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SEUSSI. Here it is Thursday, December seventh. We are live on YouTube and the Friday Night Drive Facebook page, and we are here to talk the IHSA district proposal which went to UH, which went to the schools this week, so vote. They will be voting this week and next week. We'll find out the results of that right before Christmas time. SEUs, this is not the first time we've had this discussion and a vote on the ISSA district proposals. UH. This is the second time we've gone through this. The
plan was scrapped the first time around. You know, what are you hearing from school so far this week? Well, I think a lot of people, you know, I guess, have expressed appreciation for, you know, the project that I put together, you know, early in this week in regards to mocking up the districts. Because one important component in this process that is different from last time is nor the not the policy submittered, nor the
IHSA have any plans to put out what this looks like. So those that wanted to know more about the process, those that wanted to know how it might look for their individual school and football in general, were kind of out in the dark on this. They I mean, they had to kind of go on their own gut and you know, trusting that they've interpreted the red
proposal the way that they think that they did. So basically, I've got a lot of feedback from a lot of people talking about how, you know, we kind of like the way that this looks, or you know, we don't like the way that this looks, you know, and I think, you know, there's been a in my mind, there's been a majority of people on the side of we don't like the way that this looks. But I've also heard through the grape vine and talking to a lot of people.
I mean, I think there's I don't know if it's a silent majority, but there are a lot of people that I have not heard from that I know are for this. So I think ultimately we've got a very interesting vote coming our way over the next two weeks. I'm trying to figure out if I'm insulated being up here in the Northwest suburbs where I know the support for the district proposal is a lot lower and I'm just in an echo chamber. But I'm not like last time, there was a fair amount of public
support for the district system when we went through this before. I have not come across that at all so far. Suits it's been very overwhelmingly against the district system. As you said, you think there's maybe not a silent majority, but a fair amount of people that are our school district that are going to vote for this proposal. Can you kind of walk us through what or
you know those groups that you think will vote in favor of this. First off, well, I think some of it came down to some of the reason that I believe that is I got some feedback from people at the town meetings that were saying, hey, you know, this town meeting completely against But there were other town meetings. For example, I heard through the grapevine. I believe it was in Pontiac. I could be wrong about the location.
That there were sixteen representatives at that town meeting. All sixteen voted in support of putting this on the proposal on the ballot. So that may not necessarily mean that those schools are going to vote for it in the long run, but they at least thought it had enough merit to be put on the ballot. So that tells me that in certain areas, yes, there are people out there that at least support discussing this and put it in putting it on the ballot to get a better look at it. And that's kind of
where it comes down to. I think what it really what it really comes down to, is that there are a lot of conferences in the state of Illinois where you've got where you go across maybe two or three classifications, you maybe you got a four, A five, a six A conference. You know, a three, A four, a five a conference, and a
lot of times not every time. The stacking order, the relative stacking order of how those conferences usually finish out are kind of heavily tied to the size of the school you will find those four A, five A, six A conferences where it's usually the five and six A conference teams at the top of the conference and the smaller schools at the bottom. And those schools are frankly not that thrilled about consistently, you know, finding themselves at the bottom of
this. So their want is to play schools of similar location, I mean, a similar enrollment, And I can understand that, and you know, they want they want the stability of having, you know, it kind of locked in for them not having to worry about you know, hey, what happens if this team, you know, decides to go to a man or what happens if this team decides to go to another conference and then leaves us with an odd number and a weird date in our schedule that we're gonna have
difficulty filling. In some ways, I think that might be a little bit short sighted, because there's no way that you can guarantee that those kinds of things won't happen to you. In the district system. Yeah, now there really isn't. You could get to you get to August and two year district members could decide that they don't have enough teams to carry on in the varsity, you know, the varsity football system. So then you've got two open
dates and absolutely no way to fill them. I mean, are you gonna break up every other district to fill your holes? No, you're not gonna do that. So I mean it's that logistically when we come down to and we'll discuss this as we go. I just don't the rigidness of this proposal is a real problem for a lot of people, not just myself, but the fact that you know, set numbers, set things, no no wiggle room, and that's in you know, travel considerations and all these other things.
