The Haw-Hawed Couple (S18E08)

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salad set if you don't start thinking about others. You are going to that party? Mom, I can't go. No one else is well. If no one else jumped out the Empire State Building, would you not jump? Kind of four Finger Discount dude. Welcome to fourth Finger Discount. This week we hit a review episode jab F zero two. It is the whore Hoard Couple. I am dan though, and I am guying. Yes, And individually we're just a couple of twigs, but you put us together and we're

we're one strong bundle of sticks. Yes. I was shocked when I heard this, But it's a word. It's a word. I think. I think our pals Trey and Matt did a whole episode about this particular word. Yeah, yes, how the meaning of particular terms changes over time, but yeah, this was an unexpected gig. It was. Indeed, there's a couple of unexpected lines in this episode where I was like, wow, we

how do you think that one's past the censor? But I guess they can get away with stuff because they can't get any notes from that from the exacts. That is true. And also this was this particular episode was the work of Dando's new bff and dining buddy, Matt Selman. Yes, and he loves to get things past the senses and he did pretty well this time around. Yeah. So the whore Hoard couple an episode that I really enjoyed.

Again, you looked at me like you don't enjoy it? As I often say, it's not that I didn't like it, m No, there, I would think there were aspects of it that I enjoyed more than other parts, and there were some that felt like, ah, this bit's a bit rickety, but we'll get to that as we as we go along, as we break it all down. But generally, I mean, I think one of the issues that I might be having as we enter, you know, season eighteen, as we entered this sort of mid stage is like, but

didn't you already do something like this? You're gott to trade your brain not to do that. I know you have to. When it shows that it's eighteen season, you've got to just you gotta get I did it last week we were talking about the ice cream margin. But it's like it's different when it's a Homer and Marge argum because we've done it so many times. But when it's like, you know, once or twice in the past that Nelson had Bart, it's like, you can let us see. I think you

just have to start letting it slide. It is. And when you put it that way as well, I mean if you're talking about younger characters as well. I mean, you know, the dynamics of the playground are always sort of shifting and evolving and things like that, so it would make sense that maybe you would go back around to something else as well. I don't know the whole well, what do you think you'd seen before, the whole misunderstood Nelson thing. I mean, I think it's it's fertile territory. It's

something you can keep going back to occasionally. But yeah, I think the relationship between Bart and Nelson just being complicated or you know, throwing sort of unexpected friendship and I don't know, people being a bit clinging all that stuff into the mix. It just felt a little haven't I seen this before? And maybe in a way that sort of resonated with me a bit more.

That's not to say that there wasn't stuff in this episode that didn't appeal to me, but yeah, it just felt kind of like, I feel like you've sort of done this and maybe better. But having said that, a fair bit to enjoy. I think we've entered the ear here, and maybe it's just season eighteen, but it's the Each episode's in its own vacuum. It episode up more to me though than when they went to the mall and it was run down and then we returned the next week and the mall thriving

again. I was like, how do you have that difference? Yeah, that's something that feels like a legitimate sort of oversight, like almost like this, you know, three or four different writing crews working on the on the on the show, and like, wait a minute, you guys aren't communicating. You know, the mall was like this, and now it's like this and in the space of two episodes, you can't really have that. No, we're going to notice and you know, we're probably gonna take issue with

it. Yeah, so what we do. I can see how it would be a negative and seen as negative as a result of doing this, but it's just like, I don't know. I'm in that mentality now where I'm just like, we have to stop going we've seen this before, because we start doing it, we'll say every single week, Okay, yes, all right, well I'm not going to pretty but I had my notes here. We've had this story before. However, it's probably gonna happen time and time

again. We need to not think this well and more. Okay, this is Dando giving you more bang for your buck because I'm kind of like, I've seen this before, and Dan's like, we've seen this before, but he's a yes and kind of guy. I'm a no butt kind of fellow. But I liked the different twist on this one here where Bart was like getting the perks of being Nelson's friend in this episode, he could we have

never really had that aspect before. That's true, and I almost wish they had because it seemed to me that the only way they really covered that. I mean, they did it in a few other little ways, but the main way they did it was through that homage to to Goodfellas, where it was good Fellaws the walk you walk in the back entrance, and you know, everyone sort of glad handing you, and ye, you're get in the VIP treatment even though you're not sort of being a vip through the front door.

It's like, well, everybody loves you, but we're still going to sneak you in the back door. I thought that was kind of fun in and of itself and me and you know, good Fellas is a classic, and anytime you can pay tribute to a classic, why not do so. But it didn't. It seemed like the rest of the episode didn't show the benefit for Bart of sort of riding on Nelson's bully coattails. Maybe maybe I

wasn't watching closely enough. I mean, I'm sure they did have bits like that, but it just kind of felt like that was the main way we're illustrating, and he's not getting beaten up by the bullies anymore that I suppose that was the other one. Yeah, yeah, I mean there were really two scenes. To my mind, yea, and it didn't quite feel like enough. I mean, it would have been maybe you could have had him

choosing Nelson over Millhouse. That would have been a fun sort of like story progression there, because he know he's Nelson by going and playing with Millhouse because eggs of mine. But it's like him having to choose over his long lifelong best friend to hang out with Nelson because of the perks he's getting by being friends with Nelson. Probably would have been a more interesting story. It would have been good if he was trying to play both sides of the fans more.

Yeah, And it didn't feel like they explored that just enough. I mean, and because I mean that feels like a very real thing that could happen as well. I mean, if you've got two friends who were very, very different, and you know they wouldn't be friends, but you enjoy spending time with both of them, but you you know you clearly couldn't be a trio. Yeah, I've lived. I've had that. Yeah, Oh

yeah, I think I think so many people have had that. I'm pretty sure I've said so many times on the show about my I threw a fortieth birthday party. Everyone was separated, weren't there and yeah, and I was like, everybody loves guys, so all these people are going to love each other. It's like, no, there were just little clusters all over the places, like none of the people who I like like each other. It wasn't that, but it was more like, oh, this isn't the you

know, the great coming together. I thought it was, yeah, exactly, And I was sort of like running between the three groups all night and sort of like code switching every time. Hey, guys having a great time over here having fun. I really enjoyed the be pot of this. I think because this is obviously touching on Harry Potter. You mentioned on last week's

show Homer is skipping your head because he's so enthralled. He's a broken, lonely adult reading this book and and Lisa's one to skip ahead, but he can't have himself. He has to do it. This now is more relatable in the sense of binge watching shows. And don't lie. You've been binge watching a show with Louise and one point you're going probably watching an episod of two and just not tell her. Right, I've done it with Nikola.

The problem is when you do that, you have to then rewatch it if you want to sell the bit true, because you can't then go is it, admit to it, or sit through it again. Something that works out pretty well for Lu and myself is that our tastes are complimentary in some ways but also different than others. So, I mean, I've got some shows where it's like, I know, Lo's not going to be into this. I was at my place the other night and she was texting what she was

watching. The kids are watching one of those medical like Chicago Meat or something, yeah, and I said, I'm watching it. I'm watching a Netflix documentary about Korean film nerds because I'm me. She sent back to laughing emotion. So I was like, yeah, I wouldn't subject you to this, you know. But she's like she's like really into Yellowstone and I've never really sort of gotten into it and she just watches it by herself. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think we've all got those shows. But I sometimes I see a show right and I'm like, oh, that's the show Nicola I would like to watch, right, And then I'll walk in and it's like Nicholas, the camp continue watching, Like bitch, you started watching I had the force that it go you would like this. She's like,

well, you didn't tell me. You should have known. I was like, yeah, I mean, what's funny is I I don't know if I'm trying to get busted by Amazon for this, but I mean, I I signed into my Amazon Prime account over at lose Place, but it's also on my place. But so Luke can see what I'm watching on Amazon to be careful. Well, I mean, I wasn't watching anything like bad but Naughty unless you can't Morebus because it's like, I'm not in the mood to think

