¶ Weather, Bailiffs, and Car Repossessions
London, England. And I'm Balash Renzi coming to you. from well I'm gonna say Clots Romany because it's just easier and that's kinda my I guess catchphrase or maybe my trademark. I don't know. Reinstetten? Reinstetten, yeah. Reinstetten Mersh. It's uh it it yeah. The sounds wanna you know, sound like the sounds coming out of my mouth wanna rape my Voice, I don't know. It's awful, no? Um today I had rain here, I had sunshine, I had wind.
And even snow within four hours. You had our weather that we had yesterday because We had a lot of hail, sleet, very heavy winds or high winds, and um
¶ Florida's Deadly Brightline Train
Yeah, it wasn't nice and I I shouldn't say it's windy today, it's just cold. That obviously brought with it a cold front that I think tomorrow we get a bit warmer, but it's been sunny. It's been sunnier. Here as well, but it's kinda cold. And as I said, like like yesterday as well, I I woke up in the morning, I had to go um uh was it yesterday? I think it was yesterday, yeah. I had to go in early.
So it's like seven o'clock and I was very happy because when the you know, when the blinds went up and it's like, Whoa nice, it's sunny and it's already bright, of course it's gonna change this weekend, but It was nice and then then by the time I got to the office it was rain, like crazy rain. So um one thing is for sure my uh raincoat, which is just a layer, right? There's nothing in it, uh actually is
comes very, very handy. Was it Killhubris or Peak Performance or one of those brands? It's Artyrix, yeah. Did you use your Machant flashlight to guide you through the streets of uh Carlsra? No, not not anymore. Not anymore. Um I wanted to oh shit. What I I wanted to have a comeback but I just can't think of any um Uh anymore. I wish you know what? I wish they made uh wish they made uh you know a flash that I can put on my Leica Q three. Ah well There you go.
You know, something to watch Kickstarter for. Um Oh yeah. Or the camera camera band that's made of like uh a decommissioned seven hundred forty seven seat leather or something like that. Um remember those days when they used to have these these watch straps, like made of car seats, plane seats, like all that stuff?
That was fun. That was fun. That was fun. And I and I always thought kind of an underutilized idea, to be honest with you. Absolutely. Yeah. So um I was gonna tell you, so this is the third time this has happened to me, and it was a first time was like Trying to think. Well, we've been in this house since late twenty four, so it happened not too long after that. But so we bought our house from someone who had their business registered here at this house.
And this person was in the trades, let's say, you know, fixing things, right? And um I don't know, that type of business. Um typically you're buying supplies and then going doing jobs at people's houses, right? Fixing whatever. Roofers, scaffolding, that kind of thing. Yeah, that kind of thing. And therefore you deal with people, you deal with suppliers and things like that. And um so what What happened um was we had a bailiff come to the house.
Oh and I never I mean, maybe they do the same thing in Germany. It's uh in America, I would call this like a repo man almost. And what's fascinating, so this three different people have come and Um it went like a year without it happening again. Now it's been twice within the last I'd say few weeks. And each time it's been a different guy who's
Looks like he's like X S A S or something. My haircut. Um, but let's just say a very fit gentleman you wouldn't want to mess with and wearing a body cam. And then there's always like a comparatively scrawny young person who's just there, and my guess is that person is there just as kind of a witness or whatever. But the way it works over here is um I'm even told like if you leave a window open.
They can come in your house and basically if you owe, I don't know, let's say it's 10,000 pounds and that's what they're coming to collect. They can take property from your house. they feel adds up to that amount. Uh even if you're not at home, if the window's open. Yeah, I don't that I don't know, but like it's it's almost like a vampire. Otherwise you have to technically invite them in. But if they see an open door, they can walk into it. It's very interesting.
Yeah, but then if they come to your house, obviously they don't come to collect from you. So what if they don't know like they didn't and they walk in your house? Yeah, that's a good question. Well I don't leave my windows open, but um So what I did last time was I was like I kinda like told the guy I'm like, hey, we bought this house, you know, over a year ago.
And he goes, Oh man, he goes, I'm really sorry. He goes, if you've got your council tax bill, you know, because that proves you're the homeowner or the resident of the house. So he just took a screenshot of that and he goes, Great, he goes, This won't come to you again. But clearly there was another claim on this person and um yeah, but man, what It's dodgy, right? Very dodgy. Yeah, weird. Yeah. Um
Yeah. Today when I opened it was like I was started laughing and he's like T he's like, uh and I'm like I was like, let me guess you're here for and uh yeah. So Just take the car. Yeah, exactly. Right. Um But yeah, and and though like They'll like actually physically hold you down if they're in the house if you start you know, and the other person will just gather items. It's wild. You know, I I think that some people may say that I'm a boomer'cause I still watch stuff on YouTube.
Um,'cause apparently that's boomer stuff, right? I don't know. Um, but I do. And sometimes I find these very interesting. I mind you, I find them on like TikTok or Instagram, you know, those reels, like the short versions. I'm like, Oh, this is cool. I want to watch the whole video. And then there's this guy Who who like repos cars oh from like driveways, right? So he has this truck. Ford F two F fifty whatever, two fifty, three fifty, I don't know, w whatever, a pickup truck.
And you know, on the flatbed that he has this um kind of like a crane, right? Yeah. So so he basically um just like picks him up. Yeah, yeah. It just like backs in front of the car. So the kind of puts the two wheels on this crane or this trailer, whatever it is, goes out beam boom boom quickly, like really in two minutes, hooks the car lifts the fr the front two wheels and then like, you know, take takes the car away. Wow. And um he looks like um
Y he he looks like a policeman, he has got the you know, the Kevlar vest and the whole thing. Of course obviously he's not. But the cool thing is he has like this one of these three sixty cameras, I think, on top of his car. Which is cool'cause obviously it records front, side, back, everything and then
He edits the the video. Like so when something happens in the front, then he edits the front part in when something happens and I'm it's it's amazing when you see these people coming out of Oh yeah. Chick-fil-A and they're like, No, it's I paid for it. And it's like, I don't care if they told me to to repo it, I'm taking it. I don't care. Here's the phone is the number.
