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Ep -376: Grabbers.

May 08, 20261 hr 45 min
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Summary

The Forever Midnight crew reviews the 2012 Irish horror-comedy "Grabbers," praising its fun premise where islanders must get drunk to survive alcohol-averse aliens, despite some mixed feelings on its CGI. The conversation also explores wide-ranging tangents, including the authenticity of prison-made foods, the impact of AI on visual media, and a critical look at modern horror movie reboots like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Nightmare on Elm Street, advocating for more original concepts.

Episode description

In this week's episode, Brian picks a little known Irish horror comedy called "Grabbers" from 2012. The FM3 chat about it at length and also find themselves on many tangents this episode. The crew talks about The Void Dweller, meteors, prison food, Texas Chainsaw Reboots, Freddy Krueger and about how Josh, Jef and Brian are gettin' the Charles "Band" back together and more! So tune your tentacles into this extra large episode!

Transcript

Intro / Opening

Thank you. Hey buddy, yeah, breathe out. Take a deep breath. You're okay, you're calm, you're cool, you're here with your friends.

Encountering the Void Dweller

You're okay. I've been seeing the void dweller in the real world these days. I saw him recently too materialized. Yeah. Who who in my vicinity. Yeah, who who chanted the the sacred name? I'd be dwellin' in the void. Um Where'd you see him at? At the record swap. And also at the museum. I I didn't see him there myself because He hadn't made himself seem to manifested yet. But but some photographs were taken and I saw and he was starting to appear in those. Was he was he filming?

And not not asking to film and filming and then charging them for the film. Did he bring buttons? Yeah, he Yeah, absolutely. Was he holding a um a giant shoulder, over the shoulder video camera that you need to plug in, but the qu cable was g swinging do to nothing. Dude, full tape in it. Yeah. And he's like Twenty twenty five bucks and I'll film your s your event. What is happening?

You know, if you're from a different dimension, maybe it works differently. Maybe that th maybe that thing is like shooting fucking four K digital. It's clicking souls is what it's doing. To the cloud. And by cloud I mean that lightning striking cloud that's literally hovering above'em. It's going to that cloud. Man, I saw him And it wasn't even hot out and he was so sweaty. Yeah, man. Like, gotta be when you have you're layered up like he is. Yeah. Ugh.

I don't mean to be like yeah. I do. Yeah. You deserve yeah. For life You can I get a pass. Yeah, you get a pass. Yeah. Brian spent more time with his homie than Yeah, I mean he's almost killed Brian on a number of occasions. Yeah, you guys are covering. Caught your soul. Yeah, seriously. Yeah. Trapped you in a tape forever. St g stealing people in the fucking VHS camps. Maybe that happened to me.

'Cause I paid him twenty five dollars. Oh, then you're definitely in a huge ass camera. Then all my hair went away and I got really weak and feeble. You're just less interesting. You're a husk of a man. That's that was wow. Yeah. He owed it putting it together. He had hair then, stole the hair. Yep. Hair's getting longer. He just absorbs our things. That's why he wears the guy. You can't see his hands because his those are still raw. He hasn't absorbed anymore else. He doesn't want any of it to

Transfer through anybody. And then yeah, like'cause he sweats in those hands and then he just like drinks the sweat at the end of the night out of the out of the glove. Yeah, he's gross and weird, I'm sorry, but he fucking s Sucks. People that are watching that can see the video on Patreon, they will see that Brian's hat says, I'd rather be void dwelling. People always ask me about it too and I'm just like

I'm just out here dwelling in the void. Yeah. Yeah. And for th those of you that are trained and new that don't know about the void dweller, he is a Person of other dimensions and realms. Mm-hmm. He presents himself though as a greasy weirdo in our realm. And he is relentless, punishing, stinky, right, and weird. And you know what? If he was nice.

It would be fine. Yeah. But you think I could forgive him anything. I'm like, you look like that, you smell like that, and you give an attitude. He's kind of a real asshole. He's a little frightening. Yeah, I mean like we you had to deal with him One on one every week. I thought I was in for a while. Like he came in looking like he was gonna murder you. I genuinely thought I was gonna get stabbed by this man when I first met him. Yeah.

Rubber gloves on, wouldn't shake my hand, had one hand in his pocket, sketchy eyes going every which away. That pocket's got a knife in it. It's gonna be in my rib cage in about thirty. In with this fucking demon. Oh anyways. Anyway. I would love to say he has the best intentions, but I just I don't feel that way. Anymore. For a while I did. For a while I was like, I benefit of the doubt. He's he's he's there, he's where we share the same spaces.

And then one time I was just like he was just coming at me all sideways and weird. He might be weird. Might be sideways. Might be Well in his realm he's right side up, but if it comes over here, he's all he's all turned. Like yeah, he's like a bizarro person. Like, you know, in his realm he's fucking cool. Yeah, you might be cool. It's a realm of water. In the void. Homie is James Dean in the void. I'm James Dean.

Not so much over here. No, fucking fucking Jimmy Bean, you know. Fucking I don't know, he sucks. Anyways. Uh I'm sure he's gone to the next record store.

Next Record Store Promotion

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You seen'em there, right? It's been anyway time. That's our transition to our sponsor. Yep. Yeah, they're they are a great sponsor. And you know what? There's I I would like to say there's multiple exits in the next record store, but there's really only the one. You might have to jump out a window and shit gets hectic in there. But

Burrow into the Thai food restaurant next door. There's there are two doors. There are multiple like I mean by ocean sandwiches I think you have to have.

There's plenty of room to move if you get captured by the void dweller in the place like that. Mm-hmm. And you know what that's the thing comes with a record store. And I'm not this is not I'm not gonna start the advertisement with the record store yet. I'm just gonna start I'm gonna start the conversation about working in a place like a record store. You've worked in skate shops, which is usually better.

Which is usually like everyone you can relate to'cause they are of your ilk. Record stores are like all kinds of people like music. Oh yeah. All kinds of people are like Sometimes people come to you like uh oh, this person just woke up from under a car. They look they look like the car's

They got woke up because the car drove away and they went blom boom boom and they come in and they're like start shopping and you're like, Oh my god, this dude dog, you are actively bleeding right now. Dripping all over the records. And then you're like, What but then they make a beeline for the cassette players and you're like, Uh oh.

What? And then they go buy a couple dollar tapes and they buy a thirty dollar cassette player and they just hit the road. Hey. I was like, hey. Fuck Spotify. Yeah, that was yeah, help me can't afford a phone. That phone got run over when I got run over. I need to hear Some this fucking like best of Kenny Rogers tape now. Yeah. And over. And over. Sometimes you do. Yeah, I need something to stop the voices. And we have those things at the next record store. You can stop the voices.

Just quell them. That's a good slide. I don't know. We don't sell batteries. Oh my God. This isn't working. You know what? Apparently he knows where to get batteries. That's a good slogan for Next Record Store. You should pitch that to Quell the Voices at the Next Record Store.com. It has all of the records and tapes and CDs, tape players Damn, we sell tape players too? We sell portable tape players, we sell boom boxes, and we sell occasionally we have like a good use

Stereo console in there as well for tape players. And there's posters, there's shirts, there's D V D's nuts. There's all kinds of shit. C does nuts. So much good stuff. Soundtracks, of course, romance videos, uh of course art. If you're gonna buy music, physical m media music, go there, go to the this shop here in town and go online and buy from them online. Don't go to Amazon. Yeah. Don't don't do that kind of shit. Don't give them any more money. Give

Next record store money. Yeah, if only because you get ten percent off by mentioning Forever Midnight. There's that. Who doesn't need a deal right now? Right. Use Forever as the code on the website and just fucking say Jeff, Josh, and Brian in the store and you'll get ten percent off. That's right. Yeah. If you say too fast you might Get the void dweller popping out from his own. Someone might have said our names two other times in there. That might be the one.

Next record store rules so much you should definitely support them because they support us. We love them. They're great. Next record store.com. Check'em out.

Word Horde & Charles Band

And what about Word Hort? The Emporium of the Weird and Fantastic. That's the one. I know about this place. Oh my god, can I say we bought the Charles Band autobiography there. I just finished it. Right. It is Fucking nuts and everyone can expect

Some full moon features in the near future because I am hyped. We're back. We got a text from Josh that said, I take back everything I said, Charles Banner's a boss or something like that. Yes. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Oh no. Well it starts like This dude was b born in like in Italy, I believe. Okay. And he grew up there. His dad was a filmmaker and did all these his dad did all the spaghetti westerns, th you know, was a producer of all these movies.

And then he came back he st started like a underage uh like a yeah, underage, underground underage nightclub when he was a teenager. And it just had it tells about his growing up in Italy and then he came back to the States, started making movies right off the bat. and fucking fell into like tourist trap. That was one of the first ones he made. He made a bunch of tra really trashy ones, but he made

He started buying like things and he was one of the first ever video distributors before it was really popular. Like he was buying titles and selling them. And selling the extra. He's a businessman. Very much so. No doubt about that. Very much so, yeah. But he made he I mean by when I say made, he wasn't directing these movies, but he produced Tourist Trap.

Sure. And then he will ended up producing like Reanimator and of course started making all these crazy movies directed parents. His original ideas. Well he will be like, I want to do this movie. I want it to be about this. Hire a script guy, go. He's got script guys as way to high shit. I hope he's not using AI these days. I don't think he is. The the real shit and isn't trying to be like, Oh, I have another idea.

You know, fucking Chat GPT Mark write it. Claude for business. Tell me. Um this no, this dude I doubt he is. I hope so. Yeah. This his book talks about The rise of Empire Pictures, which was reanimator and from beyond and all these and ghoulies and ghoulies. Castle Freak? Castle Freak. No, that was actually a full moon. It is a full moon. Because dudes He bought that castle. He lived in that castle through the eighties.

On and off. Didn't they film multiple movies there? Multiple movies. Oh, you need the castle to make a prison steel? You're in you're in Italy. Oh, you need the castle in England. Come on over, you can borrow the castle. What the fuck? He also bought property beneath the castle. that is insane is so we could have a pool.

What? Because there was no y the castle didn't have a yard.'Cause it's just it's a only a hundred room castle. Oh yeah, that's like i you drive like literally right up to it in the movie. There's no grounds except for the castle. She's like, I need something else just we can party.

So he bought it and it eventually sold the castle, but uh for the last era he shot Castle Freak in it. I'm pretty sure I could party in the castle just fine. Oh yeah not need they had no trouble partying in the castle. They were shooting multiple movies at multiple times in the castle. Dude. That's fucking sick. They shot he was shooting fucking terror vision in Italy in the on the Dino de Lorentis' studio that he just bought.

Crazy. With and then he'd be shooting multiple movies at one time. By him shooting, I mean he's producing. The dra all the directors, all the everyone's there. And then they would all just party at night. Like three or four productions and then back to pr back to work. Just because people wanted to hang out in fucking Italy and party at the castle. Hell yeah.

You joking? That's fucking nuts. Anyway, that's just a start. That's before full moon. It's nuts, this thing. You were hyped. Dude, expect us back on the bandwagon. I am going to pick Ginger Dead Man before my life is done. Gary Bucey in Ginger Dead Man. Somebody came at us recently about Saying that oh, like you gotta fucking watch Ginger Dead Man because of Gary Beauty. And he the stories about Beusey on the Lucy that he's got. Oh no.

