"Tim Phizackerley britains fastest hypnotist.

why can't you actually hypnotize? People live there? Because psychics do stuff and other people do stuff. And I found it interesting because it was very real, you know, and it actually worked for me, not the hypnotist, but the other stuff. I guess you've got laws.

but there's been various amendments to it since then. And so you can't do something like a hypnotic and doctrine on a on a live but well, I don't think you can include it in a broadcast. There's there's just rules about what you can and you can't do, and it's one of the things you're not allowed to do.

are you going to do so it? Yeah, I think there are some hypnotherapists who do do hypnosis online. I'm not one of them, but and that's sort of the reason why. It's because it's just not an ideal way to go about it in case you get things like a drop connection or whatever.

fixed relationship problems, and change lives. You can see reviews and video clips on his website, which again is Britain's fastest hypnosis dot com. He's been featured in The Natural Press Radio TV and it'll probably tell us that he actually was involved in Area Grande concert with the h therapy afterwards to the people of that. So yeah, I've only just sort of read a brief But tell us what is rapid then the rapid deep hypnosis. What's the difference between the different techniques?

I'm checking to make sure I've got the hypnotic statement and that that we're well placed to do things that are actually genuinely useful. So I like to stick people's hands to their head, stick them to the chair, those sorts of things which you cannot do unless you've a genuine hypnotic state. So and so, in terms of rapid what I'm talking about is maybe sixty ninety seconds to

get to that from nothing. And that's a bit different from the way most other hypnotherapists go about it, because typically they will use sort of very slow relaxational inductions for hypnosis and they can last twenty minutes, half an hour before they get anywhere. So it's you know, it's

strikingly different. And one of the things that actually I find interesting about it is clients seem to prefer it that they like to know that, oh, actually this is hypnosis, but this is not just relaxation, and it's one of the reasons that I like to do that for them.

the first place. So there's there's various different aspects to it, but there are really good reasons for doing things quickly. But like I said, what really surprised me was when I started working in that way, the clients actually sent to for bu.

lived with longer. But do they become a lot better the first session or does it take several sessions or it is a kind of no fixing them properly? But it managed you managed to live with it after coming to you.

can't do is get rid of the wrinkles. Yeah, and you wouldn't necessarily want to either, because if somebody has been through a sort of very traumatic past, what you wouldn't want to do is to erase all memory of that, because that firstly, that is their past and it belongs to them. But secondly, if you undertake to remove things like memories, then how on earth is that person going to protect themselves from the same thing happening again. If somebody has recollections of the.

not a ball. Let's suppose it's shaped like an ice cream cone, like a ninety nine or something like that, and that all you ever see is the round end. You never see the point end, because if NASA or the other space agencies showed you that instantly, all the funding is going to disappear, and people would be like, well, you know, what are those clowns that NASA playing at.

We know it's not that shape. But let's also suppose we could shoot you up into space and you could look down on the Earth and see the pointy end with your own eyes. The question is, even though you've got a lifetime of programming which has taught you one thing, how long would it take for you to change your

opinion about the shape of the Earth. And the reality is you could do that in an instant, So it doesn't really matter how long somebody's had something that the human brain is perfectly capable of unlearning things if they if they're shown to be incorrect, and it can it can unlearn anything. So if somebody's carrying around all sorts of problems, those are things that they have learned as they've gone through life, or maybe they learned it from

some traumatic experience or our sequence of traumatic experience. Those things can be unlearned in exactly the same way that you can unlearn other things. And so what we're really dealing with is what I call the model of reality, because when people interact with the world and have feelings about themselves or about other people, what they're actually reacting to is not reality. It's reality as they perceive it, as they understand it. And everybody understands reality in a

different way. That's why if you go on Twitter, you can you can get involved in any conversation and you'll find that people have very, very different opinions about it, and that's because they're all modeling reality in different ways. So in order to correct problems for people, you're not changing anything about them. All you're doing is using hypnosis and other tools in order to change the way that person models reality. And if you can do that, then

you can reshape their entire experience of life. If that's what you want to do.

they're reading the newspaper, all the rest of it. Then one day the tray there's a train accident, it comes off the tracks or collides with another train. People can become traumatized in second and the results of that would

be very very profound. So if the human brain can do something like that very very quickly in a bad way, going from feeling relaxed and happy to traumatized and everything's upsetting me, all the rest of it, then it's firstly, it's obvious that it's perfectly capable of doing it in reverse because the same amount of rewiring is required, that's all. And secondly, it's probably best to do it quickly because that seems to be the way the human mind works. Does that make sense because.