And of course he has like uh I'm not sure where he is actually, I don't know which state. In any case he has weapons on him and everything. And it's just funny'cause the guy just does it with like a poker face. He just gets to the car, sees their license plate, sees the make, you know, the the model, boom. Hooks the car up and you see people like running out in pyjamas and jumping off the toilet and you know, pushing the Walmart cart toward the guy and just like
He's not smiling, he's not angry, nothing, he just puts the car in and like here's the phone number, good fun. It's like I don't care. That's not I don't it I have nothing to do with you. I need to take the car, I'm taking it. And like a whole channel. That's like a whole weird gray area, right? Because they're not the law but they're acting on the law. And it's like um I'm sure you saw Jackie Brown, you know, with the bail bondsman. And Is that I mean, I remember once I was served a um
uh wasn't a subpoena, but it was like a thing for a deposition. And it was my ex wife's sister was visiting us and apparently while she was visiting she was you know, going through divorce or something and met up with a an old friend and Uh yeah, clearly the the husband at the time had sent somebody to go follow her and apparently'cause she was staying at our place. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they they deposed me to
And it ultimately the deposition never happened, but it was it was so wild. Like this guy looked like dog the bounty hunter, you know? Like I got a I got a call from like the lobby and I walked down, you know, they probably thought it was a supplier. I walked down and I'm like, hello, and he goes Boom, you've been served. And I'm like, what? It was like a TV show. Yeah. So anyhow, that that was But that's Florida, wasn't it?
Uh no, it's Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. Um'cause funnily enough, I I um you know, when I was in Miami a couple of weeks ago, we have um one of my colleagues, uh I gave him one of these uh case back opener knives, you know, this Victorinox stuff. And we were talking and um and um like, Yeah, w we wanted to open something. Like, where's your knife? Just give me your knife and he's like, Oh, they took it away and I'm like, What?
And he's like, um he wanted he takes the Bright Line. I think it's call Bright Line, right? That's the one that goes from downtown to up. Yeah. So he takes'cause he lives in downtown Miami and our office is like north. East Aventura. So he takes the bright line and he's like, I'm taking the bright line and somebody says, Uh, I need to check your backpack and he found this this knife
this pocket knife, Swiss Army like little, you know. And they took it away. And I'm like I'm like, you gotta love Florida, man. You can You can just get a gun and shoot somebody if they stand on your property, but you're not supposed to have a Victory Nox knife with you on a train. It's pretty wild. I mean I yeah, I mean I guess because it's public transportation or not. I guess but it was not like a machete, you know, it was like a little you know, one of those knife.
Yeah. Yeah, it's maybe like uh what like a two inch blade, two and a half inch blade. Maybe it's against the law, I don't know, right? Maybe you're not supposed to at all. But he was like, I even forgot about it, so I just kept it in my bag and then they made me open the bag and take it, and I'm like Yeah, but you know how many videos you see of these road rage and people like shooting each other in highway in Florida and I mean the way they they drive some of them.
Yeah, it's a it's another world. I mean coming from there, I've I follow a lot of Florida based Instagram accounts because the videos are amazing. Oh yeah. Um speaking of the Brightline, the Brightline crash tracker account is truly fantastic. It's run by Florida man, who's a pretty well-known guy. And Basically the theory well, first off, the Bright Line in since its inception, it's not that old, has killed two hundred and seven people, which tells you How?
Uh people in Florida, man, whether they're tweaked or whether they just you know, the it there's a suicidal or? Uh maybe a little of that, but there's a surprising number of people
who don't really realize a train is closer than it really is and they try to cross the tracks or like beat the and it doesn't work out, right? So there's this um kind of theory that like it was is headed into like the end of last year and it was below two hundred and I think it clocked two hundred by the end of the year. And it's like one of the deadliest um train routes in the world, frankly, in like in an organized country and or a developed country. And
So the theory is by Florida man and it's great. I mean he posts like the same responses to his Instagram thing. Um every time it it hits, it's like roll those shades down Deerfield Beach and uh and and um You know, the people like um oh man comment like, Oh man, b the theory is that if it keeps on hitting people, we're not gonna have a hurricane because it's been like
like a number of years now since there's been a bad hurricane in Florida. The Teftal is achieved. Yeah, it's like the the Bright Line's been fed, so we're warding away the hurricane. It you should follow it. It's it's proper gallows humor and really funny.
Well, I mean and if you if you know Miami, there is really not much public transport there, right? So the Bright Line is really um a a lifeline for a lot of people'cause you don't wanna sit on those buses and there's not much out there. And I mean Okay, gotta love America compared to the rest of the world, but because gas is up, I don't know, thirty five cents a gallon. They said Brightline is like seeing all time record numbers of riders
And yet I think it's losing money, which all trains in America can't seem to make a go of it. But yeah, it goes up to Orlando and everything. I mean, I know our buddy Eric Wend uses it like to go to Miami from Palm Beach because That drive sucks. Um yeah. Big time. So Brightline Crash Tracker. Every time it happens. The it's the same picture and the same thing. It says bright line fucking hit another person. Wow. And um it here's one.
They died. Also the two for Monday died, so that's three this week's Laugh Out Loud, so that's extra funny. I mean, the guy is he's just fantastic. Um I'll send it to you, but if for anybody out there is just looking for a bit of uh Dark tumor.
The Bright Line crash tracker on Instagram is fantastic. You know, I I mentioned speaking of Florida, I mentioned this this when when this unfolded the story with the pocket knife. It was I was in the office with dar with the colleagues, right? Some some guys were there.
And um and then I mentioned the same thing, like, you know, stand your ground law and you know, how it's it's kind of a juxtaposition in my opinion, like you know, keeping your little knife what you can shoot someone and then One of my other colleagues he said, Yeah, Florida is a weird and wonderful place, Balash.
And he's from Staten Islands. So To be fair though, that's pretty much everybody has come down to Florida from there, but anyhow. Yeah. He said and I'm not from Manhattan. So Yeah. Yeah. Staten Island is a weird and wonderful place as well on its own. Yeah. So um Yeah, it's unique. It's unique. So
¶ Latest TV Show Reviews
Yeah. So so what else you got? Um a bunch of a bunch of TV shows. Um I I since we talked um We finished Tehran season three. Uh sadly very um um on topic these days. Um for different reasons. Um a good show. Um if you want to connect it to politics, I suggest don't do it because it's just entertainment. But if you want to, you know, enjoy like a spy kind of T V show, then I think it's uh it's it's great. It's a great entertainment.
Um um and season four is being shot now, I think, so it's coming sooner than later, hopefully. Um Hi Jack, have you watched season two? No, we talked about this. I've never seen season one. Oh yeah, you never season one okay, don't do it. Season two is I don't know, like I'm sure I'm gonna get some comments.
