Homer The Great (revisited)

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We're very, very excited because today we're going to be reviewing a classic episode all the way from season six of The Simpsons. It is Home of the Great. I am Dano and I am guy here with Dando the Great. It's trying to be very nice to be back here for another year, twenty twenty four. Man, I mean, just saying these year names is starting to do my head in my way. Well, I grew up in the seventies and eighties, and of course they were being a little nerd.

I was watching sci fi movies or even seeing posters of science fiction movies, and they're always talking about the future, of the far flung future. And you know Blade Runner was twenty nineteen. I'm like, I'll never see that Wow flaning cos that's that movie Soil and Green. Yeah, it's like the year is twenty twenty two, the Earth basically sucks. I'm like, oh boy, that's that's the good. That's in the future too, twenty fifteen

flying skateboards and a three D shark and everything. But the one that struck me this year there's a sort of classy cult B sci fi movie called A Boy and His Dog, and it's got a great post of taglines like the year is twenty twenty four a future you'll probably live to see. The future sucks in that one, as well as like, oh god, I'm still here. Well, I started watching T two yesterday, right. I bought it on four K because JB had their sale. By the way, I'm

back on the physical media bandwagon. Yeah. I was like, because Nicol and I were looking for movies to watch on Netflix, and I was like, I'm gonna get a blue ray out and put it in, and we put in Deja Vu, oh, which i'd see it'd never opened. I was like, then's a Washington Zel. It seems like's gonna be good movie. Rebat. The description seems like it's right about Allie. We loved it, and I was like, oh, there's all these special features I can

watch as well. I was like, that's right. You can hear what director Attorney Scott has to say about this movie while the movie's playing. I was like, oh, I missed this. And then now I've been going through and having I bought up a Blu rays because I like seven dollars each now because they're trying to clear them out at JBI. I find I'm like audio commentary, audio commentary, and the kids love the idea now, the novelty of opening it up, putting the disc in, they love it.

I'm just like, I'm right back on the bandwagon again, hooray after you gave away or sold so many of them. I gave away a shitload of my Blu rays and dvdies to my sister's boyfriend, like many many before. I met Nicola right back now, and I'm like it makes my heart. I just can't. I don't want to think about it. It's like heartbreaking. I'm just like, what is he doing with them? Is he taking

care of them? If you watching them? Haven't you? But yeah, so watching Tea too, and it's like, this is the nineteen ninety seven and I was like when the world like ended, and I was like, oh shit, I didn't realize they like James Cameron, this came out and what ninety one? You could have planned a little bit further in or do you think the fact that was close enough made it feel more like hitting home?

I think I think that's the second. I think the ladder. Absolutely, yeah, Okay, it's like, look at it's not too far off. Clean up your act. But yeah, but you say twenty twenty four like it's reminding you of just oh yeah, I'm excited to be the best Christmas period. I'm excited for twenty twenty four. Like I've got so many ideas for this show and just I'm ready to go. Well cool, because

I've got a few ideas as well. I doubt they'll be as good as yours, but still, well, we'll throw them out there and we'll just keep providing wonderful, wonderful content for the four Fingered Discount family. Yeah, exactly right. So every month and now at least once a month, we're going to be revisiting a classic episode of the show. So this week obviously help me the great probably make it the first podcast of every month, we'll

be revisiting a classic. We're also got a bunch of great guest lined up for future episodes as well, joining us to review classic episode is going to be how of the Good Time? Of course, don't forget. We also do Going Down a south Park, which have just entered season four, and boy is it becoming the south Park that I remember. I was looking at the titles of their lives in season four It's like, oh, okay, yes, we are getting into strange new places or areas that you might consider

controversial. Yeah. Yeah, So the first I want, the first episode I believe, is the Two Theories Tat's two thousand, which we're going to be we're recording chat we record this one actually, so if you like south Park, check out that as well, plus all the exclusive shows we do on our Patreon Talking someone Fowl speaking of the Hill tells a few drama and the movie guys, but homely great? Right, So is there any other way to describe his episode? But just great? It's just like it is

just perfection. It's pretty good. It's one of the best episodes of all time. But yeah, look, certainly it is. I mean there's it's got all the hallmarks of what we call vintage Simpsons or classic Simpsons. Absolutely, and it's smack dab in that period of like I guess we call it the Golden Age, don't we got h Golden Era? Absolutely? I mean, you know, it's got home. We're in in a strange situation that, of course he rebels in too much and eventually sucks up. He learns

a valuable life lesson. By the very end of it, You've got a fantastic guest. I love the episodes that incorporate as many characters as possible, and what they do here, they don't just do that, they do it in a way that you've never seen before. Like, yeah, characters that you would normally see engaging with each other, like for example, Hermann principal, Skinner, doctor Hibbitt, and Wigham characters they don't normally see together,

but they're hanging out in this secret society. But I love the way they poke fun at the Freemasons, but just secret society in general, and how thick are they can be. They're like, this isn't working for us anymore. Let's change. Change our club. Well, yeah, I mean I'm always sucker for secret societies. I mean, and particularly ones that either hold the reigns of power or train people to hold the reins of power, or you know, like, all right, you're going to be helping us run

the show eventually, so come on board. We'll show you how the world actually works. Because I don't know, I think people we're all becoming more

and more conspiracy theorists as time goes by. I'm certainly not well maybe not conspiracy theorists, but I think you know, you're starting maybe people start to say, it's like there's a lot of really rich people who seem to be controlling things, but they seem to have a lot more sway over things, and it seems to be a point of view that's becoming more and more. I'm going to sort of, you know, leak into your social media cas.

You just have to watch one video, as we've always said, you know, watched one thing on on YouTube, or click on one link on on x formerly known as Twitter. Who calls it that's what conspiracy theorists do. They watch videos on social media and they get they fall down the rabbit hole. Oh so it's just me. But you know, I mean when someone like like Elon Musk buys something like Twitter and says I'm going to rename it X and all this kind of I mean, that's essentially what we were

just saying. It's like, I don't like the way this is working, so I'm going to take it and I'm going to change it. I think it was the fact that it was working. It was just like I wanted to make it my own. Well, let's think it was working. It was working just fine. It just wasn't work for him, and he had had the means to sort of say, well, how about I buy your precious new toy and turn it into and now it's all made, you can

play with it occasionally. Just a rich guy with power essentially, And but we're seeing more and more of those, and they seem to becoming more and more heroic to a lot of people. I mean, I'm surprised at how many people like, really dig someone like Musk and say that guy's hero I mean, you've got just as many people saying it's a douche. But I

don't know. I think in a world, in a world where you know, it seems like some things are going off the rails we look to there's got to be someone pulling the strings behind it, all right, it can't be all chaotic. So that's I think that's the appeal of something like or that lies at the base of the appeal of someone like Home of the Great. It's like, probably is some organization that's you know, someone's got to know something right or all just idiots overall, just idiots like the stone cut.

Also the Homer twist I think was a really fun one as well, with him being the chosen one. A lot of the way they planted the seed earlier in the episode where most like and it's being foretold that there's a chosen one, I was like, a whatever. And then I remember watching this as a kid, going I didn't see that coming. I think when you're a little kids watching that, you're I mean, that's something that might

slip by you. But I mean the more sort of stories you hear, the more TV you watch or movies you watch or whatever, it's like a plan to to seed there or it's like, oh, that's as we say. You know Chekhov's gun. You know you're introduced in the first act, that's going off on the third so it's nice to see that Homer becomes a

chose one. But yeah, but I like that that's not that's a midpoint sort of turn or a midpoint revelation, and then you know, you've got a bit to play with it once he's got that, and that sort of sets up the valuable lesson as well that you know, yeah, it's fun to have power, but you know, having too many yes men around, you're having, you know, everyone at your beck and call can eventually become I don't know, kind of dull, kind of like the Michael Jackson theory

where it's like he could have anything he ever want to, just go shopping and go, I want that, I want that, I want that, and he was so unfulfilled with life, which is why it basically he got addicted to painkillers because he just wants to numb the pain of just it was like people say that you can money can't buy everything, but it's like people who don't have money go, oh, yeah, it's easy for you to say that, but it's like you people who have money, and it's like

they're not happy. That's true. I mean a lot of them anyway, Well, yeah, here's that's what they do with the money. That is true. His stories about people who you know, win absurd amounts of money in a lottery and they either blow it all really quickly or so like not as heavy as they do it. It was I was looking on Facebook today and time zones are funny. Everyone is celebrating New Years at different times, or you know, they're entering twenty twenty four at a slightly different time.

