Million Dollar Abie (S17E16)

Have a dollar same to you. I'll take our notes. Bulls Grampa, no grum pass. If the bull dice, the crowd goes wild. If grumpa dice, the crowd goes wild. Either way, we make a fortune on souvenir sun snacks. Can we bring outside food? Not even gum? Four finger discount dude, Welcome to four figure Discount, the podcast where we all have meltmania. This week we are Hitter review episode jb F zero nine. It is million dollars ab I am edo, I am guy and hmm,

what to say about this episode? Well, I was trying to be enthusiastic because no, this episode was morbid and sad and depressing. I watched this episode and I watched it twice, as I usually do. The first time I watched it, I was like, yeah, Grandpa episode, it's a story, blah blah blah. And I rewatched it and I was like, doesn't really make a whole lot of sense the story and the topic that

you've got. You haven't really handed it very well. You know, the issue of euthanasia should mean more than just be sort of like a subplot for what eventually becomes Grandpa becoming mad at all. This is so weird and sad and depressing, and I've got here. Grandpa tries to kill himself because nobody apparently loves him. Right then we see him kill or when it seemed, but he kills the ball. When that happened, I was like, wait, he actually killed the bull. I could not believe it. I was

like, what, Yeah. I think we've been trained by particular TV shows and movies or whatever. When you have a moment like that and someone goes, oh, yeah, makes the big stamp thinking about it, does the does the shot or whatever, it's usually like I could have killed you, but it didn't, you know, because I'm the better man, or because I've learned the lesson or something. I was like, Oh, no,

actually happened. Kill that killed that ball? M Yeah. Tackling topics like euthan asia or a sister dying or and animal cruelty, I mean, and blood sports and things like, it's like, I think you need to think it through a lot more and I think you need to handle a lot more sensitively than you did in this particular episode. I keep going back when I think of when I think a Grandpa Simpson, when I think of Abe Simpson

an episode sort of arounding him. I mean, the one that always leaves to mind is no, we've talked about the last and I keep remember getting the actual tie of the episode, the one that ends with him getting the inheritance and refurbishing the Springfield retirement Castle, so it's a decent place for elderly people to see out their days and live there last years with that great final line of bad dignities on me And I mean, that's a sad episode,

but it's also quite touching and it touches on some important issues, but it also has its share of gags in there as well. It shows that it's not impossible for a series like this to handle issues like those very very well, and this episode sort of does in the opposite of that. It's just not good at all. It's just what's disappointing for me is that it is such a serious issue that could have been if it was handled correctly, explored

properly, it wouldn't have felt so annoying. But it's just this this topic of yourthanations sort of part of this mess of an episode, Like, for example, had the law not changed just before Grandpa was about to die, Grandpa literally would have been dead and the family wouldn't have even known or cared. And then we're supposed to believe the Lisa story, which she's like, I've always believed in your grandpa, And I'm like, well, where were

you when he fucking needed you? Yeah. I was about to say this is meant to be a touching moment and like, I've never really felt that strongly connection between these two characters, though, don't expect me going to buy in now. So I'm like, what I do is I'll watch these episodes and I go set aside thirty seconds hit that time and try to come up with a better story. I'm not saying this is better. This is all

I come up with, right, this is my thirty second thing. If you just put us like thirty seconds, guys and fucking think about it, you could have gotten something out of it. So I've just got you could have had Lisa go to visit him, right, because she sees that everyone's bad down on Grandpa. Could have heard Homer in Marge say something bad about him, and she goes, oh, he probably needs somebody. She goes to visit him, he's not there. She finds the card for the euth

and Asia place on this desk. She races to stop him, she stops him, and then we get sort of like a healthish episode where it's like Bart and Grandpa working together, but it's Lisa and Grandpa working together to solve something right. That could be a nice story. Instead it's like no one loved him, no one visited him, no one called him, so he tried to kill himself. Any reason he didn't die is because the law changed. And then he goes to see them and that it's like, what are

you doing here? What I don't know? And then later on the episode was supposed to believe that, Lisa's like, I've always believed in you. Now you're not helping me, and I'm like, you weren't there for him. That was the whole reason he wanted to die. You've nailed it, you really. I mean, this is just shodly constructed all the way through.

I mean even by the first half, before any of the assistance who was or or mattad or stuff comes into it, it's kind of like just just tonally and in terms of the jokes and the characterizations all that, there's two there's two jokes in this episode and can I just point them out? First, one having to tell your relative that you love them despite the fact that they're gay. That's apparently a joke. And then the other joke is ha ha, Lenny, you've got down syndrome. Ha ha. Why wait,

so the joke is that Lenny has down syndrome. That's that's your joke. Well, he's missunder yeah, I mean he's caught up in meltdown mania clearly, and you know he and Lenny, he and Carl, you know, doing their tag team thing like I've got melt mania, I've got down syndrome. I was like, oh, wait a minute, I should have thought that, yeah, even him just saying oh I realized I just said,

oh you know him sorry yeah, or just yeah. Season seventeen syentims would have said, oh, I should have thought that through, or just or just don't do it or just don't do it. Well, that's the other thing. It's also not not that funny. Let's go. It adds nothing to this episode. Like, I don't know, just I feel like having having down syndrome be any form of a punchline in any way, whether it's putting down people, dancing down or not. I don't know. Maybe

I'm specting. Obviously I don't have it, but I've got relatives who have, and I just watched that, going, does that really need to be a joke in a Symptons episode? I don't know. Maybe I'm just touchy about it, but I just I was. I watched that and went, I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. Mister Tim Long not a huge fan. Yeah, look, I didn't like it, but I can understand how you could sort of make it work. So

it's a joke on Lenny, if you know what I mean. But if people just say, for example, there's an eight year old out there watching this episode and they see that, what would the eight year old think? That's a good point. This is a fucking kids show. Kids kids don't think that literally about the jokes. I know it's jokes for adults as well, but the jokes that are distasteful in that sense shouldn't require you to have to think about to understand it, because kids can't do that. So a

kid watching this who has Down syndrome would would feel bad watching this? Well, yeah, I mean they would may well pick up that they feel like they're the butt of the joke, which exactly, Yeah, so keep the joke, keep the layer jokes the things that aren't going to be seeing or could potentially upset the younger viewers. Maybe I'm just being touchy about it. I don't know, but I just joke annoyed me. I'm gonna I'm gonna give Tim Long and the Writer's room in the benefit of the doubt in this

regard. But at the same time, I think it was poorly executed. I don't I don't think it was bad in in concept. I think it was poorly executed. But then I don't know if I can forgive Tim Long on the writers room for a lot of stuff in this episode, because it just felt like an autopilot, or to use modern analogy, it felt ai It's like, this is this is what would happen in a Simpsons episode, this is what these particular characters would say. Let's feed all the scripts in

and see what it spits out in this particular scenario. And yeah, it just felt I hate to keep going back over the same, you know, the same things when we talk about season seventeen, But I mean, it felt like it lacked heart and instead was just being a real sort of wise guy or a real wise ass in terms of its jokes. It's like, yeah, it's like it's yeah, like you're funny made whose jokes are just really the expense of everybody else. Hey, that's me. But well,

for example, we'll bring up South Park right. When they take on issues like euthan Asian and things like that, you can usually get a sense of what Trayer might really think about the issue. But they do a really good way of showing it from both perspectives as well, making both showing the pros and kinds of both sides of the argument. Well, in this one here you come out of it and you're like, so, what do the Simpsons

right to think about euthanasia? Or did you just think it would just be a funny thing to just talk about if it's for ten minutes in a twenty minute episode, you know, yeah, Or it's a way to get it's a way to lead to Grandpa becoming a matter matter door. Yeah, it's like, what are the circumstances would yeah, that would make Grandpa Simpson get into a ring with a bull. He's got a new lease on life? Why is he got a new lease on life? Because he tried to kill

him. Why did you try to kill himself? Because this happen, we need we need one single solitary person to be the bullfighter. I'll be the matta door. Grandpa will do it. And it's like what what what? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if you went to a bullfight in Spain or Mexico or wherever, there's usually wall more than one bullfight per day, so usually one more than more than one matter do all the day. I don't