I just want shapes and colors. Yeah, Mobius, Luis, I can't be with the man he watched Morebus. So Lukens, you know next time she goes on the Primes like Morbius on like oh man, oh boy, just in the background while I was doing the folding laundry did it? At first? As you have to think, how does she know? No? I know I knew because her place when we're looking for something on Primes, like hey, no, that's the ship I was watching. Have we to

talking about that? I was just bitch watching this. Yeah, it is basically binge reading. It's binge watching. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I just thought Homer was so sweet throughout all this. You know, he just the way he reacts is how most of us would react with We're just like just the chapter, you know, just the chapter. What the heart

harm could it be? But then at the end, as we discussed sort of like last week, we'll expand more here, he makes the fake ending for Lisa because he doesn't want to ruin her child would be the end of my childhood. I thought it was just a really sweet moment. And then to back it up with Lisa reading real one going dance version was better? Yeah, no, sweet, right, it really was. Yeah, I mean it was a very very sweet, very paternal gesture on the part of

Home. I mean, I'm a I'm a big believer in that fiction sort of prepares you for the real world and a lot of wise oh yeah, a lot of things that we that we do in life preparations for later on in life. Hey, kid, do you like mafussa well? Even having a pet, yeah, you know, I mean it's a great way to learn about responsibilit I mean, of course, you know, my pet is a wonderful fuzzy buddy to unless got a goldfish. It's a what's the pretty

buddy? Yes, indeed, old real taate, but yeah, it's a great way to learn about responsibility and also, sadly a great way to learn about, you know, our lifespans a kind of fine. Not everyone's going to be here forever. Can you remember the first not everyone family member that you remember losing? For me, it was my grandfather, my mum's dad, so that and that was sort of like the first somebody experienced death that

would impact me. I think it was my mother's grandfather as well, and I was not his grandfather, father or grandfather, oh sorry, my mother's father. My mother's father, my grandfather, who I didn't really know all that well. I mean, I think he was pretty deep into dementia by the well, so whenever I would see him would basically just be the old dude sitting in the chair when we would go and visit with him. My

grandpa was just unexpected. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean to all by all accounts, it was a wonderful fellow, a very sweet guy. But I mean I didn't really know him at all, but I remember how distraught my mom was in the morning. That's what you remember isn't it. I remember my mom coming home deshort, that's what I remember. Yeah, yeah, I mean I remember waking up one morning and my mum had clearly got the news, and my dad said to me go down and say

to your mum that you're sorry to hear about papa. We call papa. So, yeah, Papa Rossa was Yeah, that's one because that was mum's maiden name. And I remember going down and she was just sitting at her you know, he's sitting in her bedroom and just crying. I know this was the first time I probably seen my mum cry. Yeah, And I said, I'm sorry about that. But even though I didn't really help you. I would have been about six or seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

but I remember that vividly. But yeah, I mean that's you've got to have those lessons and if you can sort of sugarcoat them, or you know, it's sort of cushion the blow a little by a bit by way of fiction or whatever, or I was about to say, even by being an animal. That's probably even more traumatic. But I thought, I thought, was that yeah, and Mohamma did here, No, no, there

was it was a lovely gesture. Yeah, because you know, sometimes like they're feeling very strongly about this, let's let's ease the blow a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, because I thought it was going to be when he did it, I was like, we're going to get at least of being angry at homer story because he went ahead. And that's the thing. Yeah,

I mean I was bracing myself again, talk about bracing herself. I was thinking, oh God, this is going to be fucked up, and you'll give some half fast kind of kind of apology at the end and everyone everything will go back to normal. No, he actually played it pretty well. Yeah, it was a plan. And why did not see this ending coming at all? Yeah? It was and it was appreciated by Lisa, you know. I mean she recognized as well that it's like he meant well

and he actually did. Well, that's the cherry on the cake, just at Leasta acknowledging it. Yeah, that was good. That was good. Yeah, because she's old enough to she's smart enough to be able to handle it. But I hope, but to home, she still is a little girl very much. So yeah. Yeah, I mean we sort of talk a bit about can we get Lisa right? Yeah, And this felt like they did Lisa right in that she's smart and precocious, but also yeah,

willing to and happy to be a child. You mentioned our boys training that before with the word but this episode. He was nominated for a Primetime Emmy Award in two thousand and seven for Outstanding Animated Program, but it lost to south Park. Oh like south Park? Going down to south Park? Check it out in all of your feeds, whether it be Spotify, Apple Podcasts, over listen to your podcast going down to south Park. Check it out. It's a hell of a good time, my favorite. All right,

misnavous, what were your favorite moments from the hard Hord couple? Having said that, I don't have that many actually sort of highlights, I've got one here, but I'm like, I enjoyed a lot more than that. Yeah, I've got the better than walking in on both your parents instead of just one. I was like, holy moly, that's a really that's a pretty great game. That's either that's either the way having fun or Kirk being sad. It's Kirk cry winking. Yeah. I was like, after you,

what does that reader choose your indventure? All right, well, what would be worse to work walking on? Oh? I think it's much worse walking on your dad wanking than your mum pleasuring yourself. Right, walking on your dad wanking? What is that? To quote the great tagline from Alien Versus Predator, whoever wins we lose? Have you ever walked in on just your parents? No? No, I think I think that the encounter that resulted in me might have been the last. No, I'm sure it wasn't.

No, I never I never walked in. I think I like I when I was younger, I think I may have. I've never like discussed it with my parents. I feel like I may have, like about to walk in and heard something I was like, oh, just god the other direction. Now I feel these memory of like maybe that happening, But I'm like, I'd rather pretend it didn't happen, So I'm not going to try and deal further into that memory. That room sounds haunted. What are those girls

getting up to in there? I did enjoy that moment. The other thing that I enjoyed, and I alluded to it in our previous episode before You're like my favorite moments for next week's episode of like how do we stop hit me? With the ban? Said? Well, talk about that episode when we get to that episode, so it's like this week's episode begins with and we talking about a fait moment for next week. First hope we don't,

because I'm unclearly of a mind that time is not linear. But something I really enjoyed from this episode was Lisa eating the ice cream and discovery she found a major marshmallow vein. She was so excited for it, she was indeed, Now, let me talk about what I wanted to talk about the previous episode, which why don't we talk about next week's episode? How about we jump ahead? Inn I'm back when I was a little kid, say around ten years old. I believe the fine folks at Streets or maybe Peter's ice

Cream, but Peter Street's the same thing. But do they become one eventually? Maybe I'm wrong Street, Peter, Streets, Streets, this Streets ice cream? And I think there's Peter's ice cream. Who does the puddle pops? That's Streets, right? I think? So? I think Streets is the one that's you know, streets ahead street speak, Yeah, Peter. What's what's Peter's ice cream? Which one that's Peter's Blue ribbon or Streets Blue

ribbon, Peter Peter's even a thing does make it up? Samas sounds like a thing Pete's ice cream, and they's come up with Peter's Pete's ice cream. No, it is not Australia's favorite ice cream and a true Australian icon, but it's like that. So it's like that, it's more like tubs. That's not well that's what I'm talking Yeah, okay, yeah, well I'm actually talking about tubs. Yeah, so it's like Peter's ice cream is the tubs? Yeah, okay, Well this was this ice cream was called

Sunday and it's was kind of a Neapol. It was like, you know, had Neapolitan's got the three stripes, right, Pete Peter's here go. They did drumsticks and Maxi bomboms. I knew it was Peter's. Yeah we go. Oh no, this was like Neapolitan, but all like it melted in the car, so all the colors were melted into one another. But it also had these Petit marshmallows in it, and I fucking loved it. But that's for like last week a memory of a food. But I would

be you know, sort of going through it. But I would do that thing as you can taste it, right, Yeah, as Bart did in the previous episode where he's like, I only like the clown heads and the Krusty Cereal. I was like, I only like the marshmallows, And so I'd be going through it and like I'd be like like an archaeologist. I'd be like Alan Grant a Jurassic Park dusting off the little marshmallows are putting him in a bowl. So I've got like a tiny scoop of ice cream and

a ship done, a marshmallow, a tub of ice cream. Yea, and everyone's in the Binigo came with marshmallowsad kid who had this kid who brought in All right, we did damn it New Year's Eve anyway. But yeah, that was Lisa's appreciation of just finding, Yeah, a nice vein of caramel or marshmallow or just that flavor in your otherwise perfectly fine but bland ice cream. Yeah, that's great. Next question, you there eating the beast. Yes, it's trivia time, which means it is also shout out time