wrong way. My point I was trying to make. I think they wouldn't want to do this several times because the worst thing is keep remembering what why you're there? You know, why am we going out to the counsel of the fair hypnosis? You know? They don't want to remember that. They want to literally raise everything, and most people want to do it quickly. I mean I know I would. Yeah.

place in order to change them back. So that's basically my sort of fundamental approach is how did this in the first place? What must have happened, What sources of information, what streams of information were going into this person's mind and changed to happen to them in the first place, didn't so I end up in this date. Okay, If that's the case, then how do we do that in reverse?

And that's it's it's very, very different from the sort of traditional way of going about solving things where I mean, there was a fire in kings Tross station years ago, I think it was King's Cross and I was sat watching the television and they were talking to people who'd had like two and three years of counseling after that, and I literally could not understand it, because if somebody is taking two or three years to solve a problem like that, then clearly they're going about it the wrong way.

It just doesn't make sense because it ignores the way people's minds actually work.

it doesn't have an effect after so many weeks. I think it's six weeks. Oh and of course the funding is not always good after that. Yeah.

Most recently i've been doing lots of work on chronic alcohol conditions because of a book that a lady wrote, Who Saw Me, which is on Amazon. And again, those things are all undertaken in a single session, but there's a big difference between a single session for chronic alcoholism and a single session for a spider phobia. If it was a spiderphobia, I'd expect to have that straightened out in maybe sixty minutes, But with chronic alcohol I'm devoting

most of an entire day. So even though it's a single session, it's it's a single long, intensive session for certain things. And that's it's just because for some things there is a lot of work to do. And the example that you gave of somebody who's had, you know,

countless different traumas, all sorts of problems. Their life's been a bit of a train wreck, So there can be a lot to straighten out if you're going to help a person who's been in that kind of situation, and that's very different from somebody whose life has been fairly straightforward but who's experienced a single traumatic event, And the two things are completely different, so they require they may require different approaches, but also the amount of time that's

required could be very different. One of the reasons why I work in that way goes back to when I was working on eating disorders, which initially because years ago I was working in a way which is very similar to the way ollther hypnotherapists worked, and it was I do maybe an hour and a half one weeek and

an hour and a half the next. But when I started working on eating disorders, I began to attract people from further and further afield, and I had people lying in from Thailand and Egypt, which if you're in the northeast of England is really quite something for a hypnotherapist, and there's no way under those circumstances that you can

have them come back every week. So I started rolling everything up into one session, and what I discovered was is actually better in terms of outcomes, because if you do things and you break it into separate sessions, then you've got the sort of one step forward, two step backs types and types in O or two steps forward, one step back, hopefully where somebody will managed to undo

some of the progress that they've made between sessions. If you've got somebody, you know they're bombs on the seat in front of you, and you've got them there for the entire day. There's no opportunity for that to happen. So it's actually a much more efficient way to work. It can be exhausting, but in terms of is it best, in terms of if somebody is really in a mess, it's typically the best way to do it in my experience, which is how I ended up working in this way.

about this. So what actually happens? And how do you go on to cur them? Is it what you say? What you do? Yeah? That kind of okay?

So I'll give them an explanation of how their own mind works and what suggestions is all about, and how hypnotis changes things. And then, like I said, what I'll typically do is give them a demonstration. And the demonstration for me is a test to make sure that I've got that I can get the kind of state that I want whereby their genuinely responsive to suggestion. And like I say, so, typically for me, I like to lock people's eyes shut. I like to stick their hands to

their head. I like to glue their feet to the floor, stick them and them to the chair. Sometimes I'll offer them money to get out of the chair, so that what I'm doing there is testing for myself that yes, this is hypnosis and this person is somebody that I know I can work with using these methods, and secondly for that for that person, then they don't question whether it's hypnosis. But all I'm using is words. I am actually sort of hands on as a hypnotherapist or I like,

you know, I'm lifting people's arms and so forth. But it's with words, and words are incredibly powerful, and it's only because words are powerful that you can have things like education systems. In terms of what is hypnosis, you can think of it as a kind kind of relaxed concentration.