And this person, I know, she was a journalist in Sydney, but she was originally from the UK and she decided to quit Sydney go back to where she grew up and she also works in the media. So I was like, a times are precarious. But she's saying, look, I'm not making nearly as much as I used to. I still sort of working things out, but having a lot less has made things so much simpler, you know, I made life so much easier for me and give me a lot

more clarity and focus in life. Now, maybe that's her just being class hut full, but honestly, it makes a lot of sense to me because we've talked a lot in the past about you know, having too many options and how it can sort of going on Netflix. Yeah, exactly. It's been an hour flicking trying to find something. Yeah, spending ten minutes flicking three years, three or four kas. But the thing is, I've said to Nicol yesterday, what I like now with the kids is they put the

disk in, they sit there and they watch the movie. It used to be the remotes in their hand. They knew they had to push one button. They can have the entire library at their disposal. Now it's they understand you put the disk in, you have to watch the whole disk, and then you take it out. I told him that once it's in, you're gonna watch the whole thing. And they sit there and they watch the whole thing. Their attention span is improving because they're not flicking. That's great maintain

that hopefully physical media. Man. It also gives me two hour break during the day when I'm watching the kids. Over the fucking school holidays, Man, it's been hectic. How much longer is that when they go back to Ali start school for the first time in three weeks? I want to say it is and I'm like, I'm like nervous about it. Of course, he's not a little dude anymore. He's like he's going to school and he's going to be going every day, and I just hope he doesn't get bullied.

And it's just cats in the cradle man. Yeah, Like, I just don't know. I don't think I'm going to cry, but I hope maybe I will. It probably will, It probably will, but I don't know. It's like I'm try to prepare him for it, but I just sort of prepare myself for it as well. That's very much the case.

I mean, look, yes, says the man with no kids, but you know I've been around enough for enough families where yeah, it's very much a common thing that, yeah, you're worried about them, but you're also worried about yourself because you know, you're separating what has been a part of yourself from yourself. Yeah, Because sometimes it's like over the holidays here, it's just been watching two kids all the time because Nicholas been doing some work

and it's just those two kids together all day. They get along, they know, they say that each other's best friend, but sometimes they've just had enough of each other, right, And I'm just like, ah, fucking our kids. And then I see like a thing on Facebook where it's like cherish the moments when their children. I'm like, oh, that's right, my children come back, come to the children, old please you in the mantle. But yeah, I absolutely adore this episode, and I thought Patrick

Stewart was just like so great. I was about to say, old mate, Pat stew rocks up, and this is a really good performance for well. I think the main reason is he's very much steer steering into the Patrick Stewart at all meme shuet. Yeah, it's got that lovely it's just got that wonderful stentory in the voice of his that makes it oh, okay, Yeah, this guy is definitely you want someone running the show or steering the ship of the Stonecutters. But he also puts just enough sort of pompousness on

it to make you realize this guy's a bit of a clown. And also they give him a lot of deflating gags as well. I mean, the whole we control the world and we review the world's secrets. Let's oket drunk and play ping pong. I was wonder if I paused because I was one of I was going to blow one of my trivia okay, because I want to do well with my trivia questions. But it's like to note we have ribs. It's like all these wonderful and pa, I was going to bring

that up. That's just that bit from the Lane. I rewatched it, and it's not that like the actual bitch, yeah, the actual bit like Melanie's like he played it up like I watched his, like Salt and Papa, and I'm like, I was expecting Salt and Papa. You're exaggerated for comic effect. What a guy. Oh but yeah, no, Patrick's it

was a fantastic Yeah, a fantastic guest star. You're right. And getting him to say battling of the swallow Ass with paddles, that's more like it's she's delivery is like, now, I never really got into Next Generation. I mean I've never really been much of it. I want to. I've wanted to get into Star Trek. I've just never bothered to. Really,

There's something about it just doesn't captivate me. Like you look at Star Wars and it's like, you know, you've got your droids and your spaceships, and I know that you get that in Star Trek, but it's like it looks like the grown up version of Star Wars. When I was kid, I was like, this looks like boring Star Wars. This looks like diplomacy. This is the exploration and works. Man, you didn't have any lazy bitch. What's going on? Yeah? What's happening? Yeah? Yeah.

Now, before we get into our review of the episode in our favorite most trivia and whatnot, we've got a few things here. So when this episode originally aired, right, the number one movie at the US box office was Dumb and Dumber. Okay. The number one song in the US Billboard charts was on Bended Knee by Boys to Men and who also had another ten spot with I'll Make Love to You, So it seems Boys to Men were right up there in nineteen ninety five was the beginning in the end? Yeah.

January eighth, ninety five was when this episode and I love how the running the spectrum of black I'm gonna get down on Bendney? Why am I? Why am I doing? Drodric Tadam, I don't know boys to Men and proposed marriage to you by the way, I'll move live to you do you? And the number one song in the UK was cutt Nyie Joe. I read next, Oh, my god. The difference on Bended Knee and Cotton

Night Joe. Oh god, I was night climbing at that stage, and you know, Cott Night Joe like a bit of a hodown on the dance floor. It was kind of ridiculous. Yeah, but you going into it, had a good time, had a few drinks, Yes, got gotten Cotton Eye Joe. Where do you come from? Where do you go? Miss? These questions will never be answered. I love that song when I was a kid, though, And the number the top of the the New

York Times bestseller list was politically Correct Bedtime Stories by James Finn Garner. I have never heard of that, I know, but January eighth, nine twenty five, that's what was number one around the world. When episode Fantastic didn't look up what was tops in Australia? Well, do people really care about Australia? We do. The other thing is I couldn't find anything on Australia. Probably not. Do you find Aria charts? I guess I could find ARI chart. Should do it? No? I do it? Next episode,

We'll do it. Yes. But yeah, Dumb and Dumbell was number one at the US box office, and it'd been number one for like five straight weeks. It was it was a different time. It was a monster. Yeah, my favorite al right, favorite moments from the episode, mister davis favorite moments, Well, I think I mentioned old mate Pat Stewart. Yes, did very very well. I was a big fan of just the opening with the plumber. Yes. I don't think I've had bad plumber experiences.

I had many bad trading experience. Well. I remember I had the guy who was trying to like change our hot water system and he's like, it's gonna be have to be done today. It's going to cost you like five grand. And what was his name? Was it Bruce or Bruce, Yes, and he was just like, no, tell me to go away. He hero Bruce, f that guy off, and I'll come and do it for two and a half or literally half the price. And I was like, holy ship, and we've had no issues with the sins. Nice

one, Bruce. I would argue that water comes through fast than it ever had before. Yeah, Bruce, Yeah, he is no stern lecture plumbing. I just love that guy. And they're filling his pipe. I could pipe. I thought that was great. Put a pan down there. I was a big fan of Lenny's secret voice, and it's a secret. Yeah. I don't know if Lenny's voice in these earlier episodes seems different to his later voice. It's more nasally, I think, yeah, which, and I don't know, I just like it a lot more. I mean,

Harry's sheer I was just got older. I guess, I guess. Yeah. You listen to his characters now and you're like, oh boy, he listened to a few voices and now I was like, bully, Yeah, but yeah, it's a secret. That's fantastic. I love to pay off with the Carl drinking the frown shut up. Also, I love that he was in the pocket a big egg. Yes, that's one of the gags that still to this day, I never quite understand the egg cancel gag.

And this is a guy and an exit running away. I really kid going I don't get this, and teenager, I'm like, I don't get this. As a thirty five field, still I get this. There's big tobacco, there's big farmer, and there's also big egg. It's just it's just a silly John Swartswater gig. It really is, it really is. But if we're going to favorite moments, we're not just talking favorite moments of the episode. There's one of my favorite Simpsons moments of all to you, and

I just love this gag so much. It is just wonderful. And it's you know, Lisa trying to word Homer up about you know, going power mad and quite a bit of Shakespeare, and it was like, beware the eyes of March. What's same as reponse? No, No, I'm sorry. That's just a perfect and I just love that so much. It's like so built up. I mean yeah, I mean it's from God. I'm probably going to misquote my Shakespeare, but I'm pretty sure it's from Macbeth.

And you know, it's a very portentous line and leads to the downfall of our titular anti hero. It's deployed. It's like why should I so yeah, I mean, that's that's one of one of my favorite Simpsons moments of all time. And honestly, it wasn't until they were sitting on the couch and I literally sort of did the fist because you mentioned that moment so many times. I guess this has met your most quoted line. It's about of

all time. It probably is. I think when Dan and I first met, you know, we started talking about the Simpsons and we may have gone It may have been the actual IDEs of March, which is like is it the first of March or the third of the Yeah, that's right, yeah, something like that. And that was that date. And I say, you're one of my favorites, this fu girl. Yeah you oh man, I just said, I teach you how to use photo shout. It doesn't make his burty? All right? What did you? What were your face?