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the four Fingered Discount Network. It means the world to me that you're willing to part with your dollary dues and help support us here and keep this show in your ears every single week. I'm going to hit you with my first question that, mister Davis, if you don't mind, because I've only got one written here, so I have to make up a couple more whilst you're reading me in one of yours. My first question is what is Nelson's address? It's written on the invitation. Oh my god, I did not pay

any attention to that as a free famery one. It was nineteen Fish Smell Drive. It sounds like another gig. That's kind of okay, let's go there. No Um Bart is doing a report on which River Bart is doing a report on Nile On the Nile. How did Nelson's mum get all the money for the party. Uh did she was an amusement park accident just to get hit in the head by something? Yeah, hit her head on a carnival ride. On a carnival ride. What is the name of the Munk's

family cat? Oh, mister Mooch's or something. It's mister Mooch, all right. And my final question for you will be where did they go to fight Star Wars? In the finale of Homer's story, they go to Star Wars Star Wars to fight Star Wars. I have a question related the Dragon King's trundle bed is the witch installment in the Angelica Button series We'll want to

see ninth and you would be correct in saying that, alright. One of my additional trivia questions was what is the name of the headmaster in the Angelica Button series? And then they say it like twenty times very stash, all right. The original air date of The Whoreharde Couple was December tenth, two thousand and six. It was written by Matt Salmon and directed by Chris Clements.

The cash gag Noise on a chalk Gate cash gag was Homer or Shiman's Homer cuts a piece of paper into the shape of him, pulls it out to reveal the rest of the family holding hands and says, we who. So the episode kicks off with and we didn't touch on this aspect of the story, but we're gonna do it now, obviously because it's where the episode kicks off with Bart and Lisa wanting mom and dad in the morning. You

know you're drinking coffee now it's warm pepsi and they walk in. It sounds like margin Homer are fighting, right, they've recorded this argument, but really that's one a chance of snuggle. And I'm like, we're hitting that era of our lives now where the kids are like at six o'clock we're getting out, we want breakfast, And I'm like, fuck, have you never heard of morning snuggles? Yeah, I'm just like, ah, like this morning, honestly, God, Like, the kids are at my parents' place.

Nicholas sat him from work today show wasn't feeling well. I'm like, this is lovely because Ali usually like sneaks in the middle of the night. I'm just like, kid free bed, we're just hanging out, just relaxing, letting it all hang out. Yeah, just this is great. Do it with the door rope. But I just love the I'm not saying they did it with the door Roe. Oh, I thought you might have been here. But I just love the idea of you just love seeing margin Homer just

having this relationship. You know, they fight so often in season eighteen, all these modern episodes, but it's nice when you see them just being nice to each other, yes, and going to great length to have the chance to snuggle. I just thought we might have to do this sometimes, recording that fake fight with a great idea. Now the kids won't bother us during I'm morning snuggle. Dear Lord, thank you for the physical intimacy we are

about to enjoy. And it's always have fun watching God of making it must really kind of mess with people brought up in very religious households. It's like God is always watching when I'm rocking it? What about what about when I'm cranking? Yeah, it's seen as like is it a sin to do that? Apparently? I don't think the Catholics are with it too bad, but I'm a bad Catholic. They throw their clothes off and then knocks the tape and starts playing the candy fan music, and this is where they walk in

and they see it. Well, yeah, it was some horse with no name, wasn't it? Yes, ye, county fair music, and I did. I've told you I went to a county fair in the in the US when we were over there recently. It was great. Was it America playing? No, it was actually Bob Marley's son, Damien. Oh wow, not Ziggy. No, he is a Ziggy. I'm pretty sure Siggy Marley is the one that's saying that Arthur theme song every day when you're walking down the street. Oh and that TV show Arthur. I thought you were

talking about the movie Arthur. No, I know that's the kids show like Arthur's Seamers when you Caught between the Moon and New York City. Yeah, I know, yes, for that, which I mentioned in the Friends podcast one about Friends. Check it out you haven't checked out there ready? Once

again a demonstration of the generation gap dividing dandel and Guy. Yeah, Arthur for all Uninited Kids was one of those belover shows that it's like when I was on, you loved it, but you never sort of went out of your way to watch it, but apparently went for like thirteen seasons or something else. Let me a look, have you ever seen this, Arthur kid, I'm aware of the show. By the way, for all your generation exit listeners, Arthur was, of course the movie starring Dudley Moore as the

lovable drunken billion Yeah. Also remade a little later on with Russell brandt our first date Nichol and I was going to see the remake with Russell Brand. Oh my god, okod that's Arthur. Do you ever see that? I'm not seeing the show, but do you ever seen image? Yeah? Yeah, because there's a great no glasses on the Little Girl? Oh yeah, dj d W DW. Yeah. I don't know the show it on, but I just saw this great screencap woods. Oh yes, the library card

on. I have a library hat. Now I know what true power is. So I can relate after a fantastic show. That's great theme music and Ziggy I believe Ziggy Marley was one of that saying theme song A right, I said, Damian Marley. It was actually Stephen Marley. Stephen Marley, Okay, isn't it? But the canfa was so good? I mean, and did you get to have a dog of some kind? I had a

what were you call in Australia or dag would dog. I believe they call on a corn dog corn do in the I'll tell you what you have given me ship for not putting stuff on the patron page. There's a picture of me about to enjoy a corn dog. It's in my phone. I'm gonna put it on the patron page. It right now. I'm going to film you doing it. This is going to be our weekly work. We'll get a message. Here. We are guys reading his message instead of doing what

you're supposed to do. So, guys going to put a picture. Now, hold up to the phone here, I'm filming this right for the patrons. You're on camera, Candid, how you doing all right? This might take it one. He's sitting there holding it about six feet from his eyes, doing that doing the classic one hand. Scribn't know exactly where it is. Okay, well you do this at some point. Just wave to the camera as pushed up. Okay, on drinking, you're cranking it. Oh,

I mean look so happy here. This is great. Oh those were the days she's so pretty sorry about. Later, we've got time of the essence we're gonna get that's true. Yeah, I mean I rabbed it on last one, but all right, going, let's keep talking. Yes, let's keep talking. So yes, basically they've seen them doing it and it didn't go down too well. So then the bar is now horrified. At school, Trust me, Bart, it's better to walk in on both your parents than I just one of them. Hey, Digs, give me your

lunch money, Well, what will I eat at midday? In primary school had the issue of like lunch money, haven't look we just true like. We occasionally would have Oh you do look happy? What is that? That's a corn dog? A corn dog? Wow? Oe? Yeah cool?

Put up in the Patreon group. So when we were kids, the closest thing we had to this was getting a lunch order d lunch orders where you would write what you want on a paper bag, put it into like a washing basket, and they would take it to the canteen and the kid would return from lunch from the canteen with a washing basket full of like meals that sounds rad I never had that two party pies, one sausage row and one solace when dad would. I always brought my own life occasionally in my six

million dollar man lunchbox that I have alluded to the past. But we also had the tuck drop at school where you would go usually at recess, and it was like, how about it doing it or a sassage reel or something, because you know, growing bodies need junk food. Yeah. Remember when they used to have lollies and shits at school? Those were the day. Oh my god. Yeah. It was when I was at high school that they banned like coke and things like that, and I was like, what

are you doing? I certainly hope you. I just imagine you rock after the head, but do what the fuck is this? And then we just have to sneak down to the supermarket to get our chips and gravy in a bottle of coke, you know. Oh yeah, of course you had to. Jesus Christ look at it. One of the greatest inventions that I claim this at my school anyway, because no one has at my school has done it before. But you get a cheese and bacon roll, but then put

a hash used to cut it in half and toast them. Right, Yeah, cheese bacon, but put a hash brown in it because they would butter the cheese and bacon rolls before they put into the toaster oven. But you buy a hash brown and put it in at the cheese and bacon roll squished together. Oh dear Delicious, tell you what I love. It was a good hash brown. Yeah, hash browns in cheese and bacon rolls even better.