Uh A don't talk about TV shows and B don't uh you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to hijack. Season one was absolutely brilliant, season two is awful. Wow. First of all, first of all In season two, I knew he's gonna hijack a train, but he's not hijacking a train, they're hijacking a tram in Berlin.
So and with all the bells and whistles that come with that. So it's there's a bunch of uh, you know, plot poles and the whole story and then it things just don't make sense. Like first of all, who hijacks a fucking tram in Berlin? Like it Yeah, so it's not not good. Not good at all. Um, his and hers on Netflix. Um, it's a mini series, I think six episodes. Pretty good. With a nice plot twist, so I suggest you give that a watch. Um
And yeah, and I'm on Slow Horses season five. I'm a bit I'm a bit late, I know, but um and I'm I think I watched two episodes and I I enjoy it. But there's no s uh slow horses season that I don't enjoy, so Yeah. No, it was really good. That's where I am right now. We um kinda forgot, but also hadn't subscribed a paramount till relatively recently and we um Started Tulsa Kings 2. So excuse me. We're enjoying it. I mean Stallone is
He's almost comical. I mean uh uh one sense he's really good, on the other sense he's I mean, guys had a lot of work done, you know? Yeah, of course. Uh but it's um yeah, the the show's the show's interesting. Um My wife was out the last two nights. I heard her just walk in. Um or I say she was traveling. She was in sort of your neck of the woods in Frankfurt. And um
I put on um love story, which I think is something that I think well, it's about John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bassett. So Oh they're nice. Yeah. Yeah. And Yeah, a lot of people would be like, Well, that's not like an overly masculine show or whatever, but um You know, growing up uh he was obviously a very famous figure. I remember I bought the first copy of George magazine that he created with Cindy Crawford on a cover.
So we're wearing that colonial outfit and the the wig like George Washington and I think I sold it on eBay. This is probably now twenty years ago. I bet when I sold it then, I think I sold it for like forty dollars and now they go for hundreds. I should have kept it, but anyhow, it was um Yeah, I think like a lot of Americans have always been sort of quasi fascinated by the the Kennedys and obviously the tragedies that have that have kind of fallen that around that family, but uh
Uh it's good. Um it's it's interesting. It's it's a very time and place thing'cause they're in New York. She worked for Calvin Klein, so he's in it. Um yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, I um I saw some some videos on Instagram where they were like shooting the movie. I think they they they did it this year or maybe next last year in New York because they would always you know, capture a a a scene or obviously that people could see from the street and then put the actual photo next to it.
And that's how I I realize that they're actually shooting a movie about it. Funnily enough When when which year did they die?'Cause I even I remember that, that it was big news um when the plane crashed and ninety nine. Yeah, yeah. So I was yeah, I was in high school. Um so and I I remember that. Um Yeah, it's a very uh very very tragic. And not just that, but the whole but the whole um the whole family. Not as tragic as his uncle, but that's another story. It's not for today.
Yeah. Well i it was um You know you think about like I can't remember the year that Princess Die died, but it was like a couple years before that. Yeah. So he was I mean incredibly famous, you know, and it was just uh Yeah, I think for a lot of people it's like, gosh, you know, his family just can't get a break. Yeah. Um Yeah. And I and I think the fact that his Uh was a wife was was she his wife or just fiance? Wife and her sister, right? Yeah, they also passed, yeah.
And um super sad. Yeah. I was so I was at the Kentucky Derby. This was like in Gosh now probably fifteen years ago and his sister, so Carolyn, sat at the table next to me. And I can't remember if I've told that story here, but So with family and stuff like that, we were kind of like in a private room and you would just kind of go back there for drinks or food and then you would like go back out to the balcony and watch the races and things. And
I mean, back then it was like flip bones and everything. Mm-hmm. And I felt so bad for her because, you know, these older people especially were sitting in this room and everybody's like in suit and tie and everything and Yeah, these people are doing their best, but it was obvious, you know, like kind of like trying to discreetly take a screenshot of her. I mean, really like really like royalty. Truly. Um and there were a lot of famous people around that day. And I don't think Anyone.
Um got as much attention. Yeah. Yeah. Um so anyhow it's extremely sad. Uh but um yeah, it I I'm curious about the show. I'm probably gonna Watch it. Yeah, wh watch it with your better half because it it is a show that I think is, you know, good for that. It's uh I think it's well done. Okay. Uh yeah, that's uh that's it when it comes to shows. Um I the one thing'cause I saw um was I think t today, yeah, uh Lawrence posted a picture of his
¶ Handgelenkskontrolle: Ming 56.002 Starfield
of his sneakers. And um I just reminded me that we talked last time about made in USA, made in UK, new balance Um I didn't even know, but then then I I found out a couple of days ago and I and I ordered a hoodie that Champion has a made in USA line. Do you know? Originally from the States and then Italians bought it. I'm not sure, but then now it's Chinese made, but you can buy like they have this made in USA line with like sweatpants and hoodies and stuff like that.
It's interesting because growing up Champion was really the um Walmart brand. Yeah, I mean that was where you bought like mesh shorts to go to P and, you know? Yeah. It's funny. I mean, I guess it still is to a certain degree, right? Like you have the t shirts, cheap seats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was like them and Russell Athletic were the two and I think they're from Alabama, if I'm not mistaken. So Champion I just googled it, uh established in nineteen nineteen by the Feinblum brothers.
as Knickerbucker Knitting Company. New York. And uh in um the company soon signed an agreement with the Michigan Wolverines to produce uniforms for their teams. In nineteen thirties the company was renamed Champion Knitting Mills Incorporate. producing sweatshirts and hoodies soon after champion products were adopted by the US military academy to be used during training exercises and blah blah blah blah blah.
But then I think at one point they m they maybe sold their franchise rights like European to an like an Italian company. Cause then I know that in Italy a lot of the stuff came from I I'm I'm not sure. But I remember being in Venice in the late nineties, early two thousands and they had this huge champion store. And even the jerseys, you know, the NBA jerseys are obviously pretty famous. They had the US champion and they had the the EU champions that were made in the EU versus
The ones that made the size. The US ones have numbered sizes and the European ones have letters, like large, extra large, et cetera. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so Regarding the risk game, what's going on with the Hunger Lynx? Well I know what's going on with you and I'm pretty sure I'm wearing this I by accident, as you saw on Instagram, I was wearing the same brand.