So what I'm talking about is describing reality to somebody not in a way that it is not rejected, and as long as it's accepted, then somebody models reality in that way and it becomes their experience of reality because they live inside the model. And that's basically what I'm talking about.

the hole. Their experience tells them that they can't have a hole inside a hole. And yet when Brian Cox comes on the television and tells people that this is true, they will absolutely believe it. Now, some people would say, ah, but it's all about this bending and warping of space time. Well, when did you or I ever experience space and time being bent or warped? That has also been suggested to them. As long as they believe it, they will believe what's

being said. This is the whole basis of education. That the only reason schools work and colleges and wedgure theaters

is because we are all suggestible. And so what hypnosis does is it's basically it's heightening that level of suggestibility that we all have in the first place, using very specific methods in order to describe reality in a different way so that somebody can view reality in a different way the world around them, whether it's scary, whether it's not scary, so that they can view themselves in a different way, usually a better way, that they might view

some kind of substance in a different way than the way they were before. But it's been suggested to them to do that, and so it's a bit like it's a bit like education, and that's that's one of the things that really people find a bit peculiar about it because they expect hypnosis to be this strange altered state where they won't remember anything and they'll be it's like they've been, you know, knocked out, fast, asleep all the

rest of it. When somebody is in deep state of hypnosis, they are one hundred percent aware of what's going on. They typically remember everything that was said, and you know, they can't be controlled. But what you did have is a doorway through which you can suggest different ways of looking at things or experiencing things in a way which their mind can incorporate into their understanding of reality itself. But it's no different really from what typically happens in

the real world. You know that somebody might explain something to you on the television, or you may bee sat watching a Ted talk on YouTube and it gets you to think about things in a different way. That's basically the same thing. It's just imagine that, but very very carefully designed to steer your mind in a particular direction, but also having taken steps to open up the your and to heighten your level of suggestibility so that practically

nothing gets rejected and it all goes in. So you could argue that children are in a state of hypnosis when they're sitting in a classroom listening to a teacher describing what anatom is and how it works and all the rest of it, and to an extent, that would be correct. Yes they are, but it's not a deep state of hypnosis. It's like a light state of hypnosis.

And so the difference really isn't about heightening somebody's suggestibility, but it's about exploiting mechanisms that are already there and putting them to genuinely useful purposes.

the best result on the test. You're going to get the best result if you stay awake and you listen and you focus and you concentrate the one the child who falls asleep is going to do very badly on the test. So there's this idea that hypnosis is like sleep, and and absolutely it's not, because if somebody just falls asleep, you're not going to get very far with them. So it's the best way to think of it is as

as a kind of relaxed concentration. And when you were talking about the lessons that you enjoyed, you would have been feeling relaxed in those lessons, but you would also have been concentrating and absorbing information. So it's a very very similar thing, and that you brought that off is actually very helpful because it's perhaps a good way for people to understand it.

talk talk to and explain this. Typically when somebody explains something to you, you'll wrap your conscious mind around it and you'll pull it apart in order to see whether it makes sense. Now, if you decide that it does make sense, then your conscious mind allows that information to pass back to your subconscious mind, so your subconscious mind can update the model of reality, because you don't know how to do that consciously. If, however, your conscious mind says, nah,

I'm not having that. I don't That just doesn't jive with me, you know, it doesn't square with my understanding of reality, then you'll reject it. But that piece of information is still passed back to your subconscious mind because that's where your long term memory is handled and so forth. But by now it's got a flag in it he says, don't do an update. So at that point nothing happens.

Your beliefs don't change. So what you really need to do is to bypass the conscious mind, because it's the conscious mind that really it acts like a guardian, basically deciding what comes in and what doesn't. And so when somebody suggests something to you, your conscious mind does this sort of filter, works, this sort of filtering magic on things.

But the only way you can filter information is based on the beliefs you've already got, so if you are if somebody gives you a suggestion and it's completely at odds with the beliefs you already have, then typically you'll reject it and nothing will change in the way you model reality. If, however, somebody gives you a suggestion and you don't reject it, then your subconscious mind will do has always done, which is to do an update to the model of reality, and then you start to see

things differently. So hypnosis is about sidestepping that filter mechanism, which is called the critical faculty of a conscious mind. And if you think about it, if you try to do self hypnosis, then typically what you're doing is suggesting new ways of looking at things or feeling about things to yourself, but you've already decided you don't agree with them when you start. So typically what will happen is people will just filter those suggestions and they don't get anywhere.