It's very impressive. Alright, let's continue. And there's that point where it became like an addiction because all the kids in the school are like eating hat that like buy actually cheese and bacon rolls. They'd sell out, Like you didn't get there early enough. They would sell out of cheese bacon rolls because kids would like go there and spend ten bucks and buy all the cheese and bacon rolls and hash browns and then sell them for more. But this

is obviously Nelson's taken his money. And then he invites him to his party. Wants everyone to come to his party, so he's not a nice person, but he also wants them to come to his party. And the sort of the story of this episode is that Nelson just doesn't know how to socialize. I guess, yeah, he's got poor social sills or he is. He always goes to extreme again, where is his dad buying cigarettes and scratches? No, but he came back. Remember, yeah, I know and

they just never it is never. It was never there again. I was like, that was such a great character plot point. They never And I brought this up with Matt. I was like, he's He's like, I don't know, Like, what do you mean, I don't know. Yeah, I think that was one of the best things you took away from your Your time with Matt's alone was like, continuity doesn't mean ship. It was just like, yeah, well he just did just did not care, done, done, onto the next one. He's like, newity there fuity.

That explains a lot, man, but nobody wants to go he got He makes his look at his baseball cards are not any good? And you have no gift bags. I'm like that. He's like, Honestly, now that I've got kids, the one thing kids appreciate the most at a birthday part not the cake. It's the gift bags. So what's in the gift bags?

Usually some lollies to take it. It's usually lollies. Look, you get like two dollars shop and buy like a bag of useless shit, you know, little army man on dinosaurs, little little things where you're full of like water and you push the buttons and the little rings go up. It's useless shit. But it's like a kid's birthday party is judged not by what happens during the party, it's by the gift bag. It's it's birthday,

but you get the presents. Yes, exactly right. Everyone's like if you Ali went to a birthday party recently and they didn't have gift bags and the kids went home mad, Oh my god, I gonna write like the kids were like, what do you mean. I felt so bad for the parents, the parent and the kid because the kids like my mama's gift badge're like do you gift bags? And I was like, oh man, I was like, Alliot Beach shut up. But all the kids were like they were

going to write, they were like, where are the gift bags? That kid is probably just you know, the pariah from now. Honestly, if you're ever going to live that down, if you're the parent of a kid in primary school, make sure you provide gift bags. Do not forget gift bags. Otherwise you know a lot of atomic wedgies in your child's future. One hundred percent. Yeah, And so they say this is where we get the the F word, which I feel bad and weird in't saying it,

but this, this was said in two thousand and six. I don't think you would even make this joke anymore. Even though it's a real word, it's just an uncomfortable word because because of how that real word was taken and used in such a way. Yeah, that you just don't want to say it anymore. That's true. Yeah, I'll plan a clip because the Simpsons did us, because the Simpsons said it, not us. Wait, what

if nobody goes he can't kill all of us? He's right, individually, we are weak like a single twist whatever bundle week form are mighty faggot. And there we go. So Martin said that word, and we shall move on. And in a nice bit of buck covering, they did provide the dictionary dictionary definition. Yeah on the screen. Yeah. I wonder if Matt someone wrote that and was like, take that piece. He kills it nice when schooled, well played, well played. But no, hell no,

we won't show. They're all ranting and rave. They don't want to go will He hears it and says, hell no we won't. Mo gets fired. No pension, No, no pension at all. Lisa a Marche couple I can't imagine the Penson would have been very good anyway, really, probably not, but every little bit helps. Yep. Lisa and Marge, I can't believe that Bart is organized for everyone not to go to Nelson's party.

They're like, how menant you think for Nelson? And it's almost like they're playing on the history of because recently had Marge with like looking after Nelson and Lisa once dated Nelson. It's like, if you're playing up that history, you can't really ignore it in continuity for this episode as well. Correct with

Bart being friends of him and things like that. Yeah, because I think that's what I meant because in that episode where he lived with the Simpsons, he became friends with Bart when Bart sort of saw he saw him singing out the window and it's like, oh shit, this kid. You know. I think Bart was the one who went and found his dad. I believe so, because he was at the Fair County there and he saw him at the Freaks in the Freaks thing because he had all the peanuts. So I

was like, yeah, how do we forget that? But they forgot his dad? His dad if a friend of the pod met Selman forgot about it, exactly. I think it's okay for us to forget about it. Do you think of marche smacking Bart? I was like, I was like, wow, wouldn't spoon beating? But I kind of laughed because I was like, wasn't a hit of just like wake up to year up? I'll do it. But you know, if no one else would jump off, if no one else jumped off the Empire State Building, would you not jump?

Can't I get Don't you love it when they like your You're two thirds into one of those statements, You're like, this doesn't make sense, but I have to go all the way. If I say with a conviction, hopefully the underlying message will get through. Yeah. Yeah, Lisa says, you don't worry, the party will be fun and you're never gonna get a husband. Were being sarcastic. Okay, no husband, you're gonna get a husband.

That's just like such a marge thing to say. But Homer is not driving Bart to the party, and he's giving Homer a backrob to try and encourage him not to take him there, and trying to get himself out of the party. But you still have to go whow We all have to do things we don't want to like have jobs and families and responsibilities and having to

be mister funny all the time. You think I wouldn't rather be living nowd in the forest like some ancient pagan, just dancing around playing the pan flute. And here we are for something I've written Here is I wonder if a few midlife crises happening in the writer's room at this time. It feels like it, doesn't it it? Yeah, sure, and running for the Simpsons, But no one told me life was gonna be this way. But they're

all by the way. Look, I'm sorry. I know you. You're doing a special episode with Nick. Yeah, it's already available, but look, I just personally want to give a shout because, yeah, it's going to mean so much. But uh, we should probably have mentioned this on last week's show. It's a little late now. I know. We did do some magic editing, but we basically were recording this back to back so that we explained it on last week's show that the patrons are our week ahead,

but this is actually been recorded on the first of November. Look, it's a timeless message. Rest in peace, Matthew Perry. I dug you a whole lot. Man, I thought you were just fantastic. Yeah, I'm I'm sorry your demon's caught up to you, even though you didn't finish reading his book. I never started. You've got it as a gift or whatever, good for a free and you're like, I've got a chapter in. I was like, I know what it's going to be. I think I read a bit of it, and I'm that's one way of looking at

the gesture that I made. That's what you said. The other is, I know you guys are into Friends, and particularly Nicola, I think we know. We thank you numerous times on the podcast for the book. We mentioned it during this special. Now I'm gonna start listening to that podcast. That was like we got the book. I remember I said to Nicola, yeah, I got to your present and then she was like oh. I was like immediately, I was like, the guilt guy did it. It

wasn't me. He did everything. But yeah, Matthew Perry, as we said on that on the Friends podcast, was that revisiting the show for the podcast, it made me realize and appreciate just how much he brought to that show. Oh god, yeah, I mean, in all honesty, he was one of the best to ever do it in terms of sitcom acting, the sarcastic humor percent Oh yeah, yeah, But I mean the guy was like an absolute machine in terms of timing, in terms of inflection, in

terms of physicality. That's what Nicola brought up to, just his mannerisms and the way he delivered everything. And yeah, and it's important, I asked Nicola, of all the six main cast I'll ask you now, who do you think has the longest legacy. Who do you think will live on forever? And will You can say Matthew Perry now because he won't age. Will always remember him as being young matt with fifty four year Matthew Pai. But like Chandler esque, right, he's not gonna become like are you compared to

