Simpsons Shitposting (with Jack Nischler)

Hello everybody. Dando here for the latest episode of four Fingered discat Exstra. Thank you so much for joining me here this week. Today. I am very excited because I've got a very out of left field guest. But he's a man who I've been wanting to talk to you for quite some time now. He is mister Jack Nischler, and he may have sent his name on our page because we are constantly crediting him because he's putting out some of the

best Simpsons memes going around at the moment. He's just an absolute juggnau in the Simpsons ship posting world. He has his group through House Simpsons Memes Supergroup. Make sure you check out that group and join it. You can find a link for that in the description of this pod. But basically, I just wanted to talk about, you know, just his thoughts on the Simpsons ship posting community in general. We cover his creative process for creating his Simpsons

memes. We also does bando a bet our love of the show, and we talk about his earliest memories of watching the Simpsons, you know, and he actually talks about a particul a memory that I couldn't get the smile off my face because it's everything we did, you know, growing up in Australia. It's a memory that I know every Australian listener is just going to absolutely relate to and adore. So like I said, it's an absolute champion Jack.

Check out his group Thrillouse Simpsons Meme Supergroup and make sure you support him. And also, speaking of support, if you love everything we do here at Fourth Finger Discount, it would be amazing if you could support us on Patreon as well. For as little it's just a single dollar we do goes a long way to helping keeping the lights on here at the Fourth Finger Discount Network. Some of you may or may not be aware. I quit my

job last year to pursue this Simpsons podcast network. But we don't just do Simpsons here. We cover sign Pope. We were talking Signfeld speaking of the heel tales of Futurama, the one about friends going down to South Park and so much more so. If you love yourself on nostalgia, check out our podcast network. I would really appreciate that. But for now, enough spreaking. I think it's time we sit back and enjoy my conversation with the One

the Only Mister Jack Knishler. It feels like, you know, Simpsons ship posting has been going for years now, right, but you're just like this name just taking the world by storm and the shit posting world. Like, how made this happen? Man? I actually don't know, Like when I first started as well, there's no way that I would have envisioned that I've without sounding like kind of arrogant, like developed a somewhat reputation in that kind

of community. Yeah, because really it was just a hobby to start with, and then it kind of morphed into its own thing. Did you so you were making memes in Simpsons shit posting the main group and then you thought, fuck, wait a minute, I'm actually getting a lot of traction. I should make my own group. Or because did you start the thrill House one yourself? Yeah, so myself, Corona Martin and Ruby's and Eddie formulated thrill House. But honestly, when I first started it kind of it started

from the covid era has something to do while lockdown was going on. We all had to find something to do, didn't we. Oh? Man, it was crazy and like, honestly, when I look back, I'm like I was posting the most generic shit, Like it would just be I'd share an image of something that I saw and I'd posted in like obscure Simpson's characters or maybe Rancher Overlaxo. And it wasn't really a meme. It was just like, you know, someone dressed up as a Simpsons character and I'd share

that Simpsons related content. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then it just morphed into its own little thing, and I started developing kind of like I guess a nick a niche of where I'd have like this black label text and I would essentially just insert myself as a character. And then before I knew it, man, I just took off. And then I started posting in Compu Global. Yep, that was my main one. And then I developed a friendship with Karna and we got to talking and eventually formed Thrillhouse a few

years later. But really from something that started, there's just something to quell the bottom of lockdown. It's kind of crazy what it turned into. It. Are you guys sort of like competition now for Comfort Global or not? Because you're both AUSSI based, do you see this competition? I was sort of like, you know, supposed to have each other out honestly, man, Like, it's kind of weird the politics that happened with like between the

Simpsons group. This kind of crazy. This is the thing, right, I get so many I get so much shit, and I'm just I've just just accept it, right because you know, we'd take memes. I always try to give credit where I give where I can. But sometimes people a lot of the time, people to send us memes and I'm like, who made this? Like I don't know, and I'm like, fuck now, I'm going to go check the groups and try and find who made this, and sometimes I just can't find it. So I'll post up the meme and

I'm like, if you know who made this, let me know. And man, people get angry when you don't give credit for a meme. Yeah, yeah, do you know what? They get angry? Ever, as well, if you've reposted a meme like Bill say this competition, you know, like the Harrison comment, Oh yeah, or repost, I'm like, look, everything's been done at this point. Okay, you're reposting an old Simpsons clip. You realize this, right, Like, it's already a repost.

If you repost a meme like say you post a meme to one group,

there's a whole audience in another group might not have seen it. So if you post it to another group and you know, there's a couple of people that have already been members of the other group and they see it and then they're like repost, I'm like, okay, it's a whole your audience, though, Yeah, what's kind of like, you know, I've talked to people who work on The Simpsons now and I'm in season thirty five, and they'll do a story and someone's like, you already did this in season

seven. It's like it's fucking twenty years ago. No one remembers that anymore. We've done everything. Okay, it's all been done. It's like the Obscool Simpsons Characters page. I think it originally started to post obscure characters and it's been active for like three years or more maybe. So if someone posts something and it doesn't have an obscure character, someone's like, you know, in a smartest like, oh, nice obscure character. I'm like, look,

after two weeks, they're done. Yeah, Like, we don't, there's no more to post. Did you make that obscure Simpsons? Oh? No? Actually, one of the other ad means of thrill house sheey I think is one of the original ones ruby Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah, I forget it on at some point as well. What's like, what's your process for making the meme? Like, now you're going to make sure you get the black the black square or the black red ting with defined well

