had that kind of thing where he'll just know, you know, if I was blue out, and he'll sit there and just do that just to give me a break.

we run in the scout team. Have you when you came when the scout team is on, we never sat down. And just that started with myself, Odi Smith. We started that and then next thing, you know, here come the rest of the defense. We used to do it because we were always telling you we took everything as man coverage. We had to run with these guys. I wasn't the fastest gull on the block, but I can they run the same thing for four quarters. So next thing you know,

you see the offensive line doing it. Now, Hey Tom, I'm doing it. You know what I mean. But it started, you know, right there. So that's why no one ever sat down, And we were like I'm gaining on you. If you're not doing that, you got to be doing push ups or some shit sitting there. Hey, Jules, I'm gaining on you. So guess what you got to drop down to do push ups? That's just what it was. Is that the mentality that's missing with the Patriots right now?

Damn right? Who was there to lead them? Who's there to show them? Who was there that had the experience? And then now when you're talking about you know, the great you know, Matthew Slater, moving on, who's who's left now? You know you were gone the day exactly. So I mean, are they that are that? Are they that vocal? I mean when you do you really look at you know, you got to have a dominant personality. You gotta have

to respect amongst the peers. So I think we had so many players as time went on that stayed on to be able to help you guys, you know what I mean. And then you picked up and you be able to help some of the young guys and they're going there. But now it's like no one else is there. And then when you got Tom Brady is there for twenty years. This is the goddamn standard. So It's always good when you got your best player, your most popular but most respected player, you know, set in a standard,

working hard, there's no excuses. You know. Tom Brady was a goddamn worker. He was a worker. You know, we experienced a different Tom. You know, I came in. He had three Super Bowls, you know, the supermodel wife, right, he was in the the high of the high. You know, I never got to see him.

they your best players have to be your hardest workers. Absolutely, And I learned that when I walked in the door with Teddy Brewski and Kevin Falk and Troy Brown was always around and then watching the old.

on the field. We understand that it is work. We got families, but we made a conscious effort to do stuff not only as a dB group, but we did stuff as a team. And that's when we started winning. We started seeing things change around. That's what became a Patriot wave. Even though like the coaches get credit in Belichick and Scott them bullshit patriotat started in that locker room. Well, I always explained like this, well, first off, in twenty twenty four, that's called bullying. First off, And.

that's a fucking paint cut. No, ain't saving me no money. I don't even got to send my agent this ship, you know, you know what I mean. But then we went through it, and then so he hits me and it was a good friend uh you know, on the team. I ain't say no names. I can't put it out there like that. And he was like, hey, look if you don't restructure this, man, we're gonna we have to cut your boy. I was like, well, I guess you

cut ass. I ain't giving your ship, you know. I'm like I said, I guess I guess I go tell my boy that, hey, brou hey, man, get your nick something like that, you know what I mean. But like I said, we were well, you know, but that's Bill being Bill and out there. So we ended up, uh, we end up working out our restructure. I said, Look, I don't care about it as long as I'm getting paid. The same thing is because I didn't call in and

try to get no more money. And even though a lot of stuff got blown out of proportion, we worked it out. I restructured my contract. My dog was still there, you know what I mean, and you know, we move on. But all we had to do was just we didn't even have to go through all that, Oh Bill, you know, you know they try to do that and test your lot. Coach par Sales tried me when I was a rookie, but I, like I like to say, I'm a little bit of a different breed. I got a mind of

my own. So now they came in and put me at the end Zone. The end Zone was even better, but it was still shitty when you was there, right the End Zone Hotel. I lived there for a couple of months, but when I came for my visit was myself, Curtis Martin. They ended up drapping both of us. You know how you just go on the business they want to talk to your interview and stuff like that. So Coach par Sales brought me into the office and say, look, hey man, we like you, but we don't like who

you got representing. You. He'sy you know those uh, those posting brothers. Man. He said, I can't draft you with that. So I'm sitting there myself. You know, people had me traject to go to the Detroit Lions at at number I think they had the twenty first pick of the draft. And I'm sitting like, you know what, after what I've seen looking at Foxboro Stadium and seeing all these trailer parks up here, and sh I'm like, man, okay, that made me keep my agent even more because I ain't

man y'all. You couldn't even put me in a Marriotte. You couldn't put me. You know, I'm thinking, I'm about to go to the league, you know, rich, get some room service and some ship like that. Man, bruh. I was not trying to come to the win just because of that. But when he told me, But when he told me that, what he tried to do is get into you know, a young guy's head. See what you think that's the divide and conquer, you know, mentality, saying

that you know you might want to draft me. You know I don't know that, but you think I'm gonna go. Was fired my agent just because of what you said, even if I had my agent and I'm with you and you don't want to get the deal, now you

need to know that that's not happening. So he my agent brought it up to Bill par Sales, and Bill was like, well I had to try because hey, this wasn't and I got you know, at that time, you know, I got a nice rookie deal, you know, which was I got equivalent to like the seventeenth pick, even though I was a twenty third pick. And then of course when you know, when it was time to you know, really get paid, you know, for it was the highest paid defensive back in the in the league. I mean

it's a production business exactly exactly. Business, yeah exactly, you get paid, you get that production, yeah exactly.

play a coach. I'm like domb with numbers and ship. I don't know what the fuck you know?

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So let's go to Bill's ass, right, So as we drinking and thinking shit, all right, So Bill I had a contract, so of course you know, he came you know, from the Jessie you know, and at the time I was the only person on the roster that was still in the Pete Carroll's contract. So I signed a big deal. I was with Pete. You know, Pete really went to bat and like I said, I earned my shit. But I was under that contract. So you know how it is,

Delly can touch your contract once. Once they touch it, you can't touch it for the rest of the year, you know what I mean. They would try to avoid me, like to play it. So next to Drew, I was next, but they would go to everybody else because they knew, you know at the time that I don't come mess with me about this shit, that that's not happening. So anyway, I had a a bonus in my contract where I get X amount of dollars if I come and make weight.

And I had a reporting bone this. So I had a reporting bonus, you know, because it's like you had a weight you had a weight clause. Huh No, that's what's part of my reporting was I I gotta come on time, make weight past the conditioning test. Yeah, we all got that exactly. I got a million dollars from mind workout bonus million bucks. No, that was reporting bonus.

My workout bonus was a hundred thousand, you know. So that's what just in case they catch you, Just in case they catch you, this save a mil Yeah, yeah, they know you could do it. So that was enough to come in and like I said, I was going to pass the conditioning. Say, I'll give a damn if I had to sit in the soign for fifty hours straight, I'm gonna get that damn bonus, you know what I mean. But it was one hundred thousands. So you know when I came in, I got the uh. I came in

and got my checks, you know what I mean. At the time, you know, you got direct direct deposit, but you get your receipt. So I got I got one. I'm like, where's my damn where my other? With my little hundred thousand net. So of course, you know, I go down, they say, I go upstairs, and they say you gotta go talk to Bill. I'm like, well, Ship, okay, hey Bill, well I missed one hundred thousand. And he was like, well, he said, we didn't talk this year.

I said, we're talking about because I went to Bob Cursey, you know, the great Bob Cursey Olympic you know, gold medal winning coach. I trained with him. I never stayed in the off season, you know, for the program. So you know, I got under my contract as long as it was approved by the head coach of GM, which it always was, I get both checks. So he said, we didn't talk this year because we talked last year because, like I said, he was fairly new to it and

he approved it. It was fine. So I was just assume it's like that every year. I was. I signed this ship when you was a jet. You remember you was a jet when I when I signed this contract. So when you came here this we talked jet for you guys. That's a little child. Yes, yes, profession exact, yeah exactly. So now he said there, He's like no, I'm like Bill Man, all right. So I called my financial advisor. I was like, yo, did that million clear yet? Not yet? So you know, I went out, I left and I

came back. So Bill know me, So I'm coming back in and bearsh He was like hey, he said, he's in there. Bill had my contracts sitting on He had my contracts sitting on his laid out, laid out, highlighted. He had to shit highlighted, saying hey, it has to be approved of this da da dada language. I'm like and it was always approved. You was a fucking jit. He said, well, Andy Wiser, Chuck, it's no longer GM, and I'm the head coach, and I say nothing fine.

