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I don't, I don't remember the episode where we came up with silly speculation Saturday. It
was a while back. I could go look on the site and look up silly speculation. Saturday, I can do that real quick.
What episode of Fun Fact Friday, where we like, oh, we
should do, oh, wow. It was a long, long time ago in a galaxy, far, far, far away. Yeah, I believe it was back when we were still in the house doing the we were. I remember silly speculation, Saturday the moon. That was episode 112 that wasn't long ago. No, yeah, go back further than that. Let's see, I think the first
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basically, what we're going to be talking about this episode after we do what we're going to do our support first, but we're going to be talking about stolen artifacts. 97 was the back rooms. I believe that was the first one episode 97 that was the first silly speculation Saturday, if you're if you're on our feed and you see the SSS before the title. That means it's silly speculation Saturday. Typically, I'll put the art. We'll have silly speculation Saturday over
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Did we do a one on SCPs, um, I don't we did
think, I don't think so. Did we? Did we do? Let's do a find a CP, nothing, wow,
and like a dream or something. I can I remember that? No, I
think we started researching SCPs, and we were just like, Yeah, but what? For those who don't know SCPs?
There's a, there's a, essentially, it's just a fiction, almost like an open source fiction website, SCP Foundation, where there's like a shared universe, and people do, they do stories about different artifacts that get found and that it's creatures, creatures, or entities or whatever, and it's, it's kind of just like a shared fictional universe where there's this foundation called the SCP Foundation, that secure, contain, protect. So any anomalous thing that they find,
they have to find a way to contain it, contain it. And is it, it's fun to read. Sometimes, there's a lot about of them. Yeah, there's, there's a lot of junk, um, because anybody could write, you know, anybody could write a thing. But every once in a while, there's a really good creature or just idea it's pretty neat, pretty neat stuff. But we are talking about museums today, specifically
museums that steel crap. Yeah, or are have contested items, right,
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do that, and that's because we own, we own that. But, yeah, museums, museums,
they do. Yeah, they do. So how we got this topic is he sent me a link of artifacts out of place in history. I think, yes,
because that's a topic I would love to do sometime. Yeah, yeah.
And I was like, Oh, why don't we do the fact that, like, the British Museum steals crap from other places, like the Rosetta Stone. And he was like, Well, you know, the Smithsonian's been doing crap like that, too. And I was like, Okay, let's
do some museum talk. So steel is an interesting like, way saying it like steel, I don't know, I didn't dig into the British Museum, but most of the Smithsonian stuff that is at not even just the Smithsonian, but a lot of American museums, they bought it. They bought the artifacts thinking they were legit artifact dealers. It turns out it was just just, you know, people just stole stuff, and then we're selling it with fake papers,
like, I'm pretty sure that the crap to the British Museum took is actually taken,
right, right, right. So you'll go into the British Museum. I didn't look into that at all, but there was the I'm trying to find, the the link. Oh, that's your link. That's not my link. The first, the last two are mine. Okay, gotcha. So I found one talking about, before we go into the British Museum of the Smithsonian, there's an article, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Okay, so the links in our show notes are kind of if you go to the New York Times too often, it's behind the paywall. So, you
know, you use your your smarts to get around all that. But there was a sarcophagus covered in gold at the Met Museum, right? And Kim Kardashian has a picture posing next to it at the Met Gala. And basically that was a big contentious thing, because the sarcophagus had been basically smuggled in. The Met paid $4 million for it, and it turns out it was smuggled in by
by the bad people. And all of this was brought to light by one of the guys who initially stole it, oh, took the mummy out of it, threw it in the in the Nile River, and was like, Hey, wait a minute. I didn't get any of that $4 million so he started whistle blowing and started telling everybody, you know, that's not that's not legit. Somebody stole that. Somebody stole that. And he was like, basically, I stole it and then sold it to somebody
for a much lower price than that. They made up fake papers and then sold it to the Met for $4 million and now the Met is like, yeah, so we, we've got to, we got to send this, send this thing back another Mets, like, out of $4 million and they can do anything about it. And so they thought they were doing the right thing. And they just, they just kind of, kind of weren't so $4 million down the drain for the met on this.