know, never been to a bullfight. Is there's just one fight per day or all these towns that people go for one fight and then it's over and then because it lasts like thirty seconds. And the other argument is and you can hide behind the whole while they're springfield and they're dumb. Right, that's fine, you're going to hide behind that lazy argument. Go for it. But why did they build the stadium before they had it signed off? Why

was the stadium built before the commissioners signed to the contract. I think they might have actual precedence in real life. I don't think you would pump millions of taxpayers money into a stadium if you hadn't had a contract signed saying that it's going to be used. Look, I'm probably completely wrong here, but doesn't get the feeling that there have been certain Yeah, they have a course, of course, taken a few steps forward and exaggerated for comic effect in

this game. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. The whole thing also about really sinking the boots into Springfield. I mean that whole Springfield Blows song. I don't know, I don't know. I didn't even know what to make of that. My argument to that, right thing is so as company goes, it's come down to La and Springfield, because Ala sent in this really great video, right, And the whole point of ALA's video is don't choose Springfield, choose us. But how do they know it's going to

come down to those two while start making the video? The whole video was the reason it got down to those two. Good A good nitpick there. The whole point you chose Ala and spring was like Ala said this great video and check it out, and the video is about how it's down to those two. But how did Ala know it was down to those two? Yeah, I mean, I know You've got to have a throwaway line in there somewhere about la having a spy in the office or something. I don't know,

but and I'm just I've just gotten my notes. You compare this song right to getting game with kids, like the South Park songs, you know, compared to what this is. I was like this, like and Simpsons songs are usually pretty good, usually pretty catchy. Yeah, and the Simpson songs are like, they're usually awesome, but this one, I'm just like, this went on and on and fucking on. It just went on. Yeah. So just um, a lot of things just wrong with this episode.

I mean from the side show Mel camera, they're bad to begin with, but then this is the thing. They've got a checklist now for season seventeen. It's homophobic joke, Sacho Mel says something loud. That's every episode, every episode. But even then it's like and he's like, oh, Sacho Mel speaks like this, so he must be kind of raday. It's an elegant or whatever. It's like, isn't your mother a common hoole?

It's like, whoa, I feel myself feeling like a broken record here in terms of like this is a bit like family guy, Oh, you've taken that out of the seth McFarland playbook. Now, you know, all do you respect to Seth McFarland, who's you know, managed to create a little comedy empire out of his particular brand of whimsy. But also he's the worst fucking thing that's happened to when animation and a lot of it, but he

made it. He made a thing. Like what he did was he goes, all right, what's the most popular show animated show at the time? It was South Park, but also Simpsons. Right, everyone was talking about the Simpsons. All right, if we're going to compete with the Simpsons, we need to be the opposite of the Simpsons. So they did what south Park. They did what Simpsons weren't doing. But then they sort of getting They started gaining some some um steam and gaining some traction, and Simpsons were

like, oh, maybe we need to be more like them. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no, stay not learn. But they're the old they're the alternative. Keep doing what you're doing, don't take the exit, keeps stay on the highway. So yeah, I mean between that kind of sideshow mel joke or yeah, the angry textan who quite frankly, he's starting to reach sideshow mel levels of wearing out his welcome. What else is in there that sucks? I don't know, pretty much

everything just a very frustrating, disappointing, piss poor kind of episode. Million dollars abe. As far as I'm concerned, I didn't mind the youth and Asia story. I was like, this is a topic that I've never seen a Simpsons take on before. But that's just the way. It just became

such a throwaway part of the story by the end of it. The youth and Asia wasn't even discussed, just like like, oh, you know, he's got a new lease on life and he's gonna live life to his force, so he's gonna be a mad at or it's like, but is he doing itally he's got a new lease on life? Or was he doing it because he doesn't care about life anymore. He just wants to die and being mat like, what's what's the what's your story here? It's just what is

your story? Does you want to live or not want to live? Yeah, explain that. You know, I've got a new lease of laugh, so I'm going to do all the things I never did, or you know, I'm starting to feel depressing it I need to risk death to feel life again. So he starts doing more and more risky shit, and this is the apex of that. It's like I'm getting getting in the ring with a bull, even though an old man who probably has got shit reflexes and came

over. That could have been like part of a montage or something, just something throw away and jumping down a plane or whatever. Yeah, or if we're gonna do like a euthanasia episode, this may feel a bit like cheating. But have someone else from the retirement castle feel like, oh, I don't want to live anymore. I've heard about this guy you know who brought in the card, wasn't Jasper? Old Jewish guy. Old Jewish guy,

have that character who's not unfamiliar to the viewers of the shows. And I've had enough of this, you know, I mean, give them a little bit of a side. Plus, I don't have any relatives life, I get it. Why am I even here? And have them explore the idea of like it's time for me to check out, and it gets Grandpa thinking about it to some degree, or Grandpa says, no, there's more to it than this. You can you can. Let's let's let's do a piss

take on the bucket list. Grandpa could walk in and find the card or something and Grandpa's whan it stops and then he get Grandpa helping your Jewish guide go and do things that he wants to take off his bucket list. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I think this episode. Okay, when when did the bucket List come out? I think this episode predates the bucket List? But we're two dozen six shook the bucket list. I think bucket list is like twenty tens or something. Oh that like, okay,

let's have a look the bucke List two thousand and seven. Oh okay, yeah, so it wasn't far off far off. The script, the script for the buckle lists were probably circulating around Hollywood at that stage. You could have ripped it off. Hey, hey, hey, the bucket List directed by Simpsons episode guest are Rob Ryner. What the hell? Man? Yeah, he knew about it, he knew, he knew, and he let it happen. Fuck you, Rob Wrider. Oh man. But this is the thing, right, this is the thing. Like I said,

I sweared anything. I set the thirty second timer, and I came up with something that is phar more logical, and more enjoyable, and what leaves you feeling like shit than what was delivered here. I just don't understand how what was so important about Grandpa being a matter or did you just see the design of the character and go that's going to be so funny. I just don't understand. And Lisa's at the front and at the end when all the

bulls run out and Lisa's goes Grandpama rust set them free? Like, what made you come to that conclusion? Why would you think Grandpa was the one to set them free? Grandpa was the one that was killing them before. What is happening? What is happening? Indeed my favorite? Did you have any favorite moments from this episode, mister Davis? Okay, shocker, I

had a few another originally really relate to the episode. I just think it's very important though, that we we criticize things when they need to be criticize, but also we'll highlight, we'll find positives as well, but when something doesn't make sense, it will be pointed out because it's just ridiculous that, yeah, when something is off key, yeah you're gonna let them know. Because I'm passionate about the Simpsons. You know, I grew up the Simpsons.

I love the Simpson I want the Simpsons to be the best. I want the episodes that we reviewed to be enjoyable. But when you're delivering this stuff, it's like, no, what are you doing? Okays? Yeah, I love the Simpsons. I want them to be better. That's why I get so angry when this kind of stuff happens. But what did you enjoy? Simpsons? What I like from this episode? I'm an r M fan from way back? Yeah, so if you if you play I Am Superman, um, Yeah, that's from I think it might be from Green.

It's a it's a great yeah it is. Yeah, and then nobody loves you John Lennon. So I got both their favorites there. Everybody's happy. Ah, So yeah, quite happy with that. Another thing I'm fan of is dour, downbeat nineteen seventies science fiction movies. So if you have a prolonged tribute to soilond Green, as this episode did, where Grandpa ends up in the suicide room, where hey, we're going to play a certain kind of music and we're going to show you footage from there from the good

old days, Okay, that's all right by me. It's a nice twist in Soiland Green of character goes into such a room. They play some lovely classical music and it's a really shihouse future and they get to show him all this lovely nature. But it's like, well, this is really illuminating the message of this movie, and you know, making me feel a tear or dope. My Grandpa Simpsons, the Glenn Miller and what hippies get beaten up and I literally have mines. Guy will appreciate this. Guy did appreciate that.