Well you've covered both a couple of minds. But I also just love going down the slide and just a reaction. Somebody get the jaws alive? Well, is there anything more humiliated than mean caught in a tube? I went down a slide at McDonald's recently and I literally go halfway down. I was like, I'm not stuck, but it's just awkward. I like,

manoeved my way down. Your body's not little enough that it can yeah, because I had like call on my lap and I got to a point where going down I had to lay down to my back and then she just sort of got stuck in my legs and was sort of like tangled, and I was like, holy you go save yourself trying to kick her out. Yeah, so going through I'm at that point now in my life where I get to playground and I'm like, should I go in there? I should? I will I be able to get out because but I was a kid,

I was just like go for it. When I was a teenager, you go for it. Now I'm just like, I can get it, wait for it. But I assess the assess the situation. Should I be going in there? And so I hate tight spaces. So if I ever get caught in they thing like that, I just instantly have like a panic attack. I think I've discussed I discussed on my way back from England when I was on the elevator and it didn't work. The doors closed, it open,

and I just had like an instant meltdown. I was just like I didn't scream, but I was just like I could feel my heart race, So I was almost having a Have you ever had a panic attack? Yes? Yeah, terrifying. Oh yeah, you feel so helpless? Absolutely? Yeah. Yeah, I mean you've got I've been doing a bit of research on brain chemistry and all this kind of stuff lately, and I'm probably fucking

all this up. But you know you're getting something. I think it's cortisol messes with your brain as well, but yeah, you feel your heart racing and all this kind of business. Oh god, nothing worse than your just that loss of control. It's like when you're on a smaller scale when you feel your pockets and you think you've lost your phone or something, and that instant feeling of look, worrying, concerned if you feel it in your chest and then you feel it it's in the back pocket, in the relief.

But then yeah, I mean, oh god, I had that on Christmas Day. Yeah, because you couldn't find your presents. Joke, Santa no, no, I did pretty well in the present stake. I think we both put our little hauls up on the patrons page. And yes, yeah, I've got a thief and guy the record there it is with my with my collection of records. I got the Wiggles, Best of Albums, Matchbox twenty, yourself or someone like you, because we're going to see them in

a month or so for real. Yeah, nice, nice, But Lou's coming over to pick me up. We're going down to my sister's place. I'm balancing. I'd made macaroni and cheese and it was fresh out of the oven. So I'm trying to balance it on this tray. It's getting a little slightly, it started to rain. I'm trying to balance that. I've also got just an envelope with a card and a present in it for my

for my nephew. Yeah, and then the door closed behind me, and I'm like, oh, well that's fine, I didn't I didn't snip it. Oh it's snipped. Oh I'm locked out. My keys are inside. And then I get outside and I'm waiting for it, and I'm like, well, I work this out when I get home, gat back in and then footpath is slippery. I'm trying to sort of balance and honestly, the mac and cheese in the tray, it came so close and I'm like,

I can't grab this thing because it's fucking scolding hot. So I've got it, honestly got it looked like bloody he's sirked as lay or some ship. But it almost went into the fucking garden. If that had happened, what would you have done? Any thinking we'll just give it up on Christmas Day? I would have just cried. I literally would have like burst in their tears. Lou would have come to an industry with like mac and hot mac

and cheese dripping from my head and go quiss me. Luckily it all worked out me and and then well, of course Lou's got to key on my place. It's in the mid in my handbag. Don't worry about it, like this is all good. We get to talking about that. Oh yeah, because because Christmas Morning was kind of a band of the day. Luckily, the mac and cheese was big hit was a big here. Yeah yeah. He said it wasn't going to be your standard mac and cheese. It

was going to be elite mac and cheese. That sort of Yeah. I mean, I'm going to start calling this person friend of the pod. Recipe Tin Eats is a site on a YouTube channel just as sort of good basic recipes, but they've got a little bit of flair to them. And Lou's got the cookbook and I was looking on the side as one of that she does mac and cheese. It's got interesting cheeses in it and you know, not too fancy but looks pretty. I love blending cheeses. Oh it's so

exciting. She was like, you could use regular chedable. Why don't you try gru Yeah, And I'm like, oh, remember that it's stink. It's like it does stink to make but one very nice in the mouth though, yeah, yeah yeah, And like we went out from on newars E parties and Christmas parts and all these dips and stuff and all these cheese and I'm like, we're gonna have that cheese and that cheese and that cheese on the one cracker and no one's going to stop me. What's your favorite cheese?

By the way, Oh golly, I'm look, I'm a bit of a basic bitch, but like a nice came and beer or yeah, yeah, bre for me, but I forget. One of our friends went on a date and apparently she said to me, we're going out for dinner, and she says, what's your favorite cheese? And what do you think? The guy said, singles tasty. It's like tasty is great? Yeah, this when a date. You're trying to impress the girl, she says, and you can tell that she's like a kind of sewer of cheese. What's

your favorite cheese? Don't say tasty? What do we have a dinner? Sausages and veg and that could be Yeah, you could be fantastic gourmet sausages, you know, and perfectly, you know, mashed potato with truffle oil and beautiful baby peas and little potato skins in there. Oh man, that sounds really nice. That's how Marge makes it, with a little skin in the potato. I do that, do you? This doesn't do that? You just start doing that? I reckon. I always saw as a kid

that it would The gag was that it would taste bad. But no, I tasted it once at a restaurant. I'm like the skins. You're the skins now. Sadly, I am let's see how well we go this. But I am off carbs for the early years, for the immediate time being. New year, New guy, New year, new guy. I mean, I've been out, been out walking, I've got my flash new watch. How did your macis thing last? Do you do that for a while? Right? Yeah? But then I fell off the wagon. I fell

at the wagon hunt. You know, so I thought have recorded record sales a half of three twenty three. I bove you know, because you get the app, and you know you think I had some notifications off. I'm a raising it. I'm taking it off the phone because it's like, you know, if I oh and extra points, then you know I can get a free apple pie almost every time. Oh my god, what a five dollar deal for two cheeseburgers and the small meal. That sounds fantastic, just

what I need for my midnight stack. So I'm eating it, and I'm eating it late. This is no good, especially for a man my advanced dage. Yeah, but we on New Year's even not nickol and I did well, like we're gonna try and eat healthy for like to our anniversary, which is in the middle of feb right, like try and go off the major junk foods, my pizza or whatever like that. But then let's just get KFC. And I was like eleven forty five at night. I was

just getting sliders and popcorn, chicken and all this shit. And I'm just like, it's anything better than just eating shit food late at night. Oh No, there's nothing better. Oh mate, it was. It was just awesome sitting there watching the New year in is eating KFC. Why do you think I was doing it? Yeah, so yeah, but not doing that anymore? So yeah, okay, So yeah, unfortunately massed potato off the

table for the time being likewise, I much potato off the carbs. Yeah, it's all yeah, potato, potato passed and rice that's the main one. But that seems like carbs are such a big thing to just eliminate. Like for someone like me, I can go. I can do that, but like you said, once you fall off the wagon, I fall off at hard. Yes I've learnt now for me, for someone with my mentality,

I need to just reduce things. So I'm like once a week or you know, don't completely remove, because once I comp remove something, once

I allow myself to have it again, I just go hard. Well yeah, so I mean I'm looking at I mean, what I'm trying is and listeners, you may know something about this called the keto just essentially you know it's zero carbs, ero, sugar, all that kind of stuff, and yeah, heavier on the good fats, I suppose the saturated fats, a lot of a lot of green leafy vegetables, all that kind of stuff.

Like looking at it, going I can actually pull this off. I mean, you know, I can get myself a couple of nice chicken dice, marinate and put them on the grill, Like I hate chicken. THI is my healthy days like chicken thighs like bad for you. So I'm like, I hate chicken Thi's I'm away was a chicken breast. My chicken brests so expensive. Chicken dies are much the same. Yeah expensive now I think I think they used to be. Was working the dallies out like the cheap The

year is twenty twenty four. Everything is expensive looking podcasts. Be a patron. We went out to go and get I like to go sipmoking some stuff at dinner last night. Right, I bought like some some foil and some clean wrap, which just a couple of extures like that, and it's like that'd be sixty seven dollars please, And I was like what what what O look at the bus and I'm like how Yeah, it's insane. I mean I received a couple of nice gift cards from various Yeah well well in addition

to the lovely Amazon one that have you used it yet? No? No? Yeah, you get turned it into extra money. Remember that's the deal. I realized the gift came with like a disclaimer, but also got like they basically just called like the f post card or the perfect card where it's like you take it anywhere. But my mentality is like, wh do just put them cashing the card? Why go through the trouble of buying this f post card? Just money in the card money to me, I'm far more

excited. I get a fifty dollars note in my hand. I'm like, it's fifty dollars. Unfortunately cash is no longer king. I mean I did that, would lose kids. They all got. I got a nice pineapple each and yeah, exciting, it is nice. I got the Amazon gift and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but these other just

regular gift cards. You can use them just about anywhere anywhere you use their post and I'm like, I think I'm using these of the Supermarke you can can okay, yeah, because they won't let you use I tried to just after paid to their supermarket and like, oh man, for real, Yeah, they'dn't let me. Oh that sucks. I was like, I wonder if I could just after pay this. I can imagine so many people do a huge shop and it it's never paid. I think they do yeah,

or paid off on the never never y they call it. Yeah. I mean, I've got to look at my it's been a little one since I looked at my after pay thing because now I'm too scared to look at it Christmas time. I panic. I'm like, I can't do it. I know I went too crazy, and I know I just prefer to put my head in the sand. I bought a couple of things just as not even on Boxing Day sales. They had pre Boxing day Boxing day sales. You know, so I box testiles started in August, didn't they forget like Friday?