Oh, I think they've gotten it back.
What do you mean they've gotten it back? I
like donations and crap. It's a museum. I think they've gotten it back. Oh, the
$4 million Oh yeah, yeah. Museums. Anytime we go to a museum, there's always, like, the big glass box up in the front where you can drop money in. Yeah, we always throw a couple bucks in there, just because value for value, right? So, um, yeah. So they've got this, they've got this sarcophagus, and it's got it actually, they confirmed that it was one of the ones that was stolen, because the guy who had taken the mummy out of it. Didn't take all of the mummy.
There was a pinky finger left in there. It was like, stuck to the side. That's disgusting. So the moral of the story is, basically, if you're going to steal a sarcophagus, make sure you get rid of all of the mummy and know what you've got, you know, yeah, don't let anybody lowball you. Yeah, you took, you took a lot of risk stealing that thing. And, um, you know, if you ever happen to be in the the pawn shop, great, robbing
business, yeah, yeah. And the, the guy the pawn shops, like, ah, best I can do is four to 450 cent, you know,
at least do like six. Come on.
All right, so why don't you tell us about the British Museum, which is what got you interested in this topic.
Okay, so the British Museum has stolen a lot of artifacts, and I am saying stolen with the regard that possibly they are not stolen, but there has been like requests to send them back to the rightful owners, you know. So they have stolen the Rosetta Stone, and that's in their museum. I'm trying to find it
okay? So when you're talking about stolen, yes, and while you're finding your pieces, there you go. So when you talk about stolen for a museum, do you feel like stealing? Was the intent? Or do you feel like it was like, this belongs in a museum. We need to get this thing in a museum so the most people can benefit from seeing it and knowing its history. Or do you think it was like, but we're gonna take this
because people will pay money to come see it. You know, because museums are free, typically donation based, so I don't, I don't know if there's, like, an ill intent, or if, just, like, we want as many people to see this as possible, so we're gonna put this in them in London, you know. Yeah, okay, we'll go ahead. Talk about the Rosetta Stone. What is the Rosetta Stone? First of all, and then it's
a big old rock. It's a big old and it's got some, it has some stuff engraved in it, in like hieroglyphs, and they did translate it into, like a piece of paper or something.
The Rosetta Stone is how we learned to translate hieroglyphics into modern languages. It's it's a translation stone.
Yeah, the stone was discovered by French soldiers in the northern town of Rashid. Rashid, terrible pronunciation in 1799, shot up. Okay, thank you during Napoleon Bonaparte's military occupation in the country, but passed into British hands after the general forces were routed. Rooted in 1801, so it was taken from where it was made, I'm assuming, and given to the British and they brought it back, and then they put it in the British Museum.
So it was a, was a spoil of war. Does that sound like but I mean, they put it in a museum. It's not like somebody just took it. Somebody just took it and kept it for money purposes. So I don't know, I'm, I'm just kind of like playing the devil's advocate here. Of like, Napoleon stole it. I'm guessing maybe he paid for it. But no things like the Rosetta Stone, which you know are when it was originally made, 2000 5000 80,000 years ago, whenever it was made. Doctor,
I have more information. Oh, okay, okay. Dr, howis said he hopes to see the stone, which he described as an icon of Egyptian identity, displayed in the grand Egyptian Museum in Giza once it opens in late 2023 or early 2024 he was also pursuing the return of the Zodiac of Dendera from the louver and the Nefertiti bust From the NOE Museum in Berlin. But yeah. So the British Museum is just holding the Rosetta Stone, and he's hoping that they give it back.