And also another one third thing I'm a fan of is wordplay. So I liked when outside the public meeting had said come for the agenda, stay for the adenda. I really liked the battery dead and an assistant dead on the commssioner's phone, and the Blackbrie. Well those things they died a quick death, didn't they. Blacky. There's a movie out now. If you're it's not in cinemas in Australia at the moment, but if you've got a

the PN or no scruples, yeah that's correct, called BlackBerry. And it's a bit like because there are all these movies out at the moment about here's how they tetris and he's how they did you know he's at the Great the Air George. How many people and how long do you reckon know are paid to come up with that title? How how long were their brainstorming in the room coming up with the title for that movie? And how much do you reckon it cost a movie company to pay these people to come up with that

name. But apparently this one's not bad. I haven't seen it yet, but it's about the making of the BlackBerry. I always like those movies. I mean, I really people a few of my friends had they had it, but I'd like, for example, the Steve Jobs movie and things I find Steve Jobs movie is fucking great. Yeah, I'm going to the mat for that one. That's awesome. Way the way he created the iPod, it's just like an amazing story. Amazing, absolutely it is. Yeah.

Oh look, there's a lot to be said about about these movies and the way they're told as well. I mean, i'd seen I've seen Air at the cinema and we get it for the Four Fingered Scan Network. It did into the Spider Verse sequel review. Let me show you something just real quick. This is guys to do list for the weekend. Everything is crossed off except record movie reviews of Spider Verse and john Wick four. So make that happen, pase, So I'll do that tonight. I am sorry about that.

But just above that was spend time with Girlfriend is the title from what You've Taught Me? John Wick Snore, john Wick Moore, john Wick Please anymore? Uh yeah, But I mean I rewatched Air yeah, just the other weekend because it was like, because you're a pirate that No, No, it's actually on Prime Video now, Oh shit, did you pay for us? It just for free to watch? Yeah, it's free. I mean that's what it was. It was bought by Amazon initially, Oh wow.

And then they're like, oh, we'll throw it in cinemas for a few weeks and see we can make a little cash off it. But then we'll put it on put it on Prime And you know, I was down at my sister's plays and I was like, oh, I don't want to think too much. I don't know if I've got enough energy to devote to something new. It was like er will do? And I rewatched it. I was like, yeah, this is really good. And I think Affleck's really smart in terms of like making just movies that are default movies for a

Sunday night. But it's like, I don't want to think I trust these guys. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm Blackberries apparently in that vein about you know, the making of the BlackBerry, how do we get the BlackBerry? Because these BlackBerry died assistant dad correct, Oh man, sorry, I've really got to get more discipline when it comes to these dumber side tracks. Oh that's fun. The other thing really liked, there's nothing to do with the actual episode. I really liked the chalk gag. Did you see the chalk

gag? The upside down chalk gag? Yeah? I was like, that's how has it not been done before? I was very creative. I liked it. Yeah, I thought I got a big kick out the chalk gat when I says somebout the episode on. One of my favorite moments is the chalkboard gag, which is usually some of them, some of them good, some not so much. This one not too bad. Next question, you

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Davis, it's time now for some trivia. So what is your first question? My first question is how many slot machines are there on the Las Vegas trash barge? Oh shit, is it a lot? No, I'm gonna say seven. I'm gonna give you the correct anto, which is two two. Okay, I thought, like, what's a casino number? Seven? Yes? My first question is what are the three forms of death available at the euthan Asia? Say, no, damn it. There's peaceful death,

instant, slow and painful, and megadeath. I knew there was megadeath. That was the one thing I did remember which was like, it's okay, I guess, um, what is doctor Egoyan's phone number? I didn't write it down? What was it? It client two two two two two two two. No, it is five five five zero three six two okay six two alright. My next one is who is sponsoring the bull fight at the end? Oh damn it, um, it's Taco Pronto. Taco pronto. speF your taco ponto. Yes, if when you don't want to wait twenty

minutes for a daco, no taco pronto, ta pronto. I'm pretty sure he was the commentated from the soccer game that time, the one who was like overenthusiastic about it much happening at all? Ye, speaking of soccer, I don't I don't know who won the games pot football for all you know UK lists. Of course we call it soccer here in Australia. But on paramount plus they had the final between Man City and Man United I think, and like someone scored a goal and with like the first player of the game,

like the first ten seconds or whatever. I was like, what's happened? What the good names happened to soccer? You know what I mean? You sure? You want? You sure? You weren't watching ted LASSA maybe, but yeah, it's literally if the patterns like the quickest score ever in history or something for Grand Final Final, they do it quick down in Manchester they do indeed. All right, what's your next one? My third and final question for you is, um, where did Mire Quimby meet Lloyd Bridges?

Oh? Yeah? Was that an airport? It was an airport in Atlanta? What what? No? I wasn't hearts Field? Hearts Field? All right? And my final question is Luigi's is closed on which day of the week. Oh, it's the day of the week that most fish and chip shops are closed in Geelong. So Monday, Monday. Yeah. And someone told me this story once and I don't know if it's true, And you know, I did this quite often. Like someone told me this and

it sounds true and I've run with it forever. It's that Monday's is the day and wish in which all the shops go to the fish market to pick up their fish, fresh fish for the week. I'm like, that is believable. I'm going to accept that as a true answer. I'm going to run with it for the rest of my life. But it is Monday just not a day the people eat fish and chips Like, it's always just Monday.

Fish and chip shops are closed on a Monday. I'm like, there's gonna be a reason that every single fish and chip shop is closed on a Monday. And the logical answer is that's when they're going buy their stock. I'm like it kind of makes sense. But why you would have to be closed to buy your stock, I don't know. But every Monday, the fucking fish and chip shops are closed. It's weird. Is it light that

anywhere else or is it just a geelong thing? Well? What day of the way in the UK listeners in particular, is there a day of the week in which fish and chip shops are closed? Because you know, fish and chips is fish and chips is like the big thing in the UK's it's their meal. And what is the fish and chip day? Like what you can in the show used to be the Sunday night thing, wasn't it?

Fish and chips very from Sunday Sunday roast. Yeah, growing up in the Catholic house, I'll be you have fish on a Friday and yeah, sometimes you wouldn't feel like cooking fish, so you get fish and chips, but also from air. For me, particularly my late teens and early twenties, it's like Sunday night as fish and chips night. I'd be like, I've got a bit of a hangover and eat something greasy to sort of, you know, ease me into the week. I'm gonna squeeze some sauce on the

paper. Oh yeah, absolutely, um so it's a piece of flake minimum chips too, dimmies. Stop off at the seven eleven on the way, grab a big bottle of water and a pack of Marlboro lights. Come come home and watch Beverly Hills nine two on the day of Special listeners. You should have seen the hier glee of guide has revenucing then good time. It's great classing kids. So Sunday night was your that was your nine two and o night? Was it that? That's what was on that night? For

me? That was New Simpsons eventually became the Wednesday night in Australia, but when I was a kid, New Simpsons was Sunday night, and it was like and Dad would always own the TV on a Sunday night because we wanted to watch whatever was on Sunday Night. Becau Sunday night. They had the important stuff on it right, so Dad would have the big TV and we'd be in mum and Dad's room watching new Simpsons on out on my dad's bed.

I never one of my most vivid memories of watching The Simpsons as a kid, it's being in mum and Dad's room when the new episode of Who Shot Mister Burns? Part two was airing for the first time, and my sister Stacy and I had spent like all fucking the summer or whatever it was, or the winter, whatever it's in Australia trying to work out who shot mister Burns. We had a little notepads and we'd written down things and I thought, I thought Smith's the obvious one, and we had it set in

stone. I'll never forget. My dad walks in. He's like, you can watching Simpsons out there if you won no show. He's finished, but okay, and it's like, we find it. We're gonna find it. Who shops to Burns? Day goes? They said on the radio the baby did it? And I was like, Nady, why oh man. That's one of my first experience of a proper spoiler. It was so important to me that episode and the heartbreak of knowing who it was. I was so sad. But they said on the radio, that's already been on. We're

like, no, it hasn't. He's like, yeah, they said on the radio, the baby did it? Oh oh man man, And we thought he was. And it was so illogical that we just assumed he must have been. Were like maybe, because then when he realized he spoiled it, he was like, well, I'm just bullshit. It's it's not the baby. So we're like, gonna be the baby? Is he telling the truth? I was, Oh, maybe it is that it is Smith's.