Dangerous. Save it. Save it for the episode'cause it's coming to the episode. I'm telling you. Yeah. Word horde delivered this book to us. We didn't we didn't even know. We had no idea. It was just there. I saw I know I saw it and I was like, Well we need that. Oh, and I was just talking to our friend James who said he bought the Stuart Gordon's mm.

Uh fucking memoir there too. See that's fucking sick. They got the selection you need. Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna have shit you didn't even know about and you have to have waiting for you at Word Horde Emboreum or the Weird and Fantastic. Go there. Twenty two hundred Petaluma Boulevard North Suite eight oh five in the premium village outlets, Petaluma, California.

You can go in there, you can talk to them, they're super knowledgeable, they'll help you out. Or you could use the website, which is weird and fantastic dot com. Yeah. And you can get ten percent off by using the discount code Midnight. That's right. Why wouldn't you do that? Why get a book there? Get a Stuart Gordon and the fucking Charles Mann books. You got to.

I'm telling you, I don't just gotta read this. Uh yeah, like you wanna read that Charles Banks. Like, when you're done with it, you let me know. I'm gonna swap you that fucking Charles Bann one for it. Fuck yeah. It was funny though, like I I bought that and I was like, Oh yeah, we need that. But I was like Well had no intention of reading it. Put that thing right up on the shelf. I read it during the band ban.

And I uh now I am there's no way. There's no more band man there's more band. We're not banned? No. Okay. Josh from now on all Josh's picks are gonna be fucking banned movie. I'm moonin' dudes I'm full moonin'. Fuck. But yeah, check out Wordhorde. They are so fucking cool to us and they have so much stuff you need. Clearly do. Clearly. Yeah. Plus they publish their own books. They have a bunch of rad titles, horror and horror adjacent stuff. Yeah. Hit them up. Check them out.

Uh they're the best. That's right. Support them. Yeah. Weird and fantastic.com Yes, welcome back boys. Got the incense popping off. Yeah, build or s we're burning that money incense, hoping hoping for you know Burning money we sure are. Yeah we sure are. We just read hundred dollar bills and incense and set it on fire. Uh it smells good at least. Yeah. So it does How are you doing, buddy? I am okay. Good. Yeah. Glad to hear you have a dope hoodie on. Thank you. We got my black skulls swaggin.

Very dandy sweatshirt on. Very cool, very cool. Black skulls are the fucking coolest. It's true. I wouldn't mind I wouldn't really mind other stuff but I I would not mind a movie. Like a black skulls movie. Just a full on, yeah. It would just be fucked up. Fucked up. It would be so um if you just follow those guys, oh my god. Oh yeah. I don't think you could actually put that movie out. You might have to go to Italy to put it out.

It's like s it's gonna be fucking rugged. Yeah. But I'm there for it, so totally. So I'm I've only seen Mandy once in my life, but I know that the movie we watched t today has homeboys in it. Like little scraggly haired guy at the beginning on the beach.

He's the guy that fucking is he's the guy who's calling his friend gobshite all the time? And he's the one that fucking blows the horn of uh pra Axis or Axis or whatever on the the cult leader in the Well yeah, like the he's like the the bitch. That's right, that's right. But yeah.

Introducing Grabbers: Brian's Pick

Paraxes or something? I don't know. Anyways. But yeah, well that's it. It's funny because I've seen okay, so this is my pick. I I I picked uh a movie that I thought I well I know it I've seen it before, but I thought it was really decent and uh very unsung or unheard of or underappreciated all around. And so I was like, I need to pick something that I think is gonna actually be good, but also I do like picking stuff that people haven't probably seen. Yeah.

Um and so I picked grabbers from twenty twelve, which I love that name, I'm sorry. I always I I can't help but think of graboids immediately when they do that. Yeah, yeah, totally. It's always the quiet places where the mad shit happens. But they're pilot whales. They died at sea. I can't be selfish sea monster. This is something totally Something something alien. ご視聴ありがとうございました You are so lucky she didn't kill you.

You were drunk. If we taint our blood with booze, we're poison a sweet. Uh uh. Six straw. We stay out of the rain and we drink. Your throne a party. It's a welcome party for me. We're leaving in a fortnight. It's just a goodbye party, whatever. Oh So gay! How did you find this movie? I randomly saw this movie, I believe it was on fucking Shudder or some streaming service, it was free. So I was like

What the fuck is Grabbers? I had no idea. Just it really was. I was I went in completely cold. Hadn't seen a trailer, hadn't seen anything. Right. And I was just looking for something to watch and hit hit play and was like pleasantly surprised. Yeah. And yeah, it's from twenty twelve. So like, you know, it was a it was a ways back. I don't think I didn't see this when it came out. This what this is way after, you know, that I saw it. Because again, this movie

I feel bad for it, but like this movie was made for like over four or five million dollars and so far, like globally, they've only made about four hundred thousand dollars. Okay. So like well I I feel like it's It was a UK film lottery movie, so it's you know it's

Critique: Grabbers' CGI & Filmmaking

Don't worry about it. It's paid for. Okay. Yeah. No but it I I think it's I think it holds up. I really enjoyed the the the setting is so gorgeous. Yeah, you'd seen it before. I never have. Oh no. Okay. I never have, but I I but I'm surprised this thing was made in twenty twelve because the the CG, for the most part, for me was like pretty good. I think it's legit. Yeah. Jeff is the the big critic, though. What do you think? What do you think?

I do not like it. Okay. Uh but I I have a pet peeve about um uh tentacles. CGI tentacles are always the fucking worst in my mind. So that just strikes me as uh off uh'cause it Animators, for whatever reason, when they do tentacles, they just over fucking animate'em. Okay. Everything's always moving around and swishing around and then stretching a crazy amount and

Just doing unnatural shit and it always takes me out of a movie. Always takes me out of ground ground it a little more realism and I'll I'm there for it. Uh technically the the That's what it means. I feel like it looks pretty good. It looks like it's really in the space. Never was there like a weird sometimes you'll see it and it looks like it's lighter than everything else. The contrast isn't the same as everything around it. Like the quality of the optic of the actual effect for me.

Was pr was hitting in almost all the bigger versions. Yeah. Especially the big version. What about the pocket peas that were just hopping around all it looks like little fucking fleshlights? Yeah, they kind of do, huh? That's a good point. Some of those are practical and like especially for like a low budget movie, it's it's it's impressive. Yeah, four or five million dollars in two thousand

Twelve, that's yeah pr that's pretty budget. I when I saw it, I thought that I thought the CG was fine and I watching today, like I think it still holds up. I think I have seen newer things that look worse. Yeah, definitely. So like definitely to me I'm like You know, I don't know. It didn't take me out and I'm like surprised.

They also do a lot of uh like I said, it's it it was the animation that just like that's unreal. That's not realistic that's just weird and it's too much. Yeah. But I mean that is for sure as an alien thing, is they want it to look not of this earth. So Yeah. But it you know it's cartoony. That's the problem. It it definitely is.

And that's just the anime. Not the l the actual look of it is is fine. I think they did some pretty old school ingenious things too. And they did it from the get go. Like it starts off on the ship and you see like Uh but the the you know, the cool Earth effect was you see like the comet coming like along the

surface of the atmosphere and then you see the ship out there and then you see like the guy's face light up and he looks over it. But it's just like you know, that's just like a flashing light they put on a stick over his face. And then they show the thing. I'm like, that's fucking great. Yeah, it works. They did a lot of things too, where like the th the the I mean

For those of you that haven't seen this, this is a c is a creature feature. I I was really stoked'cause I we've been wa you know, watching a lot of slashery things or stuff like that. I mean, not the demons, obviously there's demons, but um but I wanted something fun, like a creature. So yeah. Uh I I like that about this. But like yeah, so there's an alien creature in this.

Uh you don't see it for a while, but they do a thing where uh I think it's really cool where like they know they're to work within their means like you're talking about where like it might be coming from the background, but it's out of focus.

Like they have it out of focus on purpose because they're like, Oh, it would look shitty, you know. So let's just we'll put it out of focus because they're they're focusing more on the person and that thing's kinda happening, you know, and then like they're doing things like that or they're just doing things where like we're gonna we're gonna look away from it Instead of you just looking at this thing and being like, Oh, that's C G

where like, you know, they're looking at it, they go away from it, they look back at it again, that, you know, they're doing things like that. I think that are really smart Like to not get people bummed on the the CG it's gonna save them money too. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the less you show of it, the the better your movie is going to be'cause you're gonna you're able to like do m and more interesting things with

Yeah. Exactly. But but I think like they do the thing I hate about creature features when they're like being too uh thrifty. Yeah, you don't see anything. And it's like at least we get enough of it that we completely see what's up with it, what it's about, what it can do. How it works, what how it's gonna kill you. Right. It doesn't it does not enjoy

Eating heads. That's they're all bone. They're always spitting out heads, which I love to see that. Yeah. Dude. Oh my god. There's a scene in this movie. This starts out where like

Characters and the Alcohol Premise

Uh it's quite obvious that there's a monster. Like there's there's it's cut and dry. Yeah. It's it's steps. Jump right into it. Yeah. We have jump right in. The movie's less than an hour and a half long. It's so fast. The characters are f fun, but they're also n they start off pretty typical. You've got the guys on the father and son, skipper and kid on the boat. They eat shit.

Um, then you see like the dr drunk cop, you're like, Okay, that's okay, there we go. That's one and then like the new cop coming on the scene is this this woman who I recognize from Slow horses? You see slow horses? It's an Apple T V show that stars Gary Oldman about like it's a

It's a English police procedural but it's funny. It's actually very funny and it's uh a good show, but she's great in it. And this is that's fifteen years later. Yeah, I really like her. I think she's awesome. She is great and You know, I haven't seen anything else she's been in, but I really like her in this movie. I think she looks so there's your main characters.

And then everyone else is a fucking cartoonish character actor, wild Irish drunk. Drunk fu I I love it. I like right. Like because they're not they're they're even though they are cartoonish. They're not acting badly. All right. Are they real actors? I feel like they're just

people putting the real actor streets. Yeah they're all real actors. They look at it. There's no way you're an actor. There's no way you're active in a lot of dude. Yeah, but he might be more the the most just a dude of all the people in the movie. He's so like he steals every scene he's in. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. He's always like chicken it out and running away. Patty man. But he beats he just stomps one of those creatures to death. Not to death because they can't be killed, but yeah, he's like he's I was like, what a badass. Like he stomps this thing to death. And it comes at him was on his face for a while and you realize it's because He a fucking they're allergic to alcohol. Yeah, they won't drink they would yeah, they drink blood.

And they don't they it's like toxic to them. Yeah. Which is a pretty fun premise, really. Like if you I I think like And it was something when I first watched it I was like, What? That's kinda funny. They need water and blood. They need water and blood to survive. Yeah.

But like they don't nothing else really. They don't it doesn't as long as they have water and blood, they're fine. And they fucking reproduce like fucking rabbits. And what what what does the water do? It just dries them out, they don't have enough water on them at all times?