Paul McCartney. We remember John Lennon as being forty year old Johnlennon. He didn't become eighty year old John Lyn. Pau McCartney has, right when when he passes, you'll envision eighty year Oldau McCartney, not young Paul McCartney. But who from that show, Like for example, people friends fans will say things like, oh I was on a break and all that thing on a break. But everyone, even if you don't watch Friends, says, could

I be anymore? That's become part of our life. Yeah, it's with all due respectause, I mean it's an ensem that just works so well together, right, Yeah, with all due respect to the other cast members, I think the ones who are going to have the longest legacy are probably Perry and h and Jennifer ands Andison because of her acting career. Yeah yeah, I mean she's had real longevity and again in her way, not quite as polished a performer as a comic reformer was Perry, but incredible comic chops and

incredible screen presence. She's really good. They're all really good. Yeah. But yeah, I just wanted to give that quick shout out because as it hit me hard, oh, because I was saying, very few celebrity deaths hit me really really hard, but this one hit me hard. Yeah, I mean, James Gandel Foeneie hit me very very hard, and so did Philip Simoa Hoffman and the fe that was just about to sort of just rise

of and high and would just you know, keep going forever. You know, you'd be happy to see the work of Gandalfini when he was seventy or eighty, like what was Philip's lonro Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, Matthew Perry is my age, was my age? Yeah, And as someone who uses sarcastic humor as a defense and offense mechanism, yeah, I really relate to the guy. Honestly, when I'm doing the podcast now, I'm like, I am Chandler, Like I think many of us are

Chandler. We just didn't realize it. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, because I think Charlie becomes the punching bag of the show where a lot of people don't watch friends use his whips as his quips. I should say as a oh it's too ridiculous and over the top. I can't. It's forced. But like if you if you watch the show, probably like, no, he's there's a real humanity underlying everything that he did, even when it was heightened, and even when it was you know, yeah that like a

punchline or something like that. No, there was always the character of Chandler being before there were that drove the gags as opposed to the other way around. So yeah, I had a lot a lot of time for that guy. I did back in the nineties, and I did to the to the moment he died in all longest was he was my It was my favorite. It was so nice that we got his book last year, absolutely, like just in time, you know what I mean. And the fact that he

does the audio book as well. I'm like, isn't that just like such a lovely fitting? It's a farewell now. We didn't realize it at the time, but it's just so great that we have that now where he gets it. He gets to tell us from his active his life. Absolutely, it's not just something that people whipped up after he passed away. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. So sorry to sort of sidetrack a little bit and a little bit late, but I would be remiss if I didn't give my man

a bit of a shout out and a bit of a tribute. So rest in peace, Matthew Perry. But then arrives at the party and it's actually an awesome setup. You know, do I hear dial toming because this party's off the hook and Nelson clearly he's isn't that We all fear it when we kids, when you put on a birthday party, it's like, oh God, I hope everyone arrives and has a good time. I felt bad for Nelson here, even though he's not being nice to everybody, and it's understandable

why people aren't there. It's like, I hate seeing people kids in particularly in this situation where you're just like not embarrassed, but it's almost just like so disappointed. It's a it's a weird it is embarrassment, but it's more just like, ah, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassment disappointment. Yeah. And it's a blend of the two, though, isn't it. Yeah? Very much so. I mean naturally, I think, oh shit, what have

I done wrong? And then yeah, you know you're going to catastrophize and think, oh, well I've done this wrong, on this wrong, on this, on this wrong, on this wrong. Yep, And that's what Bart points out to him. But you know, he said, he punches the jumping castle, Spider Man arrives a quick nitpick. Yeah, where are the other bullies? I thought they were? Is well? I was going to bring that up later in the episode. It's just like, yeah,

so why weren't they there? Maybe they're off beaten up toddlers at the preschool, he knows, But yeah, that aside you know, the Spider Man guy arrives and you get ten minutes materials. Maybe we should come back a little bit later, but Bart reveals nobody's coming. He doesn't actually come clean. No, that he organized the boycott at Alder in the episode. That's true. Oh yeah, I mean that would have been a nice resolution. I thought I thought that was going to be so like now, how I

would have done this Nelson. He chooses Nelson over Millhouse, and then Millhouse reveals to Nelson that he's the one. He's the reason we didn't come to your party, and that's what splits up out of spite. That makes a lot of sense. Get get your buddy, Matt's one on the phone. We should be right in this show. How I would have done it? Yeah, that's how we were done it, how it should have been done, Matt. We can work over Zoom or Riverside preverably Zoom, but Riverside.

We love Riverside. Friend of the Pod, Riverside, Yeah, I honestly do love Riverside guy. Don't worry about this guy. This man does not represent us. Riverside a lot. I've appeared on numerous podcasts by which I'm into using Riverside and it's great. But as he said, no one's coming because but he blames Nelson. He's like, because you're a joke. You know, you're a joke sometimes that's why. That's why nobody's coming. And he says, well, you know, you have a friend with me.

So they basically they enjoyed the party. It's just the two of them, and I enjoyed them having a good time beating up doctor Octopus. Is there is there a worse gig than children's party entertainer? It depends on how the kids behave, Like if you're there to be a punching bay, yes, but if you're there like magician doing tricks. I went to a birthday party last November and there was a magician doing tricks and I was like, oh, dig you down, these are some fucking cool tricks. And the

kids were hope. He said that there's a budget. The kids were in awe and they were going along with it. I was like, apparently, I asked mother, I'm like, how much did this guy get paid? That was twenty minutes, four hundred dollars. I'm like, that is the easiest money this guy make. God, yeah, it's probably gone on YouTube learn some learn some close up magic or something. Yeah, oh that's rare. Yeah. There was actually a magician on this week's episode of Have You

Been Paying Attention? Right? He was like the a new magician entrepreneur, like extraordinary from Australia, and like his trick was that he had the host, what's his name, Tom Glass? Tom Glass, uh, put a card into a book and then anywhere in the book right, And he held it out and said, now, what page number is it? Right?

And Tom says one eighty three, and then all this other shit happened, and it was like basically there was a jar of jelly beans over on the jar over on Sam Pang's desk, and he lifted it up and it was had one on three under the lid. And I was like, yeah, but didn't you just go to Tom before the show and say say it's page one three? Because they didn't show us what page it was. It was just we had to go by Tom's word. And I'm like, this is

a pretty shitty. This is no child's birthday parting magician. No, no at all was it was like fantastic Dan or something. I was like, I went even my birthday party that's a dope name. Fantastic Dan. I make sure it's right fantastic. We don't give me an actual proper shading, because I was like this magic is fucking yeah, doves and everything, you'd live animals, but just yard, I mean, I must have meant we're dazzling Dan. Dazzling Dan the Magic Man. Okay, yeah, that's pretty

good geelong magician and illusionist. Yeah, gelo, it was legitimate. I was like, oh, I'm so hopefully he's got a YouTube chanurnealist. He's got he's got pages. Yeah, check it a dzzling Dan the Magic Man. But anyway, getting back to entertainment, so doc, ok here we turned on your birthday presents and whole work. And but Nelson it's beat Hi Matt and then they beat up the pinarda spidy dog. It is sitting there

chilling with Homer and Nelson's mum just enjoying. The kids joined themselves at Lisa then asked Bart how the party was. He says, no, I had a great time. He thinks it's all over with Nelson, and look I went there having a good time. I was polite to him. But now

we're gonna go back to normality. But unfortunately Nelson now greets him on the bus and treating him like a best friend, and I was just like the anything for me here was like, I get why you wouldn't want anyone everyone to know that you went to the party because you want to instigate it the whole thing. But having Nelsons your friend is probably going to have more positives than negatives, as we would soon see. So why are you embarrassed by

this? I guess it runs cams to everything. I mean, all the lead up to the boycott and everything like that. Yeah, I mean, but was kind of the ring leader of that. So it's gonna look a little hypocritical and a little um or that he's just a coward in front of all these other people on the bus. Yeah. True. But Nelson gives Bart an entire case of pulky chalk and passes, look, I don't have