So uh I'll let you go first. Or actually why I can tell you I I was running the Ming G M T, that was easy. Nothing fancy, you can see it on my Instagram. So now you can go. Yeah, so I um it was interesting. Pernith had reached out because this watch was already in the UK. And I He he's like, Hey, you wanna spend a little time with it? And I said, Yeah, absolutely. Um and it just sort of showed up and I had forgotten that
He said it was coming. So it is the new uh Ming fifty six.oo Starfield. And this is their First, if I'm not mistaken, take on an integrated bracelet watch. And it is part of their special caves project, which means unfortunately it is not a an affordable piece. It is a nineteen thousand five hundred chufs or Swiss francs watch.
Now With that in mind and at that price, um This watch sort of fits squarely in that whole Moser Streamliner, Parmigiani, Tonda, you know, type uh area or polo or whatever else you wanna. And I gotta say, it's pretty damn cool. Um The way they've translated their design into this watch, I think, is really great.
Um it is different than like a Nautilus or something like that in the sense that there are still lugs and shoulders on those lugs before it meets the bracelet. So it's not like going case. um side directly to bracelet. So there's that that sort of um transition there. But the bracelet, um, while it's completely polished, and I think that's probably my only real quibble with it is is badass. So the backside of the links, the removable links,
have a little sliding uh thing that you just use your fingernail to slide down and then the link just separates. And then to put them back in you don't have to use that lever. There's like these two little um kind of ground out areas that you push the spring bars kind of into and they just slot it just like clicks in almost like a seatbelt. It's it's super cool.
Um so it's like super easy to like size it down to the exact number of links is what you're saying. Yeah, super easy. Um the other thing is that the links attached to the on either side of the butterfly class. Um each one I guess that that link and attach to the next one, it slides out by two notches, each one being one and a quarter mil. So effectively you've got five total millimeters of
Spah yeah, I see. Adjustability and you can do it with the watch on your wrist. So and and it's not doesn't make the clasp thicker at all, which is pretty impressive. So Yeah, the the total watch, so it's like forty mil. Obviously the lug to lug is is lengthy because of it being integrated, but it's less than ten mil thick. Crystal is badass. It's like almost vertical.
It's got like that mosaic design. Um, they used like luminous material on the case itself, on the the top and the bottom. Mm-hmm. uh or or on each lug, let's say. And what that does is kind of gives you the impression that the case stops there. So it actually makes the watch look smaller than it is. Um I really dig it. I think, you know, the only thing that I would say, and I don't know how they would do this, because I think you would just run into issues with Um fit, but I'd probably like a
Maybe a slightly greater taper to the bracelet. Um, but again, I I don't think that would necessarily be that doable and it might look a little ridiculous if it were too sharp, but I really dig the watch and it oh and it's it's using a Vauxhall um Fourier
uh three thousand series movement. So I think it's the same movement that's in some Royal Oaks and things like that in I guess the party trick is that the case back has sort of got these little windows in it and the the rotor is fully luminous so as you either twist the crown or swing the rotor around, it almost looks like, you know, the Star Wars thing where they go into warp speed. So
It's cool, man. I dig it. I I wasn't sure when I first opened it up, but I've been wearing it now pretty solid for two days, and I like it. I wish it were not. Twenty grand. That that's my only Beef. Yeah, I saw it on your wrist. Uh when you saw I mean saw when you posted it uh today. Um and that's the only thing as I as I said, like I I think it's really cool. I just the the the bracelet to me
I don't know. The pictures maybe they don't do the watch justice, but they they kinda look like yeah, it's a bit odd for me how the the the bracelet looks. on the on the watch because it kinda looks like an integrated but kinda not so I I don't know. Like I'm not gonna say it looks bad because I as I said I haven't seen it and I need to I need to check it out. But um it's it's definitely interesting. And I think the cool thing is that um
Um about Ming in general, right? When we talked about the the the titanium bracelet um at length when when that came out and you and I both have it, so um uh I'm I'm sure you can you can vouch for that that It's a it's an extremely comfortable bracelet. I put it on my Speedy Tuesday one because it's also brushed and looks even great on that. Um is that that the the brand puts focus on these kind of things, right?
For the most part, what's the um the biggest news you've you've seen recently is that oh there's a a quick a quick release on uh on a bracelet, so you can swap it and put it on a letter strap for most brands. I'm like, that's great. But then you can only put your own strap there, right?'Cause you know.
And I think when it comes to bra bracelets are super important. I think we don't really put a lot of focus on that. Like, yeah, the watch head and this and that, but it can it can absolutely change the way a watch looks. And it's super interesting and important how the watch feels and if it comes on a bracelet, uh it's ninety percent the bracelet that gives you that feeling.
Yeah. So you have to have a bracelet that doesn't only look good on its own, looks good on the watch, but also feels good. And then we talk about um microadjust. We talk about um links, how how difficult it is to change links. So Uh I'm sure N Ming is not the only one, right? But I just like the fact that that they're they're they're uh putting um
focus on on these things that I think a lot of brands just just simply don't to be fair. Yeah, no you're absolutely right. And I also think that it's pretty impressive that a brand this size can still create these innovations when much larger, much you know, brands with I don't want to say limitless, but massive funding don't either They don't care, you know, or or they just don't. But you know, if I look at the way these links remove.
That would have been impressive enough, but you know, the big thing here on these um sort of expanding links or these links that allow for adjustability was that they said that most sort of tries at this add thickness down towards the clasp area. And what I can say is that when I'm looking at this watch from the side
You know, that link that has the sliding piece within is the same exact thickness as the normal link. So it's it it absolutely didn't do that. I mean, it it's it's pretty impressive. Um and You know, the question I was thinking about was would I put this watch up against something like a Moser Streamliner, which is a is a watch that you can buy at Herods, you know, they've got like an A D there and they've got A Ds various places, or like I said earlier, the Parmigiani and
I think I still like the Parmigiani more from uh like the bracelet for me, the just the feel of it. Um but from a quality perspective and everything here, I'm not I I don't feel like this is um Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's a a downgrade compared to those watches. It it it Feels like it deserves to be in that category. So y yeah, I think it's uh you know, I think with with indie brands and autologi brands, it's apples and oranges, right? You really cannot compare them.
Are people compared I don't know the the Submariner to I don't know the Planet Ocean or whatever or the the El Primero to the Speedmaster and okay those are big brands from big groups. You cannot compare these. um because the the politics is different, the brand comes from a different um background, design, language, whatever. But I I I hear you and I think it's It's right up there. Um what the what the bracelet uh the system, this link changing system reminds me a little bit.
