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Has meme-stock kid Robinhood grown up?

Feb 14, 202510 min
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Arm plans to launch its own chip this year, and Shein’s IPO will likely be delayed after US President Donald Trump’s crackdown on tariff-free imports. Plus, Robinhood has evolved from an app that sprayed digital confetti when customers made their first trade to one that aims to serve as a broader financial services platform.


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Arm secures Meta as first customer for ambitious new chip project

Shein IPO plans hit by Trump’s low-cost parcels crackdown

Has meme-stock kid Robinhood finally come of age?


The FT News Briefing is produced by Fiona Symon, Sonja Hutson, Kasia Broussalian, Ethan Plotkin, Lulu Smyth, and Marc Filippino. Additional help from Breen Turner, Sam Giovinco, Peter Barber, Michael Lello, David da Silva and Gavin Kallmann. Our engineer is Joseph Salcedo. Topher Forhecz is the FT’s executive producer. The FT’s global head of audio is Cheryl Brumley. The show’s theme song is by Metaphor Music.


Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com


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Good morning from the Financial Times. Today is Friday, February 14th, and this is your FT News Briefing. Arm is causing a stir with a new chip project and Shein. might have to pump the brakes on going public. Plus, the online brokerage firm Robinhood finally has a feather in its cap. So from what looked like a fintech startup in 2021... It's different now. It looks like it's grown up. I'm Mark Filippino, and here's the news you need to start your day.

ARM will launch its own chip this year after securing Meta as one of its first customers. The move by the chip designer could upend the balance of a $700 billion industry. I'm joined now by Tim Bradshaw, our global tech correspondent who helped break this story. Hi, Tim. Hey, Mark. All right, Tim. So can you remind us exactly what ARM does now and how the move into chip manufacturing will... essentially change its business model. So ARM is in many ways the most ubiquitous

tech company that you may never have really heard of because they operate behind the scenes. They make the blueprints, the designs that go into the chips that are made by companies like Apple and NVIDIA in the iPhone or the GPUs that power AI.

And they have always been kind of Switzerland in the tech industry. They have had to work with lots of companies that... compete fiercely with each other they had to kind of balance that very delicately and they license their intellectual property to everybody and moving into making their own chip

brings them into competition with their own customers, who just happen to be some of the world's most valuable companies. Yeah, so what does it mean that companies like Meta are looking to buy chips from ARM? So if we go back... 20, 30 years, the number of companies that could design chips was pretty small. And since Apple showed the world what you could do when you design your own chips for your own products, basically every...

tech company with the resources to do it has started trying to design their own chips too. And so we've seen Microsoft, Amazon, Google especially, all move into designing their own chips. chips especially for the data centers these huge server systems that are becoming ever more energy intensive as we move into the ai era

And so ARM's designs are already ubiquitous in a lot of these data centers. And it is now trying to help those companies that do not have the resources to develop their own chips by selling them a finished product. And Meta is the first customer that we have learned for this for... ARM, but we expect there will be many more. How could ARM's announcement affect the AI and semiconductor industry more broadly? By moving into territory that competes with its own customers.

could do one of two things. It could start to really supercharge its revenues because it's suddenly selling a full chip rather than just getting a sliver of royalty for each one that's sold. And it kind of...

goes from being a behind-the-scenes player in the chip industry to being one of the main actors. Or it terrifies all of its big tech customers, who have pretty deep pockets at this point, and they say, well, it'll be hard to replicate arms technology, but if they're going to compete with us, well...

we can make that investment. And they kind of risk scaring off all of those very big customers. So it's pretty high stakes stuff, not just for Arm, but also for the kinds of investments that all of these big tech companies are going to be making in chips for the next five or 10 years. Tim Bradshaw is the FT's global technology correspondent. Thanks so much, Tim. Thank you. Arm share price jumped on yesterday's news and ended the day up more than 6%.

Sheehan is thinking about putting its plans for an initial public offering on hold. There have been whispers that the Chinese fast fashion company plans to go public in the UK as soon as the end of April. But sources told the FT that US President Donald Trump's crackdown on free imports might push that IPO back to later in the year.