you always put certain things into your pictures to date. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing is like it's so such a basic format of how I make the meme. But with like the black label text, just on aesthetic alone, you can kind of tell that it's mine. That's and you sort of claim that, now, haven't you. Yeah, I'm not even like I'm claiming it. It's just like people know it if you see it, tell it's one of my memes. Sure, sure, but yeah, I mean

there's really no process involved in it. Like they're pretty low effort. There's not a whole lot involved. And because you know, you've got the two crowds that enjoy kind of like your standard Simpson's mash up where it's two scenes blended together, and it's that kind of style of the meme, like hiw he edited one, whereas mine are just like a poor Man's meme where I

just insert some kind of generic reference over a Simpson screenshot. It's almost like as a stand up routine, like you know when this happens in real life. That's what it is. Man Like I at the end of the day, the way that I post memes, it's about the human that I enjoy

it. And I like that of self referential, not taking yourself too seriously, just taking a piece really And yeah, a lot of it's just relatable content, like you know, some like just like a workplace scenario or something that happened to work, and then you insert out into a meme and people can relate to that. And I find that that generates its own audience of like the relatability of some of the content, and some people enjoy it and

some people don't. But that's like, I'm a human is subjective, right, So I appreciate the ones where it's like, you know, when I was a kid, so you always bust out the space Jam blanket and the Batman. I think the Batman Forever poster is it, Yeah, which is weird because I don't even really like that movie or much. I mean Nostage books. I was a kid, well, hell do you I'm thirty five? How do you? I'm so, I'm thirty three. We're about the

same age. So, like I was a kid and that Batman movie came out, so like I was writing the target demo for that movie, so I have like a nostalgia for it. But everyone's like, you realize that movie shit out. I'm like, I know it's shit, but you know, I still liked it because I was a kid. It's my ship.

Let me enjoy my shit. That's kind of like, you know when you talk to kids that watch the new Simpsons, and you know, people from like our age, like, oh, it's not as good as back in the day, Like, just let us enjoy the new episodes, please, because these are our episodes. It's the thing as well. I was only talking about the new Simpsons episodes the other day, and like it's not intended for us as the people that grew up with it. It's it's brought for

a new audience. Well, I can't expect. It's kind of like a selfish mentality to have the idea that the Simpsons as they started should be catering to that original audience. So when they're inserting popcorn for if I'm like watching it now some of the pop culture references, I don't know what's going on, but it's the same thing as if a new audience was watching some of the throwback episodes that we grew up on. They're like, who the fuck's Bill Clinton? Exactly? But this is the thing. I was so ad

the lit I don't know what who Lizzo is. I'm like, who right, I'm totally ad the loot now, but she was like on The Simpsons, I reckon about a month ago, what's your kind of like peak error for for me because I wasn't allowed to watch it till I was six, because I got banned from watching because I copied Maggie from treous I want and goup the knife out of the kitchen draw and my mum was like, that's it for the Simpsons. So for me, I have a nostalgia for like

season five through maybe ten. I reckon maybe five and five through seven are like my favorite seasons. I think what about you? One for me is borderline unwatchable just because it's really fine its voice and the animation. Like I'm such a I need to dig the aesthetic, so like the animation style for me that I really love is kind of like three through to ten, where it's slightly imperfect, but it's not as refined as like the high definition that

we have now. There's that one season where they've got the really big pupils. I think it's like season four. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of it's bizarre. Yeah yeah, But for me, I think, like aesthetically, my favorite season, I reckon it's probably like season like King Sid's Home at ear like season seven is. I think that's when they look at the season seven. Yeah. Yeah, I like season seven and season eight.

I really like like the aesthetic of that animation. Yeah, and also like in terms of consistently good episodes, like that was a hell of a run that went through right, Like you can pretty much put on any episode and a Tobanger. Yeah. Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein were the showrunners at that point, and you know, Bill Oakley obviously did steam Hams and yeah, yeah, I feel like those two guys like they made the best episodes.

They really like. That was Simpsons fans who somehow made their way into the Simpsons writing room and gave us the best episodes. Mm hmm. Yeah with you, so with your with your memes. So I'm just assuming you've got like a notepad of ideas and just when you find time you make the memes. Or is it just the case of you're doing your work and you're like, fuck, that's a good idea. You drop everything and you make the memes. Like how do you make the memes? You do it on a

computer on your phone? What do you do? Man, I've got like

notes in my phone. I can imagine there's just five hundred meme ideas that I put in there, and then I just categorized them into a priority of oh, this is probably a good one, so it's like top memes, and then I'll be like, man, there's times when I'm laying in bed trying to go to sleep and I've just got like ideas churning, and then I have to reach over to my phone and be, oh, I put that in and then I'll think about that the next day and then build on

that. Yeah, And don't you love it when you pull your phone out? We can't do that as well with certain things. I feel like you're most creative when you're about to go to sleep, and I love it when you wake up next day and you're like, oh, man, I totally wuld have forgotten about that idea, but think I put it in my phone for sure, because I definitely haven't done it before. I've forgotten to put it in and it's just gone into the EGI yeah, and you know there's

something then and you're like, what was it? Oh, it's weird, man, because with the memes as well, like sometimes I'll be like, this is going to be a banger and it's like, you know, moderate likes at best, and then there's like a throwaway one that I spent thirty seconds on and it's a thousand likes. So it's like there's really no gauge on what's going to go well or what gets picked up in the algorithm. Either that's the thing, it's the algorithm who they push it to. It's

so fucking weird. Now the algorithm you've got to really you can't work it out anymore. And anything, I think it's just a lucky dip these days.