So there are various reasons, and I understand the schools that are staunchly in support, But like I've said multiple times in this proceeding, are we fixing problems? Are we shifting problems? Like are the schools that are getting fixed out of this situation? Uh? Yeah, sure they're gonna they're gonna vote for this, But are those problems gone or are they simply being shifted to different schools that now have to deal with the same problems that other schools
did. And I think there's a lot of shifting and not so much fixing in this proposal. Yeah, so it's a pretty vague proposal. We're gonna get into it. We're gonna compare it to the last time we went through this compared to this time. We'll look at the mack districts that you can find right now at Friday Night Drive dot Com at Suit's put together later or earlier this week. You can find Suits on X at the Suits. You can find myself on X at Kyle Neighbors, and you can find Friday Night
Drive on X at f and Driver. Also on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok as well, and of course go to Friday Nightdrive dot com all off season long. We got tons of coverage for you guys over there, sus. John is joining us live this morning on Facebook, which again, if you guys are lied with us on YouTube or Facebook, we really appreciate it. Subscribe to the channel, leave us a thumbs up. You can jump in and ask a question or leave a comment. John says, this is a
good way to frame it for us here. Suits says, we talked about this a little bit, but with teams switching conferences every year and other schools getting shoved into conferences at the competition, parody is way off. That said, what's the quick pros con pro con for not doing a district system. How about let's let's start with the pros quickly. I mean the pros it's to Bill. I mean, you have a situation where you have a locked
in schedule. You don't have to worry about, you know, having to find a week four game, for example, against someone somewhere because your conference has an imbalanced number of teams, and you know, it sets you up in that sense, and there are schools that have problems with that, and with that, in the way that the system is written, you're you're you're at least getting yourself closer to a schedule where you're playing schools of like enrollments.
That doesn't necessarily mean it's like competitive level, though I'll try not to get too much into the cons, but it's I think that's attractive to some programs to get themselves in a situation where they're no longer the small fish in a big pond. It's more or medium sized fish of all the same size
in the same pot. That's that's an attractive situation for some schools. So I think those are the really base positives of this about the cons well, I think you know, there are reasons why schools elect not to schedule other programs. Some of them might be completely valid, some of them might not be. But you lose the autonomy of having the choice of the system. If you get placed in a district with you know, schools that you've elected to not play for years, you don't have a choice. You have to
play those schools. The conference system, for whatever flaws it has, allows you to group yourself with teams of you know, like minded philosophies and thoughts, and you might find some i un you know, pairings that are not great for everybody. But there's no situation districts or conference situation where everyone's going
to be perfect and happy with the way that this happens. It's just not going to happen other cons It's not as simple as just saying, oh, who are the seven two AA teams closest to me, We'll just make a nice little district out of That doesn't work that way. I mean, all hands have to wash other ones. There's some giant travel breakdowns that come out of this system, where in the conference system, your farthest opponent might be an hour away, and but there are systems in this district where all of
your opponents are two plus hours away. It's just partly, particularly in the upper levels where you have only a few of you know, like Class seven A and eight eight teams in the southern portion of the state. We'll get into that. We will show some of the the mock districts that suits it put together here in little bit. But yeah, I mean you're gonna have a lot of instances. I see this question from Josh Reich. Josh says, in a distresses and would in Carbondale will have to travel six hours for
every Friday night away game. No, they wouldn't. I mean there are enough. There are enough teams down in the southern portion of state where in their classification where they are they four? I believe they're five in this this mock up where they where they sit in a situation where they have, you know, teams within an hour and a half two hours of them. They're
actually not the extreme example of this. I think the more extreme examples can be considered an eight A where you've got Edwardsville, O'Fallon one of the Belleville schools, where they're coupled with Lockport Manooka and the two Joliet schools. So let's look at that. You're looking at it right now, I mean, yeah, I got that up on the screen. If you're listening to the podcast version of this. By the way, I quickly say just want to say, make sure you go to Friday night. You can see the maps