For that little period, I was so sad. But yeah, can you remember your first spoiler when he was when something got spoiled for you that you were so excited for. Whether it was like so sabotage, we're going on

social media or something like that, but can you remember a spoiler. That's a really good point because I mean I've done it numerous times for wrestling events where I've driven and waited all day to not watch or gone social media and then you know, he just But now it's just nature to bring your phone out of your pocket and you go on Facebook or whatever, And the first thing that pops up is the results, like so and so won the title, and I'm like, you fool, Well, it's thinking like I didn't.

I didn't even put my phone out to go on Facebook. My brain just did it. It was so used to doing it now I've done it so many times. Stuff sabotage. But can you remember the first spoiler for you? It's literally going it happened a bit later than this than your spoiler, because I mean I was never really really concerned about it, and I can't recall all that many That sort of meant a great deal to me. I mean, I was lucky that I went into Empire Strikes Back and didn't

know that that must have been so awesome. That was pretty rad. It was to experience that with so many people at the same time would have been such a cool experience. But here's the thing. Empire Strikes Back, I think started during school holidays and my birthday corresponded with it and didn't start in Geelong. But Dad drove me and my best friend JP up to Melbourne, so we got like the first screening on the Thursday that had opened, and

we went to Hoyt Smid City in Berke Street. And I don't know, maybe Star Wars wasn't that big a deal for some people, but we were like it was a huge cinema. It felt huge to us because we were a little kids. We're ten or eleven, yeah, eleven years old, and we were like the cinema. There was maybe like five or six people in the cinema. But yeah, well that was the first screaming, first

screening, and yeah, I think I'm pretty sure. My uncle Darren, he would have been fourteen, fourteen thirteen when the first movie came out, and he says it was just huge, like Star Wars just absorbed his life. Like, oh, he said Star Wars was massive, you know it really was. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it doesn't make sense, but I'm pretty sure that's how I recall it. Anyway. I recall because

I bought a little Yoda action figure in the foyer. I think you've talked about this, and then I lost it in the cinema, lost it, yeah, and I was like, what the hell that that was a spoiler that spoiled ship for me, the first real spoiler I remember. It was actually like the sixth sense. I got to experience that with Nikola, and she didn't. In the end, I got to see her see her response that, yeah, that was pretty cool. But yeah, so you knew

about that going and that's a shame. That's such a cool. Yeah, because everyone was sort of talking about these early days of the internet, people are talking about, well, just you know, you should know there's something to happen, there's a twist, and I'm like, oh, that sounds interesting. Okay, well, I don't really want to know about that.

And then I was reading a related article. It wasn't a review of the movie or anything like that, but someone mentioned, oh, by the way, it's like we all know the spoiler for the sixth sense by now. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like, oh, okay, well that's m I mean. Then I still saw the movie, and I was still appreciated the movie, I thought, but knowing that I was watching going okay, oh, it's like it's like you watched the film. Everybody watched it for

the second time pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I imagine I would have got at the end like everyone else. Though. My favorite twist that I remember being in the movies where everyone was just fucking gobsmacked and like no one saw it coming was sore. Oh, like Saw one. I won't spoil it for people know it. I won't. I won't spoil it just in case, you know, just in case someone that they wants to watch

it one day. I know what it's like. But when that happens at the very end, remember everyone seen him, it was gone, oh fuck, look it's so obvious. How do we not see that? And it was just it was really cool. Yeah, and it's just sort of stuck with me. But I just yeah, this is yeah, this isn't so much a spoiler, but I do recall a twist like where I actually went like a crowded cinema. It was total recal. I'm pretty sure I talked about it, you know, yeah, don't let's say the actual spoiler.

But yeah, no, this isn't even an actual spoiler. But it's more like, um, it's a development where you know, the guy comes in and says, oh, you think you're having this adventure of Mars, but guess what, you're still in the chairback at recall and I'm like, wait what, Yeah, I just thought that was fantastic talking. I'm a sucker

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Rob Ryner and Michael Carrington as the Jock Center host. Number two chopboard gag was I will not flip the classroom upside down and it's actually upside down, which I thought was very clever, and the couch gag. One was the one with the Simpsons family are sitting down in the couch and it's TiVo, and I was like, tivot wasn't a thing here, But I don't remember still thing in America. We could just have like our Fox. Our box

just does essentially what TVO would do. But I remember there was a point in time where being able to record TV was like such a cool concept where it was no video games. It was just recorded on your box and you could delete it. But you don't need it anymore. It was so awesome, don't we called the DVR? Just did it recording? We did get Oh my god, the modern world, What a world we live in, What a time to be alive? Yes, and they says delete the recording

and delete the Simpsons. But the episode kicks up with the family watching TV and we get a gag about Carmen Electra and her boobs, and I was like, oh, that's a sign of two thousand and six. Carmon Electra, I haven't had that name another long time. She she was like, and I'll say this with in the nicest way possible, like gorgeous woman, but she was not going to say she was almost like the poor Man's Pamela Anderson. That's exactly what I was thinking when this and those exact words.

We folks, we did not collaborate on this, but yeah, I'm not guessing a lot of people they're probably way But the fact of it is that we both thought, yeah, Carmon Electric, nice gal, but the poor Man's Pamela. Pamela kind of cornered the market on Guru A Ruger, That's yeah, I mean, and yeah, the the exaggerated blonde bomb shelter up and Carmon Electrics going. We couldn't afford Pamela rans and the Carmans free. Oh yeah, cool, that's fine. Yeah, and she she seemed I

no more racy than Pamela. Pamela had a sex tape and stuff like that, but carmea elected to see what she'd be up for. Nathan True. I'm trying to recall if she was like a Prince protege, because Prince said this phase where he was like, yeah, I'll help you get a recording contract or whatever. The Purple rainstar dated a bevue Beautiful sales throughout his life, including Kim Bassenger, Shila E, and calm An Electra. The relationship

came to an end in the early nineteen nineties. Come and want to live in la and Prince wanted to stay in Minnesota. Prince wanted to stay in Minnesota. It's just not what I expected. He Yet, we build Paisley parkins like I don't need to live, you know, I want to hang around, purify myself in the waters of Lake Netonka. They're talking about Jock Center here and they're announcing they're going to have a new football team and they're

looking for a new place to bring it. And Lesa says, we only known for the place that has the most heart attacks, and we get a clip of Nelson and Moment having heart attacks. The home avows to make it happen, and everybody laughs at him, and even Maggie bald Mummy is short to fail. Then a random gag so cut too like the exterior of the house, and we hear various sounds of Homer building is whatever it is, and then there's a sto sort of payoff for the sounds that we hear.

It was odd, yeah, but here's the thing I mean within that is kind of like the germ of an Okay gang, where it's like you hear various sounds of work, and then you hear the pinball machine. It's like, I can't be asked work anymore time to play pinball? But then you have to put a hat on a hat on a hat with all this? What was the other ship? It was like European siren and something else. It's always like one too fair. He's come, that's kind of singing,

yeah, the ringer ring of rosy. Someone's like, yeah, fuck was the point of that? You know? You had a perfectly good joke and ye and yeah, screw it all up? Why is that happening? Where's that coming from? What's I'm like, what's the payoff going to be for this? Are the reason the payoff? What? What's happening here? But Marge goes down, she finds Homer after a week, he's been working on

this thing and he's actually put together a pretty good pitch. He's built the stadium and he's built there, got the d arama of the players and everything like that. It's not bad. Um, No, Homer do good. And he's called the team the Springfield Meltdowns. The various sponsors of the of the model on the model there, and he's like Sponsor Sponsor spontsor spontsor a stupid Flanders park and Marge pretty attraction to me, and she can't believe he's

done all this hard work, so she pounces on him. But first of all, she says, would you mind brushing your teeth? And I've got here. Have you ever kissed somebody who had bad breath? And did you a tell them or be just run with it because he just really wanted to kiss them. I'm normally the one with a bad breath. Yes. Has any ever told you to brush your teeth? Kiss them? Oh? Yeah,

the love of the weed has many times. And I'm like, I was gonna it's happened to me once and I kiss Nick and Nicholas like you brush your teeth today, and I was like, oh man, now, breath complex. It's like, yeah, I certainly will from now on. Yeah. No, But I mean it's one of the things I tend to be fairly conscious of or sensitive about. So usually if I wake up, I'm going to run into the bathroom, you know, do a little plexing

