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Forward Thinking

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Forward Thinking examines groundbreaking ways in which the world is evolving and how people and organizations can respond to changing demands and technologies. In each episode theorists, innovators, and business leaders discuss global trends—technology, artificial intelligence, globalization, urbanization, climate change, and more—with hosts Michael Chui and Janet Bush of the McKinsey Global Institute.
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Is the world facing a state of permacrisis?

Leading economists Mike Spence and Mohamed El-Erian talk about the “pretty complicated and disorienting environment” we face. In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward thinking podcast, co-host Michael Chui talks with A. Michael Spence, dean emeritus of the Stanford Graduate School of Business, and Mohamed El-Erian, president of Queens’ College Cambridge and chief economic advisor at Allianz. Together with former UK Chancellor of the Exchequer and Prime Minister Gordon Brown, th...

Sep 25, 202449 min

Unpacking the mysteries of productivity

Leading economist Chad Syverson speculates about the ingredients in productivity’s secret sauce. In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward thinking podcast, co-host Janet Bush talks with Chad Syverson. Syverson is George C. Tiao Distinguished Service Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. His work focuses on the interactions between firm structure, market structure, and productivity. In this podcast, he covers topics including the following...

Jul 02, 202446 min

Delivering services to the public—digitally—with Jennifer Pahlka

A former US deputy chief technology officer talks about how digitization can be used to create a government that works for the people. Jennifer Pahlka is the founder of Code for America, served as the United States government’s deputy chief technology officer, and is author of the book Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better . Jenn joins us to share her personal reflections of her time in government and the path forward. See www.mckinsey.com/privac...

Jun 11, 202450 min

What’s the future for cities in the postpandemic world?

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Ed Glaeser, the Fred and Eleanor Glimp Professor of Economics and the chairman of the Department of Economics at Harvard University. His latest book, coauthored with health economist David Cutler, is Survival of the city: The future of urban life in an age of isolation, written to make sense of what might be the impact of the pandemic on cities. They covers topics including: • Has the pandemic changed cities temporarily or permanently? • What does the hybrid buildin...

Apr 15, 202437 min

Forward Thinking on Europe’s existential crisis with Marco Buti

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Marco Buti. Buti holds the Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa Chair in European Economic and Monetary Integration at the European University Institute. They cover topics including the following: The evolution of European policy coordination European competitiveness Whether Europe’s business model is sustainable The need of more speed among European companies in frontier technologies The importance of Europe’s capital markets union See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy...

Jan 24, 202435 min

Forward Thinking on the tricky business of removing carbon from our world with Nan Ransohoff

Co-host Michael Chui talks with Nan Ransohoff. Ransohoff is the head of climate at Stripe and leads Frontier, an advanced market commitment for carbon removal. She answers questions including: Is carbon removal a get out of jail free card for emitters? What are the most promising carbon removal technologies? Is it possible to scale up effective technologies quick enough? How much do costs need to come down before scaling is possible? What is an advanced market commitment? See www.mckinsey.com/pr...

Dec 05, 202327 min

Forward Thinking on how geeks are changing the world with Andrew McAfee

Co-host Michael Chui talks with Andy McAfee. McAfee is a principal research scientist at the MIT Sloan School of Management, co-founder and co-director of MIT’s initiative on the digital economy, and the inaugural visiting fellow at the Technology in Society organization at Google. See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

Nov 14, 20231 hr

Forward Thinking on why we ignore inflation—from ancient times to the present—at our peril with Stephen King

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Stephen King. King is a senior economic advisor to HSBC, having served as the bank’s group chief economist from 1998 to 2015. His latest book, very prescient in timing, is We Need to Talk About Inflation: 14 Urgent Lessons from the Last 2,000 Years . In this podcast, he covers topics including the following: The root causes of the current resurgence of inflation How long higher inflation may persist What history tells us about the management of inflation The main ec...

Nov 01, 202347 min

Forward Thinking on the existential issues facing the middle classes in every country with Homi Kharas

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Homi Kharas. Kharas is a senior fellow in the Center for Sustainable Development at the Brookings Institution and also cofounder of World Data Lab. He studies policies and trends influencing developing countries, the emergence of the world's middle class, and global governance. He's collaborated with the McKinsey Global Institute on research into consumers in emerging markets and economic empowerment, and his latest book is The Rise of the Global Middle Class: How t...

