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Forever35

Doree Shafrir & Elise Huwww.forever35podcast.com
Which night creams will make you look well-rested, is quitting coffee really worth the headache, can emptying your closet really bring you joy, and wtf is a gratitude practice, anyway? Co-hosts Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu explore these kinds of questions, with a big helping of humor and self-awareness. Together with weekly guests, they navigate what it means to care for ourselves as we get older — and hopefully wiser.

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Episodes

Replay - Episode 351: Do Something, Somewhere, Soon with Stacey Abrams

We're taking a break for the holidays, but please enjoy this well-loved episode with Stacey Abrams! The unstoppable author and voting rights activist Stacey Abrams joins Doree and Elise to share her magnetic charisma and talk through the importance of pairing empathy with action, what it looks like to commit to the craft of imagination, and how to overcome fear in your daily life. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the p...

Dec 24, 202542 min

Episode 382: Come Away Corrupted with Dr. Meghan Sullivan

We want you to come away from this episode corrupted, in the best way, thanks to our guest Dr. Meghan Sullivan, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame. She joins Doree and Elise to discuss how to live “The Good Life,” and they get into everything from the beginning of democracy and the role philosophy played (and continues to play) in it, to virtue ethics and its relationship to work-life balance. She also gets existential with us about flourishing, happiness, and the vexing que...

Dec 22, 202558 min

Mini-Ep 473: Holiday Traditions and Gift Giving

Doree and Elise answer listener questions about their holiday traditions and what they’re gift giving. Plus, they get advice for the caller worried about officiating a friend’s wedding, and hear a listener’s reflections on the meaning of happiness. **The Patreon Sale is happening now! Get 20% off now through this Friday 12/19 at midnight PT. ** To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com....

Dec 17, 202529 min

Episode 381: Learning a New Life with Jen Hatmaker

Jen Hatmaker is back after living a lot of life since she was on Forever35 more than 5 years ago! She discusses her new book ( Awake: A Memoir ) about her life after her divorce, and looks back at her previous book ( Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire ), which came out just before she learned her husband of 26 years cheated on her. They touch on the relationship she and her kids have with religion and faith today, learning personal finance for the first time as a divorcee, and how she’s left the eva...

Dec 15, 202554 min

Mini-Ep 472: Grape Popcorn and The Hairy Questions

Listeners call in asking about advice for public speaking when you’re nervous, how to promote hair growth on your head, and figuring out how to have a happy life. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the...

Dec 10, 202531 min

Episode 380: Sometimes Less Is More: A Dermatologist Takes Your Questions with Dr. Jenny Wang

Dr. Jenny Wang, Founder of SoCal Skin and Surgery (and Elise’s dermatologist!), joins the pod to answer listener questions about skincare and busts some of the recent trending cosmetic procedure myths. She digs into why your skin suddenly rejects products you’ve used for years, how to deal with blackheads (aka sebaceous filaments), the not-so-secret to anti-aging, the legitimacy of exosomes, and so much more! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0...

Dec 08, 202554 min

Mini-Ep 471: Berries From The Earth

Doree and Elise hear from listeners with a suggestion for how to celebrate your Forever35 birthday, ways to plan financially with — and for — your aging parents, and dueling views on how to handle berries after they’ve come home from the store. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/f...

Dec 03, 202522 min

Episode 379: The 2025 Gift Guide

‘Tis the season for the Forever35 Gift Guide! Doree and Elise get into the jewelry, crafts, games, home, beauty, and work gifts for everyone on your list for the 2025 holiday season. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast)...

Dec 01, 202535 min

Replay - Ep 449: These Are a Few of Our Favorite Microjoys

We're taking a little break for Thanksgiving but here's a favorite mini-ep of ours from earlier this year. Happy Thanksgiving, and we'll be back Monday as usual! Doree and Elise share their recent microjoys and their thoughts on the Wirecutter Trader Joe’s list. They also hear from listeners about tennis-themed fashion, more great hair oil recs, and a tea towel throwback (and discount code). To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also ...