That's what suckers? Uh yeah, but no, I'm gonna have to look out a look at it and go, Okay, No, I think I can pull this up before the before the end of January or whatever, so we'll see how it goes. But I mean with some of these, I'm like, yeah, we're gonna be using these gift cards just to get stuff from the supermarket, foil and cling rap and whatever. But good luck with you, no carbs and say there we go, Thank you very much.

Yes, hopefully the audience here they'll keep you on track because you have to, you know, tell the audience I failed. I hate carbs. So this podcast will keep you keep your going. This is the account you're gonna be all my accountability buddies. So we're gonna what we're gonna be doing at the start of every podcast going forward. We're gonna have a carb counter and you're gonna tell us how many carbs you've can chew. Well, that's the thing I mean. On my fancy new Samsung Galaxy Watch, gifted me

by the lovely Louise. Yeah, it does all manner of things which I have yet to install right now. I just tell the time on it and occasionally use the stop watch and also the stress meter. I love that the watches. They can do anything. It's like, tell me the time and stop watch that's all I need. I can change my what I'm listening to on YouTube music or something like that. But it does have a stress meter, and the first few times I was used like you're in the red I'm

like the what I'm sitting here jacket? They're increasing these stresses all right, trivia time, mister Davis. But of course it means we also need to what a fitting episode. Holy, that's very appropriate. What a way to start tweage twenty four by reading that the names of our incredible top tier supporters,

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let's do it. Let's do it sometime this month. I think this year what we're going to be doing is just tackling shows that we haven't tackled. Before. Yeah, we'll do a few stand alone and based on your response, we may move forward, or we may just throw it on the heap. Yeah, well one should I'd like to start doing. And we've said this before, is just revealing, like the pilot episode of a show.

Yes, like just you know, once a month, we'll just go and find a pilot of a classic fresh Prince bal Air from the Sun or thirty Rock or anything like that, just review the pilot. Scrubs, Scrubs. I've never said I've never watched Scrubs. Now I believe it's on Disney Plus. I think, yeah, yeah, great themes on the themes song, Oh yeah, good show. I was really into Scrubs for a very long time. I remember when I was in high school, my friends were either

obsessed with Scrubs or they've never seen it. It's like it wasn't just like you were just like a casual view, like either love Scrubs or you just never saw it. Clearly son of a good show, Yes, exactly right. This podcast is brought to you by Patreon dot com Slash four Finger Discount, home to all of our exclusive shows, including Tales of Futurama, Talking Seinfeld Speaking of the Hill, the movie Guys, and so much more.

Plus you also get a whole range of cromulent goodies that are short term and beg in your life. So go ahead and support the show today by joining the four Finger Discount family on Patreon. Next question, you there eating the Beast. My first question for you, mister Davis, is this, how many people were already on Homer's lists before he added stern lecture plumbing, So I would have had to slow it down and count the more. Well I didn't do that, but I'm going to say twenty three. No, so

we had the bill of rights Grandpa. Now it was written Grandpa, right, and normally Grandpa has written Grandpa in the Simpsons is really weird like over them. Yeah, but it was written gr n Dpa, fat free Land Gravity, Emmy's Darwin love this throwback here the Hastree wol the water slide that you got stack. Oh yes, yeah, a little bit of a call back there, Billy Crystal. There goes one of my trigger questions. Oh okay, God Sola flex the boy. Oh so eleven yes, and twelve

was stern lecture? Okay? Then well cross that question of my list, which former Oscar host was on Homer's revenge list Krystal instead. What is Lenny's license plate number? Oh, I've got that as well. It is h A two nine EAG. That is correct. Well done, you you get a point. Who did Homer stalk for digging up his garden? Oh, Charles Carrolt, Yes, somebody did something? Did I mentioned ribs earlier? Which anniversary of the stonecutters are they celebrating with the devouring of ribs? It's

like fifteen hundredths or something. It is indeed the fifteen hundred Yeah. What was the last name of the other Homer who was allowed into the club? Damn it? I wanted to I wanted to rewind and check this out because that was a great little callback. Yeah it was. That was a really good gag. I want I want to say glumpkin, but that glumplet yeah, polto yeah, globe lit. Except that sounded a bit too much like blunkin' don't urban dictionary that. Oh, okay, I won't do that.

I don't know what that means. Should I not do it? It's sounds a bit gruss Okay, Mmm, what type of monkeys are hanging with Homer? Very end? It starts with C, doesn't it. It does color colone. Now, what is that colobus? Colobus? I canna say colonial? It's a colonial. What number is mister Burns? Mister Burns is number twenty nine, Lennin Carl we're fourteen fifteen, right, Carl was twelve,

Lenny was fourteen fourteen twelve. Okay, and my last question for you, it's pretty obvious, but name the four international members or four main members? Shit, nah, you've got me. I remember. George Bush is the one that's like he's like the one that sort of like level headed, is like, how man, we just see Yeah this first literally know two seasons later, no, no, the next season he's going to be moving across the road from the Homer correct having a fight. Now, who are the

other ones? I can't remember? Okay, George Bush Senior, Yeah, George H. W. Bush. You got mister T. That's mister T. Yeah, Jack Nicholson, and I'm assuming this is all Reddenbucker, the popcorn magnate. Okay. There was one who I was just like, I don't know who you are, but obviously somebody Yeah, that's Awvil. I'm pretty sure it was very Swartzworlder of this episode in the sense of that some of the references, like Charles was a child's it's like kids will never get

that. And then as an adult thirty five, I still don't really know. I have to look it up, but it's like, but that's very Swartsworlder. That's the thing. He's he's either a news anchor or a news reporter in the US. Yeah, he used to be like a news reporter. Yeah yeah, yeah, but it's just very he loves his old timey

references. Yeah yeah. But the actual story for this episode came about when when David Merkin was driving home from a rewrite they were doing and he heard a religious radio show without talking about freemasonry, and he was like, I don't have the time to do this, but who's the perfect person to write this? Sworts what another? And you watch it knowing that Swartzwater wrote it, and you're like, I can really see this now. He has a real sort of like no, how would you of what his style? Like

I said, he loves his old timey stuff. He loves his gags that don't like the egg gag for example, Yeah, that's a swat spot. I guess you could almost say it's a cod O'Brien kind of gag as well. It's kind of yeah, esoteric, a little unusual. Yeah, sort of the joke is that it doesn't make sense. It's like, if you get it, you get it. Yeah, But I think he's also enough of a comedy technician that he'll design the lines that you know, it's funny

even if you don't know the reference. Yeah. That's what I love about these Simpsons compared to like Season eighteen, is that they don't doumb it down for you. Yeah, It's like they just they expect you to know what they're going for, and if you don't, too bad, you have to look at yourself. I mean, they could easily replace a name that you don't necessarily know or a reference that you wouldn't necessarily immediately get, but the gag surrounding it is strong enough that you'll go, oh, this is a

gag, you know. And of course you've got Dan and Julian all these other people sort of at the peak of the well they not the peak of their powers, but you know, they're they're really good comedy performers as well. They know how to put the right spin on it, so yeah, even go, well somebody had something, did something. Just even adding that bit to it, it's kind of like, Okay, we know that Homer is kind of like a stalker and a conspiracy theorist. He's it bleeds into

the story as well. You know he's going to be of course, he's going to be wanted to be part of this secret group. Well, Hope was the perfect candidate for this story. Well yeah, well, and I like the way they sort of said up at the start as well. And then you know, he never got to be part of a club. You know, no one wants him to be part of their club. Why don't

people like me? Why doesn't Why doesn't anybody want me around? And you know, it's having forever and it's got it's got multiple build ups, and it's got a lovely payoff at the end because you know, you know, you get wholesomeness and the Simpsons who would I who knew? Who saw that coming? I mean, but that's a really really just a sweet payoff, A lovely one, isn't it. I thing that you don't really see coming.

Yeah, And like the fact that that's where because they plan the seats for that ending throughout the entire episode, but still it sort of still catches you off guards. And the other thing is, I mean, we've been talking a lot about teen episode, well episodes of the teenage years for the sentence and how they'll go for this kind of ending where it's like we love you and you know you're you know, you're part of this team and all

this kind of stuff. Invariably in the in the lead up to that, throughout the episode, Home has done shit to know, yeh, fuck up his family or insult or disregard or disrespect Marge or whatever. This isn't that. No, No, I mean he's not. He's not a bad guy. Throughout this episode, he means he just gets a bit drunk on power and realizes that, oh, it's not doing anything for me, you know. He's not like, well, I've got a real family now in the

Stone Gutters, I don't need you. I mean, event if he did that, yeah, it would be horrible, Like eighteen he would do that, Yeah, yeah, I mean he would choose them over his family. He would Yeah, yeah, I've got to I've got a real family, people who really respect me and all this kind of stuff. And he he clearly loves his family in this one. And but the ending though that sometimes in season eighteen and whatnot, They'll give you that nice moment and I'll suck

it up with some stupid gag at the end. This one he had that had a moment, but it wasn't stupid. No, all right, that's Lisa's turned. I think marg you're going to say stop, that's enough, No, Lis, that that's backs great paddling as well. That's great Simpsons. And it's like it's sentimental and it's earned it, but it's also we're a bit we're a bit cheeky about the family dynamic. We also recognize that sometimes it can be dysfunctional and fucked up. It's actually my favorite moments.