just out the district. So who's actually mapped out each class when you put them in here? So like, yeah, you can see those purple dots all the way down there by Edwardsville and Belleville compared to the rest of class a day. Yeah, So in that situation, you got three teams down there, you're gonna have to, you know, from the north, You're gonna have to travel to at least one of those every year, and you're gonna have you know, maybe one or two of those teams coming back to
you every single week. Those teams. You know, that's why the conference system, especially in situations like the Southwestern Conference, simply work better because it's a grouping of somewhat similar enrollments kind of all together there. And what you get in here is you get the breaking apart of conferences, stretching those lines considerably. It's not so bad in some divisions. You look at it on
paper and it's like, okay, that those make sense. But there's a lot of situations when you map teams quickly by classification and geography, where you get little clusters of maybe ten teams and you can't make a ten team district. You have to make it an eight team district because that's the way that the system is written. There's no flexibility. And then you get other situations where you were talking about competitive disparity. There's no condition in this particular district
proposal for competitive balance. So while the conference system isn't perfect, it tends to start working its way towards you know, stronger teams here, weaker teams here, and kind of ferreting it out a little bit. Now there are some outliers, and there are some situations where it's not great, but here
it's just throw a dart at the board and see what happens. And there are some really, really bad examples of that, in my opinion, in three to four by Day, where you've got a coup maybe two power houses in a district and six teams that have struggled to put together almost anything. The really there is there a specific one I can throw up here, so people can go to one A one, okay, all right, and look at District one, and then over the past uh, I believe twenty years
somebody came up with us. In District one, there are twenty two state championships amongst the members of District one. The neighboring district, District two, has two teams that have been okay at the postseason level, Whope Academy and Aurora Christian and Rockford Lutheran has made a few playoff appearances as like a five and five type of team. The remaining teams in District two. The five remaining teams in District two won a combined four games last season in weak conferences.
So those are neighboring districts. So I remember they're right next to one another. You got twenty two state championships in the one side, You've got two teams that have made playoff runs, and then a lot of teams that frankly have really really struggled for quite a while now. So those are the
kinds of things that are really prevalent. There are a couple of the examples of this, I believe in four A it's actually, yeah, four A with five A with there's one district where Nazareth and Wheat and Saint Francis are in the same district. The other six teams are Chicago Public League squads. That pull let's pull that up here so people can see here. Yeah, we're looking at what which class five it's it's five A, Kyle, Yeah,
here we go. District District three. I'm sorry, there's there's three teams outside of the public League, Saint Francis, Glenbard South and Nazareth and then five public league schools there. So you know, and I don't mean to, you know, pile on the publicly in the situation, but there's been tons of data produced about how they struggle to compete with non public, non CPL schools, and you know, and then you look at District four, which is right next to it, Saint Lawrence Evergreen Park. Before we
start the season, you can chart them into the playoffs. That's every year there's that is not that is not a balanced district by any shape of the imagination. So and then yeah, look at the district. Yeah, go ahead. So I got two questions for you for two different groups here. Then given this, I have a hard time believing that the Chicago Catholic League East Suburban Catholic Conference those twenty fourteen and I don't even know how many Chicago
Public League teams we have at this point. Given what we're seeing on the screen right here, I have a hard time thinking either of those two conferences would want to vote for something like this. Now, before I get into that, I want to quickly say, well, go back to this. I want to quickly say, we didn't set this up. What we're looking at here is only a projection from sus Okay, the people that submitted the proposal, the and the Iay, neither side has put together any kind of
a proposal of what a district system could look like. So suits went ahead and did that. Caveats there. We're assuming here that the ISSA will find a way to get to five hundred and twelve teams to make a nice even playing fields where they don't have uneven districts, because that really brings a lot of different things into this, and that's really you know, we're not going to know that until probably January, February March. It's gonna take a bit
of time for the IHS to figure that out. This is probably the most likely scenario where they find a way to get this up to five hundred and twelve team. But that is something to think about here when we're discussing this in this context. Now, SEUs. With that being said, my question about the Chicago Public League in the Chicago Catholic League, is there a reason for them to be on board with us? Well, I think you know, they might come to a group conclusion. They might not if they don't.
