In this episode of The Future Money Podcast presented by The Interledger Foundation, host Lawil Karama interviews Carol Ann Hilton, CEO of the Indigenomics Institute and a leader in Indigenous economics. We discuss her book “Indigenomics: Taking a Seat at the Economic Table” and its emphasis on incorporating Indigenous perspectives into global economic frameworks. Hilton explores economic justice, sustainable business practices, and the significance of self-governance. The conversation showcases...
Mar 27, 2025•35 min•Season 1Ep. 18
Welcome to the Future Money Podcast. In this episode, host Lawil Karama speaks with Larissa Lamporsad and Kayee Au, co-founders of Kumquat, a product design and user strategy consultancy based in South Africa with global reach. They share their journeys and discuss how trust, simplicity, and dignity in designing financial services shape their work at Kumquat. The discussion explores the importance of cultural relevance and ethical solutions, highlighting how thoughtful design drives innovation a...
Feb 27, 2025•57 min•Season 1Ep. 17
In this episode of the Future|Money Podcast, we sit down with Santosh Viswanatham , a seasoned engineer and open-source advocate from Hyderabad, India. We explore Santosh’s personal journey, the impact of digital financial inclusion in India, and his active role in the open-source movement, particularly in web monetization and financial technology. Santosh shares his firsthand experience of how India’s Unified Payments Interface (UPI) revolutionized the financial landscape, bringing millions int...
Jan 30, 2025•37 min•Season 1Ep. 16
In this special episode of the Future Money Podcast, we look back at a year off digital financial inclusion Through curated highlights from guest conversations. We explore the evolving landscape of digital transactions, the role of food in community building, and artists’ unique perspectives on value, universal payment systems, and innovative approaches to creating a more inclusive financial future. Join us as we revisit the moments that sparked meaningful discussions and highlighted remarkable ...
Dec 19, 2024•32 min•Season 1Ep. 15
In this Future Money Podcast episode, host Sabine Schaller converses with Stefan Thomas and Evan Schwartz, the Interledger Protocol (ILP) co-creators. They explore ILP’s development journey, scalability, and its potential to create a universal payment network. The conversation delves into their design process, which aims to simplify and route payments seamlessly across different networks, much like how the Internet handles data. The discussion also touches on future outlooks, focusing on automat...
Oct 24, 2024•46 min•Season 1Ep. 14
In this episode of the Future Money podcast, we sit down with Joran Greef, the CEO of Tiger Beetle. Joran shares his journey from a childhood passion for business and coding in Cape Town to leading an innovative international team. The conversation delves into Tiger Beetle’s development as a financial transactions database, highlighting its speed, reliability, and use of open-source technology. Joran explains how trust and innovative consensus protocols are crucial to the system’s success. Want ...
Oct 10, 2024•54 min•Season 1Ep. 13
In this episode of the Future Money Podcast, we convene with Uchi Uchibeke , a technologist and entrepreneur. Uchi shares his journey from growing up in Nigeria to securing a scholarship to study in Canada and his experiences with limited hands-on learning opportunities in Nigeria, which led him to pursue further education abroad. We also discuss Chimoney, a platform for financial inclusion and economic empowerment that aims to enhance financial services, support digital identities, and adopt th...
Aug 26, 2024•47 min•Season 1Ep. 12
In this episode of the Future Money Podcast, we present The Interledger Salon. We focus on the Interledger Foundation’s work on campus involvement and partnerships with universities. Our guests, Dr. Allan Davids of the University of Cape Town, Dr. Andrew Mangle of Bowie State University, and Interledger Foundation’s CEO and President Briana Marbury, discuss the challenges and successes of integrating open payments into university curriculums. The conversation highlights the importance of educati...
Jul 11, 2024•51 min•Season 1Ep. 11
We’re thrilled to announce the first Interledger Salon on the Future|Money podcast, a quarterly panel hosted by the Interledger Foundation with facilitation by Chief Program Officer Chris Lawrence. These discussions aim to connect our community to multilateral stakeholders in the digital financial inclusion sector. As such, we invited Jayshree Venkatesan from the Center for Financial Inclusion , Ed Cable from Mifos , and Paula Hunter, Executive Director of Mojaloop Foundation , who all share our...
