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Fun Fact Friday with Leland. David. I'm David.
I'm Leila. That's right. We finally got it right.
We got to write 193 episodes. 193 episodes it took us to get the intro, right? Absolutely. We are what is the show? What are we? Oh, we're okay. weekly podcast we're discussing fun facts surrounding a different topic each week. It's not always fun. We don't always have facts, and we don't always release on Friday. But you know, at least what happens, right?
Nobody's perfect.
Nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect this week. This week. As we teased last week, we have a very special guest. Claire, from the creativity found podcast who I met down in Florida once say hello, Claire. Hello,
how
are you? Good. Good. And we met at pod Fest in Orlando in January, on the very last night of pod fest, and where you meet the most interesting people. And where's that in the queue for the bar in the queue for the bar. And for us American folks, ACU is a line where folks wait one after the other, typically
single file for an event or something like that. And that's what we're talking about this week, we're talking about the differences between, you know, just cultural differences, language differences between America and where are you from? Exactly.
I'm in Oxford,
Oxford. Great, that great accent that we talked about accents.
I can't believe you got one in so quickly with Q and line.
I'm always the wheels are always spinning. Sometimes they're creating smoke and nothing useful. But they're, they're always spinning the. So yeah, this isn't a normal episode where we do our you know, just our normal facts. We're just going to be another I've got some questions, another spider
or so many spiders in the shed. Okay,
well, looks like I'm gonna have to spray. I've been saying that for months. Oh, well. So I wanted to ask you right off the bat, because I I should know this. And I don't I hear United Kingdom are UK, England, and Britain, or Great Britain. I use those. I hear those used interchangeably. And I don't know. Exactly. I know that. England is like part of
I'm still trying to kill this guy.
While I'm you while you're while you're doing that. So what what is that? What is the difference in the proper nomenclature for everything? Yeah,
so actually, now there is a difference between the UK and Great Britain, but I don't actually know what that is. So England is the country that I live in, which is in the UK, and it is in Great Britain. And then you've got Scotland and Wales, which are on the same island as England. And then across the water. You've got Northern Ireland, and then the Republic of Ireland. And it's something to do with those with regards to what is the difference between UK and Great Britain, I believe.
But I've only started using the term UK from speaking with more and more American people, it seems the term that is used is UK so that that basically means you know, what side of the sea I'm on,
right as like us for us. You know, I live in the US makes it really easy. You know two letters.
UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain. I think Kingdom of Great Britain and something else. Maybe Maybe Northern Ireland. Let's have a look. I don't know.
We'll do the we do we do
live so I'm big on history. Maybe no one actually no.
There's no authority on it. It means different things to different people does.
Oh is a Northern Ireland. So it's the United Kingdom. So I didn't know deep down. United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Okay. Yeah, so great. Britain must be England, Scotland, Wales, because we're all on one island. Okay, United Kingdom then includes over the water that includes Northern Ireland. The Republic of Ireland is completely independent, and
this whole thing and there's a whole history behind that. Yeah, yeah, we won't go into the so before we go any further I just want to get that out of the way before I forgot it because I was thinking about it. Earlier when I was cooking the ramen noodles. Oh, they're so good. We went to the Asian store, down the street and They have, like a whole aisle of different types of ramen noodle. And this one's called What's it called? Anyway, it's got this Bulldog. And it's got this like
chicken on the front. And it's the hottest and it like, it's so red and it just stains everything red. So I've got like red spots on my hands and fingers. And I had to wipe my mouth off like four times, because it just gets everywhere, but it's super spicy and delicious. I'm
actually going to an Asian buffet for dinner. I'm not sure is going to be Oh, no. Apologies gonna be like sea freight.
Right? Yeah, you know, we we stopped at one we went to see a Bob Ross exhibit. It was a bunch of his paintings. And we got we touched them. And then we started just a random strip mall, Chinese buffet. And it was terrible. There was an exposed electrical socket, where we were eating right next to me in the booth. Like it was the wires were sticking out. And it was like sitting next to me in the booth. And I was like, this is I don't I don't feel like this is safe.
But health and
safety. Why don't you tell us I like I like I love the concept for your, for your podcast. So why don't you tell us a little bit about that real quick.