The other thing that sometimes people will do is try a sort of relaxed version of self hypnosis, where you know, they try to relax, relact, relax, relax, relax, and they don't give them self suggestions. But at that point, their conscious mind isn't really capable of delivering the suggestions that they need because it's become self relaxed. So there are finding a navigating a path through that to make self hypnosis effective. It can be done, but it's not very straightforward,

so there are ways to do it. But that's typically why self hypnosis isn't very effective when it's gone about in certain ways because either somebody's relaxed their conscious mind to the point where they're not given them self suggestions or the kinds of suggestions that would be useful. Or secondly, their conscious mind isn't relaxed, but they've given them self suggestions they disagree with, so they just filter them out. And it's avoiding that scenario that is the challenge when

it comes to self hypnosis. There's one reason why it's helpful to see somebody else because if you work with somebody else, you know, if you go and see a hypnotherapist, they can, you know, they can decide what's going to be the most effective kind of suggestion for this person

to receive. And they can also help somebody to reach a point where they are where they become highly suggestible, where things can be suggested, which are odds with the way that person currently models reality, and so that that's why a two person process is often more effective than somebody trying to hypnotize themselves. Hopefully that's makes sense.

don't understand it. But I designed a way of correcting PTSD using an audio process and some time ago it was this was picked up by well it came to the awareness of a neuroscience clinic in South America, of all places, which is a long way away from the northeast of England, but it's probably the most respected neuroscience clinic and that part of the world, and they've got

an international reputation. But it's a combination. They're staffed by neuroscientists and psychiatrists and they did a pilot study on this treatment for PTSD that I designed, and they shortly before Christmas they published the results of the pilot study, so this went into the scientific press. The results though really really surprised them because every single person on the

study improved. So everybody understudies started out with the clinical diagnosis of post traumatic stress disorder, which typically is something which is long and slow to straighten out. And in this country, the two methods for doing that that the NHS proposes and funds are counseling. There's oh, actually there's cognitive behavioral therapy, and also something called EMDR, but in

terms of sessions, it's a lot of sessions. What the clinic in Mexico were trialing was an audio way of doing this that I created, designed and they did a half hour intervention with each participant. No therapist was required, and the half our intervention worked for every single participant in terms of reducing their PTSD for most of them,

it was just very significantly reduced. For a third of the participants in the study just that half hour, the result was sufficient that they no longer qualified for a PTSD diagnosis, so that they were considered to be completely cure. So the Nearest clinic has been working on a much bigger study which is apparently also awaiting publication. But I've been told that the results are basically the same. It's just that it's it was done even more rigorously and

with much much greater number of people. But those tools are available. Am I allowed to say where those tools are available? Are not?

mind technologies, have those available. Anybody can download them. There are a couple of NHS trials already agree because of the results that have been had, and Orpheous are also collaborating with the likes of Imperial College and a couple of other universities because of the just the quality of outcome that's been had. So we you know, we're surprised that it hasn't made the press because that it is completely unheard of this but that's what the scientists have

said having tested it. And that's also my experience because you know, obviously we talked about me doing things rapidly and in my sessions. I designed these tools because there are things that are tricky to do with hypnosis and sometimes it's useful to have tools to plug those gaps. So when people see me in person, it's a combination, you know, typically in a session is a combination of hypnosis and the tools that Orpheous have made available to the public. So that's one of the reasons that I'm

able to get results quickly. So in many ways, the I am really fortunate because not only have I got access to these amazing tools, but also over the years, I've become very adept at hypnosis, and it's that's a powerful combination. But the PTSD thing is, you know, it's something I'm very, very proud of, but I would like to see it being picked up by the likes of

the military and so forth. And actually, at the end of COVID, there are going to be so many people suffering from all sorts of different kinds of post traumatic stress.