So I was like, all right, I just took my ass to the locker room, got my stuff out the thing, and I walked on out. I was gone for three days. See it what no social media and all that stuff. So I was gone for three days, bro, And finally got the call because they got to call you and say, and this is doing training camp. But I know in training camp you cannot find me more than twelve hundred dollars a day. So as far it was one thousand dollars day at the time. Twenty now, huh twenty grand

oh yeah, unexcused absence. Yeah, so it was it was a thous It was like it was it was it was it five thousand? Was it five thousand? Yeah, it was five thousand. So I said, as far as I'm concerned, I got twenty practices. I'll be back at at UH on day twenty one to get that six million salary. I'll be back for that. But if I'm lose on a hunred thousand'ma lose this shit legit. So I was I was gone, you know what I mean. So eventually Bears called me down the phone. Bring your ass down here,

all right, I said, Bill, want my money? He said, you come down here. We talk about that ship later. So I go with principles off. He told me to come to go to the game because we were playing down in Washington. So you didn't practice all camp, No I did. I was gone for three days. I left three days is because guess what? Because what the million cleared? Okay, that was clear, that was in the bank. So as far as I'm concerned, I got one hundred thousand dollars

right here. That's out there, and to me where I come from, that's a lot of goddamn money. That's a lot of money. Anyway. That's the kind that you don't get a financial advisor get hing a million, but you keep one hundred thousand yourself. You know, dud dude, you gotta do you know, that's the pocket change at that time. You know, when you get there's a lot of money, but two things. So, like I said, where I come from, that's life changing. So for me, I was like, I'm

not that guy. I'm gonna leave and I'll be back. But they also had the status of who I was too, so I knew that as well. So do what you gotta do. So I left. He called me, get your ass on the plane. We go on the wall. I think we was washing pre season. He didn't start me. He put me in with the goddamn scrubs, bro Will Willing and everybody hot dogs on sideline and ship. So he puts me in. So now all the guys on the other side, they're really going, you know, they trying

to make thee. I'm getting cut and all out, like man, you know, they Willing. It was clown and laughing. Right. So we comes back and next day he had to come in on Monday. I didn't even take my stuff off. I was at the I was at the table eating breakfast, steal my clothes on. You know. Bill came, but I would the envelope. He said to me, like fucking asshole. So I was like, open up the check. Eighty five thousand adopted me three days freaking Bill, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

that's Bill for you. Though. Yeah, he dopped me this fucking three days man. So I mean, but we like said, we got a great relationship and the respect from there, But it was just at the time I wasn't the one. I made sure that she was clear though. Man, but you gotta you gotta put your foot down sometime. Now.

him that he told me. He told me I was gonna be the first first round of the NFL history. You get cut in training camp, Like, what the that You're gonna be the He called me to the side. He's like, listen, right now, you're working on being the first first round or in the history of the NFL. To get cut in the middle of training camp I'm sitting there like in my stupid ass, you know at the time, you know, just being me from out coball like, well, do what you gotta do, you know, come on, whoop

all the ad do what you gotta do. Stupid, you know what I mean. But that's just that, that's that's just who I was, you know what I mean. And then eventually, you know, he was like, uh man, he was the bestie, but he always rolled me. And it was one particular game where now it established myself as kind of a physical and aggressive, and he was like, you know what, you got everybody scared of you out there, right,

but this week this guy's gonna kick your ass. So he was talking about Michael Irving was going down to play the Dallas Cowboys and Michael Irvan I think he had just hit you know, Like I said, Nias Williams the one of the greatest, you know what I mean, look up to Nia's trained women. But he gave he gave Nias the business, you know what I mean. It was like nine catches something like like two hundred some

yards and shit, I'm like damn. So Parcelles challenged me saying, if he do that, didn Nias Williams because he said, you're damn sure knowing Nias Williams. You know that's what Parceles told me. He gonna kick your ass. But guess what I'm putting you on him? You know you think you good? So man when out there ended up having two picks. You know, think got Defensive Player of the Week all that stuff. But I wasn't even thinking about

playing you know, Michael and the challenge him. I was sitting there thinking I got to prove Parceales wrong for fucking with me. You know, I'm gonna show you that I'm not the one. And I had to take it out on Michael at the time, you know what I mean, That's how my mentality was. But Belichick, you know that's

how he got the best out of here. Belichick, He's gonna sit you down because he was my dB coach, which I loved, by the way, because you had to do the least amount of studying when he's your coach. Because he done did it all. Everything that he say is going to happen is going to happen. It's going to be one of two things. And what I really fell and loved with the way he coached. He was my dB coach. We're playing the Saints. He said, look, if they line up in this formation, tight end, here

guy on the top of the numbers. If he's lined up on the top of the numbers, he's going to do a curl. And my thing was, I didn't want to be on the wrong any highlights. What if you run a curl and go, He's not going to do it. If you run a curl and go, it's on me. So I said, shit, seeing a formation is coming, damn Sure enough, he did exactly that, came in, jumped in

front of it, pick and it was like shit. So now when we're moving, Belichick had you in such a great position mentally that you went into the game so confident and saying that if anything happens, put it on him. But guaranteed this is going to happen. And that's how he was as a coach. So when he left and came back, we thinking like, that's our boy. Man. Me and lawyer called him illegally, I might add, you know at the time, because we ain't supposed to, you know,

contact him and stuff like that. But that was our guy, that was our coach. So when he came back. Man, we were so happy. And then when Bill walked in, the Bill and were trying to go do like the group hug type of he the head coach. Now I'm like, Bill done got a new chick and got brand new and shit, but they done got brand new. It ain't the same. But now you have to realize, and it took us a minute that he's not our coach anymore.

He's our coach and he has to sit there and you know, treat everything and conduct itself in a certain way. But what he does from a game plan perspective, I've never been with another coach or another organization that is that prepared at all times. And he made you feel comfortable even his adjustments. This is what we're gonna do, Bam. You just gotta be smart. In training camp, we will see shit that we ain't seen in eight weeks. We going back to some training camp. You got to like

what we ain't played that since training camp. But for this particular game or we're going at halftime, he comes back. This is what it is. So I think that separates a Bill from everyone else. It's his adjustments and how he looks at the game. You know what I mean from offense defensively. He used to have to leave to help Charlie Weiss. He would leave our defense to mean we be in our bardamnself. Ain't nobody getting coached because he up just telling the offense what the other defense

is doing. He had to leave the meeting so many times just to go up there and help the offense by looking at the defense. He was that much of a genius when it comes to a football mind. Pete Carroll, I like Pete. Pete gave me the bag. He puss for me to get the back. But he was a dB guy. But I think his personality didn't mesh well with a lot of other guys because we all interviewed. I interviewed because I ain't nobody who's gonna hire a Belichick.

I was like, man, I like Pete. So when they came down Bobby Greer and all that gym, you know scrap, I was like, man. We went to the playoffs, I felt somewhat responsible because I gave up the touchdown. You know what I mean I did. I gave up a touchdown. I was sick to who I think it was one of the best ever. When it comes to me, you know, matching up that Damn Jimmy Smith was an animal bro. I

just want to put that out there. So but Pete Carroll Man, the happy, gold lucky guy that just didn't sit well with the rest of his guys because no matter what, come on, guys, don't you feel it? Don't you feel it? Yeah? You know, he was like that, you know what I mean, coming from parts exactly, yeah exactly. This guy's smacking his gums saying name exactly. It was.