Thank you. Yeah, so basically, I've just done my 100th episode, actually, I've just released 103. Now congratulations. Thank you. And I speak with people who have found or refound their creativity in adulthood. And it all came from I was, I was doing some drama and singing classes that I organized, because I wanted to do something creative as a grown up. And I was meeting people through that, who were
saying, Oh, I used to love doing this stuff when I was a kid. But then I stopped doing it because I was told I was no good or because I had to work or because of looking after family or because I was academically bright bla bla bla. And then coming back to having a creative thing they love doing whatever it may be, and how it benefits the rest of their lives. So I started speaking with more and more people like that went into lockdown thought, Oh, I could I could podcast this. And it just
grew and grew. Obviously I started with people I knew. And then it's just grown and grown. And I was speaking this morning, in fact, with my third guest from Australia, actually. So she was in an evening and I was in an early morning with the wonders of digital digital communications. We can speak to anybody anywhere. That's a relation with
it's like I've worked with on my meters pod podcast, which I haven't put an episode out, like, almost all year. But I've worked with people from like, I think eight different countries to do audio drama stuff. And it's really nice to be able to do all that. But yeah, I'd really do enjoy your podcast. And if you're into that sort of thing, check it out, you get you talk to some, some interesting people. And then I
love that you've got your website set up. So you can go and see, you know, like you can get creative tools.
Yeah, the idea was that, you know, for these are really inspiring stories and their stories from ordinary people. And you know, like, you might be listening and think, Well, if that person can do that, I can give it a go. Because oftentimes, the guests will say I was really rubbish at it when I started or I didn't like it and I tried something else, all these kind of encouraging words, for someone who as a grown up will go, oh, it shouldn't start because I might be rubbish or I
won't be perfect, blah, blah. So then, yeah, I started the website so that listeners could actually go to places and find creative activities to try but also helping out. It's promotional, it's networking for the small businesses that teach
there are tea and crafty activities. And so we have a lovely little community now as well so as well as podcast community of guests I've spoken with there's also all the people in the creativity fan collective, who are spread around the country doing the same thing but kind of spread out and we can get together and be together and promote what each other does and stuff like that. Right. The
class isn't what she said there a minute ago remind me of something. Nelson Hi high school I believe it was our English teacher had this quote on the wall. I have no idea who was from. But the quote was somewhere along the lines of if man waited until he was so good. If a man waited to do something, until he was so good at it that no one could find fault. Nothing would ever get done. So you you just you get out there and you start doing it. Go back and listen to our couple first episodes. Yeah,
don't ya?
We had scripts, and we had like, we read. We read the scripts. She was 10. So she had good ideas.
You had like the whole dad personality,
right? And I was playing it up real hard. Sweet. And then Oh, it's okay sweetie, you know, just pick on you. But yeah, and we had not we edited it we we record for for it was terrible 30 minutes, and we would edit it down it would be like 12 minutes.
So I do edit I'm, I did books from my day job. So I think I'm just made to edit and yeah, I know a fine tooth comb but I do do quite a bit of editing. You
said do too. We, we edit if one of us if one of us makes says something inappropriate because we we were. We don't Bill ourselves as a kid show. We're a family friendly show. But if something's you know, we know some kids listen, we know for a fact that some kids under 10 Listen, so we try and keep it you know? Or if Leila has just straight up said some of her classmates names or teachers names. Oh no crap that out. And we don't need to have Doc's? Anybody. Yeah. But yeah, it's
this show, we don't really edit. But you know, of course me this pod is an audio drama, I've got it 40 hours of editing on one episode, you know, dealing with how to edit 7878 tracks, audio tracks and special effects and plugins. And
we just don't get out here recorded and posted.
And we we try and be as good live as we can to not have to worry about it. And
you are and you appreciate you appreciate that. Getting back to not being perfect, though. You remind me of and I'm getting a visa Mary Poppins that's a very bad English accent. Another Dick Van Dyke. One of my favorite films is Chitty Chitty Bang, bang. And they have the song up from the ashes, which is exactly that sentiment that we keep trying and we get it wrong. And we learn from it. And we try again. This is to invent the flying car. So Oh,
yeah. Oh, I Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. All I remember is that there's a flying car and it has Dick VanDyke. Yeah. And we watched a million times when I was a kid we had on VHS. We didn't have a lot of money. So we
know petrified of the child catcher. You got been like completely haunted forevermore by the the
only things that I remember being horrified of and I still they freak me out a little bit from when I was a kid is darts because of an incident involving a dark going into my eye socket. Yeah. He's told, I've told that story on the show before a couple of times. So I'll tell you after we after we hit in the recording. Yeah. And then Pee Wee's Big Adventure. The Peewee Herman movie. Yeah, the large March scene with the truck driver, whose face turns into the claymation scary face.