And but my thing, my question is, like, on all of these things, do you feel like you personally, do you feel like one person has more of a claim to ownership as the other, because these things have been moved around for 1000s of years, so all of the sales or or moving of the things, or donations of the thing might have all been legit. So does the one in Giza have more of a claim on the Rosetta Stone than the British do, because, like, the guy who found the Rosetta Stone maybe,
like, okay, so he owns the land, right? The Rosetta stones on, and he finds it, and he donates it to to a guy, right? Because the guy's like, I'm gonna display this so everybody can see it, everybody can learn from it. And then that guy's like, All right, well, we wrote everything down on a piece of
paper from it. Let's put it in a museum. So he donates it to a museum, and then Napoleon takes it, and then the British take it from Napoleon after because they don't want it to fall into the wrong hands and get destroyed, so they put it in the British Museum. So like the chain of custody over, you know, however
many years could be very murky, and it might be all legit. So does the people do, the people in Giza at that museum, really have a claim on it, or they just kind of saying that should probably be over here, because it's part of Egyptian history, when really it's part of a history of the world? Yeah, so I
don't know. I'm, I'm kind of, that's why this topic so controversial, because it's like, who really owns the history of the world doesn't necessarily belong to the person and the person who found it might have sold it, you know, we don't know. So when, when people say that the museum stole the artifacts? I'm, I'm a little dubious on all of them, you
know, I'm not saying that. Yeah, we didn't we the British that museums and and artifact dealers and things like that didn't go in and just steal stuff or even mislead like, let's say there's like a small maybe not so it. Society somewhere that has some artifact, right? And they go to them, and they're like, Hey, what are you know? What if we give you, like, some some water wells and some tractors, you can use all these cool things, and you just give us that, that useless gold thing over there,
and it's just sitting there, yeah? And they're like, oh, yeah, because, I mean, that's kind of, it's slimy, but still, it's a deal. Yeah, deal's a deal. I don't know. I'm just kind of, I'm playing the devil's advocate here on behalf of the dealers and the museums and all that. Like the Smithsonian, there are rumors. Can't find anything really substantiated, because there's a lot of debunking articles that go along
with this thing. But the Smithsonian has allegedly been purchasing anytime somebody finds a the remains of a of a giant like they find giant skeleton, the Smithsonian will swoop in and pay the person who found it a lot of money and take it and hide it or destroy it. So that's a rumor that's been going around for quite a while, and a lot of people say it's debunked. And a lot of people you know, but the burial mounds that have been in America since before anybody was here, I guess
somebody had to be here make them. But since modern civilizations have been here, they've allegedly found lots of giant skeletons in these mounds. And the there's like news articles way back in like the 1800s of somebody finding, like an eight foot tall skeleton on their property, and people from the Smithsonian come and grab it. And I'm kind of led to believe that the Smithsonian is doing that, based on another article that I found that is founded on cnn.com and it's back
from last year. In August, the Smithsonian is apologizing for its dark history behind the collection of human remains. Oh, yeah. So I can go into that, unless you've got more British Museum
stuff. I have British Museum stuff on the human remains too.
So if you just oh, so I'll kick talk about Yeah. Okay, so basically, an early 20th century the Smithsonian was collecting human body parts. The It is currently in possession of 30,700 human body parts, including 255 brains. You can find a link to this in the show notes under the title Smithsonian steals people. Brain says, Sorry. 100 years later, and basically in the early 1900s they were trying to prove that
white people were superior to people of color. The Smithsonian was was trying to prove this particularly someone named Alice, her Delica hurdle. I can't even how do you have that many consonants in a row? H, r, d, l, I, C, K, A is the last name. Okay, any who the the there's those, yeah, there's a quote here. It was a poor, abhorrent and dehumanizing work, and it was carried out under the Smithsonian's name as secretary
of the Smithsonian. I condemn these past actions. This is somebody currently talking Yeah. I condemn these past actions and apologize for the pain caused by her, druka and others in the institution who acted unethically in the name of science, regardless of the era in which the actions occurred.