I've noticed. Though. You may be the creative of PSTC therapy, but there's ten pages of Google now people doing the same thing.

to work with them. So it is completely fully independent. So it's it's a proper genuine third party verification by scientists. So because anybody could make a claim and yeah, it may be that there are other things that work well, but that that I think is the difference. And like I said, you know, the the NHS, we have at least fortunately got some NHS trials agreed. Although COVID has

got in the way with that a bit. But like I said, these kinds of things are going to be important because so many people will have been traumatized because of COVID in all sorts of different ways. There is no way that there would be sufficient number of therapists

to deal with to deal with them all. So it's going to have whatever solution is eventually decided upon, it's going to have to be something that doesn't require a lot of therapist involvement because there just aren't that many therapists. But there are going to be huge numbers of people when we go, when we come out of the pandemic situation that qualify for these PTSD diagnoses. You know, people working in the emergency services, people working in the police,

people working you know, all over the place. People are having to deal with things that they've never had to

deal with before, and stress can be cumulative. So you know, the people are already talking about a mental health you know, mental health sort of disaster explosion because they can see it in the pipeline and there are the NHS has got places where the number of calls that they're getting is you know, it's gone up like two and three hundred percent and I'm sure that the same is true of mind and various other plates, the various other bodies

that the undertake to help people with mental health issues. Once everything's over, then it's really going to hit people. So at the moment, we're probably at the eye in the storm. You'll know sometimes if sometimes, if something's going on, you might run on adrenaline, and it's not until after things, after things have sort of calmed down, that it really

hits people what's happened. So I think it is probable that we will see this mental health crisis really explode, and whatever can be done to help people, it's going to be it's going to be important because the NHS is going to have to start looking at other things because they just aren't the number of therapists to do it otherwise.

dry on their own. And we also know that talking to survivors of this really bad problem, the cognitive behavioral FAIRP isn't really I mean I'm not an expert, but they think it's not the right thing. And even if it was the six eight months minimum, to wait probably

for years in certain areas of Scotland. I mean, we're lucky to have a good you know, mental health services up here, but you know, I think a tool like you own, from what I've read, seems so quickly, you know, you don't have to necessarily rely on the fair pest to be available all the time, where you know, your doctor could say, look, this is what you do and this is how you do it, and wouldn't that be better than waiting months and years for seeing people?

mental health issue. But cams has a long waiting list and also things do tend to take a long time when people are working with cams. But Peter has, like say he's working in a number of schools in the northwest of England. Well he's found using these tools and the schools have testified to it, so I can talk about this and if you you know, if anybody wants

the evidence, so we can provide it. But the schools have said that, you know, they're typically seeing results in maybe a couple of sessions with children that have had sometimes two or three years of CAM involvement. Cams involvement,

so it is all together different. And one of the things that I think is probable in terms of the NHS trials is that they're likely to be working with It's like this is likely to be offered to people while they are in a waiting list to see somebody in person, because if they can be straightened out without having to wait to see somebody in person. Then that's

obviously beneficial all round. It's better for the it's better for the for the patients, and it's also going to be better for the NHS because there is going to be this huge burden. Oh, I mean, it's large anyway, and even before COVID started, the mental health provision was lackluster at best. But you're absolutely right. I agree with

you about CBT. I'm no fan of CBT, as why I'm not a CBC CBT therapist, And one of the one of the reasons because sometimes people ask me, well, why don't you Why don't you rate CBT, And the primary is because I've seen so many people who've had CBT and got nowhere. But it doesn't surprise me because CBT is short for cognitive behavioral therapy, and anything that's cognitive is about what's going on in the conscious mind.

But if somebody's got bullaming a nervosa and they're binging and purging all the time, so by purging, I'm in throwing up. Usually sometimes it's taken laxatives and so forth. If somebody is doing those kinds of things, they know there's a problem, they're already cognitive of it. They just don't know how to solve it. So, and if you're going to solve something like that, you have to address

it at the level of the subconscious. You know, if it was subconscious therapy, then that would be different, but it's not. It's directed at the conscious mind. But the conscious mind already knows there is a problem, otherwise it wouldn't be seeking help. And secondly, the conscious mind doesn't know how to solve it. People consciously knew how to solve their problems, they would be doing it for themselves. So I think that the evidence base for CBT is

actually very weak as I understand it. But those are the reasons why for me, I'm not a fan, because to me, it seems obvious that it's never going to be particularly effective because it doesn't address things at the light the right level of mind.

the problem is with our society? And I can't knock help because health is brilliant when you need it badly, but when it comes to mental health in the mind, it seems to be a bit slow, you know, Tim, A lot a lot of the trouble is you've got to do it our way, otherwise you know, it don't exist.