And it's supposed to be funny. It's supposed to be funny, but when I was I don't even know how it was. But it scarred me. So bad
details made me afraid of manatees. Yep.
manatees, I
have no idea how there was an episode about this. Like, I think plush Manatee and it scared the crap out of me. For no reason.
I'm gonna see cow. Exactly. Okay, so let's get to that. Let's get to the topic at hand here. Yeah. All right. Let's start let's start with a couple of couple of big ones. In in America, a biscuit is just just like a Adobe bready like, fluffy thing that doesn't have a lot of flavor until you put butter on it, or jam or jelly or, you know, whatever you're like, in the mornings, I'll have a sausage biscuit or sausage and
egg biscuit. And if if you were to say a sausage and egg biscuit over there, because what's a biscuit over there?
That would be really very confusing. But I was thinking about this one as well, actually. So Whoo, I believe we're so I believe for you. It would be a cookie. So it's a sweet snack that is baked. But when I think of cookies, certainly here, we do have cookies we have like chocolate chip cookies. But we also have things like digestive biscuits and rich tea biscuits and Borbon biscuits and hobnobs, which are all different kinds of biscuits and I can't imagine that those
would be called cookies. Have you heard of mittens? digestives, I think I have
them but we never really get them. Like I've
seen them and And
then shortbread for example, shortbread is a biscuit.
Okay, so when I think yeah when I think British biscuit I think of like a smaller harder. Yeah cookie like I can like in like way it's mixed in like a Biscoff Have you ever seen the Biscoff cookies?
Yeah delicious
Have you ever uh Hold on let me let me let me tell you my my pro tip for everybody out there they sell them at the store. I thought you could only get them on Delta flights but
in this country it's in the head
so I got some My wife always grabs extra she takes business trips and she always gets extra when she's on the plane for me because she knows a loved one one time she had them in her purse and they got all crumbly right. And I was about to eat some ice cream. So I took and we just had regular vanilla ice cream and I've took the Biscoff crumbles and put it on the wall
you know you can get cakes make made from them. I have seen this scarf like mfine type cakes or people now have cakes with biscuit, biscuit icing and you can buy Biscoff branded cakes
and you can buy amazing they had Biscoff donuts at Christmas they had I mean you can also buy just the crumbles now just like bread crumbs or cookie crumbs are making roll Yeah. The levens oh my god but you can make you can make a pie crust out of them you know, something like that or not
small biscuits and biscuits can have if you watch the Great British Bake Off for example.
Leila loves so much.
It's a brilliant, it's beautiful. They will have biscuit week and they will make different types of biscuits and throughout Europe there are loads of different types of biscuits and they're not always as hard as a Biscoff Yeah, they might be a bit softer. They sound then you got the age old debate about whether a Jaffa Cake is a biscuit.
I don't know what a Jaffa Cake is. Google time. J A FFER.
A Oh, got
it. Got it got it looks
amazing.
Oh, that's a cookie. That was like really good. We
made it but it's very soft. The dough is very cake like wait and then you've got that soft orange in the middle and then the chocolate in the top.
Why does it Why does the package look like Kraft macaroni and cheese? It looks exactly like Kraft macaroni and cheese. Oh my gosh.
At least that brand the least.
Well yeah, this brand of it. Kraft mac is amazing.
I'm gonna find a recipe for those.
Well they've got them on Amazon. Well I don't want them $13 For for lamb, like point two seven kilograms whatever that means. Okay, so I'm going to share my screen real quick with you Claire and just show you let's see Kraft mac and cheese allow you got some Kraft mac and cheese right and then you got your jaffa cakes. Same colors, mac
and cheese where's the mac and cheese I could complain about the colors of that cheese because it shouldn't be orange.
Oh we that's one of those we eat it that's one of those things but we just we just look the other way on to talk about we look the other way on and
don't care. It tastes
like my my childhood.
And I cannot I don't like those little ones in the cups.
I've I've only seen like maybe five episodes of The Great British Bake Off and I like the ones with no fielding on him. Yeah, he's hilarious. He's he's so much fun. First time I ever saw him was on The IT Crowd. Yeah. Which I don't know if you've seen The IT Crowd. I've seen The IT Crowd Scott. RICHARD I watched a and Chris O'Dowd. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's one of my favorite shows of all time, not the American version that only had one episode and was terrible.
No fielding has recently done and you'll be able to find it now that we can share all of our Telly these days. And he's a highway man and it is so quintessentially silly and British comedy and very sweet. And of course I can't remember what it's called.