It was a totally different energy, you know. And then you get back to Bill's in that similar similar, more similar to yourselfselves, you know, and Bill, don't be wrong. He wanted outside of business. Me and Bill ain't never had a problem outside of contract and business, you know what I mean. But you got to understand we're all independent contracts. You know that at the end of the day, we're on the team. But when we're talking about this and we have discrepancies about this, he has to work

for himself in the organization. You have to work for yourself as an individual, you know, as eight because hey, it's short lived, you know what I mean. But drink what you're he gonna gonna have a beer? What you're he gonna laugh, have a good time, and that's you know.

know all that you watched us? You? You hear offensive guys asking him stuff, and I'm like, how do you got time to do all this shit and know all this? He's one hundred percent of the cheat sheet, but he's an asshole cheat sheet. But I loved him. He was an asshole. Yeah, but if you if you talk, I've.

coming from a quarterback. You know, how was that transition for you? Like? Who helped you, who inspired you? Did you think you can do it?

take mental reps. When Wes Welker was in front of me. When you know, looking at Randy Moss even though he's a different body type, but being able to see his late hands on a stacking a defender, like these guys are playing through your hands, but you could steal that even though I'm not him, you know, trying to take

from every rep and it was. It was fucking crazy tough, but like because the environment I was in, working hard and doing extra and and living at the facility, that was like that's what I thought was normal.

and I was pissed. And after I heard that, on my outbreaking route I made, I made that same move where I was gonna do like the incut, which the guy undercut.

on the game. Man, brouh Hey, that's commendable, man, it's much respect. I always say that dude's a dog, man, you know what I mean. I said that, dude's a dog. Would love to play with you, man, awesome to play with you. We're gonna go to fuck out in practice. Though, that's also what made me better. Me too, I like that. I like that type of party.

can hey, I was like, man, hell with it. It was something that like it was so some crazy odds and I'm saying like all right, fine, man, I got eleven thousand dollars, damn number I'm putting on. I'm putting it on the element to get the m v P. I don't know, you know, I mean like, you know, because it's like m v P quarterback, he got to really mess it up sometime not to get it. Because if they have any type of decent game, you know

they're gonna get the m v P. Man. So you know, I took a took a chance on your man, putting a couple of dollars down there, got eleven grand about the deal.

after a game. Like the next the following Saturday, I would get two three plays at practice just because it was it was so raw and it was.

hurt now? Man, I don't even know how to catch myself break myself.

can't do nothing around Patton. He had just that type of you know, respect and but me and Troy, I ain't gonna lie. It was sometime we'd be like, man, how you feel the day though? We're going We're going hard today, you know what I mean, And we'll go hard. Sometime we'd be like, yo, man, let's make it look good. Got the buddy system going on, you know what I mean? That depends it all depends on the day. But when it was time to work, you know, it was time to work, man, you know what I mean?

New York. But it was one of those things. And that's what makes the greats great because like after the you know game and Bill, when we were walking into halftime, you know, same thing, he came in, fucking asshole, you know, just as a joke, you know, you know, still it's still still all love. But Tom, in the next day you're like, what did you see? And I'm like, I got play with your ass full out on line. Why would you do the same thing? You know on me? Like it was a movement, cause it was one of

those plays where it was givings. First of all, it was ain't about to run past me anyway, even though I was, even if I was, you know, I don't worry about him running past you know, what I mean. But he did one of those short motions, and you know how come half we start our way out there. I knew it was gonna be an outcut. And soon as I say, Tom looked the other way and gave that you know that it was like a little fake. It was a half ass fake, which that was not

like you're coming off really throwing the ball. So as he did that, I just stopped in my tracks. I said, oh, he coming right here, and and he threw it, you know what I mean. And so I told him that, but it really bothered him and it messed with him, and he called me because, like I said, it was great, you know, always the friendship and the love is still there.

And like Peyton, same thing. We gets over to the Pro Bowl, Peyton gonna try to fill you up with damn drinks, you know, but guess what, it's some football coming. So so what did you think? And I'm like, man, I ain't stupid Payton. I'm still from the hood, don't get I know. I know what you're doing. I mean, you're like, look at all these girls out here, and but katies and ship, we ain't talking about no football, man.

on this one man? And I respect it, you know, always trying to get that always always trying to get this receiver to cover Y Smith, I say, Jimmy Smith, because man, he was so strong, he was so fast, and like, you know, I considered myself that a bully because I ain't trying to run with you all day if I ain't got you, even though I can, but I rather sit and fight. So you know, they talk about matchups. Jimmy Smith was one of those guys that you can't, you know, intimidate because he can run as

fast as any receiving the league. He was strong, he was tough, you know what I mean. So that one right there is like you knew that you had to come to work, you know. And I love to play against him because it was a great challenge. The people that I didn't like to play against all the time is people like yo, ass, they just running just quick, you know, for no damn reason, like you know, like they just running. And then the option routes. Oh man, that inside the option route. I'm trying to get you

right now. But that kind of stuff right there too. Small guys. It's like, man, give me a big guy, give me, give me, give him, give me Keyshawan, give me, give me Moss, you know what I mean, give me, give me something like that, you know, Michael Irving, I like Jay Rice, I like that, But chasing guys like you, man, sh it man, I hated that. Who is your favorite cornerback watching when you're a kid? Always prime, you know

what I mean? But you said, tell me. He he Dion Sanders, you know, and you know, just a great, just great dude. You know overall you seeing when he's doing, how he's impacting young lives. But he was the greatest you know, cornerback that ever played the game. You know, in my opinion, that's who you know, that was, you know, our Michael Jordan when it comes to football and playing cornerback. But the reality is I didn't have Deon Sanders speed,

you know what I mean. So you know one of my favorite dbs who I kind of like, say, if I had to pattern my game off of who I looked at, it was Rod Woodson. Rod Woodson was the real deal. He was fast. Hell wasn't that fast either, but you know, he put his nose in there in the tackling and you know, he just played the game like you know, especially growing up in Pittsburgh, you know what I mean, I know was good. Rod Woodson was

that guy, you know what I mean? So next to Deon Salmers who had everything and we're talking about pure just cover guys that made our position popper, that made you know, us get paid like that because I was right after him when he signed that fifty million dollar deal. You know, at the time, defensive players, especially cornerbacks, used used to be the lowest paid, and he changed the dynamic of what a cornerback is. And when he got that, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I mean, let me I

got to get some of that. Hell yeah, on contract negotiation jewels man. So it's Andy Watson Chuck, my agent, and you know, I guess he went to the bathroom. So they were trying to, you know, say take dionis exemp. Let's leave that contract because they try to tell you, oh, it was back loaded. It wasn't the you know, I'm playing dumb. All I said was fifty million dollars on TV. I say fifty million. I know how contracts work. But they were trying to say the structure bullshit. I say

fifty million dollars. Fifty Yeah, that's what I said. So my agent called me when I was gonna. I didn't even want to, you know, go in there. He's like, look, just come in here and be tyl. All Damma, just come in here and be tyl. I said, okay, I come in and then you know he going through it and what we're thinking about. We think like Dale Carter signed this six years. You know, we're thinking somewhere along those lines and we can give you this a couple

hundred I said. I said, Dale Carter and deal Carter. Mind you was a goddamn animal. I'm a beast, but it was thirty six million, fifty million. I seen fifty. Now I'm talking to Andy. I said, look here, man, I don't know where y'all come, but Dale Carter. I was like, you know, I'm in my fourth in the league. They already been there. I was like, man, I could

do that. My name sleep man. We ain't doing it, even though it's not like that, because he was a freaking as we talking shit, and I was like, Deon Sanders did this, That's what I seen. And I was like, look, I ain't claim to be Deon Sanders, but I'm prime time round this motherfucker right here. That's what I told Andy. I said, I ain't done. I ain't claimed to be deone Sander, but I'm prime time around this mother. I said. You know what, Carl, I said, if this man, I

don't even eat be it. I just got up ship off and I'm like, what fuck is? I go back and sit my car, and Carl came out about thirty forty minutes later. He just got in the car. He just like this, give me five and that's it. Then next thing you know, you know, they went into it and it still wasn't there. Because I had just wanted I said, I wanted ten. That was the kind of the market if you get there. It was like, and Carl was like, hold on, give me another way. I said, Carl,

we're in training camp. So now were covered and lawyer Lloyd we was going. We crashed and like it was a dig, right, I was covering. Lawyer hit me and a player. I thought, I blew my knee out. I was scared. I was like, oh shit, got up. I was all right. I was playing timid somewhat in practice out there because I really thought, because you go across there with lawyer, lawyer gonna knock shit out of you. Man. He was one of the most aggressive you know safeties

that you know I ever play with. Man, the dude was tough, man, you know what I mean, Like not very big in stature, but he hit like a dad linebacker. He would light your ass up. So you know what, two weeks later, like a week or so after that instance that happened, then two days later, you know, he I was ready to sign. There was like ten six. I like, deal sign it. He like, I got him. Hold on, I said, you're getting greedy. Carl, Come on, mate, ship I'm good. Man called me. The next day. So

we had the day off. I'm up in Boston on Boston Street. You know, God, his mom. We up there kicking and I'm gonna do a little shopping on the off day. He said, you ready. I was like, what we got it done? I'm like, he said, you buck it up. I'm like, shit, I am now what man? He told me what it was. And at the time, it was seven years, you know, for fifty and I'm sitting like, what's the sign of bones? That's that's when it was the fourteen I threw that ship and park