I just love how much Bart was given it taking this opportunity. Plus we mentioned it earlier as well, also missed my favorite moments and going outside to stock. The visual of the stock like is in his head is like this is working. Yes, I need I need a ye, it's a different word for no, just your storm. It works is stock. My final question for you is what is the hand that Homer has According to Carl in Poker, Oh yeah, it's the royal Samplo. Yes, yeah, that's

why I haven't realizes. Oh this isn't as good as a cracked up to be. Yeah. All right, So the original air day of Homer the Great was January eighth, nineteen ninety five, written by as we said, John Swartzwolder and directed by Jim Read and guest Iron Patrick Stewart. Chot board gag chot board gags. Yeah, I know, back adding just kidding doesn't make it okay to insult the principle and the cash gag is the living room is modeled after mc ashes eshes is it esher esha? Yeah, relativity.

So the episode kicks off with stern lecture plumbing, I told you not to flush that. I love here. I don't think they do it anymore, but it used to be whenever they would go into the basement, you would see the big giant head that mister Burns gave but from the blood feud. I think it was where it donates blood and save mister Burns. They don't do it anymore, but it was always nice that they had that little call back every time lay the basement. It's like because it's like, what did

the family do with their head? They put it into the basement. How they get into the basement, you know, but it's there, But then how do they get it out shoulder anymore? Who knows? But yeah, so he's basically no help at all in right of me of the guy who just wanted to sum me up a river and the cats down there she's swimming around. It's going to take them two to three weeks with the past to

arrive. As he said, if I owed him today, which I won't, it call the very nineties thing, by the way, I know, right, tell him to put a pan down there. It didn't work. Then Homer is stuck in a traffic jam, and yeah, I'm terrible traffic jams. I hate traffic jams. I know I'm part of the problem by being in the traffic jam. Yeah, just still you feel like the only one is what are you guys doing? I need to get here? If we all just drove really quickly, yeah, get to where we needed to

go. That's going on. But there's an accident. Who caused the accident, it's your man, It is only pie no longer in the sky. Yeah, but they're always happy to the arney pie. But although this he was relatively even tempered as the usual times we see him. Homer has then parked directly behind the house. Now this is one of those gags where I feel like, if this happened in season eighteen, I'd like grill it for

continuity. But there's maybe the more I go back and reviews at these old ones, I'm like, Oh, they've been doing this ship since day dot. Yeah, you know, it's like, ah, maybe I should just go with something sometimes. But the Linear and car they've got great parks right next to the power plants. Hey, how come you guys got such great parking places. It's a secret shut up home. And then breaks his stool.

I like, this can save budget stool, factory sec. So he's not only got the budget stall, he's got the he's got the what do you call it, the factory sec, the shoddy one here, the runt of the art of the litter. But he's that's it. You've made the list. And Linear and Carbo have good chairs. And then we get the first glimpse at the stonecutter slash logo slash ring when they put the ring into

the into the coal machine. That's right, Hey, you guys want to go balling tonight, what Betsy, Yeah, we got things to dope, Like what it's a secret? Shut up now. This took me back. So a dinner now and home is annoyed. You know, he says on Wednesday night, they're always doing something, says the Conspiracy. Wednesday Night for

me growing up was bowling night. Oh for my dad. My dad used to be in an inner league team, and every Wednesday night we'd go watch my dad and my uncle Darren, and they'd always get like a third guy from where they worked. It was like one year it was a guy called Chad, next year is a guy called Scottie. And every time they're just like this guy can't do it anymore, that they'd bail out, but like

they would win the tournament. And I'm like the very few times when I was a kid, I looked after my dad and be like wow, Like I used to watch a bowl and I'm like, I got three strikes in a row. That's fine. I mean, not that weird necessarily make fun of bowling, but you know it's like, well, that's a that's a game, not a sport. Noting like that, but watching someone who's really

good at bowling, that's d I love watching bowling. It's one of those sports that I just loved a lot of darts, Yeah, just like when they get right into it, but like when the with the with the striking, the bowling ride. I love when you look at the guy for a gutter ball and that last minute it's like, yeah, how do you do that? Are you some fucking master of physics? Yeah? I guess at the end and goes strike and you're like, how did you make a spin

at the end? And I think I think a lot of these of course, yeah, of course women can do dots and bullying, but generally it's you see dudes doing it, or maybe I'm just watching dudes do it. But the things that the things that really leap out at me when yeah, I'll see footage of it, is that you know, they realize, oh, maybe people aren't taking this seriously, and they get like a real sort of bragadocio as a result, they get really cocky, they really showman Like

one of my favorite but dants is very much character driven. Darts is extremely It was like there was some guy he's like a big fat brett, yeah you know, and he's sort of lining up and he's He's like, he's a fucking assess. I know the guy. You mean, he's the best in the world, basically. I don't know if I hope it is, but he says, you know, before he throws the day, he's like, who's in charge? Me or a devil? I reckon it's me. I think it's probably Peter Wright or Phil Taylor, Phil Taylor. I'm not

sure the guy, but my dad loves those guys. But he looked like someone who like redirect his mail to the pub. Yeah, because that's where he lives. Yeah. Yeah, but they are gods in that room. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it was like looking like Steve like pick Stephen Sagol or something. He's like, oh god, I'm not talking about that. Steven's talking about under siege. Yeah, I'm talking about above the law here, just like, oh my god, don't mess with this guy.

Yeah. Yeah, it's just they're so cocky, but they're probably just lovely people. They're playing it. They're playing it because there's always a heal in a baby face. That's right. Yeah, it's both proby wrestling. We've talked about The Iron Four, haven't we that movie? The I haven't watched it yet, but yeah, but apparently it's just fucking like so depressing. I was reading a bit about the Van Erkson just like, oh my

god, yeah that story. I've watched the actual documentary about them that the WW put out years and years ago, and it's just like, oh, man, yeah, not sure them up for this. No, but that on aw a couple of weeks ago in their hometown, and a couple of the a W wrestlers are actually in the movie. It's like, a, yeah, the story is just too sad for this podcast. Let's not talk

about it. Let's let's move on to It was funny Ship, which is home of the great But yeah, so Homer basically thinks it a conspiracy and bar suggests they could be part of the Kennedy assassination. I thought this is gonna be the moment where he's like, I was just subscribed to your newsletter. But it wasn't. I thought that was this moment here. But Marche, there's no more stalking. I mentioned Corrol, Well something did. I don't want you stalking anyone tonight. Oh okay, it your own way,

March. I'll be back in a minute. I'm going outside too, stuck Lenny and Carl. On paper, this probably wouldn't read funny, but Dan saying to Stock, that's what just makes it that that hits it home. But then, how clever was this? The Yellow drip Road was not a bad move. And it's one of those moments where he's like, it looks like he's barking up the Rahm bush, Like you know, he has a

funny one line. I'm very rarely has funny one liners like that, but yeah, perfectly follow the Yellow Drip Road and eventually finds as when he refers to it their secret hiding place. Even as he's walking in, Homer tries to enter, and it's very much like Grandpa entering the Burl Scouts. That's one of my favorite gifts of all time. Oh yeah, straight, like realizing there's some dreadful no winner given somewhere and lie that nope, walking walk

but he's on the roof. He thinks he's going to get away with it. They don't know, they're none the wiser, and it shatters and he falls in. I love this. There's like you must pay the ultimate price, Yes, the ultimate price, get out of here. Yeah, it's just throwing it Alecan drunk. Yeah, but I just love the Hibbitt Moe Skinner Wigham home and all hanging out and it's like, oh this is this

is different. But now Homer he barges into the tea room and Lenny and Carla and he says he saw some some weird, strange, sick, twisted, eerie Guila's evil stuff and he wants in it. And Lenny then let's as sleep and oh, you can't be this stone Cutters. It's too exclusive.

