¶ Intro / Opening
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¶ Intro & Clint Howard Discussion
Oh clunt, how hard. How good you look these days. You guys did you guys watch? Yes. Did you guys see that uh trailer for the new ice cream man? No, no. No. Well how's it look, buddy? Tell us. It's not trying to be like that. Yeah. But there's basically w it's like there's a weird weird ice cream, but he's not even like as weird as Clint. Like I think he should have still used Clint or someone weird like that.
It it's a shame if he didn't. Whatever, dude. But he's not the thing is he's doing something to kids to make the kids kill. So kids are killing. And it's like gnarly. Stuff like that. It's like super gnarly. It speaks to you, I know. Uh but it's like super like brutal. And it's like cre you know, like I'm sure like every one of those kids had to like sign off hard with their parents, like just like we're gonna get into some gnarly shit. Like
Just full on like hatcheting fucking, you know, adults and shit and just like doing gnarly stuff. Yeah. So there's like something in the ice cream that's like making the kids crazy. So Which is better, but like also I'm like, I just want that. I want Clint. I want Clint. Yeah, I would love another Clint. Yeah. Clint doesn't have to be a it doesn't have to be a young man. He can still be a yeah, an old ice cream man. It seems creepy scarier. Yeah. Yeah.
Don't have him shave even. No have him shave, have him wear his weird little sandals that he wears out at his conventions. Yeah. You know? Keep it creeping, man. Yeah. J legitimately creeping. Yeah, let's see them towns. Don't get him in the cream. I was I was a little I was a little bit bummed that it wasn't like that. And like I've been talking to Siler about like yeah, just like'cause he's excited for it. Um and I was just like, oh man, but I just like I don't know. I I like I like Clint.
We all like Clint. I'm I have a I'm bent toward Clint. Yeah. You know? I've got a a clink. For those of you that well, even even watchers and listeners, we have a Clint Howard Mask from Was it thirty is it thirty one. No, no, not thirty one. Uh fuck. What's the SQL double reject? There's a tag right there. Can you see it? Oh um Three from Hell. Three from Hell. You could see. Also old guys even with glasses can't see.
Yeah. But yeah, we have a mask of him, he has the clown makeup on, it's Clint Howard, but it's on a sexy mannequin body, just chill him looking at us. Wasn't uh was the clown names like Baggy Briches or something like that? I don't know. It's called no. I'm trying to erase that from my mind. I've seen both of those movies in theaters with you guys and I am displeased with both of them. I've watched Thirty One and Three From Hell again.
Why why'd you do that? Fool me once. I can't. I can't do it, ma'am.
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¶ The Choice: Demons (1985)
No, that episode It was your pick. It was my pick. No, you kinda picked it like a champ'cause you were like We've been watching dog shit. Yeah. Let me pick something that people actually know and love. Let's do demons.
So you did I I've been I've been really wanting to see this again for I haven't watched it in a long time and I'm like dude this has so much stuff that we love. Why have we not done this? The preview you are about to watch is for a movie that is unlike any you have ever seen before. It is for a movie that goes beyond temporary fear to everlasting terror. It is a movie called Yes, the demons are coming.
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Warning, if you have the courage to see demons sit near. Otherwise, you might never. In your theater, who will survive the touch of With music by Billy Idol. crew, the adventures, Rick. and Saxon.
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They will make cemeteries their cathedrals.
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Will you survive it?
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¶ Initial Impressions & Film Aesthetics
It's crazy that we haven't done it yet, right? Yeah. And like, yeah, it's wild. Um takes place in that fucking theater, there's glowing eyed demons and sh uh come on, we just all our shit. Yeah, it's I love it. I have never seen this movie in its entirety. Oh really? I've seen Most of it now that I've watched it today and I was like, Oh I've seen most of this movie but
Never finished it. You never seen it as a movie. I feel like the end I always forget about too. Yeah. Because the end is forgettable. It's a it it's it it's a zombie movie with Uh demons. Instead of zombies. Yeah. So instead of zombies, it's called Demani. Yeah. Yeah.
And it's yeah, I mean it's still produced by Argeno and it's fucking uh Lumberto Bava directed. Yeah. Who he's made all kinds of fun rad Italian horror stuff. For sure. Including Demons Two, which I I think it's I think it's a pretty good looking movie. You know for like a budget horror movie? Yeah.
made in Germany, like I think it's it's pretty good looking. I mean I'm a sucker for the fucking theater stuff and project some creepy thing on screen and people running around in the theater. I'm I'm all about that. I do love it. I'm all about it. So that's I'm a pretty easy sell for me on this.
¶ Demons' Place in Horror & Personal History
It's one of those movies that like I feel and again. But it is like one of those movies that like it's so much in like the zeitgeist of like horror like stuff. You you've seen it. You know, there's always there's t shirts, there's fucking pins, there's sh everything we've seen to reference this movie. Oh yeah. Um I met the gal, uh Greta uh Greta who she goes by now but in the movie her I think she's credited as g as Greta Gia Giacomo or something like that.
But um she's like the black lady that becomes the first cool in real life and stuff. She let me take a portrait of her and stuff like a Polaroid portrait and like that's awesome. She's rad. But um yeah, so it's just funny, like I just saw you Even though I hadn't finished this movie, I knew this movie, you know. So it's just funny'cause I always just consider like, Oh, I've seen it but
There's parts I haven't. The my my first experience with this movie was seeing it I guess I saw it in the Encyclopedia of Horror Films and so I was m for sure eager to see it and I rented it on VHS. And I brought it back home to when I was in this goth band and I saw a c a number of scenes and I was like, I need to
tape these into the video montage that we're doing for a stage show. So like the guy the eyeless guy crawling down the stairs and um the the girl curetta pulling his eyes out and all these all these other scenes ended up in this video montage that we would play on stage. Um, but I didn't remember how it went and how the end was and wh what the guy with the metal face? I'd love that.
¶ Plot Absurdity & Supernatural Elements
How what like for a budge movie, they fucking dropped a fucking helicopter in a movie. Yeah, I don't know how. I didn't even just the all the yeah seemed more expensive than the entire rest of the movie. You know, just like doing all the shit outside. Yeah. I'm like, whoa. What the fuck? But that was I I did not remember the helicopter or know about the helicopter. So when that happened.
And also that hole's not big enough for a helicopter. Oh especially like how would the the things still work? The blades like they're all. It's fast paced enough that I don't even care. I know, it gets it gets into it. Like it in ten minutes we got we got demons attacking, all right. It's pretty great. Yeah, it's like it's actually really like I can't I remember looking at my watch and being like, uh
Right. This is already going this hard? Um goes hard. What what else are they gonna do? Like they're gonna run out of story real fast. And you're right. And they start borrowing from other movies. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, wait a minute, we like that scene in Dawn of the Dead with a helicopter.
Why don't we just drop a helicopter? Because apparently they must be have been destroying this movie theater, right? This movie theater must have been d demolishing. They tore up all the fucking seats. I'm like, oh no, but it was a descent because I don't know if it was a real movie theater.
Really? Yeah, because the outside is a real place. That was a real club and it's still there in Berlin. It's still it's still there. It's not the club anymore, but it was actually called Club Metropol. Mm-hmm. The logo and everything was all the same. They just kept it. That's cool. Great. So but
I don't know what I I'm wondering if it was it just a a set could have been just a set with just an old theater park.'Ca the the stairs all the stairs didn't make a whole lot of sense for that one theater. Sure. And I I was confused by how big that theater was. And it seemed like there was multiple ones.'Cause I would feel like they would run into another one
And there wasn't as many barrage of curtains for no reason and like where are we? Where are we in this theater with so many curtains? But it kinda seems like there is some weird supernaturalness happening to things, right? Yes. Because I don't remember either the part.
¶ Demon Design & Character Peculiarities
them getting sealed in. Right. Like the fucking doors are just sealed all of a sudden. Well it's a wall. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like somebody just went in there and like brick by brick laid that way they're watching half a movie. No, yeah. Totally supernatural. Yeah. Getting them there, the golden tickets to get'em there. Right.
And the actual and the things happening in the movie that are happening in real life. Right. But the guy with a metal face is Michelle Saavi, who directed Cemetery Man. Oh. Oh yeah. Is that right? Crazy. Yeah. He's he's an actor ish as well. I I love that look though. And like he's also in the movie, the movie that's happening.
