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What would Kevin Warsh’s Federal Reserve look like?

Feb 02, 202612 min
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This episode explores Europe's largest oil companies' decision to cut shareholder payouts amid weakening crude prices and geopolitical tensions. It also delves into Kevin Warsh's controversial vision for the Federal Reserve, including plans for a balance sheet overhaul and a rethought Fed-Treasury Accord, facing significant internal resistance. Additionally, it covers the global crisis involving major baby formula makers due to contaminated ingredients, and the "pandemonium" in the New York Diamond District caused by extreme volatility in gold and silver prices.

Episode description

Europe’s largest oil companies are poised to curb share buybacks, and Kevin Warsh’s nomination to Fed chair could spark a rethink of how America’s central bank works. Plus, consumer giants deal with backlash over contaminated baby formula. And, a rollercoaster in precious metals prices triggers ‘pandemonium’ in New York’s Diamond District.


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Europe’s oil majors prepare to cut billions in shareholder payouts

Kevin Warsh’s nomination as Fed chair to spark rethink of bank’s role

Nestlé and Danone hit by backlash over contaminated baby formula

Gold and silver tumult triggers ‘pandemonium’ in New York’s Diamond District


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Today’s FT News Briefing was hosted by Victoria Craig, and produced by Fiona Symon and Julia Webster. Our show was mixed by Alex Higgins. Additional help from Peter Barber. Our executive producer is Topher Forhecz. Cheryl Brumley is the FT’s Global Head of Audio. The show’s theme music is by Metaphor Music. 


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Transcript

Intro / Opening

Markets move fast. Get the insights you need in 10 minutes with Barclays Brief, a podcast from Barclays Investment Bank. Each week, our experts analyze market themes, helping you anticipate what's next. Listen to Barclays Brief, wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning from the Financial Times. Today is Monday, February 2nd, and this is your FT News briefing.

Low crude prices are prompting some belt tightening for Europe's oil majors. And what could the Federal Reserve look like under a chair, Kevin Walsh? Plus, consumer giants are facing a growing crisis after a widespread infant formula. Something like this can irreparably Destroy a reputation of a brand. For years and years to come. I'm Victoria Craig, and here's the news you need to start your day.

European Oil Companies Cut Payouts

Europe's biggest oil companies are expected to slash billions of dollars in shareholder payouts. Shell BP and Total Energies report their full year earnings this month, and analysts predict the companies will slow share buyback. By as much as twenty-five percent. It's in a move to protect their balance sheets as oil prices are expected to continue weakening due to geopolitical tensions.

In recent years, European oil majors have plowed more than half their cash flow into repurchasing their shares. That shrinks the number of them in circulation and supports the stock price. Overall, UBS says the industry has cut its share count by about a fifth since 2021.

Kevin Warsh's Federal Reserve Vision

In the days since U.S. President Donald Trump nominated Kevin Walsh to head up the Federal Reserve, plenty of Wall Street heavyweights have piled on the praise. But others are wary about Warsh's desire to radically transform the world's most important central bank.

And there's still a long road between Walsh and the top seat at the Fed. My colleague Claire Jones, the FT's US economics editor, is here to talk about what monetary policy might look like if Warsh is confirmed by the Senate. Hi, Claire. Hi, Victoria. So Worsh himself was a Fed governor during the two thousand eight financial crisis when the Fed started its massive and controversial bond buying program.

But in the years since he's been much more critical of what he sees as the sort of mission creep at the Fed. What kind of changes does he want to make to the central bank? I think something that's been really interesting about Walsh's candidacy is that a key aspect of what he's brought to the table is this idea that The Fed needs a fundamental overhaul and in particular it needs regime change on its bloated balance sheet. Now the Fed's balance sheet

really has soared in size since the global financial crisis of two thousand and eight. And that's something that Walsh really wants to challenge. The other issue here is Fed independence, which has been a key focus over the past year or so. We've talked so many times with you about this as President Trump has put a constant pressure on Jerome Powell to lower rates. Where does Warsh come down on this issue?

Walsh is someone who really understands that the central bank needs to be free from political interference when it sets interest rates. However, he has been advocating for a rethink of the Fed Treasury Accord, which is a document that came about in the nineteen fifties and is seen as one of the underpinnings of the Fed's independence to Set interest rates free from political pressure. Now, to be sure, Walsh isn't talking about ripping up that accord.

But he wants it rethought in a way where there'd be a smaller role for the US central bank and a bigger role for the US Treasury. And how does that align with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's thinking about the role of the Fed in the economy? A lot of what Walsh has been saying chimes closely with what Scott Bessent has been arguing as well. Besant said in quite a long and detailed article

last year that, you know, the Fed had been susceptible to what he referred to as gain of function. He thought it'd really become too powerful. And both he and Walsh think that's something that they really need to challenge now. So how are people within the Fed now reacting to this view of Warsh's desire to shrink the central bank's role?