What's a highway man?
Dick Turpin, I think it might even be called dicta up and you know, like when the stagecoaches and then someone holds up the stagecoach with their gun and they ignore the stagecoach Ah, okay, so let's highway man. Okay, okay. Gotcha. Yeah. With his mask around is is
from from Old West COVID
because it looks cool.
Oh, gotcha. No, I I guess Yeah, I've heard However before that's, I was thinking it was maybe. Anyway. Right. So it's so it's a old timey thing with with him in it or is it current? And he likes current
Okay, currently and it's got it we'll probably even have Richard ID and oh, they all it's so sweet and very funny. It's filmed now and it's, but it's very it's kind of very modern in its themes as well. Okay,
okay. I'm sure it is. His comedy is very funny. So let's see what else is another big, big cultural difference t. When we say we're in North Carolina, you know, the South. When we say a T, it is assumed that it's iced tea, sweet tea. Yeah. If you're going to a place and you say I want tea. It's going to be I believe it's black tea. Is that what so it's black tea cooked or you know, brewed, iced cooked. And then they pour almost an equal amount of sugar as there is tea and
I'm not a fan. I don't like the sweetness of it. I drink it fun. Sweet. So I just drink cold black tea pretty much,
right? But yeah, that's so tea. If I go into a restaurant and say, I'll have some tea over there. What am I gonna get?
Well, the problem with that as well, David, is that what you'd have to really say? You wouldn't just say T because T might mean dinner, as well. So yeah, yeah. So especially in the north of England. So you have your different meals, you have your breakfast lunch, some people call dinner, tea, or you might have afternoon tea, which usually does involve a cup of tea, but it's sandwiches and cakes. So if you were to go into a restaurant or a pub or a cafe, you'd say can I have a cup of
tea or Tea for Two? And you would get a hot drink? Yes, you'd get you'd get the property before you all waited for it to cool down. But also people drink it with milk in which I don't do I drink it black, but it would usually be a black tea, maybe a Yorkshire tea or a nice strong builder's tea as we call them with some milk in it.
So so to make tea over there you would just take take your mug, fill it with cold water put it in the microwave, you'd
say that oh purpose
like right there.
I've got a cattle and property we have a cattle nice bags and nice. I've got the whole Senate we know how to we know we know what we're doing. Daily. I like the I like a what do I like? I like Earl Grey.
I like chai tea. I like to
try. I like green tea. Also
green tea is really good. I like Maggie and I like Sleepytime tea. Now
I don't like those ones. Yeah, some companies are really good too. It
depends. And if my throat hurt and I want a lemon something lemony, and then I'll put some honey and some whiskey in it. And that's normally it's
got nothing to do with the tea
hot water and tea and but it helps the throat if you've got a sore throat
but you have to you see obviously also I get very particular especially when you haven't black tea it's not so much when you have an infusions or even green tea. But in order for the tea to actually ship into the water and flavor the water water has to be bought boiling when you pour it on the
tea bag or in the tea pot. And the problem is is that a lot of our chain cafes over here now Starbucks whatever, they don't know how to make tea and and the English people are just going with it and following along and they'll put the tea bag next to the cup and I'm like how on earth is the flavor of the tea meant to get in the water? If the tea bag is next to the cup?
Leila gets mad at me if I squeezed the tea bag.
I do.
Thank you. Unless David breaks as he squeezes
when I go on it's what makes me when I pull the teabag out. I I give it Just a little squeeze. So when I'm transferring it from
the tea, the tea bags that
I'm not gonna drip. Yeah, I don't want to.
I think there's an art to that how much you squeezed the tea bag, depending on the person and how they like their tea. You're just not very thoughtful. David, are you? I'm,
I am so thoughtful. I think about everything too much. So while driving the wrong side of the road?
I don't know, I'm assuming we did it first. You see, the thing is, so I was. I was thinking about this. And the main. So for me as an editor of books, right, one of the main differences is obviously language and spelling, which I don't mind, I edit my books in American English because they usually get sold to American markets. So I'm well into all of that. But I did remember here and lots of people will be a bit snobby about, you know, like, losing the you in color and
having an A for gray instead of stuff like that. And I remember hearing a radio show where they were talking about Mr. Webster, of dictionary fame. And a, like, when the nation was being built, obviously, you know, they wanted to be their own thing. So they're like teenagers rebelling against. So they want to do things differently. So part of that with changing the language was having their own language being, you know, being their own
nation. But also Mr. Webb Webster actually quite rightly believed in just simplifying things a bit, because a lot of the English language was based on French and Latin languages. So there are some I mean, the English language can be it's
a mess, because we've talked about it before we've had all episodes.