I would think if maybe you're, for example, if you're a Chicago Catholic League team that has struggled to make the playoffs in the current conglomeration, I can see how this could be potentially appealing to you. Because I did it. I did kind of a because this is who I am. I did kind of a look at it and said, Okay, let's say the
system is in place and we're using the districts that I'm proposing. I genuinely believe that all twenty four Chicago Catholic League teams would qualify for the playoffs. I thought I was wondering about that. I was so that we look at it and look at it and just you know, throughout the records from this season, But just say, okay, we're hypothetically replaying the twenty twenty three system twenty three seasons in this based on what you know about these teams.
I believe that every single one of the Chicago Cathol League team would quit for the playoffs traditionally. Is it the Purple division that struggled the most? Uh, Purple and Red are your two typical ones that don't don't send multiple or any in some cases, So I mean, send any this year. But that's but that I could see how that scenario would be attractive to them, but some of the schedules that they would have to maneuver to get there very
unattractive. So uh, you know, almost every single one of them has a schedule where I would be like, really, I mean, do we really want to do this? So I would be surprised if could was was in support of this. Yeah, could you imagine NAZ play Noble Bulls Prep like I t W spear Like that would just be that wouldn't be fun for anyone involved. I mean we talk a lot about, you know, making it more competitive, and there are some scenarios once again that that would make
it more competitive for some of these programs. But there are also some of these that are just so, like you would have two or three competitive games in district play as far as at the top of the district all season long, like your entire season would be two games, yeah, where you were competitive and well, so you'd also have so that we're talking eight eighteen districts, so you're talking seven district games and then two games where you'd be free
to schedule them yourself. Now I have in this proposal. Is there anything that shows when those weeks would be? We would it be week one in week two? Yeah, it's week one and two, you would yeah, I mean basically what the difference One of the significant differences in my mind between the first proposal and proposal is that those weeks one in two games would be
they would count for something. Once you qualify as a top four team out of your district, you then be placed in the bracket on your overall record and playoff points. So there's an advantage to playing you know, better teams in those one or two week games, especially if you beat them, as it would help you get seated higher in the bracket. If you won both of those games and your opponents had decent playoff points. That would help you
up the bracket a little bit. And I think it would encourage teams to say, hey, even if we lose these games, where we can still get into the playoffs if we've finished in the top four in the district.
But the fun thing, I guess the argument point that has come out of all of this is it'll stop the chase for five wins, which is true, it will stop the chase for five wins, but now you're limiting your schedule, and now you're have a chase for four wins inside of your district, Like you have to figure out how to win four wins in your district, and you have no control over who that district is. So because now that's ultimately getting in the playoffs, that's all that matters. If you win
four games in your district, you're in okay all that. So now the chase becomes winning for in a schedule that you did not create. So what if you end up in a brutal district. I mean there are examples of that. I think that there's one in seven A where seven of the eight projected teams in that bracket we're playoff teams this year. Looks like we got well, let's see, District two has a bunchet in there. By the way, any any of the When you look at this here, the teams
that are bolded are playoff qualifiers from last year. So that give you a little idea here. Yeah, yeah, some stack districts in here. Yeah. So, I mean that's that's what it really comes down to, is that they're ours. I mean, and you're in there. You can't waste nothing. I can't wait to watch Mount Carmel versus Argo. You could be a you could be a fifth place team in one of these conferences or districts and be a really good football team and and you have no chance of making
the playoffs. So I mean you could be behind. You know, uh, it's the same situation. Now. I guess you could be in a really strong conference and that could hurt you. But I think there are certain situations where some of these are just really stacked. I'm sorry that I can't remember specifically which one we were talking about here. It's obviously not one of these, but there is one in this projection where there are seven of them.