But you know, I think we still live in that age of alternative therapy is not the right way to go, and most people know it's the right way to go because I mean, a little simple example from myself, I was told I'd pre diabetes by the blood tests from the NHS, and you know you can't treat that yourself. You've got to have these tab No I didn't. I just cut out the stuff that made it that way by googling it. I mean, it's a no brainer sometimes. But I really think the NHS needs open up a

bit more about alternative therapies. And I certainly, you know, if I could go to you once or twice, if it cost me a thousand and a million pounds, if I had the money, of course, it would be more worth it than going several times. I still say that.

been have been wonderful for the most part. But as an organization, it's it's like many big organizations. It can be slow to move and slow to adapt, I think, and so I think to an extent, there is a Yeah, there is an issue there when it comes to hypnotherapy. I think hypnotherapists themselves are partly to blame and there are definitely that there is definitely a problem in the world of hypnotherapy. If you know, if you want to

discuss that, I'd be quite happy to. But yeah, I absolutely agree with you.

a consequence. The problem was she wasn't considered fit enough to have one, and she wasn't going to be fit enough to have one because she was really struggling to eat and drink. So it was a horrific chicken and egg situation, and there was no medical treatment available to us, not without a transplant. Transplant was it was the only treatment. But unless she could get herself eating and drinking and fit enough to have one, there was no way it

was going to happen. She was born with some of the good policistic liver and kidneys, and basically what happened was that she had a very very stressful period of time at work, and for whatever reason, the cysts in the liver and kidneys started to grow at an incredible rate, and she ended up with a liver that was absolutely colossful. It's only supposed to be a few pounds, about three or four pounds. When it was eventually removed, it was it was more than three stone. So that and nearly

all cysts. So and that was why she was struggling to eat and drink because it was pressing on you know, there was just nowhere for the food to go. So that was why I got interested in hypnosis. We were completely out of options. They sent her home because there was nothing they could do, and you know, she was a relatively young woman at the time, and we just didn't want it to die. So we started thinking, well, knew,

what can we do? You know, we certainly weren't just going to accept it, and so we started looking around at possible ways to deal with it. And one of the things that we realized was that she'd been very stressed before all this really started to get bad, So we thought, you know, would would hypnosis help. I remembered reading a book as a child about hypnosis helping with certain physical conditions, and we got on the phone and

started phoning around hypnotherapists. We tried to find somebody that that firstly gave us a feeling of confidence and secondly that you know, we seemed to have some idea how to go about it, because basically what we needed was are eating and drinking enough to be able to get a bit so that she should have coort at some point. How we trans land and we spoke to two kinds of people. Some hypnotherapist when well, yeah, bring her in,

I'll quite happily have a go. But it was obvious that we wouldn't want to from the way they were talking, and others sounded as though they knew what they were, you know, they sounded skilled, but they would say, no, that's definitely not for me. So in the end, because I was working as a computer analyst and programmer at the time, I said, look, I'll make some recordings up. So it was off to the library because it was all prey and but not you know, we mostly weren't

using it, will we. So it was off to the library to get some books. I made some recordings, suggested the kinds of things that we that I thought should go into.

three transplants. But that was how that was what really got me interested in hypnosis. But she has actually been terminally ill three times and survived three times, so in that regard, she is I think, very very unusual. The closest she got was in two thousand and seven when she was given three weeks to live. But you know, it's it's been quite a ride. But that was what

really got me interested in hypnosis. So when I was I was still working as a computer analyst, but I decided I was going to do a hypnosis training course, and simply because we knew that it had been useful and actually this is this is what to do, and that's why I love teaching hypnosis, and it's one of the things I've been doing through lockdown because that's you know, that remotely and I don't have to worry about these issues as disconnections and so, but it was it was

it was that that really got me interested. And then I got I got a bit spinned up with and there was a bit of a dispute overpaid. It turned out I was right and they ended up having to compensate a lot of stuff because of it.

going to struggle to be as well. I was going to say die, you know, going to struggle not to die, But I mean, it's going to affect you a lot lot more. But if you're calmer, then you're going to be able to fight it better.

other people. He'd actually found himself in court in America charged with practicing medicine without a license because he'd worked with somebody had been diagnosed as terminally ill with cancer and they got better and they credited him as a hypnotherapist for having straightened it out. Unfortunately, it was thrown out of court and everything was okay for him. But yeah, he got cancer himself. And we had a long conversation about it because he'd said that he worked with quite

a number of people he'd had cancer. Some got better and some didn't, and you know, we were debating what the possible reasons for that might be. But we were also.