That's a nice secret organization we had once. There's any two ways of game membership, which were can you remember, Ah, yeah, you have to either save well be the sun of a stone cutter, or save the life of a stone cutter, which tries to do He tries to do. Yes, that could have killed you by cholesterol, as Lennie said, not yet proven conclusively that they actually raise a level of serram cholesterol in human bloodstream. And the A cancel creep got to him too, A gig, a

gag. When I was the kid, I was like, I guess it is FURNI an egg, but I just never I never quite got it. I think it's one of those things where have I put it on the page right now. And why the only one that was confused by this. I've got to everyone as a kid was confused by this gig. We'll feel free to do that. Put something up on the page. I did a thing I noticed here that I've never noticed before was Lenny waving him off. I never noticed Lenny do in the way now, Homer, But no, I'm

in bed and Hobad just wants to know why nobody likes him. Oh, yeah, everyone likes You're a great person. Well they're stupid idiots. Don't let mean their crapit club for jokes. Then we get the flashback of the no Homer's club, And as you were saying earlier, it's a nice setup to explain why Hommer would feel this way, or he's always felt like he's been left out. Hey Balie, Hey jolly, come on in. There's platy of room. Sorry that you, Hober ain't it? But you letting

Homer Clumplet look it has no home burds. We're allowed to have one. They felt so left joke. Kids can be so cruel. We care face more. That's basically been my life for the last two weeks, except it's been wholly hitting Elliott. Oh my god, Oh my god. Sometimes I just like, I just grow a set and punch your back. Mate. I'm just like, She's like, Dad, like what he's touching me. I'm like, we'll just move. She's she's following me. I'm like, oh my Holly, okay Dad. A minute later, Dad, I'm like,

oh my god. Children. Then I said, I see the meme Cherish moments, Cherish moments. One day they won't be hitting each other. Precious memories. Wants to get into the club, but he know it's absolutely nothing about them, and then Grandpa keeps trying to say I'm a member. I'm not listening to him, and Bart says, remember their self. Hypnosis classes even done done hypnosis before. Have you ever done it? No?

I never have. I've always been too scared because I'm like, my brain says that it's all fake, right, But like I feel like if I do it, and I realized that I'm actually hypnotized, my whole world. But just that you get when we're done recording this episode, which may take a very long time. We're enjoying talking, but we're going to be recording an episode of Going down to South Park. Yeah, as we said that tooth fairy Tat's two thousand, where Kyle has his first existential crunch, says,

I imagine, Yeah, every kid who watched the Matrix. Yeah, I don't trust my brain enough that if someone started messing around with it, or like I'm going to turn a key in there, It's like, no, you don't want to do that, because I've been piling a lot of stuff behind that door. I don't want it out. Yeah. Yeah, it's like my back once I went to that was it the chiropractor? I

think it was once he tracks my back once. My back's ever been the same in a bad way, in a bad way, repeat business exactly right. Oh, you're going to need me to fix that at least once a week. Yeah. Num by the Sclen Cottage, Grandpa, Oh sure, let's see. I'm an elk a mationon a communist owned the president of the Gain Lesbian Alliance for some reason. Ah, here it is dust stone cutters. This is it? Wait, chicken in they have to let me join

if I miss done of a member. Oh take this communist one too, Hope. Then arrives with Grandpa basically uses him saying the I'm a son of a member. He gonna let me in and say okay, and he says he's going to be initiated when number one gets here and he mocks number one. It's not very much Season eighteen Homer a bit. Yeah, I mean yeah, he's been doing a lot of ooh. So it's usually like saying you're fruity. It's usually these days, isn't it. Yeah? But they

call each other by their number here and they outreped mister Burns. That's it, might he claim the ladder. And then number one arrives and is the arrival of Patrick Stewart. And of course Patricks Drewitt was referred to as number one on the Star Treks and Next Generation, or he wasn't it was the other way around. He called his Did he call Ryker number one? I thought he called Richer number one? Hang on, I could be wrong here.

I could be wrong here. Like I think I said at the very start, I should start watching Star Trek the Next Generation, And here I am of saying, and this is what they say on DNG. The name of Stewart's character is the reference to his series Stature Generation, which at the time had recently ended a seventy year one in which number one is a nickname used by Captain him Patrick shoot Captain Pericard for his first officer, William t

Ryker. Oh okay, we could easily erase all that and make it sound like a chump, or we could keep it and people would realize that guys indeed fallible. Would you like to redo it? No, No, I'm happy to keep it. This is part of my thing for twenty twenty four. It's like own your mistakes. Yes, that's the thing that don't try and high But that's why I love I want to start doing this show live where people can listen to us doing the show. Locals like, what's this

live? Did you fuck up? You meant to do it? Yes, but we'd get canceled. That's true. But basically this is where moe plants are seed for the chosen one. Nice little teas there and he has to do the leap of faith, the five story plunge, which turns out to actually be a five story plange to do it again. My blindfold came off of what a great gag. Then crossing the desert, the Unblinking Eye, the wreck of the Hesperus, the paddling of the swollen ass. I know,

smacking someone in the ass. I would never hit my kids, right, but you see people get hitting on the ass of the paddle. I was never hitter either. It must fucking be so painful because sometimes you sit on a bike for too long you get up in your ashes, like, absolutely, is this caning? But imagine getting smacked with a paddle on the ass? No thanks? Did you ever get smacked? Yes? Absolutely, wow, we did, Like I can't imagine, not by my folks.

I don't recall I was at school, that's right, Yeah, because you did get strap around the wrist there, never got it on the maybe once on the wrist, like they got the cane on the fingers. And I'm like, I can't believe that was the thing. I can't blame nuts. That's crazy, right, And you go to school and get caned, Yeah, that's mental. That is kind of medieval. Yeah. By the time I was at school, I mean, they still had corporate punishment, but

it wasn't quite as extreme as it used to be. And yeah, certainly in certain schools they let you know whose boss. But allowing someone else to hit your child, this is not not in a million years while down there, Oh, I used to go it in loco parentis you know, where whereby the teacher had could assume the role of the parent. And by this sacred parchment, I swear that if I revealed the secrets to the stonecutters, may my stomach become loaded and my head be plucked up All but three years.

I think you should have to take a different oath. Everyone takes the same oath. Welcome to the club number nine hundred and eight. You have joined the sacred order of the stone Cutters, who, since ancient times have split the rocks of ignorance that obscure the light of knowledge and truth. Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong's. That's that's great Swartz world as

well. It's great writing that, you know. I mean it sounds like, oh, well, the stone cutters actually probably had noble ambitions to begin with, and it just degenerated into a boy's fraternity. Yeah, were you part of a frat at school? Uh? No, not really? I mean, does astray really have frets? The sound? Only you were too at the private school. I thought maybe at private school they might No, no, no, no, I mean certainly, I mean just add clicks

of like they had the cool kids. Yeah yeah, but nothing really cool official. If there was something official, it was so you know, exclusive that I didn't even hear about it. The plumber then says, it's still going to be a couple of weeks. They do the secret handshake and fixes it immediately, just one scroup. Also, they just wearing T shirts. Yes, that's right. Yeah, he gets the shortcut to work. Now.

I would love the shortcut. How amazing would that be? It's just like, I mean, we look at these you were saying earlier, start like, we look at these secret societies and these rich privilege. Its like, but if you were in there, how amazing would it be? Like if you had the power, you'd be like, look at these peasants. It's kind of like when you buy a drop the Q card at like amusement

park. It's like, well, that's funny. I mean, we're living in a very inclusive age where you know, exclusive is kind of like why don't you want everybody to be part of your of your wonderful team or whatever, because it's important to strive to be better than everybody else. But I mean I remember and you probably do to I mean, I think it was an American Express. I had their Their tagline was like membership has its privileges. It's like, okah, does you want to hear talking sci fi?

Motherfucker? But it's fine. I mean, I was. I was watching some documentary on Netflix. I think it was about you know, Abercrombie and Fitch, the clothing label that's very preppy and all that kind of stuff, and they had all these people going, yeah, they were really selling this whole exclusive thing, and I didn't feel like part of It's like, do you not know how marketing works since day dot? If you've made it like

this is not for everybody, but it could be for you. You know, you could be part of this, of this inner circle provided you buy this, you know, three hundred dollars fucking sweatshirt or whatever. This is how is how you get sold shit everywhere you go to buy something out you part Join the club, Join the club, Join the club, Join the JB Perks Club, join this absolutely, or even if it's not even necessarily join a particular club. I mean, just watching that for pepsi or coke

or whatever. It's like these guys are all having a great time, you know, they're eating that delicious looking pizza and they are all laughing. It's a beautiful ladies. Just love them. And guess what, you know you can have that too if your order a pepsi. Yeah. And you never see fat people that to take away fast food like ad So it's just like hot people pretending to eat this giant bag and they always eat it weird.