Are those psycho five uh bracelet links, remember where you had to like but there you had to push down Yeah, you had to push and slide, exactly. And I think that's where the idea must have come from. But man, this is so elegant. And Boy, I'll tell you, if this had been priced, you know in the in the ballpark of the watches that that we own, I I think I definitely would have had to to get it. I I I hope that they'll You know, do a a lower cost.
version of some sort of of integrated thing that I can at least consider. Um and I hope they'll do something with like more of a matte uh finish as well. So but it's cool. It it it This to me is, I mean, it's like a diver um in the sense that it it's you know, a very different type of watch that they've managed to take their design and and expand to. Yeah. Yeah. So
And I don't know how many pieces they initially released on this, but yeah, it's sold out. So Yeah, it's waitlist on uh it says on the website. Um I don't see, let me see if there's anything on that. Um Uh I I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it it's it was a nice nice surprise, man. So Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. So um Well we wanted to talk today about um Well, we we had a suggestion in a Discord around vintage brands that maybe people don't know so well or are worth taking a look at and
¶ Introduction to Underrated Vintage Brands
You know, that we we've had a number of topics lately, such as, you know, the one around Movado or or Angulus where it's, you know, a brand that you like getting popular so I guess by talking about some of these maybe we're we're feeding the fire a little bit, but I'm as we've always said, I don't think you and I are uh responsible for changing tastes in the world. Uh oh I wish. I mean maybe if I uh went to Pity Womo and um you know
danced around then then maybe I would I think the only the only taste we change is um Matt buys more Yeti and uh he feels good about it. There you go. And I did as well, mind you. Um I had to do some some shopping in Miami, not for me, um, you can guess. And um I I found some uh I went to Marshalls of all places because I was the closest and I found some Yeti on sale, so I had to come home with some Yeti. So yeah. Not bad. Not bad. Um
It's interesting. But I'm I'm I'm looking at the original Ming thing here and I'm sorry, I I'm just Ah, twenty watches only. Well Okay. Yeah. Um Yeah. So I'm gonna bring up my first one. And um this is gonna be a bit of a maybe a surprise, but
¶ Wittnauer: Longines Connection and Chronographs
Maybe not. Um I think a brand that gets overlooked a lot and they are an example of one that made a lot of watches and it it it's a case where a percentage of those watches I would say fall into the types of things that collectors generally enjoy, meaning some sports watches and then some other unique things. So Um the brand that that I would mention is Wittenauer. And You know, they're often badged with um longing because there was a sort of a shared ownership there at one point.
Um, I believe when everything started to fall apart, uh the Swatch Group or what it was called before sort of let them go to the wayside and they're now I don't know who they're owned by now, but they are a um You'll be surprised. I'll tell you. Uh okay. Citizen. Mm. No. Yeah, technically, bulva. Yeah. Yeah. So it's bullova, yeah. So it's under interesting. So yeah. And um
The company did make its its own movements at one point, not for everything that they they issued, but you know, they were making movements. They weren't just like a a rebadged company. Um very present in military watches during World War Two. Um it's interesting here that they were um and and by the way, um even before Longin bought them in nineteen fifty, I think that they were Um also doing a lot of the um
importing and sort of the local arm for a long gene, right? Yeah, because it says in nineteen ninety five, Swatch Group broke the hundred and twenty five year collaboration between Longin and Whitnauer and took over the Longin distribution. So as you said, probably from the very beginning they were have they had some kind of a business relationship in the US because it was a US brand by uh a Swiss immigrant, Albert Witnauer, set it up in Neuroshell, New York in eighteen eighty five.
You know, as far as some of the watches that I think are are pretty cool, um you know, the from a chronograph perspective, they made a number of Valji seventy two powered pieces, you know, notably like the two thirty five T which Um is a white dialed watch that was the the watch that was tested next to the Speedmaster that failed. Most people thought it was the black dialed two forty two T, which is a very spacey looking watch, um, but that wasn't actually the tested one.
But they're both fabulous with the the two forty two T, the black one being a a pretty expensive piece. The other um two thirty five T is still pretty findable at reasonable prices. Um And then, you know, they were also pr pretty early on with electronic watches. So there's that famous watch with the um kind of lightning bolt and the big circular hour hand that I always thought was super attractive, but
You know, unfortunately these early electric watches are are not overly reliable. Um that's very mildly put. Yeah. Um You know, one one of the favorites that I wrote about on Fertello ages ago was the uh the eighty twenty five automatic, which is a watch with um a normal dial, but on the outer track a twenty four hour dial. And I always thought that this was just a super cool stealthy watch, kind of a
uh an explorer like piece a little bit. Um tough to find, very tough to find, but I always think on eBay, you know, it's a it's a brand that I forget to go look up sometimes and You know, you never know what you're gonna find with them. They made, like I said, a lot of World War Two stuff and also a lot of other twenty four hour type dial watches um in the forties. And yeah, they're smaller, but that's very popular right now. So there's si there's kind of some cool stuff out there.
Yeah, they also have some some compressor divers, some some uh other divers as well. Chronographs are obviously uh pretty iconic. I think uh everybody uh probably have seen the um the red the one with the red bezel, I think seven zero z seven zero zero seven, seven zero zero four. Nice. Yeah, yeah. So um there's there's quite a lot of cool stuff there.
And um yeah, I mean bec and because of the collec uh the connection between uh yeah, seven zero zero four I think. Because of the connection with with long gene, a lot of the long gene Models that were um marketed under Whitna in the US are obviously um very similar design, maybe more affordable, especially nowadays, because I think we've said this. before that uh now it's uh it's a vintage vintage market, um buyer's market'cause prices have gone down quite a bit.
on these pieces as well. So it's uh yeah, it's uh I I enjoy the the the chronographs, especially the yeah the the the red one, the seven zero zero four or the two four two. um which I think is another iconic design with the kind of half uh cut minute scale on the subdial at six. Um um and also at uh Um like where they like this, you know, the dots that kind of cut into the the the sub tiles, just kind of a cool design. So yeah, it's definitely a brand that that um
That needs attention and probably um you can still find like super nice deals on uh on uh ebay and other places. Yeah. Absolutely. And I would think it's one of those things, especially if you're American. Hmm. you know, garage sales and things like that, you would you'd probably be able to find some pieces. Um Yeah.
You know, I I because we talked about this topic just before we started recording, so I didn't really put a lot of notes down. But the one uh funnily enough, mentioning Whitnaur and its history, now the one brand that I put down is Vintage Bullova, which or Bullova or Bullova.