There's another one where there's just one. So I mean that's kind of where we're at, so it becomes, uh, it just becomes this kind of really choppy situation. And I mean I look at District five for example, on what you have pulled up on that screen right now. Oh my gosh, I meant it. You know, three of those teams didn't make the playoffs this year, but historically they all have all eight of those all
eight of those programs. If you looked over the last five years, there's a heck of a lot of playoff bids in there and a lot of playoff wins like that. That's kind of where I'm looking at right here. And you know, and then I mean you can look over not to mention that the travel that we're talking about, but there's a lot of historic playoff teams in District eight too. So not only that, to travel all over the
place, I got to play a bunch of good football teams. So I mean, it's just like I said, there's no contention for this, Like there's no there's no system to kind of balance this. And and to be honest with you, eight day is one of the other than the really bad travel thing that is that is one that I actually think isn't that bad ye like, and guards to kind of balancing it a little bit obviously heavy in
District five, a little heavy in District eight. But yeah, so but you'll see that all through this is that you'll have some that are heavy, some that are light, and there's no consideration for how to how to try to balance that. Let's see Zachary Shimman checking in this morning, a regular on Live with Friday Night Drive. He says, do you see a situation where the IHSA could allow schools to vote on who would be in their district? Zeus, Nope, I don't see any scenario where that would be.
That would be something that they would put on out for consideration, because that would become disaster. The nicest, the nicest thing that the nicest word I could use to describe it would be a hellscape like it would be there. It would just be because one of the things that I think is interesting about the underlying situations here is that I'm not going to get into this debate right
now because we could go for another two hours. But a lot of another thing that come up heavily in this offseason and always does, is the private versus public debate. And now, if you are a school that doesn't really want to deal with playing privates bad too bad. Essentially, Yeah, not only do you have to deal with them in the playoffs, and you're gonna have to deal with in the playoffs because they're gonna be even more prevalent in
this system. Now you got to deal with them in the regular season too, and they're determining whether or not you even get into the playoffs. So like that, for me, if I'm somebody who's on you know, that is on that one side of the fence or the other, this is not going to help you in the private versus public situation. If you go to districts, it just simply isn't. You might get lucky and you might be not placed in a district with them, but you might get placed in a
district with several of them. It's just it's kind of almost kind of the luck of the draw. Do we have any idea how often the districts would be examined and re reconfigure? Well, I believe this is how I interpret it. Could not. I could be way off on this, But they
still plan to use the issa's two year enrollment periods to calculate this. So if the district proposal went into play, we would have one year before the enrollment numbers would switch because next year is the second year of the enrollment period. So after next year, you'd get new multipliers factored in, you'd get new success formulas factored in. The new enrollment numbers would come in, you know, for everybody, So schools would go up and down. Co Op
arrangements would possibly change. I've already heard about one school that's considering dropping their co op, which would change their enrollment number, and that's something that a lot of people aren't talking about. Any adjustments to enrollments for anyone can heavily
alter this. Yeah, I mean, because if you have one school that drops drops a COD and goes from being in three A to two AA, you have to find a way to ferret that team into two A and then take out a team from three A and move them or take out a team from two A to move them back up. And that may cause every single one of the drawn districts to change because you might have to move this team into District two and this team into District four to make up for it,
and everything could be changing. So that's why I think and the ISSA is taking a lot of heat for this, but that's why they're not producing a mock on this, because there are far too many variables that they just don't know right now, so that for them to put out something like similar to what I did, and I'll readily admit this may only be seventy five percent accurate in the long run, but I felt like seventy five percent accuracy was
better than blind faith. So that was kind of why I undertook this project. Was because natural curiosity was the heaviest factor in this, but I felt like we needed to have something to kind of eyeball it and say, hey, because how I got to five twelve could be completely wrong, and let's
quickly how did you get to five twelve? Well, moving into it, you have to start with the fact that, with all things considered, we have five hundred teams available to put into this that were playoff eligible last year, So you need twelve more, all right. So there are twenty four teams in the Chicago Public League that are currently not playoff eligible. So those
are in four divisions of six teams each. So basically what I did is I looked at last year's records and took the top three teams from each of those four divisions to give me twelve teams and put them into the draw. That's what I did. So I could be wrong about that, And it's very important to note the twelve teams that I put in the enrollment numbers that they currently carry, because because if there are a different twelve teams or a different I got eight of them right, four of them wrong. Well,
what enrollment numbers are those guys at? It might be two of the teams that I put in that are not in our four A teams and the two teams that are coming in instead are two A teams. So then that pushes teams up, it pushes teams down, It changes all the districts around. Literally, I talk a lot during our current playoff system how one team in one A can affect teams in eight A. Well, I mean this is a really classic scenario of that. How one team can affect just have a
cat skating effect on like fifty or sixty different things. If you just consider that fact, you have one enrollment change that switches classes all over the place. Let's see here going back to kind of the co op and eight man
talk, because this will play heavily into this as well. Adam Anderson, another regular here online with Friday Night Driving the Friday Night Drive Podcast, said, what about schools dropping co ops to have smaller enrollment ethics or exploring a man I've heard this is a bit have heard this a bit down in central southern Illinois, and what are if it's been going going around up there now?
