Normalizing Religious Dissent

We analyze the "Christian nationalism" remarks made by President Trump and others at today's National Prayer Breakfast. After reporting an FFRF state/church victory in Tulsa, Oklahoma, stopping police and firefighters from raising money for the Salvation Army while in uniform, we celebrate poet Philip Appleman's 91st birthday by hearing his poem "Fleas." Then we talk with Muhammad Syed, president of Ex-Muslims of North America, a group that is helping those who have left the faith and working for secular government.