He continued, I recognize too that the Smithsonian is responsible for both the original work of her and others who subscribe to his beliefs and for the failure of the return of the remains he collected to descendant communities in the decades since. So my guess is, is this herd lica didn't write down and keep track of all the body parts. So getting them back to their original communities is probably really tough. You know they were, they were probably just like, hey, I go dig up all
those graves. There was a lot of let's see, when they took them, that was largely from black and indigenous people, as well as people of color, mostly without their consent. And see, there it goes again, with the mostly without their consent. So perhaps some of them were with consents like, Yeah, we don't. We don't care about the remains. Those are nobody, go to us, you know, give us. Give us 100 bucks when you can have them all,
whatever you know. So the Smithsonian has currently, just to tell you how big this organization is, 157 million items in their collection. You. Uh huh, there. Sometimes they call it the nation's attic. So probably, oh, that's neat, send to the Smithsonian. We'll stick it in, stick it in a warehouse somewhere. So in 1989 the National Museum of American Indians Act was enacted, and it says that the Smithsonian has to return the remains of individuals as quick as possible
to the descendants or the tribe from which they were taken. The Smithsonian has repatriated the remains of more than 5000 people to the American Indian tribes that they took them from. So it's kind of kind of a creepy pass for the Smithsonian. So it kind of makes me think, if they're doing that, and then, like it's just coming out that all this stuff was happening, what else have they done over the years? What else is in in unmarked or just marked with a random number boxes in the
Smithsonian's warehouses. Yeah, and it wouldn't it makes you wonder. Makes me wonder, because I've got kind of a conspiratorial mind. Maybe they've got stuff that they were they picked up and are hiding, because it goes against the the what the current narrative is for the history of America, slash the world. You know, if they find something that goes against what we have written down as history, it's like, man, they're gonna have to rewrite a whole lot of books if this piece
of whatever gets found. Yeah.
So the British Museum has a bunch of human remains, and they say on their website that they treat them with nice respect of the dead. Oh, I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do, yeah, but there is no really way to see if these were given to the museum by people in the family or stuff like that. So it does raise the same concerns, right that you were talking about, but they have a thing on their website that shows you all of the human remains in their collection. It's 116 pages long.
How many page has like nine things on it?
So like 1000 1000 items. And is that individual people's Roman, or is that, like, lots? Is that, like, we've got 3030, bodies from this?
No, I think this is like, individual because, like, Okay, let me look at the first page. Okay, we have, like, human skull, and some of these are things like, wrapped in skin or hair, you know, right? So it's not even just, like, full bodies, it's just parts, parts.
Yeah, that's what this says, is, it's parts, 30,000 parts. So, yeah, make sure you include that PDF in the show. Yes, that's, uh, that's interesting. I'd like to actually look through that a little later. Yeah. So what do you think about do you think that it was mostly with nefarious because, like, to me, I've met a lot of people that work in museums, and they are just, like, really into the this
is so neat. Come look at this and this. And granted, those are like, the front end workers and the people just, you know, they're hired there or whatever. But like, I don't feel like a lot of museums have like, this malicious intent of well, we're gonna get that because they'll bring more people to our our door. I'm sure there are people, because they want to get as many people in the door as possible, get more grants and things like
that. But I don't know, and I'm not saying, Oh, everybody runs a museum is pure of heart and all that, but I feel like most of them are probably trying their hardest, at least these days, to do things as above board as possible. It's like that, that sarcophagus with the Met Museum, they paid $4 million for this thing. So they, they're thinking, oh, you know, and they had, they had paperwork, and they had, you know, everything looked above board to them. So they're like, oh, wow, this is
really cool. And it's all legit, yeah, neat. We can put this thing out, but now the people want it back. So I don't know this PDF
is really thorough too, because it has like what it is, it has where it comes from in alphabetical order, and it has like, when it was from, and how many there is in the museum, and usually just ones. But that's really cool. Not saying it's cool that they have human remains, but it's cool how they throw up about it.
Now there are people who are definitely like artifact pirates, yeah, Thomas, Thomas hooving having having a metropoli, Metropolitan Museum of Art curator who later became its director, took particular pride in his ability to outsmart rivals in the global pursuit of masterpieces. So this has got one of the guys that you can't give the benefit of that out to. In one instance, he recalled spiriting a Romanesque relief.
From a Florentine church out of Italy, with the help of a dealer who, Hoving said, often stashed objects under a mattress in his station wagon. His quote is, my collecting style was pure piracy, and I got a reputation as a shark. So that kind of guy is probably the problem. Yeah. So, yeah, there you go. Old Thomas Hoving messing it up for everybody.
Yeah.