Oh that's him too. He's the dude that's in the movies. He's he's like the main demon. Yeah, or like the guy that he doesn't have the fucking metal face yet, but like he's like one of those ma the main guys. And I was like, wait a second. Yeah.'Cause they did I was I saw the name come up, I'm like, I know the name Michelle Swabi and then I saw it again, it's like with Michelle Swabi, then later on it's like
And also with Michelle Sawavi. I'm like, you motherfuckers. He's like, I get double billion on the credits, please. Yeah. Please. And I get paid twice too. But uh I mean, that look is fucking tight. It's great. Yeah. I like it better than the mask. The mask is sick, but like But even like the the real demon that like like the mask is based off of where that finally pops up, amazing. Yeah.
It reminds me of something but I do love it. But it's f oh dude, out the back, out that lady's back. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Lil Lil Demon, little fucking whatever that was. That was great. There there's a there's a how many of you see there's a phantasm one or th there's a phantasm scene like that, but it he almost looks like little baby Freddie Krueger coming out of the back, but
It's like a weird little demon thing. When you see his face and like oh right, it's that demon. I forgot about that demon. He's the most iconic demon in the whole movie. Yeah. It's like kinda they all kinda look the same. Like And he gets it with a helicopter or is it a different demon? Well that's a thing I think it's a different one but the
It's just like I think when they actually they grow into that. Yeah, when they're fully demonized, they look like that thing. Okay. And they all kind of look similar, but everyone everyone else is just kind of like half demonied. They're just like, you know, they still have their same hairdo and shit and like all that stuff. So but I love the look and I I love that it's got like
It's it's its own little universe. It's not a zombie thing, it's not evil dead, it's somewhere in between. Yeah, exactly. But it is like it's the same way that it's transmitted where if you're bit or scratched, you get it. So it feels like Night of the Demons. is also this universal of course, but it's an American version of it and But it feels like the same kind of
look kind of similar. Yeah, it's always big teeth, crazy eyes, deep voice. Which is I appreciate it. Give me some claws and some gnarly teeth. Yeah. At least, at the very least. Shing sticking out. What's going on? It's very gross. And I was very hyped on that. Like I was like, Oh yeah, this is fucking sick. There's all kinds of fluids happening. It's almost like Sam Raimi amounts of just like that fucking demon fell from the balcony and then
Splats all over this girl and barfs all this fucking shit all over her. It's like good lord. Yeah, I was disappointed when the show hit a minute or two later and she's all dry and I'm like Yeah, that you should be fucking glistening. That would have been so sick, like just like fucking'cause then she's like kissing her boyfriend. I'm like, no way. Ew. Oh you smell good. Like you're you're fucking tainted.
But yeah, it was sick. I w I was like, dude, there is just like so much shit pouring out of people. And all of it was green or crazy yellow and orange or like shit. Oh yeah, the colors of this movie are great too. Yeah, and yeah, the pus colours are fantastical. What is it with like gouging the eyes and oh my god, all that fucking shit like Italian horror movies and their colours are fucking dope. It's great. Yeah, they're uh almost like a creep shows comic booky, like just bright
Yeah. It just looks it just looks cooler. I don't know, it's just beautiful. Yeah,'cause Creep Show came after Susperia, right? Yes. It must have, yeah. Yeah, seventy se right? Seventy seven I think? I think so, yeah. And uh Creep Show is like early eighties. Yeah. 'Cause like I feel like Creep Show very much like borrowed that palette from Susperia. Like the Susperia colours are almost exactly the same. Yeah, the red lights and purple and the blue and the red, like there's like this whole yeah.
¶ Italian Horror Flaws & Unexpected Pleasures
But um but yeah, I just like I don't know. I don't like a lot of w we watched a handful of Italian horror movies and Some of'em are so fucking slow and boring and um. Well, this does suffer from some of the similar issues like bad dubbing, of course, or dubbing. It starts off good, ends up bad. Hate hate hate the fucking it's the same old Thing of low budget movies having uh all their characters just be a holes.
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.'Cause they always even if they'd be like, Oh, that's all you're always like that. Even before there's demons like that's you, you suck. Jesus Christ. Is everyone a fucking raging prick? Yeah. Every single person It sucks. It's a it's annoying that it's like the why is the writing so so bad like that? Even the girls like friend is a shithead. Yeah, everyone's everyone's like in a bad mood. Yeah. Come on.
Everybody. Got pi the guy with the ball guy, black guy with the sideburns with his two ladies. My favorite guy. He's great. But he's a but also he's a fucking dick. Yeah. I mean he's he is called Tony the Pimp. I mean I think he's supposed to be, but he's called Tony the Pimp. Yeah. The that look. He called he called them his friends. But my friend I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah. Respect. Um But the floating the floating uh fucking
Sideburns. You don't like that? You don't like that bald but have sideburns? It trips me out so much. Well I see what you mean. I thought they were floating off of his face. No, but basically could be. I mean there's just no hair, no hair. Cyber. I like the look. Why? Like what is it though? It's like it's like you cut a cut a piece of burnt toast in in a triangle and stuck it on either side. I can't believe everyone. He had like the craziest ideas.
Well let's destroy everything. Okay. Like this. Do it like this. Just like starts smashing shit. Whoa, whoa. What a dumb fuck too. Like cause he d wasn't right. No. He got bit so fast. Oh he got bit like by multiple demons ate his ass. That's the thing too, like when he when Homegirl first gets got in uh the bathroom. She puts the mask on just like an asshole. Like an asshole would.
Um like yeah, trying to prank her homie. It doesn't belong to you. What do you think? Dummy? Anyway, she she gets got in the bathroom, squirts. squirts a pustule out and then is uh is a demon. Meanwhile, Tony the Pampa guess. His name is Tony the Friend Lapin. Tony the Friend. Tony Tony the homie was Tony the pal. He was he's like
God, where are the fuck is where did she even go? Where like dog she's taking a shit even. Yeah, light a cigarette, calm down. Shut up. Just chill out. Watch a movie. Is anyone watching the movie? Why does it if Everyone hates this movie. You're right. No one is enjoying the movie. It's a free movie and everyone's still complaining. Yeah, but they seem scared enough. Sure. Well why don't you like Which is fine? And the very blind guy in the movie?
With his Yeah, I can't believe I'm mentioned that guy. What what's happening, Liz? Tell me what's happening. So annoyed. You better be up top. It's like you're so annoyed right now, bro. Keep it down, old timer. Before your daughter's even over here fucking getting finger banked. You're you're yelling. You're y you're yelling and then like you supposed to smell him too. Yeah. What's going on over the next to him? Hey.
What are you doing, Liz? Are we I smell some man's lips on you And then what about like so yeah, he loses eyes, but we did he really even have his eyes? Well Yeah. No difference. There's no difference. Demon out because you don't have eyes? I don't know. Because you can't see the movie? I don't know. By all rights he should have been demonized.
Well maybe it was slow. He was at the end. Was he? Yeah. He grabbed the gun and got fucking his fingers blunt off. And wasn't yeah, wasn't he the guy that killed the cops outside too and started the whole thing? Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah. Weird though, but it that yeah,'cause he should have been like sitting there talking to them. Fucking eyes out. Oh my poor Liz. Like you're like, dude, ch what? Put your sunglasses back on. Show some decency.
Look away. Look at your fucking eye holes. I think you might even have eyeballs on your cheeks resting. Would you please put the come on. But that whole thing like why like just like this is silly. Let's have a blind man go to the movie. Well here's the thing Is that is that a joke? The movie said this will be like some ironic joke. The only th the only problem I have with this movie is that it's total nonsense. Like I enjoy the look of it. I enjoy the so many shots. Like especially
Tony the pal and his homies coming up from the light and the shadows in the ceiling, the most iconic thing you've ever seen in this movie. Glowing eyes. Best little smoke behind'em. Ooh. It's incredible. But what for? What's a music video? Why though? Where are they going even? They remind me a lot too of um Demon Knight. The Demon Knight demons are borrowing I like it. From the uh the quintessential demon movie, right? Yeah. Hell yeah.
I love it. I love it, man. And I I love all the sh the shit demon projected on the fucking screen. Yeah. So fucking it's a little bit. I mean the scene with the woman behind the thing. Gain fucking murk. As the m lady on the screen, it's a good thing. That's real screaming. It's Dolby. Fucking fuck right off. Do you know that that guy's married to the little blonde punk in real life? Oh really?