Is that was that what they were saying or what?'Cause it showed him like he peeled a layer of the skin, put water on it, and it basically grew back like good. Right. And it was like sparkly and a cool effect. So but it Yeah, so then you're like, okay, well that's that's an interesting premise.

The they're laying eggs all over the beach. There's definitely big th so a at least a big one. Right. And you have the the ocean there. Yeah. So lots of water. Yeah, lots of water. And it's raining. Rainy ass fucking uh island off of Ireland. Right. So perfect rain. Perfect storm for uh

But they're like so water monster. Then th they're our drunk cop is always drinking, day drinking. Yeah. And he gets fucking one of the things on his face, and then the the thing drinks his blood and then starts puking blood. And starts dying and they're like What have you been eating? And the guy's like, I ate a bag of chips and a banana And he's like It's probably the alcohol. And then the rest of the movie

Everyone get pissed drunk. It's kind of it's funny because like it is a like a horror comedy, you know? Like there's it's not it's not trying to be too funny. It's not trying to be like over the top. So I was like I kinda thought about you when I was like picking this'cause like

I think that it's funny, but it's not like ho ho like fucking you know, it's not trying to be ridiculous. I think you can appreciate it and get a little chuckle here and there, but it's not like you're sitting there trying to just write this whole comedy thing. Yeah.

And uh yeah, I mean the more down the middle than than one or the other. But like the idea of just having the rest of the movie like everyone gets locked into a bar and they have to be pissed drunk or else they're gonna get eaten. And it's Home Girl's first time getting drunk. Yeah, she's never had a drink before. Right. So it's like me. Yeah. It'll be like M. J. Bryan ten beers and then some fucking Bosnian tank fuel, whatever homies drinking.

But like the clear stuff. You don't the clear stuff, stay away from it. Especially if it's homemade clear stuff, you try they call it po potine. Uh is uh Irish like moonshine. Okay. Yeah. But I mean there's other clear liquors, obviously. But like yeah. They mention at the very end, he's like, You have any potine at home or po I forget how you pronounce it, but it's like basically Irish moonshine.

Prison Food & Jenkum Discussion

But I've I've drank Mm that kind of stuff in Eastern Europe and in again in in uh Slovenia they had this This guy from Bosnia came over with this huge jug of clear alcohol. Yeah, you don't like that. You want some of this? And I was like, What is it? He's like, We call it Bosnian tank fuel. He goes, No, it's just it's just uh it's just liquor. But it might as well be the dish. It tastes like nothing except

Burning in pain. It's crazy that people like that. Or I guess they just like being drunk. It'll get you there fast. Yeah. Yeah. If it's not if it's I guess it's an economy thing too. It's also free because they can't sell that shit. It's illegal. Right. To even serve it. Yeah. Crazy. What's it made from? Do you know? Did they tell you? I think it's might be corn. Yeah. Okay. But it's either potatoes or corn.

You know? Any anything will will ferment. Yeah. And turn into poison for you to drink. Like moon moonshine as we know it in the States from like back in the day and in present day, there's people making moonshine still. In prisons and other places. Um That's corn usually. Is it corn? Corn mash, yeah. Okay. Or usually yeah, corn or

Yeah, usually corn,'cause wheat and barley is is uh gives you more of like a beer kind of barley wine thing. Uh if you're really trying to distill, I think corn is the way. Can I take a left turn real quick? Sure. Yeah, by all means. I've been following this fucking Instagram account and I can't remember of course what the name is right now. I'll have to to look at that. It says dude though He acts like he like I think he w has was in prison at some point.

Because he knows a lot about the foods in prison, the foods that people make. Uhhuh. So he does these like little skits where he'll be like, Oh, what's up? You know, like what do you want today? And like, oh let's make like chicken uh tamales or whatever. And he's Chicken Damoly fully prison style. So everything he's cutting is with a little credit card like fucking like I mean chips scratched up for fucking like it's the way that he's rolling shit is like I'm like

Dude, this is the coolest fucking account. It's so insane because of the shit that they're making. And it's like legit. It's like it's pretty ingenious how they figured out how to make Everything. Yeah. Everything. There was like it's kind of incredible. I want to see this one. It is incredible. And also like I'm like, there needs to be a fucking like a food network fucking like sh battle show that's like

Dudes that were in prison, fucking put'em on here, yeah fucking exonerate them for whatever at their win. Yeah, exactly, dude. That would be so sick. Okay, you got you got Fritos, you got a chocolate bar. Dude. Yeah. Amazing. But uh yeah, yeah. So someone tried to tell me the other day that Jenkum wasn't real. And I was like, What are you talking about, Jenkum isn't real? Jenkum's fully real. Jenkham's fully real, right? It's fully real. What do you mean by not real? Like this is not

It's just doesn't no one does it. And like he goes, Well, if one person's done it, then it's real. Oh, that's correct. Like, well then you know it's real if one person's done it. But I like to think it's an overall phenomenon. It's toilet wine. Of course people are gonna be doing that. I'm trying to huff. Yeah.

The uh one of the on this people definitely do it. Yeah. But thank you. One of the this guy whatever uh somebody else was like talking like somebody was talking about his thing and they're talking about how like another guy in prison was like doing like basically making like it was like a fucking you put your order in. Like you fucking like would put your order in and get your go and like the guys would have like

Fifty fucking tamales out on their fucking like bed. Really? And were and they had like do help dude helping making them and shit. And they were selling fucking tamales and shit and like Somales are not easy when you have all the ingredients. Dude. And they take a long day. Well they got nothing but time. Yeah. That's that is the one thing is a there's a like

The foods that you normally would like piping hot, they're not hot. They're like cold or war you know. It's like a walk in tamale. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But uh yeah, I mean that's just like there's so many other crazy things I've seen'em make. Like it's just like I'm impressed that they can make alcohol at all. Right. But

They do. Yeah. I mean you've y again you have to do it. But yeah, it's it's it's something. That's the deal. With with making it distill like distilling anything and making something anything ferment. It just requires patience.

Honestly, if you fuck with it too early, if you're in some somewhere for a year, you're gonna make you can make wine. You might actu accidentally make wine in your underpants if you leave'em sitting on a corner too long. I was I always just wonder like how like You have to like be maybe like super slick about it because you figure like they check people's

you know, cells pretty often. Yeah. And if you're having something s ferment for a long time, it's gonna get the smell and they're gonna get busted, right? And they're gonna take it away. So that's why I wonder I wonder if Jenkum Uh like ferments faster. Now is Jenkins just a in prison thing? I feel like that's more of an out out of prison kind of

Fuck real. There is there is like As like a deer hunter, I had I have gotten a taste in prison and now I can't take the high I'm chasing the doo doo dragon. Yeah. I'm a gnarly dude. I need to get this weird high. Yeah. I don't know. Or it's a a kind of a joke. I hope I never truly know.

I really hope I never know what headspace you gotta be in to be huffing junk'em's. Is it just a fully fucking prison thing though? What do you know? I think I think that there's like it's like that thing, like there's'cause people are gonna do fentanyl and they're also gonna do fucking Jenk'em. Oh, he might survive off of fucking Jenkum. You cut him, that's what pours out. He's like Pennywise and his red balloon is a Jenkum balloon. Don't pop it, don't bop it, please.

The void is yeah, he's like, Come into the void. Fucking that didn't take a pull off this balloon. I don't want to get that the juice on me, oh reek. Dude. Yeah. No, I think I I like I'm pretty sure it's real. Okay, I hope so.

I just hope so'cause it's so fun. Yeah. It's like the funnest thing I've ever done. If any of you are listening from prison, does anyone anyone give us a call. Seven oh seven three two seven two nine eight four if you have any real life Jenkham experience. Use your one phone caller. Give us a message. You just got busted for for having your jingle balloon pop in your face. You covered in a peanut butter colored

S fucking smear. That's a doo-doo secret I wanna hear. Call up. Call up now. Anyone with real life Jenkham experience at all? See, I almost think like I and I don't want to put it on him, but I think if we know anybody that might be in the Don't you say Jacob Jacob adjacent is gonna be sloppy pockets. Sorry. Let's ask him to make some and let us know. Where you were going with it. P is that bad. Make some. Sloppy pea. We dare you.

Uh yeah, he probably has already made some. It's more of a back hustle than a side hustle, but yeah. No, but I feel like even if he hasn't fucked with it himself. He probably knows people that have like directly knows someone. So if you have P, just let us call us, let us tell us about tell us about your friend's experience or your experience. I don't know. Someone's gotta know, right? I'm not judging. I don't know. I don't know what you get into. And who knows? No judgment.

It might be fucking dude, it might be hot dog. You might be stoked on Jenkham if you had it. Maybe that's pu the problem. Hey man, a lot of people eat ass. Maybe it's just one tier above that. It's like if eating ass if eating ass is uh is a little bit of cocaine Jenkums crack. Booty crack. We don't know. We haven't done it. We can't say it's not great.

I know it's like oh I can't do crack'cause I'm gonna be addicted. Oh I can't do Jenkham'cause I'm gonna fucking love it and be addicted. Dude, I need to know. I want to know like what I just want to know if anyone knows anything. Extra add a bonus if you can describe the high. Right? Dude. Call us. It might be wild. What's that number again, Josh? Seven oh seven three two seven two nine eight four and it's not

Not just for Jenkham calls but maybe right now it is. Maybe it might yeah, this might be d fucking Jenkum June coming up here. Yeah, we just did a voicemail mess episode uh and we would love if you would call and leave us a a message. Yeah. Those are so fun. I always like doing those. Those are good times.

Yeah, people were remarking commenting about like being stoked that we kinda do these ones where we kinda pile them all together instead of doing one or two at the end of an episode. Okay, that's nice. Uh one of our patrons I think was like saying something about like basically it's like likes the chaotic like vibe of it all. So that's fun. Yeah, because it is all over the world. Yeah, it's a it's a rambler. Yeah.

Irish Cinema & Accents Appreciation

Yeah, I like that. It's nice to switch it up. Yeah. But anyway, if you know, seven oh seven three two seven two nine eight four. Yeah. They were not drinking jankum on the island, but they were drinking else one more day, they were out. If they couldn't get like they were like we have to be drunk and there's no booze left. Mm-hmm. Someone put poop into a jug and then someone else get the bull party balloons out because we are gonna be huffin' stuff. HR Huffin' stuff over here.

But I look like the two that own the bar, uh Brian and and Una are awesome. They look like pulled off there's no streets. There are there are all kinds of stuff. Okay. Yeah. That was p he's in all kinds of high profile shit. Interesting looking guy. Yeah. Like I I mean like bigger stuff. Yeah. They're both great actors and like they're unique looking people. Which I again I I appreciate that about like British and like Irish cinemas that they'll use people that aren't you know, they're not like

Everyone's a Brad Pitt, you know. It's like there's cool looking people, you know. Totally, yeah. Uh homie was in the Banshees of Indisharan, which is that rad fucking Donald Gleason, uh what's his name? Colin, crazy Irish Colin guy. Oh penguin, right? Yeah. What's the fucking name? Colin. What's why is it God damn it? Starts with an F. Colin Ferrell? No, that's not right. No, it is called ferrile. Colin Farrell. Yeah. Is that his name? That's right. That's his name, right? Yeah. Famous actor.