Nov 26, 202527 min

Yo Quiero Dinero Drops In On Forever35

We're back with another Pod Swap! This time with one of our guests from our Money Month series earlier this year: Jannese Torres of Yo Quiero Dinero with her episode How To Financially Plan For Motherhood. You can find her podcast Yo Quiero Dinero wherever you listen to podcasts! _______ Jannese Torres takes you through her journey of stepping into motherhood while juggling entrepreneurship—and how she financially prepared for this life-changing chapter. She breaks down the key steps she took to...

Nov 24, 202536 min

Mini-Ep 470: Teach Me Your Frugal Ways

In this grab bag mini-ep, listeners send in their commentary on aging parents, Australian pop-culture recs, and shift work. Plus, Doree and Elise talk about money-saving hacks and Elise discusses her teen modeling years. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the po...

Nov 19, 202532 min

Episode 378: Don’t Leave Home Without Your Sunbrella with Mari Yamamoto

Actor and writer Mari Yamamoto (Pachinko, Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, Rental Family) joins Doree and Elise to discuss her new film, Rental Family, and how it opens the conversation about the loneliness crisis in the digital age. Plus, they get into Mari and Elise’s time together in Tokyo, her deep commitment to the parasol as a sun shade, and why she went from being a reporter to being an actor multihyphenate. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591...

Nov 17, 202545 min

Mini-Ep 469: Return of the MAC

Doree and Elise share listener thoughts on Sephora finally carrying MAC products, senior care in America, and the prevalence of workplace burnout for women. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsl...

Nov 12, 202525 min

Episode 377: Teeing It Up with Hilary Lassoff

We’ve got a golfer on the show! Hilary Lassoff, Founder of Bunker Club – a golf-centered social club for women, queers and underrepresented voices – joins the pod to talk about all things community, sports, and how coaching can change the way you feel about a sport with Doree and Elise. Plus, we did it! The Forever35 (aka YOUR) Giving Circle investments helped us make Virginia the country’s newest pro-democracy trifecta! Thank you to everyone who was able to donate! And thank you to everyone who...

Nov 10, 202546 min

Mini-Ep 468: When You “Don’t Fit”

Doree and Elise reflect on how much the topic of parents getting older has resonated with listeners. Then listeners send in their thoughts on jobs and identity, tips for continuing to help your aging parents, and the strange lens we still view weight through in the U.S. Don’t forget to find our newsletter at the free tier on Patreon ! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit for...

Nov 05, 202526 min

Episode 376: Women, Texting, Talking with Kate Baer

Poet and author Kate Baer returns to the pod four years later (almost to the day!) to discuss her latest collection, How About Now?, the ways she keeps intimacy alive within her friendships, and what she enjoys about living in the country. Plus, Doree gives us the play-by-play on her recreational tennis team’s dramatic trip to National Championships in Scottsdale! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever...

Nov 03, 202551 min

Mini-Ep 467: We Can Relate

Listeners share thoughts on our recent guest Vanessa Grigoriadis’ episode on aging parents, offer ideas for how to support a friend going through IVF, and advice for switching careers without spending a ton of money (and maybe even with the help of AI?). Plus, Doree has a triumphant tennis update! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everyth...

Oct 29, 202527 min

Episode 375: The Places We Have Real Power with Melissa Walker

The States Project’s Melissa Walker is back on Forever35 to discuss the importance of upcoming off-year elections, like high-stakes contests in Virginia next week. The ladies also talk about why driving powerful change at the state legislative level is vital, what door-knocking can do, and how to make the most of dramatic career pivots in your 30’s. In these final days before the election, the Forever35 community is raising for VIRGINIA! Any and every Giving Circle donation received from October...

Oct 27, 202546 min

Mini-Ep 466: Time For A Second Act

Listeners send in their request for bath towel recs (they’re different from dish towels!), the importance of working on your executive function skills, and advice on changing careers without the side hustle. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the podcast on Inst...