Well, I used to feel like it was like time of day dependent as well, Like I would post it would be like because I used to have a thing because I've got a lot of OCD qualities, so there was a point where I was religious, Yeah, for sure, religiously posting once in the morning and once in the evening, so I do two a day, and I felt like that turned ten thirty time frame and then like you know, a four thirty five o'clock timeframe seemed to generate the most activity on

the post. Whereas I have no idea if that's legit, It just it was what it was. I used to sort of have the mentality of when I was posting things up are most of our followers and at the time it was Australian. Now that sort of all around the world. It doesn't really make a difference. But I'm like, when are Australians knocking off work when they're going to be most likely to be on their phones. That's when I's

sort of pick in my mind. So it was usually like seven thirty people just finished in and they've got their phones out fucking around watching TV or whatever, and I feel like seven thirtysu to be a good time for posting meanings. But now you just can't pick. It's just whatever. Yeah, especially like with the Australian group that I was posting in for a long time, that's easier to predict because it's primarily an Australian audience see yeah, yeah,

whereas now with like Thriller House and even Bought Posting, it's worldwide. Like Bought Posting's got I think they just broke over three hundred thousand followers or so they're from just everywhere. Man. Yeah, so yeah, there's really no gauge on target audience. You just post when you post and see if it takes off. I find memes now that get the most reach organically, very very very rarely boost the post. Might be a link for one of our

podcasts, that's the any thing. I'll never boost a meme. But I feel like the ones where you've got to click into it to see the full picture seem to get more organic reach because it thinks that people are engaging because they're clicking into the photo to see the full thing. It's like a three panel meme. They generally do better than one you can see the whole image without having to click into it to see the bottom, like the screenshot.

That's interesting because I used to feel kind of converse to that, where if it was like a multipanel meme, because I've done I remember only a couple of times because they actually take a fair bit of effort. But I've done like super meta memes where it's like fifty plus panels and it's pretty much about the group itself and group members within that group, like personalities at like regular posters, and they take a shitler effort and they get a bit of traction.

And then if it's like a four panel meme, I feel like people are less inclined to click on that as opposed to a single one or a double one where it requires no clicks, which is like it kind of highlights the laziness of just the average person. It's like, can't be fuck clicking

on a panel to see how many are there. The best thing is, I think, is when you can see there's a third panel, Like people post memes, but like you have to actually say there's three panels, because they've made the positioned to see if you can see like the top bit of the third panel makes people go, well, what is that? What is that? And then they'll the curiosity gets the best of them. They're like, Okay, let's see the punchline. Yeah, but what was your first

ship post? Can you remember? Oh man, probably something super whack in hindsight, like something real shitty. I actually don't remember what it was. It was nervous posting it, were you sort of like, oh, man, what if no one likes it? Nah? Not because I didn't even have an idea of how it worked. It was just like I didn't give a shit about how many likes it was going to generate. You just posted

out of boredom. And then I know, for me personally, it became like you're chasing that dopamine of like the validation of people liking the post, especially the more popular they get, and if you're consistently getting a lot of likes on a post, it becomes addictive, man, it really does. You end up chasing that kind of fucking dopamine here, like, oh, let me get that high of people like my shit, people enjoying my content.

But then at the same time, there's a fair bit of anxiety involved with it, which sounds ridiculous because they're just means yeah, but like some of them can be quite I guess contentious, and you get people just really get in in their feelings and letting you know exactly what they think about something, And I kind of feel like that's something to do with the anonymous nature of the Internet, where it allows people to speak in a way that they

wouldn't speak if it was your and iron person. You kind of like that road rage mentality where if someone cuts them off in traffic, they're freaking the fuck out and they're this out and the third. But if someone stepped in front of them in line of the supermarket, they're not going to say shit. It's going to wish that they could have said something and then be like,

dang, I should have said that. If someone steps out of the car, then they quickly turned the car around and drop the other direction. Yeah, exactly exactly. So it's it's it's very Yeah, it's weird.

The audience you can get on certain means it's good. I'm gonna be very careful with the ones that I post because we try to keep it like we try to be like the You've got rock Bottom in all those other pages and they dropped the sea bomber light and we're I just like we try to be like the family friendly ish version of like as Simpson Ship posting, because it's

essentially it's the podcast page, but we're posting memes. You try to keep it family friendly because we have a lot of sort of like connections with the actual show, and I'm like, they're not going to want to be associating with me if I'm putting memes up with the sea bomb or to bias memes

mostly dropped the Sea Bomb and stuff like that. And I know, not that I'm against that kind of stuff, it's just we've got to keep our image a little bit more squeaky clean than those of like rock Bottom of those kind of things. Not on pals of all those guys that run those pages, because they're way more popular than we are. But yeah, I just I just found it very interesting that, you know, just how crazy ship postings has got to this point where people, I don't know, it's almost

just become like a job for people. It's it's such a community now, isn't it. Yeah, I mean, and depending on the group, it can be such a fun vibe. It's like a virtual hanging. Because that's how I feel we've been able to cultivate. The whole idea with Thrillhouse was that we wanted to take essentially everything that we thought was wrong with other groups.