The repeal of de minimis rules would mean that shipments worth less than $800 would start getting hit with tariffs. That's a huge deal for Xi'an, which sends a lot of those kinds of products to the U.S. The de minimis repeal is in pause mode right now, but sources say Shein is still concerned about the impact it could have on its IPO. Sheehan was valued at £66 billion during its most recent funding round in 2023, and it could add a lot of shine to London's somewhat lackluster capital markets.

It wasn't that long ago that Robinhood was kind of considered a joke. The online broker and trading platform was the home of the 2021 meme stock craze. You guys remember GameStop? The point is that Robinhood was the place where amateur investors trolled the markets. But now Robinhood seems to be all grown up, as the FT's U.S. markets editor Jen Hughes is here to tell me. Hey, Jen. Hey there.

So give me a quick sense of just how big of a turnaround we've seen from Robin Hood. What's its story? Well, you put the first part of the story there already. The meme stock mania went. People were stuck at home. It was the pandemic. Everyone had stimulus checks to spend and not much else to do. That was the peak for Robinhood back in the day. Then we had what I kind of call the wilderness years. It did its own IPO. It went public itself, but its shares absolutely tanked.

They were down something like 80% in the next year because people went back to work, trading volumes dropped off, and it kind of went away from people's consciousness. But a lot has changed in the last year, and it's really riding high at the moment. Yeah, it sounds like just a real roller coaster ride. Give me a sense of how well it's doing now. Well, the shares are up more than 400% in the last year. They're well back past their IPO price, above that now.

It just announced blowout fourth quarter numbers and its first full calendar year of net profitability. So from what looked like a fintech startup in 2021, it looks like it's grown up. What is behind all this newfound success? How did Robin Hood do it?

Some of it is down to the market mood. We've had this sort of crypto trading period since the US election in November. This is the sense that the Trump administration is going to come up with a regulatory framework for crypto and then the whole market can go mainstream. because it would be safer for mom and pop investors and for everyone to get into. But at the same time, Robinhood has been steadily building out new products.

did a credit card last year more recently they added futures trading they now have this cool desktop product with serious charting capabilities that's for like the more active traders So when people have looked at Robinhood, they're looking again now like we are. It's very different. Is for a more maybe mature investor or is it just got more mature products? Yeah, a more mature investor.

it won't just be the millennials trading on it it will also be perhaps mom and pop but also those millennials are a couple of years older they're a little bit wealthier And they've got a few more reasons to stick around. Now it's trying to do other things. So it's trying to offer retirement products.

savings products, so it's working towards being a one-stop shop for financial services. It's got a huge way to go before it looks like a Fidelity or a Schwab or something of that size, but that's kind of the pathway. Yeah, I was actually going to ask you about that. Do you think that Robinhood's success is sustainable or is this a blip? That's putting a reporter on the spot.

Sorry, Jen. But honestly, I have to say, yes, mostly it is sustainable. By that, I mean that the longer term trends... are there in its favor there really is a sort of a new army of retail traders not everybody stopped when they went back to work after the pandemic and what's got a lot of the analysts excited this time is the idea that If we get this regulatory framework that everyone expects at some point around crypto, then the market in the US gets so much bigger.

And if Robinhood can keep up with these guys and offer them more and more, it should grow. Jen Hughes covers US financial markets for the FT. Thanks, Jen. Thank you. Donald Trump brought the world one step closer to a global trade war yesterday. He ordered his advisors to come up with reciprocal tariffs to retaliate against countries that impose taxes and levies on the U.S.

The measures will happen on a country-by-country basis, according to a senior White House official. Up first are the ones that the U.S. has the biggest trade deficits with, like China, the European Union, and Mexico. The official also said the reciprocal tariffs could take effect in a matter of a few weeks or months.

You can read more on all these stories for free when you click the links in our show notes. This has been your daily FT News Briefing. Check back next week for the latest business news. And me, Mark Filippino. Our engineer is Joseph Salcedo. He had help this week from Michaela Tindera, Persis Love, Sam Giovinco, Breen Turner, David DaSilva, Michael Lello, Peter Barber, and Gavin Kallman. Our executive producer is Topher Forges.

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