To my understanding, while there's nothing that the ISSA can do about a team deciding to move from eleven to eight man football, so that's a variable that they cannot control. To my understanding, when you sign a co op arrangement in the current system, you're saying I'm going to do this for two years. That's what my comprehension of that rule. So I don't think teams in current coop arrangements can drop out of them this year for this system.
I could be wrong about that, but that's my interpretation of the situation. But yes, I have heard I want to say, three to five programs that are considering either altering or dropping their co op altogether in a way to you know, for whatever reason. But I think one of the factors for doing that is to try to get their enrollment number as small as possible.
What benefit is there to doing that? I mean, there are co op programs right now that I could look at the list and tell you if they drop their co op that they may or may not be getting a lot of benefit from. They would go from being a three A program to a one A or a two A program, a two A program to a one A program. Because all this system has currently drawn is who are the sixty four
smallest? That is, who goes into one A. So if you can get yourself down into one of those numbers, then you can get yourself into one A. And the other ripple to that is, and I've was talking to someone about this before, is by drawing them and clean sixty four lines. If you start before the season starts and just look at Okay, we're going to go from the small school, look at them, and then just go down the list. Usually you'll have to go about eighty deep to get
thirty two playoff teams on that list. So think about that for a minute, and that number decreases as you go down. So now the pool for a one A playoff bracket used to include eighty teams. Now it includes sixty four. So there's going to be more opportunity in the district system for a program that maybe has struggled to get one of those spots because now they're only competing against the sixty four smallest. So someone the bids have to go to
thirty two of those sixty four teams. That's the way the system works. So you know there there's going to be eight to ten teams that usually are not in this playoff discussion in one A that now are going to have a much richer opportunity to reach the playoffs just because of the way the math works. Conversely, it starts to go the other way when you get up to six and seven and even into eight, because the numbers have to come from
somewhere. If you created seven bids for teams in one A, where does seven bids go, Well, they start getting pushed out of the larger classifications. So school like you could have thirty six or thirty seven schools in five or six A that are usual playoff teams. Well, there's only thirty two spots. So the correct the course correction there has to come from somewhere, and by doing it with this math, it comes in five and six A. All right, So if we got to get out of here soon.
We've hit every question in comment in the chat that we have so far. If you guys have anything else you want us to discuss, though, go ahead and throw that in the next couple minutes. Sus, How would the multiplier and success formula play into the districts? I mean, the one thing about this that I think is attractive to the people that support it is you
go into the season and you know what classification you are. So if you are choosing to play up to six A, that's simply guaranteeing, like it is now that you're in six A, but everyone else knows that you're also going to be in six A, and you know that you're going to be in six A. So I think what it might ultimately lead to is some interesting machinations between teams that are saying, hey, I might just play up.