several times, you know, by different stuff. No, because you haven't known me, you know, so it's kind of shark And that's when she first started being very unwell mentally mental health. And sadly she's still on the drugs today because I haven't found a way of getting rid of the problems and until now, probably until what you've just said today. And if it wasn't sorry, I've lost and yeah,

I think I've lost it a bit. Then myself hang on, yeah, so she so she took a long time to tell me, Yeah, yeah, I've lost the trainer Fortner. Yeah.

a great it was a great secret for her. But once she told me it wasn't it was it changed her personally, her mind, and so we was prescribed comedy films, go to Amazon, go to wherever, and laugh your sucks off. It may not cure the problem, but it will certainly help me deal with it. And it did.

a lifestyle choice. But very often it's treated as though it is, as though somehow this is something that somebody has chosen and that if they and that if they are they, if they're struggling to stop drinking, that it's somehow you know, them being weak or them not bringing enough determination to it, and it is just nonsense.

So and it was just something that I thought I would really like to say if possible, because you know, if anybody is listening and there's a family member who's struggling with something like that, it's really it can be very difficult to work with and it can be difficult to understand, but it definitely isn't a choice. And if they're struggling with it, it's not because they're weak. It's because they've been unfortunate.

you ended up here? And I don't know. I mean, I just think because there's a lot of good drug addicts that have recovered and they've never done it again. But I can understand also the other way round. When you an alcoholic and you're not drunk for two years, twenty two years, you desire for it like a cream cake is still there may not be every day, but you look on tell her you go outside and you go to the pub and have a coke and everyone else is having a whisky or beer. It's yeah, it's

very hard for addiction people. But I'm just thinking what destroys our world, especially in the UK world, is drugs. It isn't the way that they can be treated so they're more normal or is it a society problem where you know, the NHS so the government. I just think that they're really bad because they shouldn't have done it, and you know, we'll bush them aside, put them in jail. I don't know.

there's a reason for it. And in my experience of working with people who who are struggling with things like that, typically what they're really trying to do is either to handle difficult feelings. They're using it as an escape. Sometimes it can be get an unwitting form of self punishment as well. And I've seen those two was over and over and over again with people addicted to all sorts

of different things. But they but like I said, you're absolutely right that the attitude, well, you know, these people are just naughty and they they've sort of brought it upon themselves. It's not helpful, it's never going to solve anything. And I think it really is a case of their book The Grace of God go by. It's very very easy from the outside to say, you know, this is something that they've brought on themselves, and to an extent, yes it is. But at the same time, there is

a reason for it. There's always a reason, and that's why.

a lot of crime involved in drugs. I guess drugs are hurting others, whereas alcoholism are a few people around you but not that many, but the drugs part of it is a lot more. That's just my point of view.

it would be treated like other things. But it's the fact that it's acceptable that one of that is one of the things that makes it so dangerous because people don't see it coming and they're addicted before they realize. And I'd, like I said, I think that's one of the real dangers with alcohol, and it's one of the things that makes it a little bit different from other things.

It's this, you know, it is socially acceptable. It's sort of expected, you know, if you if you're working in an office that if it's a work to do, you're all going to go out and have a drink. That's you know, that doesn't happen with anything else. But it creeps up on people and they it's not until they've got a problem that they that they become aware of

the dangers. Prior to that, they think it's absolutely fine and I can do else doing it not a problem, and then all of a sudden they wake up and think, ah, I can't stop doing this, and and so it's it's a sort of it sneaks up on people. It's it's very, very different from all the things.

three questions so far. Anyway, now, no way, we can do a follow up show maybe in a few weeks or something. I'm interested in this fly and Become program, you know, the nervous flying program. I'm just trying to work out we became the opposite. We we flew properly. We've been all over the world, well, Thailand, any Away and China, and we've been to Sri Lanka and been to America Cabbin, So I suppose we're technically fled all over the world, been to Europe loads of times and planes.