I got out. I was all over the street, shite recognition. I jumped out the dead car. What's wrong? What's wrong? What's good? Hey? Man? I was overjoyed, man, because you worked so hard to say to your family and at that time, you know, I mean, that was a that was a big deal. But now you know, it's the standard to live up to when you're getting that type

of contract. When you sit there saying that, you know, you got a contract to the equivalent of even though you're talking that shit you wanted, but now the reality set in, Okay, you got to live up to that contract. You got to live up to that if you the prime time around. Look, you know that I'm talking. You feel me, so I have to Hey, guess what it worked yourself out now? Prime set the bar, he said, the bar bro Who what corners are you watching nowadays?

Saying that they're damn they're good? Stepan. I always like Stefan, even when he was a picture. I know he's getting older, but he's working on his Hall of Fame resume, you know, right now. But I mean, I think somebody that can go out there and play with anybody. I think Stefan Gilmour is still, you know, one of the better cornerbacks. But you got guys like, you know, Giant here, Alexander Ward, Jalen Ramsey is you know he can play you know

he can play ball. But I still don't see anybody right now that I can look at and say, who's following the best guy all over the field. They're not doing that anymore. I'm like, you know, that's when you want to get get games change, game change when you ask for that type of money. But if you're a starter right now, you can you can ask for that type of month because that's where the market is at. But when we were playing, when Dion was able to jump and say that because he was Deon Sanders, he

did stuff that everybody don't do. And when I said that, I'm prime time right here, not saying that I'm Deon Sanders, but for what we do and for you know, me to be going to the number one receiver game in game out, you know, no matter what the defense was played, you know what I mean. He I know I'm going to Keishawn. I know I'm going to Wayne on the

third down, so I'm changing. I know I got Marvin that I wouldn't even sit there and mess with Reggie, not saying that Reggie Redgewaying is a you know, a Hall of Famer himself, but at that time they would even I ain't even waste my time over there, because hell, I got to handle this over here. And like I said, Reguating was just coming to his own. So I got that. We go play Sam Fran pick your pois. You got jay Rice, then you get to O. You know what I mean, I got I got that. So that's why

I feel like, you know, it's missing Darrell Reeves. He goes to the guy, there's not many of those anymore. Six exactly run that cover six, which is it plays like man, but you get to play with your eyes in the backfield, right, you know what I mean? Because

you have that guy going to that flat zone. Our back was turned to the well, that's why you don't see, you know, as many interceptions or something like that, because our back was turned to the ball because we were here and we're covering you know that guy, you know what I mean? And then you talk about guys like a Champ Bailey and all that. We we went to the top dog no matter what. And I think that's what's missing from the game.

I'm really hitting you, so you can't go. But that was my my little thing because I had to slow you down. I mean, I can't getting no foot race. You know all the time, you know you used to hit guys on them. Yeah, yeah, always, it's always, it's always, it's always angle and try not to open up the gate. So when you open up the gate and they sit there, just go right, and now they donne stacked you. I'm always going to use that sideline as much as I can, you know what I mean. If I can get these

paws on you. I knew I was stronger than most. You know, I might not have been like that in stature, but I knew I was stronger, and once I put my hands on you, it's over, you know what I mean. It was only a very few receivers that can muscle through that, you know what I mean. So from a receiver standpoint, it was a little different. Now when I can imagine if I happen to go against ground, you know, and I try to have to use more quickness. Now I would have took the challenge. I would have loved

the challenge. But like being coached to get around him brew buh bru man, I'm telling you, he was a monster. You know he was. He was big as strong, country strong, you know what I mean. So I kind of grew up and learned in that era where you got the tough receivers, the big tight ends, and then the quick guy. So every week it was something a little different for me. I tell you right now, the receivers right now are

pretty damn good though. You look at it, like but at the same time, you can't can't, you can't hit him and all that. So you look at Jamar Chase like that dude is like, you know, run you. He's he's strong, country strong, Cincinnati. Yeah, I know what I'm saying. He's the best as a receiver. You look at him and I just think he's He's just got a lot of everything. He can. He can fifty to fifty ball you, he can route you, he can out quit you, justin Jefferson,

the same thing these guys. But you can't you can't hit him like he used to. Yeah, and it's harder to play.

ray Lewis ed Reed. I mean it was the game was a little.

is watered down. It's one thing with the quarterbacks, because they're the face and all that you need a quarterback. Everybody knows that, you know, protect them, but everybody else on the damn field, man, it just you rid of that folk. They got rid of the drop the drop hit drop tackle. Yeah, you know where you you get a guy from behind, you just drop your weight. They're gonna it's gonna make a fun They're gonna make that

a penalty. How you supposed to Now if you pick them up and supplex them, that's a penalty too, right.

to make money that way. And I, like I said, I understand the game, but I think you know when you're starting to let so many other outside forces because it's the bottom line. And like I said, I understand business as a businessman, but come on, man, it's taking it's taken away from the game. Man ships the ship soft for twenty years, you would have played for twenty years. Nowadays, as much as it's taken away from the game, the

ratings are up twenty three percent last year. From a players standpoint, I mean, guess what, you know why too, Because everybody betting, they're trying to see what they betsy is. They probably ain't the people's watching, not true football fans to guess what they're betting on it. So guess what, I'm trying to follow my money and see I'm gonna get paid. So it's like the casinos. They not making money from the food and all that good ship you

see in at the restaurants, liquor and all that. They making money by you going to the table and guess what the sports books you're getting fans that's watching the game because they trying to watch their money because now you can bet on it. That means it's gonna automatically it's gonna be a snowball in there and next say it's at the bottom line. But the guys are getting paid a lot more money, which is great. I mean, I'm all for it, but I don't like, like, for instance,

a defensive back. And this is where it's a little personal to me. If you're if you're running the route. This is Julian Edeman. He quick as a goddamn cat. So if you come across the middle and you catch the ball, I got, let you get two feet on the ground before I hit you. See, I mean, when the game is going so bad, I mean it's like you got to put feet down and have possession. Randy Moss, he too got damn fast, and the game moves too fast. I'm running fast. He running fast. So guess what I

was taught. If you touch the ball, I knocked the shit out of you as soon as you go like this. That's how we learned to play the game. So to have to stop that and have to not go full tilt and the risk of getting fine and risk losing money. I think it's taking away the game from a player's perspective, but I understand.

to twenty pounds. Needs to Yeah, he needs to. It's just the kid's nineteen, right, I mean, wait until he's twenty four, twenty five. Who's your NBA team?

like say, who is a dog? Sometime time? You can be skillful, you can be tall, fast, god given, but when you have a dog, that's who I love playing with. And when I watched Alan Everson, Kobe Bryant, you know, Jordan, not only were they great, there was actually some damn dogs, you know they you know, like Rodney Harrison dog dog dog. Yeah.

adversity strikes you still don't drop your head. And you got that mentality that I'm gonna beat you this play. If you beat me, oh the next play, Oh it's own, do it again? You know what I mean? So that's what like we're looking up right there. Kevin Garnett dog dog, all time dog. What's rushmore of dogs? WHOA that's tough, that's tough, I would say, you know, okay, let's just throw out a couple from me sports. Lawrence Taylor dog dog one that just retired, Aaron Donald that is a dog,

Ray Lewis dog. Rodney Harrison dog. You know what I mean? Because I'm telling you I'll say here because Rodney Harrison is supposed to be in a Pro Football of Fame. No, no, no, okay, no, he's Jimmy Smith dog, Julian Edelman dog. And not just because of you know, I looked at the journey to Okay, you can make plays, you can do all this stuff, but to know how tough he was to be able to go out there and do that and go out

there and do what I do. I told Troy Brown, you got me fired, dog, I got hurt Troy Brown playing dB you know, and and did some dog ship picking stuff. He led the league, he led the team and picks you know, you know what I mean. So when you guys, when you guys come in and do that and can do more than just your job, and you do it with so much passion, and you're successful because no one expected you to be who you are.