So, do you think that, like, do you think that they should, they should have to do that? I personally, I feel like all the museums, especially history museums around the world, and I know that they do have like tours of things like the Titanic exhibit toward it toured around until it got a permanent spot in Vegas, like the what the Rosetta Stone, for example. I feel like that that shouldn't be in one place,
because traveling is expensive. And if I want to see the Rosetta Stone, it's going to cost a lot to go to another country to see it, yeah, whereas if they bounced it around like it spends a year,
also, it's so historic that they don't want anything to happen. They don't
want to move it around more than they have to. That's That's true also, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the solution should
be in the place where it made history, you know, right? Like the MOE statues should be in Easter Island, where they were found and where they were made to be part of that culture, you know, Yeah, but see, that's where they made history, and
never see them, you know, like, I'll never get down to eastern island, yeah. Easter Island is not, they don't have, you know, big airport hub where you can get down there on a discount, you know, to see these things, whereas if they pick up one of them and fly it somewhere, or put it on a boat and send it to a museum, you'll get to see it. I got to see a part of the Berlin Wall at a museum one time. We think, I think it was the Smithson. Might have been Smithsonian when I went, I've been to the
Smithsonian once. I think that's where we were. And I got to see, like, a huge section of the Berlin Wall with all of its graffiti and stuff on it. And that was extremely interesting. And I don't think I'm probably ever going to Germany. I don't really have any interest to go to Germany. It's really neat to be able to see something from a different place, you know,
different part of the world. I find it interesting. And if everybody's hoarding their own artifacts and stuff, well, of course I say all this, but with the internet and with even like the 3d scan technology and stuff like that, soon enough, you'll be able to pop on your VR headset, another already doing this with some museums, and you'll be able to virtually walk around, and it'll feel like you're there, yeah, because, I mean, you can't touch any of this stuff anyway. It's not like
a Bob Ross painting that was so fun, that was so neat. Phaedra did not want to touch that painting. She's
like, hands on it, really touching it. But yeah, Bob
Ross wants you to touch the paintings like he said. He said, he said as much. He's like, if you can't touch it, you can't feel the texture that the paint. Painting going nowhere. Just don't chip at it. You know, the girl
walked up to us and was like, Yeah, you can touch it. He would love he would love it to know that y'all were like, Yeah, appreciating his paint up close. And it
meant something to me, and it meaning something to me, yeah, would mean something to Bob Ross, you know, it my, my Wonder of touching this thing that I saw him paint on, you know, PBS, however, many years ago when I was a kid, like, I
think he would have enjoyed that. I enjoyed it. Yeah, so now art, art is a whole different thing, yeah, because art is used for money laundering, yeah, when you, when you tell me that that that painting, right there, whatever painting it is sold for $40 million yeah, there's somebody laundering money. There's, there's no way somebody's trying to, somebody's trying to move money around without raising suspicions.
Yeah, and that's a real easy way to do it, because since artists subjectively priced,
one more thing I want to talk about, okay, yeah, the how do you say it? I don't know. Parthenon. Parthenon, Parthenon sculptures. The British Museum has a whole bunch of them, and they're really cool. I look on the website and they're really cool. They look amazing. But they have been requested to be returned to Greece, and there has been. In, like meetings about getting them back to Greece, but they just haven't gone through with it. So
who's gonna pay to get them there? Maybe that's what's the sticky point,
maybe. But okay, it says what has been requested, a formal request for the permanent return to Greece. Of all the Parthenon sculptures in the museums collection was first made in 1983 there have been various meetings and discussions since that media coverage has referred to the Greek government requests to borrow the sculptures, but a loan request has never been received. The trustees will consider any loan request for any part of the collection subject to all normal
loan conditions success. Successive Greek governments have refused to acknowledge the trustees title to the Parthenon sculptures. So I think it is about the money right now, moving it, yeah, moving it,
that's gonna cost a lot, because in order to have the the care taken to make sure that nothing gets broken, you're gonna have to pay people a lot of money. Yeah, sounds like a full their loan. Oh, yeah. And then I've never seen this before, yeah, oh, it's the all those old Greek and Roman
statues and stuff are amazing. And I would love to have seen them with the paint on them, because, like, they painted, you know, like they weren't just white stone, which, there's something beautiful about it just being white stone
also. But I want to go back to that museum in, uh, what's its face?