But we were happy flying and then we became the nervous flyer after the bad turbulence on the bad land, And you know, it's that that is so annoying. I mean, I don't know. I think that's worse than being being afraid to start with, because if you're afraid and you get your confidence up, then I guess I don't know. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm probably.

be you know, not being in control. There's all sorts of possible fears that can be attached to flying, and that's one of the reasons why it's so the fear of flying is so common. I think it affects about thirty or forty percent of the population. It's a huge number of people. And so that's that means that in terms of having an effective system, it needs to be table. HM. Basically,

you know, how do you get rid of a fear? Well, a fear is basically it's it's it's an emotion that's been attached to something, and that's typically what we do with all sorts of things. So it might be there may be somebody that you don't like. Every time you see them, you feel this like that you know, you've attached this feeling to a person. Or it might be there's a food that you really don't like and if you see it it makes you feel queasy or whatever.

So one of the things that the subconscious mind is doing in the background is attaching feelings to things. Typically it's just making fairly straightforward connects connect to another. And so when you were talking about the turbulence, initially you had lying and relaxation connected in your subconscious mind. So that's the way the moral was wired up. Hit turbulence and then all of a sudden, flying becomes connected to turbulence, and you know, this is not a nice feeling, and

that's the way. So that so now there's a new connection when you think about the plane. That's what that's what your subconsciost automatically connects to severe turbulence. So it might be a really bad landing or whatever. And years ago we came in to Gatwick and it was very, very windy, and just before we hit the tarmac there was a huge gust of wind and it was the

plane was tipped more or less on its side. I mean that the wing must have just about such a tarmac and there were people screaming on the airplane, and some of those people would have got up with a fear of flying as a consequence. And that sort of illustrates what I was talking about. You know, typical things that change the things that happened quite quickly. So essentially the way to solve something like that is to is

to basically press a rewind buton in the brain. And so the tools that I created, which Orpheus made available, are they you know, they're designed to press that rewind button. But if anybody does go anywhere, it will seem strange. You know, people sometimes listen to them and think this is really really odd, this could never work. But the reason it seems odd and the reason it seems strange these tools of anybody uses them is because it's not

designed to it's not designed for conscious communication. It's designed to communicate information to the subconscious mind. Because that's why you've modeled that. If you wanted to change your anxiety about flying consciously, you don't know how to do that, but your subconscious mind knows how to do it. That you know, it took you from feeling relaxed about it to feeling anxious about it.

the better it will be, or no chance. And also don't fly in the winter in Europe, because last November we took off from Edinburgh in twenty twenty and a bit like you're landing when it banked on its side. It banked on its side, don't take off. Its straightened off and it banked on its right hand side. Now we haven't been on a plane for takeoff since well, we're on the way back. We didn't. It was all right, but you know, psychologically we're we're still thinking is that

going to happen next time? But I doubt if it will. What you have to do, I think train your mind into the good times but other than the bad times.

So you've basically done something which is very similar. But you saved yourself the money of going to see a hypnotherapist, and well done.

website is Britain's fastest hypnotist dot com. But like I said, at the moment, I'm what I'm I'm working in different ways because realistically it's not a good idea to use hypnosis over Skype and so forth. So I am working with people in order to solve serious problems. Well I'm doing it in a slower way. As we get past COVID, things will be a bit different. Well, even if somebody doesn't want to come and see me because, as hypnotherapists go,

I am quite expensive. There might be there is something on that website that is probably worth listening to, and that's right at the top of my homepage. I've got a free recording that anybody can play you just you know, you just literally click play. It's about fifteen or twenty minutes, and it tells you how to assess a hypnotherapist in order to see whether they are likely to be worth

seeing or whether they're wants to avoid. So I've basically listed the sort of red flags, the things to watch out for because and it's worth knowing because hypnotherapy is it's a profession where there is no sort of uni uni uniform standard either in training or in qualifications. And

some people are much better at it than others. And there are some you know, there are some people involved in hypnotherapy that absolutely shouldn't be you know, it could be through lack of training or for all sorts of other things. But if somebody wants to see a local hypnotherapist, who is probably going to be the best way that free audio tells you what to watch out for. It's like you know, if they're doing this, then you might want to consider somebody else.

with people in different ways. But there are hypnotherapists who've still got offices open, who I certainly will do when all the restrictions are lifted, who are very very good, you know, I'm not the only decent hypno therapist in the UK by any means. There are some brilliant ones and if people follow that advice that they should be able to find somebody who's really good, who's you know, not far away from the doorstep.