Oct 22, 202529 min

Episode 374: So Our Parents Are Old with Vanessa Grigoriadis

What is it like to take on your aging parents' health management, finances, and the logistics of it all? Vanessa Grigoriadis, reporter and podcast producer, joins the show to get into it. She hypes her new show “ So Your Parents Are Old ,” that tackles the very real, very difficult stage of life when caretaking for parents is a subject that still has a sense of taboo around it. The ladies also gab about what makes today’s ultrarich — and famous — unique from other eras. To leave a voicemail or t...

Oct 20, 202547 min

Mini-Ep 465: Burnout Stories

Listeners send in their thoughtful notes about dealing with, moving through, and getting to the other side of burnout – especially when you like your job and your company. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign u...

Oct 15, 202529 min

Episode 373: Connect, Don’t Correct Your Body with Cadence Dubus

Cadence Dubus (founder of Brooklyn Strength and host of the podcast Busy Body) joins Forever35 to remind us that our bodies don’t need be “optimized” and share practical reasons for getting into fitness. She also offers her take on how GLP-1s are changing the way people think about their bodies and the kinds of questions you have to ask yourself when beginning a new movement practice. Plus, Elise shares a transformative Korean shampoo, and Doree takes another big step in her decluttering moment....

Oct 13, 202549 min

Mini-Ep 464: Is The Juice Worth The Squeeze?

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about supporting your friends who work in the government, how to deal with burnout, and how adding some executive function hacks is working out. Plus, the link to Doree’s barrel jeans! To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the po...

Oct 08, 202530 min

Episode 372: Digging Into Family Dynamics with Sue Dominus

Sue Dominus, New York Times writer and author of The Family Dynamic: A Journey into the Mystery of Sibling Success, joins Doree and Elise to discuss how birth order does and doesn’t affect our identities, how to outsource discipline and make the home life safe and loving, and the thing she wishes she had done more with her kids. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35...

Oct 06, 202542 min

Mini-Ep 463: You Can Just Say No

Listeners call in with their thoughts on the efficacy of at-home laser hair removal, the joys of color analysis, opinions on THE best JLo movie, and advice for what to do with all those tiny beauty samples. Plus, Doree volunteers at the library and Elise goes to a Patreon event. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on...

Oct 01, 202528 min

Episode 371: The Dark Side of Beauty with Arabelle Sicardi

Beauty writer Arabelle Sicardi joins Doree and Elise to discuss her fascinating new book The House of Beauty, which goes deep on topics like how beauty products are made, produced, and distributed around the world, including the connections between fragrance and fascism; hair and the empire of exploitation; and what it really means to live well and how that connects to biohackers and transhumanists. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You c...

Sep 29, 202546 min

Mini-Ep 462: Jeans, Laser Machines, and Short-Hair Queens

Listeners have thoughts about leaving your baby for a trip for the first time, plus questions about at-home laser hair removal machines and whether you can trust “expert” advice about haircuts. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35 . Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Foreve...

Sep 24, 202524 min

Episode 370: Happily Ever After with Brea Grant and Mallory O'Meara

The duo behind the podcasts Reading Glasses and Reading Smut , Mallory and Brea, come on the show to discuss why we’re seeing a rise in the romantasy and smut genres, how to dip your toe into romance if you’re not already into it, and they’re armed with lots of recommendations of what to read and watch. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to e...

Sep 22, 202544 min

Mini-Ep 461: Doree Takes a Stand

Elise wonders at the efficacy of programs like denim buybacks and Sephora’s empties trade-ins, and Doree has some strong opinions! They also hear from listeners about school self-care, JLo’s best songs, and advocating for the library as a (free!) co-working space. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or vi...

Sep 17, 202528 min

Episode 359: The Joy of Writing and Ginger Juice with Jade Chang

Author Jade Chang joins Doree and Elise to talk about her good luck with gut health and her savory porridge dreams, what (and who) went into her new book What A Time To Be Alive, the joy of ginger, and navigating jealousies in friendship. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com. Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever...

Sep 15, 202546 min
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