so that minty fresh. Yeah, because you don't want to be hit hitting up your lady love with dragon breath Oh hi, I'm Rob Reiner, director of When Harry Met Sally. I'll have what she's having was one of the lines. I'm here to tell you why you should choose La over Springfield. La has the beach, a thriving music scene, and the beautiful Getty Museum. Springfield has a pounahasapia pedal on. Hollywood takes in talented actors and writers

from all over the world. Springfield takes in garbage from other cities. But don't just take my word for it. Some of Hollywood's biggest stars have taken the time to sign waivers, allowing celebrity impersonators to sing in this video. Enjoy the song a lot even funny, no, no, terrible. But they're going through like a we are the world Like they do this perfectly in Radio bart right, it doesn't work in this one. This one is just what lazy And I don't know if the lazies this is meant to be the

point. It's like, these guys are no competition and we'll just say they suck, and it goes on and on and on and on, and then it just gets to them going we hate La. We weren't gonna get them a team, and I'm like, then, why was it down to those two? Yeah? By the way, one thing I did like about Rob Ryana's guest performance of facing all the stars on Hollywood Boulevard, even his own dad's by putting Rob over Carl Rhiner and Rhina over Roblow. Oh it was

pretty funny, was Rob blow? He was back into good books by this point. Wasn't because he had west Wing and things like that. Yeah, the early night, wasn't it. Yeah, late eighties or early nineties where he sort of went off there because because it was Prey Wainsbow. Wasn't it because Wainswell was like his comeback? Wasn't it a little bit of a comeback? Yeah? I mean he in the in the lifespan of celebrity scandals,

his was fairly brief and burned out fairly quickly. Yeah. The upshot of it was he was at some political rally and think he had a freeze threesome which was taped with a couple of young women who turned out to be young women. That's the issue, all right. Yeah, when I say young, I mean like sixteen, and that's that's young. And but also they may have been the age of consent in that particular area, but it's all still like Rob come on man, and yeah he was off the radar for

a little while, but yeah, then bounce back. Where do you play in Wayne's World? He was like that, I forgot the character's name, but he was like the TV exact, wasn't he? The t was it TV exactly? It wasn't he? Yeah. I have revisited Wayne's World for a long time, and Nicholas never seen now. So we've got to watch that movie one day because I used to love it when I was another teenager. I don't know whether they watching. They're both not bad. I think

waynes World two was actually pretty good. I've never seen waynes World two. I own, I owned waynes World, I've never watched it. Waynes World two is pretty good, Okay. I got a bit of a soft spot for I mean a lot of those SNL movies from the nineties and early two thousands, a junk cone Heads. I used to like cone Heads when I was a kid. I've never revisited. I'm going to leave it that way because I feel like it's probably a bad movie, but I used to.

I used to like the cone Heads movie when I was Younger Ladies Man. I didn't mind that there was a character played by Tim Meadows from Walk Card and Mean Girls. He's basically just this like pimpy ladies man kind of guy who has like a late night talking Talkbauck radio show where he's answering sexy questions and he's usually like, oh, yeah, that sounds real sexy. You will lead it. Oh, I don't know. They were able to spin a movie out, but it had musical numbers and everything wasn't too bad.

At the Roxbury that was another one. The Roxbury. Um, yeah, they went through a stage where they all these kind of one note characters got movies. Yeah, it never happens anymore. I felt. The last person to sort of get anything out of that was maybe Um Sandberg. He was sort of the last little SNL started to sort of break out and do his own thing. Do you think got his own show? Now? What? He was dating Kardashian recently. What's his name? Oh, Pete Davidson.

Pete Davidson. But he's probably the breaker. Kate McKinnon, I guess yeah. I mean a few have gone on to do other things. I mean, yeah, Kate McKinnon's not unpopular. She's in the Barbie movie that's coming up. One of one of my favorites from sl was as a woman called Cecily Strong. She's fantastic, and she's on a show called Smickadoon on Apple TV's sort of a musical. She's great. But now that it's not really making the stars the way it used to. Nah, But we can sume

TV differently as well. Now. I mean I feel like sort of lives by clips on YouTube as opposed to people sitting down on a Saturday and all watching s and l at the same time. Yeah, much like tonight shows. Yeah exactly. I can't remember the last time I actually sat down and watch the full episode of a talk show when now it's like someone said a little three minute clip on YouTube, Ill watch that, but I won't sit down and watch the full episode. But yeah, So they've got the Springfield

blow song, which is no good. They all hate them. Maybe at the rich text and saying he's just he's sad because he has to go tell his gay grandson that he still loves him even though he's gay, And I was like, what was he sad to say? I couldn't. It didn't even feel like a gay. Well, he was like, I've gotta go tell my grandson that I love him, even know that he's gay. I'm okay, Alway says I can go tell my gay grandson that I still love

him. It was the tone for me. It was the tone of all his texts, and so he would be opposed to homosexuality, So of course that's the thing. I just didn't. It just felt weird, not necessary to me. But then we get the news report for the announcement. This is Kent Brockman Alive, a Duff Beer, Krusty Berger, bos Cola, Costington's department store, Quickie Mark, Stupid Flanders Park. In just one hour, the Commissioner of Football will arrive to sign the contracts necessary to make Springfield

the home of Pro Football's newest team, The Meltdowns. I've got melt maybe I like dawn syndrome. In honor of the Commissioner's visit, the city has been repainted in the team colors at all the streets whimsically renamed Dutchdown Avenue delightful. Who are you talking to your imaginary girlfriend? No, it isn't your mother a well known how No, you win this round? Mal, someone's like they have now acknowledged that he yells at in every episode because the joke

is Jimbo saying, who are you talking to? Dude? Why are you speakulate this when there's no one else around? It's like, what are you doing? Yeah, a lot of these gangs just sort of had extra bits that didn't really add anything or to tracted from what went beforehands like, yeah, just cut it off it who are you talking to? Because if the rebuttal is, isn't your mom a whore? You in this round? Mal?

I'm like, that's the joke. Come on, that's if that's the page, that's the payoff and the set up just isn't required in my opinion. Then Bob Armstroump he is late for the contract signing and he can't find the place because Springfield change all the street names too. I thought that's I thought that was okay, that it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I didn't mind that he's late, But he's batch's died in his phone and his

assistant's dead. So he goes to the Simpsons house and Grandpa's there watching that, watching Maggie's that what he's watching watching Maggie's that way he's there. I know he's supposed whatever reason, and he wants to use the phone slash the bathroom by the way, a quick nitpick. I know this is usually your area, but they give you an image of the crowd, Rainy a Wolfcastle shouldn't be in the crowd is to be like a corporate box or something.

That's true. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, it's just anyway. But Grandpa he sees the news story about Snake, and Snake's talking about when he breaks in the people's as he pretends to used to phae in the bathroom. So Grandpa thinks that the commissioner is there to try and steal their gold, steal their money, so he hits him with the golf club. There's had an idea for a gag in that forty eight minutes thing where it's like we spoke to someone about, you know, bashing old people over the head

or whatever. Do that thing on Current Affair shows where you blur out someone's face so you can't see who they are, but it's Snake's voice. Yeah, and you just know it. I was like having to say, like premium or dude, having said do you know, like how do you know how can you tell? I mean, how can you not tell? There's a snake? Anyway? Yeah, hit him with the golf club, and I'm doing what I can to help you. Simpsons episode You Need It.

We cut back to the crowd and Wigams telling bad Joseph try and store for time until the commissioner arrives. He's resigning a poem. I don't know what it is. It's like a poem about ancient Native Americans or something. Okay. The family then arrived home. They find the commissioner all tied up and he storms out, and then we get a really mean, sad line from Homer. Here he goes, you're a useless old man, and I'm like

that, It's just like, I don't know that was that was. And because that line was there backed up with nobody loving him and him resorting to suicide, what the fuck kind of morbid shit is this? It was simple, you're useless old man. We left me with the baby. You left me with a baby. They kind of end with a gag there, but I just thought you were a useless old man. There's no jokes there. It's just a real mean spirited line from that just I don't know didn't work

from me. Now you could say that it's it's valid or that it's necessary for the story in terms of well it makes Grandpa to press and he thinks about ending at all. But again, it's a matter of how it's handled, how it's presented, how it's yea, all that kind of stuff. But yeah, Grandpa has to feel low. But yeah, I mean to do it this way, it kind of feels not so much like, oh well, this will get us moving to the next man. That's just something

you don't come back from. Yeah, And then it's just like they would have the argument, Wow, well Marge told her to call him, but but you got distracted by the phone, you know that the movie survey or whatever it was. And I'm like yeah, but then no one thought to go, oh well, let's just call him up again, you know, like, okay, home, we got distracted. But where was anyone?