Titty Punk. I I like Titty Punk. She reminded me of the little fucking She was the best. The little feral cave kid from Mad Max. She's kind of like yeah, Road Warrior. She was great. I loved when she demoned out and she's just running all over the fucking after Motorcycle? That scene is But I'm confused about so hyped on that scene. No, but it's so dude. Yeah. Oh yeah. What is happening? How are you rolling over the seats like that? You're a fucking magic. That guy was such a fucking
little puss weenie at the beginning of the movie and then now he's also fucking sword. Let's not forget that he was also pushing himself on these girl you know, him and his buddy just like really pushing themselves on these girls. They didn't they didn't ask for that. No. They said next time you said, Oh, sorry. Hey you can grab me, ooh, I grabbed you, ooh. I know just like sitting down next to women that don't want to sit next to them. Right. Fucking huge theater.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't like any of that. He has to save this woman the whole movie that she doesn't have like any agency. Agency of her own or Yeah. Yeah, and he ends up being like an actual motorcycle ninja. How'd that happen? What? Dude. But and that went on so long. There must have been like fill in time'cause it just how many how many times can you circle the theater? But that's what I feel like I feel like it was going into different theaters.
Like it was going into like it went through like the main one and I felt like it went through another one, went up the stairs and like I felt like it went through another one. I don't I don't think so,'cause I I keep seeing the the tear in the screen. Yeah, I think there's only one th one theater, but like the
Continuity of how things work in that theater. Maybe that's the supernatural part. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. You got one center and the other one. Just like a pork. A loop. Yeah. What the fuck? I'm into that. It's like the beyond in the middle of the theater. Sure, sure. Okay. Yeah, okay. I I'll buy that. I'll take that. Sure. It's Italian. Just Zip it and watch. And by zip it I mean your pants'cause you have your wiener out'cause it's cause you're a fucking pervy old Italian.
Why can't the dubbing ever be okay? Why is the foley and the dubbing always the worst in these movies? It just is. We said it before, I think you said it. It starts good and it just loses itself in as it goes. Like that's good, one take, it's fine. We'll just keep it rolling. Yeah, it starts off like it was strong at the beginning. I'm like, Oh wow. It didn't take long, but it's Yeah. The sinking is terrible. The footstep fole is always so bad. Sure. I just hate I hate it.
And but in the realm of like Italian movies we've watched and like that stuff, I'll take the shitty uh dub over just like How much good stuff there is to look at in this. Sure. Because normally we don't get that even. Yeah, there's a ton. We just get like a bunch of bad dubbing and like maybe one thing and you're like, what? It is a total treat to look at. So yeah, you can forgive it. But like even the the you know, what's his name, the friend
Ken. The floating sideburns. Oh yeah. Tony the Friendy. Uh dude, his w who who did his voice? It wasn't that guy. It wasn't that guy, right? There's no way it was that guy. It was kind of racist the way they did his voice. Like it was probably like they're like Have a white guy do what he thinks Tony the pimp would sound like.
It's uncomfortable. Right. Yeah, for sure. It's so stereo stereotypical. He's cool. He's got a great look, but like, I wanna know what his real voice is. I don't like this fake voice. That's the thing about this. This cartoony fucking Scary man voice. Don't do it like that. Do it like that. Like Whoa. That d stunt man normally. You know I could tell. Yeah.
¶ Over-the-Top Action & Soundtrack
I could tell that he not not only was he, but there was also the guy he was thrashing also was'cause he picked a man up, stood on the chairs and smashed him into other chairs and like, Oh, they're both stunt guys. Yeah. That's cool. They they obviously cast him'cause he looks cool, but he also could take a fucking dive. You know'cause he dives off that fucking edge with two people. Dude, that's that shit is so good. That guy gets hung.
I think that's amazing. It looks killer. And then that they have two other people hanging off the gun. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? It's amazing. Yeah. There's so many good little bits in this fucking movie. Crazy. No wonder it's like the most like popular DM movie. Yeah. And really I I you know, I think if you th think about Italian horror, it's up there top couple, right? It's one of the first I think of myself. And uh
I man, that fucking motorcycle sequence, I know it's long, but like I was clapping. The music, the fucking sick ass fucking music in it, that some fucking metal song fucking just going and like Yeah, it was like maybe Saxon? One of those it was either Saxon or it was Except, one of those two bands which I like both of them. I've already played the crew in the very beginning of the movie. Okay. Yeah. The oh, I was just like so I'm I'm like, okay.
We have demons. Yeah. We have a dude on a motorcycle with a chick. With a samurai sword. I mean this is like chopping demons. Was is this a dream for when I was twelve? Like what the fuck is happening right now? Like this is exactly what I want.
And they throw it up on the thing and then they z zips up to the ceiling, escapes to the zombies, and then like a guy with a metal face is there. It's yeah, okay, go to bed, Brian. Good night, Brian. Good then, mom, and then and then Yeah. You're too much fucking licorice, dude. You are out of your And then there's cocaine in a coke bottle and it gets on her tits. What the fuck is that? Like the the scene is so long of him scraping Coke off of her teeth with a razor blade. What is that?
It's ridiculous. Looking at it for a while, then she gets a little hot about it, and then she's like, Wait a second. Well, you're about to zip ow. Yeah. Like, well, I said, are you shaving or nip? It looked fine. There's no hairs. It's fine. Scraping up some cute. Suck that off. That'll be better for you. I th were they boyfriend and girlfriend or were they just homies? Was she just a homie? Uh she's a tight homie though. That's uh I don't know. Yeah. She's she's my favorite character.
She's awesome. She she rules. Any and all of the coked out punkers are my favorite characters. Like it's just like the profile was outrageous. W were they in the subway at the beginning too? Uh different punks, but I think that's a good one. Fuck yeah. It's funny how like in this era Punks are always in movies like bad people, like gang members and shitheads, people always like
fucking things up and getting chaotic. But like all the punks and goths and metalheads I've ever met are like the nicest Yeah, doing good things, like trying to help out fucking the homeless or something. But in these in the movies always like oh they they look
So evil and bad and so they're always like sh the biggest shitheads. Yeah. Punk exploitation, dude. Seriously. Like I don't hate it. It's just it's just a weird thing. Yeah. Yeah, you want to have an unhinged, coked out psycho I was like can't what the fuck are these pe uh are these four gonna be like Like saving these folks. Folks like somehow like are they somehow the like they should have. So I was like what are they like what's the point?
More fodder. Like we have so many people in the theater and you're gonna bring even more people for no reason. So you don't really see anybody any of those guys get it. Like you see the girl get attacked, but you don't see her change. No one You see them all having been changed. Right. Yeah. But I did enjoy having a moment outside the theater though. Oh yeah, that's a good thing. I guess they they
created the opening for the outside, you know or whatever,'cause that's when they showed up the door comes open and right one of the dem the the blind demon comes out and starts fucking the apocalypse I guess outside. Yeah. And it is that. It's that. It's a fucking zombie apocalypse but
¶ Sequels, Naming & Genre Tropes
Yeah. A demon apocalypse. I want to see twenty eight demons later. Did you watch the ha have you guys seen the trailer for Demons Two? It's the yeah, apartment complex, right? Yeah, it's like an apartment complex. I think someone watches it on TV and that's what happens.
Yeah, there's there's a t it's a T V and it's like a video drome T V scene where it stretches out there's but there's a zombie face. I've seen that in Fangoria before. Oh yeah, also looks great. Fucking Tony the Pimp is in it again. Tony the Fred? Nah, it's the same character though. I did read that. Different same actor, for sure. And also fucking members. No this that guy is a cop. In the trailer at least. I watched the trailer. I love you're bringing like two of the most like
Recognizable. They'll know no one will ever know who these guys are. It's like Return of the Living Dead 2. Like wait a second. Alright, it's like We've been here before. Wait. Well these guys look great on camera. Let's get them in again. Yeah, gotta have'em in. But they died.
Well that's okay. No one's gonna watch both. I read something too that this movie was released as Demons Two and this Demons Two was released as Demons One somewhere. Fuck off. That's so stupid. Zombie Well Dawn of the Dead was released as zombie in the Right in Italy and then Zombie was they're going to eat you was released as Zombie Two in Italy.