Because there's pros and cons to eage group. What are they wrongs, do you think If you yes, I don't want to go for me like if I'm taking my own biases out of it if I look at it. Some groups get so political to where three out of four posts are politics based,

and that's where you're run into the most contention with comments. We avoid politics like the plague mate, Oh you got it, man, because like it's such a hot issue, especially now with what's going on in the world, it's really really hard to like, at the end of the day for me memes that are meant to essentially just be for me personally and escape from all the extra bullshit, Like I just want to crack a smile and have

a laugh. I don't want to open up Facebook and see what's going on with like Palastine and Iran plastered over a Simpsons thing where it's like, this isn't to do with the Simpsons, Like, take your own shit and talk about it somewhere else. So I wanted to take the things that, like the negative components that I find with other groups, eliminate that, but also buy a space where you can have you know, slightly spicier content, slightly

edgier jokes to where it's not completely you know, g rated content. It's not just offensive for the second being offensive either exactly, because that's also like cringy, like if someone's just we we get an occasion we're in the group where someone's just thinks it's a spicy content, but it's not. You're just inserting a shitty opinion under the guise of a Simpson's name, And so we

put the squash on that quickly. But we want to allow people freedom to post what they like, obviously within reason, because some groups want to you know, squeaky claim. Some groups go the other side where they get dark and then the group gets completely sucked. And we just wanted the middle ground where people are free to express opinion, have difference of opinions, but avoid just the heavy politics that seem to burn down a lot of other groups.

Yeah, do you find you have the same regular posters in your group? It's funny, man, because each post kind of ends up having like it's it's I even know how you articulate it. You get like your top ten kind of prevalent posters within that group, Like their are the sort of personalities within the group, so you get your standout characters. Has anyone tried to copy your your your gimmick of the your gimmick, but you know your style of the black with the white font. Has anyone tried to copy that?

Or as everyone go, oh, that's Jack's, then we better not. There's no one that I would ever, There's no one that I would point out as being like, oh, they've intentionally started doing this. There's definitely been a couple where you can tell, especially with the self referential nature, because mind are very like the classic style of the meme that I'll post is generally two panels and the first one will be me, etcetera, etcetera, bottom panel me, etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, so when I see that,

it can be like an homage to maybe something that I did. But at the end of the day, I don't stay claim to any mean like, you can post whatever you want if you take inspiration from that, so be it. Like I. Some people get really jealous or like very possessive of the style of meme that they post, and then if they see someone else try to mimic that, they're like, no, that's my ship. What the fuck that means? Man, don't there's Simpsons at the end of

the day too. We don't own any of it. Yeah, so you're free to post whatever you like. Well, so many people from like three House were starting to like invade all my posts just running credit Jackniche and I was like, oh h to the point where like I haven't posted one of your means for like a week. As a result, I'm like, oh man, I'm just like even when I wasn't posting your memes, I was just posting credit. It's like twenty comments credit Jacknishline. I was like,

oh guys, leave me alone. I'm a nice guy. There's also like a bit of tongue and cheek in like the four finger Dissed Town, you know what I mean. It's like if you look at it at face go too. It's like, yeah, we kind of yoink memes like credit where it's due, but at the end of the day, it's not like we've fucking stole the mona Lisa. It's a meme. Well, we always try to give credit where we can. But man, so many people I've had

death threats. I remember one guy I generally said, if you you don't give credit to my meme, I'm gonna come with you along and like you just went to town. I was like, I just I wrote you looked in the comments, I said, who made this? Now that I know it's you, I'll put your credit in there and you back, Oh, no worries, mate, Yeah thanks. So I sorry. I got a bit over the top. But I just get real like defensive when people just pinch my memes. I'm like, chill out, dude, do you get

what kind of the like inboxes do you get? Do you get some crazy inboxes? We just get people. People send memes through and their ship house, and they get really offended if I don't post them like I'll like sometimes I'll just like react to it and with a laughing faces they have they say, yep, I acknowledged that I've seen your meme. But I can't post everything, right. I'm very very picky with what I post up. Right,

They've got to I'm gonna be able to. I know what my audience likes, and some of the memes that come through and it's like this isn't very good, but I still say, oh, yeah, great work, blah blah blah, And like three days later I'll say, so you're gonna post it, I'll go, oh, maybe we'll see how I've got a little bit of a backlog. Well why are you posting it? I'm like, oh god, block gone. I can't deal with this, you know

what I mean. But we get now because the page has sort of gone a bit more popular lately, we're getting so many like hello admin, can we post on your page? All these fucking fake accounts, which is hard to sort of filter between the real accounts and the fake ones these days. Yeah, that I was not surprising. We like, I never would have envisioned the amount of widows that I've had in my my I don't want to say weirdos, but you said no, like honestly, well without being like

an asshole about it. Like sometimes some people will post some really heinous content, give them a warning, be like remove the post, that's fine, and then you know they continue to do it, and you pretty much you can tell when it's a troll account, it's a fake profile and they're posting things with the anonymity of the Internet, and then you you remove that poster from the group, and then you just met with the most hillacious dms from

these people just going in on you. Like some of the not even DM sometimes like some of the comments that I get on some of my posts because I reference my wife a lot in them. Yeah, obviously some of the because of the self referential nature and how I insert myself in the means it leads me open for probably a lot more criticism than like the Simpson style mash up posts, because they can attack my personality because it's put on showing the

meme. Could you say it's me me? Yeah? Yeah. But also it's satire, like when I'm talking about like nutting in six punts, it's not necessarily you know, the actual truth of what's going on. It's satire. But I'll have people be like, oh, I feel so for your life. Like the other day someone commented They're like, I hope you get cheated on, And I literally had to laugh out loud and show my life because it was just so unnecessarily harsh. What's crazy is that people writing this

too are like serious, that's the scary thing. What's going on in your life? This upset over a mean man? How many do you take down? How often do you have to take one down posts? Yeah, in like in the group when it's just like many man like at the moment with what's going on. We've had to take down a few because they're quite politically driven, and we didn't want to a group to kind of turn into whatevery other group does. So we had to run one of those topics where you

just like it's best to leave it to other people. Not this for sure, for sure, And it's such a contentious topic that, I mean, no one's going to have the answer, like, no one's going to come to a mutual understanding on what's going on. So and they just escalate so quick and then before you know it, you're getting so many posts being reported, and you know what you're seeing like in mean groups where a trend continues for a while and it kind of just beats a dead horse. That's what