Why why didn't Marge call? And what didn't lesa go seeing wouldn't like no one cared about Graham but to the point where we want to commit suicide and had the lockers that, had the law not changed, he'd be dead and they wouldn't have even realized. Very true. Also, as we said earlier, you know, it's just a missed opportunity where Lisa should be the only one who cares about him. So at the end it feels like it's cause

an effect. Yeah, but by the way, Chief Wiggins is reciting the song of Hiawatha by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, which is also a name for a part of My Anatomy. I wanted to also point out that this episode was rated M in Australia because of the themes of M Yeah, you would fifteen in the UK. So everyone now hates Grandpa. Get the montage with John Lennon's Nobody Loves You when You're Down and Out, which is a great song. Even the Denchers won't smile at Grandpa anymore. No one likes him.

The old Jewish guy arrives and he spits on him, and then he gives him the card for the euthan Asia doctor and Grandpa says he wants to grab a bit of dignity slipping in the shower and they find him more blood. Just so, I don't know, it's a different whether he's a human or a couch. Mister Simpson, you are a good candidate for assisted suicide. I think you're cute too, but killing yourself isn't as easy as putting on an ugly sweater like you did today. I want you to carefully think about

this for twenty four hours. Oh, I see. You want me to reconsider whether or not I really should give up my life. Yeah, and we're cleaning out the death machine today. A lot of gun gets stuck in it. Grandpa says that he will decide to live if he gets a phone call, and Marge told him to call. He's about to call, but he gets the movie Sovey the questionnaire gets distracted, and another whole day goes by, and Grandpa decides he's going to kill himself because no one has called

him and no one likes him anymore. He feels like a useless old man. As Homer puts it. We're now at the clinic and he says he's gonna be hooked up to the dipod, which which now is nostalgia because the iPod isn't a thing anymore. Correct. I remember a news article about Apple have discontinued the iPod, and I was like, that's sad. I mean, they're not necessary anymore. They're still sad. You know, it's still kind of I don't know. I like them. I like the idea of

them. Yeah, but I mean I know we're all listening to him through our phones, and it's like, I like the idea, just a little device, it's just for that unnecessary, but I can understand why people will still have that connection to him because that's what they've Or even the Mini, I mean I used to like I had a Mini that I really dug. I hated the minis because you couldn't have as much. I used to like having the info. To me, it was a big deal having like the

album cover and the song information. I was like, this is like my little collection here in my little in my pocket. And then I used to sit there for ages, like updating the titles and the writers and having the album covers, and there's a big deal to me. When iPads iPods first had the color, it was like whoa, it was like a new world. But just hearing that, you know, the iPods they're gone, I can imagine it'd be almost like when you read the article about the VCRs being

discontinued. Yeah, oh absolutely, and or even d going to JB and like we were on the Blue Beach. You go j being there, like would you like it free Blue Bay when you enter the store, and I'm like, not really actually what they did, but I'm just like they can't give them away now, you know what I mean. It's just I mean, I they had a buy won't get one free sale and I looked through

everything and I went, there's nothing. There's nothing. The other thing was I mean, yeah, because I saw that same thing because we were sort of negotiating that if you want one, I'll go pick yeah, because if you want one, then you get one and all that other I found two that I wanted and it was like not available for clicking collecting your local stores. I want to pay for posts. I'm what's the point. I'm like, how a bad fuck you? Yeah. I'm like, I'm not saving

anything because I'm gonna be posting it anyway. Yeah, so god, hell yeah. It's like they've they don't stop. But I'm not happy they don't stock their stores anymore with like older, older films, And I'm like, I know you can. It's happening. Like we're on the right track. We're on the track now. They will be gone soon. You do realize this like, I think we have both both have to accept physical media will

be gone. And the next time, the other day we lost our Telsia fucked up our internet and we couldn't get internet right, We couldn't stream anything. And Eliot's like, I want to watch Space Jam. I'm like, we can't make it. We can't because fucking Netflix isn't working. I'm sorry like that, He's like, we make it work. I'm like, it doesn't work. I want to watch Space Jam. And then and then he just goes put the disc in. I was like, wait a minute,

what an idea? That is? This novel concept of putting a fucking movie in the displayer and actually playing the movie. I never would have thought of that one. Well done sim wisdom from the mouths of Babes. I was like, all this argument could have been sold if I just went to the shelf with the four K and Space Jam and put it in the machine. But the idea of all of us not. If I can't get Netflix, then I can't watch it. It's like they've because they've they've converted me.

I'm like, wait a minute, it's there. I owned the movie. Why do I care if Netflix has it? Or not. And then I put it in. I was like, Wow, it's clearer. I can skip chapters, the trailers and everything. That's right. There was something novel about putting it in and just getting the menu. I was like, oh, menus, I remember these special features audio coming Terry's music videos from songs in the film. We never had it so good and put it on.

We'll putting it on and Alliott's going through and he goes, what's that one. I'm like, that's the film clip for the for the Bad Guys song. And he goes, put it on. He watched that film clip. I'm like, repeat for like ten fifteen minutes three times in a row. The the idea of a music video. He was like what is this? Like what what? And I was like, oh yeah, music videos don't

really thing anymore, like they are on YouTube. But like I don't think people go out of their way to watch music videos any what that is like streamed the song on Spotify, you know, let's reconci how often do you watch the videos on YouTube? You know what I mean? Unless it's like an old one. But growing up, it was if you wanted to hear

the song, unless it was on the radio. You had to wait for it to the music video on Yeah, on Smash Hits or yeah whatever it was video hits, video hits, or as I watched it, as I evolved to a mature teenager or preteen rage Rage like the Rage Top fifty was awesome because it was noahds and it was uncut, so you had the swearing. But they played the full music video and the full music video that I remember watching, obviously you would have been like Thriller or something, right,

but the Backstreet Boys is gonna sound silly, I know. But the Backstreet Boys had a video for that ever a Bard Yeah that song, which is like Thriller and it's all monsters and ships. Yeah yeah, like universal monsters. Right. But there was like a two minute interlude of them arriving at the Haunted Mansion and then being going to bed and being all spoot and going I know about this place, man, And then then they wake up and they are they are the monsters, right, and that the start and that's

when they wake up. That's when the show's up. Video hits were just cuts them going every Bard already in their monster form. But it's like a two minute thing that's set up and they're becoming the monsters, and then after the song's finished, there was like a two minutes afterwards where they're like turned back into people again, like they wake up from their dream. And I'm like, you would only get that if you watched it on Rage, So it was like it was a big deal to see the full clip. Yeah.

The funniest thing that happened on Rage as well was they'd get international artists who are touring or whatever. It's like, come on and program Rage and can play any videos. You're like, yeah, and everyone always played this song called Window Liquor by Aphex Twin because the video was banned everywhere else in the world. It's necessarily violent or sexy and everything like that. It's kind

of sexy comes but it's just disturbing. It's got some really like weird imagery because afx twin his sort of logo as this mask that's sort of like grinning Joker mask, and it's got all these women in skimpy bikinis being sort of hosed down and shaking their butts in slow motion, but they've all got the smiley face on and it's kind of like, this is weird. That's infesting my dreams. But everyone who who came in from overseass like you can play

us on TV. We're programming that. That was great, but we were now returning you to million dollars AB already in progress. But yeah, I was will say everyone hates Grandpa's that the clinic's hooked up to the diapod. That's right. He wants the Glenmill Orchestra. Let's just skim through this piece of shit, man. Yeah, he wants to see hear the music, and watch videos of cops beating up hippies. Then the cops enter with one minute to go before he's about to die, and the sister's suicide law has

been overturned. Her grandpa wikes off, thinks that he's dead. He's running through the streets and in his gown and he says he doesn't know whether he's in heaven and hell, and he says, Hanburger heaven and Charlie chaplain. He thinks he's in heaven as well, and he walks into Luigi's for whatever, raising the family just happened to be there. What you're all dead too? So who went berserk? That's so? Were the little guy run out dead? And matter a year, I'm not. I guess if you want

to commit suicide around here, you gotta do it yourself. So sad gap killing yourself as a sin, but not just to die of old age after years of pain and reduced mobility. I ain't gonna kill myself because I just learned something. The brief time I thought I was dead was the happiest I've ever been because I was finally living without fear and Dad never Dead's the way I'm gonna live the rest of my life after years of pain and an immability. And I was like, that's a good lie. I appreciate that one.