¶ Bulova: Swiss-American History and Divers
Or age old debate. Which I think is is um top of mind to a lot of vintage people, but probably not so much for people who are just trying to dip their beaks in the vintage sea, so to speak. Um And um I was um I thought about it the other day'cause I was I was um I was talking to to Lawrence a few days ago about some some of his pickups. AKA train racks, uh no pun intended.
Um and uh and I said you need a vintage tropic strap on it. And I s and then I realized like there's a bunch of these brands that you can obviously find, still find Tropic Strap. that originally came with the watch and one of those brands was was Boulevard as well. And uh and I think now that obviously they they redid a lot of their um like iconic
design, especially the the six six six diver and all that stuff. But I think just like with Whitnawe, right, you can go back all the way to the nineteen thirties and have those very small Little tank watches or even the ladies' watches and then go on to the fifties, sixties. Maybe not so much. chronographs, but m but divers definitely a a bunch of divers and and bigger pieces. And of course you have a few cool chronographs as well, but chances are they're gonna be expensive, but still.
Yeah, I I I agree. They and they did make some cool chronos like the Stars and Stripes or the Surfboard. So they've got some stuff out there. Um I think they have a six six six, no? Six six six chronograph as well. What was the one with the sea case? Yeah, that's the snorkel. That's what I meant, yeah. So yeah, you wrote about that in twenty twenty when it was brought back, unfortunately, and uh Pretty big diameter, but um
But the originals are not that expensive to be honest. And they're really cool. They've got some amazing indices, some of the best or coolest that I've ever seen, like very unique. Um And yeah, I I own a I guess it's like a nineteen forties gold plated tank that's new gold stock and They made, you know, like a lot of the brands during that time, they made tens or twenties of different styles every single year. You know, they would just keep changing the catalog, so
There's tons of stuff out there in that regard. Um, not expensive, but can give a lot of lot of pleasure to to wearing. Totally. Yeah. No, it's a good call. Um
¶ Roamer: Unique Designs and Quality
A brand that I that that gets really no love whatsoever that was gonna bring up. Um You know, Enakar has had its day in the sun and I think most people are very familiar with it, and What I noticed when I was looking at Enakar, um, was that, you know, they were using excuse me, like gay fur bracelets. Um
You know, EPSA is a case maker. They were adjusting movements. Um, you know, really high quality. And a brand that I think made more, especially as it got into the sixties and seventies, that made more sort of off the beaten track style wise watches that reminds me of Enikar from a quality perspective, meaning like
Bracets, case makers, even sign crystals and things is Romer. Um I own one and it is by far one of the cooler watches that vintage chronographs that I own and it's the the Stingray Chrono Diver. Um, but they made a lot of other neat watches like the Mustang and some other pieces that Telling you, y you can find these things pretty reasonably. Mm-hmm. And they've got a very different design than a lot of what was out there at the time. Yeah. The the the Stingray, for example, is is uh
is a cool design because it's like it has this like this seventies C shape, right? The C case. But then the it's an there's an off center logo and name and then it comes in an NSA bracelet usually or sometimes. Um I think inside seven uh seven two uh well she seven two six, seven two eight. So um yeah, that's some that's some really cool, really cool stuff. And sadly, if you look at Roman these days
It's uh and I think that's a lot of yeah, and I think that's a that's a problem, you know, a lot of the times, right? Like you you think of you th like Boulevard as well or or even Romer, you look at the brands, you look at the vintage catalogue or or Just just a just a a few models that you can find, just put in like Romer vintage c watches or vintage chronographs. It's um so nicely done, so well designed, so well made, and then the
The the modern counterparts are just um yeah, they're just they're just forgettable. Yeah, absolutely. And um um but yeah, that like the stingrays are probably my my my favorites of those, but um Yeah, and I'm just gonna look up the Mustang from from that period. Um You know, a little bit like another brand I'll bring up here in a second, but they've got some lugless designs. Um, but but yeah, rest assured if you pick one of these up.
They're just they're super cool. Um yeah, like I'm looking at a Mustang and here it is on an NSA bracelet, UFO case for three hundred and forty pounds, you know? Yeah. Um You know, they go up to six hundred something pounds, but I'm sure there's some negotiability there and Yeah, they're there's uh even like the basic sort of sea case quasi dress watches, which would be like a Seamaster or a or a Sertina or something from the time.
These are pretty inexpensive and they're pretty nice quality watches, honestly. So Yeah. Uh no and and and that's that's the point, right now the bracelets, like NSA bracelets, tropic straps, like all that stuff. It's m I'm not saying you should buy a watch for the bracelet or the the strap, but it's a it's a great little bonus if you find a watch that you like and it comes in an NSA bracelet. Um it makes a difference. But um
¶ Rodania and Rodana: Obscure Military Watches
And then um, you know, we I think the last time I mentioned uh Rodania, which is also one of those brands, I think. And and I I think there's a modern uh Rhodania brand as well and um and that's uh that's also something that I don't want anybody to visit their website. Um I really don't but then I think a lot of the times people and including me uh um mix up Rodania and Rodana. Yeah, yeah.
Um very close, aren't they? Yeah. And and even in style and uh And I I remember when I was doing my research for uh for the um the Angalus Hungarian Air Force watch that there were Rodana watches used by the Yugoslavian army, not the Air Force, the army. So um and they also have these triple calendars
uh with the with the pointer date and the moon face. I think that's Rodana wasn't the brand that had Pontiac, was the American version, like Whitnaur and Long Jean? Yes, yes. Or something like that. Um, but they also had um um just just very simple three handers with um with like um a thicker case, almost like a
Um I'm not gonna say a Calatrava case, but like a thicker case design with like beautiful um minute uh minute scales, printed minute scales on the dial and and uh numerals and dots and indexes. So There's it it's not on the level of a of a Bulabar or or um or a Roamer. But there's a bunch of cool Rodanas out there as well. Not Rodani Rodania as well, but also Rodana that um I don't I don't think Rodana exists anymore. I don't know.
Well, you know, don't uh these days give'em ideas. Yeah, you never know, right? Maybe Brightling will buy them. Um Yeah. So another one I was gonna mention, um and and I t talked about it a little bit with um uh well, Boulevard and um
¶ Gruen: American-Swiss Hybrid Watches
like a little bit with Wittenauer, but uh Gruin. And you know, I've been on here before with the Curvex that I bought a year or two ago, which is really a favorite watch of mine. I I love it. Um I love the fact that it's really a mix of American and Swiss. Um and there are movements, by the way, from both places that the brand used. So it's it's just kind of a neat um hybrid brand. And You know, the the Curvex was really a landmark watch.