Maybe you expected it, but when you got drafted, or did you get drafted, Okay, you went seven round, damn it. That's basically a free agent bosh. But you're a free agent because you don't have to do two years huh exactly. But no one expected you or they brought you in. They didn't expect you to turn into the only person that can believe that as a dog. And you got to believe in yourself because basically, when you get drafted that late, you're coming from another position. You're basically there

for a tackling dummy. You're there forgot. You're there for guys like somebody established like myself, to beat up on the exactly so for you to make it. You know, you a dog right there, and then to put it out there and perform, and then you had some of the top corners out there that didn't want to see him. So that right there, you fit in the dog. Tom Brady was a dog dog because from day one he came in there and he wanted to compete. He gonna talk shit, and I'm telling him we used to light

him up. But he coming right back at you as a dog on head, bunch you. He gonna fight you. And that wasn't the quarterback that we've seen before.

I look at like receivers like again, Hye's Ward was a dog. He wasn't fast, he wasn't it, but he will sit there and rock you. You know, he will blindside the ship out at you too. So you always got to keep your head on the swivel. So I look at at the tough guys, even even you know, like I said t o Randy Moss was a dog, you know what I mean, because he was tough. Chris Carter, Michael Irvin, he will fight you all damn day too,

you know what I mean. So I look at so many tough guys, but like just skill everybody and a dog man are.

You could be born into it. To shirt that shirt developed. It's a tie log teacher, right. I develot time and you get that confidence and then it's like when you realize that you got to believe in yourself. That was my whole thing, was always believing in myself with no matter what anybody thinks. That's that's what a dog is.

attitude is hell. I can cover jay Rice, Random, mas Teo, Marvin Harrison, damn it, I can cover Tito's ass. Too much respect to Tito for real, man, because his story is incredible, but it's inspiring in a way. But you can't be afraid to go out there and give it a shot if you believe in your product, you know which I believe more so than anything. I know my product is good, you know what I mean. So if you put liquid the lips, you put it in there. You ain't going nowhere else, I promise you.

yeah so but co VP. So it was myself in Key Sean. And ain't no cost sponsors behind that. Hell, we got us a goddamn plaque. Man, I'm like, what a car? You know what I mean? What no cost? But I'm always like a little short end of the stick, even though like the Super Bowl, right, you know, people according to the papers, you know, not taking any thing, wait from from goat Brady. But I was supposed to be an that's what they say it, right, that's the

first year that they went on the internet. Came up short, but got defensive Player of the game. Yeah where Brady got a car? Disney World? You know what I got goddamn Belover Watch Blover, Blover b you blow over Yeah, yeah, I got I got me one of them. Defensive That's what I'm saying. So I'm always playing a little dollar short. The year I got super VP was the first year they didn't give cars cap yours either. No car. You got the plaque. Now I got that ball, silver ball

where right there? That that silver ball, that's you, Bullship, that Tiffany. Tiffany's nice hand show ball. But you called it. You signed and tell Tom to sign it, man ship. I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna tell Tom to sign anything signed that right there, Sign that right there, now you know what I mean. But then they have a car sponsor.

difference in the checks, you know what I mean. You mean, you go from twelve thousand to twenty five thousand, So hey were trying to get that twenty five geez back then because he's playing tickets and all that. She was a lot of money bringing to everybody over day, you know what I mean.

only the second year of the AFC South. Colts were in the AFC East before that, so we had plenty of see We had plenty of time seeing Peyton Manning before that. And this was also a year oh three Peyton Manning where he still kind of had that rep of a guy that couldn't really get it done in the playoffs. Oh in three record entering this game in playoff games, even though he didn't win MVP this year, going VP that.

he was doing, you know. And of course you look at how many you know, Hall of famers, you know, they got up there, you know what I mean, it's like, come on, man, and they got they got all the love they got, they got they got to love man. So we we used that as energy. We thought we were the better team. We thought we were tougher. They were more you know, I guess they was more of a finess team. But we always tried to look at us as a tough team, you know, man, exactly, exactly exactly,

and that's what it was. And you knew they were going to put the game all the time in Peyton's hand. So as defensive backs, we love, we love to take that challenge. So that means if they put it in your hands, you got to be whipping my hands. So that's how I was like, no, that it's time to play. What were the keys to stopping Peyton, you know what?

Switching it up? You know, as far as like the looks even though Peyton is smart enough and no, no enough as a as a quarterback, that we messing with him, just like he messed with us. Like he coming up there doing all these handsickens half the time, ain't saying ship, you know, and say omaha, what is home omaha mean? But we we would just start hollering out dumb ship too. We'll holler at omaha. We'll holler out beef jerky, yeah, something, you know, just to you know, try just a combatant

combat right. But for me, I've never in my fifteen years of playing and ever was threatened by a quarterback. I took a different approach and I always respected it. I mean, I don't care if we're playing against Aaron Rodgers, Payton Manning, Damn Marina, whoever it was. I'm like, I gotta worry about you. I'm covering you. So if I got you covered, what the hell I got to worry about? You know them folk? If they a so, I'm doing my job right here. A lot of people get caught

up into the quarterback. But if you got the receiver cup, he has to do a perfect ball if I'm draped all over you. So I was never threatened by a quarterback because I had enough to worry about, you know, covering the receiver and the only quarterback that I've ever played to where he made you think like, damn he different, Damn Marino. He was the only quarterback that I know that can place the ball at least from my experience, somewhere where the receiver got the best chance to catch

and I couldn't. He was He was that guy as far as that for me, perfect pass, the perfect pass is uncoverable, right, And he was the only one that can do it like that. And then he didn't have a whine up. Dan was like, you know, he was able to just short arm inflect that thing and you had to pick it up. So when I got my first pick off of then, man, I found his ass after the game. Man. You know, I was a Pittsburgh guy. I had him sign that ball. Man. I was a

fan boy. It was my second year league. I mean, mister Marino, could you sign? He was a good sport. I still got the super Bowl at dinner? Cool? Yeah, man is cool Dan, It's cool as hell. Man. He was just chilling. Yeah, you know, great, great player. I even my first NFL interception was off you know, a great you know, Jim Kelly. But when I got that one off of Damn Marino. Like I said, being a Pittsburgh guy, I was like, man, I was not getting on that plane back to New England until I get

this ball signed. That's crazy because I remember, you know by the end, that's what guys are doing to Tom if they picked him. Oh yeah, hell yeah yeah. You know that's some crazy legend for people to have the balls. Yeah, to take the ball that you picked off of exactly. I mean you gotta shoot your shot, yeah, I mean you got to. I mean, and then, but it's also

a sign, you know, a respect. And I knew I was getting old when when we were playing I think he was playing Tennessee and playing against one of the young guys. I don't even know who he was, you know. And after the game he caught like a little bullshit but was no touchdown, nothing like daddy. He wanted me to sign it for him, talking about Man, I had you on my wall man this and that. I'm like, Ship, I'm getting old. It's time to go, you know what

I mean. I'm getting old When you got somebody that was a little kid and telling you that you were on the wall and all that stuff, and it's like, man, you want to sign it like a little yeah seven yeah, a little seven eight yards yeah that yeah. Now, can you imagine if Dan Marino played in this generation, you got to be a little mobile in this generation. Now, Damn Renal, you know, the big ass cleats. His might have been bigger than Tom right there. He was like, yeah, exactly.