Oct 11, 202341 min

Forward Thinking on funding a clean world with Ann Mettler

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Ann Mettler. Mettler is Vice President, Europe, at Breakthrough Energy, working on cleantech innovation in pursuit of a net-zero-emissions future. Before her current role, she worked for many years in European public policy. She was head of the European Political Strategy Center, the in-house think tank of the European Commission, from 2014 to 2019. In this podcast, she covers topics including the following: Investing for climate impact The challenges in Europe’s cl...

Sep 05, 202335 min

Forward Thinking on the recipe for Asia’s success story with Justin Yifu Lin

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Justin Yifu Lin. Lin is dean of the Institute of New Structural Economics, dean of the Institute of South-South Cooperation and Development, and professor and honorary dean of the National School of Development at Peking University. He served as chief economist at the World Bank from 2008 to 2012, and he actually took up his World Bank position after serving for 15 years as professor and founding director of the China Center for Economic Research at Peking Universit...

Aug 15, 202338 min

Forward Thinking on how to live with our longer lives with Andrew J. Scott

Co-host Janet Bush talks with Andrew J. Scott. Scott is professor of economics at London Business School; his work focuses on the economics of longevity. He's co-founder of the Longevity Forum and a member of the World Economic Forum's Council on Healthy Aging and Longevity, topics that are very much the focus of the McKinsey Health Institute . His book The 100-Year Life has sold more than a million copies in 15 languages. In this podcast, he covers topics including the following: What benefits ...

Jul 26, 202343 min

Forward Thinking on avoiding another false dawn for Africa and finally seizing the continent’s potential with Carlos Lopes

Cohost Janet Bush talks with Carlos Lopes. He is a professor in the Mandela School of Public Governance at the University of Cape Town. He’s also an affiliate professor at Sciences Po, Paris, an associate fellow in the Africa Program at Chatham House, and a member of the African Union reform team. Lopes was the policy director for UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and executive secretary of the UN Economic Commission for Africa. He serves as an advisor on MGI’s research on Africa, including our la...

Jul 12, 202339 min

Forward Thinking on bringing the joy to economics with Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers

Cohost Michael Chui talks with Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers, both professors of public policy and economics at the University of Michigan. They cover topics including the following: Subjective well-being How the labor market has evolved since the pandemic A decline in inequality The potential impact of AI Why write a new economics text book? See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information...

Jun 28, 202348 min

Forward Thinking on the brave new world of generative AI with Ethan Mollick

Co-host Michael Chui talks with business professor Ethan Mollick. He is an associate professor at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. Mollick covers topics including the following: What is generative AI? How substantial are the performance improvements workers can gain from using generative AI How to use human management skills to get better results from generative AI What generative AI means for the future of work and trust What he learned when he made the use of generative AI...

May 31, 202349 min

Forward Thinking on the rollercoaster of central banking with Hans-Helmut Kotz

Co-host Michael Chui talks with economist Hans-Helmut Kotz who is a visiting professor of economics at Harvard University, a senior policy fellow at the Leibniz Institute for financial research at Goethe University, Frankfurt, and on the economics faculty of Freiburg University. Kotz covers topics including the following: Parallels between the 2007–09 global financial crisis and today’s financial turbulence. The balance that banking regulators need to strike to protect the economy but encourage ...

May 17, 202337 min

Forward Thinking on people on the move and the technological progress and productivity they bring with Dany Bahar

Co-host Janet Bush talks with economist Dany Bahar. He is an associate professor of practice of international and public affairs at Brown University’s Watson Institute and a senior fellow of the Growth Lab at the Harvard Center for International Development. He’s also a nonresident fellow at the Brookings Institution and the Center for Global Development. Two themes stand out in his work: the diffusion of technology and knowledge, and migration. In this podcast, Bahar covers topics including the...

Apr 19, 202340 min

Forward Thinking on ‘megathreats,’ ‘polycrises,’ and ‘doom loops’ with Nouriel Roubini

Co-host Michael Chui talks with Nouriel Roubini. Roubini is professor emeritus of economics at the Stern School of Business at New York University, and CEO of Roubini Macro Associates, a global macroeconomics consultancy. He covers topics including the following: The “mother of all” debt crises and what to do about it Likely future trends in the global balance sheet—the world’s economic health and wealth The trajectory of globalization Which “megathreat” worries him most See www.mckinsey.com/pri...