Um, it's something to to do some reading on. There's some really cool sites out there that will talk to you about it. They've always been kind of a darling of of collectors and you do have to be careful of a lot of plated cases that, you know, certainly show that they're getting on near a hundred years old now and dials that have been redone. But, you know, you can still find good ones that come up that are solid gold that are are reasonable. But if you move to the later period,
You know, once again, I mean they were making some pretty neat dive watches and even some chronographs into the fifties and sixties that are pretty nice watches. So, you know, there there's some cool options there for sure. Yeah, I've I've always wondered if if Gruin is uh the the uh the the anglicized version of a German name and I looked it up and it is.
Yeah.'Cause it w it was established by a German born watchmaker Dietrich Grün, who like Grün meaning green, uh Grun is the word for green. So and then U U E is obviously the way you You ride the Umlaut, um in Cincinnati, Ohio of all places, which is uh beautiful building, by the way, that's still there. Um they said f at one point the largest watch manufacturer in the United States.
They imported w movements from a glassute and then eventually it became um Swiss made when they imported movements from um from Switzerland. Um and it says that uh Gruen was one of the first US watch companies to offer basic movement produced in Switzerland in a wide variety of cases and prices, but adjusted dialed and case in the United States. Some of their finest movements were made by Jean Aggler, who later became business partner of Hans Wilstorf of Rolek.
Fascinating history. Great. And then we're talking we're still in like the nineteen twenties, right? So fascinating history. I think one of the Rolex Factories today is an old groon factory. Could be. Yeah, I do believe so. Could be. Um, which is interesting, right? So um What was another brand I had down here? Um
¶ Department Store Brands: Baylor and Le Gant
So, uh this is um referring to a friend of mine who just picked up a watch that looks like a um an a car but was made by Baylor. And you've seen Baylor before. They did a lot of like Poor man's hoyers and things like that. So stuff made by Hoyer. And I thought I would mention them and alongside them mention Legant, which I think in one of the groups we belong, we've seen some uh there's a couple
sort of amazing chronographs that they did that are not easy to find. But what what's interesting about both of these companies is that Baylor was the house brand Um for Zales jewelers, which still exists in America, it's sort of like a mall jeweler. Um nothing wrong with it, but it's not like a fancy place. Um and then Legant was the in-house brand name for Montgomery Ward, which was a
Gosh, what would you call this? It was almost like before Walmart or Kmart or something like that. So it was like a big Department store, but not a fancy place. Yeah. Like a Sears almost. Yeah. And that's kind of fascinating stuff. I mean, th these are things probably in twenty or thirty years, aside from being a watch nerd, you know, these names like um Montgomery Ward will just be completely out out of
the understanding of of anyone, you know, they'll they'll just be totally forgotten. So Yeah. Um but you know, some pretty cool pieces out there. Sometimes you're finding, you know, cases and dials and things that were used by other brands. And sometimes you can get a nice deal on these because the the brand name is not, you know, one of the big Swiss names are still around today.
Yeah, and and both in case of Legant and Baylor you can find some really, really nice chronographs. I mean the time only pieces are you know, they're they're cool. They also have like uh compressor uh divers similar to what uh what the vintage nevadas used to be. Again, not the C case, but kind of this round case. But but yeah, a lot of lot of Hoyer stuff. There's even co-branded Baylor and Hoyer uh chronograph vintage stuff.
uh skin divers and and other things like that. And for Legant, I mean, aside from the fact that uh one of the coolest logos, the the later logo I think, not the early one. But the one from the seventies when they were like doing something like you know, like again like Nevada's or even uh or even Yema a little bit, those Legant logo was uh was something else. They also had some
some very cool um I think Zenit powered chronographs and and things like that. So Those things will not be cheap, but it's also not something that you see even at a vintage uh fair or get together or whatever too often I have to say. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be a unique pickup that I think is quite a Yeah, again, should give a lot of satisfaction if um if you find a nice one. Mm.
So was it Legend connected to LeJour? Because LeJoure was the LeJour, but the design wise it's very similar, right? But LeJour was the US version of Yema. Yeah, so huh they were, although LeJoure also did um some of its own designs, meaning things that I I've never found a Yama equivalent. Yeah. So they were using cases from, you know, your sort of usual suspects from that period, Jigunde.
Um, you know, the these companies that had their own name on dials, but also did a lot of work for other brands. um, you know, the whackmans of the world and things like that. So yeah, there there was a lot of this kind of stuff. But as far as I know, Legant was really tied to Montgomery Ward. Um
¶ Mido: Automatic Pioneers with Borgel Cases
So another brand that I'll bring up here and the the Movado collectors of the world will be cranky about this because there's sort of a similar vibe in some ways and I'll get to why, but um Me now. So Mito is pretty fascinating because uh and and I don't know if you can do some research in the background, but to me, they feel like the brand that sort of uh what's the word I'm looking for? Democratized or made common, the automatic movement. So the power wind movement was really something that
I I feel was m you know Meato had far earlier than a lot of other brands were were pushing automatic watches. So but the other cool thing about them is that they used a lot of Borgel cases. So you've got really, really high quality uh watch cases from Mito, and that started like in the thirties or forties.
Going up into the 60s. Um and then when you get to the sixties, you start to see some pretty neat, you know, you've got some very rare divers, you've got like the commander, I guess like the sea commander, which is kind of a UFO-styled watch. that um that uh is it the commander or the ocean star? Sorry, I just want to make the no, it's the um it's the commander. So uh some pretty unique designs. I think that they were
A little bit like Roamer in the sense that a lot of their watches, especially as you start to get into the sixties, were quite a bit different than other other brands. They're not like your typical Certina or Omega. And You know, they they've they've got their fans out there, but I've never felt that they were super popular and therefore the prices of their watches have always remained pretty reasonable.