I mean you'll be because so you'll have to decide a lot earlier if you're going to play up though, right because like right now, like we've had teams in August be like I want to play up in like six A or seven A, right, I mean, the p it will have to be declared much earlier in the calendar because as I understand it, and at least the way that the proposal is written, and I don't know how, I don't know what this number is, that we would probably have districts if
this passes, probably in March, and then with the with all the machinations that have to go through it, teams that are playing. The reason that we would have them and they would be kind of locked in stone is we already know who's playing up next year and we can't change that because when you play up in a two year period, you are saying, hey, two
year period. So Rita at Saint Louis, whether we're in a district system or not, Saint Rita's the seven A school eas St. Louis is a six A school that's already declared Sacred Griffin is the only one facing the success formula. They're five A school. So none of that stuff changes because that's all based on the two year period, So there will be no changes with
that. The only way that that those things would change would be if we voted this in and we're still using it in the twenty twenty five season. Then you would get the new multipliers, the new applications for teams choosing to play up. The new co op arrangements, the new whatever, all those new numbers would be implemented for twenty five Nothing in the nothing in the new
enrollment sheet would change for twenty four nothing. Do you think that's a mistake not to just say, if we're going to go to a new system, let's just get everything on the same page now. Or is it better to maybe have a one year where it's like, all right, let's let's reset it when we normally would. We'll just see how this plays out this year, you know what I'm asking? Yeah, I do, And I kind of think that this actually is the right way to go with this, because
then you're not throwing it. You're not throwing open the doors and creating even more variables. Like I said, if you if you put something out and say, okay, hey, now you still have the option to make changes here, then that creates a whole another layer of problems that you have to calculate your way through. Maybe you get two more teams that say, hey, I want to play, I don't like the way this looks. I'm gonna play up and take my chances like I don't. I don't like I
don't like the feel of that because I think it might be utilized. Someone might say, Hey, I don't like this district. I'll just take sense, so only for one year. I'll just say I'll play up to six A. See what the dice roll says, like that's that. That's what I'm saying. It wouldn't be for one year. I'm just wondering if it just makes more sense to just start a new two year enrollment period now if you're going to go to a different sea, although I guess you can't cause
you have to have it. Do you have to have a match up for every sport you can't? Like, like I said, there would be there'd be no way that we could go and say, okay, refigure multipliers do all this, like the that isn't part of this proposal, right, you would have you would have to you'd have to make an amendment saying we want to get rid of two year enrollment, we want to go back to one and that and that would have to be for everybody. So I don't think
there would be any way that they could do that. I think that the interesting situation would be, like I strongly believe that if this gets past, then next year's legislative bout will have a proposal on it to go back to the current system. I believe. I believe that, I think and then that probably and if it doesn't pass, I think we'll have some sort of
modified district proposal in next year's legislative program. That's what I believe. I think this is something that we're gonna conversate on and unless unless it it just gets stomped in the vote, and then maybe it maybe it goes away. But I don't think that's gonna happen. So, I mean, but I think this is this is a conversation that isn't going away. It just is
not going away. I mean, I really think that all parties need to get into a room on this and start hashing out a more fleshed out potential solution to this. I agree, like it's I'm not I'm not against the dissert system. I just want, like, if you're gonna do it, you need to have a lot more succinct proposal like it. There's just so many variables that we don't know that you're asking schools to vote on. Because I have and I mean, this is the I have one that's been kicking
around in my head for a while. Now, I can't submit a proposal, but the one that I've been kicking around in my head I like a lot better than the one that's out there right now. Obviously I create it, so of course I do. But I've shown it to a few people
and people like it, but I can't submit it. Like, and I know I'm showing it to people that I think are probably of like mind, but but I just think there's just so many holes in this proposal, and I just I'm really really uncomfortable with putting something in there that just has so many variables out there that that is are Not that I have anything against them, but they're just leaving an awful lot to the issa's discretion here just and
and I know they're not sitting there, you know, rubbing their fingers together like villains and going, oh boy, look at what we get to do. This is largely shoved into a computer and said, spit it out for me. And that's part of my problem too, Like they're like what the computer comes out with, They're not going to argue when they're not going to analyze. They're just gonna say this is what we put the factors in the computer, This is what the map spit out. This is what we got,
which it really is. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there's another way to do it, though, because then you start bringing in like human bias, like do you want people at the IHSA to manually change what the computer spits out? Because yeah, how is that any different than a conference system if you thought, well, like, this team isn't going to be competitive in this district, or like you know, like you know, like when I entered the districts, I intentionally but the problem with
this is I know where everything is. But I intentionally took the labels off because I didn't want any sort of bias in my mind saying hey, I don't want to put those guys in that district because that'll make it too strong. But I know where everything is, so I have an unconscious bias to be like, you know, Okay, I don't want to put them there,
and I didn't try to do that. But what you would need in that situation is to bring someone who has no idea what who any of these schools are, put the sixty four dots on the map and say divide them into groups of eight, like that would be the only that would be like and I guess that's what the computer is doing because it doesn't have any biases. But I've seen some of the squirrely decisions that computer has made in the past too. You want to talk to somebody, You want to talk to
somebody about, like how basketball sectionals are put together. Sometimes talk to those people and they will, they will, they will, they will put up that it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Conspiracy theory to shame, like just pointing around and tinfoil hat and like, you know, it's idea isn't perfect either.