You you say we're like so far away that I'm like that doesn't sound right, but it it's totally it's totally him. No, no, that's that is right. Yeah. Why does that sound wrong right now? I know, I don't know why I want to throw an O in front of it. Oh Farrell. Yeah. Yeah. We wouldn't hoff in some Jenkum'cause I that sounds right. We're on Jenkum right now. Yeah. Um Dude, I am fucking on Jankum. Have a tiny car. I haven't I haven't changed these pants in a in a a long time.

It's airtight. It's like I'm microdosing Jacob All day. I mean the way the world is, I think you probably need it right now. Yeah. Give it to them. Give me those microdoses of anything different. Oh my gosh. Yeah. But oh if you guys haven't seen The Banshees of Inishiron, you you gotta see it. It's a great fucking movie. It's a Say the name again. The Banshees of Inishirin. Oh okay. I thought you said something about Sharon in there. The Banshees of Inishirin.

Uh Carrie Condon is in it. What's his fucking famous ass name? Uh goddamn Barry Kyogen is in it too. Um but it's yeah, Colin Farrell, Donald Gleason. That guy's got a wild nose for Huffin' some jankum. That Barry Kyogen guy? Oh yeah. Yeah. That guy could huff. He's an jank. Really? He's an incredible actor though. There's no doubt about that. It's a really violent movie, but also a drama. It's and it's takes place on an Irish i island. It's really great.

That's the thing, like I feel like if this was a US made movie, like if this happened on Hawaii or like anywhere else And then we're just speaking English and there's no accents and stuff. I'm like, Oh yeah, that's cool. But I love listening to Irish accents, British accents, like give it to me all fucking day long. So like Homie, what the fucking guy who's like

who's in also in Mandy the guy with the hair. Right. He's like, the fr his first line is you put that cigarette or use the the top top of your knob as a ashtray He's just told a guy he's gonna put a cigarette out in the top of his dick. As you do. I love ev like instead of saying fuck, they say feck. Yeah. Feck you you know fucking. Yeah, and there's a lot of clicking, but it's I mean, I think you could probably say it on TV here. I know, right? They're like huh Nobody knows.

But yeah, I I just I to me I just I don't know. I'm so there for like accents and stuff, especially like Irish and British. So like Me too. To me it just elevates it for me. It just makes it that much better and like man, that beach scene when it was just like pink sky, unreal. Yeah. Oh yeah. Beautiful, beautiful scenery, yeah.

Grabbers' Creature Tactics & Design

Yeah, I I love I mean Again the scenery is dope. You're on this island, they're driving around, it's like super beautiful and stuff. But it also like it lends to you know, you're trapped. Like the storm's coming, so A it's gonna be raining the whole time, water, and then everyone's fucking there. But

No one can get there to help. So like it's it's such a like, you know. And again, this movie just like takes things from all kinds of other movies. I was thinking about it too, and like, Even just saying the water thing, it's like gremlins. The face hugger thing. There's like so much that it's like other movies, you know. Kind of resembles the thing. Totally. Yeah. There's you know Alien at the end, I obviously. Yeah, with the fucking the tractor or

And like Aliens. Sorry, we've got it right podcast, right? We're movie critics, right? We gotta know these things. Hey man, Chuck Bann didn't get it right either. I s I there's a there's a couple I'm like, wait a minute. No, that's aliens, not alien.

Yeah, probably. No, he had someone else do that too. He was like, Uh go into my book. Go write my book. He kinda did that too. Yeah. He told the guy his book and then the guy wrote his book. He's sitting in his fucking feet up on his desk like let me tell you about my life. Based on an idea by me. This book. Yeah, I mean there's some cool, gross stuff. There's some fun, weird stuff. Like for a long time like one of the creepiest things, and I love it so much, is

The dude at the door. That's the best. Dude. And he is like opens the door and he's like, dude, you're fucking shitface. And he's just kinda dangling and his legs are kinda just like You can't see anything. You're like, what the fuck's going on? And they're like, to dance?

Because these feet are doing little funny things. Yeah. And it turns out it's just a fucking dangler. Yep. The grabber's dangling. Yeah. Just dangling like dude. A full dude. Bumping him on the door to knock on the door. That's this that's such a great thing. Yeah. I lo I love that and it's so creepy and you're just like, Oh

Yeah. It's like the it's like the fish uh down on the fucking bottom of the ocean that has a light on the dangler. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When have you ever seen that in a movie to dangle a human being to get you to open a door to knock on your door by s bumping with your huge tentacle

Swinging him through against the door and so that you we when you look through the people it's someone you know. And then he backs him up enough that he gets to the guy outside. Right. And then fucking chomps. Dude, when he chomps the one dude

I I I do like the way that he did it where it's like he turns completely upside the m the creature c turns completely upside down, so it's got the big mouth. It's very octopus like'cause it's got like a bottom mouth. Mm-hmm that's like kinda beaky, yeah, kinda like, you know.

Dude, I saw a fucking octopus like fuck up like what was it? Some crazy ass animal. I was like, I didn't know they could with their beak. Dude, shit crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. That beak is like gnarly. Oh, it's hard as fuck. Yeah. But um they're the aliens dude. Those things are fucking crazy. Dude, they're fucking they're crazier than anything we've seen in any of these movies. Yeah. Yeah. Cuttlefish too. Cuttlefish? The octopus and scoop. The cuttlefish have a lot of weird

things like squid can do with the camouflage and all that stuff. But it's also shape of their bodies and all that shit. She get like weird ridges and like texture to like blend in with stuff. It's bananas, dude. It's like the most alien shit that we have that we know about. And you motherfuckers are out there eating it Yum. Like they're smarter than fucking everything. They can get out of anything. They could fucking escape shit.

And then you just solve puzzles and all kinds of things. I'm gonna I you know, you see people eating'em raw and shit and things and tentacles are moving still. I'm just like, Disgusting. Yeah, don't do that. They're too smart for that. There's other things that taste like buttholes. Just eat that stuff. Yeah. A butthole. Just eat a butthole. Like a real butthole. Just eat a real butthole. People like it. Yeah.

Let's ch it's you want to step below Jane? Chew some chewy I gotta adjust the thing. Chewy and gooey. There's some cool gory stuff. There's heads flying all over the place. There's like um There's no nudity. No nudity. We'll get that out. This is a family movie, Jeff. It is a family movie. It is a family moving spec every fifteen seconds. That's okay, everyone's getting wasted. But it's for for kids too. It's for kids.

Yeah, I mean it it is it is very tame in the realm of like most things we watch in th you know for horror stuff like that Yeah. It didn't feel like over like crazy gory. No, no, no. Didn't you sex Yeah. No, it's drinking, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I didn't say but like when when he flips upside down Then he just like drops down on him like a fucking Uh fleshlight, fucking deep throat just deep yeah, fucking one one swallow. And then f he somehow gets rid of the head. Yeah, it's a pit.

Yeah. Call him. Yeah, here, take this with you. Always throwing heads at people. But also, like, wasn't that dude hell of drunk? Um I thought everyone was drunk at that point. Me too. He had to go he was so drunk he had to piss outside. No, they said you only had two beers. He said as he was leaving, he says, You've only had two pints. He's like, I gotta go.

So he just wasn't drunk enough to fuck up that big one. Yeah, the big one. A couple beers isn't gonna do it. Yeah. That's where they're saying you have to have as many beers as fucking Patty. And he's like, I had ten beers and then I had to pull off this a couple t shots of this.

And he's like like his like normal level is shit faced. So like that's why like he he was just out working and just hanging and he was fucking shit house. So like those things aren't able to even kill him. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So he's like I'll tell you a secret. I found it I think I have a sea monster at my house. Like, what? He's like, Yeah, it's my bathtub. Having a bath and laughs. He's like, Oh, okay, you're ch you're fucking with me. Right.

He's trying to be honest. He's like I d I level actual sea monster in my bathtub. And I do love that it's this weird alien that is fully like a kraken. It's like a fucking, you know, laying j huge, cool looking eggs with the marfin and shit. Yeah. Those are cool. Yeah.

I I d I mean I don't know. I dig the design. The fucking rolling is so fucking sick. I think that's a cool way to like fucking like what's the video game with a k rolling ball? Never mind. I for This is a huge rolling ball of stuff. You know that what it I forgot it's called. Oh uh

Catamari or something? Something like that. Yeah. Calamari. Calamari. Yeah. Did it make sense? Cross mineral. Yeah. Yeah. One litter difference. It makes sense. Yeah, but I mean that's a cool way for this weird thing that's a has tentacles on land to get around. Yeah. Where it's fully rolling, you know, at you fast and like

Have you seen about octopuses like walk though? That looks pretty dope. It does look dope, but pretty cool. This is not as exciting as uh like for a action movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Right. It's creepier. It is creepy. Way creepier.

But they kinda roll their tentacles to like move it's fucking strange. But the speed of this thing, like following a truck basically at the same speed as speeding truck, you know, like it's gnarly fast. Yeah. And you know, and get you but like I love that the woman driving is drunker than Everyone. Anyone there. Yep. Probably in a blacked out state. And they're letting her drive. Yeah. Yeah. She looks she does she does a really awesome job, I feel like. I feel like people like try to play drunk.

And they're like they're horrible at it. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when she f they first show are getting drunk and she's has this whole kind of moment of just being a a drunk asshole. Not an asshole, but just like a drunk person. Yeah. But she nails it. She nails it the first whole time. It's like I know that person. I've seen that. I've seen that. And even that shitty scientist who was like

Studying the he's pretty funny direct too. He's just always like, What? Huh? Whooping around. He's junk out. Trying to take pictures of the fucking monster going like you're beautiful. Fucking dipshit. Gets flicked off into the moonlight. His legs go Yeah, they're like broken in every which way. Fucking yeah. Oh. I I don't buy the relationship though.

Problematic Romance & Movie Tropes

No? No, I don't I don't buy that she's into that guy for a second. Why would she be so drunk? No, but even in the in the beginning'cause like the bartender's like she's got eyes for you, dude, you should fucking make a swing at that. She totally was into it. Why? Why would she be into that? Right, that doesn't make any sense. He's charming. He was a dick all morning long. Well the morning he's hungover, man.

Yeah. The next time he saw her he was totally nice. He was just drunk. He was a story. He's a big old red flag though. Sure. And then yeah, then he was he was creepy when he came into her room. It was too much. Passed out. Passed out. Yeah. I I don't I just don't I don't buy I don't buy the hour later she's like, Oh, I really do like you. Ha ha ha.

Well look at the look at the island. Look at the options. Okay. Exactly. But she's from the big city. Yeah, but she but you know, she's on the island for four days. Like what do you know for a week? I'm horny now. It's like what are my prospects? You got fucking DeVito, you got fucking you know, like you know. Okay, when you put it like that, I guess I guess I see it. You did visit Algo Island and this dude's the most Brad like normal guy. Yeah. This dude is Brad Pitt of Algo Island.

This floppy moppy hair. He's stoked. I mean I don't know why he's drinking his fucking, you know, sorrows away. He could be well,'cause it up until the point where she shows up. Also, no. Everyone's spoken for awesome options there. There are four women on the island and they're eighty-five. Yeah. Yeah. They're all spoken for guy. So you don't buy that. But I I still I don't know. I don't mind I don't mind it. And so I like both of them. That's nitpicky.