What are we doing? Dominic is night of the living dead too. Stop snoring that coke out of a can. Yeah, right. Is it tell you what, Italians, get your fucking act. Let's have some consistency. Tell'em, Josh. Fucking I Make a little sense. If only I am. This is this is a message to all of Italy in this early 80s. To the boot. Get it together. Sort it out. Like just Give a shit. A little bit of a shit.
Man. Yeah. It's definitely one of the best Italian horror movies we've seen. It's so fun. It's so fun. Yeah. It really is. It's fun as fuck. If I had to pick the Itali my favorite Italian horror movies, it Zombie is up there, high up there. Yeah. Even though it's boring. 'Cause it's got a couple of really unreal things in it. And then um this one's up there.
Yeah. No, Suspiria is my favorite, but I again I haven't watched everything, so I don't know but Suspiria phenomena, those are you can't fuck with those. Argento. Oh great. Oh great. Let's go. Yeah. So yeah. So we'll be c we'll be kicking on the boot a little longer. Yeah. Well bad dubbing, more. Yeah. Can't wait to
Not hear what I'm seeing and not see what I'm hearing. I can't believe my ears and eyes. Is it like the director's sitting in for the dubbing originally and then he gets tired and goes home? And they keep doing it, but everybody's just like drinking and doesn't care. Let it roll. No no yeah. No doing it again. No trying to sink. No, it's already passed.
They're just doing it live, you know. Okay, play Fuck it, we're doing it live. There you go. You all got a mic. There's your screen. Don't look at my eye. And then just someone in the background just like clopping uh cups to make the foot sounds. Definitely coconuts. Old timey radio shit. Yeah man. That's what it fucking sounds like. It's Yeah. It's that's it's laughable. And it's a it's like a fucking joke. Yeah. Like, why? I mean we du we talked so much about why. It's cause they don't care.
Get your shit together. Get it together. Like, I'll tell you what, you know what the rest of the world does? They got a sound guy. They got a guy running sound and they're recording the movie audio as it's being shot in video. And they're keeping a record of it. You then we've got time for that. And a person that makes it so it sounds natural, it sounds right. We already have two extra people for cigarettes. Light my cigarette also fucking spaghetti guy.
You gotta have a spaghetti. You gotta have a spaghetti guy. He also holds the boom mic sometimes but it gets slippery. He's got that sauce on his hand, so we lose him. Yeah, he's stirring with a pot and one Yeah. Yeah, you're losing all the sound. Oh you want some sketty? Yeah. His name is Peter.
¶ Remakes, Physical Media & Streaming
Skietti Fucking Yeah, get it together. Record the vo record it. Boom I Or just do more than one take, right? Like if you're having people coming in and do an overdue. God, it just sounds so fucking funky. Get get the real actors to do their own voices, please. No, they're not gonna do that.
Why would they do that? Why would they they got other things to do, like some other bad movie with'cause they had a mouthful sketty the kids again. They're filming in Berlin and then they're gonna do all that in Italy, right? They're gonna go back so they're like, I'm not gonna fall f like fly Tony the Pimp back out to fucking Talk. I'm gonna have fucking Sketty over here talk for him. I have well, we have these four Americans chained up in a s uh sound studio.
High on screen. Can you do a black pimp? Yes, sir. I can do one. I can do I can do anything. Just don't no more sauce. Please. No. Please. Some water please. The sauce burns. The sauce burns. The reflux Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh my gosh, because please let's switch sauces. This is a good bit. It's so silly. Like it'cause y you know that I mean There's other movies coming out of Italy at this time that don't do that.
That are also guessing. I'm not even saying that I don't know or show. Maybe I'm totally wrong. I was just kind of in in good faith saying that. There are incredible Italian movies. And that who whose sound is not a problem. Sure. It's these movies that are like made for a for a English speaking audience. Right. With actors from Germany, Italy,
And America. French French. France and America all the same time. No one's has a and but they want them to all sound like they're from fucking Burlington, Vermont. Like eyeball. Everyone's here incidentally from Bel Burlington, Vermont Like what? Burlington is pinner. No one's been there. Yeah. Much less from there. I d I I don't understand, like I mean there has to be Like the sp old spaghetti western, right?
In the seventies, right? That people were Well, Clint Eastwood would do his own those are big budget movies. Right. And they sound but the sound's good, right? Decent? No. They're still overdubbing. They're overdubbing but the actors are overdubbing. They're better themselves, right? Because maybe some of them are actually
Uh I don't know if all the actors are doing their voices. But then you got Charles Bronson either playing pretty rough. He's either playing a Chinese guy or he's playing a Mexican guy. Always. Makes sense. Yeah. Makes total sense. Jesus guy. No. No. What? Yeah, we it's very weird. It's fucking I like it is really like it's just like a style now they like they did it so often like that's just how we do it. That's it, yeah. That's just how we do it. We don't That's good enough. Yeah.
We've given enough to the world. Spaghetti, put it in balls, lasagna. What else do you want from the bag? What do you want? Good sound. Get out of here. Yeah, it's it's uh it's comedy.
That's the problem. It's hard to take a there's nothing that takes you out of a movie like the worst dubbing you ever saw. Right. Like I've tried to watch things like when I tried to watch the second season of Squ uh well, I guess it was Squid Game. The first time I tried to watch Squid Game, I was like, Oh, I'll watch Squid Game and it was Not an option to have the original Korean version.
with English subtitles. It was just a dubbed version. I was like, I am not going to watch that. I'm going to stop that and find a way to watch it with in the Korean language. Yeah. I do not want to watch a dubbed thing. That's distracting. It's so distracting. It's it's I would rather just read subtitles. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean everyone's doing it now anyway, it's they can't hear a fucking thing, so we're all used to it. Right. Just do it.
But I hate like they're they're like remaking th you know how movie Terrified that we did an episode on? Yeah. That movie they're like remaking an American version of that shit. I'm like, it's gonna be garbage. The movie's already great. You don't need that shit. Speaking of remakes, this one is ripe for remake, I think. Sure, but it's not There's a lot of room for improvement. Sure. We could do this better. Sure.
Not say we as America, but just we the general I mean but you mean we by you you, me and Triple Midnight can do that. We can do a way better way better demons. Much longer motorcycle scene. For sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's jumping the helicopter next. He's riding the blade. Right as it's spinning. Exactly. He's got a du peel out on his on a demon's face. Yeah, like the fucking uh Pet Cemetery Two move. Yeah.
We got the fingies. We got the fingies. Yeah. That was pretty good. That was fun. But yeah, there's soft fingers. I I I saw a lot of their fingers missing. Well, once you become a demon you get filled with that green like foam. Oh just fill yeah.
¶ Demon Lore Without Religion
So you're just you're very soft. The pesto sauce. Yes. It's acidic pesto. It's some high pH. The devil's pesto. So are demons of the devil? I mean, this one doesn't make it seem like that, but like they are, right? Like demons are from hell, right? They do the devil's bidding. Right. They're like the anti-angels? Yeah, exactly.
They'll have names you know, like and I mean some of the names that people chalk up to Satan are actually demons, right? That work for the big guy. Right. Right. Yeah. So yeah. Like supervisors. Yeah. Yeah. General managers, not the boss. Not the C not the CEO. They're not the final boss. Yeah.
Yeah. But but they're you know, they're in there. They're they're getting their their scares in. Yeah. They're having a good time. But it is it you like I normally don't like especially these days, like possession or like
Demon movies because they're always so religious, right? Like they're always chalked up. This no one's like I need a cross, I need a priest, I need like none of that. No. Thank you. That's how we would do it. Totally. Not a mention not a mention of God anywhere. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you very much. Don't need it. Yeah, don't need it. Don't want it. Is it because I sinned? I did this. Yeah, you lifted up the phone. What if she never got scratched? This movie did not happen? Yes.