So I think there's two aspects of this. I mean a lot of the criticism of Bescent and of Walsh has been about quantitative easing, which is the programme under which the US central bank has bought trillions of dollars worth of US government and US government agency bonds. Fed officials very much think QE, as it's known, is part of the usual central bank toolkit. So they really disagree with what Walsh and Bessend have been saying about this.

The other aspect is on shrinking the balance sheet right now. Fed officials are really, really reluctant to do this. They think it ad cause a lot of turmoil in money markets in the US. And I think there will be a very strong pushback if Walsh wants to push through measures that would lead to a shrinking of the balance sheet very quickly. How likely is it that Walsh will be able to make these changes that he wants to?

I think it's gonna be tough. I think he's gonna face a lot of internal resistance. within the Federal Open Market Committee, which sets US interest rates. I think he could face resistance from other members of the Fed board, including perhaps Jay Powell, if he stays on as governor. I think he also could face resistance from the White House on this.

If he rapidly shrinks the US central bank's balance sheet, that's gonna push up most likely longer term US interest rates. It's gonna lead to people who wanna buy a house in the US. having higher mortgage borrowing costs. And it's also gonna lead to the US government having to pay more to borrow potentially. So I don't get the impression that is what Trump wants from his Federal Reserve chair either.

I'm sure there will be plenty more for us to dissect in the months ahead. Claire Jones, the FT's US economics editor. Thanks so much for chatting about this. No problem. Great to be on the show.

Global Baby Formula Contamination Backlash

Three of the world's biggest baby formula makers are facing a growing backlash. That's after an ingredient they sourced from a single supplier in China was contaminated with a dangerous toxin. Nestle, Danon, and Lactalis potentially added the toxin to hundreds of product lines before shipping them out. to more than sixty five countries across five continents. To break all of this down, I'm joined by the FT's Madeline Speed, who's been reporting on this story. Hi, Madeline.

Hi Victoria. So just walk us through this timeline. How was this contamination first discovered? So the contamination was first discovered by Nestle, which is the world's biggest infant formula maker, uh, back in December when they were doing routine checks on uh one of their factories in the Netherlands. and they found traces of this toxin called cerrilli, which can be very dangerous. It can cause vomiting and food poisoning uh in infants who consume it.

They then told authorities and then started trying to get to the bottom of where this had come from. This took a number of weeks'cause they had to test literally every single ingredient in multiple different product lines and they eventually traced it to an ingredient called ARA oil. which they had bought from a supplier in Wuhan in China.

Now we should mention Nestle told the FT it acted swiftly to notify all stakeholders about this issue. Lactalis told us it applies strict quality and safety protocols. And it pointed out that this particular toxin isn't on a list of required regulatory controls for infant products. Danon declined to comment. But widening this out a little bit, Madeline, there's been a big market reaction to this discovery. What's been happening?

Yeah, so after Nestlé flagged this, a number of other companies realized that their products were also potentially affected because they used the same supplier. So we've seen Nestlé as well as French group Danone have both seen their share prices fall significantly since they announced quite widespread recalls. Analysts have been estimating

the revenue losses that might happen as a result of these recalls. So in the case of Nestle, Jeffrey's analysts estimated that they could lose up to one point six billion euros of revenue. For Dano it's a bit smaller. It just affected sales of about Forty million. Because it's a more limited recall. But beyond those, you have the financial, less quantifiable financial impact. Something like this can irreparably destroy a reputation of a brand.

for years and years to come until that company can rebuild back the trust of parents. And you reported that public health charities are calling for tighter controls on the sector. Does this point to wider problems with regulating this industry? The industry always points out that this sector is already incredibly highly and intensely regulated. That being said, there are still regular and frequent recalls, crises, shortages, and regulatory scandals that seem to occur on a very regular basis.

So last week the European Food Safety Authority announced that it was updating its scientific advice on cellulide, the toxin that was found in the ingredient. And this is essentially going to establish a safe amount of the toxin that can be used in an infant formula. And detect it in a formula before it is then gonna be triggering a recall. That's quite a quick turnaround and a quick reaction to an incident like this which shows the sort of severity and urgency of this global crisis.

Certainly a story for all of us to keep our eyes keenly focused on. Madeline Speed is the FT's Consumer Industries reporter. Thanks so much for your time, Madeline. Thanks so much for having me.

Precious Metals Market Rollercoaster

Before we go, there's been a lot of volatility in the price of gold and silver recently. The latter surged to a record high on Wednesday and then plunged 20% on Friday to a 2008 low. Our reporter found that that has caused pandemonium in New York's famed Diamond District. At least three large refineries on the so-called Jewelers Row took the unusual step last week of closing to retailers.

That's after one shop owner described what he saw as panic selling. Worries over inflation, a weaker dollar, and unpredictable US policy making are behind the severe price swings. One dealer called it insane crazy times. But an exciting moment to be in the medals game. You can read more on the precious metals roller coaster and all of today's stories for free when you click the links in our show notes. This has been your daily FT News briefing. Check back tomorrow for the latest business news.

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