Yeah, I mean, I will say that simplifying the language was not necessarily a bad thing. Like I say, some people are snobbish about it, but I don't mind. You can just spell something how it sounds in some cases,
right? Like a color was one that like the first time I saw to you, I was like, what is that? They put you in it? That is I
was using the you until I figured out you're not supposed to do it over here. Like I was spelling color with a you and armor with you. And then my like kindergarten teacher was like, you just go like that. Well,
you go with the first time you saw it, you know, you go with the first time you see it printed.
Now I think that's a deep set past life memory. I
was maybe Leila had a British teacher this year. She was amazing. And she would give her so much grief about British stuff. Yeah,
she had a kettle on the back of her. She had a whole tea station in the back of her room. And it was so sweet. And she had like a huge thermos that she would carry around there. She wouldn't share and I'm mad about it. I think it would be a good idea if you brought in like cups on the last day of school and let us all try your tea. And she was not like no, she had tried it before. And she like blew up the circuit.
Oh, she tried to. She might try to make it up hot water. Yeah.
Yeah. She make like a catalog tea. Twice a day.
Did she? Well, she might have not have said this to you in the class. But did she moan about the tea that she could buy there? Does she have to get a t shirt?
Right? A bunch? Like a whole big box and left in the back of our classroom?
What? Yeah, I think she means like, does she she never played about how much? Oh, no. Okay, so, like the types of tea you can get versus what
you can get over the type of tea she got. I could probably look it up real quick.
No, go for it. Have fun. What was the other thing I wanted to I wanted to ask, do you have 1000?
Pack? 1000 Yeah. Cool. Dogs have it in her.
Which I don't know how often, you know, she went back. Or she had relatives come in. Maybe they smuggled tea. You know? Yeah. Because like, that's, that's something that's done. I used to have a buddy that would come over from Oh, wow. I can't even remember the country. Who was Romania?
Was it PG? 10? Yeah. It's not my favorite one. To do. What should I do?
We had we had it on T It's just T T the T episode.
It was a tea party. It's a
tea party. Tea Party. We're going to with oh, there's a lady downtown. We live in a fairly fairly small city. I think 100,000 in the whole county 100,000 people. Yeah. And we have this one shop downtown that had a tea room and It was all like, jars, you know, so you would just scoop out scoop tank, and oh my gosh, I went back and I would just open it up and smell it. And I'd be like, smells good. You know, gets I don't I don't know anything about different leaves and
different whatever. And I go, I'm scooping it out. And as I get to the register to pay, there's nobody else in there and she sat there for 25 minutes, writing with Sharpie on each bag of tea. The exact temperature the water needed to be when we when we put it in exactly how long we need to steep it down to like 15 Second marks. So she's like, You need to save this for four minutes and 15 seconds, and then immediately removed the bag from the tea and make sure that your water temperature is
exactly this before you start. And I was like if she knew at all like she wasn't looking at a book she had like got like six different kinds of tea and she knew all of it for a mix and I'm like, wow. Wow, I was oh,
she was making it all up or she
was making it all up to look to look pretentious. Yeah. You know what I did? I went home turn the kettle on, waited till it finished, you know, until it automatically turned off poured the water and put the thing in Until when did something came back? Yeah, it looks good. Yeah. And then through some some Splenda in
and, and then you let it cool down and drinking cold.
No, I didn't drink it at all. He drank that. I don't drink at all. I was writing a novel at the time. And I would go and my my ritual was go make a cup of tea. Take a sip, Oh, that's too hot, I need to wait for it to cool down, set it down next to my laptop where I was typing, and writing and then look down and it was cold, completely cold. I hadn't taken I hadn't drunk anymore because I was working. I tend to do that I get into I get in the zone.