That's the kind of thing that's irrelevant to this episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. And then Grandpa, this whole story should have been about euthanasia. That's that's the thing. Got set up about the football team, and then have the batter or at the end, it's like the only then is only about five minutes of this actual episode. It's crazy to think that such a such a hot topic was barely in this episode at all. But we're now at the wet to come to the point where Grandpa said

he's gone to live without any fear. You know, the moment where I thought I was dead was where I was just happy and I wasn't worried. We had a montage of him sort of living life on to the extreme, but as an old person, like using the other saltwater taffy and skateboarding on but any two things saltwater taffy and skateboard on his scooters, you're all going to die in a pointless war. There was one thing here that made me

sad was the exterior of the supermarket has been updated. It used to always be that old supermarket with the trolley rolling out of the out of the young car park, but it was as a different design now. It was like ally when you look at nineties McDonald's stores and you look at modern stores. It made me sad. But when now at the town hall meeting there thinking of ideas for the stadium now because they've spent all this money on a stadium now they've got no use for it, no use for it. This giant

stadium, there's no use for it. We didn't we have that recently where it was we have no use for this orchestra with some Yeah, it's a music hall that we built. It's right, yeah, I'm pretty sure you just rehashed the same story. Literally now I must admit I've forgotten, so I've written, who's the Spaniard? Is here the guy from the people that had all the different movie jackets? Yeah? Yeah, it's planning a Hollywood jacket guy. Yeah yeah, but only only twig because I saw the plane

a Hollywood jacket and I'm like, oh, ok AD's that guy? Of all the people, you could bring back this guy. I feel that the design is kind of different with him. Started with him quite it looked it kind of looked like him, but it didn't as well at the same time. But they they he suggests bullfighting, they all say, oh, they need a matador, and Grandpa's like, oh, do it. And then I'm like, okay, why that's your way of living after the fullest? Is it? I don't know, It's just isn't it a death wish?

Being a bullfighter? Anyway? And like the it's the thing. I guess the family didn't want him to the family that want into it was Is it just Lisa did did we see margin Homer protest against it to say don't do it, it's too dangerous. Not that I recall, no so that the whole point of them being annoyed that he was can't commit suicides, it seems. And this is the thing. Not once in that scene where he said, you want to commit suicide, did they say you can't do that because

we love you. It was you can't do it because God doesn't want you to, So that they didn't even they didn't even have them say that they love him in that moment. Yeah, this is an opportunity for you to do that kind of thing, to reinforce the and the and have the family realize, oh my god, we are not showing this man the love that he needs. You know, they just fopped it off, like you can't

kill yourself. God doesn't want you to anyway. So Granba was now practicing the bullfight and he was Bart, sorry, see the mat off thing and with the red flag, and Bart goes past home and finds a penny, bends over. You think he's gonna get a horn in the bum, but he gets it in the crutch out. We're now at the first fight and Lisa is at the front protesting because you know who cares about grab By killing himself, But those bulls, he can't kill those bulls, you know,

Carlin Lenny. They compliment her, singing, He's going to bring it the bull's heart, and Grandpa's all dressed up and marches, yeah, you know, he looks. He looks pretty good, all dressed up in the in the outfit. Then the bull just roundly gets tired and falls down in front of it. Is this how bullfights go? I've never I've never actually watched

one. I just don't want I don't want to. I don't want to watch the only well, the main thing that I remember about bullfights is there was there's great memorable or viral moment where a Matt at Door just sort of realized halfway through a bullfight that he was like, you know what, fuck this, this kind of sucks, and he just stops and he goes and sits down, and actually he's sort of I mean, it's one of those things where it's like this image can mean anything, but it was like this

guy I was crying because he realizes, oh god, I'm just here to kill this ball for no reason. And you know, you seem sort of leaning against the woman, just feeling ashamed of himself or whatever. It's like, I mean, that's kind of moving and poignan or whatever. But yeah, unlike this episode, which is neither of those things. No. Then yet the shot with the ball looking up sad and broken and tired, and Grandpa lifts up the knife and you think what was he going to do?

And he comes down and it cuts away to Lisa, and I'm like, okay, so what the grand But I actually do I know? The ball just got killed. That's a line that I feel that Simpsons have never crossed shore. We see the animals getting killed and things like that, but for it to be handled in this way, it just felt so wrong. It just felt so Unsimpson, Like, didn't it It just felt so I don't

know, I just I didn't. I didn't like it. Yeah, and this is not to say there's not room for quote unquote dramatic moments or poignant moments in a Simpson episode, but yeah, this one just felt kind of awkward and weird and not mean spirits a bit a little bit cruel, A pointless death in a pointless episode. Yeah. Yeah, although I must admit the old man beats meadline was not unfunny. Yeah, it was funny, of course, but that's where I went, Oh, he actually did it,

so Lisa. Then Lisa goes to see him and she says, and he says, I've got to do this because people are now cheering for me. I was always cheering for you, Grandpa. And I'm like, no, was she though? Tim? Tim, Tim, do you remember did you cut something out of the script that we're forgetting to that we didn't see here, because I'm pretty sure we never once saw Lisa show any form of empathy towards Grandpa. She was showing some empathy towards other bulls, Grandpa not

so much. But now which want to get her own way. Suddenly she shown him everything. She she trying to lay the guilt trip, saying, I was always cheering for you. Give me one example, buddy, one example down built exactly the same face as though in that name was like is he though, yeah, it's not exactly the same face. Seriously, it's just terrible the way this was handed. And the next fight, Grandpa he seems distracted, and then he releases the balls. He sees the light,

he sees the positives and situation. He's like, no, this can't happen. This is ridiculous. Let's all the balls out. And then this is like, I guess Grandpa sat them all free. Why would you think that? What made it think that? Anyway? But then I did like the ball getting on the elevator and going up to see the guy in the commentator of Booth's stupid but funny. And then they take out gil Luigi was taking that as well. He's Luis's walking around with some fresh veal. And then

Grandpa and Lisa are just randomly floating in chairs with balloons. I missed that, but did By the way, did you catch the there was a swartzwelder cameo? No, I didn't see that. Where was he? Oh, there's a running sort of the balls the ball tore chasing people down the street. And I'm pretty sure he's on the left with the long hair and the hat and the glasses. Okay, did you not see the end of with Lisa and Grandpa and the sky with the balloons in the chair the end of

the episode. I must have missed that. I don't How did I miss that? At the very end, Grandpa and Lisa were up in the sky on chairs with balloons, much like the up house. And then the bulls float up with balloons as well, and he goes, oh, did you not see the end of the episode. I honestly don't recall that, and I'm sure I watch the episode because I went to the Yeah, because I saw I saw the bit over the closing credits with him and like um testifying

at the anti communist hearings. How did I miss that bit? It must have been paying attention. Yeah, so, and with Grandpa and Lisa in the sky sitting on a like chairs with balloons attached to floating in the sky, and He'll be like, ah, thanks Grandpa for finally doing this, and then bulls float up in the sky with angry faces on balloons, and Grandpa's like, oh, Dan, I assure you I watched this episode. I think the fact that I've point it out, you know, beats from

this episode would indicate that I had. I honestly don't remember that, and I watched it not that long ago. What the hell was going on? Did you? What? Did you watch it on Disney Plants or on the discs or Disney Plus? Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go back and rewatch it on Disney Plants or rewatch the last bit because that bit. Honestly, I do not recall. But the bit of the credits was just where was that from? That? Did I miss something? It's like,