time for new friends. I've got all this other stuff to do. By when he's doing that, he bumps into Jim Bow and Nelson saves him from the bullies, and where he realized, oh shit, it's actually gonna have its perks. You know, I forgot how cool Bart was, and Bart say's got because someone's smaller and weaker. So they say they're gonna go whale on some toddlers whilst they're napping. Then we have so this again Marge flooting

with Homer here. I was like, but there's a line he so he says marital sex, right, and he goes to uh speed up bedtime? And I was like, I have never led it to home this moment. But he's like, she smells like coconut. I was just like, this is life bedtime with children because soon it's bedtime for adults. Yes, but honestly, anyone who is a parent of small kids has experienced this moment, especially if the other day was just like I'll see in the bedroom. It's

like kids, bed Now, read your fucking books quick. You're not dressed, get into bed. Only who when you're done putting Lisa to bed, we can finish what we started the other day. Whoa marital sex? Okay? Tight, classic water laid, no barniles, don't do drugs? Love you good night? Dad? Can't you read me a story for a little bit? Would your mother smells like coconut? Okay, sweetie? Which book should I read? Angelica? Button and the Dragon King's trendle Bed. It's

the ninth book in the Angelica Button series. Oh yeah, this is that fantasy book that even grown ups like broken lonely grown ups. Chapter one, the ruby Stone in the door portal. Are you asleep yet? No? Sovery then raids the store and he loves it, and to the point where he wants to keep reading, but Lisa wants to go to sleep. He wants to read a head She says, no, you gotta read it with me. He tries to get it, but she's holding onto the book.

She went let him. Then we have Nelson and bat and they're at school or they're on top of the school actually making fun of the sunset, and sunt I thought, yeah, I'm pretty sure it says sunset, because it'd be weird to be there in the morning, right, you'd be more gonn to be there in the afternoon. The morning, wouldn't get it? I think you would be there closer to sun ris than sunset. Why would they want to go to Why would they get up early to watch the sunrise because

it's beautiful? I don't know. Would you either five thirty in the afternoon or fucking five am? I don't know. I mean part of me wants to be a morning person. Like an early morning person. I love. I love when you wake up with it's like no cars around, magpies are out squawking, your crow buddies are out there. Yeah. But but then he says to Nelson, here, do you ever wish that you weren't a

bully? He's like, no, I have to. You know, the shark can't strom they blow up, you know, I have to be a bully, and it gives him his own Nelson vests and the sleeves were torn off, torn off by a wild dogs. Another song rebel, He's a rebel. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. And they really fucked out money for the for the rights of this season, haven't they so far.

I've gone wild with the soundtracks. Yeah, I mean what the last episode was like, Missy Elliott and yeah you get your freaked on and money for nostraates and money for nothing, Yeah, money for nothing, and that song will not come cheap. That is certainly true. And also Jack MANDIONI feel so good, yeah, as opposed to who's saying he's so good. John Mellencamp, John Cougar, Melon Cougar Mellencamp. Yeah, because it was. It was for a while he was Johnny Cougar. Yeah, I think it

was John Cougar Mellencamp. And I don't know if he is still John Cougar Mellencamp or he's just John Mellencamp these days. He's so good. Is a banger, it's really good. Come on baby. But it's just a really cool point of view shot here of getting all the perks like our Good Fellows, like you were saying yes, and it's Bart doing like the voiceover over the top, even though so the to the point, even at the end it's a freeze frame, isn't there there is yeah, which I believe is

Good Fellows has got to share a freeze frames. So yeah. Homer then arrives at at home and Marge's annoy because Lisa's not there, because he's looking for Lisa to read the book. She's that Janie's because her mum makes a good mac and cheese. Never ever ever tell your mum that someone else's mom makes a better version of something. They will never forget it. I remember once I've told my mum that someone made a better spaghetti, and she still reminds me to this day. Oh my god, don't do it, and

never tell your wife that you prefer your mum's cooking your hairs. Oh god, you're really You're in a trap, there, aren't you. You're in a real bind. Yeah, because my mom, like, I'm gonna throw that makes the best roast. Rive. Everyone's mum make the best roast. Rid. It's the roast that you grew up with everyone and mum's roast. But everyone always wants my mum to make the roast beef for Christmas right when

she's cooking the rost, because she does it the best. And Nicola tried cooking it at once, and I was like, in my head, this isn't as good as your mum's. But do not tell her. She knows. She knows. Do not bring it up. It's pretty obvious. Yeah, this isn't chewy, honey, this is great. But I've mentioned this before on the podcast. If I don't acknowledge the food, Nichola will say it's not bad. I'm like, yeah, it's good. She knows if

I'm not enjoying it, if I don't say how good it is. So now I'm just like in my head, whether you like it, or not. Just compliment the food. Always say, always compliment the food. You and I are both very fortunate. Yeah, everything that our significant others make is pretty delicious. So I went for fib including the love. Let's move on, I very rarely say, guy flustered, Homer home. You must read ahead. Fiction is your passion, Lady, You're nice, but I'm

married. Just read the book you shaved ape. Oh I can't read ahead, I promised Lisa, I wouldn't just take a peek at the title of the next chapter and see if you can resist an unexpected occurrence? What could it be? We hooked him gallahead. Yeah, kind you've won. So many shows now are made with a cliffhanger ending at the episode. It used to happen occasionally, but like back in the day, there wasn't as much choice, and I was like, you know, you just knew the people

were going to tune in the following week bin shows. Now it's like every episode has to end with a cliffhanger. Yeah, it used to be just like you have a standline episode like you guys back next week. It's all good. Yeah, yeah, but I feel like now with the binge mentality, do you think the fangers are required because you just know it's like, then i't have to wait that extra week they get if the play next episode starts by time they got off the cash, you're just going to watch the

next episode anyway. You know, if you've got on watching to the end, they're probably going to watch the next one because mentality, Now, if you don't like a show, you're not going to watch a whole episode. Yeah, I'd say that's true. Our attention spans don't last. Well, it's like we give it ten minutes, we're not we're not enjoying it within ten fifty minutes. We'll just put something else on. If you've gone the

entire way, you're probably going to watch the next episode. Well, they're doing half the work for us. It's like and also, you know, Netflix especially is letting you know very kindly. It's like two more episodes to go. There's a shitty though when it starts playing the next one because you can't find the mark, like I do want to watch the next one now it started up. That's true. I mean the times like no, I want to watch the crid Yeah, who played so and so? Yeah that's

it? Yeah, yeah, something happening during the credits and then just like in the small scom like, what is this? What are you doing? What are you talking about? Milhouse then asked Bart, you know, why are you hanging out with Nelson? Oh? Actually no, have we got that part? Yeah? Yeah, he spoils the greast ash for the white guy Millhouse and Bart and then asking, actually, before we get there, why is Marginal wanting the bank? Now? This is that chance, Lisa.

Is all the house bars not in the house. Why they're banging women? Amateurs? Who understands them? Milhouse? And I said, he asked why you're hanging out with Nelson? And he calls him a bully. He doesn't like him using the bully word, but then he says other boys can use it. Yeah. He calls Bart a sidekick and that gets him going. But then they go and fly kites, you know, and nothing sees it gets angry and breaks see Captain's leg. Yeah, it was really unusual.