I was going to ask you about that later on. Yeah, about the trends, Like do you sort of look at trends or do you sort of just think because you your thing is just relating to something's happened in your real life, sort of associated with your real life, So you don't really follow like the trends of the memes, do you, Because you've got to like Boat It's like yeah, because in the boat posting is like you know it was the leaves. Recently everyone was doing leaves and I was like, yeah,

like that was like so popular for like four days. I reckon, I don't even know how they start, Like where did Kevin James one come from? So the Kevin James won started because it became its own thing outside of ship posting. Then they sort of moved it into ship posting. But yeah, I don't know how that exploded. It was just like that image has been online for so long and people have just decided now it's kind of steamed hams, like steam hams. When I was a kid, I didn't

even find it all that funny. And then when we got like you know, when we got hold like twenty five thirty, it's like it just became like the meme of all memes, and I'm like, how, I mean, who just decided steamed hams was the meaning of all memes? Well, the minute and there's a trend of the hidden panel oh yeah in the comment one. I don't I don't find that style like personally, again, it's

subjective. I don't find that style that main funny, but it goes on for so long, and then that's what we just try to avoid in the group. Like, you know, it's fine if you get in on a trend, but you don't want to be looking through a timeline and you've got twenty of the exact same joke in a row. Yeah. I try to avoid the trend ones and just try to look at ones that is not timeless, but go that anyone can relate to this, Even if you're not a

Simpsons fan, you can probably relate to it. Yeah. Yeah, well that's just I just don't get in on the trend one because generally, like the trend style memes aren't in my wheelhouse of how I mean anyway, so I wouldn't be able to do a relatively good justice to one. I'll leave that for the other people who actually are good at that stuff. Do you have a favorite of yours? A favorite meme? Yeah, that you've made? You Do you have one that you didn't think was going to be that

poppy and you're like, shit, people really like this one. Yeah. There's definitely been a couple of them, but none that I can really think of. Is I remember the one that went really well when we put it up. People loved it was the one where you're like sneaking out to get drunk when you're fifteen and then Malloy twiggling his mustag. Yeah, yeah,

sneaking out to go back home. Now that was a pisser. Well, it's also funny some of the ones that there was one that you guys shared as well, where it was a lady talking about, you know, send him home in it Ober fed him blah blah blah. Yeah, they got a shitload of shares. That was one where that was a throwaway like that

took what a minute to put together and then that takes off. So just like you really don't know what's going to hear and what's going to miss the way I gauge now because my wife she was never a Simpsons fan growing up. She's from the UK, like it was big in the UK, but she just never really watched it. She was from the but they call the country in the UK the equivalent of country in the UK. They didn't watch

much TV or anything. But what I do now is I'll show her and mean before I post it, and if she reacts to it, I know, well Simpsons fans are going to like this because I liked it, and of a nonsense since fan likes it as well, there's probably gonna do really well. So that's sort of how I gauge now what I think a post is going to do well before I put it up, Like a meme is

show my wife and she finds it funny, then that's the thing. And that's what I did with the sneaking out for a drink because like I think, you know, everyone who's in their mid thirties now can totally relate to

that meme. Yeah, I feel like that's where a lot of my memes are going towards as well, just like crossing that thirty threshold and then suddenly it becomes a lot more like relatable content of things that you used to be able to do maybe in your youth that slightly start to deteriorate as you age. I mean, people love the memes where it's always like you know, it's happened to you, and people always sort of those memes always do really

really well well. I just I'm a sucker fan of the nostalgia as well. So any of what's my whole podcast network is MAT's all the stuff exactly Like if anyone puts in some you know, when you see something, you're like, man, I forgot all about that, and it like takes you back to a time period. And that's what I enjoy about the memes, Like, that's what I enjoy about seeing any kind of stagia references takes you back to it such a comforting time in your life. That's why I think

that's why we just love the Simpsons so much. It's just like you know, it was, It's just been there our entire lives. Like you're thirty three, the Simpsons has always been around. You know, well what I'm sure introduction to it? Do you remember, well, I know how I said earlier, how I sort of apparently I saw the Simpsons Trioso one We're making it to the Knife out of the Draw, the Bad dream House. And I don't remember that at all. I was too young. I was

like two or three. Someone was like, you can't watch the Simpsons to your six. But my earliest memories is going to like video easy and seeing like remember those I've got them in here? The I go go one, hey, one second, I'll show you might be able to remember these? Yeah, do you remember these videotapes? Be able to run from the shop

for sure? Man? Yeah, the white cover Simpsons collection one so they were like, yeah, first time I remember seeing the Simpsons, like they look cool, and I were like renting one and I didn't realize i'd rented one. And it's like it was a huge deal that I was allowed to watch the Simpsons. But that's my earliest memory of the Simpsons as seeing the videotapes at Video Easy. What about you? Oh man, I don't remember, like I can't pinpoint a specific memory. It's just six PM, week

night, Channel ten mate. That was. That was the memory. I know. We had like a bunch of vhs just recorded off the TV, just episodes recorded off the TV. Are they're the best. I've still got a couple of mine and it's like, you know, you got something still got the ads in it and stuff. It's just so nostalgic. Just do you know what I would give to have some of the throwback episodes just to watch the ads alone, not even for the Simpsons episodes, but to watch

the ads. Yeah, oh man, I'd give anything for that, the ads in between all the ads of the Simpsons though. Do you mean just the ads in between? No, just the ads just like the generic throwback like Australia ads. I do it all the time you go on YouTube, you type like nineteen ninety five Australian commercials and it's just like you with it, Like the commercials like pick apart, pick Apart, rehober that and things like that. Man, do you remember how sick the yoga commercials were?