What's his face? Yeah. In Virginia, yeah, the Chrysler Museum, yeah, yes. Chrysler Museum has some amazing art in it. So does the the what is it? North Carolina Museum of Art up in Cary. Oh, yeah. It has, it has a lot of your mom always was
one in Cary. She likes the Chrysler museum the most, though, out of all the ones she's been to, I remember when we went to the Smithsonian they had this huge pillar, not glass, a Plexiglas pillar filled with transistors, like floor to ceiling, and the ceilings were really high, and then it had an Intel 486 chip sitting in front of it, and said, this chip has 10 times the amount of transistors inside of this tube, and this was back in the 90s. Wow. So now might have been a
386 chip. I don't remember Intel chip. So now it like you'd have to fill the building with transistors. I know to meet one of the new processors. Some of those new processors have like, 40 gajillion transistors in them, gajillion I'm trying to I'm going to start teaching Leila about how computers work and all that, because she's got some classes coming up for computer science. So I'm going to get on top of getting her the
basics soon. Yeah, so, but yeah, I feel like you have to go artifact by artifact with this stuff, and like I was saying earlier about being able to travel all over the world to see all of these different artifacts, when you pull most of them into one, one museum that's well funded and can keep track of everything and make sure everything's in a good condition and and all that. Like, if you have an artifact from somewhere that's less advanced, has an unstable government, things like
that. Like, let's say we send the Billy Bob stone, I don't know, not, not the resistance back to, you know, some small, uncivilized place where it was gotten from, right? Because it's this huge piece of human history. But that place gets it for their little museum that's basically just a shack with no kind of security or anything. Now, that stone, the billabob Stone, gets stolen by random people locally and then sold
back to a big museum or a private collector, you know. So it kind of makes sense to have the big, really historical items stored in places and shown in places that can protect them and preserved, I
just hope, is that all of the places that they come from have given permission to the like, British Museum,
right? And with this really old audience, really old stuff that the museums have had for decades or centuries, there's no, really no way to know, yeah, because the records just weren't kept back then everything was on a handshake or, you know, things like that. So I don't know. It's just speculating here, huh, huh that. I don't know it's probably 5050, legit and stolen, yeah, stuff, but get out, yeah, just get out
to a museum and look at stuff when you can. When you can. We enjoy going to museums that used to be one of me and Phaedra date things, because it's free. I mean, we always made a donation of some kind, even it was only a couple bucks. We didn't have a lot of money. We were dating, and we were always looking for stuff to do that was cheap, and museums. Yes, even our little local museum here just did a prohibition, oh, it was neat.
What's it called? Exhibit? And had, you know, stills and stuff, yeah, and bunch
of in prohibition,
yeah, one of the things that we went we went to the caves in the mountains a couple couple months ago. Oh, the caverns. And the caverns we went to, they had a bunch of old distilling stuff. Oh, yeah, moonshine, moonshine stills, and and,
and they had a history of how they got, tried to get down there, but they failed a couple times. Yeah, so like the holes in the ceiling and crap before
the big holes were dug to enter the caverns, they had to go through these tiny little holes. So they had to take all the distilling equipment down there, and a lot of it didn't even fit in the holes, like the big tub. So they had to take everything down, piece by piece, build it down there, instead of just
carrying a huge pile of moonshine equipment from where they tried and they didn't accomplish it, and the broken stuff, and it was all like, roped off, so you couldn't get to it, obviously.
Well, it was all broken because the the coppers came in, yeah, and smashed up the whole operation. After they found out about it, they left it there. So it's really cool to see it. Yeah, it was neat seeing 100 year old distilling equipment. Yeah, I
didn't expect that when I came in. Was neat, neat stuff. Neat was neat stuff. But
what else did we have? Let me see, what other links did I have here? Smithsonian, oh, when I went, when I was going through the Giant Skeleton stuff, there is a museum in let's see. Where would it say that it was because I was gonna say, gonna say Ireland. But it says the, oh, a London Museum. There it is. There is a London museum that is getting rid of a giant skeleton. Oh, now the giant isn't like I was talking about giant with like, nine foot people, 10 foot people. This is
a seven foot seven man known as the Irish giant. He was on his deathbed in the late 1700s 1783 and he made a final request of his friends that they bury him at sea so that surgeons won't be able to dissect him to figure out why he was so big. Shortly after his death, at the age of 22 a whole tribe of surgeons put a claim on the poor, departed Irish giant and surrounded his house, just as Greenland harpooners Would, an enormous whale. Is the quote. I love
it. If I was, if I was weird, I had, like, a weird deformity in me, I would be like, Man, they never go find me, nope. And I would like do something like that.