You gotta have a love interest or else in a movie. Yeah, y uh if you have a woman you gotta have her be into someone, right? Why would she save him otherwise? Well I mean, why would a woman say with a fucking shitty dude ever, right? So you gotta make it so they like him. Well, you know, yeah, i i it's interesting. You you'd think there would be You could get away with not doing it. In a movie where there's no sex, you could

It didn't it didn't need it. They could just be partners, you know? They could just be working buddies and they're they're in this a crazy situation together. It doesn't Why with all that shit going on would you be like, Ah, I'm drunk and I'm horny now? I know there's a monster trying to kill us, but now I wanna think about fucking your ugly face. There's there's something about I mean drunk people.

I've been there. They could I feel like they see on the on the receiving end of that. Like, wait a minute, there's no reason you should be into me. We just met. You sure? And I'm yeah, I'm good. I'm all I'm good. Yeah, when we met you were sober and you hated me. And I'm not on an island, so there's better options. Okay. Okay. But there's like

I sometimes I watch TV shows that are like police procedurals and you'll watch them and you and there's a couple of things that are refreshing. One of'em is that there's men and women working together and there's no love interest. You're like that's r that's nice. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't always have to be that's not gonna happen. You don't have to you're you're usually not gonna risk th this the main star of a show of like a SVU is not gonna try something

Right. You're like, oh great. You're you're also yeah fucking with Mariska Hart Hargate or whatever. So but then also whenever there's a crime scene happening, no one's gonna fuck with the evidence. Yeah. Like once the those guys show up, that shit is secure as hell. You don't have to worry like every like that's when the story starts and that's when you know someone's gonna get got is because it's not like someone absconds with yeah or fucks with the evidence or like it's right.

You don't have to worry about it. And I'm always like, someone's gonna fuck with the evidence! Someone's gonna sneak by and steal something. Fuck with the fingerprint. Like, no, they're all professionals. Don't worry. There was that that added angle though, like the scientist guy Smith, like

He was digging on her too, and so there was like some funny weird stuff between him and the dude, cop, you know, they're like be jealous of each other and shit. So there it was like that added part where it's like if you're not gonna be like,

If they were just like no there was no interest there, there would be you know there is your answer actually. Why is she into him? Because the guy she was actually into got flicked off into the distance by a monster and she's watched it happen. She's like, Oh well now there well, now my choice is made. Easy. Yeah. I'm going with option B, I guess. The creature picked. Picked and flicked. Yeah, man.

When she kicked one of those fleshlights, it was pretty rad too and she booted it against the wall. When she nail gunned it to the bar is also a very good one. Oh I was like stoked that when she booted that one. I was like, That's fucking funny. Man. Yeah, those little ones are everywhere. And also like this movie ends and there's there's more. There's a hell of more. And so then like then what? There's eggs everywhere. And then get huge.

'Cause I'm wondering that thing's only a few days old. How big can that thing actually get if it's getting all the blood and water it needs? Oh yeah. Well if the one that he trapped in the lobster cage was that big to fill the corner Right. Of his room. Well that was pretty fucking big. How much blood do you need? You can run out of blood pretty fast on that island.

Maybe go back into the sea and get some get some whales. It reminds me of the same thing with like Nope, where like that thing's like feeding on people, but you're like, Man, like Go you know, cows and fucking horses have way more meat and butt and bones and you know, whatever you need. Like these little fucking skinny people you're getting, you know, it's like hell of them to fucking get full.

Alien Origins: Meteorites & Carl Sagan

You know? Take a fucking yeah, a herd of fucking cattle. You're stoked. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. I have this this thought too watching this movie. And I always trip out on this when there's these kind of movies, I mean, we've seen a million of'em where there's an alien thing that comes on a meteorite. It doesn't come in a ship. It comes in a meteorite, plops down on Earth, and then goes fucking apeshit. How? Like what what is what is that? Like

It's not like that thing was like, Oh, I feel like going for a ride, I'm gonna hop on this meteorite. Like you know, it wasn't like like what it what isn't it like usually like it's trapped inside a thing and that's what it is? Like hurling through space and then it broke open when it hit.

Uh just the right yeah, the impact on the earth it just broke it open and then I'm loose now. Okay. I don't know. Like Slither's what it is. But the the thing in Slither because this had this I think it did that right. Yeah. Cause this reminded me a lot of of Slither. Also at points. Right. Um, and that thing though, but that thing had been like killing worlds, eating worlds and shit. So it had to like be traveling on its own accord.

You gotta be rugged as fuck to be able to travel on a fucking meteorite through space. Yeah. For how long? I don't know. Until you hit something? Yeah. You're gonna get hungry. Yeah, and hit until you hit something that happens to have the atmosphere you like. There's no water or blood on a meteorite. How the fuck did that thing survive? Right. Yeah. Dormant. In a little egg sac. Maybe the waters would ignited it? Like.

I don't know. Just like I'm like how okay, like this thing is obviously some kind of it's a it's a space creature. Sentient, it it knows what it needs and is looking for and it it knows well enough to dangle human bodies against doors. That's the part where I'm like, it's smart enough to like play around and can fuck around and like also smart enough to like

outsmart humans. Mm-hmm. Which that's pretty fucking smart, right? So I mean chimps can do that too. But pretty smart. Uh but yeah, I mean that like it's fairly smart for this thing just like being on a rock for fucking the millennia this randomly hitting earth and waking up. Yeah, just learning about humans in the in a matter of like a day. And it's pretty smart. Way less humans out there.

There's like barely anyone. You ate three right off the bat. So you didn't even have any kind of really interaction with them except for a yum. Maybe it gains their knowledge. Oh. That's what happens when I eat octopus. And now you're a fucking alien. Now I know all about Puss. That's why sh Yeah. Eight times. Eight times more about Puss than I you did before. But I just blend into the couch. you can't even see me in here don't eat me

Yeah, I just I I I always wonder that in these movies where the meteorite is carrying the the alien. It never makes a whole lot of sense when you think about it like that. When you really think about it, it How does that work? Yeah. It doesn't. It doesn't. It is it's one of those things like I've read a lot of Carl Sagan books.

And he's a was a very smart man. And his opinion was that we would probably never ever see there's probably more intelligent life out there, yes, but we until we can travel the speed of light we'll never know. We'll never see it. And not to mention the universe is expanding at such a rate that once this

once this iteration of humankind goes away, we'll never learn the things that this uh the that we learned this time around. Right. So it's like it's bleak and it's hopeless about as far as seeing alien life in our time. Totally. That's the theory. Like there was a there's also a course at the junior college here in town that was was called like extraterrestrial life and the whole point of it was to be like, Yeah, we'll never see it.

Here's the math why we'll never see it. No, they haven't visited. We we will never see it. Unless we're made from extraterrestrial life. People think that though. Right? Yeah. Right? Sh in evolution they fucking came down and jizzed into the water and then you know why you're making that voice? Cause that's the shit that's fun at parties. Let's talk about it. That's the fun shit. Let's make a fucking movie, dude. Fuck it, drink some jankum and fucking goes out, dude. I am high on jankum.

I wanna talk about alien how we're all alien fucking chimps to make Man. Yeah, that shit's way more fun than no. Yeah. Yes is always way more fun than no. And God And fucking aliens and fucking werewolves. Fuck yeah. No though. I mean like

The Impact of AI on Authenticity

Let's keep talking about it. What if yeah? Yeah, what if dude. What if? I mean I got fucking eight hundred and fifty titles on this wall that's what if people spend billions on what if. On a real tip though. Do you guys believe that we've been visit this earth has been visited by aliens? No, I read too much Carl Sagan, like he was just a no. I don't think so. Not yet. Carl Sagan also. So what do you think is all that shit?

every sighting, every th every like thing that people have talked about being abducted. I mean it's so much of it obviously is just people being crazy or people being fucking uh delusional or people whatever. Or people microdosing Jenkham. Yeah. People having a gas leak in their house. Uh Russians that were deformed that they sh put into a fucking thing and shot it over to the US and it cracks open and there's all those aliens. Well no, those are deformed kids.

Right. Right. Well, I mean I I experienced the like sleep paralysis and all that weird shit that comes with that. Yeah. So that m reminds me of a lot of the stuff that people are saying about being abducted in their bedroom at night and like you have these weird hallucinogenic Experiences when you're half awake, half asleep, and your body can't move. And so that that explains some of it. Yeah, sure. I feel I feel like there is

Like what is the real stuff, right? Like not the real I say real. But let's say I see whatever the footage of people say that it's a uh flying object or what I don't know. Yeah, like what what are you doing? I don't try I don't trust anything on the fucking lion anymore. Sure, but even before

AI, which obviously now you're really c I we we were talking about this anyways, like uh just like you can't trust I can't trust anything now. I literally can't fucking trust anything. No, that's trust has been eliminated. There's been all these photos that have been coming out all of a sudden of

Behind the scenes stuff from the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre filming. Yeah, I sent you one because I was like, Is this real? Yeah. This is a cool photo, but I don't know if it's real. Right. And the and the problem is is that most of those people are dead. So like There's a few that are are still alive.

But like I'm curious to like know like if they actually will like authenticate that stuff or whatever because there's there there was one photo that I kinda believe may might be real, but also like where was this stuff? Where do we never saw we never saw this stuff like for all these years? Well there is that like There's now a bigger interest for it. More people know about it. It's become more like people people that edit were taking pictures of

People are always taking pictures of stuff back in the day. Yeah. But but like you'd think you'd seen every picture, right? So but it's th those are the people that were offering it up. Now you're like, Oh well th my mom was worked on this movie and she took a bunch of pictures and She died and she never cared to give it out. But check this out. I'm gonna sell these for fucking ten grand. Yeah. But but I think they only had one photographer on s on the set because it was a it was a

Made from pennies, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And super hot. They couldn't have a million people m right, you know, paparazzian around. They didn't know what they had. Somehow it was me and I was running around getting to selfies with everybody in all the movies. And then Matthew McConaughey too was there from the fourth one. How was that?

I can't trust anything with my eyes now and I and I question it and I it's because I've fallen for so much shit now. Yeah. And I'm like, oh I can't even recognize AI anymore. Like it's hard past that point. To like get duped. Yeah. And constantly. Constantly. And then also to be like Rad, I thought that video of this chubby lady falling through a stage

uh was real and it wasn't. And somebody just destroyed a city of water to fucking create this stupid video that I just watched for ten seconds. You know? Yeah. But There's a photo that of and there's and again again it's weird that there's not one of these, but there this one came out recently. One photo of Uh Gunnar Hansen without his mask on, but with the the costume on. Okay. Um

So he's wearing all the clothes which he wore, which we know he only had one set. He wore the whole thing for the whole time. It reeked, yeah. And uh and there's literally one photograph of him walking, I believe I think Marilyn's in the picture. Uh maybe or maybe it's um Hooper. I don't know. But there's like it's just kinda like a side profile. He doesn't have his mask. He's not even like really like the main subject of the photo. But it looks legit, but again I I can't fucking say.