Good. You're in the flow. That's
the other night I came out here to fix a computer out to the studio. And I had to do some soldering and some a bunch of little stuff. I told my wife I'll be out here maybe 1520 minutes. Four hours later, I had no idea for hours at past because I finished that. And I found something else that needed to be done. And I found something else. Anyway. I get I get in the zone sometimes. Yeah. So what else? What else is
different? Is there anything that you have questions out about about America that may be or the South in particular that, you know,
don't think it really no. South isn't North isms, in middle isms? I mean, there's definitely a whole bit in the middle of America that I know absolutely nothing about. And that's another massive part as well. I mean, the whole country is massive. I know. Yeah. But that's really massive. Now, it all seems to come back with to food quite a lot. But there must be other thing. Food
foods, always a safe topic to talk about, you know, we can talk about that without offending anybody. Well, you'll offend somebody like microwaving the water content. Why does it make it taste weird? It's just all citation. Maybe it's something in the cup itself. But anyway, it's not radiation. It's yeah, it's radiation. And how am I
gonna tell you about an experiment? I did. So I was on a TV show. And it was an experiment. They were just filming in Oxford. And I said, Yeah, okay, I'll go. And what they did was they gave us these paper cups with tea. So you had one from this table? And then after that, you had one from another table. And then you meant to say like, what, you know what, you scored the T from the first table. And then what you scored the T from second table. Now everybody, apart from
me, scored the T on the second table as nicer. And the reason they all thought it was nicer was because the cup was weighted. And it made a difference to how people felt the tea tasted. I
believe that. Yeah. They did experiments with water. So you This made me think of this, where they put water in different kinds of vessels for you to drink out of, and is the same exact water they told people is different water. But it was the same water in a bunch of different glasses. And the wine glass, the very thin wine glass. Everybody agree that that
had to be the top dollar like cleanest water. So what you drink out of the lip feel has something to do with how something and yeah, I think about that sometimes and how dumb our brains are. Yeah. And then there was another one that this reminded me of I don't know why. They had the same chocolates wrapped in different wrappers. And they had a pile of chocolate that was one penny. And then they had a pile of
chocolate that was 25 cents. The wrappers didn't one didn't necessarily look nicer than the other one was like a red, red, basic thing and a blue basic thing, right? It was the same chocolate. But everybody, literally everybody said that the 25 cent chocolate tasted better. And yeah, just a psychological thing. So I just, I just told you all this stuff that we get her was the expensive version. And she's always like I'm buying, I'm buying artificial, you know, pig
meat. Telling her the finest pork salutely
What we're doing well speaking of speaking of chocolate, though, I have to blame the Americans for the decline in chocolate. And also for the sugar in our fizzy drinks as well. So we're getting more and more drinks that are more to what the American market is. And when Kraft bought some of our chocolate it was
like American chocolate. There's I can't remember what country it is. Some countries have determined as might be might be England, have determined that Hershey's chocolate can't call itself chocolate. Yeah, legally. Kind of like Pringles can't call itself chips. Because technically, it's ground up powderized potato and that's reformed into it. So they can't some
for this show. I have some like Harvest blend ones where it's like blended with cheap Cheetos. It tastes the exact same. Yeah, sweet,
sweet potato.
I don't know, the differences. It's just because we've traded on it. But we
have how often have you been? I know you were in Orlando. But how often have you been to America?
Um, I've Yeah, quite a few times.
Okay. Have you ever had like Southern cuisine, like pulled pork barbecue, or anything like that? Yeah.
Well, I don't eat meat. Oh, no, no. I mean, we went to this really lovely place. So very, very many years ago, when I was in between year two and three of university, I went to Tampa. And we got taken to one of these places where you just open the nuts from the barrel. So it was a bar, the nuts are all in the barrel and you open the monkey nuts and you just put the casings on the floor. And probably chicken. I don't I can't remember. Don't hold me to that. That sounds very American
to me. And the raccoon comes up. It's not trying to he's he's a normal natural raccoon. I've seen quite a few raccoon since in the bins and things when I've been. But it was very lovely to see this raccoon come up on the water. So I took my husband the next year. He wasn't my husband then back to that. And he loved that whole vibe of it. That felt really American just breaking out in the nuts thrown it on the floor. That was like American Bar. Yeah,
we used to have that here. But they stopped it during COVID. Yeah, the place Yeah. Place Called Logan's. Yeah, that has a big when you walk
in the whole thing of peanuts. Yeah. Just pay a
bucket of peanuts on every table. Yeah. And the floor was just covered in peanut shells.
Yeah. And it had kind of like, is,
may have you been to one in Clearwater or somesuch. Right? We were just along that from there. And we went to another place in it's not exactly clear water called Crabby Bills. And that was lovely. It's very American.