Yeah, Mido was founded in nineteen eighteen in Biel, Bien, where Omega's headquarters is, and the name comes from the Spanish Yomido, meaning I measure. And it says Meadow found a market in the flourishing automotive market by producing watches in the shape of radiator grills of a wide range of brands, such as Buick,
Bugatti, Fiat, Ford, Excelsior, and Hispano Suiza, just to name a few. In nineteen thirty four, Mido launched the multiford design, the first Mido to use a self winding automatic movement. I'm not sure if they were the first one ever to use one, but they were the first Meadow to use an automatic in nineteen thirty four. It's pretty early, I have to say. Yeah, I don't think they were the first, but they certainly made that a Kind of a foundation of a lot of the watches they offered, right?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, yeah, and it's it's the it's the story of a lot of swatch group brands, right? Like if you think of Mido, if you think of Rado, if you think of Sartina, Tissok, obviously, um, Longjin, how these brands used to be Yeah. Like at one point Tisot and and Omega were kind of
I wanna say almost on the same level, right? So if you look at the forties, you find the same chronographs, uh just rebranded for Tisso Omega or Lem or Lemania or even double branded Tisso Omega. So um just because they are what they are today and they are repositioned by the by the swatch group below or above certain brands, um, it doesn't mean that that's how they started. And in this case, I mean
Meter is a fair fairly young brand. It was established in nineteen eighteen, funded in nineteen eighteen. So it's you know, it's a hundred plus years old, but still, um cool history and some some very, very nice vintage models. Um Yeah, I've I've got a handful of these things and you know what you have to watch out for on Meeto is that um
You know, you find one that is a size that you're comfortable with. So they made a lot of smaller watches and A lot of stuff in the low thirties, but there are some pieces out there at thirty-four, thirty-five, thirty-six that uh fit really nicely and wear pretty well because the the lugs are decent. Um and the prices are all over the shop. So, you know, you can find stuff for 100 odd Euros to five, 600, which still isn't bad. And then if you get into the
chronographs from that period that use Borchell cases. I mean you're effectively talking about um one of my favorite two words, Balash, something like the Tustitundi. And um so yeah, there's sort of like with the the um Movado M nineties and M95s using Borgel cases and then these Mitos, they're sort of the less expensive counterparts to those Pateks, but they're not cheap. I mean yeah, the Mitos can easily go for, you know, three, five, seven thousand. Yeah. Um, and they're more like uh
a single handed chronostop type movement, but they're they're really, really nice. And beautiful sword hands, pump pushers. Yeah. So yeah, I mean I'm I'm just looking on, you know, eBay right now. I just typed in Me Do Vintage just for the heck of it. And What's pretty cool here is you see the signature Borgel crown, that sort of mushroom crown, and you know, that's the same
crown again that Patek Philippe used in their watches. Um which always cracks me up because I'll see people selling these crowns or trying to sell them for hundreds or you know, five hundred Euros or pounds and then you can go get a watch with the same crown on there for a hundred dollars, you know. So but y yeah, they're they're Like I said, if you find a nice one, um my experience with vintage meetos is that the automatic movements are damn robust, which is pretty well, kind of surprising. So
Um and that the Borgel steel is really good. Um Weirdly a lot of nice unpolished um cases out there. So Well we should we should buy them up and then open a dealer account and start pimping them. Yeah, I mean I think people have have tried, right? Um it it's sort of Been fortunate for them that smaller case sizes have come into vogue. Um But I think that'll always keep them a little depressed. But uh yeah, if you're looking for a really good quality piece.
It's hard hard to beat one of these if if you're comfortable with the size. Yeah. Yeah, it's uh it's um It's a as again, as I said, it's it's not the brand that you see nowadays. And I think when you when you see what where Mido is positioned within the within the Swatch group, um Could give you a false idea about the brand'cause I'm not sure if you're Um you think about the the Mido Multicenter Chrono, for example. Mm they also had the the um
the uh the uh the doctor's version, you know, with the with the pulsation dial. Yeah. These are super nice, super nice pieces. Yeah. Beautiful. Small Beautiful. I think that's also Borja case, no? I think so. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it has to be. And then... Look, I'm wearing the the Chronodato looks on a bracelet thanks to you guys. Um and that's like thirty three point something, and I absolutely don't care. And I'm I don't have a small wrist, so Um I think it's um it just shows taste.
Above all, having a piece like that. Yeah, and I have an open mind, right? Um Yeah. I'm just looking at some of the things here. They did a lot of neat two tone cases, but actually in a really classy way like proper rose gold bezels and things like that. Um yeah, and and some also very funky wild designs too. So
¶ Finding Unique Vintage Watches
Some neat stuff out there, um, from all these brands that we've mentioned today. So And I'm sure there's a lot that we haven't mentioned. Uh nothing nothing comes to mind, but hey, um some people didn't know that Angalus exists so That's right. So yeah, so check check out these um check out some of these if you're if you're interested in getting a vintage watch that maybe isn't as um
expensive or popular, you're sort of looking for a uh maybe an in inexpensive entry point or something you really want to wear daily. I mean some of these watches if you get them serviced or if they've been serviced Yeah, I was wearing a Movado automatic the other day that I think all in I paid something like eighty five pounds for. Um it was a little bit of a fortuitous find, but after over a week
It was keeping time I I never had to adjust the time, let's put it that way, which is pretty impressive. So Yeah, and better yet don't don't buy something that's popular. Buy something that you like. Don't buy it because it's popular. Buy it because it's cool and and geek out about the dial design or the logo or the movement or the case or whatever it is. I mean I think we've done this
many, many times. Maybe not recently, but If you go back a few years, uh I know we had we had um episodes about one single brand and bringing three three references of a of a single brand and d the the quirkiest, funkiest watches that we could find. Yep. And I think that's the that's the beauty of it. It's the same thing with the um what's the what's the the little the the Eterna.
uh the big case eterno um w watches that I mean yes Eterno has a history and there's also some cool stuff there, but like those pieces with that's very specific Swiss uh steel companies inscription that sometimes you see still today popping up. I think those are those are great examples or certain movados we've mentioned are great examples. Anglo of course Excelsior parks and galleys are great examples, right? I mean
I mean excess your park sadly had its um not so successful day in the sun a couple of years ago. Galley we'll see. I'm I'm I don't know what to think right now, but but again the the vintage uh brand has nothing to do with this one. Um, of course it's a much bigger brand I I know, but um there's so much stuff out there and and um so many brands that worth a mention. Um, even just for one one single model. Yeah. Absolutely. So
Well Balash, I think we're there. Yeah. Um if there's anything else, any other brand that we missed Um let us know in the comments. We can do a we can do a part two. I'm curious what what you guys have in mind. Absolutely. And uh until then, uh I'm gonna hop in my US made new balances, go to the kitchen, take out my Yeti. And um sit down on the couch and uh watch uh Slow Horses season five. Nice. Well enjoy it and with that sir