It's really weird. It wasn't like it was a joke, it was just he stabs his leg. Yeah. I was expecting that. When it went the next scene, I was like, is he going to be branching the legs as like weapons or something. Nothing. No, But then, so did you know that red and blue are the colors of friendship? I did not know. I wasn't aware. But I'll make sure your birthday present

next time is blue and or red, Thanks very much. Yeah, arrives, he's getting a demon's jumper, but arrives late to Nelson's house and he's waiting all this time to smash the FuG and I was like, this is the aspect of Nelson that I don't like killing animals? Yeah, Like, there was the episode but the Mother where Nelson wanted him to kill the bird and but deliberately tries to miss, but I had a crooked sight and he

kills the bird. I'm like, there's always been an element of being cruel to animals and story right, So it rained when I was picking the kids up from daycad the other day, and for some reasonut it rains, all the snails come out on the footpath on walking into their daycare, and I was like, what are you doing, guys? You stand no chance like walking on the entrance way. So I was trying to pick up these snails and moving across and I'm like, oh, you a fucking people. Look

at me. Funny, I'm moving these snaps. I know the kid's gonna stand on them. And I went into the daycare and they had a tub that snails are called into and kids are just picking the snails up and dropping. I'm like, I like yelled a little it. I was like, oh, yeah, stop, I try to teach these kids that snails are actually animals. It's like they couldn't compute. And I'm like to the teacher,

I was like, he letting the people. I told them to be gentlemen, but they're not being gentitle I'm like, how about you don't let them. I can hurt these snails, like it's just I get it, it's just a snail, but I'm like, it's a living organ. I'm like, how about you teach the kids that these are actually animals. She's like, ah yeah, I'm just like the fuck is wrong with me.

You're probably the person to put crazy frog on. But it bothered me seeing these kids just picking up these snails and just like throwing them and dropping all like, is that animals? Oh? Like I'm I can send myself a terrible softy because whenever, yeah, as you said, when the rain happens, the snails come out, and I'll have an occasion when I'm like I've gotten home and walking to my to my back door or whatever. It's God, damn the stuff, damn snails. I feel so bad. It's like

I tore his house down, Yeah, on a rainy night. Yeah, but these kids were just like picking them up and throwing them and it made me so angry. Yeah. But apparently the frog peede in Nelson's hands, so he got his come uppins. But then says that he was stealing with these grapes. But Nowson proves that he wasn't because he showed the photos that he took on his digital camera dated when we took photos on cameras. Do

you still have a digital camera flying couple in the cupboard? Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got one, and I'm like, this is such a nice piece of tech. I don't want to throw it away. You've mentioned this before, but now I'm just like, your phone does the same thing, but your phone probably doesn't. Or you got a new phone, didn't you? I did? Yeah, yeah, except I don't know how much

of an upgrade. What do you get it's another Samsung? What one though it's an A something and I probably had an S model you gone backwards? I have, but I thought I don't know. I mean, I think I was looking at the numbers rather than the letters. Okay, yeah, but something I discovered it was this doesn't wireless chart. Did you get it from the crime market? No, like got it from a man. And you want the A twenty one, not the S twenty one. I've got

a man of very nice van. You're late. I was waiting to smash this frog with you and it beeeding my hand. Sorry, I was stealing loose grapes at the grocery store. Really you call this stealing loose grapes. We were just having fun. Don't get upset, Oh right, stupid Nelson always gets upset. He'll probably do something stupid like smash his own camera. Look what you made me do? I know? Say get in here. The cat's eyes are running. I needed at durbum coming ma, see you

later, lying Trader. Something in your eye, mister mooch, Well do something in my eye? Doo ma, what happened to the curtains? I made him into a dress for a karaoke singing, Hey buck, you want some ice? Cream. I just hit a major marshmallow vad. I think it goes all the way to the bottom. No things, what's wrong? Me and Nelson were best friends and now I think he's gonna kill me. Puly problem. Hey, you know what they say, Oh, bullies are

cowards. It's not true. They're brave because they're strong. Then Lisa offers Bart mycecream. You were touched on that earlier, but he's too worried to eat. You know, he's worried about Nelson. Grandpa just brings up a random story. It's kind of like Homer's I like stories. It's just like, bullies are brave because they're strong. It's not even a really a joke.

Then no, but Nelson is now list the jokes like, oh, you know, everyone says bullies are actually cowards, but Grandpa's been a contrarian. Yeah, forget it. Nelson is now hiding in Bart's locker, and there are a couple of members in this episode where it's just like he is like that crazy X where it's like you think he's going to be angry. Then he's just like, oh but I'm really really sorry. But but it's like I can't read you crazy. Yeah, so I can't be with you.

It's going to be this much work. And when Bart caught him out for he's like, you're fucking mad man. I don't want to be your friend with anyone, like you're in the locker, but what are you doing crazy? Even like Skinner and charm has want nothing to do with it. It's best of we don't get involved. Meanwhile, Homer is crying over Gray Stash is a sign photo himself at Lisa is excited. You know, we're going to finish his book now. And you know what would how would you

feel if Gray Stash died of the day my childhood ended? And I was just like, yeah, this is sad. I feel like the Sanda thing for me. That kind of felt like when my childhood ended, when do you think your child? Can you remember a moment you just sort of realized nothing's the same anymore. I remember that that day thinking life isn't how I thought it was anymore. Because you're angry that you felt you'd be lied to,

but you just he disappointed that it's not a thing. This one wasn't a childhood thing so much, okay, more like a very very early adolescence thing, because I mean, I mean, I think I knew from an early heads like I think Mum and Dad might be Santa. It's all right, you got no problem with that. Likewise, easter budding and tooth theory,

it's all good. But I think you know, it's probably about maybe eleven or twelve, and you know, people are growing up at different rates, and you know, as we I think we said earlier, sort of the social dynam makes ever changing. It's going to like sand beneath your feet. And I think there occasions when someone that you thought was your friend would sort of like go related this episode, would go off with someone else. It's kind of like, wait a minute, well we're not friendzy, what's

going on? Yeah, my male. I was probably overreacting, but I remember thinking, oh gosh, I'm gonna have there's a bit more to this life thing that I thought there was only going to be cool and hanging out with my own what are you talking about, white male? But tends out to be one of the great joys in life, it does, indeed. Yeah. But yeah, so I just as I was touching on earlier, I just hope I just loved that Homer was just like thinking for Lisa here.

You know you in no way was being self just like they've trained us to think that I was going to do something stupid and wrong and selfish. Yes, yeah, and you're shocked when he doesn't. That's that's not a good thing. No, it's not at all. How would you feel if something bad happened to Greastash? It would be the day my childhood anger come. I read Angelica was trapped in the stuff o'clock of sandy doom. Time to choose, Graistash. If you save Angelica, you die. Where are

you stopping? Where almost at the happy ending? No book is gonna make my daughter said, Time to do what I do best, lie to a child. Gray Stash looked crumped right in the eye and said, mustache power exhibs. Oh man, I can't believe you beat me, but you did. I somehow escaped from the eye glass and now to go on living the end? Is that really how it ends? What happened to the Mollinical Council. They went to star Wars Land and fought star Wars. God, you

can read to me anytime now. Lisa won't know about death till it strikes someone close to her. God's ending is better. It was a really nice way to wrap that up, wasn't it. I think so, yeah, that's almost like the little secret she's willing. He was going along with something and she's going along with her little charade. But everyone's happier as a result. He thinks it's not a good thing. I just liked it. Now, the field trip at the tidepools, this has felt like a really random

add on. Yeah. Well they'd run out of that. They realized that hadn't gone long enough, and it's just like, ah, I guess you need to I guess we need to wrap up this storyline with Button Nelson, and maybe we need to introduce some perils. So much happened so quickly.