Never they eat burgers and commercials. They're holding two hands and they bring it like towards them yet and a get it. And it's like I'm holding this with like my index thing and my thumb and these guys couldn't hold it with two hands. Is there anything? There is plenty thing more disappointing. But how disappointing is it when you go to a fast food place and you order I don't off the menu and you get home and it's like this was just

slapped together with no love at all. Oh yeah, looking back in my McDonald's days, like last year, last week, I was last week? Actually, no, no, when was the last time I had it? It was, well, it was a few weeks ago. But I was noticing because I'm the kind of guy who will open up his called pand with cheese and like sneak sneaker your fries and there oh really, oh yeah that

worth it. It's pretty tasty, okay, but it's like this has the quarter pound of patty and it has the cheese, but where's the where's the sauce. They're gonna a bit, you know, not too heavy on the sauce and make us ketchup taste different. It does. It does. So when I was like, it might be time for us to say goodbye until they they will getch you back somehow. They will not you know how they

got me back. How they get points are nearly expiring. If you don't come back, your points that you spent all this money and they're going to expire. And I'm like, ah, ship one last cheese worker, It'll be yeah, no, I will not go back. There's where Homer is. Basically he's got the shortcut to work. You know, you get all the exclusive stuff. But still he has the park in the same parking space. He got the roll, but glide to himself to work to the front

door. He's got his new chair. Jealous, Well, no, with the exact yeah it is. Then they give me secret membership pack and it's got the sticker for getting no tickets. I think it was they get my tickets. This the paramedics won't steal your wallet when telling you. And also here's the new number. Don't call nine one anymore. He's the real number nine one two. How many people do you think tried to call that? After this episode? God Homer is reading secret world history, so he's now

becoming conspiracy theories. Basically, he's just buying into their their fake history. Lisa doesn't think that the Founding fathers were stonecutters. Here's what really happened at something the Declaration of Independence they're going to part ofock Twas seventeen ninety nine. And also here's how David Crockett really died. Must be a margin, says I love this. The you know who just cold with the secret wink wink at the you know What. It's like the most unsecret secret club of all

time. But then we get the of course the we Do song, which apparently wasn't in the original script for Matt Groening requests that it get put in there, and it got nominated for Most Outstanding Original Lyrics or something I did have in my notes somewhere. It was not for them, I mean for most outstanding original music lyrics, and it lost to Ordinary Miracles from Bubba Streisan, the concept which I do not know. I could not say, I

could not sing lyric one of Ordinary Miracles. If you put a loaded gun to my head, Please don't put a loaded gun to my head. Did Steve Guttenberg deserve this? My only role that I know him of. The then role I know him from is short Circuit. Okay, love Circuit. He's a little bit of do do eighties history. Yeah, yeah, I mean Steve good move was sort of on the rise as a pure likable young leading man. He was in a few good movies and all that kind of

stuff. Then around eighty four is in Police Academy, which was a big hit. Of course. Yes, yeah, so he's a lead in that, and it was like, oh yeah, he's a handsome, affable, well built, likable guy, not threatening in any way. He's very much you know, he'd be on the cover of one of Lisa's teen magazines, non threatening stars or whatever. And then he had a really good run of just like choosing or being chosen four movies that just did really well that weren't

necessarily good. Agent good agent, I guess, because I mean he was in Cocoon, which was a huge hit, Short Circuit, The Three Men and a Baby, and he was in a few Police Academy movies as well, So he was just in the public eye constantly, and everyone was kind of like, I don't really know any Steve Gutenberg fans, But at the

same time, I don't know, he's not hurting anybody. He just seemed like a really goofy, likable guy, and that was what you needed in eighties, you know, sort of high concepts comedies and rom coms and you know, genre movies. So he was the perfect candidate for this game then pretty much who made him a start? I love the way he just sort of goes. I mean, and I think by this time, this is the year. So they're doing this in ninety four. Yeah, I mean,

the bloom's coming off the rose a little bit. He's still doing stuff, but he's not that young hottie anymore. No, not really. But yeah, it's purely understand and I'll probably fit it's nicely into the rhyme scheme as well. Look, as far as I'm gonna tell, he's still acting. Every once in a while he was on it. I can't see you for so long. I get the feeling he probably is getting nice residuals from all the hit movies he was in, hopefully invested his money wise, then

he still pops up and stuff every once in a while. There's a great show called Party Down. You ever heard of that. No, it's about this crew of like cater waiters, you know. They they all work at sort of various events around LA and they're all like, would be right as actors all this kind of stuff. And one episode they're doing a catered party at Steve Gutenberg's house and they get the all the guests get the day wrong

and no one shows up. So the crew just sort of ends up hanging out with Steve Gutenberg and like he's cool, but he's also like, you know, I'm Steve Gutenberg, right and you know, and check out my place. And he's got a bit of an ego and him still thinks he can sort of, you know, attract the hottie and the crew and all that kind of stuff. It was playing it up, yeah, and it was a really good sort of tongue in cheek. Yeah. Look, I

know that people think I'm a little bit of a gag. But also, you know, people did like me for a very long time and probably for a good reason, remember when. Yeah, pretty much. So, I mean, if you go back and you look at these movies from the eighties been particularly yeah, Police Academy and I mean Police Academy has not aged well

at all. Really, Oh, it's got a lot of just those really sort of dumb I'm not trying to excuse anything, but casually racist, casually sexist, dumbly offensive, not necessarily going for the throat kind of gigs, but just like that's a bit sort of racy or whatever. I mean, Yeah, I get the Field Simpsons two thousand and six, but he's you know, he's very very charming. You know, he's incredibly charming in Cocun.

Just you know, a nice, likable guy. So yeah, I did Tom Haykstakey's spot I Reckon. So yeah, it's like, oh, we've got a guy who can do this and act. But yeah, but you actually put a bit of a bit of a curve on it, and yeah, you're right. Act. I mean it's like I've said this before, It's like, why are we putting up with Lindsay Low And when we've

got Emma Stone who can do all this and more. Yeah, you respect them, Lindsay Lowan, Sorry, you know, but I mean I remember when you know, super Bad came out and then the emmastone sort of broke out. I'm like, oh okay, yeah, yeah, no, I was in love with her when that movie came out, justifiably so. But they're commemorating their fifteen hundredth anniversary by having ribs. How many? It's a

bib. He doesn't embarrass some stuff. Oh, by the way, just one other thing about the We Do song, I mean, yeah, something that really works about it. Besides the fact that it's catchy and you know, you can do everyone can sing along to that, it just points out so many things that it was like, why is this the case? I mean, like we were talking about Steve Good. Yeah. But also it's like America just take on the metric system. Why did the meme? I

put up no which ones meme? Yeah, not metric system. But it's the dates. So they did the dates differently. Oh that's right. Yeah, it's like it's it's one two three one two three. No I think it was. No, it doesn't. But this is the thing I was getting so many inboxes from people saying you should have put the tag ont have a saying no, it doesn't because I was otherwise you can't understand it. And I was like, I have enough faith in my followers to get the

gag without dumbing it down for them. Yes, we're we're not the Simpsons. Yeah, but I mean, like I was one day I was in America. It's like, I can't see. I'm to do the maths of like, okay, so we're going twenty five miles an hour, that's so's okay, it's a hundred degrees outside. What the fuck? I've never leave the house. I was a kid the Sandlot and this one point, like it's one hundred and fifty degrees outside, I'm like, yeah, how are

you not dead? Yeah? The world explode. But yeah, it's just it doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, but stuff like that with America. Of course, all due respect and love to American friends, but I mean, yeah, last time was there was like, okay, so this is the price of this snikets. Yeah, in the supermarket, put a tax in the price, tax in the price. I was infuriated. I had like a one dollar note or whatever, it was I was enough to buy this chocolate and he was like, it was a dollar six and I

was like, I don't have a dollar six. I've got a dollar that's it's like ninety cents. He's like, but attack and I was like, no, no, no, that's not it. And particularly if you've got, you know, your last few bits of actual American money, it's like, well, I don't want to put this in the charity been at the

airport. I want to spend on this stickers. And then the guy there bagging my grosses into a garb into a paper bag next to the guy that's putting it through, and I'm expected to give him money, and I'm like, huh, that's your job. That's your job, mister walters the employers. Yeah, but yeah, so he needs to beer and he grabs the sacred parchment and he just keeps going, doesn't he. That's that's great, Len, he's just fubber gasses. Woman. No, you can stop doing

that. Oh Jesus, oh god, yeah, putting in his ear like I was fantas Yeah, so he gets kicked out, even the stone cut of underwear. Now you like this reference, won't you? Indeed? Yes, because they burn it in the Ark of the Covenant. Yes, and all the ghosts come I was always like, from Indiana Jones, by the way, for those other way from Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost. Yeah, I do love how the ghost come out. I was always thinking, is it because of is it the arc or is it because Homer's

underpants it is grist? I think it's both. Yeah, yeah, but they you know, I've learned my lesson. He keeps banging on it. And they touched the stone of shame. Good the mark. Oh, it's just a birthmark. And I'll thank you not to stare. He's stacked chosen one. You are the chosen one whom the Sacred Parchment prophesied would lead us to glory. Now from the top of Mom's springfield for the coronation, Remove the stone of Shame, attach the stone of triumph. This is the thing

though, I'm watching this going. So this came out nine to ninety five, and the movie Up came out, and I want to say, like two thousand and nine, two thousand and eight, right, and in that movie they put the cone of Shame on the dog. I'm like, rhymes of stone of shame cone of shame. So I wonder if that was just their little way of er they shout out a tribute, tribute or just or

just the theft, got the straight up theft. But we always say to Jet when he used to be naughty, he used to have the cone, said when he was like, have an operation so it doesn't nibble the wound or whatever, And like, Jet, you want the kind of shame. He's like, I don't. I don't want the shame. I would be good. But Homer's now enjoying being the chosen one. This is apparently another reference. It is indeed, this is where he runs out and or justeah

before the crowd of all these people. Yeah, that's a bit from a movie called The Last Emperor, came out in nineteen eighty seven. I think it one best picture. And yeah, I mean that image of the little boy because it's the story of the last Emperor of China before China became all communist, and yeah, this little boy was, yeah, basically put into this huge position of power as a literal child, and he sort of runs out in front of all these people who were basically bowing to him, and

he's sort of playing back to the crowd. I don't know if I was just at the right age or if it really was shown a lot in like, you know, as examples of Hollywood culture around in the late eighties or whatever. But yeah, it's always on TV. Wizard of Oz was always on TV. It's an image that's really vivid in my mind, and it sort of exemplifies the late eighties to me. Just yeah, little boy read big red curtains running into this crowd. Yeah, from the Last Emperor.