I think I think it was bound to happen'cause it it's all f paranormal in there. It's like uh they're they're they're really uh they like loaded the dice. You know, it's good. They sealed everyone in, they made sure that there's a fucking hanging little mass that these
They got nothing but assholes in there. Someone's gonna grab that bag. Whoops' daughter. See, it's all on my face. Yeah. Maybe it's just a coincidence because these people are being punished that they are all the world's biggest assholes. They're being punished. There you go. That's what it is, isn't it? Yeah, maybe. He's like speaking like the He just wrangled up the fucking shitheads of the fucking. I would argue though that the main girl that's on the subway is probably the least
Shitty. She's nice. We hadn't seen what she just came from. She probably just a child that she murdered. Yeah. She jumped onto the subway like, almost got caught. The cops are after me. Yeah, we don't know what she's doing. She just came from banging her dad's boyfriend. That's I like that. That's a premise. How th that's shitty. Is it? Okay. Don't do that. Don't bang your dad's boyfriend. Think of your poor dad.
Yeah. I uh but like it is that they're shitty and it's whatever and but I'm just what like The supernatural part of it's there, but would it just because the movie would it still happen? Like the demonesque if you didn't get the mask on somehow? Oh yeah, probably. It was bound to happen. If it was the movie one way or another, yeah, they were stuck in they were stocking. Or the movie somehow seems to have some kind of influence
You'd think they could have gotten more people for free tickets to the flick, you know? I know it didn't look like there was a whole A whole lot of people there. But then there would be a lot of randos. You'd see a lot of randos show up. They're and you're like, Oh, I never seen these guys. Who are these people? Would you show up for a movie you don't know what the fucking movie is? Like, here's just a free ticket to something. To something.
They're like, hey, met Metropole the theater tonight. Do they have a time on it? I think I had a time. Yeah, I think I had a time. I there's a somebody I can't remember who it was, but somebody um back when pins were really popping, you know, pins and stuff and we were like doing trades and I had the the pin game Instagram.
Some pin maker m had uh like the ticket was a pin. Really really cool. Of course the mask was a three D version. I'd probably have it over there actually. Yeah, we we definitely have it somewhere. Somewhere. Um but like a really cool three D chromed out version of the pi of the mask, which is fucking Yeah. I'm sick. That's awesome. But um but yeah, but it has like the time and the I think the address even and stuff. So like on there. That's cool. Very cool.
I I I love how shitty the horror movie was, by the way. It's like so it looks like so much fun to make just a shittier version of a a horror movie. Yeah. I always love the movie within the movie. Yeah. It's just one of the most fun things.
Oh, I can't hear what they're saying, so I like turned it up like I'm like, why am I getting invested in the fake movie? I need to I need to be fucking listening to what's happening in this movie. Well for a minute there, nothing was happening in the real movie. We were we were absorbed in the movie. I love it.
¶ Kid Actors, Tragedies & Fangoria
I I I'm into that shit, man. I love how like we don't get any religion but we get Nostradamus. Nostradamus. Wait, what? You're the first ones to come fucking come into this weird like abandoned ass fucking spot to Well apparently not. He wasn't even his body wasn't there. Oh god, the fucking dialogue. Oh, it's in, it's in, uh, I don't know. Oh, it was, uh, yeah, um. What language language is that uh Latin. It was it's in Latin. I can't read Latin. No, yes I can.
I can't read it. I'm pretty sure Nostradamus is the same in Latin as it is whatever, right? Yeah. Fucking horse. It's like reading something in Spanish and you see the word Burger King, you're like, Oh no, I can read this. Something about Burger King. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That shit was fucking hilarious. Yeah, you're just like, Oh no, I can read it. I'm good. Don't put that on your face. Oh too late.
Scratchy face. The girl in the in the real in the theater, she's like, wait a second. Wait, that's me. It's bleeding again. It happened to you. Don't look at my eye. Don't look at both my eyes, Paul. Yeah. Uh fun. I it was really fun. I would love to see a remake. I was I was having a lot of fun with it, which is a nice
I kinda wanna see demons too, because there is a kid, a little kid a demon in it. Like you see him his chubby face on the cover. I want to see it really bad. I know I always thought it was the kid from Near Dark. It looks like it could be, but then you see the actor kid actor and it looks like Yeah. The kid from Sixteen Candles. It might be the same kid. Why did they go why did they film this in Berlin? Or like why'd they have to do it? Wait, are there the same kid? No. No? No. Okay.
Um, they're not, but they are both little bowl cutted weirdos. Have you have you looked have you looked at that? I'm pretty sure. Unless he got like real droopy Only a couple years ago. I don't know. Yeah, we dropped it out. My mind my mind's eye. Mike from Sixteen Candles could have actually been maybe thirty. He might have been w like a Webster. Yeah. He might he might have been a Webster, yeah.
Wait, which one is he? In th Sixty Annals? He's the shitty little brother. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that not true? Sam's little brother, yeah. He's he's incre uh wait, hold on. Kramer versus Kramer, maybe? Oh really? I remember watching that movie, but I don't remember it at all or who was in it. Oh no, kids in Kids and other stuff though, River's Edge, fucking Yeah, I remember him from River's Edge. And that's which one? This is the guy from Near Dark.
Yeah. He's a little shit in River's Edge, man. Holy fuck. He's cool. I like that actor. Yeah. I feel like he's has that like a kind of like weird chubby face that's kinda like Are you sick, boy? What's wrong with you? But when she was getting like more close to
you know, bad days. She got more like her face kinda got more rounded and medications and shit she was on. Did you guys watch that dog? I haven't watched it yet now. I want to watch it. Watch that. Is it good? But um but the but that kid kinda has that where it looks like it's kind of like puffy. You're like Mm-hmm. Do you need a fucking you know do I need a doctor?
I mean they did in that case. That that was terrible. They really mis misdiagnosed uh Heather. And she should've been alive. Like that was easily fixable, like what was actually wrong with her. That's fucked up. Her mom's in that, right? Oh yeah, she's all up in it. Yeah, yeah. So crazy, man. Yeah. And even the actors from Poltergeist are in it. Craig T. Nelson's up in that shit. Wow. I heard she was just such a positive.
little person to have on set. Yeah. Everyone spoke super highly of her. She seemed amazing and she didn't like complain about anything. She like c m knew her lines, could read, could hit the mark. More than anybody. She was just like so professional and so on her Incredible. Incredible. Very sad. Very sad story. Crazy. Yeah.
Anywho, what how'd we get on that now? I don't know. Puffy Kids. Puffy Puffy Kids, that's right, of course. Puffy Kids. Yeah, it looks it actually looks real fucking bad, guys. Yeah, but th there's still it looks bad. Like it's still gonna be in a good way. Yeah. It's gonna be I remember seeing the like
most of this stuff from both of these movies in Van Gorias. Like the the good shit. Yeah.'Cause they always would do that. They'd always fucking spoil the good shit. So you'd want to see the world like they got me But they got to watch it. I think it might have been yeah, it was either
They definitely got me on like when I remember right when Lost Boys was about to drop and they showed me all the fucking burn stuff from like when they were in the acid the holy water bath and stuff. Like, ooh I gotta see that. There's a poster. One of those one of those Fold out posters you get is of the blonde one like coming out of the water. I mean I know that was like spoilers, but as a kid I didn't register
Not being a spoiler c I was still like lost in the fantasy of watching a movie in those days, you know. You see the dope thing and you're like, I need to see what that's from and how it gets to there. Like that's that's yeah. So like lost in storytelling. Yeah. Yeah. But I miss like going to the fucking store and like Being like, Oh fuck, mom, there's a new Fangoria, I'll see you later.
You know. Let me know when you're done. I'll be right here. Let me know when you're done and I will and I won't budge from the spot until you drag me away. It's just fucking yeah, front to back fucking just like peruse that shit and just geek out. I miss those days, man. Good good days. Yeah. Good good good dopamine days. Yeah, oh for sure. Those those were that was a fun time. Every seven eleven I ever went, I'd be like watch a I'd read a whole goddamn Fangoria. That's right. It's insane.
Yeah. Yeah. Fucking good shit, man. They should have they should do like a big hardcover like volumes of like Nineteen eighty eight, like all the fangorians. They just released a book that's like all of'em. All of them? Well they do they're releasing like a highlight digital archive of everything. Like if you could you could pay money and get like
Essentially d digital versions of all the idea. And they did release some kind of book that's a lot of stuff. I thought it was just like the greatest hits, you know, like the goodest shit. It might have it might be. I don't know. It l it looked great though. Regardless. It looked cool as fuck. I mean any anytime we get to the right.
I don't need to spend more time on my computer. Sure. I mean we have so many of'em here. You know, like whenever I get to look through'em though, I I get that feeling again like I'm fucking twelve. Every time I look through a a magazine, even in right now.
