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#23 - PoS 是谎言么?

Sep 15, 20222 hr 17 min
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本期是由 Daniel (https://twitter.com/lgn21st) 和 Terry (https://twitter.com/poshboytl) 共同主持,我们邀请了 BTCStudy (https://www.btcstudy.org/) 的内容负责人阿剑老师,来跟大家聊聊关于 PoW vs PoS 的争论,他的观点和立场。 阿剑老师曾经是以太坊中文社区非常硬核的研究者,翻译者,内容贡献者,主持人的愿望是话题能够深入浅出,但是阿剑老师实力不允许,所以如果你对 PoW/PoS 以及分布式共识算法的设计思想和基础概念有所了解,那么会帮助你理解为什么通过阿剑老师的分析可以得出 PoW 全面优于 PoS 这个结论。 如果对 “Ethereum Merge” 的问题分析以及什么是 “比特币思想” 更感兴趣,不妨直接跳到 1:10:00 开始听。 访谈结尾处阿剑老师最让我动容的一段话,我摘录于此:一个技术范式应该想到它应该保护自己的用户,它应该保护共识,它应该珍惜每一分来之不易的共识,它应该容纳每一个可能容纳的个体去进入这个生态,去能够用它来继续做梦,去 为一个遥远的我能够想象的美好未来去奋斗。 Show Notes 关于 Ethereum Merge https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge Forkit 关于 PoW v.s. PoS https://forkit.fm/22 Leslie Lamport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport 拜占庭将军问题 The Byzantine Generals Problem https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf Stake Grinding attacks 权益研磨攻击 https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack Nothing at stake attacks https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027 Long range attacks https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9 Poelstra:论权益与共识 英文:https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf 中文:https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/ PoS的根本缺陷在于循环论证 https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124 social consensus https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51 Weak Subjectivity 弱主观性 https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/ Balancing attack 平衡攻击 https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079 zack-bitcoin:PoS 辩护意见大全 英文:https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/otherblockchains/thedefenceofpos.md 中文:https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww PoW 与 PoS 的真正区别:判质费用决定了谁更适合构建货币 中文:https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA 对 PoS 的简单批评: 中文:https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/(2020.10)对 PoS 的简单技术批评.pdf 关于大区块以及比特币扩容之争 https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html 以太坊的扩容方案以二层 Rollup 为核心 https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698 通过 EIP-4488 降低 Calldata 成本 https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488 Optimistic Rollup https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/ Zero-Knowledge Rollup https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups Validium Rollup https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/ John Adler:基于委员会的分片的安全性与可扩展性 英文:https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193 中文:https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg Ruben Somsen:SNARK 与区块链的未来: 英文:https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b 中文:https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/ Vitalik:Proto-Danksharding FAQ 英文:https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/protodankshardingfaq 中文:https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769 EthFans 以太坊爱好者的告别信 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA BTCStudy https://www.btcstudy.org 矿工不会接受EIP -1559,因为这是永久的收益剥夺 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050 失而复得但是评论全部丢失的预言家周报第 130 期《以太坊的隐忧》 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA 关于被举报的预言家周报第 130 期(在微信中打开可以看评论) https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww 隔离见证 SegWit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit 比特币升级提案 Taproot 技术解读 https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/ BTCStudy 文化标签页,了解比特币精神的入口 https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/文化/ Pick 环节 自带支架和蓝光护眼认证,高性价比的微星显示器 https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html Nostr https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr Zettelkasten 卡片式笔记方法简介 https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/ 北斗儿童3D凹凸地图 https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm Special Guest: 阿剑.
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