But his arm talent was incredible though. I mean people, you know, yes, man, when you talk about pure you know throwers, you know, and accuracy, Damn Marino was. Damn Marino was that dude. I've really never picked off a ball that hurt your hands like Drew Blest or Drew Bless who had one of the strongest, you know arms. Like he was like, no, I didn't get far far, they't mess with me. We was at the super Bowl when we played him in ninety six, and you know, Antonio,

good friend. He's like, you know, before the game, you know, we just sized each other up, warmed up, and Frame was like, yo, you you ain't gonna get no action today. In my second year, I'm sitting there like, oh, he about today about to try to set my ass up. So now I'm really on guard, you know, and show enough that whole game, you know, Brett, And then Brett came out before that. He was like, all, you ain't get no action to I guess young Buck, you know too,

you ain't gonna get no action to day. So I'm still thinking coming from Freeming him, they're trying to set me up showing up. He didn't mess with me. You know, it's crazy.

we'll give you a shell. But you know, Bruski and them, you got to give those guys so much, you know, credit, because you know, not only did they protect the run, you got the great Edger and James up there, them running up the scene with those tight ends and that was calling those guys. It's like, bro Bruski had a hell of a job trying and then trying to keep

my ass right. He trying to make sure everybody else right do his job, you know what I mean, Man, Teddy Bruski was an all time great man, all the time.

running around, he talking all kinds of ship. But now we had we had Tom Brady, you know what I mean, and that and now by that time, you know, it was when he was with us. You know, first that's Tom Brady. You know who he started to be in that time. Come Tom mother fucking Brady. That's a difference. See we had like you, we had Tom Brady. You had Tom motherfucking Brady. See that, that's who he was

that at that time. So when you have that, and we knew if we stayed in here, you're drinking Tom exactly.

Adam Vinit Terry. Yo, Bro, you talking about somebody is like no fear, you know, Like imagine going up there and you just got to take that free throw as easy as it might be to have to take that, all the pressure and everything riding on you. That's why I say they need to bronze Damn Foot like Tom need to have his statue, of course, but they need to have a big ass replica of Adam Van Terry Foot somewhere around on that stadium, you know what I mean,

somewhere Put Adam for real. I mean I didn't even see I mean, after watching the Dynasty, I didn't even know he was on the team. Huh he was.

was a great leader. Like that's the only thing, like I clown a little bit about, you know, his speeches sometime, you know, is that you can't have something to say every day? Got that? I mean sometime we could just go on the fuck home, man, you know what I mean. But that was Lawyer for you man, My brother loved

to death and I was. I was hurt. And then when they brought in Rodney, you know, so now it was that thing because I wasn't the biggest fan of Rodney, you know when he came in, because you know, one, he wasn't with us and respected his game, but he was always the competitor. And what really turned me off from Rodney. And like I said, I didn't even know Roddy like that at the time. I just knew he

was a you know, a hell of a player. But Bill Belichick, he would come in and put on the tape for the DB's and we ain't even playing san Diego. We watching San Diego. Foe. He was like, see this, like seeing what we ain't playing them. It's Rodney Harrison running around like a mad man, just everything he was doing one hundred miles, just knocking a shit out of people. And I'm like, well, what the hell that got to do with us? He said, this is how, this is

how you play. Ain't no fucking loaf in here. And Rodney wasn't like Rodney's in San Diego, you know what I mean, he ain't get here yet. So I remembered that, you know, I'm sing, and they're like, man, f Rodney Harrison, Man, fuck him, you know what I mean. And when he came, you know, it's like, okay, now he's part of the team.

You know, you see him play much respect whatever. But then they let Lawyer go, so then that went back to where it's like, hold on, man, he came in here with that bullshit and now they even cut my brother this and that. But Rodney was just one of those type of guys that man, you had to respect you. He earned it, he earned it, but man, and he didn't need to earn anything from me. He was already Rodney Harrison, but to see his work athlete, his practice habits,

and he made you step your game up. And then when you're out there on the field with him, you'd be like, oh my god, this is different. You know. It's like for instant, your example, Lawyer, I'd be like, Lawyer, I see this, I'm about to jump this shit. He was like, you paid all that money. Cover that motherfucker. That's lawyer with holidays. You can you get paid all that money? Cover that mother I'm saying, I see someone jumping. Rodney. Hey, Rodney,

I see this man. He's like, got you go go go take it, take it, you know what I mean. It was just that type of Dynamic's like lawyer was ready to go knock the hell out of something and he will put it. So it was a great dynamic. I could have just imagined if we can all play together, man, with Lloyd Malloy and Rodney Harrison, you're talking about no flies on. You couldn't go nowhere but Rodney Harrison. You know, like I said, it was one of the greatest to

ever play the game. And like I said, he should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I want to say that here right now, because I've been saying that forever. There's only two guys in the history of the game that got thirty picks in thirty sacs, Ray Lewis being one of them. We praised Ray for being, you know, the all time great, you know, the goat, but somebody did it before him, and his name is

Rodney Harrison. He did it first, but he don't get the same admiration or anything for that particular stat And if you look at the stats with all the Hall of Famers, Rodney Harrison is right there with every safety that's in the Hall of Fame right now and getting looked over for what reason, I don't know. But one of the best that I ever played with Monster. I mean, we heard about how hard he practiced ruh and and Bill and Bill loved it. But he made you step

your game up, you know what I mean. So Rodney, you know, a respect because you know, you just don't give out anything. Heat sit there and took his respect. And the way he played the game, man, you had to sit there and say hat soft man, and a lot of times you got to follow his lead. Man, that's the type of guy that he was. From a leadership standpoint, the way he played the game. And if I'm gonna go to any foxhole, damn, we're gonna get out with Rodney. Yeah, who's the unsung hero of the

team this year? This year and three oh tomorrow and three I think the unsung hero when you look at all those names, I was, like, I always say, Troy Brown. Troy Brown is just one of those guys that when you need a damn play, Troy is gonna be the one to do it, you know what I mean. And like Troy Brown was an absolute dog, just like yourself. Troy got cut a couple of times, you know, I think twice, and you know after later, you know they've been trying to replace Troy Brown for I don't know

how damn long. But you couldn't, you know, you couldn't throw them away and for him to you know, Like I said, I look at you guys very similar in the way you played the game. As far as being tough, being the dog, it ain't. But you as a receiver that went over to play dB, that came from when you came from, Troy was more of a returner you know as well, and to come play defense and being that tough guy making the plays when it mattered most. Being small in stature, you know, big attitude and crazy

dog when it comes to, you know, competing. That's who I look at it and say, man, Troy Brown did. It wasn't high, wasn't high draft, It wasn't the fastest guy, wasn't the biggest guy. We caught him little dude, you know what I mean, that's the Troy's name, Little dude, little dude to whooped that ass. You know, don't sleep on it. Troy. He's always been any classacked dude, absolutely

class Absolutely, he was always around as a coach. But you know he would always we'd always have a connection just because you know, he knew what I was going through. And you know he mean connects you on that play because he went through it. I'm telling you. They tried so many times to replace him or bring somebody else in the Troy always ended him. It's kind of like

OLDA Smith, same thing. Yeah, you know, olda Smith. He was a great mentor to me, you know, one of like like I wouldn't be the player that I am without you know, a guy like OLDA Smith that's taking me under the wing and telling me, you know what to do, how to be a pro jack. Let's let's see this game lead off, lead up to this game.

The Patriots hadn't lost in Week four playing the Redskins, so they were just on a roll. And this was the first playoff meeting between the Patriots and Indy, the first of many, which is crazy. Brady Brady owned the Colts up until this point. It's worth noting six and oh in uh, it starts against the Colts to this point.

in a long time. You don't. It don't come all the time, I tell you that day lying, But that particular game, I didn't care who you threw out there in front of me. I just had a feeling that, you know, you just got that glow like Bruce Leroy up in this month, I heard I heard the NFL planned this thing in the football this game. It was called the ugly Finder, So whoever had the most it was just the ball would find the ugly guy them.