If I was to go in there and pull any one of those off the shelf, I would see a film that I've am desperate to watch all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hundred percent. Like on what I've never even heard of. Yeah. Yeah. There's tons of that shit. Yeah. And then we watch it and we do an episode and it'll be cat shit. Yeah. The one scene that we saw a picture of is the one best thing in the whole movie.
Fucking never mind. Fuck you, Fengoria That's what I mean they're getting the meat in the seeds, they're helping out, man. How many fucking shit movies did they help out by just putting the fucking banger scene in the fucking mag? Yeah. Heather or uh fucking Linnea Quigley fucking bent over the fucking Chony shown in the store. What movie is this? Where'd that lipstick go? Well, I I enjoy demons again. It's my only really only my second time seeing it.
My first time releasing all the way through. Thank you for picking it. Yeah. Yeah, good job. I found it. Diamond in the rough guys. No one's ever working this one. No hey listeners, we're doing you a favor. Check it out. Demons. Jeff had this one on deck. We're like, Jeff, it's your turn. You're like, oh, it's my turn? Demons then. Demons. Demons. Where I was like, Like, oh I see what you did there. You picked a good one, making all of our shit look real bad.
Well he after when you pick the visitor. Yeah. Yeah. So after after that you were like I gotta I gotta rename myself. I I did it to myself. I'm not gonna do it again. I learned. I learned. Flying by the seat of my pants. See a flash of a poster and change my mind. See a picture in Fangoria and all of a sudden I have to see fucking this this. S the stupidness. Two Yeah, I we had had to switch it up a little bit. It's still it's still in our wheelhouse. It's still shitty enough. Yeah.
Plenty of it. It's well known. Like And it's well known. Yeah. People fucking know it. People will tune in to hear. For sure. For sure. And it's I mean, it is for what it is, it's a lot of fun. It's a it's a great party movie, it's a great fucking Italian horror movie. Yeah. Again, this is one of those you throw on. You don't have to have any audio.
Although the music is uh yeah, you got fucking Billy Idol on this. You got fucking Motley Crue. I was surprised that I was like they got fucking Billy Idol. That's fucking dope. I think that was just like there's like Looking around all It said I watched our the Coke can and they got it got the right. That's why they're in Berlin.
Isn't Coke supposed to pay them? They sh they should. Right. Every fucking time that anybody's watched fucking demons they're like, I need a Coke. Right. I need some powder. I need cocaine. I'm seeing it on a nipple. It works. It works better off a nipple. There were a couple of scenes where I was like, okay, I that was too the dubbing was too bad and the dialogue was too fast for me to understand. I'm backing it up.
I'm gonna see what was said with the subtitles on. See, I had my subtitles on the whole time. Did you? Which is kind of funny when you think about it. It's like inception. I'm like you know, we're watching a movie that's p in it some in Italian, some in English, then it's overdubbed, and then I'm now I'm watching the Subtitles of what the not good dubbing is saying. Yeah. Actually, when I did that, because I had just watched like two minutes, I backed it up like two minutes.
I had two minutes going like oh this makes more sense when you're watching the subtitles. It's actually less stupid'cause I'm reading and not paying fully attention to how off the snips are. But there was a scene where the the punks are like
They said something to each other right before they scattered and he said, Okay, see you in health and just ran away. I was like We should say goodbye to each other like that all the time. See you in health. See you in health. Yeah, I love that's great. Great. Start that. Yeah. Yeah. I uh dude like the the punks too, like they hated that girl.
Treat her like dog shit. And then as soon as she's like getting eaten, they're like Nina Like run after her all my precious Nina. Who else am I gonna scrape? Right. She's got like fucking twenty dollars worth of coke on her still. I'm like okay. Yeah. I'm stoked on checking demons too. I sure didn't like that demon that got her though. I that's a that's a terrible looking lady.
No, they're dude, they're fucking gross, man. They're gross and yeah, they're veiny. I like the veins. Oh, I do like the veins. That's a that's a scary look. It's cool. It's you know. I I do I do feel like they're like, We need to make something like a zombie movie, but not zombies. Mm-hmm. We're yeah, we're over it. We're over zombies. Yeah. Besides, like, you know, Dario's friends with fucking
The zombie guy from America. Yeah George. Whatever. We'll make we'll make the main character's name George. George, Kathy, and It's so f it's like so generic. It's like Cheryl and Ken. But they yeah, they they ended it just like a fucking Yeah. But the guy got scratched, so he's a demon, so what's he doing there in the back?
So he just gonna it's he's just gonna fucking vamp out in a minute? Yeah. Did he get scratched? When when was that? He uh claw got right into his shoulder and it pulled him off the motorcycle. Oh. I didn't know that was all ouch. So he he should have he should be demoning out any any moment now. That weird American family that they got in there for two seconds, the the blonde whities. Um they uh like should have been like w you know, like any other zombie movie, like, are you fucking bit?
Are you neutral? I would be suspect. I don't like it, it just ends. Well, it's gonna go into part two, Jeff. Well did not right when the credits are rolling, we do see the there's not I'm not gonna say end credits, but there's a little bit of a mid credits scene where Really? Oh I missed it then. Oh well our main girl that was dead on the ground?
No. Well you see the well'cause it goes it rolls credits and then it comes back and she's like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She's deep. And he and they fucking the little blondie fucking smokes her. Yeah. And she falls on the ground. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So our why I forget what our main girl's name is. Cheryl. She gets it. Yeah. Which is like the bummer, like they should have had the girl live. Mm-hmm.
Well that's kinda how they do it in these like there's taking that a page out of like Night of Living Dead or something like that. Your main character gets gets offed. I'm glad nowadays people will Spoiler alert. Oops, I so can I say that now and still not have it be
Yeah. I just yeah the tropes is bullshit and I mean we're still in the eighties so or you know, it's fine, but like not fine, but it's still like understandable'cause everybody was on that same phone. I mean yeah, d I mean tropes Be damned, we just saw a fucking helicopter crash into a movie theater and then
Zip line up the fucking hole. Yeah. Impressive. I'm again like cut up some demons with the blades. Who was the helicopter? What's that? Who w who was the helicopter? Who are they? Were they were they trying to like They didn't know anybody was in there or no one knew how to do that. I think it was an accident, right? Oh, okay. And it was so weird that it was like when I first saw the movie.
I didn't have subtitles on. I just was like, what? I don't hear anything. All of a sudden a helicopter comes crashing through. This one I was like watching with subtitles on at a after a certain point and I was like Helicopter. Blades. Hear the sound of helicopter blades is like in parentheses I'm like, I don't hear that. I don't hear that. They forgot that part. Yeah. And then they come through and I'm like, Oh, I I was expecting helicopters. That's why I don't like to watch hel
With subtitles on it. It really spoils things like a little early and shit. It spoils things, it's it ruins jokes. Punchlines of jokes happen. It totally ruins jokes.'Cause it timing is everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I was I again I didn't know about the helicopter thing and so something's coming through the ceiling. I thought it was gonna be a big ass demon. I was hoping for a fucking final boss. In our version that's what happened. Big hand reaches
Yeah. God damn, yeah. Yeah. That'd be fucking sick. All vaney and weird. Extra veiny. Extra weird. Comes into fucking sniffing around. Hell of meanie. Phil plays with demon jizz built around. Yeah, it's that green shit, dude. Everywhere. Pesto sauce. Fire hose. So it's puking that that PH pesto. Is there there's like a subgenre, right, of uh horror movies in theaters? Because I love it.
I can't get enough of that kind of thing. I mean, we know a handful. We've watched we've watched English. English. This one. This one. There's other ones. We w what was the one that had the It was like filmed in like Jamaica or some shit. Uh popcorn. Popcorn. Popcorn. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That one's great. Dude, there's more. Oh, which one was it that where there was a movie theater scene? Was that in we just watched it.
It was like microwave massacre spider. Remember I was like did the same bullshit. Spider Spider Labyrinth. Was there a movie in that? Was it there? There was a a movie theater scene in one of these fucking movie Oh, it was in Garbage Pale Kids, the movie. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, uh scene. Larry Nome Street four has a theater scene, of course. Scream two.