We've got where we are. We had, we took a friend of ours from California, wanted to go to
a real southern place deep south
place, like something very the South because he's never really been right, because he's never really been to the south, you know? And we picked him up. And he's like, I'm buying y'all dinner where, you know, it's gotta be southern food. I got you, buddy. And we went to a pulled pork barbecue. I don't remember what the places called. But they're all the same. There's a bunch of scattered all around. And it's pulled pork. Which means they just take the whole pig and put
it on the grill and cook it for a couple days. And then pull it out. You know, pull the meat out. Yeah. And it's very tender. Very and then they cover it in this vinegar based barbecue sauce. And it's about the most southern meal. Yeah, and then had fried chicken and hush puppies. And if you're not sure what hush puppies are, you might be but our audience might know it. It's basically a little cornbread balls with onions. Which
I'm not a big fan. I
love them. Right I like but yeah, very, very southern southern meal. What would you say if we were to come visit you? And we said take us to the Oxford of food. Like what is the food of Oxford? Okay,
so well what I think what I would do very easily I would take you to a quintessentially country hob so it would have beans and a fireplace and leather so furs and warm Vidya you know how you like your warm beer bloggers as well but you know, ales on tap and stuff and different different ones for the different season. And then what we'd like the menu to be would be slightly up market, for example fish and chips or a pie, a pie and mash, but we'd have good, proper
ingredients in it. And a pie has to be a proper pie. This was this wasn't the case for a few years, where it's cooked completely encased in the pastry. Because for a while though, people were set pubs were serving kind of like meat stews, with a pastry top and it hasn't been cooked in the pastry, their pastries not all nice and soggy. So I would definitely go for something like that proper kind of stuff. You will have heard of like big sausages and mash and onion
gravy. Or like I said fish and chips. Yes, a big hearty and then of course, the sponge puddings with custard so a Jam Roller polling on an apple crumble or they have big hearty warming, puddings. So and then you wouldn't be able to move from the, from the chair by the fire for a while.
That's that's typical. Anytime I go to a buffet I hate myself after and I don't feel like I got my money's worth unless I hate myself after I after I leave. So one of the things you said to the things you said there's two things, that means something very different there than they mean here. If you say pudding here, it's like a cup of sweet gelatin. Like a pudding like a snack pack. That when somebody says pudding in America, that's what we think. Yeah. tapioca
pudding, chocolate pudding. And when you say pie, you think dessert. Like there's there's less, you'd have to put the word pot in front of it. Before pie so a pot pie.
So that must mean that must be what it is then because to me a pot pies down sounds like a kind of stew in a pie form. That's
pretty much it apart pie we get them for? Well, they used to be 75 cents. Now they're a buck 30. But using the same pie
here you're thinking of like a sweet like apple pie. Or
pecan pie if you're in the South for like fruit
of some sort. Yeah, some sweet.
Yeah, obviously we would have we would have both savory and sweet apple pie. Lemon Marang pie. Yep. But we also do have a pudding that can be savory. And it's a Sumit dough. And it's cooked in the same way as a pie. So it's got a meaty filling in it. But the pastry isn't as crunchy. The pastry is quite soft. So there is like a kind of meat pudding as well as a meat pie. And there is an apple pie as well. And there is a chocolate pudding.
Right? So it's more complicated too. So if I go there, I'm like, I'll just have some putting. There's like questions after that. If I get put in here, the only question would be you know, chocolate, vanilla or tapioca? Yeah. Or banana that do banana pudding. Yeah, with
vanilla wafers. Yeah, vanilla wafers, which,
I guess would be biscuits. I would I could consider vanilla biscuits. Yes. Yeah, that's a I'd say I'm learning. I'm a thoughtful person, but
also the connection between chips crisps and fries.
Yeah,
we call them fries. Y'all call them chips. And then you call chips for us. Crisps.
Yes. Yeah. So when you said about Pringles couldn't be called. Chips. Yeah. They're not called chips anyway Leila.
Work longtime listeners will know I used to work at Outback and we called the fries chips. Because they do in Australia and that got so hammered into us. Like as servers we could not call them fries. We had to call them chips. It was like a branding thing. So in my brain fries are as much chips as they are fries.
