In this episode, we speak with Jan Masaoka, CEO of California Association of Nonprofits (CalNonprofits), and one of the most respected and outspoken organizers, advocates, authors, and capacity-builders in the nonprofit sector. Jan recently announced her departure from CalNonprofits, and she shares sage wisdom (and rage!) on a range of issues including advocating for a better relationship between government and nonprofits, addressing the “overhead” myth, funding full costs, dealing with nonprofi...
Mar 08, 2023•46 min•Season 4Ep. 2
Welcome to the first episode of Season 4 of Fund the People - A Podcast with Rusty Stahl! In this episode, host Rusty Stahl welcomes you back, and sets up the theme for an amazing new season! Each season of this show has a theme, and together they follow the outline of our Funding that Works Framework. Season 1 explored the problem facing the social sector as a deficit of investment in the nonprofit workforce. Season 2 introduced the concept of Talent-Investing, “the intentional deployment of ca...
Mar 01, 2023•12 min•Season 4Ep. 1
Get a sneak peek at our upcoming season 4, where Rusty and guests dive into the Eight Practices of Talent-Investing.
Feb 22, 2023•2 min
In celebration of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, we’re pleased to welcome special guest Michael Smith, the eighth CEO of AmeriCorps, the federal agency for service and volunteering. This special episode explores the role of AmeriCorps as the federal government’s anchor institution, ensuring that MLK National Day of Service is a “day on,” not a “day off.” Our conversation also examines the role of AmeriCorps as a partnership between the federal government and the nonprofit sector for advancing publ...
Jan 11, 2023•46 min
2022 has come to an end, and we’ve also reached the end of Season 3 of the Fund the People Podcast. So we’ve got a nice finale to wrap things up with a bow for you! In this solo episode, Rusty Stahl recaps the theme of Season 3 – the 8 Principles of Talent-Investing – and summarizes the key ideas covered in his conversations with amazing guests throughout the season. This season finale offers a nice succinct guide to the guests and topics covered this year. We’ll be back in March with a new seas...
Jan 04, 2023•17 min•Season 3Ep. 12
This episode is end-of-year inspiration – and it offers a bold new model for increasing investments in America’s nonprofit workforce. In this episode, you’ll learn how a group of nonprofits showed elected leaders the essential value of the nonprofit human services workforce, and broke through malaise and noise to secure historic state and local government investments in nonprofit workers! Host Rusty Stahl speaks with Michelle Jackson, Executive Director of Human Services Council of New York to g...
Dec 28, 2022•49 min•Season 3Ep. 11
From all of us at Fund the People – Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanzaa, and Happy New Year! You and millions of people in America’s nonprofit workforce are resisting, keeping flames alive, sustaining traditions and values, and rebuilding communities and civic spaces that have been so challenged by the pandemic, political violence, and other crises. And as you do this work, it is critical that you find ways to take care of yourself and your co-workers, and to ensure that your organiza...
Dec 18, 2022•3 min
We are in the nonprofit sector’s season of giving , but we’re going counter-culture. This episode is all about nonprofit saving . Specifically, nonprofit workers saving for retirement. In this episode, you'll learn why it's critical for funders, nonprofits, and nonprofit workers alike to invest in retirement savings. You’ll hear the surprising political history of nonprofit retirement; how retirement policies can bolster racial and class inclusion in nonprofit teams; and the four major gaps faci...
Dec 07, 2022•58 min•Season 3Ep. 10
In this episode, you’ll learn about developing a compensation philosophy on which you can build human resources and compensation systems that are in keeping with values of equity and justice. Consultant Mala Nagarajan sits down with host Rusty Stahl to talk about the ideas that undergird equitable salaries and benefits in social justice and social change workplaces. Mala brings deep experience in nonprofit human resources through her work with Vega Mala Consulting and RoadMap Consulting. She is ...
Nov 16, 2022•41 min•Season 3Ep. 9
With every election cycle and issue campaign, we are reminded of the critical role that community organizers play in supporting the civic participation of all Americans. In this episode, you'll learn from new research on the working conditions of community organizers in social justice nonprofits. You’ll hear how organizers, executive directors, and funders view the issue. You’ll get recommendations for change, and next steps the All Due Respect is pursuing to ensure that all due respect is given...