What's that? Remember the horror movie porno we did? Porno. Great, love that. Anguish is still the maybe might the winner for it. That one fucking makes you That movie will make you kill somebody. Yeah. Like literally the other night w I I watched a movie with my friend Taylor and I was like we were talking about what to watch and and
And she's like, Oh, I haven't seen Anguish yet and I'm like, I don't I don't think we should watch Anguish yet. I I'm like, I don't I don't know if I can handle it. I'm like it fucks you up. It does. It fucks you up. We watched a movie called The Cure. at the Balboa Theater, which is like another kind of weird it's a horror movie, but it's like a a Japanese like nineties. And everyone in the fucking theater was hypnotized. I'm not fucking joking. Ask Taylor, ask anybody that was there.
It fucking did something to everyone. That's awesome. And anguish is uh is like that. It really will fuck you up. I saw one in the theater that fucked me up. When I saw I saw Irreversible in the theater before I that was the first time I ever saw it.
And it is so effective in the theater. If you haven't seen this Gaspar No film Irreversible, it's a f it's kinda no fun. But um there's parts of it where you're just like there's flashing lights, there's like Shit starts going everything's at a fucking kinky angle and moving yeah, it's Seizure City, USA.
Cause Caesar City France actually But it um yeah I love movies that fuck you up in the theater. It's great. You know what I s not speaking of a theater, but like I just because we were talking about remakes and other bullshit, but like I just saw fucking they're gonna remake Possession with fucking Margaret Qually and some fucking knucklefuck. And what? Knock it off. Market quality's rad, but dude, there's no fucking way That you oughtn't do it. Insane and you don't need anything else.
Same thing about Suspiria and it were like just leave it alone. Don't do it. This thing could rule. I don't I I can't foresee as much as I think they mostly suck. There's only like a handful that actually fucking reads. They mostly suck. I I I think if we're as rad as Margaret Quali is, I don't think that she even she can pull off. What she's gonna probably go at Johnny Will go for it.
Yeah, I'm sure she m you know she's got me better, that's the only reason to fucking do it. I almost think that you should have cast fucking giant depth's daughter before fucking Margaret Quali. We've seen her go fucking hand boned and it's pretty pretty good. It's pretty good, yeah. But Margaret Qually like she she did some crazy shit in fucking uh substance for sure. But not the the level of
emotional madness that you have to fucking put yourself in to do uh that version. I don't I just don't see it being as impactful as that. I don't see them being as good actors as yeah or Sam Neal. Right. Hm. But I was really bummed I don't know. Again, it's just one of those things like why why? Plus it's so much fucking style in possession. Why would you fuck around? Yeah, were they gonna film it in fucking Phoenix? Like what the fuck like
We're in Berlin. It's fucking you know, like it's Yeah, during the Cold War like during like the the wall East and West Berlin in the yeah, so that's that's insane. Yeah. I mean like th just that that whole vibe is incredible and like
Even this I didn't realize was m the demons was m like in Berlin and they filmed it. I'm like, Why are they why why did this Italian movie go film and I would I didn't read anything about it, but I did see that when they were on the train that it was they were in Heidelberg and I was like, Oh that's They're in Germany. Why are they in Germany? So weird, right? Like they get a tax break? It's like how goes in films in Georgia now. Right. Uh or Ontario, yeah.
It's hey, why not? It looked cool. The theater was cool. It totally looked cool. You have a theater like that, shoot shoot it. Yeah. I hear they have like some horror cons and shit there now too. Oh yeah, in the yeah. Yeah. Or the club or whatever the fuck it is. Yeah.
Which would be so sick. How sick would that be? I mean they'd better show that movie on occasion. Right there. Right. Or you're blowing it. Yeah. But it's like demon. When you get inside you're like, wait, this isn't the same thing. Right. Just the outside. Like when I went to fucking Minneapolis and played at fucking First Avenue and I was like, All right. Show me the basement. And they're like, there's no basement. He did the dressing room. Exactly.
Can you show me the basement? There's a basement in the alim Exactly. There's no basement at first half. Prince didn't walk these there's no halls. Yep. Yep.
¶ Candy Corner & Off-Topic Diversions
Dziękuję, Jeff. Ja, good pick, Jeff. Thank you. Maybe that'll teach me from Josh to pick better. Well I mean what's next? Is it Josh's pick or is it my pick next? It was my pick last time. Oh, so I get it. Oh God, what do we got? Oh no. Oh bro. You look too happy. What is it gonna be? Oh we'll see. No, I could be nice and do demons too, but I'm not gonna do that. Why? Why would you I would never be nice. No. Guys, you know what's weird? I Brought in some candies.
for everyone to have. Okay. And they're not only are they good, but they're also plentiful. Oh no. Good and plenty. And then I was like, I got these good and plenties and I was like,'cause I love a black licorice. And I was uh I was like, ooh, I'll get them these wait a minute, let me just double check. A good and plenty's vegan.
The answer is hell no. I didn't think they were. I haven't And I'm like how why wouldn't they be? I haven't had'em since I was a kid. Why why wouldn't they be? Because they're just black licorice with candy coating. Right. The candy coating that's made by the devil. The candy coating has two incidences of insect parts. Tastes like it. A lot of those hard candies like used to it's like there's shellac and another color thing that's from Beetle Shells for colour. Yeah so fucked up.
Who's like out there being like, you know what we need? We need a way to like fucking farm fluffy. I don't like licorice. I really don't black licorice is horrible, Josh, I'm sorry. No no. Well I think I'm chasing the insect parts. You're going in again. I'm gonna try some more. Make sure it sucks. You're gonna be old before you finish this episode. Yeah, I mean you you think I mean, I don't know, I turned fifty, I should I should
uh by law like good and plenties there's back buckle no your taste buds change. I'm I'm trying this out. I'm trying this out. Is this the new me? You start getting you get a packet from AARP and you get a pack of good and plenties. This is where I got it from. Oh A A R P sent it to me in the mail. Honestly?
I get a thing from the mortar. It isn't as bad as I remember it being. Billy. I think I'm getting old. See, when I was really when I was young, it's true. But when I was young, I used to think that I was like it was like the thing where you're like, well, it's better than nothing. If someone you know, my grandma's got a fucking bug bunch of black licorice.
But yeah, it looks like candy. Yeah. It kinda tastes like candy. It's kinda sweet. I mean the insects are sweet. Kinda sounds kinda smells like and tastes like a road, but you know But other than that, it's you know. So I used to be excited about it. Not not excited. That's a that's a bad. I used to eat it.
Tolerate it. Well the truth is I didn't get these from the um my retirement old people, but I did get them from the market. I bought them with my own money. Damn on purpose. How much are you getting plenty cost these days? This is the small size too. Oh yeah yeah.
I know. You know's that I adore are gone. But this shit but good and plenty, I'm pretty sure that they've never changed the logo andor box. Why? Why bother? They're selling to the same people. Yeah, yeah, it's true. The same yeah. If you've got rid of the purple, not go for kids. It's the same folks who've been buying it for fucking hundred years now. There's gonna be some people are gonna some kids gonna be curious. Like, I've never had it. Good and maybe I'll try it.
It's poison. I've been to Germany. You know how medicine tastes? Worse. I went to Germany and someone's like, Oh, you got licorice? And I was like, I do like licorice. And like, here, try this. And it tasted like straight up like chemicals. It was just like the blackest licorice, no sweetness. in like a coiled like it gets blacker. It looked like a cinnamon bun, a miniature cinnamon bun that was just tar.'Cause it was like back then that was that was as good as it got.
Yum. Yum yum. You know, you're like, oh, I I get candy. Here you go. Tar. It's medicine. Tar medicine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was gonna share these with you, Brian, but I think I I'll I'll even if they were vegan, I'd be like I'm good. I urge you to abstain. But Jeff, you can have as many as you like. What do you guys think? You are fucking old, my friend. I love it. I'll try one more. I'm so happy. I can't undo it now, so why why not? What uh have you what do you guys think of Australian like?
That's super soft. Oh I like it. Yeah. What's that? You've never had that before? It's like super soft licorice. Like it's like Strawberry, cherry, fruit. Yeah, red. They have a black one at Trader Joe's. They do have black ones. But it usually comes in like little chunks, like they kinda cut it like off. Like they they it's like a huge rope that I cut into one inch lengths. Oh that's probably good.