Holy shit? Man? Yeah, like just mini episodes they were. It was like the big bang thing was just like clips and the machine all together. It's an actual fucking movie. Like I'll get back to your barrying things like that. Yeah, that was sick. Yeah, someone needs to make a Yogo based Simpsons me. I think that's one. Think that's one of your ideas need to work on. I could tap into that for sure. Yeah, because those kind of things people just that you see it and you're

like, holy shit, that was my childhood. You know. Well. The other thing about those tapes too, is I remember going to kmart. Do you remember how they'd have kind of the theme tapes were too hot for TV or I've got them all behind me here. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So it was like four episodes per tape and they were like twenty five bucks for a VHS that came out thirty dollars. Yeah, I've still got the price tag on my on my VHS. We paid thirty bucks for four episodes,

mate. For That's the thing, though, man, is that no wonder you remember this shit verbatim? Because four episodes for twenty five thirty dollars you're watching the funk out of there, like you're spamming that. I said to like people who didn't grow up in our ear. It's just like when your mom bought you a fucking videotape. You had four tapes and that was your summer, and you watch those same fucking movies over and over again.

Do you know what's so funny? Man? It's like the shot Like the shows of my childhood were kind of of the Simpsons, Seinfeld, South Park, Malcolm in the Middle, and Friends and people. Friends just kind of treated like a punchline. Now it's kind of like the nickelback of TV shows where it's like, oh, yeah, it's funnier than Friends, blah blah blah. I was like that right until I started doing the podcast with my wife and I was like, fuck, that's right. I used to really

liked this show. Why was I shitting on it? It's like I just became a sheep? Ah, man, it's like, look, I don't know how i'd go watching it as a first time viewer through the lens of a thirty three year old, but nostalgia defeats everything, and I grew up on it, Like Jennifer Anistill was like my first crash. I remember from what she was like with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I remember like having a dream that they adopted me. That's how much I just wanted to be involved.

And then I remember, like, I had this this notebook, and I had a stick figure drawing of me and her holding hands and I cut out of her head and I'm like, you know, it sounds romantic and sweet, but if I saw that image now of like her cut out head, I'm like, this is impossibly creepy to look at. Imagine if you told her that story in person, she'd be backing through the hedges. Mate, Yeah, with shit Homer disappearing. Yeah, there's no why, There's

no way I would do that. But see Friends for my wife is what the Simpsons, I say, was for me. So like my wife, she puts Friends on every day. She just watches it on loop from start to finish and goes back to the start, right it's just it's her comfort food, comfort to me. Right. I found since I started doing the podcast, I don't watch The Simpsons anywhere as much as I used to.

Like the Simpsons just used to always be on in my house. When I went to bed, I'd put the commentaries on the dvna's it was just always Simpson, Simpsons, Simpsons found Sins. I did the podcast, it almost feels like it's become work for me. But it's like I try to dissociate from the show now because it's I see there's a bit of work, and that's sad because I've got like a five year old and a two year old.

But what I've started doing now is I've started introducing them to the show, to the point where they're now saying, can I watch the Simpsons. I'm like, oh, the world's all good again, you know. Well, that's almost like why like New Simpsons Cops all the ship it does. But I was only talking to my wife yesterday about how I wanted to go for as long as I'm alive, because I feel like the day that they end, it will be such a bittersweet moment for me, just knowing that

it's still continuing is like special to me. I don't want it to ever end. I don't care how much it diminishes in quality. I don't want it to ever stop. I like knowing that it's there. Everyone's the same way, everyone in our age is just like, even if you might not watch the show as often as you did, just know it's kind of like you know your grandma or yeah, yeah, and uncle that you don't see

it that often. You know it might only seem at Christmas time, but just knowing that he's going to be there at Christmas time makes you happy, sure, for sure. So yeah, I also hope they never go. I do feel like eventually they might just transition to being maybe like a Disney Plus exclusive show or something. I don't know. At this point, I don't even know how it ended. It'll never be. It never be considered

a good ending, like you've never ended What's are though. It's such a rare It's like you're chasing something that's so impossible to achieve when like you've been on a series for as long as that. I don't know how he'd ever come up with an ending that's going to satisfy and be unanimously praised. I don't mind Al Jean's idea that he put out several years ago now where it was like it'll end with them going to watch the school play at Christmas time.

So basically the show just becomes a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's probably the best way, right, because they're stuck in a time of anyway. Yeah, and it's the other I like a little bit off track, but you know how there's that real elitist view of season two to nine. That's all I watch season two Golden era. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean if you're not watching season ten to

even twenty, you're missing out on so much good content. Like season ten alone, for me is still peak Simpsons, but even twenty through to thirty, they're still like even bad Simpsons is better than a lot of new content. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, compared to some of the ship that's out there. Yeah, it's still enjoyable. The only problem that I like, the only thing that I slightly struggled with with new New Simpsons, it's just some of the voices. Yeah, like March it's becoming man,

Julie Cavra, it's rough. Nicholas, my wife, she's like, when did they replace Marge. I'm like, they haven't. Yeah, I don't know. What is your wife? Is she a big Simpsons fan? Like, how does she feel about being part of your memes? She, I wouldn't say a big Simpsons fan. She definitely enjoys the Simpsons. She's a dragon ball Z fan. Okay, to this day, I haven't seen on an episode of dragon ball Z, so that's her thing. I'm kind of

similar. Even though I was the guy that helped launch the Cheese TV facebook page, I used to love Cheese TV, so like i'd see it on, but I just never got into dragon ball I collected the little discs that used to get in the Smith chips, but I never actually watched the show. Say with Pokemon, I never really got into like the whole anime thing. But I was a cheese TV kid growing up, so like this is about this is twenty sixteen. I had on on a podcast, Ryan,

because you would watch chea TV right back in the day. Sure, sure, sure, yeah. I had Ryan on and I was like, uh, what it sucks that you can't watch the old episodes and He's like, oh, I own pretty much every episode on VHS, just a production tape and I was like, excuse me, and he goes, yeah, yeah, they just all my back shehd. I'm like, what do you mean. He goes, yeah, I've got about five hundred tapes out there, and I'm like, send them to me and let's monetize this. Birs.