Nov 09, 2022•47 min•Season 3Ep. 8
Burnout is a chronic condition in nonprofits. Right now, it’s at an acute level after the years of trauma we’ve been experiencing. And burnout has a compounding impact on people who are dealing with marginalization. Yet burnout is often something we suffer in isolation, in silence, and in an individual fashion – as if it's not an organizational or collective concern. In this episode, you'll gain a first-hand perspective on burnout from Dany Sigwalt , the outgoing nonprofit executive director of ...
Nov 02, 2022•58 min•Season 3Ep. 7
Nonprofit people create and sustain the organizational capacity of nonprofits. So there’s a natural connection between organizational “capacity-building” and what Fund the People calls “talent-investing” (intentionally deploying capital to support and develop nonprofit workers). In our continuous effort to capture the value that talent-investing offers to nonprofits and their funders, in this episode you'll hear the perspective of a funder who actualized this deep connection between a foundation...
Oct 19, 2022•25 min•Season 3Ep. 6
Is student debt haunting your nonprofit career? Is the specter of student loans looming over people in your organization, or your colleagues elsewhere? Are you an HR person helping nonprofit workers navigate the harrowing nature of debt? Luckily, you don’t need an exorcist to get rid of that debt! It can be wiped away through the federal government's Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) Progam . Now through Halloween (October 31, 2022), they’re making the process (and likelihood of forgiveness...
Oct 14, 2022•42 min
Learn why it's critical to invest in the diverse emerging workforce inside foundations, and how such investment helps organized philanthropy be responsive to nonprofits and those who are on the front lines doing the work. Rusty sits down for a chat with Storme Gray , the inspiring Executive Director of Emerging Practitioners in Philanthropy (EPIP), the national network of emerging foundation leaders who are elevating philanthropic practice in order to build a more just, equitable and sustainable...
Oct 12, 2022•42 min•Season 3Ep. 5
In this episode, you'll learn about some easy actions you can take to help researchers address the lack of philanthropic investment in the nonprofit workforce, and the burnout that results from that deficit of investment. Host Rusty Stahl sits down with Betsy Leondar-Wright , Project Director of Staffing the Mission. Launched in 2019, Staffing the Mission works to make life better for diverse nonprofit employees, and is a program of Class Action, a Massachusetts-based nonprofit that “inspires ac...
Oct 05, 2022•20 min•Season 3Ep. 4
In this episode, you'll get a rare glimpse into the inside story of two people who have, together, gone through the unique crucible that is an executive transition. Jane McDonnell is the former Executive Director of the Online News Association and is now an independent consultant. Irving Washington is the current Executive Director of the Online News Association, and a longtime association professional in the journalism field. Jane and Irving went through an executive transition in a thoughtful,...
Sep 21, 2022•1 hr 1 min•Season 3Ep. 3
In this episode, you'll gain valuable insights from a major funding institution about why they believe it’s important to invest in the nonprofit workforce by supporting new executive directors. We speak with Joey Lee and Bipasha Ray of Open Society Foundations (OSF). You'll hear about important research on the value of investing in new executives from a new OSF report that draws upon the experiences and voices of hundreds of new E.D.s. This is a resource that you can use with your funders, your ...
Sep 14, 2022•1 hr 16 min•Season 3Ep. 2
This episode kicks off the fabulous third season of Fund the People - A Podcast with Rusty Stahl. To get the season started, Rusty establishes the theme: the 8 Principles of Talent-Investing. He shares guiding principles from “Funding that Works,” the exciting new framework for talent-investing that Fund the People will roll-out in 2023 through our new online Academy. The principles offer the intellectual groundwork upon which effective talent-investing practices can be built.
Sep 07, 2022•10 min•Season 3Ep. 1
It's been a long, hot summer, and we've been cooking up a delicious menu of alternatives to the nonprofit starvation cycle. We are back with a phenomenal Season 3, serving up episodes based on the 8 Principles of Talent-Investing. Grab your fork, dig in, and enjoy interviews with folks from foundations, nonprofits and intermediaries. Tune in for Season 3 of the Fund the People podcast on Wednesday, Sept. 7, and remember to keep your tank full, take care of yourself, and take care of one another....
Aug 31, 2022•3 min
Announcing a special new program: the Funding That Works Academy! Learn about our talent investing framework via an online course with versions available for all types of nonprofit professionals.
Aug 31, 2022•1 min
During this long dark winter, we have a bright conversation with a colleague who is managing the operations of a national social justice organization, and who can offer us some rays of hope. Our guest is Andrea Frye. Andrea is the Operations Director of Peoples’ Action, a national network of state & local grassroots power-building organizations united in fighting for justice. This episode gives you a concrete example of the value created for an organization and its staff when they use capaci...