I don't trust. I don't know if it's not the main focus if he he wouldn't want to have that mask on all the time. Oh absolutely not. But every other b behind the scene photo that's ever been shown, he's wearing a mask. Right. Every single one. Everything. Ever everyone else is hanging out, fucking chilling. Well here's another thing too that that um I'm experiencing well doing this museum show that just came out and we s it's running all summer. We'll talk about it in a minute. But there's uh

my wife's a photographer and she shot a ton in the nineties bands and stuff in the in the early to late nineties, into the two thousands. And sure, she took pictures of my band, she took pictures of your bands. And then

Together we all chose one or two of those pictures. And those are the ones we put out. Sure, and there's a lot of things. And so yeah, there's five or ten shoots of the of of a band during a certain time. You've seen one or two from all those five shoots. You're forgetting there's thirty to forty pictures. Rolls and rolls of film that no one ever saw because they didn't want to be a little bit more than a little bit.

actually print it, physically print it. Yeah. And or have it scanned at a professional place'cause that's how we did it back in the day. So we're going through these pictures, seeing whole proof sheets, seeing being able to scan all the negatives, going, Holy shit, there's a great picture of these people that are no longer with us. They're And there's this rolls and rolls of it that we just neglected to we we we chose. We pick and chow to choose. And

It's that could be the same. When some you see four or five pictures from the Texas Angel Masker suit There's probably rolls and rolls of film that they shot over weeks. Yeah, there might be but like why didn't that stuff get brought to light sooner? It's not like I mean, yes, it's fucking popular now, but it's been popular forever. Well yeah, you're a photographer too. You've you've one

If someone's like, Oh, go get me more pictures and they're like, Well, they're I'm moving on to the next project and they're also tucked my negatives are in a box somewhere. But like yeah, you know, I I stood in line for a long time to meet Gunnar Hansen when I was fifteen. Yeah. In the fucking nineties. And popular's fucked in. Like you know, you think like someone would have tried to cash in on shit then or very much so like when the remake happened and there was a big fucking boom again and

There's animatronics and masks and all this stuff. You think whoever had that stuff would be like, Oh money? And this whole month I was curating this museum show, uh, there's one photographer I know, me and the actual I wasn't curating it, I was designing for it, but Gay was curating it. And we were trying, we're on this photographer, like, dude, you have the best pictures. We've seen them before because we tried to do other projects in the past. that never panned out or whatever. But now

This is the place. Like this is now is the time to show these pictures. Right. And he was like Yeah, I'm just not... I don't want to go dig him up. I've dug him up in the past. I don't w I don't want to go through him. Wow. And then he was at the show going like I really should've gone through'em. I really should have fucking done it. And I was like, dude, it's not too late. Do your own show. You have so much stuff, like eventually you can do your own show. But

Like it's just it's hard for people to go get up, get motivated, go through their shit if they've moved on to other things in their life. But if it's money But it w how much money was it for thirty, forty years? Like it wasn't money until

twenty five years after the movie was I mean, there was they're they were pumping that shit up with Vangoria in the fucking eighties. Right. Like it it could you know, it would have been some money then, but it would have been a fucking butt ton of money in the fucking early two thousands or now Right. You know. But I I just I don't know. I don't I don't know if I can if I can believe it.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre Reboot Critique

And I want to. Believe me, I want to. I'm I want that especially the one the one that you sent me. Was it Marilyn? Yes. Supposedly it's Marilyn Burns. Marilyn Burns wearing the the pretty lady mask. Yeah. Which like you would think that was that that's a that's a keeper. Yeah. That's a banger. Like why wouldn't that have ever came out? Why wouldn't anyone you know like

Right. Why wouldn't Maryland be like, Oh hey, I want that mask or that photo of me in the mask or you know, I don't know, like it just seems weird that like Yeah, you're gonna see those pictures be like, You're gonna go, Okay, I believe it. It's real. Then you're gonna see one of them like With a fucking iPhone. Yeah. No, that's not real. Twelve fingers. Yeah. Gunnar Hans has got a Freddy glove on. You know what the fuck Yeah. I don't know. It's it's hard to tell with some of this old man.

The one I sent you was like I can't tell I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. And there's like There was a handful of photos and that are th they've had a ton of like ones that were behind the scenes photos that are authenticated. They've been used now for like the fiftieth anniversary stuff and all that, and they've been like

you know, rescanned and like done you know, like they have their they're fucking beautiful. Like you can see every little fucking everything. You'd think they would be they would scan more. If there were more you'd think they would scan more. Right. Especially for the fiftieth anniversary. Granted that's just like last year, but like Still it it's just I don't know. I I

If AI wasn't around, I would buy it. Right. But now I can't fucking believe anything, so I'm just like, it's bullshit. Yeah. It is it's hard. I mean it's yeah. It's good to air on that. Yeah. Not be tricked. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah. Now I'm I'm on my subbox. We kind of already talked about it, I think, last episode maybe. A little bit about the New Texas Yeah. What's the kid's what's the kid's name? Something Curry? Curry Barker. Yes.

So yeah, so there's this and believe okay, like I think a little especially last time too. There's a there's a youngin' the guy hired He's a grown man He's a youngin'. Uh there's a th like uh a young man of twenty five. Hm. uh is going to be making the new Texas Chainsaw movie through A twenty four. You know what we need? Another one. Yeah. To quote DJ Collin, another one, please. And I'd heard about and I heard about this and like of course I was like no and I was not on board.

'Cause I never am. Uh but I think I'll be you know, proven Correct? In a in a matter of months. So far, the uh the odds are it's going to suck. And of course, like no one had heard him say anything about it until he did. And then I'm like Nope. Nope. Nah, it ain't the thing, bro. Nope. It ain't the thing. Yeah. Did Josh did I don't know if Josh has heard what this guy's saying about. So he's like talking about like

Well again he's like, Oh, I have so much respect for the movies and stuff. He's like, I saw my the first movie I saw, horror movie uh when I was a kid was the two thousand three remake. Loved it. Loved loved it. That's what I'm trying to re I'm actually remaking that. He talks about how those movies had some of the things that he really liked were like they're focusing on some more of the family members and some of the weird shit. And like I'm like, dude.

Yeah, but it's also it makes it sound like those other movies didn't focus on the family members. Like the first one didn't have a family The whole thing is the the end of the movie It's not Leatherface the fucking movie, bro. No. Yeah, it's about a family of fucking freaky deekies. Family of Dracula's. And you got I mean, so shut the fuck up out, focus more on the family. It's always been about the family. Get the fuck out of here is family. We're doing little side stories.

We're gonna do little I don't know but okay, like th my problem too is that like I really can't Like we have Jim Sideout for two movies as the fucking cook. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh and like I just can't I can't like like it if it's not Jim. I'm sorry. And if it's like I got gym and I have fucking like The the original family, like, okay, cool. Couldn't even get all of them for the second movie, but at least you had Chop Top, which like

That was a fucking lucky break. Like that just happened because Bill Mosley fucking rules. Happened because Toby Hooper rules and he did both. Totally. That's a good thing. But also like He was obsessed with Texas Chainsaw, the the real movie, the original movie, Bill Mosley. And so like he made a parody of it and that's how he was hired. But like

I just like for me those two movies, like that's the family. That's what I want to have as the family. When you start adding like the one movie that they did where Bill Mosley actually played the cook. For like five seconds and Gunnar Hansen was in it for a second too. There's like fucking twenty people in the living room now. And it's supposed to be right after fucking Marilyn busted out the window and got in the truck. Right.

They're all upstairs sleeping. It's like who the fuck are all these people? It's insane. So like that was the dumbest thing like ever. And like, granted, like Bill did a pretty decent job as the cook for the thirty seconds we saw him, but And what I like about the original movies is that felt like real people. Yeah. Like I legit thought this was a real family, this was almost a documentary that they were making.

How would you that was that was great about it. The other movies like the the two thousand three one, like yeah, those are actors. It feels very actory. It's polished and like just like the first one when you have the ho homeboy that they never revisit outside the gas station going to always like wash the windows and stuff. I know. Show me more of him. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I want to know his story. What's up? His actual story.

Yeah. But uh but that the reason is because he's so odd and so but not so odd that it's unbelievable. He's just like, oh, something's way off about that dude. And then the first time you see the first Texas Chance of the Massacre movie, when you see the cook

in at the gas station and then he shows up later you're like, Oh no, not this fucking guy. Yeah,'cause you just seem like a normal weirdo. You just think it's like a passing encounter. Yeah. Like he's an old guy. Because he's not like so he doesn't look weird. Right. He you know, I mean he

Yeah. But like I love the look. It looks like a dick it looks like a fucking guy who would own a gas station in the fucking middle of Texas. Like that's that's what he looks like, you know. He probably is b born and raised within three miles of that spot. Right. He's been there his whole life. And just like, you know, working in the fucking butcher thing or fucking slaughterhouse or owning the gas station. Mm-hmm.

But I just I can't imagine what Curry Barker is gonna do because like I just I I can't imagine it being good. Even w Whatever he does, I don't think it's gonna be good. I know that's it. Since the second one they haven't nailed that family dynamic at all. Nope. In any of the other ones. They've always been super out there and like too high high like

Unrealistic and just like so cartoonish. Show me all the m more nipple rings. More nipple rings, more fucking robot legs and things. What the fuck is happening? Yeah. Come on. It's it's absurd. It's gone it's gone so uh insane and out out of control. Because he's like, Oh my wanna like still respect the originals and like I wanna, you know

He's like saying originals meaning the two thousand three one. Yeah. He is he is meaning it. Yeah. Fully. That's his that's fully originals. Yeah, that's where he's coming from.'Cause like I wanna know'cause he doesn't say this in the little it was a you know, quick little video interview thing, but like I wanna know, sir. How long was it after you saw the two thousand three one that you actually saw the nineteen seventy four?

Oh, I'm not into Chainsaw movie. Oh, nothing looks stupid. It looks like fucking two millimeter film. Yeah. And like granted, like I'm so down for young people making horror movies. Like I'm I'm sorry. Like I know it sounds like I'm a fucking old coot and I don't want A young person making a fucking No but you don't want someone touching your beloved franchise. You love it so much. So far no one's came and everyone's fucked it. Anything that's made me be like, oh

It's made me be like, I need to go wipe my ass with whatever this is gonna be. I mean, I hope that he proves everybody wrong and it's one of the gr greatest It's it's s second only to part two and part one. I think it's impossible. I honestly think it's a I think it probably is too.

I think that it doesn't need to happen. I think that I think it's a huge waste of time and money. What are you doing? Are there not enough of these movies that you've done poorly? Right. Yeah. So let's have another one that's not gonna make its fucking budget back.

Yeah. The element of surprise is gone. We know what these movies are. We know what what people want out out of'em now. No more Texas Chainsaw movies, no more Weezer albums. We're fucking done. We're done. I heard a Weezer song in the store the other day and I was like Who's this? This sounds like some crazy pop punk thing, but it kinda sounds like fucking what's the nuggets from Weezer?

I had to do the little thing and I was like, oh, it's like a new Weezer alb album song. I was like, what the fuck? I know. They make new albums all the time. That's not my business. I I I wanna apologize to Eric Stafford for what I said just now. Oh I'm sorry. I I I know I get heated and I I can't help it because I just like now that he actually said something and it was like I was like, Oh, okay, he's gonna say something, let me hear what he's gotta say.