Yeah, so they almost drowned in the ocean, and then like oh that almos a rescue and then octopus and there's a dead diver and yeahs so basically basically they're the tire pools and Nelson picks Bart as his buddy, takeshim away from everybody else and it again, he takes him into like a cave. He's like, you're a bad friend, you know you and your like that I protected you and then but I was like no, you're fucking weird. You act all nice and you get all crazy of there's something not right there,

and he explains, I've never had a best friend before. And then all of a sudden they're nearly drowning, and as he said, the octopus, he steals a diver's yeah snork or whatever. The driver dies, octiples

then steals the snorkel. But then they pass out and they wake up, And that's like a bit of a Lord of the Rings tribute as well, when I think when at the end of the first one, if you haven't seen the first one, yeah, yeah, when Sam Wise falls out of the boat or he chases him and he's nearly drowning, and then Frodo sort of like reached then grabbs him, pulls him out. It's the first one. Yeah, at the end of the Fellowship of the Ring. Okay,

okay, you can't swim. Oh no, and then he rescues him and all that's right, yes, yes, then yeah, So basically Nelson never wake up because he never passed out, and he says, no, you're nothing to me now, you're just bafed to me. So bat then has a bit of reminiscing back in his bedroom. He grubs out the vests and says, I never forget the wheat we had we were best friends, and Nelson rides past saying, ha ha, I touched your heart and that is

the end. And it's also a bit of a brokeback mountain shout out with the picture. Yeah, yeah, the shirt hanging up and the picture is very much a brokeback mountain shout out. So okay, I don't know. Maybe that's trying to counteract some of the weak ass gay eggs that they had before that, you know, with the whole manmouth kind of deal. Yeah, but you know, this is what two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, such things were in vogue, particularly at Simson's HQ. And

then over the credits, I'm assuming we got here a deleted scene. It feels that way, doesn't it. Yeah, just being sad about Gray Stash and crying at Moe's and them saying, don't worry about it's a character, and don't you say his name is he's naming your mouth sounds like dirt, and no measould ever Outlivey's fictional wizard. So I feel like this would have been a scene that they probably put in. But it's like, if you're gonna put it in the credits, why do just put it into the actual

episode? That would make sense. Why add these deleted scenes in the credits? Just put them in where they were? I agree with you on this point. Anyway, what do we learn bomb? What you learn from the episode with the Davis that the name for a bundle of sticks is a yes? Indeed, I learned that no men should Outlivey's fictional wizard. That makes sense. Forward, your name will be all right? It's time for the

Guy Davis New Name Championship. Round eight four of this week. We have the current leader boards standing at in first position, we have Carl Molden on eight points, Luck McKay on seven points, and Philip J. Hawkins on five. Take it away. One point goes to a vested development. Ooh, that is David Mott. Well, I'm David. Is that his first points? That is not his first points? And that puts David Mott on three points? Well on David Motzki two points four the Bully Guard. He's

back. Philip J. Hawkins hawk Yes, why he is now on seven points while I'm in second position and three points goes to full Nelson. Ah, he's done it again. Look I am your leader. He is, indeed, he is the leader now outright. He's got three points there, which puts him in first position on ten points. So now he's gone from second to first. Luke McKay's on ten, Carl mahle dooing bumped down to second position on eight, and Philip J. Klawn up there on seven points

in third. What a fascinating race. I guess it's so exciting. It's very, very exciting. Indeed, when we parted the championship, just going to be a support of ours on it. Patrio, Let's get into some male bad questions, bad questions. Bail is here. Harrison mccluel says, have you guys ever been disappointed or saddened by the ending of a book, TV show or film. He believes the How I Met Your Mother ended ending was awful. Hmm. I remember being really disappointed with the ending of Sons

of Anarchy. Oh yeah, I don't want to say what happened. It was almost like a while ago, but I don't know, I ways spoil it, but basically the end the story that you were watching for ended in like the second last episode and the last one was just sort of tread like like a wrap up, and I was just like, ah, I don't care anymore. There's so many shows that that would do that, though.

I mean, I remember Game of Thrones did a bit. I mean not talking about the very very ending, but you'd watch a season and then the second last episode would usually be like the huge battle, and then the episode after that, the final episode of the season would be after math of the last battle and sort of setting the pieces for the next season. Yeah, yeah, it's like okay, yeah, it would usually be a lot more

subdued and quiet. I remember. I think they did that on a couple of other shows, maybe on Breaking Bad, certainly a mad Men, I think they did that as well. I feel bad. I don't really remember that many sort of finales that that let me down, that disappointed me. I don't I remember being at the end of season one of Your Honor, I mean, like, you can't fucking possibly end it this way. Have

you seen Your Honor? I started it but didn't finish it. Okay, we watched the second season and it was all right, but it's just like on that first season ending, going I feel so empty inside. Oh, it's just and I was angry how it ended. It's just like I don't watch it to be feeling bad. I'll tell you what. Actually, there was something about the mist oh no, oh yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I mean we talked about this when we did our movie guys think of the fog, Yeah, and how the twist at the end. I

felt really sad. I was like, oh man, I felt really sad, of course, but also kind of like there's a very traumatic incident that happens and then almost instantly, it's like something that could have resolved, yeah, renders that. Yeah, And it's like if I was making it, I would have had like a bit of a gap. I would have had him sitting in the car and like bemoaning, and then like an hour would

have gone past or something. But for it happened instantly, Like that's kind of like this is almost too much of a end of a sitcom episode, didn't it a little bit? Yeah? Yeah. I was thinking of something

that disappointed me recently. It was the Across the Spider Verse. I believe it's it's the follow up to Endo the Spider Verse, and I think I knew going in it was like, oh, yeah, this is going to be a two part but yeah it got to the end, I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, I know we're gonna have to wait a while for the for the rest, but it's like this just yeah, this felt like you've have you not learned? We don't have patience anymore? That's correct,

Yeah, we need patience and I don't have. Right. A couple more questions we have here, George of power not a question per se, Well, thank you, George, I asked for a question. But I love the subplot of this episode. My mum read me Harry Potter as a kid, and turns out was reading ahead after I fell asleep, just like Homer had. My mum and I have always bonded over the Simpsons, and so to have them put forward this story which has happened to us is always

something that I adored, Gray Stash. It is nice when things happening in your real life. For me, when I like I watched the the the Homer with the rush rushing the bedtime, I was like, this happened. But for me the most was like in March being not proud when Barke gets caught stealing right. I've said how I got caught trying to slip that Disney Adventures book into the TV guide and Mom was just like so disappointed. I was like, whenever I watched Marge being proud, I'm like, this is

what happened, as I have such a connection with that episode. Andrew jpr Man, what's the no what's your favorite fictional book series? These aren't that well known, but I enjoyed all of them. The Wicked series from the nineties, Yeah, I love those Wicked ones. Was it Paul Jennings did Wicked? I think so. Yeah. There's a writer and like named Charlie

Houston. He's written all kinds of novels and comic books and other things like that, but he did a series of novels based around this character named Joe Pitt who became he was sort of a low level, big city tough guy who got turned into a vampire and yeah sort of then worked as a freelance enforcer slash private detective in the supernatural world. And Charlie wrote like five of the Joe Pitt novels. I've read them all and I think they're really really

good. I was waiting for someone to turn them into equally cool movies or a like Netflix series. So yeah, I think it starts with one called Already Dead, and there's like five of them. That's a cool name for like an eighties I Already Dead. What would be on the cover or the poster for that Already Dead? I imagine you've got sort of a black and white image of Joe Pitt himself. I saw as being played by Colin Farrell, but it could be anyone and there's a dash of red in there or

something he's like holding a steak or something that's got blood on. Everything else is black and white, but you've got a dash of red in there. You go it? Would it be what they call it when it's like it moves? Oh yeahicular? Because someone brought up on have you been paying attention last night? The Jack Frost movie from the nineties, This is the Killer Snowman? Oh yeah? And that had a lenticular As a kid, I was like, nothing, look scary. Our timelines all out of whack because

we're recording two episodes back in the back. But as we record this, last night was Halloween, and obviously it was last week and have you been paying attention that last night? But I was over at my good buddy, Steve's big Halloween guy. And as I was opening the door to help him out and handing out trick or trick gifts, gift bags, gift bag, see gift bags, all other gift bags. Kids love a gift bag.

There was a one of those lenticular pictures behind behind me that had oh, it's a picture of an it's an old picture of a lady from like the nineteen twenties or something like that. Then you look at the other way, Ah, she's a vampire. And some of the kids who would see that go, oh my god, that's such good picture. I want to go all that. Next year, I was seeing how much enjoyment the kids were

having. I was like, it's finally happening. Halloween's happening. Yeah, well, you've got three hundred and sixty four days to do so we have indeed. Yes, all right, guys, I hope you enjoyed our review of the Whore Hoard Couple. I'm looking at the title of the next one. I feel like you're gonna enjoy it. Calld Kill Gill Volumes one and two. Oo. You like Gill, and you like kill Bill, and

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