I love here that when I was like, meant to note, never do this. It would be amazing to had this kind of power. Though Oh goodness, yea, it makes people bow down all the time. But so he's enjoying beak, being that the chosen on getting paid on the couch, like he said, Oh god, and we get your favorite moment. Well, we know Lisa's trying to word him up. She's clearly pretty clever about

you know, the perils of power. Tries to throw a little Shakespeare's way, but no. Homo suggests get a bunch of monkeys ressed up and renat the Civil War, which we get at the end. Almost Then he suggests that he should use his resources to help others, and then he and it's a home. It does here he goes, and we should do this. He's got mad with power like that, which guy Schweitzer? That's yeah, I mean, oh another reference with kids. You're like what, Yeah.

And the more the more they learn about Albert Schweitz was like, yeah, this guy may have seemed like he was doing some good things, he was also terribly terribly racist. Then the Stonecutter's Daycare Center license pending grand opening, Moe get stuck on the slide, get the jaws of life burns. He's having a little feed with the kid on the swing. You feel the little urchin. And they paint the building a beautiful sky blue. And the graffiti

was just all different version of the word graffiti. I did say graffiti by graffiti and I saw an albato on there? Or was there only of usat the word graffiti, different different fonts. Yeah. The helicopter crashes home and then says he's now spiritually fulfilled. It's beginning of a better world for all of us. Cuts the moat. We gotta kill him. And then they go to the stone Cutter World Council before they act irrationally, and they always

say killing. What does George would suggest that take his voice? Bucks, But as long as their stone cutters, he's going to control our lives. And then cut to wait a minute, Baskin Robbins is now an abandoned store and it's the ancient mystic society of no Hommers. What a callback. You can't just keep hanging out with these globus monkeys. Somebody's going to get Paris nights. Oh, merge, kids, I missed my club. You know

you are a member of a very exclusive club, the Black Panthers. No, the Family Simpson, which has just five members, and only two of those members have special rings. Yeah, I meant our wedding rings, you know, Marge, You're right. The Simpson family is the best possible club I could belong to. This club better be worth it, all right,

all right, it's Leasa's term. Just a great heart felt ending, it isn't it, which felt somewhat rushed, But then and then it also wasn't He went from Homber being in charge to having nothing within aspects of like naughety seconds. That's for the third acted felt like it had regular first act,

long second act, condensed third act. Yeah, but got everything we needed to, yeah, to get gave us everything we wanted, and you go to the very end, you get the gracing, and you do here Carl saying shut up, Oh really, you do stick around for the gracing. You never picked up on that one. A nice little hidden gill. Easter eggs, love the Easter eggs. Now. I would love to know what actual Freemasons think of this episode. Good point, he didn't have one of

our patrons. He did say he was a free Mason. And I've just seen the message here saying that he would have volunteer to come into the show to talk about my goodness. But maybe in a future episode. But I would love to hear you, guys right in Simpson's mailbag at gmail dot com. If you're part of a secret society of some kind, let us know what's it like to have the power. If you could be part of any secret society, what you what power you would you want to have? Oh?

Man, I would. I would love the power of free shopping, like like food shopping. I'd love to be able to go to the supermarket enough to worry about spending four hundred dollars. Well that's true, man, Given them you've got hungry, hungry children and all that kind of and they're getting bigger and bigger, bigger onli ate four fucking bowls of neutrograph for breakfast yesterday, four balls. He's going to be a little monster. Holy shit.

Yeah, I mean, I'm saying that with with Lou's youngest son who was hitting the teenageers and just growing hair and devouring were animals. That's what we are. That's pretty much it. But you know, he'd had dinner the other night that he came over and he was sort of picking bits of our dinner, and then he got like sitting on the couch and watching that god awful Netflix movie Rebel Moon. Oh yeah, no good, no good. I saw someone say it's Star Wars, but it's just a bad Star

Wars. It's a bad Star Wars. Uh. He's already eating a bunch, but he's like got to the gon to the cupboard and got three things of burger rings and twisties or whatever. Last time I had three of these, I was sick in the morning. I said, why are you doing it? But he devoured him and he was fine. I had burger rings for the first time in like ten years. Last week because a friend of mine came from America who actually brought me this record here. It is,

oh my Starship Troopers all the way from America. It is the Blood and Bug Juice Marble Vinyl. Wow, I know right, Oh my god, how fucking cool is that? God? Damn? Yeah, So shout out to Matt Blom Mat. But as at present to him, we got him a magnet of the four of us because he's part of my groom's party and all of us who are part of my grooms party with they're hanging out that day when he came to visit us again, a little magnet to put in

his fridgets back in America. We also made him an Australian care package. So I had burger rings, twisties, Tim TAM's all that kind of shit in there. And yeah, obviously I brought two backs of burger rings, one for me, one for the kids, and the kids loved them. I remember burger rings. I was a kid. They'd give me ulcers in the mouth. I think I might have had something similar, which is why I was never all that big on them. Yeah, used to eat it

was like cheesels. I loved burger rings there. Yeah, I ate it. I was like, listen of the kids loved the burger rings. Yeah, no ulcers for them, which's good. The next generation, the next generation. But anyway, all right, guys, this has been our review of Home with a Great As we said each and every month, now the first podcast of the month, you can expect a classic review, no particular order, but it's gonna maybe will suggest to the patrons that can vote one

and more. That's well. If you're a supporter of ours on Patreon, you can join in the poll and also vote on which movie we review each month for the Movie Guys podcast along with Mitch. This month is going to be a water themed one. I'm thinking it's going to be Jaws. Looks like it's going to be the one. It's all right by me. Yes, Jaws is probably one. It is one of the greatest movies of all time. Right, do you think it's top ten greatest of all time?

I would certainly put it in the top twenty five, twenty five. What do you think? What is your top three? Top of your head? This always changes its Star Wars up there. Yeah, absolutely, it's certainly my top ten. Years ago, I was commissioned by the Geelong Advertiser. The paper down here is when they still had money. They still were based on seal. Yeah, that's great to write like a top one hundred movies, like insert thing and how long does that take to put together? It

took me a few weeks. Yeah. I sort of broke it down to categories and all that kind of thing and had my top top ten. What do I put in there? And Star Wars was definitely, and Their Raiders was in there. I can't remember if I put Godfather one and two and I'll count them as like one movie. Maybe what is your usual number one? Though you must my very well, it varies. I mean my number one for that one was actually it's called seven Samurai, so Japanese movie from

the fifties, which is actually what rebelmon ripples. What a wanker? You say that? And then you watch seven Samurai, which is like a template for modern action movies. The Magnificent Seven is a remake of it. There's been a Bugs Life as a remake of it. There's so many and so many other movies. I've sort of used it as oh, okay, yeah, this is how you do it, this is how you you know, you bring together a cool group of characters. You give them a common cause.

Some of them are really into it, some of them less. So they've all got opportunities for redemption they'veken or heroism or whatever. It's fantastic. And I know it sounds wanky to say, oh, it's a Japanese movie from the fifties, but you know it is fucking boss. Okay, it's really good. Look maybe among Generation X types like myself, where the kind of people who go this is actually really good. But look, Star Wars certainly in there. If if we're doing my top three, I'm assuming white

men can't jump. Oh absolutely, that's somewhere in the top good movie. I'm gonna say Raiders, Star Wars, and Godfather one and two on and two. Okay, yeah, I did pick up Godfather's on Blu Ray as well. You should never seen them? Haven't you never seen them? Take take a little time. I looked at the other three and I was like, guys, said, don't bother didn't Father? If you like the first

two, I'll lend you three. Okay, yeah, because three is not bad, but it just suffers by virtue of not being as good as one and two. I really bought up on Home and I was like, wait a minute, guys, said he had this. I'm just gonna borrow guys. You can, by the way, Deficts to remind me your peewee David's out there. Oh good, be sitting down the shelf. God knows how long what we are actually out of you this time. Guys, thank you

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