that's not no relation to this episode. I don't think so, I'm like at all, where would this a fit in? I don't get it. Yeah, it's got no relevance and no relation to anything that happens in this episode. This was such a bizarre episode. This was so weird. Yeah, and so not good. No, so not good? Sound good? That was? That was? That was? Yeah, I don't know, I fail on the Simpsons part. This maybe maybe drum me if you will, maybe in my top ten worst episodes I've seen to date doing this

podcast pretty bad, it's no good. I'm gonna say, I'm going to agree with you. It's yeah, it was unnecessarily pointless and morbid and yeah from a joke, Yeah, from a joke perspective and a human perspective and

all the kinds like, no, it failed quite miserably. Yeah, but in other terms, it's like, yeah, you had something you could do here, but you did it all wrong and just all over the shop like a bloody mad dog shit, a mad dog shit from this knee forward your name, droll me okay, mister Davis, it is time for the new name championship here for season seventeen million dollars abe. The current leaderboard stands at

this In first position we have Luke mcalon thirteen points. In second position we have Adam Moorehouse on ten points, and in third position we have Kyle Muldoon and Garrod Harrowhill both on nine points. So hit me, what are the one two three four this week? Oh? Are we doing four points as well? One two three four this week? Oh? My goodness, hand me confused for a second. That's but let's keep it to one two three old gold, silver and bronze and one point goes to matter dope, matter

dough. That is from Justin Williams. Now. Is that Justin's first time on the leaderboard. I don't know whether it is. No, Justin is now on three points. Why I'm Justin? That name sounded none for me to me. Well done, Justin, welcome to the league. Yeah, nice work. Two points for Aging Bull. Oh that's awesome. That is a great title. Of course, it's from a man. Mark Boston Burgess Point is wearing that leader board as well. Mark Boston now on six points,

halfway, there's a first position. You're halfway their buddy, well done, well downe Mark Boston Burgess. But three points for signor citizen signior citizen. That's actually even better and that is from one Heath Appleby Wow, that's Heath. Oh not quite first, So okay. So Luke McKay is still in first position thirteen points, but that now means with Heath getting that three points, Heath is now tied for second position on ten points, with Adam

Moorhouse and Garrod and Kyle still just one point behind them on nine. So it's a two weight. It's a tie for second and tie for third as well. Oh, very nice. How do you like them? Applebee's very good stuff? Deail here? All right? First question it comes from you've guessed at Andrew JP. Andrew says, if you could have any sporting team join an existing competition, who were to be and in what competition? I'd love to see the a Canberra team in either the BBL or the NBL.

So who won't a Gelong team in, assuming that they would be a half decent. Well, I'm at last just been getting back into the Supercats because he loves basketball. Alliott Oh Yeah, So I've been out to Supercats games and things like that, so I'm sort of like starting to follow the NBL a bit more again. Um, but so we already have an MBL team them and in the NBA would be pretty cool, but obviously that's not going to happen. We're kind of got a cricket team with the who is it

that the it's the Red BBL team, It's Melbourne. It's a Melbourne team, but they basically like associated with because there's two Melbourne teams and one of them is associated with Geelong. You know what I'm talking? Who are they? I don't follow cricket enough to be able to I don't have a single solidary cloth. Yeah, we have a melbourn team that's associated with Gelong, so we're kind of got to geln team. I don't know what about you,

like, what's what's sports? What sports are you into? Besides AF I was quite into basketball for a while. I mean, the Supercats had a real moment the son back in the back in the eighties, and the late great Bobby Davis, My father was associated with him to some degree. He was he was very close with a guy who was sort of a bit of a power breaker with Gelong basketball such as it was, so we'd go to a lot of games, got to hang out with some of the players.

The great Cal Bruton he was He wasn't a tall guy, but he was a fucking fantastic baller. He was really, really good. There was a guy called James Coroford. It was fantastic and a huge white dude. These were all American guys. These are all imports named Jim Town and Jim I got along famously for some reason. I mean, he was looking back and he was probably only in his early twenties or the thing. He's probably

fresh out of college. And I was his little weakness, little um, you know, teenage kid who was probably came up to about his kneecout. But I used to give him shit all the time. For some reason. I did just figured that I'm not not in a sort of a snarky way, but I'd tease him a bit. I know, for some reason.

Have you ever met someone you just know you can take the piss out of them and they'll kind of dig it, or you know, you can get up yeah, and then sometimes sometimes you take it that a little bit too far and you're like, ah man, and then you get picked up and putting a bin. Yeah, I don't know that that didn't. You're supposed to be cool. Man's supposed to take This is all I got, man, this is all feelings. But no, I mean I used to go

to see the Supercats all the time and I thought they were fantastic. So um, all due respect to the current Supercats, I'm sorry, I'm not really paying much attention to your prow West, but I think it'd be great if Gelong basketball got a bit more of a resurgence. Yes, one hundred percent, because it needs to, because you go to games and like they're playing okay, the super Cats, but and you think, like Geelong, how do we not have a team that's more importantly? You feel like when

you're in Geelong, it's all about the football team. You very rarely see the super Cat per murdered anyway anymore. Used to be like giant billboards over to roundtown the super Cats, and it's like you wouldn't even know that we even have a team anymore. I feel like we're just walking around town and things like that. It's really weird. But what would do one more question? Because' been going really long in this episode. This one here is focused

Jeffs. Do you have any funny or embarrassing sports stories from days gone by? Have any funny stories from going to the footy with your dad or anything like that. I didn't really go all that often, although I remember when I was very very young. I don't know why this guy, but I was with my sister ed ween and she's the one closest to me in age, and we were in the outer. It's good, good to be in the outer every once in a while. For some reason, some guy was

dissing our dad. I don't know why. I mean, Dad wasn't really involved. He wasn't playing. Oh he wouldn't been playing well, no, I mean I was born after he started. He finished coaching a little. But for some reason, yeah, I think he Maybe Dad was on the radio or something on three g L, the home of home of football, and yes, guy said something when it was not backwards back, that's our

dad you're talking about. I'm sorry, kids, I've made a girl man cry so but embarrassing sports serves myself and look, I'm sure i've got some. I mean, just you know, general fuck ups from when you think you should you'd be trying to look sort of cool or proficient in what you're doing, and said, you just mess up. I used to row, you know, like you've said this before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the worst thing that can happen when you row is then called catching a

crab. When you're you're putting your raw forward and it gets caught in the water and sort of comes reverbing back at you and it hits you in the ribs and it can just you know, it sucks up your whole race. It fucks you up. And yeah, that happened to me once. It almost knocked me out of the boat. It was just why is it called catching crab? Where's the relation to crabs? Um? It's like you you all goes in a bit too deep and you can't get it out in time.

Okay, I'm just thinking someone's just thrown crabs it, Yeah, don't catch them. They probably should do that. Yeah, I want to break position cheese kind of like bombardment, but just crabs. I M I broke my wrist once playing football and remember when I was on the ground, it was like under fourteen, So like you're at that age where you know you're not an adult, but you kind of feel like you're a grown up.

You know. I'm fourteen now. Anyway, I broken wrists. I remember my mom yell at my boys hurt, and I was like, oh no, Mom, don't do it. And and then I had this guy say you can't go out in the ground. Man, you cannot go out in the ground. And I remember just laying on the ground here and my mom going, you can't stop me from getting to my son. And Mom just like ran out in the field. The game had to stop, and I'm like, oh my god, obviously had a broken wrist. But I was

just like coming off. Mum's like walking off with me. I'm just like, Ohm, leave me alone. I'm like walking off the ground. She's walking me off the ground, my mum. Your mom's like mel Gibson the ransom, give me my alrighty, Well, that is a mailbag four million dollars. Abe. As you said, guys, this was not a great episode. Even when we go back and went through it all usually gets a little bit better. No, I think this one might have got worse.

This one's just not a good one at all. But we'd love to hear your thoughts. Send them in Simpson's Mailbag at gmail dot com. Don't forget to continue to rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can check us five stars on there. Also, beyond Apple Podcasts Live a few kind words. We'd love to read some new reviews coming through and if you do have a question for us or a message as Simpson's Mailbag at gmail dot

com. Mister Davis, any final words for those incredible listeners out there. No, I just gotta go because it's time for this old man to beat meat.