But I would and it does come up on menus in pubs. Fries are like the skinny chips, french fries, and they might then call chip they might make that differentiation so they do have chips as well which are thicker potato fried, not wedges, but in between fries and wedges. But they might also call fries fries, because because they because they do fries as well. So they do skinny chips and fatter chips. I
wish that there was a differentiation here about that because you'll say I'll have an order of fries and sometimes you'll get like Keep the McDonald's real small square, you know, rectangle square tubes, right this square tubes, but then you'll go some places and they'll be these big fat ones that are all soggy in the middle. Yeah, I like the real
small thin ones. It gets super crunchy. I like that's what I like both and then you'll get seasoned to win sometimes a non season one sometimes and like Bojangles
I love it. Well, the other place the other place. We'll have to go when you come here after we've been to the country Pub is on another night we'll get fish and chips from the fish. In my case, I live in a village so I have a fish and chip van that comes around once a week. That's awesome. Wow. Yeah, I know. All the fish and chip shop because those chips are completely different. Yeah, they still potato
because we used to have someone in the neighborhood sell barbecue sandwiches. Yeah,
walk over. He has a food truck. And on Wednesday nights he would just fire up the food truck for the neighborhood. Yes, so people would walk Yeah, walk down the block and get some some food truck we live out and we love we live way out our our neighborhoods probably five miles from the closest town give or take two miles and 15 miles from the real like this small city. So are we have fields just empty fast. So our neighborhood 100 houses or so. But then around our neighborhood is
nothing. Just yeah, soybean fields, corn fields, deer.
A lot of deer are so many great for my dear fear. I have a fear of deer.
She's afraid. Have you heard that story? Have you listened to the episode? I'll give you the real quick version.
Yeah, please.
It's been a while we were in Sam's Club.
Oh, no, it was what you told me actually David yourself when it came into
the Yeah, it was in the Sam's Club. And it came running straight out, which is really fun.
We were in Sam's Club recently, like two days ago. And we heard like the alarm go off the same as the alarm that happened when the deer came in. grabbed my mom's arm. It was scary.
But one of the things that gets me I'm sitting here looking at your at your, your island. You're on. It's so small. I know. Like and I think about I think about like we take road trips regularly that are eight hours driving. Yeah, that's that's a regular thing for me. Anywhere not a big deal. But eight hour I'm looking from like I just picked two places. I knew the names of the warrant. London, a Kent and Oxford. And that's like, a quarter of the country wide. It's only two
hours. Yeah. So if you do eight hours, you're going from one side of the country to the other like the whole Yeah, I'm like wow. No,
one of the other people I met at pod fest actually, Shona we were talking about and and she was talking about like grep traveling 15 hours to get like from one side of something to the other. Yeah, it's it's completely different. Like I went up to Newcastle, which to me is a long way that I didn't want to drive it. So I went on the train for three hours.
My brother lives in Hawaii. And any anything more than a 20 minute drive for him. He's like, Oh, or is it not even do it? Unless it's unless it's for like nothing is further away than 35 minutes. And that's if there's traffic. So I find it It's funny how like you get used to having everything nearby that you need
will regularly take like 20 minute trips to go so yeah, it's 20
minutes to get anywhere useful. Yeah, from our house other than the post office or the little grocery store. So 20 minutes, shot us for the car and then like we just took a trip over to Tennessee and that was an eight hour drive. When I went down to Orlando that was eight and a half hours give or take and yeah, so it I find it interesting when you when you've got a smaller landmass you get so used to things being close that like, Yeah, four hours for you driving is just ridiculous.
That's what Yeah, yeah, I
think I'd do. I'd do three if I had to, but I still prefer to go on the train anyway. But yeah, you can you know, you can get places in four hours. So
the trains, they're gonna be wrapping up here pretty soon. The trains there. Is it how expensive is it to go on the train from like, yeah,
it's quite expensive.
Because we don't have a lot of trains most of the trains in America or freight trains. We have one train company, which is actually run by the government now is Amtrak? Yeah. They are so expensive and so inefficient. It's like to get a place that's should be eight hours driving takes like 36 hours. Yeah. But I also understand you're again, you're all much law smaller landmass. And tracks are probably expensive to put down.
So I mean from here to California, it's 50 hours in the car or something so yeah,
yeah, you can fly you can fly can you?
Oh, well not me personally, but I can use a plane and I can get on the plane and fly.
I'm not so impressed anymore
but anyway, I think we'll wrap this up. We've been going for almost an hour now so yeah, won't take any more your time you got your you got your you got your Asian food to go get tonight? Do you know, you're rolling the dice. You know, just
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For those who don't know, I have a visor that has fake hair sticking out the top. I know you all know I'm bald. But um, it looks like my hair looks. It looks like my hair looked in the 90s. So a 90s night I had to wear it. And it was funny because I hadn't met a lot of the people at the convention, or the conference or even call it and a lot of these people didn't know that it was fake. So when I took it off to like, wipe the sweat off of my head. It was a everybody who saw it just busted
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