We did that and then yeah, it was just like hearing that cheese TV theme music. Like you said earlier, it just takes you back sometimes, like you think of old TV shows, You're like, I love that show, when really you love the theme music that's what you love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Man. There's like even now there's some remember like funny Bones mm hmm, her friends shipped the Shore. That intro slaps that ship. The short intro goes harder than it has any right to

know. I never write what about bad? I remember Babba the Elephant of course. Yeah, that's like I put it on the other day and I was like, oh my heart. Yeah, like some times I'll just go down a rabbit hole just watching the intros to certain shows from my childhood, and you just just smile the whole time, don't you. For sure, Yeah it's the best, and that's what the Simpsons does. It just makes you smile because it reminds you of being a kid, being like eight.

No, Thursday afternoon, six pm. Your parents are watching the news. You're in the other room watching the Simpsons. Funnily enough, man, I was saying about, like one of the shows in my childhood was south Park. To this day, I have a memory of I had never wanted to

see something as much as I wanted to see the south Park movie. But I was ten when it came out, ye, and it was in the theaters the same time as Star Wars episode one, and so my dad and my brother went and saw south Park and you did the swift Yeah, no,

no, I had to go see Star Wars. My loss is kind of cool, like, you know, like Darth Maul's got his double savings kind So I saw that a few times, but like it eventually turned into wearing my dad down until we eventually broke and let me see the movie because it was just every day, relentless. I need to see the south Park movie movie. Legit, Man, just worring down. I just watched the thing. I wasn't allowed to watch it. I wasn't en suposed watch South

Bike. I used to have to, like had a TV in my room, so like nine to thirty Monday nights, I am I'm watching Channel seven, SBS, SBS turned Man at a certain time of night too, like you don't know what's going to come on? Erotic Tails, mate, Yeah, Erotic Tails and Champagne Comedy. They were like the two things that I

remember well. Champagn Comedy on Channel thirty one that was like a local Victorian station where it was just like up and coming comedians, which are always terrible, but I remember like it was like we'd have Win Southern Cross, ABC and SBS, and then it was like it was like the gab scene Gabble Gabbo where it was like channel ten's coming, we have we have fuck olwen Ober. So we would get like the idea of a fifth channel was crazy when we need the channel? When did you get ten? I thought,

I just assumed we always had. It was no, no, no, no no. I was like fourteen, and we had to go buy a set top box to install into the TV so you could get the additional channel. And then ten came on and that's when we really got the Simpsons because I had a couple like my childhood best friend he had Oz star in his room, which was like a game changer. So you stayed there on the weekends and you'd have your Fox Simpsons marathons from like nine to midday, nine

to twelve. Super Simpsons weekends was like the highlight of my childhood. It was altimate, man, just like we used to his laying bed. His mum would bring us just an infinite loop of vegimiteites and we just spammed the symptoms. It was the best. That's like the most ouzzy thing ever, like vegemite toes and just spamming The Simpsons every weekend as a mess. So yeah, I lived for that. So yeah it was great. Well, man, I know it's been fun chatting to you. I know you've got

work to do, so better let you go. But before we go, I've honest that the new thing I sent you the question? Right, did you get the question about the marathon? So I'll ask the question like like you didn't know, all right, So you don't know this question. So it's nineteen ninety eight, you've been giving control of Channel ten. You've actually got Channel ten now in Tasmania, and it's Friday night and you're going to

put together a five episodes Simpsons marathon. What are you putting on? I had to actually my OCD brain struggled with this, so I'll preface it with My favorite episode of all time is probably the Homer They Fall where he fights Tradaic Tatum. Well you're a boxing coach now, right, So it was like encompassed everything I liked about The Simpsons. It's season eight, my favorite animation, the boxing content. Traderic Tatum is my Instagram handle. I have

kid presampable tatooed on me. Really, yeah, where is it? It's on my calf, so it's a bit hard anyway. Yeah, okay, yeah, but that's one of the best of all And finally a kid bo Yeah exactly. Man and my wife had like this custom art made for me where it's me ring side watching home and get destroyed next to Abe. And so that's my favorite episode of all time. The why Can't We Be Friends? It is one of my favorite Simpsons gags of all time. Oh yeah,

the walkout. Yeah, it's just unbelievable, so good. It's so good. But I'd have to put cape fear because I feel like you got to have like a side show Bob episode. That's the iconic one Home of the Great and that kind of encompasses like it's got a musical compartment in it. Yep. I think who shot mister Burns? Part one and two has to be together. And I think, honestly, Man, that is such a fantastic that could have been a movie. It felt like a movie.