And I'm just like, at least he's claiming to like it. Remember when they made remade Nightmare on Elm Street and he's like I don't even like these fucking movies. F uh J uh Friday the thirteenth reboot was like not into them or something like that. Not interested, yeah. Like what do you what are you doing? Who's doing this? Like you know. But like

Freddy Krueger & Franchise Fatigue

I don't know. It's funny like to think about a kid m who's twenty five years old like Yeah. I mean I do I do hope when they if they're obviously gonna make it that he does his own thing. Sure. Do sh surprise me with something like may Like it's so just different, you're like, Oh, yeah. At least at least take it a swing. Don't just like w I don't want a carbon copy of the the two thousand three remake or the original. I we have those movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Try try something else. Do something w I mean two a is a good example. Like so different. Right. So fucking Totally different. Yeah. Everything's different. And that and it and it worked. It works. It it worked really totally worked. And it it was c sure it was cartoonian over the top and nuts.

Dennis Honger fucking swinging chainsaws around. The kind of tone of it was just it kind of Franklin's uncle? Somehow works. Is that who he was? Yeah. Still, Toby Hooper had he has license to do those things. Like if you're gonna have someone lose like Go cuckoo. Yeah. Like he's the guy.'Cause he never thought Hooper was like never like, oh like this is gonna be a franchise. Yeah. That was never like anything that he was thinking, right. You know. So I don't know. I mean none of these guys work.

I know. When they started all off, you don't never no one thinks West Craven didn't think it was going to be a franchise. Right. No, not at all. Didn't want to come back and do another one. It's supposed to be a one and done. Yeah. I did hear th recently that Robert Ingham was like, I'll I'll never be afraid of you again. Like he actually said finally, like I'll never do it again.

I'm too old now. I don't I'm I'm not gonna do it. But if we got him in a fucking one of them get fucking mo cap mo cap suit, he could do it. You just gotta put on some spandex. Some pin palls he can do it. Like I'm not even gonna put on spandex. No I don't want anyone to see me in spandex right now. Someone's gotta act But it's it's his body language is so specific it

There's no one can fucking do it like it, man. I'm it's never gonna be good again. I mean maybe someone could if they studied it and uh cared about it and also No one's gonna have that face, no one's gonna have his body language. They redid Art the Clown's face for the different actor and it worked.

And it's it's specifically the nose and the teeth and everything that's gotta be It's basically the same though, it's the original, just like Yeah, but but he's just like a skinnier dude. Yeah, but but the earlier versions wasn't Much of a character like Freddy Cougar is a sure yeah full-blown character. Right. Yeah. Especially when you have somebody talking. It's one thing with Jason and there's like,

Fifteen people have played him. He never speaks. Michael Meyer's the same way. He's you don't have to worry about him talking. Who cares? Like you can put whoever in the fucking costume, whatever. But Leatherface doesn't speak, but Leatherface has crazy fucking like physical stuff. And even though Gunner wasn't in part two, Bill Johnson did a good job and so did uh I'm fucking forgetting his name right now, but the other guy who played did the stunt stuff.

Oh he was w wile wily in part one. He was fast. Like he's a f one of the fast there all those guys are. Yeah. You know, like but they're but it's still like I c if you if you know, if he was still alive, if you had Gunner in the movie doing Leatherface, I could tell. I could tell it was him. You could tell, yeah. For sure. You know, like it would be Obvious, like where that's not the case. But like with Freddie, it's the same thing. Like

His because it's not only his body, it's not only the way he looks, he's also speaking and it's all of it combined. And is and he's a great, great actor. Yeah. Like he's selling the shit out of it. He's he's scary and funny all at the same time. That's fucking hard to do. Yeah. Yeah.

And he it just got a look about his f his face and his features. It was just a very specific look that just fucking works. And I don't think we need another nightmare movie either. I want one so bad. You want one? I'm with with Robert Ing. I just feel like when I watch through the the franchise

I'm just dying to have more. Especially when they're so live. I did a rewatch of all of them recently. Like fuck, I just need more. I watched the fucking TV series because I was so the first couple episodes of the TV series are pretty satisfying. Pretty satisfying, but it's a trash.

show. Yeah. And you're just getting slivers. Because I just want more. It's so good. Well, and especially in the Libya everything's happening where everybody's hopping up. What, eight movies? Like not enough. It's just not enough, man. It's just weird that like No one is I mean, I don't know if it's because of licensing or whatever, but like that no one had tried to get him in the fucking glove again since the serious. Well, some T V show got him in.

Oh, that's right. That's crazy. Which one was that? Was it what show was that? It's the guy that's the gal the one the one the one gal from uh The fucking parody cop show, uh Reno nine one one. Yeah. She plays the mom. Blonde plays the mom. What the fuck is that? I can't remember what that show was. I've never seen it or really heard of it. It's like we it's almost like they're trying to make it look like Mary with Children.

Or like something like that, like an eighties family like show, like psychcom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know the one you're talking about. Yeah. Um But they got'em the fucking Goldbergs or something. That Goldbergs. Is that it? Is that it? Yep. Yeah, yeah. Right. But yeah, they they were able to you know. But it's just weird that no one they didn't try to like Cash in on that sooner? Like I'm shocked. He I probably like

In the early two thousands he probably still would have done it again. Fully. Yeah. I mean he wasn't he wasn't working much running around Santa Rosa with a glove on. Yeah. And nowadays, dude, and we talked about this a million times, but like the silicone masks that you can make too, even if you had to wear a mask, it's one piece and it looks fucking beautiful. I feel like someone else could as long as it looked like his face, like when they d had the

Jackie Earl Haley one. It looked like hell. Like it it was the wrong look. And he's a great actor, so it's really disappointing to see see that fail so hard'cause I It's like well if anyone can do it, maybe maybe he could do it. He couldn't do it. It's not a it's not even his fault for the most part. No, it's definitely the movie's fault. The director and the writing

It's horrible, horrible. And I love that director too. He made some of my favorite music videos. Really? Yeah. But he blew it in that movie. Shitty blew it. I just think that like people need to stop being greedy. Just because they want money, because people know this franchise, I think you should just make new shit. I'm sure that twenty five year old Curry Barker could think of something different and new that no one's thought about or Talk to somebody else and get a st buy another story.

Like who knows? That could be your next fucking terrifier. That could be your next fucking your franchise you're gonna fucking blow the fuck out. Original ideas are so much more valuable than rehashing something old that everyone's suddenly. In the long run. Big picture style. Yeah, absolutely. It's a thing. Don't be in a fucking cover band if you ought want to make songs that other people will cover in the future. Like, you know, d write original things. Take the risk to write original things

for the hope that it sticks because it's so much more to original things. Music or movies or Whatever. And rehashing something like that. And it's not like people can't do good cover songs. They do. Sure. Good remakes. They do. They do. They do. But they're so much more rare than Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Other Movies & Full Moon Exploits

Nine times out of ten it's gonna be shit. Yeah. Yeah. You'll never make a nitfall is if you are stuck making a fucking Yeah. Another Texas chance on me. I watched finally watched uh under the Silver Lake. Enjoy it. I liked it. I loved it. Yeah. I think about it all the time. Not at all. But it's weird. It's very weird. And dark. Yeah. I I I dug it. Really well done. I want to. I do like the directly fine. And you know what I

I I watched another Spider Man with fucking Garfield and what uh Maguire. Mm-hmm. And I uh Maguire's just I can't I can't back him. I'm sorry. After I've read that book about him as a real person, I cannot back him at all. I know we talked about this before, but like watching it again I'm just like There's something about his just face without even he's not even talking and I'm like

I don't buy it. Yeah. I don't buy you. How are you a movie star? I have no clue. I have no clue. That doesn't make any sense to me. Is he anything else besides fucking He's fully punchable. Fully punchable. I don't usually think that about a lot of people, but I'm I'll fucking punch a Toby. No Garfield in that movie shines. Yeah. Shines. And he shines in fucking under the silver lake. I I feel like I'm too far behind to catch up to the Spider-Man's.

'Cause I want to, but I've never even seen a Tom Holland Spider Man movie except Maybe I think they're the best the best spider man. That's what I hear. That's what I hear. Yeah. He's the dope. He's dope. He's killing it. He's killing it. I there's too much going on. There's too many Spider-Mans. There's too many full moon movies to watch. Why would I watch a movie well? You know how many Trancers movies there are? There's two more with Helen Hunt I haven't seen. Helen Hunt from Twister?

Yes She's in the first three Trancers. Her first movie was Trancers One. Wow, no fucking way. She's great enough. She's like punk with like pink and blue hair. No way. Oh yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. So yeah, I'll be here.

Catching up on trancers. Yep yesterday I was at a fucking antique fair in Alameda and there was a somebody had a sealed all of the puppet masters on DVD or Blu-ray or whatever. All of them. It's like this fucking big. Huge. I'm like, I don't even know there was all those. Do we have those? Do we have it? I know we have we might have a lot of'em. I don't think we don't have that case though. But I almost was like, Oh, I should ask him to see it might be cheap and I was like, Nah

Can't even do it. Can't even fucking do it. I so we've watched one and two. We talked about'em. Yes. Have you watched three, Jeff? I've I've seen the one with has the uh the six shooter gun. That's three. Is that three? I think that's three. I think that might be three. I hear that three is uh a long time ago. It's one of the better ones. Yeah. Um that might be where it ends.

But I don't know.'Cause then they're talking about the newer ones like Barbara Crampern and Lilith's right. Oh yeah, that's right. I was gonna say we s w what we haven't seen Demonic Toys versus Puppet Master, which I want to. In that book, he taught he made fucking crawl space, dude. He's talking about Klaus Kinski on set. Dude. What did he say about him?

He was a gem and a pleasure to work with. Yeah, right. Yeah. He told the same stories we'd heard, but from a slightly different angle. It was great. That him sliding around that fucking little skateboard and the fucking ducks. I'll never get out of my mind. It's burned. But then it but it believe it was definitely Charles Mann's idea to go, why don't we just throw uh make him a Nazi?

He just makes everything a Nazi. Little strike, biggest right. Loves it. I just love a right. Yeah, divisive, you're like I'll throw it a swastika. When in doubt, make him a Nazi. No one'll like him. He's not wrong. It's a it's it makes sense. Yeah. And then throw on some lipstick. I don't know. Fuck. Oh. The lipstick makes me like you more. Don't make me sympathize with a Nazi'cause you want to be pretty Nazi. Yeah. Like because you doing that, you would have been killed by the Nazis. Right.

Yep. But he's he's gone crazy. He doesn't know. He's he cr he's yeah, he crossed the line. Both the actor and the character. Yeah. Oh the the one and the same. Bad shit. Uh

Grabbers' Final Verdict & Watchability

We're we're we're running long. So grabbers you guys. Grabbers. Thumbs up, thumbs down, tentacles up, tentacles down. Thumbs down for me. Thumbs down. You didn't like this is one I wish I had watched with my wife.

Yeah. I think she would have liked it. Really? You didn't like it at all? Jabers didn't grab me. Didn't grab me. Didn't grab ya? Didn't grab me. No. I'm afraid not. I've I've been trying to be like super positive about this whole time. I don't want to be a negative Nancy, but I yeah, it wasn't it wasn't for me. I like seeing I mean I l I like it. I thought it was fun.