We launched Friday Night Drive back in twenty nineteen and won. The first story, as we posted was I had went down with the to the IHSA and done a mapping exercise with them, and they actually showed me the old way they used to do it with the rubber bands, as I have one in my hand, Like they literally put pins on the board and rubber band teams in with the sectionals where they were going and stuff. It's a wild way they used to do things before the computer system. They used to do
the football playoffs that way too. I actually went and watched it one time, really a really long time ago, and I mean it was fascinating to watch, but I was like, as I'm watching, I'm like, this makes no sense. There has to be a better way to do this. I mean, granted this was in like nineteen ninety four or something, but I'm like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. But yeah, so it's like I said, there's there's really no there's no clean way to do
it. Like I said, the computer probably is the fairest solution. I'm just saying that the computer sometimes fits out some oddities too. All Right, Sez, we gotta get out of here. I'm gonna throw it back to you one more time. Though, we got this voting process goes through the end of next week. Correct, it does go through the end of next
week, we should have. I believe the voting closes on the eighteenth, and I've been told that the results would be released on the nineteenth, So a quick condition on that though, Like I said, if this goes through, don't expect all of a sudden you're just gonna get a resolution on this.
I mean I've gotten I've talked to multiple people that have told me it's going to take a while, and it should because they're just there are a lot of variables that are written into this right now that we don't know the answers to and we're not going to get them overnight. So I honestly think the earliest that we would see the actual districts mark and see mockups of team schedules would be March if this passes. Really, that's what I really believe.
It's part of the reason right now why I haven't even started the process of trying to put together what would be a normal twenty twenty four schedule drive of file. And to be honest with you, yeah, I was going to ask you that usually you've already got schedules typed in for about a quarter of the teams. I haven't even started that yet. I would say, usually i'd be at twenty five or thirty thirty percent and annoying people to give
me more because I want answers. But I haven't even started that process. I have not even even opened up the spreadsheet file. Because while I'm I'm not I'm not an enemy of pointless work. I'm just like, well, if this passes, this is this is going to render this whole completely moot, and it does take me of a very long time to do. So I'm just like, I'm not going to I'm not going to start this until I know that it's actually for a purpose. So, you know, except
I I don't know how this is going to go. I think it's going to be a close vote. It's a it's an interesting topic. I can climb down a wormhole and talk about it for hours, but I know that we're not going to do that. So but it's it's it's layered, and I get the people that support it. I just think that there are just too many variables in this thing to a special have it go into play for
twenty twenty four. It just it just seems like we're we're really we're really pushing something really hard into a very small window that needs a lot more discussion and clarity before we should move forward with it. All right, Well, make sure you stick to Friday Night Drive dot com over the next ten days or so, we're gonna have a lot of coverage of this vote. And one more time, make sure you subscribe to shall Locals YouTube page. Do us a favor, uh subscribe to the channel. Thumbs up, leave a
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