Yeah, I'm too young to remember the mystery of like the Cliffhanger. I'm too young. I lived at Man. One of my earliest, one of my favorite memories is my sister and I sitting there with a notepad in my because my parents were watching something and I remember like part two was coming up, so we were going to find out who did it. And we spent like all the time in between trying to work out who did it. We

had our little notepads. We spent over the summer or whatever it was winter trying to work out who did it, and rem my parents' room because I was watching something in the living room. I was sitting there was so excited. I thought it was Smithers. I was. I was certain it was Smithers, even though that was obviously never going to be Smithers. But I remember sitting there and the genuine excitement and anticipation. It's hard to describe how

exciting it was. It was just like a major event of your childhood. Did you have any idea that it would have been Maggie? No one had any idea. No one did. Apparently they've said that there was like one guy in like the forums, because the Simpsons showrunners and the writers used to bruise all the forums online back when internet was in its early days, and there was one guy who said, I reckon it was Maggie and they could never find out who it was. And still to this day they've never found

out who it was. But only one person ever genuinely guessed Maggie and put it in a public forum. No one else guessed it carec You remember the there's a pretty famous imagery of the odds that's fake. I knew it was going to be fake. Yeah, anything that cool is going to be fake. I mean it's nice to imagine, though, isn't it. It's just like, yeah, apparently that's all fake. Yeah, well shit, forget

that then. But that's that's what it felt like though, Like it was so it was such a big event for kids that you would believe that that was genuinely happening because the Simpsons were huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's such a great Part one and part two. Springfield Files is my favorite. And I'm not even the biggest X Files mark but the crossover is so well done. It's in my top five of all time.

I'm a big sci fi fan. So okay, well man, you know when Homer steps off the bus and a violin orchestra is playing, Yeah, I was like the most terrified child. I was scared of everything, and I remember that scared me. I was like, oh, it was kind of creepy. Component in that episode is in the woods have creepy violin that X Files music signifies be scared when you were a child. That's like in terms of generating a feel, that's one of the best intro songs,

like the perfectly captured the vibe of the show. The X Files music is so good. You know when you go like skip credits, you never skip credits for the X Files team Nah nah for sure, or shipped the shore or I was going to say you need a Threehouse of Horror one. I was going to say probably three House Horror six. I really like the Groundscaper

Willie Freddy Krueger concept. That was the first new Simpsons I was ever allowed to watch after the band ended, And I remember being so excited mentioned this last week's show because we did like the most gruesome deathcoltry House of Horror. But I remember sitting there. I remember like Homer three D right and now advertising a channel of ten, like The Simpsons will be in three D this

week. So here's like fucking seven year old me sitting there with my red and blue glasses on before the show starts, thinking it was going to be in three D. But that's not what they meant. But you know, like in the nineties, three D meant red and blue glasses. Yeah, yeah, for sure, man, I was going to say that, But I feel like i'd put in probably twenty two the twenty two short films. That's my favorite episode of all time because just think it just signifies Springfield as

a whole, doesn't it. It just shows you a real insight into the Springfield community. It captures everything too. It's the most quotable. Every single segment of that is a meme in itself, like the most iconic episode in terms of what it produced. But the Steamed Hands alone is the same thing pulp fiction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that being one of my favorite movies makes it even better. Yeah. As a kid, though I had never seen pop fictions, I was like, I don't know what's going

on here. It's funny, but I don't get it. And then when you get older, you're like, oh shit, this is awesome, funny man, because we only we just sat through Twin Peaks and so I'd never seen that. And then when it's like the yeah, I never understood that referenced but now again, especially where he's like, brilliant, I have no idea what's going on. That's how I felt pretty much to the entire duration, so very relatable content. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So is

that your marathon set? That would be my marathon. Yeah, that'd be a pretty good marathon. Yeah. There was something about, like it's hard to describe to a kid now the idea of a marathon and how exciting it was. You know, you're at school, You're like, oh, it's gonna be a Simpsons marathon tonight. I can't wait. Like, you get your videotap, you put it on long plays so you can take longer. You know, you fit all the episodes on the one vhah. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Marathons, they're just they're a dying breed, now, aren't they. All the people do people's binge watching now binge watches like the modern day marathon. Well, that's how I feel about video stores. Man. The nothing was more exciting as a young teenager going to the video store selecting your perfect five or six movies and then coming home and just like knowing

that You've got this sick lineup of movies waiting for you. But like as much as I'm nostalgic for it, you still wouldn't want to go back to that with the accessibility that we have now. Yeah, it's I mean, if they opened up a video store now, I'd probably go there, like occasionally, just for the nostalgia factor, you know, with people that still watch the vhs like they would just like they've gone on blue ray, but

for the nosnaalgia, they'll watch it on VHS. I'm not I do that very sometimes, maybe once or twice a year, because I've got like the old VH. I've got like Jaws on VHS and like Dressy Park and stuff, and I've got the old box television cause I've got like my old like Nintendo Serpa and stuff like Duck Hunt, and they work best with the old school TV. So that's why I've got the old school TV. So I'm like, and you put it on, you like, how the fuck did

I ever think this was like good quality? It's like, is it rough? I haven't seen vhas quality in forever, man, So is it a rock? I mean it's it's not great. And like the TV loud the Big Box. Turn it on. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just you can like you put the TV on it and it's almost like you can feel that it's on in the room. You can feel the radiation in the room. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, but a good time. But yeah, thank you again, man, I do appreciate you

coming on to the show and chat some Simpsons ship posting. Well, I was going to say, if anyone needs good admins in Simpsons group, lookout for Sorker, Ryan at Bought posting, She's Rad's Karna, Martin and Rubys and Eddie at thrill House or me. They're the best. They're the best ones looking for those ones, they're the best. Well yeah, taking my own bias, they're the best. And can you can you give us before you go. Give us a tease of an upcoming meme that you're excited for,

that you've got an idea. I know you planted that yoga idea into my brain now, so maybe the yoga one I work credit for that one. Yeah for sure. Yeah, we'll figure thiscout