Yeah it's delicious. Yeah. I I I just'cause a lot of people like don't like it'cause it's like not like a regular licorice, which is like tougher and like kind of you know, cheap. I don't need it to be tough. In fact these are particularly squishy. I was like I might have a fresh bag.
Oh yeah, I prefer. They make a match every fifty years. I think I got the new one. Yeah, the j they just re upped. Yeah, like Alyssa will like like she likes like stale licorice. Really? Like stale things like that. I like it so oh a fresh Soft batch of licorice. The red ooh, get out of here. I'll eat the whole thing and it's sitting. Red vines make a black licorice, right? Yeah, they do. They do, definitely. And it's
Called red vines but black liquors? Yeah. That one rules. I've been eating the strawberry uh like zero sugar one I've been eating that's fucking so good. Hell yeah. So good. Do you guys like Twizzlers? A lot of people hate Twizzers'cause they're like plastic. It it tastes kinda waxy. Yeah. I like'em. You like a twiz? Yeah. Something about that waxy toy flavoring.
This tastes like a screw. This tastes like machine oil. It goes right with your fucking plastic. Seriously. This will s uh adhere the two plastics together. You know, put em to a Twizzler fucking good and plenty. Mix them. It might be the new peanut butter and jelly full of good and plenty of inserting those into the hole. It could be the new thing for the old for anyone who smoked and doesn't have taste buds anymore. It might be the thing.
¶ Final Sponsor Mentions & Podcast Outro
Anyways, there we are. Let's thank our sponsors and get the fuck out. Yeah, let's thank um the next record store in Santa Rosa, California. Sorry, I got la I gotta put this black licorice down. The best I almost said licorice store. They are not. Well did you know that that fucking did you guys see licorice pizza? Yeah. I haven't seen it yet. I hated that movie. I did too. I did that movie. You did too? I I like it. I like the Heim Gals. Oh my god. So funny. Everyone loves it, but I
That movie sucks hated it too. It made me so mad. Except for the waterbed stuff. There was some waterbed stuff in it, I believe. I don't remember. I hated it too much. I think around that is garbage. That the whole... Term licorice pizza is was a a vintage Los Angeles record store chain. Okay. They were called licorice pizza'cause it's a circle and it's black. Yeah. Stupid. And in the movie at no point is there a record store that I remember.
No, I don't remember any of the things that they're going to do. Oh weird. I every time I hear the name of it, I think of Mystic Pizza. I'm always thinking of that movie. Oh yeah. But an I'm like, Oh, that's a new movie. I went to Mystic Pizza and ate pizza in Connecticut. Oh really? Yeah.
Oh yeah. In Mystic, Connecticut. Yeah, that was real. Okay. Yeah, it was real. Well uh is it? It might have been they might have built it after the movie. But still That's a smart move right there. It was a tourist destination. Um, in Mystic, Connecticut. Anyway. I opened up a record that I got at
the next record store the other day, a T Rex Electric Warrior vintage, like seventy seven, and pulled it out and I was I was putting it back, I realized it was in a licorice pizza sleeve. Whoa. And I was like, I don't I don't know that was a thing. Yeah, it was like a s the sleeve was from like Licorice Pizza Records in in Los Angeles. That's right. Very interesting. Licorice Pizza Records is still there, but they're more like
It's more like uh Fathom Presents. Like they do listening parties, but they don't really sell records. And they put out like LA sceners trash. Oh, so then people like basically rent it and play the records there and this vanity yeah it's it's like vanity project record releases and it's trash.
Gotcha. Um but There you go, you learn something every day. But I learned that they act but I and I had I was thinking about it'cause I hate that movie so much I I think I hate think about it all the time. I will never watch it again. I love P. T. Anderson. Anyway, the next record store dot com. Well we were so professional in the beginning of that.
And my licorice pizza sleeve from my T Rex record into the Hey, I thought I had a through line. Turns out I didn't Turns out I blew it. It was a through line. Yeah. I still yeah. It's a wiggly through line. But I wanna but the next record store is the greatest record store and I'm always finding treasures including this like little Little Easter eggs.
It was probably swapped with another slate. Right. Like that didn't come with my actual that didn't come with the original record. Right. No, it's no, it's not a release. It just happened to somehow pass through the store and get a custom
A custom insert. Anyway. Fuck yeah. Treats. Treasures. Oh. Where's uh I was there the other day, there's so many things I wanted to buy. Oh my god, they had a over the edge soundtrack. Do you guys know the the movie Over the Edge? That Matt Dillon? Oh my god, that movie rules. So good.
Yeah. I didn't know it was a I didn't know that w it was out on vinyl too. That's so fucking a second story. It might have been. Yeah. It was in the new releases I believe. It it looked cool and I wanted it so bad. Yeah. They uh yeah, we get all kinds of rad stuff in there. It's uh the next recordstore dot com. They're in Santa Rosa, California, eighteen ninety nine Mendocino Avenue. Open every single day. So go check it out. And guess what? You can get a discount with us. That's right.
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'Cause I've seen some of those over the years and sometimes you can even see'em at like antique shops and stuff and they're like loot. I can never afford one, but like The dopest ones that you've ever never seen. They're in this book, as well as like really just creepy ones and fucked up ones and they kinda just like talk about all that stuff and like
It's like high on my ri list of like once I'm gonna get there. I can't remember the name of it right now. Um and my phone's over there or else I'd be able to show you the photo. But um they had a great book uh there that I was looking at about Feminism and horror movies I really wanted to read. I can't remember the name on top of it. I took a photo of it too. Like I'm coming back for this. Yeah.
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Everything's getting so fucking expensive. None of us are gonna be able to fucking afford streaming services anymore. Go buy a book. Yeah. Get a book. You can keep on looking. Exactly. My book went away. You know what I hate about fucking buying stuff digitally? They can just remove it.
Change it, do whatever the fuck they want with it. You never own that shit for real. Buy right a record. Buy a book for real. Yeah. Buy the thing. Guys, I'll tell ya. And I'm at all times. This is not a service that pays me again. I'm gonna say it again, but I wouldn't
I was like trying to watch demons. Fucking sponsors. I was trying to watch demons and I was like, okay, I want to watch demons. Where do I find it? Oh, it's on AMC. It might be on Shutter, it might be on these other things, but I didn't I don't I'm not describing to that at the moment because I'm always kind of shifting back and forth.
And I was like, God, I could watch it on Tubi, but I'm gonna have a half hour's worth of commercials added. I was like, let me just check Canopy,'cause Canopy with a K has so many trashy horror films in it. Yeah. And it's fucking free'cause it's the library's app. Not everyone can get it. I try to recommend it to my friend David who lives in Louisville. And he can't get it. Interesting.
That's a lib problem though. That's it. He won't get a library card, so he can't have it. Well it's his library, he does have a library card. Most major places do. So if you Don't fuck around. If you have not looked into Canopy and you look at there and you're like, Oh, okay, all these new BBC shows and all these other great documentaries and educational television, don't worry.
Keep looking. There's all the fucking disgusting horror movies you'd ever want in there. The trashiest. Awesome. How many grody movies are on there? And they had demons and I watched it commercial free looking like a Just crystal clear. Yeah. I watched it on Tubi and there is a half hour's worth of commercials. So it like takes ha two hours.
Canopy's free if you have a library card and it's y it's uh yeah, I'd recommend just do it canopy with a K. Don't no and they're not paying me. Well who would who would that be? The library? They should. Canopy spit us up. I'll do this. I'll do this every time you Josh. Yeah. Yeah. I pay myself. This is just a public service announcement. Holy shit. Right on.
Well we thank our sponsors, Next Record Store and Wordhoard. And future canopy. And good and plenty coming up soon. Good and plenty. Good and plenty. Made with real bugs. Get us that sponsorship. Get us a a pallet of these things. Could you please just make a vegan good and plenty? They're making fucking shoes. I'm good. For me. For Brian's. So I can force them on Brian. I always just think it's funny'cause I I think in like movies like
Low budget movies, people use those as pills. The white ones. Like you can put'em in a little pill canister. It looks like a fucking pill. It does, yeah. Oh tastes like it's that's all they're good for. Well, they're making me feel some nostalgia. That's all I mean, that's the good for that. My old ass is like I went through I I got bad candy, like the old days. Like the old days. And I can only afford bad candy. Like Airma used to have. Yeah. Great. And a big box, too.
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