I love that hip. I love But you know what, like you said, we're always one little, one day short, one week short. Why could I do that in Super Bowl? You know what I'm saying. You found Like I mean, I'm glad that it happened though, so we got in the duble. But I mean that's the kind of game, the game that you want to feel and you want to have in the Super Bowl.

put it up there and that just that just started everything. Man.

line at the time. And so Bobby, of course, you know, come being Bobby getting up in my face, and now you know, you know that's where the oupha was coming at. So you know, I'm about to go at it, you know, with his ass, you know, three hundred pounds ass. But I was like, man, I ain't. That's when the al equipper come out. There ain't no bitches around here now, would let let's go, you know, So we started going

at it. Didn't he come out of the line, and here come to DB's knowing that we can't beat them, you know what I mean. From besides, especially when Willie's big ass come up in there, you know, what I mean, you know what I mean, Yeah, exactly, Debo come up in there. But it was just one of those things that that's how we were, you know what I mean. So you expected me to do my job. He was protecting his d lineman by coming at me saying, God,

damn it, call out the crack, you know what I mean. Yeah, I could have called out the crack, you know, and I think I did. He might not have heard it. But if I didn't and he didn't hear, it's still, you know, my fault. But you are not to come in here and that like you, my mama. I'm a grown ass man, so you're gonna talk to me with a certain type of you know, respect, And that's how it was. But that's just how we did. But guess what what we're doing after practice? Where we're going, you

know what I mean? Where we drinking that and it's all love, you know what I mean. We will sit there, we can go to blows on the sideline in the practice. I'm talking about, be some real scratch man. Afterwards. Man, it's all love. Were eating wings and drinking.

come into the yard. He tried to pick on, pick on the big guy. I'm the guy with the name right, So he came right at me hard all day, you know what I mean, And we got into it and I had to twist him up a little bit. But after practice I had to give him some love, man, because look, he trying to make the team. I'm already established. He's a free agent, you know, basically just got an opportunity because like he went to Brown, he earned everything. Man. So I look at Sean mulray or he was a

dog because he wasn't afraid to come at me. You know, sometime if you want a guy, you go out the wrong guy, you're gonna get cut now. Sean, man, he always gonna have my respect. And I haven't ever got to tell him this in person outside of the time afterwards the practice. It was good man. I had to, you know, you know, buy him a beer. Man. I said, man, you keep working, bro, and keep working. You gotta respect guys like that, got it. I mean that those are the I was one of those guys, you know, I

had to do that kind of ship. Yeah, but can you walk us through beat for beat? The pick six, he's an easy one, that was. That was one of the easy you know, you know picks like because I always give credit to Rabel. You know, Rabel, you know, made him Aaron flow. It was one of those things where you know, he did the same thing that Indy used to do and start putting Marvin in motions. So they put Isaac in motion so I couldn't get him

at the line of scrimmage. And it was one of those places you had to back off, you going to motion and you just seen it, you're coming. Rabel got through so clean that okay, now I'm just reading him. And then it was an Aaron throw. So I said, I'm gonna be Hesitan case Isaac because he had an Isaac can route. He would rap the hell out of you. So it's like, okay, you're playing for the double move. It might be because I didn't know because he wasn't going in motion like that until then. So I was

kind of trying to feel it out. So what type of games is gonna be? And Rabel came in there and he wind back the thought. I'm like, you bullshit, he dude, it come on, man, come on, Kirk, you know what I mean. And it was coming like it was slow motion. I was sitting like, oh, this is the super Bowl. That's the kind of shit you dropped because it's so easy. It's so easy and rop it.

But you know, once I got it, man, all you seen was flashes and it was like everything would blank, you know, and you know it's like you hear the screens and it just went silent, and I'm running down there and just flashes and knowing that this is it, you know, in the super Bowl, and got that pick and the rest we rolle the hell out of it, you know what I mean. We wrote the hell out

of that thing man. The hand that's just like I don't even know what I was doing, you know, I just I just it's super I just clew it up, you know what I mean. It's something that I've never done before in any of my picks or my pick six. I didn't throw it up. It was just something that just happened and I threw it up there and it's been the iconic picture ever since, so damn iconic. Insane. Oh man, let's get back into this game real quick. You guys start off hot. You guys started off hot,

did you? But you knew it wasn't it wasn't going to be over because of Peyton Manning, right. I mean you think about the people that they had on it. Look at their skill, guys. You got Edrin James, Hall of Famer, you know a lot of Hall of Famers with the whole lot little rint mount of rings. Yeah, a whole lot of Yeah, we got a lot of rings exactly. But you talk about some some some true some true dogs, you know what I mean, And that's

what they had. I was like, Edrin James can play Marvin, you know, I mean, he wasn't like like a tough guy, but Marvin, he's gonna god damn compete, you know what I mean. I read a story that he didn't need to chase someone down for rent money once. Oh you know what, you know what? Yeah? He was he was. He was a quiet guy. He didn't talk a lot, you know, he wasn't like, you know, you know those

guys I want to sit and hang out with. Oh yeah, you know what, you know what, so saying he's not a dog, I was saying that from being a vocal you know, most receiver ship talkers, you know, like like, uh, you know, Isaac, He'll you could be warned up, He'll walk through your ship. He was that guy trying to get into you. Joe Horner talker, O Joe a talker,

you know what I mean. Even though they was tough, you know what I mean, and great players, but it was something different about somebody that's willing to fight you and not try to just get in your head. It's like, you know, I ain't got to do a lot of talking. So yeah, you know, he was that type of guy. But you look at their offensive skill position and their guys. Man, it's like god damn. So it's never over. It's never

over with them. And we knew that, and we was giving it all all the week got and of course Peyton Manning, you give him enough opportunities, he's going to make some plays. So you always got to respect your opponent and letting and know that they're going to make some plays too. Now you didn't play any special teams, Uh no, you know you're really good for I played

my first year, you know what I mean. But then what we did take pride in and if Troy needed us, me and Lawyer, we love to be the gunner, like the guys that hold up there. That was that was that was, that was us on the avice. So my thing, we would always try to like the guys on the side. You guys score seventeen points with special teams, Hey, we try to knock the gator right down. That was the goal. So when we're out there as the gonna we line

up insight. We want you to go outside the roger there, but you can get no, not just get him out of bounds. Were trying to knock over the gatorade. So that was the goal, to try to get them in the gator rade, you know what I mean. And we got a couple of people like that, you know, through the years, we lock them up. We trying to knock y'all's fucking drinks down, you know what I mean, And

especially if we was on that sideline. But that was pretty much the only special teams kickoff, did that, and you know how you're supposed to go down there, and and I was never like the wedge guy. I was always want to call him fold as soon as they kick it. No, you've got to go down there phone so I could come in the back. I'm not going down there that you You tougher to me, Bro, you

hear about this new thing. I think they're gonna go to that new XFL shit, what is I I couldn't I couldn't follow it.

But do you feel like that they took away from you specifically when you were doing more to returners when they start changing these rules. No, they haven't really changed punt Well I'm talking about the kickoff, the.

punt returns. I had two called back. That's it. You had two called back? Damn. Oh wow.

it out. It's like they think the forty or the thirty, it's some big ass numbers. So they're they're trying to make it where you want to kick it in the kick zone, which is the twenty to the goal line. It's fucking weird. It's like some wow in theory.

thing up, but uh gotta stop. Adam knocked through a field goal put us up twenty four to fourteen to ice that game. And uh it's became the second NFL game without a punt, crazy, right, no punts in this thing?