Feb 24, 2022•56 min•Season 2Ep. 17
It’s the season finale and the end of 2021! To wrap up our season 2 exploration of talent-investing, Rusty shares his top three takeaways from these 16 episodes. He also shares a cool new feature of our show: Podcast Collections. And we welcome back friend-of-the-show Monisha Kapila for some holiday schmoozing and reflection on the Talent Matters Remix, the special three-part series that was a prominent part of this season. The Fund the People podcast will return in Spring 2022. We wish you all ...
Dec 22, 2021•39 min•Season 2Ep. 17
Today’s social justice nonprofit leaders are fighting for communities that have been impacted by trauma, even as the nonprofit leaders are experiencing or organizational and personal trauma themselves. Racial equity and social justice require talent-investing. In this episode, Rusty talks with Sidney Hargro, the inaugural Executive Director at The LeadersTrust, a new multi-funder grantmaking initiative that offers an effective, evaluated approach to talent-investing that has been tested for 20 y...
Nov 03, 2021•48 min•Season 2Ep. 16
Auberle is a sprawling Pittsburgh-area social service nonprofit that has been named “Top Workplace” nine times by The Pittsburgh Business Times, and is described by employees as flexible, supportive, comfortable, and safe. In this episode, Rusty speaks with Abby Wolensky and Ashley Pesi, Director and Program Manager (respectively) in Auberle’s workforce development program, about the various ways the organization supports and develops its staff. Our guests explain how the organization is devoted...
Oct 20, 2021•55 min•Season 2Ep. 15
Independent Sector (“IS”) is a national organization that represents the nonprofit sector in Washington. In this episode, Rusty speaks with Jeffrey Moore, its Chief Strategy Officer, about the importance of having a seat at the table with the federal government. The nonprofit sector is the trusted infrastructure in communities, and also 10% of the private workforce in the country. To raise our visibility, and make sure that our government understands and partners with the nonprofit sector, IS ha...
Oct 13, 2021•52 min•Season 2Ep. 14
Movement Talent was launched in 2020 to introduce a new way of finding, supporting, and maximizing talent for social justice organizations in the U.S. In this episode, Rusty speaks with its founder, Linda Nguyen, about the ways they have been working towards a more collaborative, equitable, holistic, and efficient approach to talent in progressive social movements. The conversation covers Movement Talent’s role as a support system at the organizational level, and at the individual level as well....
Sep 29, 2021•41 min•Season 2Ep. 13
Government contracts are a crucial revenue stream for large swaths of the nonprofit sector. In many organizations, employee wages and other compensation factors are based on the terms of government contracts. So there’s a close connection between government contracting practices and nonprofit workforce issues. In this episode, Rusty talks with Jennifer Geiling from the NYC Mayor’s Office about the City's efforts to create a more equitable, accessible, transparent, and standard process for nonpro...
Sep 21, 2021•1 hr•Season 2Ep. 12
In this episode, we speak with Roger Nozaki, Vice President at the Barr Foundation. You’ll get the rare opportunity to hear a foundation executive thinking through their work supporting nonprofit sector effectiveness. Roger shares his evolving ideas along the continuum from investing at the level of individuals - in particular executive directors - toward investing in “people-systems”, and a regional talent ecosystem for nonprofits. We discuss how racial equity can be bolstered through such effo...
Sep 09, 2021•49 min•Season 2Ep. 11
This is the third and final episode of Talent Matters Remix, our special summer series in partnership with ProInspire, co-hosted by Monisha Kapila and Rusty Stahl. In this episode, Monisha and Rusty talk with Michele Booth Cole, Executive Director of Safe Shores - The DC Children’s Advocacy Center, about why and how to build a nonprofit organizational culture that supports and develops employees. Michele reflects on her article, “A Culture of Care, Without Compromise,” in the Stanford Social Inn...
Jul 28, 2021•49 min•Season 2Ep. 10
This is the second episode of Talent Matters Remix, our three-episode series in partnership with ProInspire, co-hosted by Monisha Kapila and Rusty Stahl. In this episode, Monisha and Rusty talk with Stephen Bauer about supporting a diverse and inclusive next generation for the nonprofit workforce. Steve reflects on the article he wrote about developing leaders who are both value-based and results-driven, which was part of the Talent Matters series on the Stanford Social Innovation Review blog. H...
Jul 21, 2021•39 min•Season 2Ep. 9