So his buddies did try and fulfill his wish, all his wishes, wishes, his wishes, but an anatomist named John Hunter thwarted the plans, reportedly paying 500 pounds to Byron's to open Byron's coffin and replace his remains with weights. A few years later, Hunter displayed Byron skeleton and at his London home turned he turned it into a museum as a part of an exhibit for abnormal growth of human bones. So basically, one
dude's house, that one dude's house. What? Who pants guy?
Oh. Guillermo del Toro, yes, his house. Is so cool. Hop on YouTube and look up Gilda gilmo Del Toro house tour. It's so cool. He had to buy a second house. How cool it is. He's got so many artifacts and stuff and souvenirs
and from history, yeah.
So anyway, he the guy had gigantism, yeah, and his skeleton has been floating around for different through different museums throughout the the centuries. And they're finally just, they're finally just like, Yeah, we're gonna get we're gonna get rid of it, yeah? But the Rampage was so big, yeah. His. Check the article. I think I just called it Irish giant, Irish giant skeleton. It doesn't look that deformed, as rib cage is bigger than a normal rib cage, yeah. I mean,
obviously everything looks a little tiny bit bigger. Propriet propriety, proportion, proportionally. Yeah, it doesn't look way out of proportion. So basically, there, following the announcement the skeletons removal from you, they released a joint statement expressing their delight over the news. There was never a coherent argument for the museum to do otherwise, given Byron's explicit decision for his body not to fall in the hands of John Hunter for fear of what then
precisely happened. But it is entirely unclear what further research the Hunterian had in mind. Our suspicion is that the museum still wants some medical students simply to see the skeleton in private, which again would go against Byron's documented wishes the. Like you've got the skeleton. The guy obviously didn't want what's happening to his skeleton to happen now, granted, he's gone, but you it's modern times. You can buy a extremely high quality 3d scanner for a couple 1000
bucks. You can use your phone with the new Unreal Engine to make a 3d scan of this thing and extremely high resolution pictures, and then you've got a perfect 3d model of it to study. And let some and let, let the man, let the man buried at sea, yeah, you know. And this is what I mean with the stealing. Like this is obviously, Yeah, that guy paid 500 bucks for it, but he paid somebody to open the coffin and replace the remains.
It wasn't an above board deal. It's not like the the money went to the the Irish giants family, you know, yeah, this one kind of, I don't know. It upsets me. I personally don't care what happens to my remains for I'm gone. Really don't, but I wouldn't want, I don't think I would want it paraded around and people making money off of it, you know, but whatever, whatever, man, I'm not, I'm not a fan of this story, so I think
that's going to do it for this silly speculation. Saturday, what's your favorite stolen skeleton?
Yeah,
let us know. Let
us know. [email protected] or don't send a skeleton, please. No,
no skeletons. My wife is horribly afraid of skeletons. Not like afraid of her. They freak her out. They just give her the creeps. And I'm like, you've got one inside you. She's like, you as funny. Maybe the
real skeletons were the friends you made along the way. Right? Literally,
right. They were, they were part of them. Yeah. All right, everybody. Have a fantastic weekend. We are coming up on Episode 200 if you want to send us a little note of wondering, maybe your favorite clip, maybe favorite part of an episode, something memorable about the show, little note or something like that, would be fantastic to read on our 200th episode, coming up in three weeks, maybe four weeks of doing this an episode, it happens people, yeah,
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Phaedra was out of town, and she was coming back yesterday, we were getting ready to record, and I was like, Man, the house is a mess. I want her to come home to a nice, clean house. Yeah. So we spent the morning cleaning up the house, and then we had to go get a hot dog because it was and then we got home, and I was like, Look, we're just not gonna have time to record, because she's gonna get home. And then we wanted to spend time with her, because we haven't seen her in a week. So I
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