Mar 22, 202340 min

Forward Thinking on working at the interface of the environment and business with Justin Adams

Co-host Michael Chui talks with Justin Adams. Adams is the head of partnerships at Just Climate, a climate-led investment business. he answers questions, including: How does nature or the ecosystem provide services to the economy? How much needs to be invested in nature? What role can capitalism play in addressing issues around sustainability? What kind of innovations have real potential to mitigate carbon emissions? See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information...

Mar 01, 202341 min

Forward Thinking on how to get remote working right with Nicholas Bloom

In this episode, co-host Michael Chui talks with Nicholas Bloom. Bloom is the William Eberle Professor of Economics at Stanford University and a senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. He covers topics including the following: The history of remote work How remote work can enhance productivity What practices make hybrid work most effective How the views of employers and employees compare on working remotely See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information...

Feb 01, 202347 min

Forward Thinking on the complicated and contentious state of global trade with Chad P. Bown

Janet Bush talks with Chad P. Bown. Bown is Reginald Jones Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. They cover topics including: How contentious current trading relationships are in the context of history Is the world deglobalizing or not? The economic and human cost of decoupling See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information

Jan 19, 202340 min

Forward Thinking on the meeting point of science and humanity with Jayshree Seth

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, co-host Michael Chui talks with Jayshree Seth, a corporate scientist and the chief science advocate at the 3M company. She covers topics including: How the human context can be brought into the practice of science and engineering Expanding talent pipelines into STEM fields The role of leadership in technical fields See www.mckinsey.com/privacy-policy for privacy information...

Nov 30, 202244 min

Forward Thinking on the fragility of the world’s food systems and how to fix them with Jessica Fanzo

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, Janet Bush talks with Jessica Fanzo. Fanzo is the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Global Food Policy and Ethics at the Berman Institute of Bioethics, the Bloomberg School of Public Health, and the Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University in the United States. From 2017 to 2019, Fanzo served as the co-chair of the Global Nutrition Report and the UN High Level Panel of Experts on Foo...

Nov 16, 202239 min

Forward Thinking on talent, state capacity, and being hopeful with Tyler Cowen

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, Michael Chui talks to Tyler Cowen, Holbert L. Harris Chair of Economics at George Mason University, who serves as chairman and general director of the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. With colleague Alex Tabarrok, Cowen is coauthor of the popular economics blog Marginal Revolution and cofounder of the online educational platform Marginal Revolution University. This conversation was recorded in September 2022....

Sep 28, 202248 min

Forward Thinking on progress in science funding, immigration, and biosecurity with Alec Stapp

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, co-host Michael Chui talks with Alec Stapp, co-CEO of the Institute for Progress, a Washington, DC, think tank he co-founded in January 2022. Progress is a policy choice, its founders say, and they have chosen to focus initially on three topics—meta-science, high-skill immigration, and biosecurity. Why those three? Their view is that each one is important, neglected by other researchers, and potentially tractable politi...

Aug 10, 202243 min

Forward Thinking on the sustainability revolution in textiles and the fashion industry with Edwin Keh

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, co-host Janet Bush talks to Edwin Keh, the CEO of the Hong Kong Research Institute of Textiles and Apparel. It was set up in 2006, with the aim of becoming a center of excellence in research and development in the fashion and textiles industry. The institute has won awards for garment recycling and for its work on a yarn that captures carbon dioxide from the air. Keh is also on the faculty at the Wharton School, Univers...

Jul 27, 202243 min

Forward Thinking on people, places, and the revenge of places that don’t matter with Andrés Rodríguez-Pose

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, co-host Janet Bush talks to Andrés Rodríguez-Pose, Princesa de Asturias Chair and a professor of economic geography at the London School of Economics. Between 2015 and 2017, he was president of the Regional Science Association International. He won the European Regional Science Association Prize in regional science in 2018. He covers topics including: - What factors make a particular place or individuals in a particular...

Jul 13, 202229 min

Forward Thinking on war in Ukraine, inflation, and cooperation in a fractured world with Jean Pisani-Ferry

In this episode of the McKinsey Global Institute’s Forward Thinking podcast, co-host Janet Bush talks to leading French economist Jean Pisani-Ferry. He holds the Tommaso Padoa Schioppa chair at the European University Institute. He's a senior fellow at Bruegel, the European think tank, and a nonresident senior fellow at the Peterson Institute in Washington, DC. He's also a professor of economics with Sciences Po in Paris. And from 2013 to 2016, he served as commissioner general of France Strateg...

Jun 29, 202233 min
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