May 28, 2024•58 min•Season 1Ep. 10
Welcome to another episode of the Future| Money podcast. In this episode, we’re talking to Carlijn Kingma from Waterworks of Money, a project that explores the metaphor ‘money as water’. We’ll discuss how Carlijn, as an artist and architect, makes complex topics like monetary systems and financial structures more accessible, engaging, and comprehensible to a broader audience. And we explore how her project, Waterworks of Money, ignites essential conversations to advance financial literacy and in...
May 14, 2024•39 min•Season 1Ep. 9
Welcome back to another episode of the Future|Money series! Today, we’re thrilled to be in conversation with with Felipe Brugues, Ana Rodriguez, and Juan Carlos Leon, an inspiring collective based in Mexico City and Quito. Today we are diving into their project, Re/Simulate. This fascinating artwork digs deep into the effectiveness of financial and economic programs, often found in self-help business literature and political policies across the globe. Using interactive computational simulations ...
Apr 30, 2024•52 min•Season 1Ep. 8
Join this week’s episode where we welcome our newest host, Chris Lawrence, Chief Program Officer of the Interledger Foundation. Chris converses with Dr. Andrew Mangle, an Associate Professor from Bowie State University. They discuss the partnership between the Interledger Foundation and Bowie State, which provides students with learning opportunities in fintech, open-source technology, and Digital Financial Inclusion. Don’t miss the insights into Dr. Mangle’s journey, student motivations, mentor...
Apr 16, 2024•40 min•Season 1Ep. 7
In this episode, we are in conversation with Lena Ghaninejad. She will be sharing more about her artwork, Liminal Matter. The installation aims to illustrate the evolution of money from tangible matter that originates directly from the Earth (grains, food & stones) into an increasingly immaterial entity that leaves more people behind as financial systems complexify and access to technology remains limited -thus asking the question: how can we best share the planet’s resources?.’ 🌟The Interl...
Apr 02, 2024•35 min•Season 1Ep. 6
In this episode, we are in conversation with Esther Mwema. She will be sharing about her project, Sikhula Sonke: Living Archives of Afrofuturist Village Banking, which she created together with Jon Adam Chen and three different communities in Zambia and South Africa. Sikhula Sonke is an isiXhosa phrase which means ‘we grow together.’ The project is a mixed media artwork and storytelling project that documents informal savings groups as a way of understanding inclusive financial models in Souther...
Mar 19, 2024•42 min•Season 1Ep. 5
In this episode we talk with Subhashish Panigrahi, he is a civil society leader and documentary filmmaker with an interest in tech, media, and society. His films focus on conservation and assertion and broader issues of access, digital rights, and openness. He advocates for community-led media, open tech development, and indigenous sovereignty. Subhashish will share more about his childhood in India and how language influences social constructs and access to technology. In his new short film, ”B...
Mar 05, 2024•50 min•Season 1Ep. 4
In this episode, we converse with XiaoXiao, also known as Xiaoji Song. She is an artist, writer, and researcher currently based in Berlin, Germany. Her work centers around community-specific experiences, influenced by texts, games, and performances. These experiences often touch on topics such as migration, techno-politics, and the performative aspect of political memory, particularly their relevance to global phenomena. In this episode, we will delve into her work “Parallel Society, “The Parall...
Feb 20, 2024•29 min•Season 1Ep. 3
In this weeks episode, We will talk with Mia Wright Ross who is an Artist, leather artisan, designer, educator, and entrepreneur. She specialised in the leather Cording technique and was one of the eight artists selected to participate in the Future|Money Arts and Culture grant by Interledger Foundation. We will discuss her artwork, “Loose Change (Chains)”, a community based project that reimagines the financial structure by which a litter of lottery tickets are used to question the theologies o...
Feb 06, 2024•38 min•Season 1Ep. 2
The first episode is a conversation with Kokayi Walker , a Grammy-nominated musician and composer who co-designed the Future Money grant . We discussed how he uses technology in his art practice, And how he’s experienced the tension of financial exclusion, and his collaborations with international artists. We also explored in our chat how the seemingly simple exchange of money for creatives awakens larger issues of privacy, surveillance, fair wages, exploitative commerce, and the complexities of...
Sep 18, 2023•41 min•Season 1Ep. 1
The Future Money podcast is presented by the Interledger Foundation . We invite people of all backgrounds and disciplines to imagine what a financially inclusive future might be. In the first episodes, we’re focusing on the creative arts and interviewing artists whose work provokes new ways of thinking about a more expansive, inclusive future of how we get, spend, and share money. 🌟The Interledger Salon now has its very own podcast feed! Dive into inspiring conversations from our community of i...
Sep 07, 2023•1 min