New England goes on to beat the Panthers in the Super Bowl thirty sevens right, second super Bowl in three years, pretty much starting to get that dynasty talk, dynasty talk, dynasty talks coming. Uh.

at that. Tony Dungee was awesome, Like Tony that you that you want to play for, you know, and he played the game. You know, Bill coached him.

her so her. It's like it's a little bit different when they play. So Tony Dungeon he played at the at the highest level, you know what I mean. So it was just one of those you know things that you know when I went there, it was such a difference playing like Belichick, he can see it, he can know it and all that stuff. But saying they didn't experience it, they didn't experience that speed and that you know,

and what's really going on out in the field. So sometime as a young player, you know, and that's as a player in general, you know now that do you understand what's really going on out here? Do you see that man over there? Do you see the freak that damn Randy Moss t O and all you do you see that? But herm will let you know real quick. You know, I got I got thirty, I got thirty three, thirty six somethingdy, He'll let you know it. And he got thirty plus in this league. So you ain't about

to sit there and tell him, you know what's gonna happen. Hey, Man, love love her Man. HER's funny. Oh speech as ever. Man. I mean we watched him on the ESPN. Yeah, he's funny, hilarious. Eric little Bill, Yeah, we called we called you little Bill. Yeah, a little little Bill told on the teacher. That's what

I'm saying. I'm like, but you know when I went to first time, my first stint with the Jets, Yeah, no, it was the second, you know, the first stint was with her, and then I went back again, you know, after I left Kansas City and I went to the Jets second time. That was you know, man, Jeanie was there. So you were there during all the spy games, huh Man. I was there late because I came in like at week eight. You know what I mean. I was. I was I was ratted Daddy out and then he was

daddy No way. I was there. I was there with the I think I was new. What year was that I was still in New England? Was seven? Oh? No, I was gone, you know, I was what I was in Kansas City. I came back in eight, so, you know, but just going there and with Eric, because now now we had a different time Like when I went to the Pro Bowls Eye, I always always bring Eric because he's a dbe coach of his family and we'll go over so we had a different type of bond of connection.

So I should just try to tell him just be you. I think when people leave Belichick, they try to be Bill, you know what I mean. It's like, no, it's only it's only one Bill. So I think even with Josh, I was there with that spike exactly. But it's like that's why I didn't. I didn't even know. But you know, Eric, he was like, hey, I know where all the bones buried.

You know, that's that's what they know. Where that So and if you was doing that, which, like I said, as players, we never knew anything, you know what I mean. So it's like when they say this and that, like when have you ever came in and seen another person's practice or anything like, I've never experienced that. So when people say that, what do the hell are you talking about? But then if if Eric was to say something, if he was the one to go out, Okay, Bill, you

know who you're playing to. You don't gonna do that ship or if something is really going on like this, you didn't. You can't do that on the player, that on somebody that you was doing. So it was dumb on both day parts if that was the case. You know what I mean. But I've never seen personally, have you ever seen a since you've been there, have you ever seen it when it was all coming out? I've never seen nothing like that.

was the case. Like I'm keep saying that because I know people try to sound like I never seen the ship. I never know whether check you got to be a damn food if you do that to somebody that know, would the bones beard and seekers and all that stuff. But I think it's kind of like baseball. These fools are stealing each other signs all year long. Yeah, that's why you tell people's like if you see somebody with when can you ever do anything when you get the signal?

that's some rat ship. That's rad ship right there. I don't know. I don't know speculation, you know, shoot after this, but we're not saying allegedly all. I got to let the rest of it. But like I said, I have never seen the stuff for me personally to be able to watch somebody press like the ram still Man Marshall f Marsha fawk Stills. That's my guy too, right there. You know, Marshall, it's over. Man, Oh broh, you talk about hell to prepare for it. Man, Marshall fall. Marshall

falls a b is that exactly? Hell of a receiver, Marshall, if he wanted to and he trained at it, he probably could have been a productive receiver. That's how good he was, you know, out of the backfield. That's what people say. He was that good the scrolls route. But we still whip you all ass Yeah, physical exactly great, greatest show on Turn, the bed Track team all that stuff,

and like they were extremely extremely talented. Man, you know, you're talking about Tory Holt, the same thing was like the same thing Marvin Harrison, Reggy Wayne, you're talking about Isaac Bruce was one of the best routers to ever play the game, you know what I mean? And talking about stop on a jime. He was like you know Ricky, Yeah, Ricky. And then you had Tory hold Over there with that speed that could take the top off anytime. You had Kurt Warner. Then Marshall fall. You had to like we

had somebody in there, guys just rotting with marsh fall. Yeah, but I was that.

Marshall fault, we gave him a little bonus. I love that. Yeah, that's how we were. That's what we did, man, because they was getting the ship kicked out of them all week.

fucking fast, he's quaking getting out of breaks. And it was just we used to play them twice a year all the time, in the playoffs and regular season. He was just he knew how to use his hands, he knew how to play me. You know, I thought he was always he was very competitive, and then he got older, he lost the lots something.

under control, you know what I mean. It was about to be a rap. But then you have to change. And like I said, Sante came in and went on to have a hell of a career. You know what I mean. You can argue, oh whoa you said, Sante? How come with Sante hates Bill so much? Man? I don't know, man, because like I said's little brother man. And I think it started stilling with no, no, it's been I think it started with the contract stuff. So I think felt disrespected, you know, especially when I was gone.

He was up next to get his contract and I and I think he felt like he's proven himself, which he did. You know, you look at the numbers, you know he put he put it out there, you know what I mean. Sante Samuel got some damn numbers. You know what I mean. He can play, So he was the next He was the next guy up. You know, they released me after I broke my foot because I had this huge cap number, so I got released. Sante he stepped into that role, got stup bowl. Then guess

what he's sitting there making plays. So when they didn't give him a long term contract and enfranchised him, all that it played on him because man, he wanted to be appreciated for what he's done. If you're not letting go and get some money, and that's didn't happen. So he went out there balled out, and I think that Sante has never forgotten what he went through to get to where he was at ended up going to get you know, his money, you know, elsewhere in Philadelphia and Atlanta,

continued to make plays. So you know, much respect to you know, little brother, you know what I mean. But I think his dislike towards Belichick stemmed from him not giving him his money and not giving him the respect that you know, he thought he deserved or rightfully deserved.

my hands. Everybody, look at the one that I caught. You see you know, hand up and there you see that one. It's another one that I should have caught, but I got blinded by the lights and all that, and I just know I dropped that ship. I'm like, God, damn it, I dropped that in the m v P with it, because now I had two picks. They were down in the reds on the bout to score, and they ended up they ended up scoring. But it was a pick that I would pick off any day of

the week, and and I dropped it one. Yeah, I made the big one. But that's what that would have iced the game right there, because they would stop they score driving. I mean, you know what it is. That was like I was coming over, I was covering Isaac like ship. Sometimes it's too good to be true. Yep, did we miss anything to the other big We talked about this earlier, but of course after this game, the tie law rule was enacted, changing the NFL as we.

all of you just walk there. But I think they give you up to like five or six games anytime you want to go to and you just got to you gotta call ahead of time, you know what I mean, Like the regular seasons. If I'm out here, like I took advantage of it, you know here before to go see a game, you know what I mean, go do that and then we have a lifetime you know thing with top Golf, so you know, you know, I think we go get our first round or something like that, you know, for.

great Chris Berman. You know, you would always do this talk about I fought the law and the Law won. You know, I didn't know what it was, like, Oh that's cool when I found out it was a damn song, you know if the law and you know, yeah, I mean it's cool. It ain't like my music, but hey, I like that, man. So I mean I thought the Law and the Law one. Yeah, so shout out shout out to Chris Burban man for man.

of getting there and closing out. So I would say that was the second greatest uh you know game for me, star power wise zero to ten. You gotta score it. Oh you gotta score it. Oh score it. That's a that's a that's a ten.

a teen. But you got to give you know, the other guys some credit, so you know, hard integrity right there. What's the name of the game? Score the name though, I fought the law and the law one game. Yeah, I like that one because that one in three picks, man, they fought me to score the name ten that I fought the law and the law one. That is, that's all I got a song, that's right, baby, Nine point seventy five. Let's see where it ranks in the games that we've done tied thus far. That is a very

high you right, number two? Yeah. AFC Championship game superne Patriots versus Chiefs. So what they got us at? I can't see it? Where where we at? You're right, you're in between, yeah, and where else? Jackie.

covered everything, you know what I mean? Because I was like, I can't get no, you can't get no better than that. And and just before we get off and go, I believe it is corvs. Yeah, yeah, you know, we don't. We don't ran the gauntlet. So we're gonna what y'all want, tropical pure grilled pineapple. I like the grind.