It's it's probably I've heard of No, I just more I'm just more just like no, it's fine. I wish you would have said something earlier. Why? So we could argue something. I don't wanna argue about it. No. I wanna fight you. It's it's it's it's objectively a fine movie. It just it just doesn't appeal to me like

Specifically, me as an individual special snowflake person. It's not your cup of stuff. It's just not my cup of stuff. Yeah. I there's movies like Uh when you think of big creature features that are inevitably going to have digital effects and stuff.

I've never seen the host, even though it's Bong Jun Ho and I really love that person's movies. Yeah. I don't know why, but when I see a tentacle coming out of the ocean I'm like, I don't know if I want to watch that. I think I know what that's gonna be like. But I hear it's a good movie. Yeah.

Um but there's also like I think of that movie Monsters. Do you remember that movie Monsters? It's like these folks trying to rules. Gareth Edwards monsters? That movie rules. Gareth Edwards monsters, the guy who did uh Godzilla and stuff. I think so, yeah. It was like

But there's people in like the the monster. You're trying to drive across like Mexico to Right. Yeah, to the US. That movie rules. I mean, that movie rules. I really enjoyed that movie. I've never seen it but I like that director a lot. Yeah. I'd recommend that one, but it also is big giant monsters.

I do love the distance. I do love it. But there's also just like this this whole story with these people and like yeah, it's like it's more. It's like way more layer than just like a monster movie. Yeah. It is it's a it's a drama with monsters in it. And it's not even too scary. It's just cool looking. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Um but one thing

Uh so we just what what we gotta watch out for Jeff is a tentacle easy. He doesn't like a tentacle. CGI tentacle is just takes me right out of movie. That was when I picked this I was like man, like there's there's a couple put like uh physical, like actual like rubber Props in this movie of these things?

But mostly it's computer graphics. And I'm like and I I kinda figured that you definitely would be bumped. And you know what, me, I don't really like comedy horror movies so much. It takes a special comedy horror movie Most most times I just it's a The comedy will never land for me. It does take turn at one point. When I realized it was like they have to get really drunk and that's what the movie's gonna be about, I was like

Okay, I'm on board for this. Sure, but it is like I love, I mean, I love World's End. That's one of my favorite movies, and certainly one of my favorite movies, which is just dudes getting trash. Yeah, and so people some people really like that kind of thing. Yeah. It just doesn't click f for my my taste. I did my wife came and watched the uh the second part of it and she was like

Should we go to Ireland? It looks really pretty. It looks really yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was looking up yeah, for the I think it's called County Donegal is the name of that. Yeah. And I was like, Mm, interesting. You weren't wrong to choose this one. I mean like big creatures, I lo we love creatures, you know. All there's a lot of good things that seem seemed uh up my alley but it just I don't know, didn't it didn't land.

And like also surprisingly for us, like this thing is on IMDb, it's rated like six point three, which is pretty good. Pretty pretty fucking high for us. And I would imagine just putting it on randomly. It was probably pretty thrilling. Right,'cause y how often does that happen where I'm like, Oh, halfway through this movie I'm turning it off. Yeah. This is garbage. Major duds that you're gonna sit through, but I was fully watchable. I mean, I really like it. I watched it

Three times now? Totally. I feel like when I I whenever I see something that's'cause I it's an IFC movie, I'm like, okay, it's not gonna be trash. It's gonna be good. Mm-hmm. And then Also it was on canopy which I like.

Yeah. It's also on shutter too, for free. So I figured I figured it was. I think there's a certain yeah, when I look in the IMDb and I'm like, oh okay, that that means shutter. When they say AMC plus they mean shutter. Yeah. But it's funny it doesn't say that w on on on IMDB IMDB, like it doesn't actually say

have the shutter logo or anything. So I they never do. I was like, I'm pretty sure I've watched this multiple times on Shutter and I went and looked and it's like there. Yeah. What the fuck? Whatever I'm like I look at it, I'm like, it's one of those cool if it if it says IF C it's probably on can canopy too, which is cool. So yeah, I'm

Quality's high. I liked it. You give it a thumbs up? I gave it a thumbs up. Yeah, I liked it. Um I wouldn't I would watch it again'cause it's I think it's really fun and I love I like the application. uh abilities for sure. And I think it's a it could be yeah, I mean Again, I think you could show this to a lot of people that you couldn't show a lot of the movies we watch to. Absolutely. Just because it is fairly like

It chills. It could be a good entry point for some people. I did it was unexpected that it was so family friendly because I was like, Brian's picking this and I know he's seen it before. I feel I I think the vibe is that he's seen it before and maybe there's something really gnarly at the end that prepping for. Yeah. I was happy with it.

I kinda wanna'cause you were talking about some other freaky shit. I almost picked the suckling again. Like dude I almost picked the suckling. I just read all about hideous. How could and you we we're due for a hideous watch. Yeah. I'll let you pick that. But no, like I've had suckling on dick. For a while. But I'm like, oh man, we man.

Decent. Yeah. Watchable, yeah. We're we're looking to watch this at home in the middle of the day, maybe, and don't want anyone I don't want to have to smash another computer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate it. I appreciate w picking picking a a good, easy pick to like watch to sit through and not something like so atrocious. Some rotten ones this year. Yeah, we've got to do that. This year for the podcast? It's been a good thing.

Yeah. I stepped this huge pile of shit. It's that last movie you picked. And we all picked them. It's not gonna lie. Our hands are dirty. Yeah. Not clean. I'm hoping that this mov like there's some people that have like watched this now and are actually like stoked. That'd be great because they probably didn't know about it.

or they'd seen it and just like didn't watch it for whatever reason. But I I like I do think that people will like this movie. That's like my favorite thing of doing this is like introducing people to like cool shit. Yeah. That's that's the best. Yeah, I'm like, oh this is this is actually something that I know that people probably haven't seen. Yeah. But it's actually like one that I c I feel comfortable and

Totally. You know, I don't have to be like, It's the suckling, it's great. Like you know from Spider Labyrinth Times I'm the guy who fits all ease. I know you w you gotta pick something of high quality just to every once I give yourself a give yourself a peek from which to leap. Well especially because Jeff a Jeff went with demons, you know, and we did demons too. So like those ones are like known. Yeah, people know people loved them. They were fun.

Wonderful. So I was like, okay, we're kind of up here right now. So like Don't forget I picked visitor though. That's true. But at least you did that before. It had some magic. But now we're like we're we were at the demons.

So I was like, Oh, I can't pick fucking suckling. That's gonna we're that's just flushiness right down the drain. So let me let me go with this, it'll at least like kind of even things out a little bit. We're gonna take a gradual hike down to the oil. I appre I appreciate it, big time.

Full Moon Summer & Obscure Picks

It's coming. It's coming. I know it is. I was worried. I was worried this summer like wait till the last second to tell us what it is. Yeah. Ooh, it's gonna be a stinker. Ooh, it's gonna be a bad one. I guess it wasn't. It wasn't I'll tell you what, boys, it's about to be a full moon summer. Hope you guys are ready for some dog shit. Yeah, I mean I it's been a minute. I guess I'm kinda ready for some of it. I mean we've we have I haven't been tempted myself. Yeah. Hey, just uh just take the

Take the guards off. If you feel like there's a full moon picture you want to watch, Just know I am interested. You have got probably a teetering thumb up ready to fucking snap. Just start picking things to get you to stuff. I'm gonna get thumbs up. Oh my gosh, if you're looking Yeah. I am on board. Okay. Just know. Okay. I mean I'm I'm I'm kind of on that by the end of the summer I'll be sick of it and I'll put a ban on the band. So yeah. But

Right now. Yeah, burn yourself one too many times. Primed. Primed. We've been dabbling a lot in the Italian stuff. People have been hyped and we have a another Italian movie coming in. It's a Patreon pick. Uh and it sounds like a lot of the full moon stuff is filmed in Italy, so Josh, tell me, you you read the book now, what's the one that's highest on your list of interest to watch? Mm. Besides Ginger Dead Man.

Oh you did say Ginger Debian. Ginger Wits up there'cause that's got Gary Busey in person in it. We should do that for December. That should be a fucking A Christmas pick. Is it a Christmas pick? Is that specific to Christmas? Gingerbreadman? Yeah. I think it is. Okay. Yeah. If it isn't great, let's do it.

No, full moon. That'll be our so which December which full moon pick are we picking f for every month? Should we get the calendar out and like I I'll tell you I'm not gonna pick Ginger Dead Man versus Evil Bong. That's not evil bong movies are not in my

No, I'm not interested yet. Yeah. But I am interested. On my own personal time I'll be transferring. That's for me. That's just for us for you. I'll just be doing that. I tried watching that movie Ouija's. That's like the weird ghoulie weed movie. Oh my lord. Oh that's a full moon fucking picture. That looks unwatchable. It is. I turned it off. Me and Dylan tried to watch it and like I could not believe how horrible it was. And you'll sit through some stuff. Oh. But that looks uh I'm

The three of us, I will sit through the stinkiest. Yeah. I will dude. I love dude. One of the movies I really want to watch with you guys is Parasite. The three D movie that Stan Winston did the effects for, Demi Moore's first movie. It's full moon. Oh, you've talked about this. Yeah, it's Empire. Right. But see, I I feel like That movie feels like those other ones that like he just bought the rights to to distribute it. Well, he was on set. He made it. What? Yeah.

He was there. Interesting. Whoa. Interesting. Um I'm definitely feels like that at least. Like I I'm I'm reminding myself, Homie made Terravision, it is incredible. It's fun. Totally fun. It's an incredible movie. Um I don't care to watch any more subspecies movies. I'm cool off it. Even though you we should know that if we like subspecies at all, he shot the other two immediately after.

Back to back. Oh no doubt he had that castle, right? Yeah the cast he shot those in Romania. He built a film studio in Romania. Did he use his own castle for them? No. Didn't even use that castle. I don't know if he had his castle at the at point. He's using OPC dude, other people's castles. And that guy's makeup couldn't he they only had one, so they had they're like keep filming. Film another movie. Yeah. Oh that worked. Extremely cheap. Do it again. I am interested in hideous. I'm sorry.

It's on my ring. So you know I'm a I'm a half chub. I have to go back'cause there's a couple others that showed up where Richard Mole shows back up as the dungeon master character. Well there's other movies with more that Beekler does with more ghoulies. There's more ghoulie movies. Bring well talks about troll and the Harry Potter controversy. He talks really brings it up. He's got there's so much for him to talk about. Yeah. It's crazy.

I mean you think about how many movies that he's produced. Yeah. Oh just it's insane. Yeah. Crazy amount. And how many of'em he's somehow just made franchises of. And I don't understand it. The whole the entire spin-offs of like kids' movies that you grew up watching, like prehisteria and those other cool crazy Dragon World. Yeah. All that bullshit. Ha ha. I gotta go I might have to

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You know, do the deft tones qualify a little bit? I think early. If Manson's lumped in there, Deftones are lumped in there. Yeah. We got all that. We got it all. I don't think Manson's new metal, but It was the same that it was that generation. He said to tell you he's he thinks it's uh new metal adjacent. Yeah.

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